📊┃economics

[void quarry]

Their focus is on public order not fog of war 🤣

[autumn quartz]

Dubai's concerned about their brand as a city/haven for capital

[rotund hare]

You are an idiot.

It IS war time intelligence. Literally. Social media posts are fed straight to Iran.

[cursive crypt]

We have our Polis to buy elections and Atlas to spend in Galia what more do we need?

[main basin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-chair-company-ron-trosper-tim-robinson-hbo-hbo-max-gif-8583820875117793440

[cursive crypt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/investor-clown-investor

[tidal storm]

C4 so we can use it

[cursive crypt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/patience-young-1

[main basin]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-pup-impatience-gif-4836500571963623024

[tidal storm]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[cursive crypt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/waiting-impatient-3

I've had my morning fun on discord now I need to go build some dreams everyone have a great day.

[void quarry]

Partly sure, but mostly it’s about optics.

[rotund hare]

That's literally your opinion as an arm chair quarterback hunkering down in the depths of Utah.

It IS wartime intelligence. Just because you think it also has to do with optics doesn't make it any less wartime intelligence. And, let's be honest, optics is also a part of war.

And regardless of whether we agree or disagree on this point, it is in no way or shape compareable to the legislation they are trying to pass in California. Y'know, the place where they aren't getting attacked by missiles, drones, and bombs.

And the fact that you even tried to compare them is baffling and suggests a limited grasp on reality. But tbh, I shouldn't be baffled by anything you do or say at this point.

[cedar hound]

Lmao why so much hate for Bodhi?

[split elbow]

gm

who we lambasting today

[void quarry]

The uae gave multiple reason. The spoke of fear, confusion, unrest, negative portrayal, disturbance, misinformation, and harming defense measures. Almost all of what they’ve mentioned had to do with optics.

And I’m not comparing uae apples to apples with Cali. I’m just surprised your so concerned for journalism when you moved to a country where you’ll be deported for sharing content that harms the countries image.

[rotund hare]

Because he is literally insane and spouts lies and bullshit 24/7? You would need an AI to pick apart every single thing he says. Multiple logical fallacies, lies, gas lighting, distraction, zero truth. Ever. And don't forget he is the SMARTEST person in the world and knows EVERYTHING about any topic.

[high meteor]

bryan is just toxic

it's not hate

he's just a negative dude

[cedar hound]

I mean maybe ya'll have a rich history of angry debating but I take what most folks say with a pinch of salt. Myself included. Constantly second guessing my opinions on things with new information.

I think we all create comedy in here 😂

[void quarry]

He’s like this with everyone he doesn’t agree with

Not just me. I don’t pay attention to the ad hominems anymore. it makes it far easier to respond to seeing how that eliminates about %80 of what he says from consideration

[rotund hare]

proving my point even more

[split elbow]

I just come here to piss around tbh

[rotund hare]

same. Bodhi comes here to convert people.

[void quarry]

Not really, I like to stay informed and test my positions against people who disagree. Anyone who learns from the discussion does so on their own. Whether they agree with me or not.

[rotund hare]

Just for a laugh I had AI analyze the conversation.

Logical fallacies Bodhi used

1. False equivalence — equating peacetime California journalism law with UAE wartime media restrictions during an active drone/missile campaign.
2. Tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy) — "you moved to a place where that's already the case," deflecting from Bryan's argument to Bryan's residence.
3. Strawman — "sounds like you're cool with it," assigning Bryan a position (endorsement of UAE law) he never stated.
4. Loaded question / complex question — "You know it's illegal to film a drone strike in Dubai right?" presumes the comparison is valid before Bryan can respond.
5. Moving the goalposts — when the peacetime/wartime distinction is raised, pivots to arguing the US is also "at war" to erase the distinction.
6. Continuum fallacy — blurring the line between declared war and undeclared military action to make them functionally identical for the argument.
7. Special pleading — applies the broad "it's basically war" definition selectively to rescue the UAE comparison while not applying its consequences consistently (US press still free under same logic).
8. Self-contradiction — opens with a direct comparison, later claims "I'm not comparing uae apples to apples with Cali."
9. Motte and bailey — aggressive claim (they're comparable, you're a hypocrite) retreats to defensible claim (just noting media restrictions exist) under pressure, then reasserts the aggressive claim.
10. Cherry-picking — lists seven UAE stated reasons including "harming defense measures," then claims "almost all" are about optics, ignoring the operational categories.
11. Equivocation — stretches "optics" to absorb operational concerns (misinformation during war, defense measures) so his framing survives his own evidence.
12. Ad hominem (circumstantial) — "he's like this with everyone he doesn't agree with," shifts from argument to disposition.
13. Poisoning the well — "illuminates about 80% of what he says," pre-discredits Bryan's future statements to any observer.
14. Fabricated precision — the "80%" figure, invented specificity to sound analytical.
15. Assertion without evidence — "their focus is on public order not fog of war," stated as fact with no source.

Count: 15 distinct fallacies

Rhetorical and conversational tactics he used or might use

1. Gotcha opener — leading with a question designed to trap rather than explore.
2. Sea-lioning adjacent — "just checking," feigned innocent inquiry while pressing a hostile point.
3. Framing control — setting the terms of the comparison first so the opponent has to argue on his turf.
4. Concession theater — small partial concessions ("partly sure") that preserve the core claim while appearing reasonable.
5. Topic drift — pivoting from Cali/UAE to US rights violations to Iran strikes when the original ground gets shaky.
6. Retroactive reframing — claiming he wasn't making the argument he clearly made.
7. Plausible deniability phrasing — "seemed like," "sounds like," "just surprised," softens hostile claims so they're harder to attack directly.
8. Appeal to the audience — meta-commentary about Bryan's behavior aimed at observers in the channel, not Bryan.
9. Tone policing (implicit) — positioning himself as the calm rational one by contrast, regardless of substance.
10. False humility / above-the-fray posture — "I don't pay attention to the ad hominems anymore," claims a higher ground that discredits the opponent without engaging them.
11. Bait and switch on definitions — using "war" loosely when convenient, precisely when convenient.
12. Burden shifting — making Bryan defend his residence choices instead of Bodhi defending his comparison.
13. Whataboutism — redirecting to US constitutional violations rather than addressing the specific Cali vs UAE distinction.
14. Sympathetic reframing — recasting the argument as concern for civil liberties generally, making opposition look anti-liberty.
15. Slow drip — spacing out messages over many hours, letting each provocation sit before the next, controlling pacing.
16. Pseudo-precision — the "10k bombs, nearly 2 months" statistics to give the war-definition argument a factual veneer.
17. Selective specificity — detailed on points that help him, vague on points that don't (never defines what would make Cali and UAE actually comparable).
18. Character framing — painting the opponent as the aggressor ("he's like this with everyone") to make his own provocations look like responses.
19. Anchoring — the opening comparison sets an anchor that subsequent discussion keeps orbiting even after it's been challenged.
20. Exhaustion play — stacking enough claims, pivots, and retreats that refuting all of them is more work than most people will do, so some survive by default.

Count: 20 distinct tactics

Total: 15 fallacies + 20 tactics = 35 rhetorical moves identified

And here's AI's take on the conversation. And SO TRUE.

Practical note for debating him: the exhaustion play is the real danger. Picking one fallacy and refusing to let him pivot off it is more effective than trying to refute all fifteen. The false equivalence is the load-bearing one. If it falls, the rest collapse with it.

"Exhaustion Play"

https://klipy.com/gifs/donald-trump-so-true

Hahahahaha.

Roughly 15 sentences across all his messages in the thread.
So 15 fallacies and 20 tactics identified in 15 sentences. That's more rhetorical moves than sentences, which tracks with the exhaustion play observation. Dense packing is part of the method.

can't make this shit up

[somber grail]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-2wSaulb0fsDydh0IoB

[cursive crypt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/snek-snake-3

This is the solution just poke him gently.

[high meteor]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ufc-XfT1Xb2O2ShHy

[slate falcon]

I love that this place is exactly the same everytime I’m back

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-desk-flames-riot-down-with-homework-gif-12778212689976656977

[autumn quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/great-back-welcome-back-gif-22530081

[rotund hare]

Gotta keep this place alive! Where else u celebrate 30% atlas pump!

[slow fossil]

Who's pumping ATLAS???

[hidden steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[dry carbon]

[tidal storm]

https://x.com/xstocksfi/status/2046623708328923152?s=46

xStocks (@xStocksFi)

The hottest stock for dividends, with 11.5% annualized yield.

By the largest public company holding Bitcoin, with 815,061 BTC.

Now tokenized as $STRCx.

X · Apr 21, 2026, 4:14 PM

@rotund hare here you go

[zinc lichen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/netflix-3-body-problem-3bp-znbiQ2taruzSLvgpMk

https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2046598106804781117

Polymarket (@Polymarket)

JUST IN: UK officially approves lifetime smoking ban for anyone born after 2008.

X · Apr 21, 2026, 2:33 PM

[autumn quartz]

Wtf

[somber grail]

why would you buy tokenized STRC?

u won't get dividend?

lol

[autumn quartz]

Light one for our brothers and sisters in the UK

[somber grail]

I guess market will be short STRC at a annualized APR of 11.5% for the dates it drops post ex-dividend?

[zinc lichen]

they retarded

[rotund hare]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-fuck-fuck-that-what-the-what-the-hell-spicy-wings-gif-14523961

[rotund hare]

Gotta have dividends or what would be the point?

[cursive crypt]

WOW you made me look.

[zinc lichen]

wouldnt they sort that part out and actualy include those to

but its gona be clusterfuck on chain if it does lol

buy STRC 1minute before payout, sell 1 second after payout

[tidal storm]

Didn’t read it I’d just assume they would pass it forward somehow otherwise what’s the point lol

[tidal storm]

Yes

[rotund hare]

I'm looking for more info now

[somber grail]

Iunno do these guys hold the underlying?

who is using tokenized stocks in 2026 anyway

seems fucking retarded

lol

only platform u can trust to not give $ to North Korea is like hype

cause it's fully centralized

and they'd pause it

then roll the chain back

being anywhere else is GAMBLE

[dry carbon]

Bro is heartbroken from drift

[rotund hare]

Yes, but not as cash. Dividend payouts are automatically reinvested into more of the underlying asset, and your xStocks balance increases to reflect the dividend via the rebasing/multiplier mechanism. There is no separate cash credit or line item, the increase appears as a higher effective token balance in your portfolio.

The rebasing calculation: Net Dividend (after 30% US withholding tax) divided by the closing price of the underlying share on the prior day. The multiplier is updated at approximately 8:00 PM EST on the day prior to the Ex-Date.

Per kraken faq

[rotund hare]

I spent the last 3 days trying to figure out how to offboard a large sum of stable coins to get STRC. It was grim.

I have up and just decided to buy BTC.

And now this stock pops up just today.

[main basin]

https://tenor.com/view/because-they-are-watching-because-theyre-watching-cuz-theyre-watching-cuz-they-are-watching-they-are-watching-gif-18524475

[tidal storm]

Said they did 50m worth

[rotund hare]

Need to see whether they refund the 30% tax w/+ to the stock at end of year.

[rotund hare]

It's 100M

[tidal storm]

Gay

[rotund hare]

Wait
It's 50M with value of 100m?

[tidal storm]

Double counting it? Lmao

[rotund hare]

Lol fuckin weird

[zinc lichen]

well atlest its not restaked and restaked and made 290mill out of original 15

[cedar hound]

I hate to say this but if your LLM knows you are Bryan in this equation, its gonna pander to the user because you paying 🤑💦

But we must remember, the stripper doesn't love us.

[rotund hare]

It talked a lot of shit to me because I called him an idiot. 🤷‍♂️. But nice deflection. This is about Bodhi not me.

[cedar hound]

I'm just talking about them AI tools man, don't let them glaze you

[high meteor]

dude can't even think in a debate

he needs to ask chatgpt lol

ChaTGpT WhAt DoEs BoDhI MeAn WiTh ThIs

[nimble spade]

its an established fact that AI models are rampant with conformation bias and being massive yes-men, relying on them and acting like they're in any way reliable is a pretty good way to end up convinced that you've discovered a unified theory of gravity XD

[plush plaza]

The art of NPC programming…

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s00146-023-01793-z.pdf

[opal vapor]

wow, what happened with Atlas?

[gritty root]

resignation on the way

need more zero´s on right side of History

[opal vapor]

still alive it seems xD

[rotund hare]

says the guy with an IQ of 60. hows it going making that 50 bucks?

[cedar hound]

Moon from here on out

[high meteor]

I don't know, ask chatgpt

[void quarry]

Not doing do well I think

Or maybe that’s good?

