👽┃general

[west slate]

actually is there a limit for holosim because can't we link multiple holosim accounts to a single wallet and then multiple wallets

ie nobody can cry about it effecting leader boards so as far as holosim itself is concerned its a non issue (beyond people farming for the completion that is)

not saying I would do that but its way too open

[copper fjord]

nope, still broke

[honest crane]

HoloZim XP should just be capped with a daily limit for example. The fact that you can run bots like SLY to farm unlimited XP at no cost is the root for exploiting

[west slate]

daily exp is not even a thing for it, that does not change the fact that you can run multiple holosim accounts

right now that limit means nothing and would only increase alts not stop them

[honest crane]

you mean alt zink profiles ?

[west slate]

no, each zink profile can have multiple mainet wallets, holosim accounts can be linked and unlinked to wallets on the fly as well as I don't even know if there is a limit at this point to linking multiple holosim accounts to the same wallet because the leaderbaords on holosim are now set so it would not effect prize integrity there

the only way to curb it is to modify the holosim points and make other statements about alts for zink

note there is no issue anywhere else here ie ue5 is fine as far as this type of exploit is concerned, sage has its related costs so thats a non issue

[honest crane]

doesn't matter how many holosim accounts you link to your zink profile as long as one profile can only get a capped daily XP in the "Play Holosim" category

[west slate]

yes but that would be seprate from the exp cap on holosim itself

[honest crane]

absolutely, I'm not talking holosim ingame XP

[late condor]

that sounds so convoluted

I was so intimidated by all this I made sure I only ever have exactly one account - my ledger's

hopefully this will bring about the means to also delete unused profiles

or unlink them

or whatever

[queen sparrow]

!gm dont work again

[chilly tinsel]

did anyone else get an airdrop in play. staratlas inventory? lol

i'm kinda confused by it

5usdc and a 1x silver crew?

[upper cipher]

Holosim Rewards are live fam

.02 SOL received as well

Completionist bundle is not, least not yet. But the leaderboard rankings rewards have been sent

or are being sent. Check now!

[chilly tinsel]

ahhh that makes sense 🤣

ty ser

[chilly tinsel]

lol ngl, i freaked out for a hot second cause mine showed 5,000,000 USDC

but the actual was many magnitudes less

[upper cipher]

dude i saw 5m too

[upper cipher]

haha

i thought that was some type of OG reward, a small ty

[chilly tinsel]

i was like thank god for fat fingers

[upper cipher]

haha

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12654501364171447161

[queen sparrow]

guys why GM dont work ?

no one is answering me -.-

[upper cipher]

Sorry bro i stepped away for a few minutes

The bot is down atm, its not working for anyone.

[queen sparrow]

oki bro tnx

[rustic hamlet]

That explains it, thanks

[queen sparrow]

guys why the RACING MAP didnt change

its stay same from yesterday only the shooting mode changed

[viscid sleet]

🔨 Banned knowinggecko0407 indefinitely

🔨 Banned knowinggecko0407 indefinitely

[queen sparrow]

i waited 30 minutes the map to change and its stays same 😄

[limber steeple]

Exinade? Yep,should be the same if you joined that session.

[limpid isle]

Hey, are there a link to the ZINK discord server. I'm surprised I haven't seen any.

[west slate]

are we allowed to post the invite links here or do we need to dm them

for the zink discord that is

[upper cipher]

dm the referral ones

[west slate]

I can dm a link

[versed jasper]

Didn't realize there were more anomaly-type crews than just Anna Tolle 🙂 . I'm on the prowl to buy one, if any of you have one of any species and are willing to sell, please DM me

[random rapids]

Good morning Galia ❤️

[limber steeple]

[rough relic]

how to play golden era?

I have 2 ships

[upper cipher]

for z.ink xp?

[rough relic]

yes

[limber steeple]

A bit tricky but you can start here: #❓┃browser-game message

[carmine cradle]

is it required to link the wallet to z ink dashboard to star atlaz game?

[upper cipher]

are you asking if you have to have the same wallet in game and in the z.ink dashboard?

[carmine cradle]

yeah. coz I don't want to link my main wallet to the UE5

[upper cipher]

It shouldnt matter what wallet you have linked in Ue5, should just pull your EGS

long as you load Star Atlas on the EGS account you have linked

[unkempt falcon]

Where do I claim my awards? I can't find it.

[upper cipher]

it should work no matter what wallet you have in Ue5

[upper cipher]

play.staratlas

in the inventory - the 💎 on the left menu

[carmine cradle]

where to find EGS?

[upper cipher]

in your web address bar. where it shows holosim.staratlas - Change holosim to play and hit enter

log in, then check the gem on the left hand menu

[upper cipher]

thats just Epic games

You already have an epic games account right?

[carmine cradle]

yes sir

[upper cipher]

So just click on

and login with your normal epic account

[upper cipher]

refresh the page after doing so. If you have a green check here youre good

[carmine cradle]

done sir

[upper cipher]

play.staratlas.com

[unkempt falcon]

ty

[upper cipher]

now youre good, anytime you log in to that epic games account youll be working towards zXP

Its not instant. 3 hours or so between each update for that specific XP

[carmine cradle]

thanks sir

[carmine cradle]

Oh I see. That's why I my XP not increasing

[upper cipher]

yep for that one specifically, has to wait for the updates from EGS

when they come, it updates

and its like 3 hours between updates, give or take

the atlas/polis locking only rewards zXP once a day, 00:00 UTC each day. All of the other options are basically instant

[upper cipher]

np

[rough relic]

i dont know how to import my ships into SAGE?

even with the guide

maybe im dumb

[cold ledge]

its via the port of entry on the css of your faction

but i highly advise to have a plan before going in

[rough relic]

where on the screen?

[cold ledge]

did you simulate your ships

you have a plan on what to do in there?

[rough relic]

I have 2 ships

I want to mine

[cold ledge]

unfortunatly if the not big, you will loose solana in transactions

instead of making profit

[cold ledge]

what ships is it

did you check on eveeye if its profitable?

[rough relic]

one medium and one legendary

[cold ledge]

a mining ship`?

that might work

ok so on https://atlas.eveeye.com/?operations

you can simulate nearly every gameloop and check for profitability

also there is resource costs, like fuel food and ammo depending on the ships and gameloop

just take it as a warning dont go in blind, it can cost you

best to have a strategy beforehand

its complex and you compete against everyone else here

maybe also look for a #1298065003706060810 they have experts which can help you get started

[cold ledge]

feel free to ask any questions, never hesitate

also do not take any direct messages, scammers and impersonators watching

[cold rose]

Hello @cold ledge I’m Nate from** GMDx** (Gamer’s Mavericks Dao), and I saw the post about Zink on X,please is there a way I can get an access code for my community to join the event?

[cold ledge]

Welcome

https://discord.gg/pMapEFtF

join that discord

there is a channel where people share codes

[cold rose]

Thank you

[cold ledge]

also for star atlas you can get codes in #🔑┃game-access-key for the epic games launcher

[cold rose]

sure I will check it out

[cold ledge]

we have game nights every friday, also its worth to play anytime, you get xp for crewpacks and a resouce called ink which you can sell or use in the browsergame

also tournaments and so on

[cold rose]

are some of this quest connected with Zink

[cold ledge]

playing in ue5 gets you zink xp as well

forgot about that

its all connected

[cold rose]

wow that's cool, what is the minimum requirement specs for star atlas

[cold ledge]

a decent gpu like 1080 or better you might can go a bit lower

[cold rose]

Looks like we should host a game night on GMDx soon

[cold ledge]

#⛓️┃zink message more info for zink, also info in the other discord

[cold rose]

alright noted

[cold ledge]

feel free to reach out to our community director

there is also holosim

its in between seasons atm but you get zinkxp as well

free to play

https://holosim.staratlas.com

[cold rose]

I can't create a ticket

got response from a bot

[cold ledge]

dm @wispy widget

team is based in america, so probably asleep now

they will also answer in the ticket

[clear forge]

hi guys, I am going to try and play over UE5 for the first time. do we have a key map / tutorial for noobs? I tried the shooter yesterday and I was not even able to run😅 thanks

[cold rose]

done

[cold rose]

okay

[upper cipher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D6Rm-B87z0

[placid cypress]

Gooooood morning Zalians!

Galians

[cold ledge]

hi Zal

[random rapids]

This is Legit!
It’s Holosim airdrop

Where is our announcement @wispy widget ?

[cold ledge]

yeah i just got a heart attack

its holosim

bro i rang alarm bells and pinged 20 people

how you get 52?

[random rapids]

I have to be honest. I thought:
52 million.
They definitely made a mistake.
Option 1: I return 51 million.
Option 2: I run away with the 52 million.
I think everyone would have understood.

