👽┃general

[mortal lark]

not crafted ships, but ships bought from other players will have

so ships bought from ATMTA, and crafted ships, will have issues, yes

maybe something for ATMTA to think about

[west slate]

that still depends on them actually putting the components on the market

[mortal lark]

no player in their right mind will hoard useless component bundles, they will want to sell them

[west slate]

your assuning everyone who reconfigured is thinking like you

[mortal lark]

as in, if they have component bundles that are not from their ships

[mortal lark]

no, i am assuming that people with half a brain will not want money idle for months

[west slate]

there will be people who might not claim the drops

[mortal lark]

I for one will likely sell all my component bundles as quickly as possible, they are useless until ship config anyway

[west slate]

again thats your line of thinking thats not necessarily where everyone is at

[mortal lark]

sure, but it's not like you're the authority on how everyone is thinking either. I would gamble that most people who are looking for profits (likely 95% of players atm) will sell their bundles, especially if it doesn't correspond to the ships they have

[west slate]

you need to stop acting like everyone is 100% degan here

[west slate]

again, your assuming that it will all be mostly 1 for 1 and it likely won't be

[mortal lark]

HFS mate, just using common sense, instead of getting all emotional, let's just wait and see who's right here, damn. I care not to discuss permutations with you, I will take my gamble, you will take yours, idgaf what you chose mate

[mortal lark]

aside from crafted and ATMTA sold ships, it will be

[west slate]

some people moved on completely as well and may not be claiming the drop

there are a lot of other factors here

[mortal lark]

sure, i mean if people just sold, and care not to sell their component bundle (which will likely be worth something), sure that could happen

[west slate]

your just assuming everyone who sold thier ships will sell before the change

[mortal lark]

I think more will sell than those that don't, i am willing to bet that component bundles will be cheap pre-ship config, considering they are worthless until then

could be months

[west slate]

yeah but it still would mean that some people get priced out etc

[mortal lark]

well, then you gotta be smart about it, if we want to talk about players being priced out, that is another discussion entirely, not one that i care to enter in with you, as it seems to be the way you direct every single damn discussion on this discord, regardless of how the topic originated, it always goes back to "but then players will be priced out" that's for ATMTA to figure out, not us, damn

[shrewd thorn]

@cold ledge news for SA SDU wallet refill? ... 🥶

[west slate]

also note the components will have 0 utility out the gate, the smarter people will wait till there is demand

as why would you sell at the bottom of the market

plus bots and speculators

[mortal lark]

I will sell all my components, and buy more ships on discount, the production output they will provide over the course of (however long it take until ship config goes live) will more than offset any potential gains of "holding onto them until there is demand"

[west slate]

again thats you, thats not everyone

[mortal lark]

this frame of mind will more than suffice for anyone wanting to buy my (and anyone elses) components on the cheap

you cannot argue for both sides, pick one

[west slate]

your projecting

[mortal lark]

lmfao, wut ?

[west slate]

your acting like everyone is you and not going to make their own decisions

[mortal lark]

i dunno how you're thinking, but i won't be holding useless ship bundles for months, when i could have ships producing something, or literally have my money in any defi protocol producing something

anyone with half a brain on their shoulders will be doing the same

and anyone not thinking like I am, is welcome to take advantage of buying ship bundles on the cheap, everyone wins

[west slate]

and that still means that there will be people who won't have the bundles for their fleets because of lack of market liquidity

[cold ledge]

not yet, xcode is working on it

[mortal lark]

yeah, well, i hope you're right, then my component bundles will sell more expensive (something I am not expecting at all), what you're saying makes no sense from a logical perspective.

[west slate]

they will get more expensive when they have utility

[mortal lark]

the only problem I can see is ships that were crafted or ATMTA sales post snapshot (as these will not have ship bundles on the market), something I hope ATMTA takes into consideration

[west slate]

supply / demand

[mortal lark]

yeah, so people buying them before they have utility will be buying them on the cheap

you assume that people will hold useless components for months, i doubt that'll happen

especially if those components don't even correspond to the ships they own

[barren magnet]

Waiting in multisig

[west slate]

on airdrop there is full supply 0 demand meaning the buyers will be people paying attention and speculators, after implimentation everyone will be scrambling to get their bundles, note thats after months of ships being sold and changing hands

[mortal lark]

oh i don't doubt that it's going to be a clusterfuck when ship config goes live

but tbh, people who care should be following this space, that's on them

[serene willow]

Bro... Bro... This is so old that Signal was still here. 🙈
Haha Merry Christmas, buddy! Hope you had a great holiday!

[trail hill]

GM yall

[uneven umbra]

Gm ghostcat!

[thorny lantern]

wen SDU? 🎅

[barren magnet]

Just waiting on one more signature.

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-up-saba-mrs-whoever-song-drop-the-call-put-the-phone-down-gif-19011934

[worthy comet]

did they lower de Atlas daily pool for LP?

[viscid ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/wen-creepz-wenfinity-wenwenwen-creepz-wen-gif-25738654

[mortal lark]

Yes

#🩹┃patch-notes message

IT'S ALIVE !

SDUs online

[worthy comet]

thanx, I missed that part

[uneven umbra]

Lets gooooo

[visual jacinth]

Atlas brew code

[pulsar moat]

Gmgm

[cold ledge]

Try "Food" might still work

[visual jacinth]

Worked

[lost rivet]

you guys should buy some atlas so the price goes up 4 me!!

[patent iris]

You first!

[lost rivet]

lol I did

[patent iris]

That was the warm up... GO HARDER. DEEPER.

[patent iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874400139534536745/1319038169605472326/swag-buy-buy.gif

[vernal veldt]

Reverse Cramer indicator never gonna lie

[patent iris]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935606734192529449/1305219096337449011/swag-well-shit.gif

[barren magnet]

Yep, SDUs are back online!

[patent iris]

They're BACK...

BIGGER... STRONGER... FASTER

[viscid ivy]

Thanks!

[bitter mist]

Hey all

I'm so late

[vernal veldt]

Can you make atlas up to 0.006$ in the same way you returned SDU?

[uneven umbra]

Helloooo

[uneven umbra]

Nooo

U are not late

We are still in the early stages of the game

[prime barn]

yo

[uneven umbra]

Hello 👋

[valid leaf]

Good day

[lost rivet]

is there a phantom discord?

[sick iron]

Gm family

[sinful swallow]

Whats up my dooods! I spy componets in the market place! O.o

[uneven umbra]

Heyy! No, but if u need support, check here https://help.phantom.com/hc/en-us

You can access to the support channel from here too https://phantom.com/

[uneven umbra]

Gmmmm 👋

[uneven umbra]

Dooooood

https://tenor.com/view/david-grusch-huh-thats-interesting-gif-14302142498318675917

[pastel slate]

Morning everyone

DO anyone know what these contracts are in the contracts menuin the market are used for? "ONI Infrastructure Contract"

I dont see it in the manual anywhere

[sinful swallow]

How you doing my doood stick?

[uneven umbra]

Gmgm

[pastel slate]

gm

[uneven umbra]

Its part of one the lastet updates, check here #🩹┃patch-notes message

[mortal lark]

#🩹┃patch-notes message

[pastel slate]

So that must explains the ship parts menu that new

[uneven umbra]

Doing great bro and u?

[pastel slate]

@uneven umbra Thank you for the info!

[lost rivet]

tystick

[uneven umbra]

Nope, that update is part of the ship airdrop update https://medium.com/star-atlas/into-the-shipyard-exploring-the-ships-framework-in-star-atlas-270f41e5b1be

[uneven umbra]

You're welcome!

[uneven umbra]

Anytime

[ruby compass]

Need an atlas brew code

[uneven umbra]

Try "Food", that's the last one

[mint crystal]

What kind of food do you recommend?

[uneven umbra]

Milanesas

And drinks

U already know my answer

Naaah not coffee @mint crystal

https://tenor.com/view/chimarrão-mate-terere-bebida-drinking-gif-15348855

[mint crystal]

My house is currently filled with lumpia, pancit, milkfish, and ziti haha. Nobody made adobo. 😕

[mint crystal]

Hahaha well I couldn't find a mate emoji

[uneven umbra]

Nooooo

But well, sounds like a lot of good food

[uneven umbra]

Mhmmmmm

Okay, I forgive you this one

[pastel slate]

@uneven umbra I just crafted 100 of the ONI Infrastructure Contract, they completed but when I went to Staff Efforts and collected them I don't see them anywhere in starbase or wallet.