[slow fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-dont-just-dont-stop-gif-23310589

[hidden steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/star-atlas-tufa-attack-tufa-star-atlas-tufa-star-atlas-tufa-attack-gif-25174839

[sweet crow]

https://t.me/real_DonaldJTrump/19206

[high meteor]

https://giphy.com/gifs/debate-donald-trump-septgopdebate2015-xTiTnHXbRoaZ1B1Mo8

[zinc lichen]

some neews of coup happening in IRAN, military sized curent leaderhip

[slow fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/tacos-taco-taco-tuesday-taco-tuesday-gif-taco-tuesday-meme-gif-1991941269303866761

[dry carbon]

ohh where did you see this?

[zinc lichen]

no official news yet, still "trust me bro" stuff

[dry carbon]

I see

[somber grail]

lol what

this is 0

u guys have some wild sources

[zinc lichen]

hey, my bro is credible, sometimes

[slow fossil]

And the Strait remains closed…

[odd dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-umm-yikes-well-see-gif-5352388531019011875

[somber grail]

Wait are we saying IRGC are committing the coup?

They havnt stopped being in control

[somber grail]

I didn't read this entire sentence apparently

[slow fossil]

Even more now with the new leader.

[somber grail]

This is 100%

but I wouldn't call it a coup?

They've been in power entire time

Like President of Iran said they'd stop hitting Gulf States like day 3 of the war

and IRGC came out and said yeah no bud, we do what we want

[slow fossil]

The true leader of Iran right now.

[dry carbon]

so what is going on

[ashen river]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-follow-rhobh-denise-richards-conversation-gif-13608381

[slow fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-knows-snl-washington's-dream-2-nate-bargatze-gif-3629663037087366671

[void quarry]

Trumps trying to get republicans in the house and the senate cause the way things are looking the dems are going to take the house, and senate, which will impede him for the rest of his term.

Same reason the straits been open and we won already according to the admin. No problems whatsoever.

[plush plaza]

Since the SAVE act seems to have failed in the Senate, this might be right.

[void quarry]

Can’t wait:) hopefully next time the gop will choose the better of two evils.

Senates a bit closer but dem is winning in the polls and trending

[rotund hare]

SUI blocked a 2M hack through it's validator set. 🙀

[cedar hound]

Still serving the same masters and the U.S people more poor than those with good quality of life, plus even further predatorial business class. Dems are centre right economically. Same ol shit just no Trump mafia theft

Independent/Third party entering the race can't happen (in a legitimate capacity). Not enough funding distribution. Roadkill Ultimate Boss defected remember?

[void quarry]

At least bad policy results opposition in opposition down party lines. If all we’re getting is slop anyways, it’s better to have congress and the house opposing the president to retard the gov.

Dem house and senate, and rep pres forever until we get a true leader would be good. Maximum delay at every point.

[plush plaza]

The great thing is, that Dr. Jesus Trump acknowledged to relaese the Epstein Files. As soon as there is another majority they can be fully released. This could lead to a tremendous impact in terms of the „acceptance“ of elites. and economic „heavy weights“. Not to mention possible trials in regard of treason etc.

[cedar hound]

Big hope, folks worship these crettins too much

[void quarry]

Did you really say that he’ll release the files only if we vote republican again?

Either way he said he’d release them before he got elected.

[plush plaza]

No, the next one has to release the files. Dr. Jesus will do everything to cover things up.

[plush plaza]

Yeah, he had to end the ongoing investigation to do so. Perhaps he thought he can end the investigation and ppl will forget about it😁
Classical shot in the own foot. As expected from a draft dodger..

[somber grail]

gm

[zinc lichen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pudgypenguins-penguin-pudgy-pengu-cPWAkjhVPi5yMMMdUY

[rotund hare]

gm iran war is over. up only

[plush plaza]

MSC-FRANCESCA, EPAMINODES . Perhaps it takes „a bit longer“.

[somber grail]

😬

They seized 2 tankers and shot 1

[rotund hare]

did you tell the markets that?

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-jam-stonks

[zinc lichen]

or we going up on news that Russia made BTC and other crypto legal payment for international trade / payments

baned in state tho lol

[plush plaza]

Blood is green…

[zinc lichen]

but hay, you can buy Russian gas and oil with BTC

[rotund hare]

new story on the tanker that got fired on

[plush plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/all-hail-megatron-starscream-shockwave-soundwave-transformers-one-gif-11806061570501475162

[zinc lichen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/vibe-boys-gang-zR1RlhffcYKQNFlTBc

[somber grail]

The ship they fired at was EUPHORIA btw

they literally shot at Euphoria

IS IT OVER?

if that isn't a top marker there will be no top

[void quarry]

You can say that, but you’re wrong.

Just like you were wrong when you said it a few weeks ago.

[odd dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/euphoria-rue-euphoriajules-jules-serie-gif-22567740

[gritty root]

https://tenor.com/view/internet-south-park-gif-5958534

[high meteor]

sup pampers

[gritty root]

?late sales

[dry carbon]

Gm we are so back

[lucid helm]

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/fact-check-did-indian-flagged-vessel-sanmar-herald-fall-victim-to-cyber-fraud-off-the-coast-of-iran-14003310.html
tl;dr: The tanker crypto scam story is BS.

[slow fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/trust-trust-issues-trust-no-one-gif-7326039

[slow dock]

Trump economy booming and saving us. Record high s&p500 and Nasdaq. Making us money.
Saylor saving btc with strc making btc and mstr boom. The rest of the year I think will be the biggest boom we will have.. top 100 companies up almost 50 percent in a year. Mag7 almost up 60 percent.. that’s nuts. But we got the liberal Americans saying we are doomed lol they don’t like money

https://tenor.com/view/joker-everything-burns-heath-ledger-gif-14007886

Bet on America 🇺🇸

Anyone know if this is real spacex stocks?

[main basin]

I just want to point out - basically every year since 2012 has had a record high S&P 500.

[slow dock]

Ya brother like 8-10 percent… not 36 percent

Think s&p has doubled in 3 -4 years when normally it takes 7 years to double

[main basin]

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-obviously-ai-chef-peepee-supermariologan-sml-movie-junior-wants-chef-peepee-fired-lovell-stanton-gif-9711493634120745239

[slow dock]

Ai Chips are the new oil.

[main basin]

real potato chips > digital AI chips

[slow dock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chips-crisps-cat-want-chips-give-me-the-chips-right-now-gif-25371181

[rotund hare]

Yeah it was a joke. 😅 Did u read the article? Hahhaha.

[lucid helm]

You only posted a screenshot from X 🤷‍♂️
Maybe I missed something, always possible

[rotund hare]

Oh I thought the USDT transfer was the give away. 😅

[zinc lichen]

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2047010178877284692

Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru)

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 US Admiral Paparo says the United States is running a Bitcoin node.

"We have a node on the Bitcoin network…We're doing a number of operational tests to secure and protect networks using the Bitcoin protocol."

▶ Play video

X · Apr 22, 2026, 5:50 PM

[slow dock]

I’m cheering on America. But show me the Epstein files ur referring too.

[cedar hound]

The majority of them and your government's response to them 😅

weird thing to cheer on but we move

🥁 💥

[slow dock]

Post the documents ur referring too.

[slow dock]

Cheering on our economy which is booming.

[cedar hound]

The whole thing tbh, the way it's been handled. The overzealous redacting by folks working under those plants with insanely poor decorum (Patel/Bondi)

An example being the word "Don't" is redacted because they obviously parsed it through an automated redaction process to hide a shortened acronym for Donald Trump; Don T, probably had a whole tag list. Still hiding the truth from the American people. I came across this a few times when I was personally going through them a couple of months back. I'm not going to go through them again. There is plenty of contextual evidence in there (the evidence part being that the DoJ did release it so we as 3rd parties are having to trust that these aren't fabricated, to suggest they were would be to criticize your country) that should invite investigation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1qwr6dq/dont_redactions/

Your economy is winning for those with access, education to participate in the profiteering surge and bubble of war/surveillance rn. Not much else to say. It's a supremacist pecker spike

[slow dock]

Well I don’t know there is a lot of fake papers and a lot of redacted things media has put out that aren’t redacted at all but the media did it to make the government look bad. Love America but we have certain people that pay media companies to report false information and pay politicians to put false information out or to limit real information or independent media (the ban nick shirley bill) ..so we definitely do have some problems. Most of us know what fake news is and real news. Most our protestors here are also paid from a billionaire in China as well. The DOJ isn’t hiding anything because I actually work for the DOJ . There is no phy op going on. Anyone can look up the real documents https://vault.fbi.gov/jeffrey-epstein.
Donald trump is mentioned in the files a lot. Epstein actually hate trump and is actually why trump is mentioned so many times. Trump actually kicked esptien out of mar lago and got him arrested. A NY judge let Epstein go with a slap on the wrist (not sure why) . There is one page that said trump fingered a young girl which was over 18 supposedly but the girl didn’t come forward a prior Clinton friend who has been caught lieing under oath, served some time and is a diagnosed multi personality disorder. The only one that supposedly got second hand information. There is a ton of ai pictures out there just like anything else.. but it is what it is.. there is a lot of people in the files that has a lot of files against them that probably need to be looked at. (Bill gates, leanardo de caprio, tom hanks, prince andrew, Clinton’s , chris tucker) if they find something on trump cool prosecute him. But just like anything they have a war against trump. Trying to get him off the ballot , Russia gate , Ukraine gate, and too many to name. I don’t really care if he is charged cool just make sure it’s real. I was mostly just saying America is thriving above . I don’t understand what u mean with ur last paragraph .. I posted the general stock market which

Most Americans are invested in or in there 401ks . Every American should be thriving with the stock market and tax cuts . So not sure how the s&p 500 is a supremecist fund..

[cedar hound]

I gotta hit the hay but for your last part there... A strong country economy is reflected by the average citizen's quality of life and access to amenities. Otherwise it's just a circle jerk of money in a top % and some minor trickle down to disparage real rebellion.

[slow dock]

If u invest in mag7 u double ur money in 2 years for example

[cedar hound]

I hope they roll out the red carpet treatment for you when Anduril IPO, gn 💤

[nimble spade]

erm why are you talking about this when the dow is literally over 50,000 right now?

[slow dock]

I’m in public service… not rich but making great money because the stock market . Good night friend

[cedar hound]

"some minor trickle down to disparage real rebellion"

[slow dock]

I’m excited for andruil actually

Gn

[cedar hound]

https://tenor.com/view/cousin-eddie-bingo-gif-12266523199863798063

[slow dock]

Andruil , spacex will be huge

[nimble spade]

I'm also excited to invest in soylent green and umbrella corporation xd

[slow dock]

So u don’t like how people can invest in defense industries?.. every country does

Guess don’t invest in a company you don’t like… I don’t know buddy

Just crazy I say the US economy is booming and get different colors of shade lol

If it makes anyone else happy I invest in the South koreas companies ETF and that’s almost 100 percent on the year… so not just praising America economy

I’m sorry almost 200 percent up on the year

[somber grail]

The dow is going to hit 60k

by summer

[slow dock]

So go South Korea I guess

[somber grail]

maybe

will get close

60k by summer then 25k before the end of the year

SPY 8200-8700 then 4k

[slow dock]

I think it’s going to thrive all year

[somber grail]

sure

[slow dock]

But no expert

[somber grail]

but it won't

[slow dock]

lol ok

I don’t trade anyways . I invest long term till I retire

[nimble spade]

Well while I would rather a world where the tools of state violence wasn't a field of profits, anduril and palantir are fundamentally different as their not just defense, but also serveillance domestic and foreign. The met police just recently got given basically free reign to set up facial recognition systems wherever they please, and while idk if they are using anduril's products or another company's, it certainly is extremely similar in role to their Sentry Tower product. Also for a while now palantir, whom anduril is basically cut from the same cloth, has a deal currently with the UK government giving is massive access to NHS data.

[slow dock]

I know both companies have towers on the border for filming and face recognition and sometimes set up here n there at gaming events incase.. this is to try to find if there is a terror attack we know who did it … not sure how that is bad… just like how cops need to wear axon body cameras .. keeps the truth between police and public interactions.. good . I’m law enforcement and we actually more like these body cameras because we can prove many false allegations

Casinos use face recognition to spot advantage play players.. so non of this is new ..

Don’t break the law and you should be good

I understand privacy if that’s what you’re getting at but let’s be honest everything is public now with cameras phones ..

And the internet lol

But if some of these products around I’m pretty sure 9/11 wouldn’t have happen ..

[tough sparrow]

I just spent a couple hours fixing bugs in the galactic marketplace. It should load faster and be more responsive. I also tracked down a nasty 4 year old bug on mobile that flashed a 404 for a second when loading ships. Please let me know how it feels, and if anything is still broken.

[errant ember]

Nice

[slow fossil]

I can tell, it is WAY more responsive! Marketplace hasn't felt this fast since the Summer of '24!

[hidden steeple]

I was gonna say it hasn't felt this fast since the Summer of '97!