[cold ledge]

i saw a screen 5000 so i thought someone hacked the site

like what

[upper cipher]

Yeah, i thought vb just died tbh

I started praying immediately

[stoic cedar]

What is it, mine says i have $5,000,000

[cold ledge]

a typo

its 5

for holosim

when you claim you see it

[stoic cedar]

👍

[cold ledge]

we should tag that guy who asked every day

gadzik

[slim elm]

can you give us unli boost in racing so we can beat these scripts

[cold ledge]

i mean personally i like the idea, kill fire with fire, but i hope the team finds a solution soon

[upper cipher]

haha

I like it, i already got him today

soon as I noticed it, i tagged him

[upper cipher]

I feel this one bro

[slim elm]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[alpine ibex]

Hi team, I’m Aditya and I'm reaching out for co-marketing partnership on behalf of Cypherock.

Can someone direct me to the right person for this?

@dim bay @delicate light

[cold ledge]

please do not tag team members #✍┃rules

Welcome.

[cold ledge]

Thanks for reaching out and your interest in Star Atlas, however for partnership requests I'll invite you to contact the Star Atlas team by sending an email to [e-mail]
Have a nice day!

you also can #ticket

[pallid pine]

Is it possible to manually assign crew to a fleet? Each time I create new fleet it's created without assigned available crew members. Never had such issue before, it appeared yesterday evening and still persists 🙂

[cold ledge]

yeah im not aware

[pallid pine]

I see passanger section in UI, but that isn't the crew, so the ships won't fly anyway?

[cold ledge]

you can add it there

its a minimum required

you can fill up to max to transport crew

[pallid pine]

I see, adding the passengers add the crew as well. It worked, thanks 🙂

[cold ledge]

glad it worked, now get that xp 🙂

[mental relic]

Congratulations 😄

[late condor]

gm

[cold ledge]

user name ignored

[late condor]

@Bryan called me cancer

[cold ledge]

bro said he will grow up now with the kid and all

man

just ignore him

and change your name

thats depressing

[late condor]

he called me cancer & said I should get banned

[warm tulip]

Just but a Crab in your name

[cold ledge]

where?

[cold ledge]

here in discord?

[late condor]

on z.ink

[cold ledge]

wth

[proud shoal]

Been awhile since I locked any polis, but is there supposed to be like 15 transactions to approve with adding polis to my locker now?

[cold ledge]

is that ledger?, i think i saw someone before with that?

[proud shoal]

Yeah using a ledger, but I'm certain there weren't nearly this many last time I did this.

[cold ledge]

feel free to #ticket

[cold ledge]

make sure everything is up to date

[honest crane]

sola quint bot seemingly up and running

[wispy widget]

I think we just got it fixed

[lyric saddle]

You are not a cancer ser. You bring a high spirited aura to SA, it's appreciated

[gaunt panther]

Is Holosim broken? My game won't load. I'm trying to complete the Zink task. I had to start a new game to play it. But nothing is working.

[honest crane]

Quests broken. You won't be able to start a new account atm

I'm trying to open a crew pack, but after selecting the quantity to open, checking "transfer crew directly to sage" and clicking "open crew pack", the page refreshes to the crew packs main page. Can't get past that.
Note that i've never played SAGE, just created my account as requested at my first attempt to open the pack.

[cold ledge]

if you dont play sage dont import the crew there

[honest crane]

I've read you have to to get them in UE5

[cold ledge]

you can if they in your wallet

[honest crane]

just having them in the wallet is enough ?

[cold ledge]

yes

[honest crane]

lovely, thx

[wind urchin]

Hi I finally found this. But its expired. Shouldn't this code switch every week?

[cold ledge]

codes tied to all #🧨┃event-announcements

and just work temporary

join the events get a code

also local brews and such

https://discord.com/events/789226204980707409/1392499745481691257

the council tagup tonight should have one

[wind urchin]

I know that is majority tied to events. But I found this on the site. Or is this thing even from the first round of community week.

hmm ok this could be from the summer....

[cold ledge]

ah very old then community week is long over we do this now #🤖┃sola-qint-bot

daily check in -> #☀️┃daily-check-in

iris blessing campaign

[whole helm]

...

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-good-morning-plink-good-morning-plink-gm-gm-plink-gif-74387586846588263

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/waves-beach-nature-sea-ocean-gif-4729765651274269543

[heady shell]

Aloha bro

[cold ledge]

so you running for council thats nice 🙂

cant wait to hear your speech

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/iamproudofyou-my-hero-gif-4096505581688945369

[heady shell]

I know right

[cold ledge]

hehe nervous already?

[heady shell]

I hardly get nervous

[cold ledge]

thats good for council i guess

[heady shell]

I'm so used to talking to contractors and buyers for liquor

[fresh frost]

https://tenor.com/view/police-man-good-moaning-silly-shocked-gif-9001866

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-there-hey-cute-gif-13633791

[lavish tinsel]

@cold ledge I like the new Font

[cold ledge]

yeah saw people changing that, discord has a few choices now

a bit like old english

[fresh frost]

it's very 3rd reich

[cold ledge]

of course you would say that lol

i wanted to differ from swag and funcracker

[lavish tinsel]

Me I don't like change in my old age if my wife moves the furniture I'm confused for a week.

[fresh frost]

You are lucky man. My wife would make ME move the forniture

luckily my oversized sofa only fits one way in my living room 😅

[queen sparrow]

Why the map is still same 2 days

It should be track A

Today

[cold ledge]

i asked no answer yet

sorry about that

[whole helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1416104985523130511/1433407452061237269/image0.gif

did some1 spoke about UE5 update?

where is paper

[cold ledge]

not sure but zeskk showed a preview of project galia in the lorekeepers

there will be some cool updates this year

from what i heard

the tease is real

[whole helm]

but, but no update this week for UE5

[cold ledge]

maybe some fixes, not sure

[whole helm]

arrival in abandon house, looking for car because need to restaurant to get a code

[cold ledge]

you taking your wife to dinner?

[whole helm]

good idea, I need some tool and a wife.

[cold ledge]

hehe

[whole helm]

that how look video about Ustur planet and restaurant somewhere in space

script,,Zink

[mighty moth]

What should we do for this project?

[cold ledge]

you can do a lot of things here, welcome

[cold ledge]

You're now aboard the most ambitious sci-fi MMO in Web3. Here’s what you can dive into today:
Explore our Unreal Engine 5 shooter & racing modules ⁠ #🔑┃game-access-key just type /key to get a key
Earn in the fully on-chain browser-game economy (SAGE)
Shape the future through the Star Atlas DAO
Discover rich lore, factions, and a growing galaxy of creators
Just getting started? Try HoloSim, our Free-to-Play learning and test environment:
https://holosim.staratlas.com/
#❓┃star-atlas-game

we have events at the moment check #🤖┃sola-qint-bot

everything you do also counts towards the https://discord.gg/pMapEFtF

zink airdrop

in UE5 you also can earn ink (a resource) and crew packs

we have #🏆┃community-events

feel free to ask any questions, but never take any direct messages

scammers watching

[mighty moth]

thank you😍

[mighty moth]

Can you explain what I need to do for the game part?

[west slate]

for zink exp you need to do 2 things, first you need to open the zink profile (you will need a code for that)

second once thats done you will need to link your epic account to your zink profile, after that anything you do in the ue5 game that generates experence you should get zink exp(ue5)

[cold ledge]

for holosim the free browsergame https://aephia.com/star-atlas/holosim-guide/

for ue5 just join the arena matches and races

after downloading

#🔑┃game-access-key

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QTLC76jGYXok1e_OKYEoPOghCvjgg59TO0-R271dEKs/edit?tab=t.0 another good guide for jholosim

and a vid for the ue5 game in the epic games launcher https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D6Rm-B87z0

[west slate]

holosim is broken, can't do any quests means new players are not going to have a good time with it at all

[cold ledge]

i know

its reported multiple times

maybe best to start in ue5 then

[heady shell]

I know how you feel I never finished the whole quest but the only way I was doing it is going to different web browsers

[cold ledge]

yeah me neither i gave up

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/empire-i-got-you-brothers-lucious-terrence-howard-gif-4652933

[lavish tinsel]

I tried A few times and decided I would just buy a couple of crew packs and live off the adrenaline rush of opening them hoping for a Photili

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/xmen-marvel-mutants-gif-14994035

[late condor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/799478132993425429/1131331975475642368/SA_CHARACTER_SLOW.gif

[whole helm]

mod ??

[vital vortex]

@upper cipher do you have a image in god resolution abaut the expecialization of crews?

[vital vortex]

only the symbols, do you have?

[cold ledge]

thsi?

[vital vortex]

no, the symbol of the Engenier, Pilot, command.. etc etc..

[cold ledge]

i dont have these, must ask the team, or whoever did the art, maybe ask santi

[upper cipher]

Yeah i dont have the symbols art

sorry brotha

[vital vortex]

no problem, I only don't care re-drawing this 🙁

[cold ledge]

maybe screenshot it like that

then let it enhance by ai

[vital vortex]

it's possible

where do you obtain this?