[terse bane]

so ima at UST-2 to hand in my first ever Infra contracts, and there's 1 offer of 4 Atlas to buy 1x contract, and there is another offer of 100k to buy for .01 Atlas - what am i missing here?

[uneven umbra]

Hey

[woeful oracle]

look where ur suppossed to turn them in those are players not NPC

[uneven umbra]

Do you still have this problem?

[vestal current]

Let's start the eighth round of the Marble Cup and probably some mini competitions in UE5, come on over #📺┃content-creators

In 10 minutes we will start the first minor race of the night
Prizes:
1st place - 2000 atlas
2nd place - 1000 atlas
3rd place - 500 atlas
Last place - 500 atlas

[idle yew]

Thank you! I'll try that. Re entering the info is driving me nuts!!lol

[sinful swallow]

Doing awesome as well! Just enjoying a nice chill holiday

[vestal current]

Congratulations @deft lion @quartz ore @tawny temple and megadeny

[raven trail]

sem som

voltou

kkkkkkk

[pastel slate]

still can't see them anywhere after collecting them. Going to give a bit more time

I also just refreshed the page

[vestal current]

Let's try to do some deathmatch matches in UE5 in 5 minutes. The first place in the match will win 2000 Atlas. My internet is fluctuating and may go down, if that happens, whoever was in first place at the time of the crash will count (we'll check on the live VOD).
Rules:

• All races are allowed except Punaabs;
• I will be from Punaab broadcasting and narrating the match;
• Killing the Punaab will count as -1 point for the final classification.

[pastel slate]

Not too sure why this is but on the pc I could not see it on either one of my 2 computers. What I do find odd is I got the msg when checking on a mobile device It gave me coordinates for pickup, nice!. But still don't see the msg on my 2 pc's.

[vestal current]

Congratulations @vital vortex for the Deathmatch win

In 2 minutes we will start the second minor race of the night
Prizes:
1st place - 2000 atlas
2nd place - 1000 atlas
3rd place - 500 atlas
Last place - 500 atlas

[simple cloud]

transaction to claim crafted fuel just cost me $0.12 👀

Phantom wallet with active priority fees

[merry urchin]

my internet is so bad right now but at least I can play marbles!!

[vestal current]

Congratulations @junior elbow @wispy musk @reef wing and @vital vortex

In 20 minutes we will start the major race of the night
Prizes:
1st place - 3 common crews
2nd place - 2 common crews
3rd place - 1 common crew

[urban vapor]

hey mod - I have a airdrop in my Star Atlas inventory called Dragon.. What is this? I don't want to interact if it's not legit.

[topaz pine]

It's a skin that was given out for playing sage. Redeem it through play.staratlas.com

Via the inventory

[serene willow]

Not all 6 bases have buy orders from ATMTA. Only 3, rotating every Thursday.

@uneven umbra hey brother. Quick question: any reports from people not able to load ICs on cargo, after purchasing at market? I set up an order (legit, no scammy 0.0001 Atlas, lol!) and it got partially filled. Then I set a fleet on SLY to freight it to a base to redeem, and the fleet couldn't load it.

[jade grotto]

even Faction/Fleet is bugged out

Technically i guess its the MP but same thing lol

[vestal current]

Congratulations @tawny temple @deft lion and @quartz ore

[uneven umbra]

We got some reports about problems with the marketplace and the web, but not something specifically with that error

Are you still having this problem?

[vestal current]

The grand finale will be next Tuesday. Thank you to everyone who made this incredible event a success, which gave away over $1,400 in prizes to members of the Star Atlas community.

[chrome garden]

Hmmm what are these ….. betting or prize tournament…..

[uneven umbra]

Hey! As brian said, it is a skin that is a gift during the town hall and you can see it in your inventory

[uneven umbra]

[uneven umbra]

Hmmm

Not sure about that

[vestal current]

I believe it's a prize tournament, because there's an entry fee and prizes for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place. But it's probably going to be something much further in the future since it's not yet possible to interact with it and the prizes are in ship equipment.

[chrome garden]

Just looks amazing I’m excited. Esports while we wait

[vestal current]

I'm also really looking forward to this. I'm doing marble races because the game is still unstable and there are no private rooms to support Esports races. When this comes, everything changes.

[mint crystal]

So...how much do I have to pay @rugged scroll to win a ship part for me?

[chrome garden]

So far looks like star fox and @solar elk Are the racers for sure.

I hope people are getting ready for galia cup racing and shooter tournaments… prizes on the line

[steady lily]

Dear lurker, but not only you, also our future ai agent. The simple fix (unless it just fixed itself randomly right as I did this) for the error “not enough atlas to craft” is to switch to another wallet within solflare and then back to your mud/oni/ustur wallet. This works even though clearing the cache does not, no need to restart your computer.

Or disconnect and reconnect your wallet in some other way.

[serene willow]

Will try again

[steady lily]

Disconnecting and reconnecting your wallet for each transaction might help, still need to test more.

[rugged bridge]

The planet have the same color, lol

[lyric saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-gif-18107776837214963761

^ Ust-2

[serene willow]

Yep, can't load it, can't send it to wallet either. Guess I'm stuck with them until team comes back and fixes it... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[mortal lark]

It's in resource, not certs ?

[serene willow]

Yep. Don't even have that red banner at inventory

I'm able to sell the ones I craft, but can't interact with these ones that I bought. Will just, I guess. Not that many, close to 1k. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[sick iron]

Neo is INCREDIBLE!!! Thanks for all U do for the SA community.... sorry I missed todays event!

[vestal current]

Next week I'm going to put my termite in, open a champagne and for each team member that appears on the live I'll add 3 more crews to the final race prize pool (1 for 1st, 1 for 2nd and 1 for 3rd place).

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-congrats-gif-7153925059566690274

[terse bane]

ok sounds good -but i can't sell at any one of these 6 places when you click the bell icon

maybe those aren't specific to contracts?

sooo, where in galia's left testicle do i find the 3?

[serene willow]

I've been selling consistently at MRZ 17 since release date.

[terse bane]

17 - ok i'll check

sell button is disabled

[serene willow]

Go to local markets, scroll all the way down, select the Ustur Infrastructure Contract. If the base is the right one, it will show.

[terse bane]

probably because i only have popsicle sticks there?

[serene willow]

I think 28 had on the first week, and then rotated out

17 remained. (It's random, it just went 2x in a row)

[woeful oracle]

this map looks dope

[barren magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/supply-drop-humvee-drop-gif-13892247

speaking of airdrops... cc @mortal lark

[normal finch]

oh shit!

airdropped, but will they be needed to function soon?

[wet shore]

Wicked just looked through the inventory, do titans not have a parts drop?

[desert beacon]

not yet it would seem

[plush vessel]

Is there a known issues with entering Golden Tickets using a Solflare Wallet?

[lament mulch]

Howdy ho

Merry Christmas, everyone. Just dropping in after so long to say hi

[stark juniper]

Yes, works with phantom mobile

[plush vessel]

Ok, I don't use Mobile, but it is good to know that it no longer works with Solflare

[hallow sundial]

Already some great comedy pricing on components haha

[chilly tinsel]

you have to have the IC in that specific base's inventory. if you have them in your wallet or in another starbase, you can't sell them at 17

[tepid kiln]

gm

[azure plover]

Erm...is the SDU wallet filled?

[cyan trench]

ok

[potent pumice]

when can we put them on our ships or am I missing somthing

[vernal aspen]

what is the chain for this project?

[noble iris]

Ty team for the unexpected airdrop, I thought you guys where taking a break

[vernal aspen]

hi can i ask when is the token launch?

[steady lily]

Solona

[steady lily]

Already happened. Star atlas - Atlas, and polis - Star atlas DAO on coin market cap. 2 tokens

[vernal aspen]

Thank you

[cold ledge]

Solana

[valid yoke]

So we just claim the ship parts?

[cold ledge]

I guess so

they not implemented in the game yet

[restive wing]

did you change your pic again?

[cold ledge]

i dont remember, must been a while ago

[restive wing]

i thouhg it was mre orange..