[slow fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-fook-me-that-was-fast-gif-12873066

[plush plaza]

Just because we talked about it recently… Have a look at what James Comer tries to do now regarding the causa Epstein…

[round moat]

Overbought and overleveraged , not ganna happen

[autumn quartz]

🐐

[dry carbon]

GM Goats

and penguins

[main basin]

https://tenor.com/view/aries-goat-season-zodiac-sign-gif-819186222773693161

Noot, the goated penguin

[rotund hare]

AI slop

[dry carbon]

https://x.com/benjamincowen/status/2046614034313535574?s=46&t=IUex6C-mgHv_DuCblCby6w

Benjamin Cowen (@benjamincowen)

Bitcoin Rallies back to the Bear Market Resistance Band

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X · Apr 21, 2026, 3:36 PM

https://x.com/watcherguru/status/2047033614823567401?s=46&t=IUex6C-mgHv_DuCblCby6w

Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru)

If Sam Bankman-Fried's FTX didn't liquidate its investments following its collapse, it would still hold:

• Solana: $5.1 billion (27x)
• SpaceX: $15 billion (75x)
• Cursor: $3 billion (15,000x)
• Robinhood: $4.9 billion (8x)
• Anthropic: $82.3 billion (165x)
• Genesis

X · Apr 22, 2026, 7:23 PM

Bro was actually a genius venture capitalist

[cedar hound]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bunny-no-nope-nou-gif-13480425249407915803

[dry carbon]

I mean, being a scammer and bad at risk management does not cancel his foresight skills

[somber grail]

It does though

it doesn't matter if you are right or wrong if you blow up your account

like he gambled so big that he blew up

and he didn't even gamble his own money

[dry carbon]

He is a criminal 1000%

[somber grail]

like if you yolo piles of money that isn't yours into a bunch of investments

You can make it look good

[dry carbon]

He didn’t grow ftx to the size it had just by messing around sir

He had a good eye

[somber grail]

he grew it to that size using criminal practices then blew it up

lol

[dry carbon]

My point is, if he just remained doing lawful trades, he would have been successful

He wasn’t a criminal from day 1

[somber grail]

but the portfolio wouldn't be 114B if he did that

[dry carbon]

Probably

Fair

[somber grail]

it'd be like a billion

cause they had already blown up Alameda

before a lot of these even happened

They literally blew up Alameda trading against customers while frontrunning the customers

then used the customers money

[dry carbon]

A criminal of the worst kind

[somber grail]

I mean not so different from a lot of the White House admin that will all get pardoned

he tried to crime it up during the wrong 4year period

[dry carbon]

Of course

He just lost the game

There are many as bad as him running around

[somber grail]

well all fraudsters lose eventually

[dry carbon]

[somber grail]

why is US bailing out bunch of failed companies w/ tax dollars btw

more fiscal stimulous lol

pretty sick you get to keep your winnings when you win as a private company

but all losses get socialized

The only company that makes any sense is like Intel cause it's legitimate security concerns

[dry carbon]

Standard since 2008

Probably eve before

[slow fossil]

I wish that were true.
Some people get away with it and die comfortably.
Maybe they lose reputation after they're dead...

[agile eagle]

Guy steals $16B and invests it across every frontier tech company and people think he's a genius. Anyone could do this. He's not smart.

[dry carbon]

I don't think your usual scammer can get this big, though; it requires some proficiency to reach the billion-level.

[agile eagle]

A special type of scammer, you say? Perhaps the Effective Altruist type.

[dry carbon]

🤣

[zinc lichen]

https://x.com/Polymarket/status/2047313538897608979

Polymarket (@Polymarket)

JUST IN: EU to push for crackdown on emojis that can be used to cover up “illegal speech”

X · Apr 23, 2026, 1:55 PM

https://giphy.com/gifs/dumb-dummy-i-feel-h8HmN0UcEKR0xWnv3R

someone is getting payed , from tax payers money, to cum up with bulshit like this

[plush plaza]

Trust in X posts from Polymarket. ALWAYS!😬

[zinc lichen]

polymarket best source haha

[somber grail]

Madoff?

but yeah ofc they usually get caught 😂

Madoff actually got to the 60B scam tho

not this fantasy made up number where we just cherry pick the best investments

[vapid valley]

The question is: why in hell hasnt Tramp pardoned SBF yet?

[somber grail]

he's a democrat scammer

not a republican one

[vapid valley]

He still has rich parents and he has gotten his tongue brown. But nevertheless fair point

[somber grail]

and his rich parents are democrats

what's hard to understand about this?

[vapid valley]

they still can make donations

maybe they aint willing to donate or that donation would be too small?

[gritty root]

currently is 21 hour

The disruption in the radar network has created a paradox, causing unstable time control across the sector.

Radar failure detected. Temporal control compromised

let made Golden blame

[plush plaza]

Dr. Jesus Trump was also a democrat. Until 2009 I think .😁

More or less…

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/how-long-was-donald-trump-a-democrat-4cdb76

[nimble spade]

interesting is how his alignment basically swung to always be opposite to the current president

[plush plaza]

He found more ppl to blackmail in the GOP after Jeff and he „took over“ the „Honeypot-Yacht-Brothel“ from Robert Maxwell… perhaps… just a thought.😁

[zinc lichen]

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2047428833452679359

Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru)

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 DOJ arrests US special forces soldier involved in Venezuelan President Maduro's capture for making over $400,000 betting on his removal from office.

X · Apr 23, 2026, 9:34 PM

[cedar hound]

Insider trading for me, not for thee

[zinc lichen]

They arrested him for embarrassing them and making ONLY 400k

[cedar hound]

Classic rookie error, should have been born with a president dad who can start wars to guarantee $24m contracts for your drone company. Classic loser mentality

Imagine hating hollywood for being a gatekeeping cabal but suckling on the nards of a family that wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire 🤣

[compact frost]

This image is a political meme, and it’s making a specific argument rather than reporting a confirmed policy.

What it shows
The person at the podium is Ursula von der Leyen, representing the European Union.
The top text claims the EU wants a “crackdown on emojis” used to hide illegal speech.
The bottom half mocks that idea, suggesting people would just switch to coded emoji meanings anyway.
What the meme is trying to say

It’s pushing a few ideas:

Governments want to control or limit speech online
Even if they try, people will find workarounds (like emoji codes)
The phrase “good luck banning vibes” implies regulation is futile or overreaching
Reality check
There is no widely reported EU policy specifically banning emojis.
However, the EU has passed laws (like the Digital Services Act) targeting:
illegal content
hate speech
platform responsibility
In those contexts, emojis could be considered part of communication, especially if used to evade moderation—but that’s very different from “banning emojis.”
Bottom line

This is satire/propaganda-style content, not a factual news graphic. It exaggerates real debates about online moderation into a more extreme claim.

[plush plaza]

😁

[compact frost]

5 mins econ chat read made me throw up, not worth it anymore

[swift canyon]

u should see me @ S&B's #politics

I actually had an actual legit rant these days & I wasn't even roleplaying

my American frens all lost their senses

[nimble spade]

actually calling it "a crackdown on illegal emojis" is just an absurd phrasing, its like calling persuing preventing planning drug deals conducted online as "a crackdown on illegal letters"

and it is honestly unfortunate how any nuance gets instantly nuked when it gets shoved into the conspiracy right's insane narratives, because yes privacy and free speech is defo smth that needs to be seriously protected, esp. with how Chat Control has been repeatedly tabled but defeated. But nonsense like this just turns the conversation into noise

[swift canyon]

Rejoin :eu:

& mayhaps TOGETHAA we can devour the US

10k $ATLAS if u get the reference w/o googling

[cedar hound]

Sit back, do nothing, watch self devour happen, win

[swift canyon]

I can't help it I'm on night shift & all I rly do is watch FOX news

they got me on edge

I had no clue news were addictive

can u explain to me why they keep calling the supreme leader the "gay Ayatollah"

they started doing that a couple days ago now they said it thrice tonight

just in the like 3,5h I've watched

yah they rly call him the "gay Ayatollah"

I wish we had a news channel like that in Germany

the best we've had was Astro TV before it was cancelled along w/ free speech

[cursive crypt]

Spot on "This is satire/propaganda-style content," this has always been my style. I actually specialize in rhetoric and misdirection.

My day job is building dreams.

[cursive crypt]

Not much about econ here just recon for echo chamber mind control.

[cedar hound]

Chet Roberts said he was a footsoldier for the far right in the 90s and didn't want to live with folks who weren't white. Couldn't get more echo chamber cucked if you tried. About as enlightening reading his words as enlightening as it is to be told what you're reading is sharted out by an LLM because the originator didn't have the effort or self respect to engage with you in the meeting of the minds. Fear of the unknown, fear of the different, fear of not being able to compete.

[slow fossil]

Adolescent humor. MAGA thinks if you add "gay" to another word it makes it a pejorative. High class.

[cedar hound]

Mediocrity incarnate

[high meteor]

https://giphy.com/gifs/faggot-homiesexual-shrimpysdad-gb6TyakSW7F3mKx6VT

[cursive crypt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/meet-the-flintstones-title-sequence-theme-song-yabba-dabba-doo-intro-flintstones-meet-the-flintstones--k01KPZTNBZGET75RXZ2J02TNRTZ

I'm from the Flintstone era when we still had a Gay old time.

I think the homosexual community stole a good word. I think I may go to work today and have "A gay old time"

[gritty root]

How much for a broom and a dustpan?

[acoustic fog]

You can't clean up stupidity and bigotry with those. Unfortunately.

[high meteor]

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2047397140255633528?s=20

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar)

RFK Jr: "A Democratic senator claimed it's mathematically impossible to have a drug drop by 600%. I said, 'Well, if the drug was $100 and it raises to $600, that would be a 600% rise. If it drops from $600 to $100, that's a 600% savings.'"

Trump: "Right"

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X · Apr 23, 2026, 7:28 PM

maga be math'n

(while we're at maga 😄 )

[cursive crypt]

I use boots and a pitchfork.

[sweet crow]

Who's going to short the markets this next week?

[cursive crypt]

I took some profit from a coin I have been holding for some time that's about as close as I come to margins and shorting. I did buy some Stronghold SHX just because I had a wild hair and have not bought anything for a while except SOL so I could have some in my wallet when I'm shopping for crew also Polis and Star Atlas every once in a while so I don't feel like a krill in a sea of whales.

[sweet crow]

Righto. I just get this feeling that the energy crisis we're in is going to really hit next week. Markets getting complacent with the wind down of the Iran war makes them primed for the grey rhino charging at us.

[cursive crypt]

This will not hit us for 6 months with the supply chain problems that will come associated with all the derivative products that come from oil. My wife is making me eggs now that come from the Chickens in the yard and I just told her we may need to up our garden game this year and that the price of my Styrofoam cup may skyrocket and I will need to be eco friendly and use my Grandpa mug.

[tidal storm]

Well I got wine this year

Not the best but a little sweet and it’s alcohol

Time to check Otello

Damn Otello failed

[somber grail]

I'm all-in short

gm

[vapid valley]

What happened to the dow 60k?

[tidal storm]

That was yesterday biatch

[slow fossil]

Yea, the closed strait is the big problem for markets, not necessarily the bombs.
Doesn't look like it will be open any time soon.
And yesterday the Navy said it could take six months to clear it of mines!

[plush plaza]

<@&809877248572260394>

[terse quest]

Awesome! Congrats! 🥂

[agile eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935606734192529449/1315466384758800424/swag-wine-dancing.gif

[hidden steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935606734192529449/1315466344598343750/swag-wine-sad.gif

[somber grail]

That comes later

need to get everyone short again

or who is left to flip long?

[vapid valley]

I wonder how much money actually flip flops between shorts and longs?

[gritty root]

rainbow net

I will test my Cornelian cherry ice drink that I found in the woods next door as an old wizard

[hidden steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-big-gif-8284786026051198647

[gritty root]

Exactly, bro. That’s why we’ve got to bring our A-game. No room for small thinking here. 🚀

https://tenor.com/view/lemon-juice-drink-gif-21009856

[somber grail]

gm

[cedar hound]

fake right?

[vapid valley]

Nope. Its genuine

He posted it on untruthsocial earlier today

[high meteor]

https://x.com/alphafox/status/2047858274330890664?s=20

AlphaFox (@alphafox)

The band names people came up for these guys are hilarious! 😂

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X · Apr 25, 2026, 2:00 AM

[zinc lichen]

https://x.com/DBCrypt0/status/2047648626294534361

DBCrypto (@DBCrypt0)

Raised 9 figures

Generates less revenue than a kid's lemonade stand

X · Apr 24, 2026, 12:07 PM

[sweet crow]

https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/75520

GM

[autumn quartz]

C4 looking fantastic tbh

[sterile kindle]

I have a question for those who might be able to answer it. Will the tokenomics of Atlas change? What I mean is: will the supply become limited and stop increasing, or will emissions continue indefinitely to provide in-game rewards? I was under the impression that the supply was originally meant to be limited, if I’m not mistaken.