[cold ledge]

crew page on the play site

[vital vortex]

wow.. perfect

[cold ledge]

then ask ai to enhance the symbol

[vital vortex]

cool 😄

[warm tulip]

Honestly I wouldn’t even mind these semi-women MUD crew compared to what we got

[late condor]

Well

I got u

and u must admit

u could've been worse

[warm tulip]

I can be 1000% worse

[late condor]

well u're my best legendary MUD crew so far xD

[queen sparrow]

epic is down we cant play any info guys ?

[upper cipher]

its not on our side

Epic Games is down entirely atm

[lyric saddle]

They were concept art

[magic sleet]

Damn I was just getting ready to play. 😢

[midnight bone]

Who can i reach out for a partnership

[torn crest]

What kind of partnership would that be?

[midnight bone]

Project partnerships

[torn crest]

Obviously, but it helps me navigate you to the right source if you could tell me what its about.
Otherwise best write to [e-mail]

[midnight bone]

Here is general chat

I just wanted the both project to collaborate with each other and share their ideas with each community

[low loom]

Hello all!

[late condor]

My u're truly indestructible

[tranquil escarp]

👀

[crystal acorn]

@torn crest ☝️

[carmine cradle]

my profile on play(.)staratlas keep showing this. is this a bug?

[cold ledge]

could have various reasons, try clear the cache or do a hard refresh (ctrl+f5)

feel free to #ticket

do not take any direct messages

[carmine cradle]

please check my ticket

[placid knot]

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@valvphoenix rank: #60

Nov 2, 2025, 4:47 AM

[cold ledge]

gm val

[placid cypress]

Gm my friend. Lazy Sunday today? But farming never sleeps

[cold ledge]

woke up super early somehow 🙂 but yeah lazy sounds good 🙂

have a nice sunday

[placid cypress]

You too friend. I'm on a different time zone than usual, so for me it's daytime! Have a good one 💪

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/soul-hackers-shin-megami-tensei-spooky-spookysweep-hacking-gif-26684704

[random rapids]

Gm Galia 👋❤️

[torn crest]

GM captain fluff!

[upper cipher]

Torinder is a person too

lol

have we just replaced him with C. Fluff?

[torn crest]

I dont see a torinder on the pfp

[upper cipher]

Spitting the truth, he gave himself to C.Fluff. RIP Torinder

[topaz pine]

Lol gm

[random rapids]

Hahahahahahha 🚀🚀🚀

[random rapids]

It could almost become my profile picture on ZINK.

[cold ledge]

i didnt get the right style yet

[upper cipher]

vb says give him times, he's cookin

[random rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-wait-patiently-oh-i-will-wait-oh-yes-i-will-man-pulling-out-camp-chair-to-wait-gif-18210748690125729645

[cold ledge]

it needs to be a little darker and pixelated

like the first one was to pixelated

i try later

[upper cipher]

looks like a couch pillow

[cold ledge]

dont mess with captain fluff

[upper cipher]

oh I wont, I understand his power

but if he's a pillow, ima use it

just saying

[whole helm]

scary

[random rapids]

Look at this terrifying power

[cold ledge]

@atomic bramble whats for lunch?

[upper cipher]

Surprising how strong it is lol

I bet he got whatever he want right after you found him like that

[upper cipher]

I might use this as my profile picture, looks badass

[whole helm]

should made PiP and blame ATMTA to put AI-photo editor for DAO members.

Let inspiration do the job.

[cold ledge]

photoshop subscription is to expensive

[whole helm]

visual studio is always interesting just like photoshop editor it´s all about coding

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-im-simply-the-best-gif-19414249

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/day-of-the-dead-dia-de-los-muertos-celebrating-the-deceased-mexican-day-of-the-dead-tenor-gif-193253351916965427

https://tenor.com/view/dia-de-muertos-dia-de-los-muertos-gif-16298986218499387708

[upper cipher]

That's like 6 months away bro

lol

[solemn creek]

Can’t write in holosim dc channel.

Some updates about this issues actually. Try to start Holosim yesterday to grind my point for zink but nothing works.

[cold ledge]

check top left channels and roles and add the channel

feel free to #ticket

[heady shell]

Today is day of the dead

Festival party in mexicali I would like to go five hour drive from here

[upper cipher]

ah nice, i didnt know of one this late in the year, shows how cultured i am

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/counter-strike-source-listening-waiting-gif-25517636

[stable maple]

Good morning, anyone else receiving this scam in their inventory?

[upper cipher]

That's not a scam, the 5m is a typo. Those are holosim rewards

[stable maple]

really?

[upper cipher]

Yep

the .02 should have already came as well, did for everyone. (Well most)

[random rapids]

Yep. It’s not a scam. It’s legit ❤️

@tall lava @wispy widget @hazy hedge but yes comunity still waiting an announcement, because many players think that a scam

[stable maple]

Thank you

[warm tulip]

Now I see how we sold a titan for $5

[cold ledge]

first i thought its a scam and pinged everyone i know

on second thought its the same guy doing this to us

the 5 dullar titan guys revenge

[warm tulip]

Everyone can buy a titan now!

[noble ice]

@serene walrus - hey man, I don't know if its intentional, or not, thanks for the tip 😁

[limpid isle]

I didn't play Holosim, where's my money?

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-egg-crack-gif-17965500839898910502

[polar merlin]

Wow infrastructure contracts gone in like a day, Sage has lost its draw if wales can take up everything so fast.

yeah they only release a set amount of them all till there all sold then the restock. But seems that before you can transfer them from you starbase to where they buying them they have bought up the limit for that contract. no well have to wait around 4 months for the infrastructure contracts to replenish. Because the others arent worth the work.

[cold ledge]

thats a good question for #📊┃economics

[cold ledge]

also recommend the https://discord.com/events/789226204980707409/1380332583874854912

[pallid pine]

@wispy widget I have good news and bad news about Zink project. Let me start with the bad ones, but first a little disclaimer. I’m not just a random person talking about games. I work in game development industry starting from 2002 and have experience both working in large teams and alone, as solo indie developer. Took part in large and famous projects like Heroes of Might and Magic 5, as well as released two small games made by myself. I know how gamedev works, and what mistakes can lead to a project’s failure.

So, bad news about the Zink project. Let’s look at the metrics:
• Twitter – about 5k followers.
• Dashboard – 1.7k users, more than a half with 0 XP – i.e. not participating.

You might say that it’s just a closed alpha. But it’s not quite so – each user can give away 5 keys, so the test season is tuned in a way that in case of real hype the number of users would spread like a wildfire.

I know from my own experience if a project didn’t hype in day 1, then it will hype never. Zink was supposed to attract teams that would build their own games on the platform, but what team would use it with such metrics? Zink was supposed to be a low fee L1, but how are you going to achieve that with so few users?

It’s as clear as day light – Zink project has failed and needs to be cancelled as soon as possible to avoid wasting more time and money.

And now to the good news. Star Atlas is not on Zink and not quite associated with it yet. You can still end the test season and cancel Zink project without loosing money and reputation (more importantly without any negative effect to Star Atlas). Just airdrop some noticeable Star Atlas rewards to those, who participated and paid for subscriptions, and you won’t get any haters in return.

Now is the perfect time to rebrand Star Atlas and start moving it in the right direction. I came up with few steps that you can make in order to do so:
1. Stay on Solana (can’t believe I really said that, but currently there is no other option).
2. Realize that Star Atlas has just one USP (unique selling point) - Crypto Star Citizen. The game needs to be presented as the killer of Star Citizen with Mass Effect 2 vibes, and eventually become it.
3. Cancel C4, redirect all you time to UE5 client of the game.
4. Make two branches of Star Atlas - one without any crypto features and a copy of it with them. The first one is to be released on Steam, and another one is to be released on Epic Games Store.
5. Make a demo of the game with small storyline and multiplayer modes in final quality.
6. Make a cool cinematic trailer with Mass Effect 2 vibes, but keep it secret until the step 8.
7. Prepare Steam page, upload the demo.
8. Announce the game, and announce its participation in Steam Next Fest.
9. Participate in Steam Next fest and support this activity with streams of the game.
10. Get your 20k+ wishlists and build on that foundation. Parallelly, develop the crypto variant of the game that is going to be distributed on the Epic Games Store.

I’m afraid that in case of any other scenario Star Atlas is going to remain an unknown web strategy with less than 1k active players forever.

[honest crane]

🧐

[cold ledge]

I wait for santi, but i find some points you made here , just wrong and even outrageous...

[honest crane]

i'd say 'random'

[cold ledge]

strong tobacco for a sunday evening

i dont want to get in a bad mood

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-romantic-ageru-yo-dragonball-ending-i'll-give-you-romance-gif-1272501529718349398

[cold ledge]

might and magic 5 was super bad i still play 3

[whole helm]

so this year we not gone watch Golden-Carnival ?