[cold ledge]

could be but i think i have this one for like a month

[restive wing]

i havent been gone for that long, surely...

[restive wing]

so you got any GT to donate to my cause?

[cold ledge]

fuel only 🙂

[restive wing]

I saw you had some listed...

[cold ledge]

yeah every 3/4 days or so

not doing much in sage, i was tempted to do some scanning but meh

im old

[restive wing]

big activty you have going

[ancient spire]

Wait, did ship components just get air dropped? How come no announcement?

[restive wing]

surprise 🤷‍♀️

[cold ledge]

yes and no idea

[cold ledge]

not really, i was thinking about buying some ships maybe

[ancient spire]

Sure it's not a scam or something?

[restive wing]

a packlite?

[cold ledge]

pretty sure i claimed it coz it was on the sa inventory

[cold ledge]

to expensive

[restive wing]

but youre a millionaire

[cold ledge]

not even atlas 🙂

[restive wing]

just fuel...

[ancient spire]

Great! Team really moving at pace, didn't expect this many releases pre. 2025.

[cold ledge]

yeah 🙂

[quartz parcel]

hi guys
Join the Weekly Atlas Brew how can ı earn this code ?

[inland jackal]

Atlas

[fresh mulch]

thx for the parts SA team ...can we use or not yet ....and will we get any crew and parts for our claim stakes or not decided yet??

[cold ledge]

not yet, claim stakes you deploy later in the game and build things on them

they had a aidrop for these buildings after the sale

but like modules you also can craft and upgrade these yourself

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-bobm-gmod-gif-26234935

https://tenor.com/view/robot-lasers-robot-attack-gif-20018346

[torn crest]

Try “food”

[tired sundial]

holy cow! 🐄

that should be a double capital hit

[terse bane]

That’s what happens when you don’t distribute logarithmically- whales feast

[torn crest]

Forgive me my ignorance but wouldn’t whales just split their tickets over multiple wallets then?

[lyric saddle]

Yes but they'd have to go through the process of doing that, which takes time and effort

Whales are lazy

[tired sundial]

well there are still 6 capitals for the rest

[lyric saddle]

It is nice to have the Carnival back overall

[serene willow]

Also, don't do GT in the future... Focus on meaningful content. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[lyric saddle]

It functions as entertainment and a massive resource burn for the Galian economy

Which we do need

[quartz parcel]

INCORRECT

[cold ledge]

Food

also maybe its to late for the code

[serene willow]

I very respectfully disagree. We don't need it.

[potent dirge]

GM

Wsup Galia !

[sharp geyser]

Nj

[whole helm]

9000$ surprise me what he wone?

[serene willow]

@cold ledge hey brother. Do you know exactly how to proceed to verify myself on Matrica for FR access? I followed instructions, nothing showed up here on discord.

[cold ledge]

sometimes takes a bit, but should be fast, just connect discord and the wallet to matrica

[serene willow]

Ok, will give it some time then. Connected and linked already.

Thanks, brother. 😄

[quartz parcel]

ok mods

[keen summit]

Let me suggest a a very simple fix: Let players participate, not wallets. We block all wallets below a certain threshold from participating.
This can be the wallet age, the wallets previous transaction count, value of SA assets owned or some data form the player profile like SAGE XP earned.

[torn crest]

That would definitely make it more attractive to me

[round storm]

This ✅

[desert beacon]

the day you cut people down for bringing in too much money is the day you lose that income to our project

we need more money coming in not less. would you bring in more money to the project if you knew that at any point you could be deemed "too big" and subsequently handicapped?

[tardy patio]

GM

[bitter trellis]

Can someone help me out? I just received 'ship parts'. Where can I find out what to do with these?

[keen summit]

I would rather have thousands of players bringing in small money into a fair competition, than a few investors just buying their wins with all the small people loosing and leaving.

[upper cipher]

Nothing to do with them atm. Eventually you'll be able to place them in your ships

they are upgrades to the T0 mods you have on your ships now

[desert beacon]

The guy your talking about has effectively burned $9000 worth of tickets. He stands to loose more than anyone

[upper cipher]

almost 12k now

[desert beacon]

And he has the same chances per ticket as everyone else

It couldn’t be more fair. If you’d rather him just take that money elsewhere then idk what to say. That project would be lucky to have the influx of capital

[whole helm]

thing is just that. that you can´t buy luck.

[tired sundial]

Only way I see to do this is imo is using some kind of wallet ID verification, or another approach could be using Tiers like JUP is trying, but also again prone to splitings wallets

[whole helm]

so that you can´t call game off luck but game off cash

[desert beacon]

Or we could just give equitable compensation and odds proportional to how much you support the project to exist.

[upper cipher]

Its a casino honestly, that guy has 12k to drop at the casino, others dont

cept we're gaining from people spending money at the casino

[whole helm]

it is bad copy also because money isn´t luck and luck isn´t knowledge. simple

[upper cipher]

be happy people choose to spend their funds in the game we love

fr

[keen summit]

No, he has not. Not with the way its currently working. Winners are drafted from a pool, and if you own more of the pool, you have a higher chance of winning.

[tired sundial]

I have some tickets for sale in marketplace if someone wants them ^^

[desert beacon]

He has the exact same odds PER TICKET as everyone else.

Why should someone who spends $5k have better odds per ticket than someone spending $12k?

Why would we push someone away because they want to invest resources into the success of the project in exchange for vested interest?

[iron geyser]

hi mates

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-gif-10883362008774839284

[upper cipher]

You know what time it is bro, Golden Carnival day, you ready!?

[keen summit]

Because the project will die if all small players leave and only a few whales are left.
Its not important how the details work. Its important how its perceived from a players perspective.

[upper cipher]

oh i want them haha, i just cant

[desert beacon]

The project will die without whales as well.

It takes all kinds

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/berat-berat-koç-gif-25184597

[upper cipher]

Life aint going anywhere, and whales run that shit too

just do what you can with what you have and stop worrying about everyone else

[keen summit]

So, whats your suggestion to bring back all the small players who stopped participating?

[whole helm]

who are whales?

Couple people behind the scene by project from start?

[desert beacon]

Cater to players of all sizes equitably, increase utility, and capture a larger market share of users. Rinse repeat

At no point should we dissuade investment from any demographic

[whole helm]

small people made whales. after that you have eclipse.

[tired sundial]

I tried the sweeping technique last year and I almost had a heart attack 😅 and even if you win your turnout will be lower, and you are assuming a huge risk, probabilities are not guarantees, any single ticket in the 3M pool can take the prize

[keen summit]

We onboard a new player. Player submits 5-10 tickets. He sees a whale winning all assets, same name over and over again. Player leaves.
I don't want to discuss whales vs small players, I look for a way to fix this.

[desert beacon]

Most of the biggest players invested hundreds of thousands and in some cases millions of dollars from outside the project.

[whole helm]

so if you founding project you can be a whales?

beter to say what is chain?

[desert beacon]

Someone invests 25 cents and gets upset that they didn’t win a raffle?

[tired sundial]

even with whales, we are also having 100k vwap tankships going to 1k tickets wallets

[whole helm]

story go, how small people should wait couple bullRunns and whin some cash to come and play to be a good and positive player..

[desert beacon]

Idk what you mean. Some things f the whales here were from private sales of tokens early on unfortunately, but most the players who actively play bought thier assets just like everyone else.

[terse bane]

Sybil whales 🐳 make good sushi 🍣

[keen summit]

Do we have any analytics how many small players won something?

[desert beacon]

Smaller players have done very well in the raffle so far

Much better than the larger players

Personally I have lost prolly 10k

If not more

[whole helm]

if you lose player, you will seek for new one if you repeat that several time you becoming a bad brand

[tired sundial]

they'r in the chain, anyone who wans and knows how could make a list

[desert beacon]

Losing players and gaining them has to be a natural process. If you manipulate the economy to gain a demographic it will be the wrong crowd anyway.

[tired sundial]

small players have a small chance to win a HUGE turnout

[whole helm]

but economy have influence on other party´s, in first at political party

[violet verge]

Hey guys, this game already playable ? How to get a game key for demo play?

[cold ledge]

Welcome, #🔑┃game-access-key you can get a key there, have fun.