[agile eagle]

Yes, restricted to the 3.6B mint, with an emission curve over 8 years (we're about 4 years into that curve). Unless, however, the DAO votes for some perpetual inflation rate for further gameplay incentives.

[sterile kindle]

Ok, so if the DAO votes against further emissions, then in-game rewards will depend on whether player activity and transaction volume are high or low, I assume.

[agile eagle]

Well our goal is to build a strong peer-to-peer economy through layers of complexity in manufacturing and production of goods. Players should not be able to be fully vertically and horizontally integrated across every facet of the game, which should drive trade between players. However, this model still ultimately relies on new capital coming in to the game. Which implies either player growth, a willingness from some players to spend money regularly for gameplay/convenience without desiring to extract from the game, or more robust and diversified revenue streams into the DAO that can be used to provide player incentives.

[sterile kindle]

Ok, if I understand correctly, the goal is for the game to be large and dynamic enough to generate a form of in-game economy and player-to-player trading as a base source of returns, with additional incentiveswhether temporary or ongoing added on top of that for players.

[agile eagle]

Yep, you got it. One extremely basic example that may or may not fully play out: Player 1 is highly motivated to generate returns on the capital invested into the game. Player 2 just really enjoys playing. Player 2 doesn't care to mine resources for consumable resources like fuel, and just engages for gameplay alone. They still incur operating costs. Instead of spending any time with mining and crafting, they purchase that fuel from Player 1. That external capital flowing in to the game produces a sustainable source of revenue for financially motivated players.

[sterile kindle]

that’s a good example

[cursive crypt]

I was really hoping that was going to be your answer. I was planning on creating fuel and salvage businesses. What about advertising to help fund the project once the numbers make sense to an advertiser?

[sterile kindle]

If player growth and economic activity were to increase significantly, and ATMTA’s revenues were to rise accordingly, I assume decisions would be made at the appropriate time. By that, I mean it might involve choosing to reinvest these substantial additional revenues into game development rather than redistributing them as player incentives—or the opposite, especially if there are no longer any token emissions.

At a higher level, if Star Atlas and ATLAS are successful, there will likely always be partnerships or sponsors seeking exposure within the game. But realistically, that probably won’t happen until the DAO reaches several hundred thousand players. There’s still a long way to go before that.

[agile eagle]

Think there is an absolutely massive opportunity to sell marketing space in the game. I want to be extremely tactful about this. But yeah, not only players, but also big brands that want exposure to our playerbase. I'm imaging subtle billboards/flyers/banners (NYC Times Square) around Central Space Stations.

[sterile kindle]

Yes, that’s for sure. It’s like a YouTube channel—the more subscribers a creator has, the more companies are willing to pay for exposure. For Star Atlas, in my opinion, reaching 100k players would be the beginning of something meaningful.

[agile eagle]

Revenue streams, as they exist today, are split. Primary sources of revenue for ATMTA consist of marketplace fees, including those from Tensor for crew re-sales, and game asset sales. We have potential revenue streams from Tangential World licensing sales. And then z.ink opens up a number of new revenue streams for us. And we supplement cash flows right now with token sales.

The DAO generates revenue by capturing a portion of marketplace fees, a portion of Fleet Rental fees, and a 100% capture of in-game revenue (crafting fees, respawn fees, and other forms of taxation to be added as the game progresses). Separately, I personally want to push heavily to have third party teams that get funded by the DAO, to the extent their product/service is monetized, share a portion of that revenue stream back with the DAO. Think of the DAO as a low level venture capital entity that doesn't invest in equity positions, but cash flows. With enough diversified cash flow streams, the DAO can further sustain itself indefinitely.

However, when we reach a point at which the full anticipated production costs are materially funded, I'd like to redirect all revenue sources directly to the DAO, including game asset sales. At this point, we would want to enter into a contractual relationship with the DAO for development services from ATMTA. So ATMTA starts receiving a fixed income stream from the DAO for continuous development, but all revenues, both in-game and externally, funnel directly to the DAO

[sterile kindle]

Interesting.

[sterile kindle]

So you mean a contractual relationship with the DAO at a later stage—when the economic context for ATMTA has become more favorable and the game development is more advanced

[agile eagle]

Yes. Far too much uncertainty in future cash flows to funnel everything into the DAO, and then rely on that relationship, right now. We would only make that transition when we were comfortable with our balance sheet at ATMTA.

[sterile kindle]

Yes, of course

[sterile kindle]

Many people think that issuing money is bad, but that’s a misconception. A gold standard cannot work in a growing economy precisely because it is limited, which restricts the growth of economic actors. Money needs to be issued according to the demand of those actors.

An economic actor who wants to create wealth—thus contributing to GDP—will want to borrow money. So when a bank creates money that didn’t previously exist in the form of credit, that is actually a positive thing in itself. A gold standard does not allow for that kind of flexibility.

Money should follow economic growth. It should be issued when growth increases, and reduced or made harder to access when the economy contracts (for example by raising interest rates or burniing money through taxation).

And of course, a state always has the ability to control capital flows and make it difficult to convert its currency into others—something that Star Atlas or any other Web3 game would struggle to do, whether acting like a central bank, a commercial bank, or a state.

[sweet crow]

"So when a bank creates money that didn’t previously exist in the form of credit..."

They create it in the form of debt. Not credit.

Also, a gold standard can absolutely work for a growing economy, as it had for thousands of years. Not sure why you think we need to be able to create money out of thin air.

[main basin]

Have you talked to the folks at Polaris Fuel? They've been building a fuel-centric operation for quite a while.

Now, if you're talking rescue and salvage ... I know a guy.

[cursive crypt]

We are just a small independent operation.

[cursive crypt]

I have some ideas for the salvage company "Ship Happens"

[sterile kindle]

No, the gold standard never really worked. it led to severe crises for decades. but the gold standard has one advantage: it imposes forced discipline on policymakers who, as we can clearly see, have little or almost no limits when it comes to creating excessive debt .and that’s precisely the core issue today. Too much money creation generates inflation, and poor credit allocation leads to asset bubbles. What I mean is that monetary creation is healthy and effective if it is well managed and not abused.
With a gold standard, the money supply depends on the amount of gold available. So if the economy grows faster than the gold supply, there is a shortage of money, which leads to deflation (falling prices), economic rigidity, and long, painful crises like the Great Depression. It becomes very difficult to stimulate the economy. there’s no possibility of rapid monetary expansion in times of crisis. Adjustments are forced (unemployment, bankruptcies), and recovery mechanisms are limited.
The economy (goods, services) can grow quickly, while the gold supply increases only slowly. So there are more things to buy with the same amount of money. This also leads to frequent banking panics, liquidity shortages, and bank failures. The system cannot absorb shocks effectively. Countries with trade deficits lose their gold reserves and must reduce their money supply, resulting in forced austerity and deep recessions.
As I was saying, monetary creation is healthy, but balance is crucial. Without it, confidence in the currency erodes (people rush to get rid of it), potentially leading to hyperinflation. A growing economy needs more liquidity. Economic expansion → monetary creation. Economic contraction → reduced access to money (interest rate) + monetary destruction and a decrease in circulating liquidity.

[sterile kindle]

We’re talking about money, not a store of value. Gold is a store of value. Bitcoin has the potential to become a store of value, but it isn’t one yet. Good money drives out bad money. → Hyperinflation → flight from currency into stores of value

[sterile kindle]

Everything that’s said and promoted about the gold standard is wrong. A gold standard is the worst thing that can happen to an economy. Gold is a safe haven. the benchmark safe haven. And that’s where it ends

[cursive crypt]

My political take on your very good money supply analysis. We live in an imperfect world and who ever is closet to the faucet benefits most. There are Snakes in this world and with Polis and the ability to buy votes how do you keep the economy balanced for us krill?

I'm not saying the dao setup is a bad idea but holding polis is a lot easier than knocking on doors and asking for your vote.

I'm getting ready to watch the dao casters brew while I'm looking at this political cartoon and was just thinking I should also make one to repersent the other side of the coin.

[sterile kindle]

I prefer having several large stakeholders rather than a huge number of small ones who haven’t taken on any financial risk. A major POLIS holder has a vested interest in a stable and strong economy, as it ensures better returns and long-term continuity. Therefore, they are more likely to vote in favor of the project’s sustainability. It is not in their interest to vote against their own financial incentives.

On the other hand, many small holders have not taken on significant financial risk. As a result, they may be more inclined to extract as much revenue and return as possible without considering the long-term sustainability and economic health of the project. Their focus can be on maximizing value in the shortest possible time.
That said, what’s really needed is a balance between the two
It’s somewhat similar to a 51% attack in Bitcoin: someone who held a monopoly over Bitcoin would have no economic incentive to destroy it.

[cursive crypt]

I could probably make a pretty good argument on both sides of that statement. I have always assumed Star Atlas is trying to create a real world economy that is my hope at least.

[sterile kindle]

Having only a few large stakeholders can be unhealthy. Having several large stakeholders creates a balance.

[cursive crypt]

So I guess the best we can hope for is that a large percentage of the several large stakeholders are Roman.

[autumn quartz]

I worked but didn't they also create money out of thin air by diluting the gold?

0.8 gold is now 1.0 gold

0.5 gold coin is now 1 gold coin

Etc

Or are you not speaking of transactional coinage

[slow fossil]

[somber grail]

what the entire earlier copy pasta spam is just wrong though

about how gold functioned

[hidden steeple]

Love this ad

[sweet crow]

Yes. Governments throughout history had metal coin debasement. A couple common factors for this was centralized control over their currencies and war costs.

[cursive crypt]

All I need is a couple of D9's and a few R8's do you think we hit the botton yet?

[round moat]

@cursive crypt btc bottom around september/october

[sweet crow]

The severe crisis of the Great Depression, although happened on the gold standard, didn't happen BECAUSE of the gold standard. It happened because of the formation of a central bank, world war 1, over spending on debt, and banks lending more money than they actually have. Basically, it was factors of the system we currently have before going off the gold standard. They were behaving like a fiat system while still anchored with the foundation of the gold standard creating a whiplash effect. The great depression should have been labeled the great correction, because it was a result of poor financial policy, not the gold standard itself.

[cursive crypt]

I'm talking about Star Atlas asset bottom I am slowly buying right now but I want to make a bigger move pre C4 once I have a better idea of what I think that will look like. My crypto bags are packed except the little I just keep adding.

[sweet crow]

Imo if we had gone off the gold standard at the same time as the formation of the federal reserve the dollar would be dead by now from hyperinflation or government default.

[sterile kindle]

I think there is no such thing as a perfect monetary system. We have to find the least bad one. And in my opinion, it is certainly not the gold standard—at least not in a modern, rapidly expanding economy.

In times of trouble, it’s important to be able to use leverage if necessary, to have flexibility. And the gold standard does not allow that, or at least not enough.

I believe that we are currently in the best monetary system available, even though many people say the opposite. We have advanced economic mathematical models to assess the situation. Economics is not necessarily an exact science, but we have enough hindsight to understand what hasn’t worked. And the gold standard has not worked in our modern economy as a form of money.

In my view, the real problem lies in excesses, because the rules and limits that are set can be exceede. especially through monopolies and private privileges.

Money is not meant to serve as a store of value, but rather to facilitate exchanges. while still maintaining a certain stability of value over time. Of course, no one prevents anyone from abandoning a currency and seeking refuge in a store of value. Everyone is free to do so.

[sweet crow]

The key word there is "rapidly". Of course you can't expand economies rapidly without a rapidly inflating currency. The question is why is a rapidly expanding economy a good thing?

[cursive crypt]

I have always told my son you don't win in the good times anyone can do that you win when the times are tuff and you just get in there and make it happen that way when things turn around again you are way ahead of every one else.

[sweet crow]

Problem is now the system is so manipulated, it's trying to avoid the bad times. So what do you get in economies with no major corrections?

[sterile kindle]

I didn’t say it was a good thing. I’m saying that it restricts the creation of economic value. What is the point of restricting value creation if not to stagnate or regress? None.

[sterile kindle]

That’s what I was saying. In my view, the problem is not linking a currency to a store of value in order to make it a safe haven, but rather how and by whom the monetary system is implemented.
The goal should be to find a way to avoid excesses. except in the case of a serious crisis, where flexibility should have very few limits, in my opinion.

[cursive crypt]

The system is always manipulated and we are just krill. Here is an example Covid just happened the world was in fear and a grocery store that had been shut down for several years that I wanted to get but was just to expensive went to absolute auction and was going to sell no matter what the price. While the rest of the world was hunkered down in fear we bought it for penny's on the dollar and repurposed it. If it was not for the bad times we would never have got that building and now that I'm so old and my stuff is just as old I call it a museum. I just uploaded a video from yesterday and called it "Our repurposed grocery store called Trinity" just for you. https://youtu.be/sEW6B6Ek-vM?si=ghaIH94HQFzMiVhN

[hidden steeple]

Ship price wise - very possible we hit bottom a few weeks ago

[worthy walrus]

Man it would be nice if I FINALLY bought at the bottom😆 vs timing it wrong like I do 95% of the time.