[honest crane]

same here, playing it at this very moment

[cold ledge]

i just started a rimworld session want to build a spaceship 🙂

[honest crane]

hmmm never tried this one

[cold ledge]

top5 of my all time easily

and i play for 35y+ 🙂

[honest crane]

have to look into it then

[whole helm]

this also can run till April, what would C4 bring ?

[cold ledge]

i dont get it sorry?

[whole helm]

you gave as only small ships in ticket show, what is the sine here, there ?

[cobalt pulsar]

do u know this person Karen ohuseynov1

[cold ledge]

you mean iris blessing? #💰┃prizes-and-info

[cold ledge]

you got a dm?

scammer

report and block

dont take any direct messages

[cobalt pulsar]

I knew he asking friends and some discord link to make some tickets

[cold ledge]

@thorny thunder

[cold ledge]

banned, thx for the report

[cobalt pulsar]

I took picture but can't send

[cold ledge]

all good i found him

you also can report directly to discord the 3 little dots

[cobalt pulsar]

ok thanks

[cold ledge]

thank you!

[cobalt pulsar]

u welcome

[whole helm]

I was just checking in on the larger prize event we discussed earlier. I understand things can shift, and I'm not trying to cause any trouble, but I wanted to see if there were any updates on that one, as I was looking forward to it.

[cold ledge]

i dont understand the grenadeer what you mean by that?

[whole helm]

I put ship on because is Large class and whit position on price whit words and question how long would that last? and would C4 bring some bp from ships bigger class. ?

[cold ledge]

bro i need shaddix, that sounds so cryptic i really dont get it @torn crest

[whole helm]

alter

[cold ledge]

oder auf deutsch ja

kein plan was du willst lol

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-zinc-simpsons-zinc-come-back-zinc-zinc-simpsons-gif-12812408614222025621

[pallid pine]

For now I just hope that developers will read the feedback and respond with their thoughts. I posted it here instead of making it privately in case if community also have some thoughts about that. I remember at least one user who also mentioned that Star Atlas was supposed to be the Star Citizen in crypto world. Zink and C4 definitely won't going to help to achieve that with the numbers we all see. In any case, I still believe in the Star Atlas project, and I will be here to remind my feedback once it will be obvious to everyone that Zink has failed and C4 is a step in wrong direction 🙂

[cold ledge]

yeah, to make it short, im very tired and not able to give you exact feedback on each of your accusations or ideas, will try in the morning, you here for a year now, i expected you to know all the history and details of this project and maybe even listen to some brews or townhalls. Not sure how you came up with this to be honest.

zink is like 3 days old

just as point number 1

[vital vortex]

I work... but there are cool 😄

[dark seal]

Yeah lmao

[fresh frost]

I feel you have no idea what you are talking about.

to start is the wrong chat and the wrong person

[wicked coyote]

Yea seems kind of harsh to throw the baby out with the bath water so quickly. (ps I'm not a huge fan of zink myself so not a rose colored koolaid drinking opinion either) Unless you believe in the iterate until death maybe one will stick methodology. I would agree though they do have a lot in the oven.. but sounds like they feel they can deliver so let them cook?

[pallid pine]

I've just noticed there is a feedback section 🙂 So many sections and sometimes I lose the one with support tickets. You are right I better post it there.

[west slate]

the catch is the foundation for zink was being done for really most of the project as its effectively a public version of their internal test platform (something that exists effectively because it has to) so its not like a lot of extra resources are being thrown in, in addition to that zink is going to be rather seamless for the end user as its going to be used for c4 and the act of depositing assets into the game will get zink to be used, the profile system was something the team was doing from very early on as well so end of the day the only thing new here is the scale, this is just to give us a head start on the token distribution for the network fees

also note that all those fees will be able to be paid in atlas for people that don't want to hold zink

[wicked coyote]

I mean you'll probably need/want them to have you bridge your assets from Solana to Zink..

[fresh frost]

this is a simple AI answer without adding context:

The Critical Context They're Missing
This person is fundamentally misunderstanding the project timeline. z.ink was announced in August 2025 and is scheduled for mainnet genesis in December 2025 Aephia Industries. What they're judging is a closed alpha testing phase (a.lpha), not a public launch.
Their Metrics Critique is Premature

"Only 1.7k dashboard users" - This is a closed test with invite codes. Users need access codes to participate in the a.lpha test X. Judging adoption during a gated testing phase is like criticizing a restaurant for having few customers during staff training before opening day.
"If it didn't hype on day 1, it never will" - This ISN'T day 1. The airdrop campaign is planned to run from September to December with at least 4 seasons over 2 years Aephia Industries. The mainnet hasn't even launched yet.
"No real hype" - After the first announcement, z.ink quickly grew to over 100,000 users CoinGape during testnet, which suggests solid interest for a pre-launch phase.

Fundamental Misunderstanding of Architecture
"How achieve low fees with few users?" - This shows a critical misunderstanding. z.ink will have 99% lower fees than Solana at launch Aephia Industries because of its network architecture and smaller validator set, not because of user count. The low fees are why they built it - deploying C4 on Solana would have cost ATMTA around $40k, while on z.ink it will be essentially free Aephia Industries.
The "Cancel and Rebrand" Suggestions Are Misguided

Stay on Solana - They are staying on Solana for Starbases. SAGE Starbases will continue to run on Solana, but SAGE C4 will run on z.ink from day 1 Aephia Industries. This isn't an either/or situation.
"Cancel C4" - The team is moving all game logic to z.ink during upcoming releases, with C4 running on z.ink from launch Aephia Industries. This has been in development for years.
Steam/Epic split - Star Atlas is already on Epic Games Store with UE5 client. Their crypto integration strategy is more sophisticated than this person understands.

The Real Issue
This person is applying traditional game development wisdom to a blockchain project in pre-launch testing phase. Their 20+ years of game dev experience doesn't necessarily translate to understanding:

Blockchain infrastructure development cycles
Airdrop campaign strategies
L1 economics and validator networks
How crypto projects build communities before mainnet

They're judging a project that hasn't launched yet as if it failed at launch. It's premature, misinformed, and ignores the strategic reasons z.ink exists.

[pallid pine]

...or not. There is no Zink subsection there, and my thoughts are not just about UE5 client or Sage, it's about everything. Better keep the feedback here then.

[wicked coyote]

I think the AI has the lows fees wrong. It'll be low because zink won't be worth around $200 at launch..

If it was it'd be the same fees as Solana. The closer zinks valuations approaches solanas the more the fees will align because they are keeping the same lamport configurations (atleast they said they were). The other fee reduction is how data and accounts will be handled (but you still will need to pay rent to have data on chain)

[pallid pine]

Please 🙂 Using AI for such things won't do any good 🙂

[fresh frost]

we can't compare the traffic of Solana with what we will have in C4 at launch. Eventually I hope that becomes a problem

[whole helm]

how much for Z.ink ?

[wicked coyote]

It's not traffic related

It's how much it costs you per token

[fresh frost]

I just wanted to show you how even a simple AI prompt without context can debunk many of your points

You are free to give feedback. It just comes out missinformed, entitled and mostly wrong. I'm just a community member tho

[west slate]

the reason we can't get our sol fees under control is because atmta / the sa dao etc don't have enough control over sol validators, with zink we have low fees because we control the core validators, we control the adding of validatiors on top of the fact that the token is going to launch with a value much lower then sol, also if zink blows up in value the core holders will be directly connected with sa meaning we have the means to keep fees low, what this means for other projects on the platform is that if zink blows up its now the same issue that they have with mainet anyways however with the fact that zink and sol are running the same arcitecture and therefore things like the profile should work on both zink and sol other developers have the ability to more easily move their projects should they need to

[pallid pine]

The reply has mistakes. For example it's talking about closed test not considering the absence of NDA and key limitations. When all the details are available to public, when each "close test" user can share 5 more keys, it's not a closed test. You can call it softlaunch at best, but more like an official release.

[fresh frost]

Plus the L1 adds a legitimate business model (directly related to Solana) that is sustainable and not based on speculation or the sell of NFTs

[wicked coyote]

It still boils down to the fact that zink won't be valued like sol. But the centralized control you described here doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies.

[fresh frost]

it's a pre-alpha community

it doesn't matter f we get 200 codes

[wicked coyote]

I mean people have to use it... just ask Gala how their chain is doing

[fresh frost]

we are the playtesters and there is not a lot of us. Mostly because the game is not ready

[west slate]

right because if it gets properly decentralized we won't have the control, still worst case is we end up back where we are now should everything go as intended

[fresh frost]

What about you take into considerations the parts of the answer that are right?

[west slate]

meaning worst case its a stop gap

[pallid pine]

Well, not exactly, it's just a very small community - the game has no any other. And users can share keys to anyone and publish all details online. It's not a closed test.