[whole helm]

2050 Year coming, they spoke how early project is about 25 year. Many people make salary on crypto more then 10 year, each time scammers and terrorist become bigger whit them people who oft believe how terror is solution.

Small players will vanish and big whales also

[tired sundial]

that's a huge jump, but imo wallets will require ID verification by law eventually

[storm crystal]

I wonder if a lottery company gets the same complaints ... hey, someone with 10000 lottery tickets has won more often than me with 10 tickets. It's rigged!

[tired sundial]

few tickets left in the marketplace

a little more and chances will be settled

[serene willow]

That's precisely how statistics work. Problem is not with that. Problem is with the existence of Carnival/GT. It shouldn't exist. We have much better/more important ways to focus development resources/in-game resources.

[graceful loom]

but people like to gamble

[serene willow]

They can gamble elsewhere

[keen summit]

Traditional lottery does not use a shared pool system.

[storm crystal]

GT development? I'm pretty sure the development for the GTs is almost non-existent.
All they had to do was to modify the old GT recipe and bring it online. Then post the prizes to Hedgehog. Done.
imo it is just a gap filler to keep people happy until the "real" development is done.
Several weeks before the new GTs were announced, people complained about "give us new options and/or game loops", so the GTs were a quick fix for it.
Also we have FICs and local market now.

[storm crystal]

yeah, but the outcome is the same: someone with 100 tickets has 10x better chances than someone with 10 tickets.

[upper plank]

Is Base down? Can't connect to my character.....

[whole helm]

why not GT -DEV office not earn same cash and give to other?

[serene willow]

I think it creates more problems (especially in sentiment) than solutions. And yeah, development had to be deployed. Lots of issues with submitting/redeeming, Hedgehog is absolutely croc shit, etc. etc.

I just think it takes attention away from relevant aspects.

[mint crystal]

I think the way to "fix" it is to put together a proposal for an alternate event. Perhaps that other event can run along side the ticket lottery thing. It'd be another event of the Golden Carnival.

I don't like the ticket thing either. I make my 100 ticket donation each week and move on. I just view it as a thing that I can't really participate in.

[keen summit]

Well, my main takeaway from this discussion here is nobody cares about small players. Very bad for the ecosystem.
I have zero interest in getting a masters degree in gambling systems. Its about how its perceived by players, not about how all the details work.

[mortal lark]

what exactly about golden carnival is perceived as not "small player friendly" ?

is there like a minimum entry level that is gating small players out ?

The ideal participation a smaller player who doesn't want to gamble would do during the golden carnival is craft tickets and sell them. There is literally something for everyone, if you just open your eyes and look.

If they do want to gamble, they cannot begrudge someone who has more money than them and is able to submit more tickets, that's just strange.

[mint crystal]

I think you're barking up the wrong tree. I think what you're asking for is a "small player centric" way to interact with the ecosystem. And I agree with you - this is huge! I don't think the current Golden Carnival event is that thing. We need something else.

[mortal lark]

it's not like the lottery gatekeeps how many lottery tickets someone can buy, they can literally buy as many as they please, same system here, and it's the only system that works from a revenue perspective for ATMTA (which is all Golden Carnival really is)

[whole helm]

when you looking for fun you don´t need a cash or you do?

[mint crystal]

I braid strands of grass for fun. That's free.

https://tenor.com/view/playing-in-the-mud-dog-viralhog-having-fun-in-the-mud-having-a-good-time-in-the-mud-gif-17435127523635171936

or play in the mud

[whole helm]

starvation, dieses, nature other catastrophe shall not end fast if chain broke. Who made chain´s know better for sure. But party stay party not heaven soul.

https://tenor.com/view/bigger-fish-to-fry-fish-big-fishing-food-gif-10976421164832344588

[sick iron]

GM Galia... Golden Day today!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/home-movie-oh-party-you-are-all-invited-to-a-party-party-invite-gif-5354189436314270186

[timber hollow]

To create a lottery event that is fair for both large investors and smaller players, we should adopt the same principle as real-world lotteries, where the total value of the winning prizes is less than the total ticket sales. In the case of the Golden Carnival, the total value of the prizes is significantly higher than the total cost of the tickets, which allows bigger investors to make more profit. While it may seem fair in terms of the percentage return on investment, in practice, the majority of the prizes end up going to the wealthiest participants.

[serene willow]

@cold ledge nothing on FR. Ticket time, I guess?

[cold ledge]

no tickest till january im sorry

[serene willow]

Oh yeah, not in a hurry. Also, I have a perma-ticket, hahaha! So many issues, that it ends up never getting closed.

Makes me feel somewhat special... 🙃🥲

[gaunt panther]

It costs me a good amount of resources to print 1000 tickets. But in a pool of 3.3 million tickets, it's just not worth it. Therefore the Golden Carnival is really an event for whales. I've probably put in around $15k into my account over the last few years. Not small not big. But have almost no chance at winning anything.

[cold ledge]

if i see darwwin only he might could give you a manual role, but fr room is also closed till january so you wont miss much

[cold ledge]

i dont believe in luck either 🙂

[reef hawk]

whats laging today ?

getting tx confirmed nothing ever happends

even after 20 min ?!

or should i just turn it off and forget about it like the last 20 days ?!

[cold ledge]

im on 650 failed/retries out of 1840txn in the past 20h today

[reef hawk]

seems you are tolerant person

[serene willow]

Priority fees is the only way

[cold ledge]

i use sly, if you play manual, you in for a tough grind

[cold ledge]

not for me 🙂

[serene willow]

Over 10k to get 90s confirmation right now.

[cold ledge]

whats your average sol?

[serene willow]

I respect the stubbornes, haha! Problem is, at some point, it costs more to halt than to pay higher fees. 🥴

This statistics feature is so helpful! Love it

[cold ledge]

me to

[serene willow]

I wish it logged how many SDUs found.

That would be REALLY useful

[reef hawk]

always manual , the issue is i got like 85% of rss for mamba like 40 days ago , in the meantime im at max 88% of rss needed , lost like 2 mil rochinol and few mil iron that i bought on market , got ussual dev response ( its not us we are sorry ) so i dont dare buy cuz its never getting to me , no i trust starting craft because the data is a mess , so im stuck , to be honest i gave up , there are like 300 left if i get it even better if not duno i might just stop stresing my self and sell all i got ......

[serene willow]

I just recently had 2 times that issue. Bought stuff, it arrived at wallet, and vanished a few days later. Very weird

[cold ledge]

That sounds brutal, will ask if there is any fix.

[serene willow]

I'm not touching Local Markets again until this whole SPL tokens mess is sorted out.

I had an order to buy UICs that got partially filled. I got about 950 UICs that I couldn't use (couldn't load on cargo to move). 2 days later, it vanished. Poof!

[upper plank]

Anyone able to get into Based now? I connect my wallet and nothing is there.

[torn crest]

I was just able to connect.
Do a hard refresh (ctrl+F5), browser restart or try to delete cache/cookies for the website

[upper plank]

did a refresh. Did a reboot. Shut browser down and so forth. Been working like a clock till this holiday season.

It's wierd. It sees my created character. Select it from a drop down and then nothing happens....

[west roost]

hir guys! how can get key for acess antecpated

[torn crest]

#❓┃ask-a-question message

[torn crest]

Maybe there's something out of sync with based atm.
Hopefully it works after some time 🙏

[wild osprey]

I can't stop mining I think it's an rpc issue?

[torn crest]

Solana might be busy again, what wallet are you using?

[clever musk]

anyone else having issues submitting golden tickets? been trying since last night

[torn crest]

Don't take DMs! Scammers are watching

[wild osprey]

Phantom

[torn crest]

A workaround that helped some users was to use phantom mobile to submit

[clever musk]

okay thanks im giving it a shot now

[torn crest]

Solana might be congested again, happens sometimes at this time of day.

[clever musk]

It worked, thanks!

[tired sundial]

only 30min

still good odds, last mega week was 5.6M

10min

1min left, no party?

[pastel slate]

No link to view event?

[lucid path]

guess not

[pastel slate]

Boooo! Lol

[tired sundial]

some of us are chatting here https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1302050412471255103

[modern bobcat]

whatttt

theres another guy named Legion

got me scared tought ive won something lol

[uneven umbra]

Loool

[modern bobcat]

well feels like its worth spending 15k US of GT!