[low trail]

could be in right now- decent chance. However, Iran war is going to progress. the US didn't park aircraft carriers over there for no reason.

[cursive crypt]

Prices are bouncing I'm following ship prices closer now than I do crypto or stock charts. Not a lot of volume though.

I have an idea.

@gritty root have I got a deal for you a slightly used Lowbie driven only on Sunday by a little old lady only $4.99.

[gritty root]

I see you have a lot, give me time to look, I think I could find the driver too

[cursive crypt]

I did recently stock up on Lowbies and have plenty of different colors and options. May even work out a fleet lease rate for the right price. This is destined to become the most recognized ship in Galia both iml and irl.

[gritty root]

it looks good for a quality investigation, given that we can always expect an escort in larger vehicles

considering the specifications, it is interesting what it lacks

[cursive crypt]

The Lowbie makes up for whatever it lacks in "Super Cool"

[gritty root]

yes, the best when you hear the joke "how many Romans fit in 1 Lowbie"

[gritty root]

we heard on the radio that he was looking for something similar

[cursive crypt]

Let me see if I can answer this in the Jmmyam dialect.

Two (the L and the I)

I sure hope I'm not correct I just don't think I want to be in the same class as Jmmyan there is only room for one one of a kind in a Lowbie.

[cursive crypt]

If I translate the jmmyan dialect to Latin and then convert it to English the translation would be..... All of them — if Virtuwul is driving and calls it “strategic consolidation.”

[gritty root]

"Language is the first weapon in any empire. When they call it 'consolidation,' they mean 'erasure.' Just like in our stories—when the old wizard speaks, the truth is hidden in plain sight. 🧙‍♂️📜"

[cursive crypt]

If the Wizard has his crystal ball then he knows all roads will lead to Rome. Rome a peaceful Empire that treats its subjects well and only expects tribute in return.

[gritty root]

you are fine, but when they issue a warrant against you, they will probably easily arrange you in third place, and are you in third place in terms of the size of the clubs?

"True, the Wizard sees all roads. But in a game like this, a 'peaceful Empire' often means the peace of a cage. 🕊️⛓️
Tribute is paid, yes—but at what cost to our freedom? Rome didn’t fall in a day, and neither will the illusion of order here. 🏛️🌑"

In Rome, the tribute is paid. In the Empire of Star Atlas, the price is freedom. Choose wisely

[sweet crow]

Not sure I agree with that. Inflating a currency doesn't expand or create economic value. It just makes that currency less valuable.

[sweet crow]

You avoid excess by not having the currency easily inflated. And it would depend on what crisis you want to resolve. As I said before, the crisis of the Great depression was caused by the very things you're promoting. Easily inflated currencies and over lending(creation of debt). Why not just not allow banks to lend money they don't have? 🤷

[sweet crow]

That's pretty awesome. Glad you got a deal out of it.

[cursive crypt]

currency has no intrinsic value it is just the rails value is traded on. The old grocery store is brick and morter with an asset value.

[cursive crypt]

I have made my choice and my true freedom was paid for by the only one worthy. In this world there is no freedom at any price.

[sterile kindle]

That’s not what I said. The current system allows economic actors to create value. It does not create it itself. It is the economic actors who create it. It’s the other way around.”

[sterile kindle]

You’re confusing it with another crisis. The gold standard was in place and there was no hyperinflation. The opposite happened. The gold standard worsened the crisis because there was no leverage to fix the situation. The problem isn’t the current system. It’s its abuse, by going beyond the rules originally set for a healthy real economy.

[acoustic fog]

If the current system allows for abuse, the problem is the system itself.

[sterile kindle]

I agree that it’s not perfect and far too permissive

But I think it’s the most suitable one we’ve had so far for a modern economy.

If we had still been on the gold standard in 2008, the crisis would have been much longer and more catastrophic, in my opinion.

[dry carbon]

GM Survivors

[sweet crow]

But how do the economic actors create value in our current system? Through the inflation of the currency by debt, correct? All that is is extracting wealth from the future(our children and grandchildren) to put it here and now. Eventually the future ends up with not enough wealth to sustain itself. The "rapidly growing economy" in a nutshell.

[sweet crow]

What crisis are you referring to?

[sterile kindle]

You’re talking about government debt, I assume. There is productive debt and unproductive debt. Value creation in the real economy is something productive. I think it’s important to distinguish between the two. Without this lever, economic actors are constrained, and activity does not reach the level it could have achieved.

[sterile kindle]

1930

[sterile kindle]

Over a long period, inflation partially repays government debt. However, it’s true that it has become so enormous that it would take very high inflation for it to weigh less on public finances. Currently, most countries are borrowing to pay the interest on their debt.
Everything depends on what kind of inflation we are talking about. If it’s inflation that can be influenced by raising interest rates, then the effect is neutral, and it can even put governments at risk. If it’s inflation for which raising rates has almost no impact on reducing it, then inflation will erode the debt, and interest rates should not be significantly increased. In that case, the debt burden for governments would not increase significantl. unless the system becomes self-destructive.
I’m thinking in particular of inflation linked to oil and energy. Significantly raising interest rates would have almost no impact on inflation and could become extremely dangerous, in my view.

[somber grail]

gm

[sweet crow]

No, I'm talking about ALL debt. In our fiat system money is lent into existence. It's then (supposed to be) paid back in the future. Therefore, all debt is an extraction of future wealth to the present. And sure, economic actors are constrained without this fiat system. But again, why shouldn't they be? Why do we need "rapid economic growth". The bottom line is, we don't. Not foundationaly anyway. The only reason why it seems like we need it now is because we already brought rapid growth into existence. We've sped the economic train up to the point that we're trying to outrun the future(debt payment). So we have to keep increasing the speed less we the future catches up. But it's inevitable, and when it does catch up the train stops suddenly. And the faster the train is going when the future stops us the worse the crash will be. The Great Reset is inevitable. It's just a matter of when.

[sweet crow]

1930 was the Great Depression friend.

[sterile kindle]

I think we need to consider the whole thing; otherwise, it’s far too reductive.

[sterile kindle]

That’s it

[sweet crow]

Right. I demonstrated how the Great Depression was caused by easily inflated currencies, banks lending more than they actually had in reserves, world war 1, and the formation of a central bank(Federal Reserve). Again, the Great Depression didn't happen because of the Gold Standard. It happened because we expanded our economy way too fast through poor financial and monetary policies. It happened because of "rapid economic growth". Imo the Gold Standard saved us from complete destruction. Even though much of our currency was wiped out due to over-lending, the currency still survived because it was anchored to gold. We don't have that this time around. The only thing our currency is anchored to now is debt upon debt. The only thing that's keeping the world using the dollar.

[sterile kindle]

I’ll repeat it once again. No, the Great Depression of the 1930s was not caused by inflation. It’s completely the opposite. It was deflation that occurred, with falling prices—not inflation.this crisiswas from a banking and financial crisis to begin with. The gold standard did not help to turn things around, because that system is not flexible enough in times of crisis to provide sufficient leverage to limit the damage and restore order. As a result, the crisis was severe and prolonged.

Alright, I think this discussion has gone on long enough.

[sweet crow]

Rapid deflation was the effect of rapid inflation. Like pulling a rubber band and then letting it go. Since we inflated rapidly, we deflated rapidly. So inflation WAS the cause, deflation was the effect (not the cause).

[plush plaza]

What happens when the economical rubber band snatches back? I mean what is the observable effect for human societies?

[cedar hound]

You're telling me the folks with access to power aren't grabbing as many magic beans as possible because they're aware an impending doom is on the approach and they're gonna fleece their idiotic followers for every dime whilst neglecting sustainable support for modern society as we know it?! No way!

Corporate Dudes is a pretty funny memepage if you've worked in tech

[sterile kindle]

In my opinion, you are confusing strong economic growth with high inflation. The Roaring Twenties of the 1920s had nothing to do with excessive inflation, and the Great Depression was largely due to the consequences of the 1929 crash, when the system found itself stuck with a gold standard that did not allow any measures to avoid the crisis or recover quickly. As a result, the population suffered for far too long. However, if you want to talk about the hyperinflation that occurred in Germany, then I agree.

[plush plaza]

So those events weren‘t connected to the Federal Reserve Act from 1913?😉

[sterile kindle]

My point here is simply that the gold standard does not allow enough flexibility in times of crisis.

[plush plaza]

No economical system does, I guess.

[sweet crow]

I mean, we did have high CPI inflation during World War 1. I do believe this contributed to the Great Depression. But when I was referring to inflation, I meant asset and credit inflation brought on by over lending. For reference, Margin loans in the stock market leading up to the Great Depression were as high as 20%. Compared to today around 2%.

[sterile kindle]

Yes, but despite its flaws, I think the current system provides more flexibility in times of crisis.

Alright, I have to go now.

[sweet crow]

The gold standard didn't allow the flexibility to deal with the crisis of the Great Depression, because the crisis wasn't supposed to happen in the first place. We made our financial rules more flexible than the gold standard was supposed to allow. The gold standard was a rigid cage for a reason. We decided to break out of that cage to swim with the sharks and got eaten.

So you can't blame the cage for what happened.

[sweet crow]

Our system allows us to avoid or lessen crisis' in exchange for inevitable collapse. And the cycle repeats.

[plush plaza]

Let me say goodbye to you with a quote from Woodrow Wilson after signing the Federal Reserve Act:

I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world - no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.

👋🏻

[sweet crow]

Like I'm certain the ancient civilizations were using the "flexibility" argument for their coin debasement policies. 😂

[slow fossil]

I'm not really tracking the conversation and I don't have a side.
But I do think we must point out misinformation when a dubious claim (or quote) is proffered.

[main basin]

Sure, but if you study the raw 4k videos recorded at the time of his speeches, you can easily analyze his micro-expressions and determine the true intent behind his words.

[hidden steeple]

I can only pull that off with 8k footage.

[plush plaza]

https://www.businessmanagementdaily.com/33550/woodrow-wilson-all-big-men-are-dreamers/

Pls don‘t ask the resolution of the screenshot.

[rotund hare]

AI vs AI.

[cedar hound]

That heartbreaking moment when the AI doesn't back up your preferred narrative 😭

or tell you you look handsome today

sadge

Remember gang, it doesn't count as cheating on your wife if you receive all of your emotional needs from Grok girlfriend

You're all winners to Grok girlfriend 🫶

[dry carbon]

GM Real Intelligences

[zinc lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-actually-debatable-marques-brownlee-i-disagree-my-opinion-is-different-mkbhd-gif-14683552351975984313

[cursive crypt]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spy-vs-spy-mad-magazine--k01KQA092GVKRH0SRY6R6MZP76G

[odd dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-no-signs-of-intelligent-life-gif-13481205

[odd dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-confused-john-travolta-gif-16946746

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-wtf-huh-john-travolta-confused-gif-5521264

[zinc lichen]

https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2049101578859065585

zerohedge (@zerohedge)

BOOM

*UAE DECIDES TO EXIT OPEC AND OPEC+

X · Apr 28, 2026, 12:21 PM

[high meteor]

https://giphy.com/gifs/benjammins-lather-oil-up-UHOnZRVZGZWLL4zCyB

[acoustic fog]

You overestimate this chat...

[hidden steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/whoa-gif-20492375

[high meteor]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dumb-and-dumber-cover-ears-2dcW1Dlu2sZnW

[somber grail]

Why do you still have amphibious units in Asia?

[dry carbon]

Krigs convinced trump they could make money on shorts if they left their special ops stationed there

[odd dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/therealnasa00-frogman-gif-25845996

[somber grail]

they are moving now

will be in ME in a couple of days

[dry carbon]

Maybe we will have some removal operation like what happened with maduro?

[somber grail]

no

[autumn quartz]

Bro's gotta be under a mountain or something

[somber grail]

rip POLIS

[agile eagle]

rip SOL

[hidden steeple]

It's stepping out of the way for Z.INK

[limber belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/huntrix-zoey-kdh-rumi-mira-gif-7417120971839259468

[high meteor]

I see you got young daughter/s

no way you would know this cartoon otherwise lol

[limber belfry]

Hehe in Asia everyone, their cousin and grandmother knows KDH

[slow fossil]

Same in the US...

[dry carbon]

GM Kpopers

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2049430785967755307?s=20

Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru)

🇺🇸 Today, Jerome Powell will deliver his last FOMC press conference as Federal Reserve Chair.

X · Apr 29, 2026, 10:09 AM

The end of another epoch

[cursive crypt]

What are the Polymarket odds he will say "Buy More Polis" ?

[dry carbon]

Antrophic revenue is growing well

Maybe the AI hype will be able to sustain itself ?