[west slate]

still idealy by the time zink gets so huge that its a problem the tech will have advanced to the point where its a non issue for new projects

going to be honest sa is just now moving beyond proof of concept

honestly looking at early day holosim season 1 chapter 1 (also zink related) the numbers were about the same as they are now with acitve users

also note zink is kinda an anti alt thing as well

the other aspect is anyone truly new is not going to be getting exp untill they get set up in star atlas itself as all the exp is directly from holding sa assets and staking etc

also there is no reason to play holosim on its own right now

[fresh frost]

Here are non AI answers to your points in bold:

I work in game development industry starting from 2002 and have experience both working in large teams and alone, as solo indie developer. Took part in large and famous projects like Heroes of Might and Magic 5, as well as released two small games made by myself. I know how gamedev works, and what mistakes can lead to a project’s failure.

any AAA game experience. What about creating new Web3 technology from the grounf up on a brand new blockchain?

So, bad news about the Zink project. Let’s look at the metrics:
• Twitter – about 5k followers.
• Dashboard – 1.7k users, more than a half with 0 XP – i.e. not participating.

This is not feedback, just a random observation not taking into account the current environment and development stage

You might say that it’s just a closed alpha. But it’s not quite so – each user can give away 5 keys, so the test season is tuned in a way that in case of real hype the number of users would spread like a wildfire.

Still a closed alpha, you can hype all you want, but that's not how it works as it's not a meme token community

I know from my own experience if a project didn’t hype in day 1, then it will hype never. Zink was supposed to attract teams that would build their own games on the platform, but what team would use it with such metrics? Zink was supposed to be a low fee L1, but how are you going to achieve that with so few users?

Same memecoin project approached that is not relevant to a AAA game in pre-alpha

It’s as clear as day light – Zink project has failed and needs to be cancelled as soon as possible to avoid wasting more time and money.

Completely wrong approach to kill something on the first test without launching, and I feel you are missing all the reasons why this is a good move

And now to the good news. Star Atlas is not on Zink and not quite associated with it yet. You can still end the test season and cancel Zink project without loosing money and reputation (more importantly without any negative effect to Star Atlas). Just airdrop some noticeable Star Atlas rewards to those, who participated and paid for subscriptions, and you won’t get any haters in return.

Now is the perfect time to rebrand Star Atlas and start moving it in the right direction. I came up with few steps that you can make in order to do so:

This is what sounds entitled

Stay on Solana (can’t believe I really said that, but currently there is no other option).
Realize that Star Atlas has just one USP (unique selling point) - Crypto Star Citizen. The game needs to be presented as the killer of Star Citizen with Mass Effect 2 vibes, and eventually become it.

missing thoe same points, and not fully understanding how a Solana fork will help and still keep the project tied to Solana

Cancel C4, redirect all you time to UE5 client of the game.

You don't understand the timeline and evolution of the game and how they will integrate in the future

Make two branches of Star Atlas - one without any crypto features and a copy of it with them.

You are describing a version of Holosim

The first one is to be released on Steam, and another one is to be released on Epic Games Store.
Make a demo of the game with small storyline and multiplayer modes in final quality.

Again, Holosim

Make a cool cinematic trailer with Mass Effect 2 vibes, but keep it secret until the step 8.

already done all the time

Prepare Steam page, upload the demo.

Web3 dude

Announce the game, and announce its participation in Steam Next Fest.

there is no game yet. And it will be a Web3 game

Participate in Steam Next fest and support this activity with streams of the game.
Get your 20k+ wishlists and build on that foundation. Parallelly, develop the crypto variant of the game that is going to be distributed on the Epic Games Store.

[steel thunder]

lol everyone is fighting over Zink and they haven’t realized that this is the end of Star atlas 🤣🤣
It’s just another coin people will dump for USD when they have the chance to make a profit

[fresh frost]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-spongebob-sbso-sbsp-wacky-gif-10150404673915756358

[fresh frost]

Do you know how many times we have heard that since 2021?

[steel thunder]

I’ve been eyeing this project for a while and all I can say is there’s to much talk about what it could be but there’s always something that’s bleeding away money

[fresh frost]

well your profile is 3 months old

[steel thunder]

A 10k ship is now worth 700 bucks 🤣

[fresh frost]

you are just another random profile here

[cold ledge]

man you know how often people came here and told us this is the end? probably not

[steel thunder]

How is that progress

[fresh frost]

the good news is that no one is forcing you to play

is up to you if you want to be involved in a web3 game in pre-alpha

[steel thunder]

It looks like all of you have drunk a little to much scam aid

https://tenor.com/view/teehee-funny-snoopy-cute-fun-gif-6236854856469910924

[cold ledge]

how is the fudaid?

[fresh frost]

You can be sober anywhere and yet you are here

sounds like you are an alt tbh

3 month old account

[cold ledge]

or someone banned before

reveal yourself lol

[steel thunder]

Yes because I’m enjoying all of you discussing a nonsense and money being literally used to keep a fire going

[fresh frost]

so just a little random troll. Cute

https://tenor.com/view/bridgerton-period-drama-golda-rosheuvel-queen-charlotte-go-away-gif-19716443

[cold ledge]

what did you do, it was a nice weekend, where they coming from all of a sudden?

[steel thunder]

Radom no I already lost 10 k on this project 🤣

[cold ledge]

in 3 months

thats a record

[west slate]

I honestly don't understand how zink is "burning away moeny" as is all built on stuff that was already existing or planned for the project

[fresh frost]

the whole game has literally beeing developed in zink

it's just a new name for Atlasnet

[dark seal]

What the hell is going on in here

[steel thunder]

It’s a new coin that they’re launching and will eventually be used to sell for funding the project that can’t even keep the show going

🤨

[cold ledge]

someone opened the floodgates, its always like that, one guy starts then they come from under the rocks

[dark seal]

My brother in Christ we need this so we can afford txns to play the game

[west slate]

the project does not exactly need it, and the ability to sell the coin is not why they are doing this its just a side effect of the fact that what they are doing is actually needed

sunday is fudday apparently

[steel thunder]

On a game that’s worthless ?

[fresh frost]

You won't believe this... someone lost money in crypto

[dark seal]

What makes it worthless? You bought tokens and lost 10k so it’s a worthless game?

[steel thunder]

I bought nfts that can’t even hold there value and you can’t really make a solid return without burning all your profits away and Zink is not the solution

[dark seal]

I would respond to that giant message but I find it very retarded and low knowledge about what’s even happening here

[dark seal]

Skill issue I’m making solid gains even at todays prices

[steel thunder]

But all of you can keep discussing about 💩 I’ll just keep observing until it hits zero

[cold ledge]

tell us your ships and we show you how to play

[dark seal]

This isn’t socialism winning is promised

[cold ledge]

10k loss sounds like you have a huge fleet

[fresh frost]

I did

[cold ledge]

i just wanted to move to the couch...

[dark seal]

Solana txns take a lot of any gains we can make and over the last few years we lost countless players because they had one or two or very very ships and couldn’t earn in sage and didn’t want to wait for full ue5 game. Eliminating txn costs is huge and makes anyone profitable

[dark seal]

I’ll scroll up

[cold ledge]

i tag the @tall lava he has to do an exorzism

[dark seal]

Damn @fresh frost I’m happy for you or I’m sorry

But I can’t read all that 😂

[fresh frost]

I just typed the bolds

[dark seal]

I can do the bolds

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/pov-when-i-use-my-gif-14461746090134077084

[pallid pine]

Missing the same points, and not fully understanding how a Solana fork will help and still keep the project tied to Solana -> Steam version generates hype around the project but lacks web3 features. Epic Games version is tied to Solana and provides web3 features, but unable to generate that many hype.

You don't understand the timeline and evolution of the game and how they will integrate in the future -> I know that both Sage and Holosim have bad reputation among a lot of players, but when you describe them UE5 client their eyes become to shine.

You are describing a version of Holosim -> Holosim isn't going anywhere, it's a released product. How many daily active players does it have? Anything less than 20k is a failed project.

Already done all the time -> What they've shown on the recent Brew is just a prototype and not a priority project, unfortunately.

[fresh frost]

• I don't think you understand what "native crypto" means.
• Bad reputation is a verey limited view of a test phase, but that's your perception, that's ok. For a development point of view I still think you don't get the current stage of the project
• Holsim is a parallel product in early test phases to open the doors to players not interested in investing in game assets. It's glitchy and buggy. But it is not supposed to be a finished product and has a lot to evolve. Again, it's all about understanding the timeline and the Season structure that we will have at some point in Beta, likely at least a year or two from now.
• I have no idea what you saw tbh.