[west slate]

yeah dom and santi are on break so none of the usual commentary till they get back

[modern bobcat]

i think i'll invite Elon musk here, next friday he win them all !

[normal finch]

wow Ritor.. 5 out of 6!!! wow

[modern bobcat]

yeah... GG i guess lol

[tepid kiln]

usual weird statistics... I don't believe on raffle anymore

[lucid path]

if i only had $10k to put on this raffle its totally worth it

[tepid kiln]

it's ridiculous

[modern bobcat]

well 15k US give you 500k tickets... doesnt mean you get SO MUCH from a raffle lol

[uneven umbra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874822797711507486/1304988979824824330/swag-no-country-for-old-men.gif

[modern bobcat]

specially at the end!

[tepid kiln]

statistically is 1 for sure... not 5 big in succession? not for real!

[rugged scroll]

I'm crying. It's too big for it to be a coincidence lol

[modern bobcat]

well, tell me who's going to put 15k US per week in a "raffle"

[rugged scroll]

I will drink to forget

[nimble belfry]

seem like shinanigans for me

[pastel slate]

Not nice watching the same whales win week after week

[modern bobcat]

that last win had 10k tickets

[tepid kiln]

yeah whales... but I've asked to IA... something is wrong

too much "coincidence"

[pastel slate]

makes me question myself if i should play

[modern bobcat]

3 armstrong imp in a row... lolll

[nimble belfry]

nothing is wrong , thigs might be corupt same as in real gouverment 🙂

[tepid kiln]

try to ask some expert of statistics... lol

[modern bobcat]

i bet they most of them work on the game and thats theire bonus

[tepid kiln]

I would prefer to a dev that... other

[modern bobcat]

well at the end they'll all be playing alone hahaha

[nimble belfry]

maybe time to get out of me 🙂

[modern bobcat]

same here

[tepid kiln]

5 and 3 in a rows on capital... but lol

I feel stupid that I believed to win something and put hard bucks for me this weeks

[nimble belfry]

same

[modern bobcat]

yeah ive put alot since the start and never won a thing

and then you see a guy win 5 bigger ship in a row lol

[broken smelt]

hi

[modern bobcat]

funny fact, someone won with my profile name... but thats not me , lolll

[lucid path]

quick back of the envelope based on lowest USD$ marketplace prices, skyfinder (#3 ticket entries) walked away with over $19k worth of prizes (not including Butch which isnt for sale) for the $6k put in

why wouldn't whales keep contributing to this project?

[west roost]

which ship do you recommend to get to the planets faster?

[jade grotto]

they should keep contributing but the smaller players shouldn't be relegated to "competing" against them in the raffle. JS

[lucid path]

how should they do it? all raffles have the same odds of winning

[modern bobcat]

not a raffle anymore when whale can get in a single entry more then half of all the tickets in, lol

[nimble belfry]

rigd s***

[modern bobcat]

well we could do a whale raffle and a poor raffle

[nimble belfry]

im geting out

[jade grotto]

Capped tiers would be a decent start. Players can enter the raffle they can afford to be in without worrying that some one put in 500x as many tickets

[modern bobcat]

so they'll compete the ""luck"" against other "" lucky "" as they are ?

[steady helm]

Winners are the people that sell the GT's...always has been

[mellow mural]

You are not competing against them. You are competing against the number of tickets. Would you feel better if all 4 million or so tickets were entered by a different person and you still have lost? I am so confused.

I didn't win anything today BTW.

[mellow mural]

And this.

[steady helm]

Especially at 6+ ATLAS per ticket!

[modern bobcat]

lol

come on

they yet creating new account to make this less hard to swallow for us

look at that other inactive account that got also 15k US of ticket

6eQQfWRrD3HtxzJHdh1Bf2gNnimWvZgazo6HbVWxPa3F

[jade grotto]

if all 4 mill tickets were entered by diff players, you wouldn't have a single person sweeping the prize pool. it would at least be split more evenly.

[steady helm]

He took a big loss actually...

[modern bobcat]

he won more then just a pearce D9

[lyric saddle]

Burn for the economic health of Galia, it is Iris's work

[steady helm]

For all the people complaining...go through the top 25 wallets and see ho wmany of them took big losses. You will be suprised.
hint: It's most of them

[mellow mural]

And why would it matter? I am sorry I am not being patronizing, I genuinely want to understand because I may be missing something.

[modern bobcat]

but, inactive wallet buying 15k of ticket.... its one same whale !

[steady helm]

Why does it matter? He spent the money. Money is money. And I sold nearly 50K tickets this round so good chance he gave me some of that cash!

[modern bobcat]

well whatever , im out of here

[jade grotto]

For the record, I'm not complaining. Simply stating that it's not fun to watch the same ppl win every week. that is all. I only put 100 tiks in this week lol. I was not expecting to win anything.

[mellow mural]

See you. Hope you come back later.

[jade grotto]

It doesn't matter one bit

[lucid path]

the #5 entrant put in $5k worth of tickets and won $2k worth of prizes

[mellow mural]

Well for small and medium players. I strongly recommend what Jay said above.

Sell the tickets to the whales. 🙂

[modern bobcat]

200 to 400k giveaway per week, but the system that randomize this is worth less then a buck ! lolll lets find out how the "comunity" can get over it now

have a good year everyone and wish u all health ! Take care

[mellow mural]

Welcome back! That was quick. ❤️

[sick iron]

IMHO, this is supposed to be good for the economy and the community, however every week it just seems to divide the SA community more between the have's and the have not's... and in the long term, i fear that the bad taste it leaves in many peoples mouths is detrimental to the whole project, I think something needs to be reworked here?!? @hazy hedge @amber jay @wispy widget

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[modern bobcat]

when you do crypto you never leave in the second lol

[polar wren]

You won 3 sledbarges , why are you upset

[modern bobcat]

Lolll tell me where and when, i never seen that

[polar wren]

What did you win ?

[modern bobcat]

absolutely nothing since the start

[lucid path]

different legion

[modern bobcat]

theres another guy that has his profile named Legion too

that doesnt help to make me feel more confident to be honest

how can they let 2 profile have the same name? thats the basic of a game isnt it?

so i can make an army of legion ingame !!! Yay

[pastel slate]

To be honest not allot of poeple are going to want to play if odds are like this with same named winners. It more about how any ticket can we put i to dominate the raffle.

8 weeks and the same names, does leave a bad taste

Just saying!

[modern bobcat]

only the small player will invite more people in here, whale dont have real friend so.. loll

if the small one are pissed, the bigger one wont get their tasty power trip mom promised them to have with money

thats where balance should come, well at least, just an illusion of balance please! 🙂

create more different profile whale come on!

[patent iris]

Will you be my friend?

[pastel slate]

There should be an entry limit!!!!

[modern bobcat]

only if you have money for me

hahahaha

[steady lily]

I’m not a big fan of gambling/whatever you want to call it, but then I see those massive casino’s

[uneven umbra]

And guys, do you have any suggestions to change this?

[modern bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-on-prime-fallout-prime-video-bethesda-maximus-gif-341377901427165611

[steady lily]

So I stay undecided and unbothered by the gambling thing

[modern bobcat]

said some earlier..

[pastel slate]

SET a limit of submissions

[steady helm]

Can just create multiple wallets

[lyric saddle]

Anyone able to host a multiplayer deathmatch atm? 👀

[pastel slate]

true but it will require work

[modern bobcat]

force the whale to pay more people to create more account to enter the poor range lol

[steady helm]

5 seconds to create a new wallet and transfer tickets to it

[uneven umbra]

Not really

Just some clicks and somw tranfers

[steady lily]

I’ve never had any luck asking like this, but I feels right

[modern bobcat]

whale hate to work ! they'll have to ask mom and dad

[pastel slate]

still work if you do it hundreds of time to fund it

[patent iris]

It worked for me in kindergarten

[steady helm]

That is a bunch of BS. They grinded hard to get to their whale status in a lot ocases. Literally such a dumb statement.

[lyric saddle]

When I click on host nothing happens

[modern bobcat]

some does! most dont

[mental relic]

I don't want to be the host, but it could be @uneven umbra

[steady helm]

Such an irrational unfounded statement.

[uneven umbra]

Oh i can't try now, i dont have my pc but how long have you been getting this error?