[somber grail]

lol

https://giphy.com/gifs/morgan-freeman-good-luck-kVaj8JXJcDsqs

[dry carbon]

Kinda insane honestly

[sterile kindle]

Some experts say that the fact that the Emirates are leaving OPEC will lead to much greater volatility in oil prices. both upward and downward with less control over price stability. I’m not really sure what to think about this analysis.

[somber grail]

Look at the expense side instead

[plush plaza]

Last-man-standing just started.

[hidden steeple]

I don't think OpenAI is gonna make it.

If they bust, everything is gonna crash.

They'll likely get bought up by GOOG, AMZ or META.

[dry carbon]

40% margin

Even though it is true that they are burning a lot of money right now

[nimble spade]

Microsoft I bet would be most likely given their existing relations

[hidden steeple]

Possibly. But it seems things have soured

[proud olive]

sounds yuge but UAE is not that big in the oil game right?

[somber grail]

this is flat out wrong

lmao

don't use google made up numbers

go do the deep research to figure out their spend

[somber grail]

Their big issue is going to come when they try to swap to token based fees instead of monthly cause the monthly sub is absolutely obliterating cash at the moment

So many less people won't happily spam bad prompts or be happy with mediocre results if they have to pay for the tokens every time

[hidden steeple]

True

No one knows how much tokens are being subsidized by investors, but it's probably 70-80%.

Mythos costing 5x more was a clue.

Another separate point is: There's definitely going to be an increasing gap of power between those that can afford major token spend and those who can't.

[somber grail]

and most power users on $200/month subs probably cost these companies 1-2.5k

[sterile kindle]

Roughly about 10% of OPEC’s production, apparently. I think the main impact would be psychological on the market, since it’s an important player. Others might follow afterward, and we could see a loss of stability in oil prices with excessive drops or spikes that could potentially lead to bankruptcies, for example

[somber grail]

The subsidies are HUGE

Microsoft just swapped github copilot to token based

and if they can't subsidize anymore

no one can

is my assumption atm

[hidden steeple]

Anthropic is gating their subscription loads more and more and pushing people to their API

[somber grail]

I think the huge backlogs all these AI proxy companies has is at risk as well

50% of datacenters are cancelled or delayed this year

[hidden steeple]

Wen do you think the AI bubble pops?

[somber grail]

I actually thought we were heading into it

in February

then the war happened

and every1 forgot about the issues

and we got some huge relief rally 😄

I think Q3

if I had to pick a time

earnings is too good this quarter

[hidden steeple]

I think it will be in 2027. If I was to throw a guess, I'd say q1 or q2.

[somber grail]

so people can ignore it

Q3 or like October this year

earnings will take a huge hit w/ the supply shock

like entire supply chain gets fucked

even if they completely re-opened the Strait tomorrow

8weeks of disruption on so many different materials is absurd

[nimble spade]

I agree, 2027-2028 I'd say

[somber grail]

I think we see it before then

I think it's gtd to happen by then

I'm not very short atm though

[somber grail]

did gemini make that

ZeSKK trying to send me a hack

u know everything is getting hacked past 4 weeks

it's an exciting time either way

[sterile kindle]

Warren Buffett is waiting patiently with his pile of cash

[dry carbon]

I would never hack you >.>

Yup, gemini deep research

[somber grail]

Gemini hallucinates too much for me

[dry carbon]

Maybe, but the research seems solid

[nimble spade]

I really don't think we're gonna see AI reach the bombastic promises that have been made. I hope at least things are gonna pivot to more local models rather than external services, were currently at the peak of things swinging towards the cloud and servers, I think at some point things will come back to being local

[somber grail]

oh we def won't lol

the improvements are so incremental now

it's rly good at some tasks

[sterile kindle]

The war in Iran is unlikely to end anytime soon, in my opinion. This will have consequences for production

[somber grail]

but even then I don't know if the costs are worth the output

inference is 10x more than prev year

so try and incrementally improve models

when assumption was inference would get cheaper

so I think we run into this issue where marginal users quit once it goes to fee based token system

and remaining users have to take on the inference burden

and u just keep slicing off marginal users

now Iunno if all that needs to happen to pop the bubble

maybe it does

then it won't be til 2027/2028

my guess atm is Q2 earnings take a hit due to supply shocks

u start seeing cancellations in the backlogs

and everything else that happens just pours fuel on the fire

backlog cancellations is going to HEAVILY re-rate so many huge names

[sterile kindle]

Corporate earnings forecasts are very strong, but I wonder whether they might quickly change course

[somber grail]

then yeah at the end of it all AMZN/GOOG/META/MSFT scoop up everything

[split elbow]

OPENAI to ZERO

[somber grail]

well

Intel mentioned headwinds coming a couple of times

but the stock just kept going higher

Intel is a name I did sell too early but wte

could have COPY traded

whole thesis was security for US and that played out nicely

but holy fuck it ran so much harder

semi's just printy printy

no more doom posting though

UPONLY

maybe after AI pops everyone swaps their compute to TAO or BTC

[dry carbon]

it needs to end before the world cup

[dry carbon]

that would be awesome

[sterile kindle]

People will turn to free AI or low-cost subscription options, but they won’t ruin themselves over it—at least not those who have no financial or economic incentive to do so. It’s not as if a single AI company has a monopoly, and that will be less and less the case. Chinese AI and others are entering the space… and this is only the beginning

[agile eagle]

I've read as high as $5-$7K.

I'm definitely trying to max out my token usage between token resets. These subsidies will definitely go away.

[nimble spade]

I severely doubt it tbh, coz ofc for BTC thats all ruled by ASICs and for TAO, whos gonna need to train AI when the bubble has already burst? and theres no other major coins I can think of where GPU mining makes sense

[somber grail]

yeah ofc I was memeing 😂

[autumn quartz]

Should we buy our own compute or

[zinc lichen]

everything going bust end of year is kinda on cycle timeline

than we doom till mid 2027 than we start up only for next bull

[nimble spade]

its a good question tho, what happens to all that hardware after everything goes bust?

I guess the least bad thing would to dump it all on the 2nd hand market so us plebs can have a turn playing with their expensive toys, but honestly with how the world is I wouldn't be surprised if it got the ET treatment and they burried it all in a landfill coz it was cheaper

[nimble spade]

depends, but probably not considering current RAM prices

[somber grail]

GPUs get very cheap again

[agile eagle]

Difficult decision. Requires fairly substantial up-front capital investment to run quality local models. That equipment depreciates over time and will need to be replaced. But we’re also seeing solid optimizations of OS models that reduce compute. There’s probably a sweet spot we hit in the next year in which local model compute isn’t egregiously expensive but still delivers close to frontier model quality. @halcyon trout has a lot to say about this

I’m personally trying to maximize for subsidies at the $200/mo rate now, and will consider a larger investment into compute as that deteriorates. Side note: I also think Venice.ai has a pretty interesting token model with VVV/Diem. DIEM seems like a pretty decent play. Perpetual $1 in daily inference for every token held

[sterile kindle]

Who is still buying NVIDIA?

The trend is always right, and the trend is still upward for NVIDIA

If NVIDIA drops by 90%, I’ll be a buyer 👀

In the meantime, there are certainly better opportunities elsewhere

Is there a prediction market on Polymarket about the liquidation of Michael Burry’s NVIDIA position?

[hidden steeple]

Retail

[high meteor]

I think AI will become just another app/smartphone thing

where it's convinent

helps with a bunch of stuff

but nothing spectacular like discovering cancer cure or something

[sterile kindle]

Nearly an 80% drop for Nike. The market has punished it

[hidden steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[sterile kindle]

On Ubisoft, the 3.7 level reacted to the exact point. keep watching

[high meteor]

https://x.com/dangreenheck/status/2049546673311863282?s=20

Dan Greenheck (@dangreenheck)

Was working on four projects in parallel this morning (usually only do 2-3) and hit my 5 hour limit with Claude (I have the 20X Max plan).

I had $200 in free credits they gifted me so I turned on extra usage to see how expensive this actually is.

Took about 20 mins to rack up

X · Apr 29, 2026, 5:49 PM

on the AI subject

so using ai makes you dumber and then they increase the price of it and you won't be able to do things unless the company keeps paying

sounds like extortion lol

[zinc lichen]

bc it is

similar to how Amazon operates

you open a store there, start gaining track with some items, they sell good you start making money, than Amazon opens up their own afiliate with pricess under your profit margin, they keep it up till they run you out of buisness, than jack up their pricess

it will be terible for IT in few years, bc rn nobody is hiering and training juniors

and in few years there wont be enough good senior programers

[sterile kindle]

I have a $20 ChatGPT subscription. It suits my personal use very well. I never run out

However, I get the impression that ChatGPT is making more and more mistakes. It forgets things or doesn’t notice them. You often have to ask if it’s sure, and then it checks and realizes its mistake on its own. It’s still far from perfect, even for the most basic requests

However, I’ve noticed that it’s getting better and better at coding and making fewer and fewer mistakes. And when it does make mistakes, it corrects them more easily than a few months ago

[high meteor]

I meant for professionals with heavy use of ai

[high meteor]

chatgp was good with 4, when it rolled to 5 the downgrade was noticable

I also used $20 sub then

it was completely useless

I realized fixing the mistakes it did took me longer than to do the work myself from scratch

(not coding)

[rotund hare]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smg4-smg4skill-issue--k01KQDC46R7KM30KYW9BPSC69E2

[sterile kindle]

Yes, if it’s just asking two or three questions from time to time, the subscription isn’t really useful. I’ve canceled my subscription several times, but then when I run out of free credits and want to use it, I end up subscribing again each time

I could switch from one AI to another, but I prefer to keep a history in the same place for certain things

[zinc lichen]

https://x.com/tradfi/status/2049548973061599262

tradfi news (@tradfi)

*META LAUNCHES STABLECOIN PAYOUTS FOR CREATORS USING STRIPE - THE INFORMATION

*META USES CIRCLE’S STABLECOIN ON SOLANA AND POLYGON BLOCKCHAINS FOR PAYOUTS

#META • #CRCL

X · Apr 29, 2026, 5:58 PM

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.04.29 — 20:36

@WatcherGuru

• Google $GOOGL reports $109.9 billion in revenue for Q1 2026, beating expectations. →
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@DegenerateNews

• NEW: @blockaid_ WARNS OF ONGOING EXPLOIT ON @SweatEconomy ON @NEARProtocol →
• META IS OFFERING CIRCLE’S STABLECOIN ON THE SOLANA AND POLYGON BLOCKCHAIN TO PAY OUT CREATORS, STARTING WITH THOSE IN COLOMBIA AND PHILIPPINES SOURCE: theinformation.com/briefings… →

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[slow fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/well-well-look-who-it-is-surprised-nice-of-you-to-show-youre-late-about-time-gif-14535983

[halcyon trout]

Yeah for ATMTA’s needs and setup you are playing things perfectly. Cloud AI is still heavily subsidized and services and tools are changing rapidly. If a new tool starts spinning up UE5 assets out of thin air but acts as a sub / service not an OSS locally hostable option, the community will be glad that you have 50-100k to pump into that as a source of acceleration as opposed to be OSS hardware bound. If / when prices shoot up there’s always time to explore the self hosted OSS landscape then. You are looking at it perfectly.

If your primary use case was Open Claw and standard inference and were getting murdered by APIs, or were handling sensitive customer data at scale, different thoughts of course. But for this moment and what SA is trying to do I think you are nailing your approach.

You are showing a rare combination of AI leadership of aggressive adoption with controlled and well thought out restraint.

For whatever my thoughts are worth. A+ approach to AI from ATMTA right now.

[hidden steeple]

@agile eagle has never seen a B. He's only scored A+ since Kindergarden.

[agile eagle]

true story

[agile eagle]

Still need to set up that coffee call. I broke ground on the Mission Control system this week

[hidden steeple]

He only shows up if there's quad shots on the table

[halcyon trout]

Yeah 100% I’m around anytime that’s good for you. Getting ready to host a featured event at Pennovation for Philly Tech week on local AI so just jamming in the lab for the next 7 days.

nobody outside Philly will know what that is but it’s a big deal

In @hidden steeple words, I am kind of becoming HIM in local AI.

[hidden steeple]

YOU ARE HIM!!!