[chilly torrent]

my friend sage and holosim is a part of UE5 product, like pet battles in WOW (a small part of big game). The only reason we play it - is because some of us like it (its niche strategy game but i personally have fun playing it) and because we are waiting for real game (UE5 MMORPG in space).
There 3 billiard gamers in the world. Some of them dont like sage because its hard to understand or because of its lags, but it doesnt affect project overall. If (when) team release final version of the game - that's when it will be time to discuss everything you are saying right now.

[fresh frost]

Are you aware of the eight seasons of game development timeline that occur once we reach the beta stage?

Have you read the whitepaper? Do you understand what entails having a live economy and how that's incompatible with Steam?

Feedback is good, but it comes across as arrogant to me. Telling a development team to change their plans and telling them they are entirely wrong and the game should be two different games, you just pulled out of your ass, having such a limited understanding of what's going on is why you are getting so much pushback IMHO

Imagine a random Discord user telling you that your indie games were a failure and that you should do something completely different. Like he just discovered hot water

[pallid pine]

Overprotracted development is very infamous among the players, they don't like to wait forever and they won't pay attention how much seasons have passed what do developers call the current stage.

[fresh frost]

that doesn't change the development process of a web3 AAA game

IT's never been done before

the whole technology is being developed along with the game

[pallid pine]

That's why I think that game needs to be more like Star Citizen, and less like Sage 🙂

[steady helm]

Developing a failed indie game gives you almost as much credibility as me who is an expert for having just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

[fresh frost]

SAGE is a web browser apendix of the game. All those loops will be in UE5

[pallid pine]

Well, players need results, or they just walk away.

[fresh frost]

You will be able to go from 1st person to fleet view

[fresh frost]

they can walk away

there is no game yet

there are tests, pre-alpha modules in early development

That's why there is 0 marketing for SA

[pallid pine]

I know how it's planned to be currently. I just doubt this is a good idea, and I think that design should be changed accordingly.

[fresh frost]

It's a valid PoV. I think it's incredibly arrogant and entitled to assume you see a whole world the development team is missing in its entirety. You are free to agree or not with the timeline. But that's the road they have right now and nothing in your experience suggests you know better to me

[pallid pine]

That can't last forever. How many years have passed, and how much more is required?

[fresh frost]

For an AAA game, you should know 4 years is nothing, especially if you need to develop all the blockchain technology on the back end from scratch, without anyone ever having done it before.

When SA and Solana started the partnership Solana was less than a year old in Beta

Before Solana this was simply impossible

You seem to have a Web 2 approach and miss the web3 potential and challenge at hand

I'm enjoying the talk. Please don't feel attacked btw

[west slate]

for a project of this scale 20-30 years is honestly not much to get to a point of semi feature complete

those of us here are here to build a future we might not see

I knew this before I spent a single cent here

[pallid pine]

I'm not expecting Star Atlas to be AAA, but I was hoping for something with Mass Effect 2 quality 🙂 I think that creating web2 game and then adding optional web3 features to it would be a better strategy.

[fresh frost]

Mass Effect is AAA

btw I'm a huge fan of ME

[west slate]

thats not what were doing, you want something thats just another game

[fresh frost]

yeah but that's not this project

[pallid pine]

No, it's not 🙂

[fresh frost]

ok SA will be AAA

[west slate]

mass effect was aaa when it was released

[fresh frost]

of course it was

[west slate]

sa is still building out basic infrastructure that is needed for the real development to start

note most of the real heavy lifting is done and were getting closer to the point where the true development can finaly start to go beyond concept

[pallid pine]

Debatable 🙂

[west slate]

the fact that your going there shows you don't know as much about the industry as you think you do

[fresh frost]

I get the same feeling

It was the most amazing graphics in Xbox360

It was a flag in the golden age of gaming

[pallid pine]

It's not just a game with high budget and rich publisher. Production quality means a lot. Just compare initial version of The Last of Us with Mass Effect 2. Just few years difference of releases, so they can be compared. The Last of Us is definitely AAA, Mass Effect 2 - I don't think so.

[fresh frost]

AAA: high-budget high-profile video games developed by major publishers

You are creating your own rules. But it’s just a distraction to the points about SA

[pallid pine]

I don't like this definition - it doesn't count production quality 🙂

[fresh frost]

I don’t care what you like. It’s a fact

But we are deviating from the points. If we are done I’m happy to move on to spamming other chats CB

[pallid pine]

Well, someone made this definition, and I don't agree with them.

[fresh frost]

You are free to like some AAA more than others, that doesn’t make Mass Effect an Indie game

[pallid pine]

I didn't tell it's an indie game. There are more grades than AAA and indie 🙂

[cold ledge]

I remember brew he told me he is a dev for starfield he fudded so hard here for months, we still here, starfield was a mess

[fresh frost]

No, Mass is a major AAA (triple-A) franchise developed by the large studio BioWare and published by Electronic Arts (EA), a significant publisher that provides extensive financial and technical support.
Why Mass Effect is not an indie game:
Publisher Support: Indie games are defined by a lack of financial and technical support from major publishers. Mass Effect was published by Electronic Arts, a large publisher that handled marketing and distribution, contrasting with the self-funded nature of indie projects.
Developer Size: While BioWare started with a smaller team for the first game, it became a well-established studio that operated on a much larger scale, especially after its acquisition by EA.
Budget and Scope: The Mass Effect series features high production values, extensive graphical enhancements, complex gameplay mechanics, and vast worlds, all requiring significant budgets well beyond typical indie game capabilities.
AAA Characteristics: The series embodies the characteristics of a AAA game: large budgets, extensive marketing campaigns, a large development team, and broad commercial distribution, as seen with the Mass Effect Legendary Edition.
In summary: The terms "indie" and "AAA" refer to the scale of development and publishing, and Mass Effect's large publisher, significant budget, and widespread release place it firmly in the AAA category, not indie.

[near oriole]

Sounds like you might enjoy moving over to the Eve Frontiers community, friend.

[cold ledge]

did you play phase 3?

i totally missed it, i wanted, but no time really

[pallid pine]

No way, I tried that EVE Frontier and it's terrible 🙂

[fresh frost]

anyway. Bored now

[fresh frost]

do you like any web3 game?

[cold ledge]

i cant even read anymore, im just tired lol

[west slate]

is epic still down

[fresh frost]

That’s an epic fail

[late condor]

If it makes u happy - I still play HoMM5 today

[pallid pine]

For now I like only the concept of what UE5 client of Star Atlas can become. I've tried several web3 games, but they've all failed eventually. Currently I know nothing except Star Atlas that could potentially interest me in web3.

[fresh frost]

Oh well I’m out. That was a waste of time

“I don’t like web3 games. Let me tell you how you should do yours” 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/table-flip-flipping-the-table-freaking-out-pissed-angry-gif-5555937

[pallid pine]

I'm not. I was so tired of it back than. I was working in QA department with all those crunches 🙂

[pallid pine]

The entire web3 game development is in the uncharted waters, so we take part with our suggestions if we have any 🙂

[crude surge]

You are lost

[brazen scaffold]

How's everything friends? What's the drama about today?

[pallid pine]

My feedback about Zink provoked large discussion 🙂

[brazen scaffold]

Can u summarize the discussion? Im to lazy to read lol

[pallid pine]

In short - I think that test season is not a closed test, and it showed very bad results. I suggest to cancel Zink project and concentrate on UE5 client.

[brazen scaffold]

Is this related to why the polis price is in the toilet today?

Doesn't z link help with transaction fees?

[west slate]

your showing that you have 0 understanding of the development cycle

[pallid pine]

Do you think that many people are reading this chat? 🙂

[brazen scaffold]

Lol I dunno

[placid trail]

I need code for....

[cold ledge]

https://discord.gg/pMapEFtF

[cold ledge]

you know at some point you should just play a game you want to play and not complain about us here, thx

[cold ledge]

somebody sold, if you read the right channels you would know.

[west slate]

going to be honest, right now lower price of polis helps get smaller people into goverance we actually need that

also whales that don't believe in the project exiting is not exactly a bad thing ether especially when they remove their ability to influence governance

[pallid pine]

I'm not complaining, just providing my feedback 🙂 Yes, I've noticed there is a feedback section, but it doesn't have Zink subsection, and my feedback was not just about Zink. So I think General section is the only place for it currently.

[cold ledge]

We’re in test season, not a trailer drop. Next up: Origins + C4 on Z.ink, 10% supply to users, fees near zero. Ship feedback, not FUD. 💚

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/pov-when-i-use-my-gif-14461746090134077084

[west slate]

zink has its own discord and section in this discord

honestly this convo should be in ether of those places

[cold ledge]

Cool that you’ve shipped games. We’re building a permissionless L1 + C4. If you can level it up, apply: [e-mail]
.

[west slate]

yep this is a chance to test and to get a bit of exp to get a head start on zink profile level (that also gives a head start on the airdrop)

note that the primary benefits here are for new users and those with smaller wallets

[crude surge]

Who sold?