[mental relic]

[uneven umbra]

Lool

U can host, or are u having the same problem?

[polar wren]

I think the problem people have is that It's very +EV to deploy a lot of capital because of the big price overlay , It just pays off in the long run . Just need more players in general to enter .

[lyric saddle]

just today

well i didnt try yesterday

[modern bobcat]

you need to know rich people to be able to state that, you do money because you have money... spending money to get money isnt grinding, like we see in the raffle here !

[subtle kestrel]

whaaaaaaaaat????

[modern bobcat]

its nice they gave it to us i think! 🙂

[polar wren]

That's their lose , we bums have friends that's our wealth 😄

[steady helm]

Thanks...for that info. You definitely are right...I don't know any people with money! 🤣

PS. The only people that talk like this are the people WITHOUT money...fyi!

[modern bobcat]

hahahahaha sadly true

[polar wren]

I wish i could sell some of them tho

[mellow mural]

This will make some people happy in short term but the same people very very unhappy in the long term.
If you look at the daily active users we currently have. This will not create mining and crafting incentive in the game.

This will only work with a large population.

And can create more wallets

[modern bobcat]

hahaha theres a difference between money to spend and money saved somewhere else then in this game you know!

price of my house tripled, just saying i dont need more to say !

[steady helm]

https://tenor.com/view/have-fun-staying-poor-hfsp-gif-19805159

[uneven umbra]

Oh ok, I will try as soon as I can but I have no reports on this

[modern bobcat]

thanks !

[sick iron]

i did think that the suggestion someone else had about the prize pool being worth less money than the value of the total amount of tickets put in would be a good start. It would'nt be worth it to the whales to put in so much, amd the prizes would in theory be more distributed amongst the players.

[lucid path]

the #5 entrant lost thousands of dollars

[lyric saddle]

thank you ser

[mental relic]

In 1 out of 10 cases, you can't shoot, use grenades, or melee, as they deactivate with the second click. As soon as the team returns, we will report it, It happens both when facing bots and other players.

[modern bobcat]

yes i've seen your find on top player earlier, not saying everyone win today... just saying the random perk of the price picker is broken....

[steady helm]

It is worth less. The value is based on VWAP which is not nearly accurate since that is not what we pay for ships. The total "$400K" in prizes actually retails for like ~$50K and the value of the tickets was over $100K

[modern bobcat]

just saying 3 armstrong imp is 45k

[west slate]

yep as usual the winers are the people selling the tickets

[steady helm]

They typically sell for $11K

[modern bobcat]

ok

[subtle kestrel]

so pretty

[sick iron]

ok, i didn't do the actual math... again I am not against this...just trying to brainstorm for some sort of resolution/compromise.

[west slate]

the only real way to fix the problem is for more of the gameplay to be out

[pastel slate]

to be honest, it should be conducted differently. small gamers lkke myself look forward to these events but like i said it watching the sme winners for eight straight weeks make me now rethink these events. I pretty sure im not the only one.

[sick iron]

but I think we all know that this won't happen any time soon, so I think we should try and figure some sort of compromise

[nimble belfry]

im quiting selling all my ships after this bs

[west slate]

the thing is every sugestion would have very negitive long term consiquences for the economy

[pastel slate]

I thought about it too but the UE5 version will be muck better once up and I wont have to be bothered by these carnivals

[west slate]

note this is why I have always said if you want to make a living from this you need to invest multiple times your expected income

not realistic for most people

[tepid kiln]

Whales won ok... but 4 and 3 capital in row? It seems something isnt right... you have to see rewards random distributrd not concentrated...

[sick iron]

@amber jay @hazy hedge @wispy widget ...just look in the chat how many people feel burned and are threating to sell there assets!!! I truly feel this needs to be looked at for the good of the community!

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[nimble belfry]

for me this was a grate experiance and idea was cool , but i dont want to fallow this kind of bs

[sick iron]

says who???

[polar wren]

What a you suggesting ? That whales are just burning money in the events ? Somehow i doubt that .

[steady helm]

They are. Majority of people are negative returns. A few got lucky especially today.

[modern bobcat]

anyway, only a whale or a whale associated ( not to say friend 😛 ) would aknowledge that situation!

[lyric saddle]

I had experimental mode on, restarting game now to try with that off:

Update: cant host nor join another active game ( I do not see a game thats live right now in the menu )

[steady helm]

Go through the top 25 wallets and tell me how many made a profit this round.

[mellow mural]

Why leave? Just use your ships to sell the golden tickets. You will make a good profit.

[west slate]

anyone who actually knows economics

[sick iron]

i think for small players, even crafting a decent amount of GT is not really realistic, given some of the harder ingredients needed to craft?

[sick iron]

ur funny economics major

[tired sundial]

Imo there's something weird with hedgehog's odds causing rare low prob consecutive hits (also happened with me and Jose), repeated low prob "consecutive" hits usually show a failure in seed generation in random algorithms, 10% tickets would have meant 30% chance of hitting 1 IMP which turned into hitting all 3 IMPs (twice, counting 20% tickets consecutively hit 6/8 capitals), not impossible at all, just it's 0.2^6 = 2 in 1 million chance, 1 in 500,000

not complaining nor blaming the winners (happy for them, I wish I was one) or SA at all, and whichever the algorithm it behaves the same for all

but odds are totally borderline xD

[nimble belfry]

well when i see 1 player geting 3x ships of 30k each in row , its definetly not riged or somehow made up ...... i dont want to be part of this kind of shit

[mellow mural]

I recommend you check eveeye. There is a decent profit even if you just buy and craft.

[steady lily]

I don’t play the lottery, maybe I should have crafted tickets though

[sick iron]

anyways this is all wasted energy, because the people that need to be seeing this are on holiday... so goodbye all for now, gonna touch grass. Congratz to all the lucky winners!

[outer stump]

LFG!

[tepid kiln]

With 1500 bucks I can buy just 300 crew

[mellow mural]

Thank you for fighting what you believe in. Respect 🙏

[polar wren]

It doesn't matter if they won or lost , as long as it is +EV to enter whales will blast off their capital . You wouldn't enter with 100k capital if the price pool would be a sole airbike. I have not counted the value of ships , but i would no think people entering with a lot of tickets are that stupid . there must be an overlay .

[steady helm]

There are literally soooo many ways for small players. Go scan for SDU's. Sell those SDU's on the market and then buy tickets if you want. Or better yet...Sell the SDu's, buy the hard resources and mine the easy ones and craft the tickets.

People need to look at all the game loops. There are soooo many ways to play here.

[mental relic]

https://tenor.com/view/iota-iota-foundation-rick-and-morty-morty-im-in-gif-21733730

[tepid kiln]

Tickets are waste of money. Better put then a part. Something is very very odd...

[steady helm]

Absolutely. But just look at all the gamblers crying about losing in the raffle. If you want to make money gambling is NOT the way. My point is to focus on the other ways to play.

[timber hollow]

To create a lottery event that is fair for both large investors and smaller players, we should adopt the same principle as real-world lotteries, where the total value of the winning prizes is less than the total ticket sales. In the case of the Golden Carnival, the total value of the prizes is significantly higher than the total cost of the tickets, which allows bigger investors to make more profit. While it may seem fair in terms of the percentage return on investment, in practice, the majority of the prizes end up going to the wealthiest participants.

[pastel slate]

SDU take way too much time for a small player, economically not efficient.

[steady helm]

Easiest loop and biggest ROI return in game. Literally it takes 5 min to setup a Fleet and automate. And then you never have to do anything again except collect and sell your SDUs.

[outer stump]

6X as long; 6X as many; 1/6 the cost How can you say this?

[pastel slate]

maybe my scans were not that great as what your saying but not good on my tests

Need a big fleet to see a decent return whenscanning, small player not that great

[mental relic]

@outer stump 5 minutes 😬

[steady helm]

Look for high hit rates and set your Fleets there. SUPER easy...

[lyric saddle]

@uneven umbra problem identified: I launched the game from outside the Epic Games Library UI

[pastel slate]

Yes but no advantage when its saturated and scans results are 1-2 out of 10 scans

[steady helm]

A 20% overall hit rate is actually pretty decent.