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.04.30 — 01:36

@WatcherGuru

• 🇺🇸 President Trump says "Jerome 'Too Late' Powell wants to stay at the Fed because he can't get a job anywhere else." "Nobody wants him." →
• →
• 🇮🇷🇺🇸 Iranian Parliament Speaker Ghalibaf says President Trump "cranked oil up to $120" from the US blockade in the Strait of Hormuz. "Next stop: $140" →

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[high meteor]

https://x.com/therealbuni/status/2049650046287630620?s=20

ElBuni (@therealbuni)

Periodista : pregunta de la nasa

Trump: el mas indicado para responderte es el director de la NASA con esas orejas que tiene, escucha re bien, tiene oido de gato😳

*le hacen zoom a las orejas*

▶ Play video

X · Apr 30, 2026, 12:40 AM

[zinc lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-notice-michael-westen-jeffrey-donovan-i-don't-speak-spanish-gif-11518872308553213343

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.04.30 — 06:36

@WatcherGuru

• A lawsuit filed in New York County Supreme Court accuses JPMorgan Chase executive Lorna Hajdini of sexually harassing and abusing a junior male employee, identified anonymously as John Doe. The complaint alleges Hajdini drugged him, subjected him to racial abuse, coerced him into non-consensual sex acts and threatened his career after he rejected her advances. The lawsuit also names JPMorgan Chase, alleging the bank enabled the misconduct and retaliated after Doe reported the claims. JPMorgan denies the allegations, saying an internal investigation found no evidence supporting them and that Doe declined to participate or provide key information. Hajdini and JPMorgan had not filed formal responses to the lawsuit at the time of the report. →
• JPMorgan executive Lorna Hajdini accused in new lawsuit of drugging, sexually harassing, and threatening the career of a junior male employee. →
• Brent Crude oil rises over $120 →

@DegenerateNews

• NEW: WHITE HOUSE OPPOSES ANTHROPIC’S PLAN TO EXPAND ACCESS TO MYTHOS MODEL - WSJ SOURCE: wsj.com/tech/ai/white-house-… →

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[high meteor]

Poor John Doe, always getting in trouble

[rotund hare]

AI slop.

[autumn quartz]

That did read as generated tbh

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.04.30 — 11:36

@WatcherGuru

• 🇺🇸 California gas prices surpass $6 per gallon for the first time since 2023. →

@DegenerateNews

• NEW: @blockaid_ SAYS IT HAS IDENTIFIED AN ONGOING ADMIN KEY COMPROMISE EXPLOIT ON @wasabi_protocol ACROSS ETHEREUM AND BASE →

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[halcyon trout]

That’s genuinely me that’s wild 😂

I hate to break it to you guys but I don’t care enough about these conversations to plug them into AI 😂

[slow fossil]

I think it's harder to tell what is human and what is "AI slop" than people think...

[halcyon trout]

It also creates the question independent of AI about what slop is.

“You are showing a rare combination of AI leadership of aggressive adoption with controlled and well thought out restraint.”

[somber grail]

I think a problem is if you read AI stuff frequently it ends up impacting how you write things yourself

[halcyon trout]

Like is that slop even though I wrote it? Or only if it’s AI?

[somber grail]

Like all the it's X it's Y language is something people didn't use frequently but AI just ran with it and now people regularly use it

probably part of the reason everything looks like AI slop

I've noticed myself use this

and I never did it before

AI brainrot

[halcyon trout]

I definitely talk 90% to AI all day in a hardware lab so that’s possibly part of it

I might genuinely be sounding like an AI now 😂

Haha I could totally see AI saying this

That’s just my brain now 😂

80+ hour weeks at an AI coding terminal and doing research with AI interfaces it’s totally possible I’ve started sounding like an AI without realizing it

https://tenor.com/view/jordi-baste-tv3-no-pot-ser-com-robot-gif-16057126

But I don’t use AI to talk for me in chats I don’t see the point.

I chat because I like letting my crazy shit out a little into the world. It gives me pleasure and relief. Posting AI nonsense would kill the reason I do it.

And with that, here’s a random clip of my new PC pulling ~1650w at the wall 😁

Thing is a monster.

I need to get it insured I haven’t figured out who to talk to about that.

[rotund hare]

hahahaha you are absorbing AI into your flesh

also that was a joke. it was the fastest way to say you sounded like AI 😛 i didnt actually think it was AI generated

https://klipy.com/gifs/bills-ugh--k01KQF9HJ2T8487MAG2GX5E7SY3

[halcyon trout]

It worked 😂

[rotund hare]

sparked an entire conversation

[sweet crow]

AI is truly taking over. It's infiltrating our very minds.

https://tenor.com/view/omg-waitaminute-gif-26448308

[cursive crypt]

The masses have always been easily manipulated.

[slow fossil]

We just aren't accustomed to humans complimenting one another anymore 😅

[sweet crow]

Curious thing that is. It's difficult for me to determine what exactly is the driving factor that determines what cultures massively accept and adopt into their behavior.

[dry carbon]

GM AI slops

[split elbow]

gm

[hidden steeple]

WE ARE HIM!

[gritty root]

AI fuktup thogs around

[hidden steeple]

AI CANNOT CREATE KAJMAK!

[rotund hare]

DAMN MR8 FOR HOLOSIM #1?

who is the winner?

[gritty root]

Like your sync is a bit out

[deep forge]

Lerinor of course lol

[rotund hare]

https://klipy.com/gifs/denzel-washington-relief--k01KQFFYYY4RZV1HJX4ZSMJQ5DV

@acoustic fog CONGRATS

[halcyon trout]

My AI server probably could have been 60 Greenaders.

Really puts things into perspective.

I fucked up 😂

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-pew-gif-14552925

Nothing makes sense when compared to SA assets I think is the lesson

[acoustic fog]

Now we're talking!!!

[acoustic fog]

Thanks!!

[rotund hare]

are you saying you could have bought 60 greenaders?

Zeus officially rugged.

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.04.30 — 16:36

@WatcherGuru

• Google $GOOGL surpasses $4.5 trillion market cap, adding over $300,000,000,000 so far today. →
• $META crashes 10%, wiping out $175,000,000,000 from its market cap today. →

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[cursive crypt]

My job it to make everyone want a Hotrod and then be the guy that builds their Dream we are all manipulated by what we think we want. We are so busy building dreams I hardly have time to build my dream Lowbie so if we sell more dreams because of this video it is the fault of @sweet crow https://youtube.com/shorts/9g9wBAuxruI?si=LoapNrXHVHUhwsTq

[rotund hare]

@halcyon trout this is you in 1 month

[dry carbon]

https://x.com/BullTheoryio/status/2049865223293874682?s=20

Bull Theory (@BullTheoryio)

BREAKING: Japan just confirmed a massive Yen-buying intervention.

Last time the Bank of Japan sold US dollars to save the Yen, global markets crashed brutally.

But this time it is even worse.

Today they are dealing with two problems at the same time.

Japan's 10 year bond

X · Apr 30, 2026, 2:55 PM

[zinc lichen]

just in time for "sell in May and go away" 4 year event

[split elbow]

happy s&p500 new ath to those who celebrate

[dry carbon]

When sol to 400 sir

come on

[somber grail]

40 first

[dry carbon]

would be lovely to buy 40 dollars sol

[void quarry]

I’ll celebrate when the job markets good or when our national debt isn’t skyrocketing, not when the rich are getting richer due to inflation

[split elbow]

bro grow up thats pie in the sky stuff

i get that that would be good for average joe but cmon

debt is a figment of our imagination

play the system not your ideals

[somber grail]

you can buy HYPE for $40 right now

[dry carbon]

Better than buying sol at 40?

[somber grail]

[dry carbon]

Where is the Romance in that

Life became so boring

[void quarry]

Tell that to blackrock. They make a lot of money managing treasury securities. Burry your head in the sand if you want to. Lenders are making money, where the rest of us pay for it via inflation to keep from defaulting.

[split elbow]

brother i am the lender

but thats by Necessity

the key to life is fading what normies feel the neccesity to do

like its not even comlpicated but you need to fade consensus

[zinc lichen]

who knows, so best to buy both

and since we can buy HYPE on SOL, we can, put our sol in lend, borow USDC against it, and than buy HYPE

and have both

and than nort coreans hack the wherever we did that and we go to 0

[storm rapids]

Here's that Lowbie Hot Rod 🔥

[somber grail]

just buy on their network 😂

[zinc lichen]

and add another wallet to menage, nah, im just buying it on SOL, for now

[void quarry]

You and the %1 are doing fine then. Everyone else can’t even get a job.

[limber belfry]

Loop that shxt

[zinc lichen]

loop it, stake it, restake it, do it few times, what could go wrong

[cursive crypt]

ouch no Lowbie for you!

[somber grail]

a rabby wallet?

not much to manage

crazy you aren't on hyperliquid yet

[dry carbon]

Only you have the willpower to use other blockchains.

[slow fossil]

Agreed. SOL is a means to my SA ends.

[rotund hare]

i resisted for awhile. super easy to onboard SOL and buy Hype directly. Hype is gunna be my SOL of 2028.

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.04.30 — 21:36

@WatcherGuru

• 🇺🇸 Senate unanimously passes resolution banning members from trading on prediction markets. →
• Elon Musk says most cryptocurrencies are "scams" during OpenAI court testimony. "Some of them have merit, but most of them are scams." →
• Elon Musk testified in an ongoing lawsuit against OpenAI, stating in court that "some" cryptocurrencies have merit but "most…are scams." His comments came as discussions resurfaced about OpenAI's abandoned 2018 plan to raise funds through an ICO. Musk, a co-founder of OpenAI, is suing the company over its shift toward a for-profit model and partnership with Microsoft, claiming it deviated from its original mission. OpenAI has responded that Musk supported earlier plans to create a for-profit structure, including a potential token sale. →
• Google $GOOGL market cap is now larger than the GDP of both Japan and India. Google: $4.5 trillion Japan: $4.2 trillion India: $4.1 trillion →
• 🇺🇸 President Trump says he doesn't care if Jerome Powell remains as a Federal Reserve Governor. →

@DegenerateNews

• NEW: CLAUDE SECURITY IS NOW IN PUBLIC BETA FOR CLAUDE ENTERPRISE CUSTOMERS →
• NEW: U.S. SECRETARY OF WAR PETE HEGSETH SAYS HE IS A “LONG ENTHUSIAST” OF BITCOIN AND AGREES IT IS A TOOL TO PROJECT POWER →
• NEW: SOLANA-BASED @DeFiCarrot ANNOUNCES IT IS SHUTTING DOWN - "THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT THE OUTCOME WE WANTED, BUT THE SITUATION WITH THE DRIFT EXPLOIT, HAS PROVEN TO BE CATASTROPHIC FOR OUR CONTINUED OPERATIONS" →

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[gritty root]

any sale ??

[sterile kindle]

The team is buying HYPE tokens in bulk, but the problem is we don’t know what they’re going to do with them. Will they keep them? Distribute them via airdrops? Burn them? The question is whether they’ll end up flooding the market again. What we already know is that they will allocate tokens to the team with vesting — but those will come back onto the market one way or another.
Yet another token with too many uncertainties and not decentralized enough. Ethereum and Bitcoin only — but especially Ethereum.
That said, Hyperliquid is a great project and a major cash machine that doesn’t look like it’s slowing down anytime soon. And the token clearly has and will have significant utility. But there’s always that sword of Damocles hanging over it: centralization and the risk of potential changes.

Ethereum (ETH) carries the promise that it belongs to no one, and there will come a time when it becomes a monumental cash machine.Trade $HYPE and use it to buy $ETH. ETH is the beast — the beast that will take over the entire financial system, including AI. It’s just a matter of time.

[sterile kindle]

When traditional finance realizes that Ethereum is a beast that cannot be stopped and will only keep growing, then Ethereum will shift paradigms and dethrone Bitcoin fairly quickly. Decentralization, burn, security, staking, guaranteed dividends (which don’t exist in any stock). This is not investment advice, but we likely won’t see ETH below $10K for much longer. This is just my humble opinion. $HYPE only offers me the promise of a centralized token being bought back by the team, and a short- to medium-term cash machine — with no guarantee it will maintain its monopoly over time.

[sterile kindle]

So yes, I can already hear the laughter of those reading these lines. It may sound optimistic. Some will talk about disappointing price performance, others will say that Ethereum is expensive and slow. But Ethereum is evolving and will continue to evolve constantly. Adoption will come naturally, because money attracts money. It’s just a matter of time.

I’ll repeat it: I think we are in a monumental phase 1 of accumulation for ETH. Below $5K, below $10K — to me, it’s an opportunity to keep accumulating. Hopefully it lasts, and the price continues to stagnate for as long as possible.

Just my opinion and my convictions.

[somber grail]

Every Elliot wave practitioner would say we are heading into 5th wave fwiw

Not sure why you would think it's 1st wave

[hidden steeple]

WEN 9th wave?

[somber grail]

Who knows I think its silly but some guys have tracked market well enough it is a signal to acknowledge exists

And most patterns stay true cause enough believe in it until they eventually break

[sterile kindle]

I was talking about phases, not waves. I think in terms of phases as long as chart-based analysis allows it, and the crypto market still allows that. It will become more complicated when the market becomes more mature, I think. But yes, waves can be useful and they are real—they break down within each fractal of time units. I rarely look at other people’s analyses. I do my own analyses, and I have a bit of my own style with my own discoveries.

[dry carbon]

Funny you guys are talking about that, because I lost 1 hour of my lunch due to that stuff.

My parents know that I invest a little bit, work in the crypto sector and use AI in some capacity.

So whenever any of his friends mention something remotely related to those topics they want me to meet the guy.