[west slate]

also sol is primarily a defi platform and while it is building out to help accommodate gaming its not the primary function of the network nor will it ever be, also the fact that validators are running on lower end hardware limits the extent that they can quickly upscale to resolve issues that then don't resolve because the upscale just brings more traffic

by swapping to a new layer one that is almost identical to sol but optimized for the needs of star atlas (that makes the platform itself more optimized to other game developers) means that when its ready any game that is being choked out by sol can simply just move to zink, this creates a lot of utility for us and the greater sol ecosystem

[cold ledge]

check fr chat

[west slate]

ok, honestly saw that one coming

also glad he waited for it to be this low to sell, he has been good to the project

also selling when it actually helps people get in on an airdrop, got to respect that

[fresh frost]

well he just realized his losses at more than $400 K, probably right before an Alt market at the end of the month

So he probably needed to invest it somewhere else

[west slate]

yes but he has always done selling in ways that help break up assets insted of consolidate them

[fresh frost]

he should be able to make it up during the next couple of months before the market go south

Fun fact: This was the worst October in BTC history

[west slate]

yeah, he knows what he is doing

[west slate]

I mean the usa gov meltdown had a lot to do with that, november is going to be a wild ride

[fresh frost]

what meltdown?

I don't think it has happened yet

2026 smells like one

[west slate]

the fact that its shut down and food insecurity is at an all time high

[fresh frost]

oh, no. That's just America

[west slate]

exactly

[fresh frost]

That's the new normal

we will see something ugly that's been pending since 2020

[west slate]

well yeah, however the lack of social services moving forward forced big players to move assets around a lot over oct

longer

[fresh frost]

and it may make the crypto winter a lot nicer

[west slate]

its been building up a lot longer then 5 years ago, I have been preparing for this for decades now

[fresh frost]

yes, but I was expecting it during 2020 and then covid happened

and the USA government has been manipulating all it can to hide it and delay it

[west slate]

yep and that just makes the fall a lot worse

or better depending on what side of the fence your on

[fresh frost]

I think it will be ugly, and will spread like cancer.

"Make the world struggle again"

lucily for the rest of the world Trump happened, so they have moved on from relying 100% on this shitty economy

[west slate]

yep but those outside the usa have other economies to help prop them up

[fresh frost]

it will fuck everything up no matter what

[west slate]

oh ofc but it also creates opertunities

[fresh frost]

but we have hope in cryptoi

[west slate]

out of order comes chaos then out of the chaos new order

[fresh frost]

but we will never be part of the VIP club

[west slate]

oh its possible we will be

[fresh frost]

that's very naive

they never lose

[west slate]

not exactly, were at the cutting edge of new economic development

[fresh frost]

meh

[west slate]

we won't be able to neccearily replace them but we can get closer to them

[fresh frost]

the same people will thrive

who is buying all the BTC these days?

https://tenor.com/view/we-aren't-in-it-politicians-rich-people-big-club-you-ain't-in-it-gif-17192602913015568897

[west slate]

the smart ones will survive

[fresh frost]

the smart one will keep grinding and collecting crumbles

We will be happy with our highly taxed monopoly money

[west slate]

I know were not in a position to challenge old money exactly and I mean the real old money

however their empire is falling and something new is about to be born

and yes I know blackrock is buying up btc right now

[charred flax]

Yup their buying up your freedom while everyone's eating mcdonalds watching their idiot box tell them bitcoins a scam

[late condor]

u've been telling us this for 4 yrs

[fresh frost]

at least he is consistent

[late condor]

That's more of a disadvantage instead of a merit in my book

[fresh frost]

your book is wrong tho

[late condor]

that's true but besides the point

it works

[fresh frost]

fair

https://tenor.com/view/they-re-no-wrong-answers-always-right-stubborn-bonding-netflix-gif-16447973

[late condor]

so for the record

[fresh frost]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbulla-recording-god0t-godd0t-gif-7434352585621201243

[late condor]

consistency didn't bring down the old money freemason zionist's regime

[fresh frost]

nothing brings down old money

that's why it's old money

[late condor]

and no victory in court will make a schizophrenic back down

he'll just find another conspiracy

[fresh frost]

courts are over rated

[late condor]

That is

impressively wise of u

still a typo

[fresh frost]

I have my moments*.

[late condor]

...nother typo

[cold ledge]

is this highrisk zone?

[late condor]

I can do as I please I'm cancer

[cold ledge]

i just tagged earther coz i thought it was you

[fresh frost]

that's rude

[late condor]

ur affiliation w/ these dubious xenos damages ur reputation as a MOD and as a person

[cold ledge]

he posted a crying pepe and my brain wanted to respond immediately

[fresh frost]

[late condor]

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/crybaby-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-wah-wah-gif-17866102

just like this

he was upset

@near oriole sorry 🙂

[fresh frost]

2 PEPEs in a row can't be wrong

this is sad

[cold ledge]

i need sleep gn

[near oriole]

Too many crying Pepes of late.

[late condor]

He called me cancer just like that

@topaz pine I offer u an honest truce & my frenship if u'd have it

[near oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-indiana-jones-sean-connery-gif-14497359

[late condor]

It's just idk if he understands how much it hurt me

b/c I tried to befren him

[near oriole]

Haven't you been called worse in all the Discord banter?

[late condor]

eh... have I?

Bryan gave me such PTSD it doubled my weed consumption memory barely serves as of late

[near oriole]

I think this WAS meant for you earlier.

[late condor]

oh was it? <3

can u link?

[near oriole]

It was in reference to you.

[late condor]

rly?

[near oriole]

#📊┃economics message

[late condor]

eh

[lavish tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/unamused-cat-get-over-it-stare-done-gif-12818337

[late condor]

seemed random to me nah he didn't "touch" on anything if to trigger someshit is what that means he just

said I was cancer

so u're saying this is as good as I can hope for?

[near oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/moonstruck-cher-snap-out-of-it-smack-gif-12989772

[late condor]

idk he's not even replying to my dms

he must rly hate me when I've rly done nothing

[lavish tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/team-cancer-crab-cancer-gif-15339110

[topaz pine]

No. It was meant for you Earther. You didn't like Saint-Just putting Cancer in his name so I thought it was something personal for you. So I apologized to YOU.

[late condor]

u know a big chuck of why I still believe in this project is due to ur expertise & constant level of engagement @topaz pine

it's why I've defended u when u were about to rampage urself into some ban trap

I thought u should know

[near oriole]

Okay, fine. I guess I can't use that to fix your relationship.
But thanks.
😅

[near oriole]

Give it time.

[west slate]

this entire thing has lasted thousands of years, its not going to just crumble in a day as much as I would like for it to

the fall of rome into a catholic theocracy took generations

as in the active part of the fall not just the decline

and it still did not die, hopefully this time it does

[near oriole]

Constantine sealed that deal, iirc.

Who will secure the next empire?

[west slate]

the plan is for rome to die a final death and not be reborn ie that there will be no next empire

that means fundamentaly forcing the old money to give up their control over natural resources and the means to tunr them into goods and services

ie the empire is effectively the old money and shadow institutions etc that have been allowed to run things for the past few thousand years

[near oriole]

forcing how?
I think others are very aware of your perspective, but I haven't heard it all yet.
Maybe HRZ is the better channel to continue.

I should work.

There are some old ledger devices that don't

[west slate]

yeah its getting beyond where general chat should be, also the how is so situational that its hard to quantify right now with all the political chaos

[remote marlin]

It doesn't though

[near oriole]

Which device?

[remote marlin]

Same issue as months ago

[near oriole]

True. Lots of chaos. I hope a more equitable system can take over. But I'm skeptical. Money usually creates its own new empire when the old one dies. But maybe the cycle will end. Just not sure how.

I think I heard that Nano X is not supported. Nano S Plus is. I may be wrong. Need to look it up.

#📊┃economics message
Then it should work for you, friend.

Updated firmware?

🤔

Did you open a support ticket? Darwiin might know.

[remote marlin]

Yeah did this several times and keep hearing the same thing, but doing it again. Deleting wallet gives you 2 blanco options, so your guessing what to pick. This never changed neither

[near oriole]

Sorry. Not sure how to help. My ledger wasn't working before, so I just moved the crew that I wanted to play with onto a hot wallet and I use that. Still gives me XP on the account.

haven't tried with my ledger in awhile

[remote marlin]

I know they talked about the ability to link several accounts and wallets to the main account as they didn't seem to overcome the hardware wallet issues. A simple UI issue should be doable to fix though. Thanks for your help though

[late condor]

Barron Trump

[near oriole]

Not sure he has the charisma.
But good guess.

[late condor]

well he's tall and owns most of the Bitcoins

I fell in love w/ him in 2016 when he looked like a sleepy autist

on that

victory stage

of his father's

[near oriole]

Does he look different now?