[pastel slate]

10%

[tepid kiln]

I think we are over gambling discussion. Too often someone win big capitals awards only in a row... just concentrated on bigger rewards. I can't figure out how can it happens. So I'm out... I can understand luck...

[pastel slate]

add cost of turn travel not worth it

[steady helm]

Depends on your Fleet too, need more than just a few XXS ships. And if you are expecting big returns with a mnimal investment then I think expectations need to be adjusted.

[steady lily]

If the value of the prizes is higher than the cost of the ticket sales than it’s not a lottery at least not in traditional sense. It is after stripping everything away, a prize giveaway which to further strip it down… it’s marketing. Each participant is engaged in marketing, and is rewarded based on what they are willing to risk. If the lose, at least they had a chance. Not like they won’t lose with some of the crypto they hold (like that’s always a better option) but they had a chance

[sick iron]

U are assuming everyone that plays does automation... I for one do not, and therefore this loop is not viable

[steady helm]

Well then you are choosing to handicap yourself on purpose. Not sure what to say.

[pastel slate]

exactly, so saying its good for small gamers is not so

[lyric saddle]

deathmatch in pazul's arena live now!

[pastel slate]

Maybe UE5 will blind me to this side of the game, hopefully

[steady lily]

So on average you’re a paid marketer

[mental relic]

🫡

[steady helm]

There is a loop for everyone currently. What is your definition of a "small" player?

[sick iron]

well, for #1... I feel that its like a bot and kinda cheating. (like remember when we first only could scan and move and they said if we were using bots, we would be punished?) #2. I am waiting for the supposed SA automation that they talked about so I dont feel that I am risking my assets. I am not as technologicly advanced as many of U...and there are probably many others like me in the community that will only feel comfortable using an official SA automation product!

[steady helm]

Not cheating. The entire premise of SA is for the community to develop tools. That will continue in to the future. It actually still requires a LOT of manual work expecially for those of us with lots of Fleets. I automate everything and I still need to spend multiple hours every day tending to those Fleets. There are people with $1M+ of assets automating and they can attest to the safety as long as you do it correctly and as for skill any of us would be glad to help. There are also a ton of tutorials.

[mental relic]

👀

[lost crest]

How

[sick iron]

I understand and respect that... but again, I would prefer an official SA automation product instead of an aftermarket thing.

[modern bobcat]

you need rich friend! hahaha

[lost crest]

Talking refueling and stuff?

[steady helm]

Create a Fleet, run SLY automation with the Fleet scanning near the center of the map. Click the run button and then sit back and collect the SDU's daily. Ships return, refule and go back out all on their own as long as you keep the Starbase supplied.

[lost crest]

Sdus? I'm old school got my fleet enlisted for 996 days

[steady helm]

You need to actually play the game. That is not the game.

[modern bobcat]

bring em into sage, really worth !

[lost crest]

Ahha

[sick iron]

anyways...gotta go...nice civil convorsations everyone... No matter what, I still LOVE this F'ckin community and hope SA keeps growing and expanding! LONG LIVE GALIA!!!!

[lost crest]

I have 6 fleets of ships and just been refueling and ammo and stuff daily for like 3 years lol

[steady helm]

You have been basically breaking even for the past 500+ days when you could have made substantial returns in game.

[lost crest]

Oh had no clue

[steady helm]

There may never be one is what I am saying...
The next tool coming out called ATOM is also a community developed project.

[lost crest]

I randomly got like 19 airdrops of ship parts today so figured id come to discord to see what that was all about didn't see anything in announcments

[modern bobcat]

it is safe, if you want to make sure once setting are completed that nothing bad will happen just prevent it from auto updating thats all

[steady helm]

Next phase of the game when we get ship customization.

[steady lily]

I think if sly got massively hacked SA would pretty much have to freeze all the hacked ships and airdrop new ones. (or face annihilation or great setback to the project) Or, people would stop it before it got out of hand (maybe more likely but I’m not a hacker) so the odds are, you’d not get drained.

Even if you don’t mind the time or the tasks, you’re ships sitting, especially if you sleep for 8 hours straight, give sly players a way to drain you’re assets, which I don’t want to do to anyone so I recommend sly. But of course respect people’s decisions not to use

[lost crest]

Ah so I want to claim all this? And I have a bunch of crew packs do I wana select my own race or do I wana select all?

[steady lily]

I need try

[mellow mural]

We lost legion today and got turtle 😀
Funny world

[modern bobcat]

i knew you would like to be friend for real!

[mellow mural]

I'll wait for you brother. Come back when you feel the game is ready. ❤️

[modern bobcat]

sure, im setting my crypto before i leave and "eat popcorn" reading that here !

[outer stump]

I gotta go thanks for the games.

gg

[chilly tinsel]

it's one of those things "don't trust, verify". SLY is using the same permissions/smart contracts that the Atlas Prime hot wallet does. You sign all the permissions, and the ability to withdraw/deposit ships isn't included. It can only do in-game activities, but cannot withdraw ships, withdraw cargo, withdraw atlas, etc.

You should definitely look more into it though and ask questions. Verify for yourself the risk and decide whether it's worth doing or not

[steady lily]

Thanks good info. Yeah I just saw sly, aephia and other members worked on and checked code and that’s all I had time for and was good enough for me. But ships aren’t my main holding so

I’m polis holder

[mental relic]

99, 100 ...

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-seesaw-milhouse-gif-3722692

[steady lily]

Was thinking same, unbelievably civil

[uneven umbra]

Ooou okay, glad to hear that!

[placid laurel]

hi guys

[mellow mural]

Hello!

[uneven umbra]

Heyyy 👋

[lost rivet]

anybody having trouble moving crew in and out of Game?

i heard there was problems

[uneven umbra]

Heyyy! Are you able to see your crew at port of entry?

[lost rivet]

yes

try pulling to wallet and they disapear but then they are still in port of entry

[quartz ridge]

Guys, where can I find ATLAS NFTs?

[small laurel]

Guys what is it for ship parts

I dont understand this

[cosmic sky]

Gm

[vestal stream]

I have. I bought some crew on Tensor and had to clear my cache and cookies to import them through the port of entry. But I still can't see them in game.

Was there an annoucement on ship parts? Does anyone know when the snapshot date was?

[mellow mural]

https://play.staratlas.com/market/
( For crew ) https://www.tensor.trade/trade/staratlascrew

[mellow mural]

You will be able to custamize ships in the future. This bundle holds ship parts given to early ship buyers as a reward.

They cannot be used at this time.

[mellow mural]

Hello

[mellow mural]

Aug 8th I beleive

[lost rivet]

it was before they dropped crew

[mellow mural]

Where there is congestion on solana it may take few tries.

[vestal stream]

Dang. I've bought a few ships since then.

[mellow mural]

Same here, just have to work for them now 😄

[vestal stream]

Price just went up.

[uneven umbra]

Oh oaky, try this, make sure your atlas prime is off, try to use phantom/ledger, and move only 1 crew at a time

[graceful loom]

I managed to withdraw 1k crews 1 at a time with ledger

it was very fun

https://tenor.com/view/moku-hq-moku-moki-drinking-mate-drinking-mate-moki-mate-gif-2319748993210745750

[uneven umbra]

Here you can read the info about the components https://medium.com/star-atlas/into-the-shipyard-exploring-the-ships-framework-in-star-atlas-270f41e5b1be

[uneven umbra]

Wow, that's a lot

[mellow mural]

ouch, I think it allows a few now 🙂 still a lot of button smashing

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/sambueza-chino-juniorfc-mate-argentina-gif-23691938

[hoary steeple]

For the player today who just won ALL THREE Of the IMP Armstrong ships in the lottery, how many golden tickets did they submit? I'm looking at their address on solscan and not seeing a transaction for it.

[reef hawk]

dont bother always the same ones more or less , probably above 500 K per wallet , so you have to accept that there are ppl that have invested 100-s of thousands allready so dont bother just make your plan work ....

[hoary steeple]

Your answer is for people to not do analysis? Either be helpful or be quiet?

On my own account, under "balance changes" on solscan, I see the amount of golden tickets I spent as an outbound transaction. I do NOT see that for the account that won the 3 IMP Armstrong ships. Why??

[lucid path]

the page with the entrants info starstat[.]org/raffle/8 has been taken down but probably >250k tickets

[hoary steeple]

ok, but why can't I see their golden ticket transaction on the blockchain?