Today they introduced me to a guy, 45 years old, work in the government as an advisor for the governor, and he told me that he managed to create an algorithm to trade all markets with 90% success rate using AI

In the end he was basically using Elliot waves and he made the AI hallucinate into thinking that he developed a new omega powerful trading technique

I felt bad for him, couldn’t bring myself to destroy his vibe

[sterile kindle]

What matters is not the success rate. You can have a 30% success rate and still come out profitable.

[dry carbon]

But felt worst that I lost time with that

I told my parents there is a cooldown now before they introduce me new AI genius

[sterile kindle]

People refer to and learn what is already known by everyone and what has been shared—whether it’s knowledge (I would call them discoveries) or indicators. But these things were discovered by someone. Nobody taught them. Whether it’s Elliott waves or anything else. Believe me, there are things that have never been said or written. Maybe they’ve been discovered, maybe not—I don’t know.

People want to repeat what others have done or discovered. That’s legitimate, I would say. But finance is not a history lesson. Market finance is complex; it has its secrets to uncover. It changes and adapts according to behavior and technological evolution, even if it keeps the same foundations.

I can tell you that support and resistance are just a construct of the mind. Ask yourself why sometimes the price bounces where you expect it to, and why other times it doesn’t—even when the setup looks the same.

If it were enough to blindly learn a lesson like you learn history to be profitable in financial markets, then the majority would be winning.

The hardest thing in the markets is being able to simplify things as much as possible from complex concepts.

[sterile kindle]

If there were to be a fifth wave, as you say, $1,590 would, according to my analysis, be the maximum drawdown at time zero before a significant rebound. Whatever I do—whether I buy or sell—that’s where I would place my mental stop loss if I had to set one and had a bullish bias. We can wick below, but if we close significantly below $1,590 without a meaningful rebound beforehand, then it means my analysis was wrong. Otherwise, yes, we can clearly see four waves on ETH.

I’m sharing once again the analysis I call “horizontal” on Ethereum, which I’ve already shared many times on the Star Atlas Discord. It’s not the most powerful analysis I have on Ethereum, but it’s the only one I’ll share here.

[slow dock]

Pretty massive news if you’re American. More people in the market would be good .
https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/2049926097165328555?s=46&t=k2LWK2QRbvfY3mchxit9CQ

Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh)

🚨 JUST IN: President Trump officially launches the "TrumpIRA" program opening up a low-cast IRA account for MILLIONS of Americans

This means they can get MATCHING FUNDS from the federal government in that retirement account

"Beginning at the start of next year, every American

▶ Play video

X · Apr 30, 2026, 6:57 PM

[hidden steeple]

https://x.com/0x_Abdul/status/2049830893209190681?s=20

Abdul (@0x_Abdul)

april 2026 was the worst month ever in terms of defi exploits

~$635M lost in total, 28 incidents in 30 days:

1) apr 1 - drift - $285m
2) apr 3 - silo v2 - $392k
3) apr 4 - tmm - $1.67m
4) apr 5 - denaria finance - $165k
5) apr 9 - aethir - $423k
6) apr 12 - hyperbridge - $2.5m

X · Apr 30, 2026, 12:39 PM

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.05.01 — 02:36

@DegenerateNews

• NEW: $635M HACKED FROM CRYPTO PROTOCOLS IN APRIL - AT LEAST ONE EXPLOIT DAILY SINCE APRIL 25 SOURCE: defillama.com/hacks →
• NEW: $SOL PRINTS 7 STRAIGHT MONTHLY RED CANDLES →

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[somber grail]

SEVEN

Straight

[hidden steeple]

🫨

[high meteor]

there won't be eight, right?

[main basin]

https://tenor.com/view/candles-petals-rose-gif-11243535

[autumn quartz]

Didn't know Honda was working on reusable rockets
https://youtube.com/shorts/x_7daFnWSCQ?si=4QpCqGX0gV3KQDVb

[somber grail]

[sweet crow]

It's gotta come back down soon right?

[somber grail]

What does?

[terse quest]

What an awesome emoji 👌

[sweet crow]

The crypto market.

I assumed your emoji was in reference to shorts getting liquidated.

Bearish divergence? Or does that not matter on 5 minute?

Did it back here too. So at least a local top?

[somber grail]

mate Iunno what chart you are even looking at

but it's nuking on no volume which isn't great

but are the volumes skewed cause those large amounts are at an open or close?

why do u post a chart with no information at all

[gritty root]

[sweet crow]

I said crypto market. 🤷

[gritty root]

natankotiga

[rotund hare]

it looks like a childs scribbling with zero context

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.05.01 — 17:36

@WatcherGuru

• Spirit airlines prepares to shut down. →
• 🇺🇸🇪🇺 President Trump to increase tariffs on European Union cars and trucks to 25%. →
• Apple $AAPL rises 5%, adding $205,000,000,000 to its market cap today. →
• →
• Spirit Airlines is preparing to cease operations after failing to secure a $500 million government bailout, according to The Wall Street Journal, which cited people familiar with the matter. The budget carrier was unable to gain enough support from certain bondholders and the government to obtain the funding needed to keep flying before running out of cash. →

@DegenerateNews

• NEW: HYPERLIQUID WHALE @loraclexyz DEACTIVATES @X ACCOUNT →
• NEW: @ethereumfndn ANNOUNCES IT HAS FINALIZED THE TERMS OF A 10,000 ETH SALE AT AN AVERAGE PRICE OF $2,292.15 VIA OTC →
• NEW: @moonpay ANNOUNCES “THE LAUNCH OF MOONAGENTS CARD, A VIRTUAL MASTERCARD DEBIT CARD THAT LETS USERS AND AI AGENTS SPEND STABLECOINS DIRECTLY FROM THEIR ONCHAIN BALANCES AT ANY ONLINE MERCHANT GLOBALLY THAT ACCEPTS MASTERCARD” →

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[somber grail]

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/2050291242416914480

unusual_whales (@unusual_whales)

Trump says he’s still considering a taxpayer-funded deal to bail out Spirit Airlines.

X · May 1, 2026, 7:08 PM

America so progressive lately

Very socialist

[sweet crow]

Taking a vote. Do we want bitcoin to go up or down? I'll send it whichever direction by inverse decision.

[vapid valley]

What could go wrong? He could merge it with People Express..

[sweet crow]

Yall are as indecisive as this pennant. 😂

[zinc lichen]

https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/2050261777896681756

Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru)

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 US government says it is up $40,000,000,000 on its 10% ownership stake in Intel $INTC.

X · May 1, 2026, 5:11 PM

[somber grail]

yeah but if they repeat this enough times and create a beautiful communist country where the people own the means of production then the spending won't matter

[zinc lichen]

each American pays 110 000$ and debt go poof, we just need someone to give them little loan on that

[somber grail]

Pizza Index

[odd dawn]

I like the ones from Dominoes

[sweet crow]

You ordering some tonight?

[agile eagle]

hot and fresh

[odd dawn]

I ain’t trynna end up like my homie did over on poly

[somber grail]

so unfair he can't trade 400k

but admin can long and short 700M at a time

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6Z0YUjBW0ak

[odd dawn]

No comment

[slow fossil]

Solid logic.

[odd dawn]

[odd dawn]

We’ll see what the DOJ says

[slow fossil]

Do they have opinions these days?

[dry carbon]

Did we figure out what is going on?

He loves Fridays Jesus Christ

[hidden steeple]

WEN SW4GAFIED PIZZA PICS?

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.05.01 — 22:36

@DegenerateNews

• NEW: @coinbase CEO @brian_armstrong WANTS CLARITY ACT MARK UP →
• NEW: @EleanorTerrett IS "HEARING FROM INDUSTRY SOURCES THAT STABLECOIN YIELD COMPROMISE TEXT IS IMMINENT AND COULD DROP AS SOON AS TODAY" →

@WatcherGuru

• GameStop $GME is preparing an offer to acquire $EBAY, WSJ reports. →
• nitter.net/ethereumfndn/status/20… →
• Ethereum Foundation sells 10,000 $ETH worth $23,000,000. →

🛰️ END TRANSMISSION

[agile eagle]

That was the latest. Normally won’t do rectangle, but had too much dough and not enough round space

now discuss the economics of home pizza making

I personally don't think it's economical. Pretty sure I spent more making that than just buying a pizza

[hidden steeple]

WEN HEXAGON PIES?

[hidden steeple]

The next level is creating all the SA space ships

good social media marketing material

[slow fossil]

There’s value in the process.

[agile eagle]

Trust the process

[cursive crypt]

I'm a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist and there is way to much talk about pizza here. I hope your not wearing red shoes.

[twilit vigil]

Ooo the crust is glazed 🫶 the economic outlook is favorable

[agile eagle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/giphyqa-cN9Fq0kBbqxGg

[hidden steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935606734192529449/1301738745825071104/SW4G-commie.gif

[slow fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1026590874865504426/1299537796716953600/SW4G-HOMELANDER-THATS-THE-SPIRIT.gif

[rotund hare]

If you factor in health gains it's 1000% better. You know exactly what you put in the pizza. Buying a pizza exposes you to 1457474 chemicals and ultra processed foods.

I still buy pizza. 😅

[agile eagle]

Taste too

[rotund hare]

debateable. ultra processed pizza is DELICIOUS

[gritty root]

https://tenor.com/view/portal-hell-portal-to-hell-pizza-pizza-tower-gif-13419198426464103783

[ancient void]

📡 PUNAAB WHISPER — INTEL DROP
UTC 2026.05.02 — 08:36

@WatcherGuru

• Spirit Airlines officially shuts down. →
• Spirit Airlines issued the following statement announcing that it is ceasing operations immediately after 34 years in business "It is with great disappointment that on May 2, 2026, Spirit Airlines started an orderly wind-down of our operations, effective immediately. To our Guests: all flights have been cancelled, and customer service is no longer available. We are proud of the impact of our ultra-low-cost model on the industry over the last 34 years and had hoped to serve our Guests for many years to come." Source: spiritrestructuring.com/ →

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[rotund hare]

"customer service is no longer available"

Rugged.

[autumn quartz]

Oh dam

[autumn quartz]

Too many raw ingredients to get, without economy of scale I'm not surprised this pizza was more

[tidal storm]

Buying from a pizza place probably much cheaper. Buying from grocery store more expensive. Put in the time factor also probably more expensive either way. But it’s about the process and personal satisfaction. Mastering a skill. Experimenting. All of which you won’t get from a pizza parlor or frozen section.

If you have time for it then economically it should be viable

Also the science of dough itself is pretty crazy. Your own yeast vs instant yeast. 1-2 hour rise or 1-2-3 day cold fermentation in the fridge. Oil or no oil. Sugar or no sugar. So many variables.

Also the sauce. That is another scientific experiment on its own

What cheeses to use too

What toppings

It’s not economical but it’s spiritually satisfying if you can afford the time

[zinc lichen]

it totaly depends on where you live, prices varies alot

and oven, if you have shitty oven , like i do rn, no matter how good you make all the rest you will get crappy pizza

[tidal storm]

I have a semi shitty oven in Europe so yeah. I can only get so far with it but it’s enough 😂

Prices do vary, but also where shit is more expensive so is the pizza

Like in the US I lived in Portland which is west coast and very expensive. Huge pizza culture. Probably paying 20-35 dollars for a pizza depending on size. I can easily beat that there but that’s assuming you’ll make more than one. Like a block of cheese and a bag of flour etc expensive but you can get a lot out of it

Maybe

[zinc lichen]

this thing is totaly wacked, need new one lol, like i changed bottom healter, some electronics, and still it refuses to bake evenly from botom and top, so you ether raw top and burned bottom , or oposite lol

its busted, but i dont use the owen as much so didnt bother to spend money to replace it

[tidal storm]

Oh yeah that’s crazy mine does evenly but can’t get it hot enough

Only like 250c

We do a lot of bread maybe 3-4 times a week and 1-2 pizzas a week

[zinc lichen]

time to build a brick outside bbq and pizza oven

when i move to house its first thing that im gona do

[tidal storm]

Been on the agenda for two years but we still can’t decide whether to move closer to her parents or buy more land where we are at so haven’t done shit for years

It’s also the first thing on my list

Local farmers here do some insanely good sourdough with it

Pizza could finally reach final boss mode too

[gritty root]

today as every other day when I miss Pizza Tower on parking, in neighbor street there is good spot whit INK Yogurts so it´s just question where will day break

who like hot potato Golden ??

after caws there is a clawn

but where is clawn there is also

coffee break

https://tenor.com/view/bitcoin-glow-rotate-gif-23174770

yes, so what happened on other side, do you ask your self "when, where is half"

[tidal storm]

Auto translate fails Jimmy

[gritty root]

I know, otherwise it's like that. That immigrants and travelers of a similar nature have problems with AI integration even in the linguistic part of the tool.

so I'm not surprised that a few of you from Roma have traumas,

therefore, it does not surprise me that this virus is gaining the majority of users and carriers.

[swift canyon]

poetry<3