[late condor]

Well he's taller

He's like 2m30cm can't say that in liberty units

which is impressive

& apparently enough to win the U.S.'s highest office these days

[near oriole]

[late condor]

I'd move this to #🆚┃high-risk-zone if I wasn't cancer

[near oriole]

I can

[late condor]

u can run but u can't stop my cancerous proliferation

[limber steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[west slate]

I'll be talking about this a bit on how it relates to us on my clean x account

[near oriole]

Bryan and I are best friends now 😄

[limber steeple]

Ooff .. got confused there. Need to check your handle hahaha

[late condor]

just

Cancer

will do

I guess

Since I'm nothing but

to Bryan

[near oriole]

Link?

[west slate]

https://x.com/jithbladecrypto

Joshua Peabody (@jithbladecrypto) / X

X

I provided it for the dao so it should come up in all that when the list is final

[fresh frost]

I’m Leo

https://tenor.com/view/mercury-must-be-in-retrograde-mercury-in-retrograde-astrology-stars-horoscope-gif-14083659

[late condor]

nah u're libra

[fresh frost]

No, I’m Leo

[late condor]

liar

[fresh frost]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-leonardo-dicaprio-django-unchained-meme-gif-18513725

Am I?

[late condor]

I beat u at drinking I get to dictate ur zodiac sign

[fresh frost]

You only did it with the power of my sunglasses

You have no power without them. Look at you crying over Bryan here

And going all in the zodiac

[late condor]

u surrendered those sunglasses willingly u're not entitled to any sort of compensation

I licked ur sunglasses

and chewed on them

[fresh frost]

My hair tastes nice. Can’t blame you

[late condor]

point for u

admittedly

[lavish tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/sheeple-sheep-followers-gif-14360272

Can someone tell me why I'm checking in for tickets?

[late condor]

[fresh frost]

To gain one ticket and have 1 chance for a Washing machine (or fridge? I don’t remember)

[lavish tinsel]

Damn my wife just told me she wants a new stove I think she is happy with the fridge and washing machine

[near oriole]

#📢┃announcements message

[slim elm]

finally someone talking about SA analytically! i got a few thoughts as a neutral party (no atlas/polis bag, no in-game assets, but been following SA closely in the lookout for THE breakout web3 game).

thoughts on zink:

1. disagree on cancelling zink as it's needed in developing a true on chain game.
2. agree on zink on the road to failure (as a chain), at least in the following few years. as it stands, it just looks like an effort to extend project runway with the airdrop and season passes. why not just release the chain without farming your users? what's the rush to airdrop tokens? really, without the chain generating revenue, and sharing that revenue to users, it's gonna be a dead chain. no tvl, no protocols on chain = dead chain. web3 and defi is give and take, if a project just takes, nobody in their right mind would even look at zink.

other points:
3. Cancel C4, redirect all you time to UE5 client of the game.
absolutely don't cancel C4, the key right now is to make a fun game that attracts users and generate revenue on chain. now the question is will on chain revenue be shared with token holders... and is revenue even be enough to be shared with token holders... if no, everything is just gonna keep on going down with more emissions and unlocks.

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/severance-black-ink-irving-b-dreaming-severance-dream-severance-gif-16247526115049363754

[thorn plank]

is sola bot dead?

[whole helm]

no, he/she is on caffe break.

[thorn plank]

it?

[whole helm]

?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1416104985523130511/1433407452061237269/image0.gif

[golden rapids]

sola-quit bot is wired, so much coffee in the last week.

[whole helm]

Maybe because of sugar

[limber steeple]

Jindo already mentioned it to the team

[acoustic lark]

Hey ! I keep getting this when trying to extend lock period of Polis, any idea ?

[upper cipher]

you need .15 SOL in the account to lock tokens

that might be why if you dont have that

[acoustic lark]

Got wayy more than that ^^

[limber steeple]

funds are still intact, yeah?

[acoustic lark]

What do you mean ?

[limber steeple]

i mean, the polis are still in your wallet

nothing was locked yet

[acoustic lark]

In the locker

[limber steeple]

oh sorry

[acoustic lark]

Np

[limber steeple]

you are extending the lock

my bad

[acoustic lark]

Yes trying to at least aha

[limber steeple]

probably best to #ticket so the team can check

Darwin should be online soon so he can help check

[acoustic lark]

Okk gonna do it tx !

[limber steeple]

might be some issues with the lockers atm

[acoustic lark]

👍

[limber steeple]

I was only able to lock earlier, not extend

[acoustic lark]

Okk

[upper cipher]

Looks like Sola Qint bot is back online for #☀️┃daily-check-in

[torn crest]

gm gm

[whole helm]

am a green

https://tenor.com/view/g4-g4tv-name-your-price-will-neff-nyp-gif-25206269

[torn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-bailando-gif-11631955412366097736

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cabbage-ai-dancing-lettuce-dance-gif-4662145642462330877

[random rapids]

GM Galia

[ocean trench]

So not only do you pay for the NFTs you have to lock in polis and Atlas and pay a subscription just to get a level playing field.🤔

[cold ledge]

you use what you have and try to make the best out of it

[upper cipher]

Same as everything else in life

[cold ledge]

at least thats what i do

[upper cipher]

vb is killing it without making purcahses, just playing hardcore

[cold ledge]

play holosim and sage

lockers is a bonus

then grind ue5

i recommend automation for both sage and holosim

i really think it favors small players a lot

[ocean trench]

I know all of this I have been in years but that does not change the facts I have given.

[cold ledge]

you do holosim and ue5 then

in german i would say you do not look a free horse in the mouth

@torn crest translate lol

[torn crest]

No one forces you to participate in a campaign where you get an airdrop in the end (after all thats why were doing this)

[ocean trench]

@cold ledge I also have my NFTs I had bought like claimstakesand other NFTs and NFTs that are not redeemable from Never alone.

[cold ledge]

we all do, and never alone was bad not gonna lie, but we should get these soon

more free stuff

why people complaining about free stuff

enlighten me

[torn crest]

It is a mystery to me as well

[cold ledge]

gm btw

just woke up

[torn crest]

gm ser

[cold ledge]

need cofffeeeeeeeeeeeee

[upper cipher]

I mean we had people losing their minds for a month over .02 SOL. Nothing surprises me anymore

[torn crest]

Dornröschen

[upper cipher]

Just got mine, still too hot

[cold ledge]

im still ahead of the @tall lava

[upper cipher]

The never alone thing has been slow af, cant say it any other way. Like i said though, when competeing with others in anything in life. Almost always the person with more money comes out on top. Just gotta do the best you can with what you got

[cold ledge]

and dont ask me how

cant explain it

[upper cipher]

Think you crushed his spirit. He didnt move yesterday

[cold ledge]

my secret advantage, no family to take care of 🙂

[upper cipher]

Hes just getting started too. Hope he can stay in his lore books with the little one using him as a jungle gym

[ocean trench]

Nothing you lot have said detract from what I have said and to remind you all that to get a level playing field you have to locking polis and Atlas and be on the highest subscription.

[upper cipher]

Like i said, the person with the most money always has the advantage, not sure what response you are wanting?

[cold ledge]

acknowledged, but also accept everyone can join by just playing 2 free games, i think that is amazing

[upper cipher]

I mean your top 15 atm without dumping into it no?>

pretty damn solid

[cold ledge]

and its not all about the leaderboard

[ocean trench]

Was I asking for an answer just stating facts.

[cold ledge]

its zxp which translates into the airdrop

[upper cipher]

I dont think anyone is disagreeing with you either.

[cold ledge]

so someone who pays the subscription or has a lot of polis locked, he worked hard for that, do you acknowledge that?

others work hard by playing holosim and ue5

so everyone is included?

you compare totally different approaches

and want them compete

[upper cipher]

People want the best of both worlds. Low entry, high rewards. This will never change.

[cold ledge]

i guess, im to old to think that would work

i also accepted im poor

doesnt make me a bad person

[upper cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/drama-queen-wallet-baby-empty-no-gif-17876993868421885557

[cold ledge]

there is more important things in life than money or zxp

[upper cipher]

I took a different look at the zXP all together. I just look at it as a reward for doing the things i already do

didnt really change anything. Just grinding the same as ever, with additional perks

[cold ledge]

thats the best part of it, well i went back to holosim and sage

coz i was lazy 🙂

[upper cipher]

Yeah, not anymore

grinding!

[cold ledge]

its not like that

setup sly and start printing

enjoy while it lasts

[upper cipher]

you using sly on holo as well?

[cold ledge]

its not some magic or anything

[cold ledge]

of course, otherwise i could not play 🙂

[upper cipher]

Yeah i never did set it up

[tall lava]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-tears-cry-pain-gif-751768185601421297

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/move-faster-go-faster-mad-angry-gif-17875678

haha

[silk nest]

Hi @cold ledge It has been 3 days since I opened a ticket, so far no response. Ticket ID: 6905214a1a5cb1f0ce333320