[lucid path]

no idea

[lucid path]

he/she/they might have crafted them..?

[hoary steeple]

of course they crafted that many

but don't you have to export the tickets from the game to your wallet ?

in order to submit them... ?

[modern bobcat]

https://solscan.io/account/4SFqGFo3KWx5TvjwFn7W9uWdSWmxLpxhRbqCfFiEmyrp?page=9#balanceChanges

in sol balance change

you will see it

page 9 , sorting em into 40 per page, you will see a min of 420k of ticket were used

[hoary steeple]

I see it now, thanks!

Wow, so less than 10% of the total amount of tickets submitted won all 3 of the best mining ships.

[modern bobcat]

this is one transaction, you need to continue scrolling until the begining of the week

i didnt check, it was pretty easy to see that throwing more then 15k $ in a draw make no sense for most of the player, and thats only one account, he might have way more then more account

[thick elm]

last time I spent any cent for GTs - 6 players won ALL top 15 ships - wtf

[modern bobcat]

if you buy and craft its something like 5k usd

[hoary steeple]

it looks like that was it - just the 420k, and he submitted 200k tickets 7 days ago (probably for the last draw).

what's weirder is that the ships don't stay in his account - they start bouncing around different accounts

[modern bobcat]

yep!

i think the same as you do!

[obtuse basin]

Is the whole game buggy or is it my device?

[timber hollow]

You can look at the tranaction which the GT was submitted and you will see the token account -> Bdp4PHAGhjL8P4bQ5UXA6pZHSQKnfgRMFaMqPn3mdXeU here you will see how much the GT has been submitted. Sorry that one is the first prize. the IMP Arm. is this token address -> BdcHSwzkrZbsYCJfKgrf5Twn88AsciHu4KT3wUk5R6xC

[hoary steeple]

Wow, it seems highly improbable what happened - 1 account with 10% of the tickets submitted wins all 3 of the best ships (IMP Armstrong), another account with 500k tickets submitted (11.5% of the total) wins another 3 out of the top 8 ships.

[dusky raptor]

Was the airdrop for the parts supposed to be equal to the amount of ships we had? or how did that work? Also my crew cards have disappeared

[mellow mural]

Are you playing starbased or Ue5?
starbased suffers from some blockchain congestion issues. So you have to re-try to have the txn flow through.
Ue5 is alpha, it has several bugs.

[drifting hedge]

Can't craft again in based. WTF is up

Been trying for hours to craft.

[drifting hedge]

Yea why didn't they just add ships to what we could build in based. Oh wait that's why. The raffle was provably fair. Ha

[uneven umbra]

Hey buddy! Try with the usual workarounds:

• Hard refresh - ctrl + f5
• Clear cache and try again
• Try different browser
• Try with a vpn

[mental relic]

[drifting hedge]

VPN won't even allow my solflare wallet to log in. And keep clicking phantom and nothing happens. Trying everything here

I will try to clear catch again

[dusky raptor]

the last ship parts just came in and my crew cards are back, not sure what happened there for a bit

[mellow mural]

Do you have priority fees on in starbased setting? That helps.

[drifting hedge]

Yes it's on

[dusky pecan]

how i can find the key

[ornate wharf]

okay we get the ship parts but we cant do anything with them yet? cant upgrade?

[drifting hedge]

Can't ever get the hotwallet to work

[modern bobcat]

look like a scam isnt ?

[drifting hedge]

What? Is this one of those scamers I was warned about

[lime lichen]

<@&809877248572260394> scam!!!!

[modern bobcat]

dont contact or talk with no one in private lol

or even try to claim airdrop

[drifting hedge]

God fking damn it if shit wasn't annoying enough

Wow just flooded with scamers now hunh

[uneven umbra]

Here #🔑┃game-access-key

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[gaunt panther]

So out of 4.2 million tickets Bourne Identity won 2 out of 3 Sledbarges? Rrrrrright... The ric get richer and the poor get poorer. I'm done with this shame promotion..

[drifting hedge]

I never made a single tix. Knew I would never get anything

[uneven umbra]

Hey, and do you have any suggestions to change this system?

[drifting hedge]

I bet he doesn't have a problem crafting those tix either

[mellow mural]

I was finally able to start a craft. I know, friend, it’s annoying, but remember—SAGE and Starbased were originally intended as testing tools to validate the blockchain game logic, which eventually became a core part of the Star Atlas offering. The team has worked incredibly hard to implement extensive game logic directly on the blockchain, which is revolutionary. It’s all baby steps, so let’s continue helping them stress-test it and make it even better.

Some days when I cannot get anything through, I just come back later. Less stressful 😄

[drifting hedge]

Been trying for hours. Cleared catch just now and yup. Nothing.

[mellow mural]

yup, time to touch grass 😄

On desperate days I try late night when the volume of txn is low and have better luck.

[drifting hedge]

Wow that fking sucks

[stark juniper]

One minute I tell myself, I probably shouldn't do GTs, but the next minute I am allin

[mellow mural]

1-800-gambler

[drifting hedge]

Ha now it's like nope you don't even get to try

[stark juniper]

sell all my ships and buy GTs? yolo

[mellow mural]

That tankship is nice

[drifting hedge]

I started playing honeyland and has it's own set of headaches. But not depositing 1000s of more into SA until it's fixed

[drifting hedge]

Yea they want that fire sale man. Don't give it to them.

[hoary steeple]

So the the guy who submitted 420k tickets had a 10% chance of winning one of the IMP Armstrong ships... and he wins!!! And then he has another 10% chance at winning another IMP Armstrong ship.... and he wins again!! Omg, wow! And then for a third time, he has another 10% chance at winning the third IMP Armstrong ship.... and he wins for a 3rd time in a row!!! Holy smokes! One thing is for certain, you don't want to be the only person standing with this guy in an open field in the middle of a lightning storm.

[modern bobcat]

didnt read well, tought we were talking about scammer lol

[hoary steeple]

lol. They say trust, but verify. But how to verify sir?

How exactly does the lottery selection system work, is there transparency ?

[modern bobcat]

well if this released is corrupted by any kind you would hear alot of noise coming from the comunity hehe

[hoary steeple]

I just want to be able to audit the lottery process & results for myself. Is there any way to do this?

[steady lily]

The system is fair, I’d craft some and play if I knew golden ticket would be around forever. That would give me more chances spread out over a longer period and I’d make money. I guess the issue people are having is a whale could buy all those chances today, win and if golden ticket is sunsetted in a year whale could win that game. (if the prize pool really is significantly larger than cost of tickets)

I am going to probably craft golden tickets now though, (along with a LOT of other people that seems like a win

[hoary steeple]

I'm totally fine continuing to submit a large number of tickets and never winning anything (improbable) if I can prove to myself that the process & results were 100% fair.

[steady lily]

But if I had 5-10 years to play it’d be more fair. Unfortunately you can’t predict duration

[unkempt thunder]

I've won very consistantly. But I've been putting in 10s and 100s of thousands depending on the week. I almost always break even or come up a bit if you look at existing player offer prices for the prizes.

[drifting hedge]

OMG GOT IT TO CRAFT. Tried clear catch and nothing. Both solflare and phantom. The game even gives me the popup you it worked check staff efforts. But it didn't. Tired on solflare app on phone. Says I don't have any Atlas. Tried on phantom wallet. A pain scrolling and cause of the tight space. But poof it crafted. Had to pay priority fee. Bs. But the craft after hours of trying has gone through. Wow they said this game would be challenging but never expected this.

[drifting hedge]

The collaboration with ftx makes me wonder how many of their employees work in the SA building.

[unkempt thunder]

I'm reasonably certain that the whales have realized that the total price pf the tickets deposited each week have been significantly lower than the MSRP prices of the prizes. They seem to then (as a whole) deposit just enough millions of tickets (as a community) to bring the total price of tickets up to a reasonable total cost to still be lower than the total prizes. I've not checked this math for each week, but the balpark math looks good. Knowing this math is why I've been willing to deposit between 1,000 and 100,000 tickets each week.

[unkempt thunder]

As far as I kow the smart contract is with the hedgehog people. Might ask them.

[hoary steeple]

That's good to know, thanks for sharing. Unfortunately, my own experience has been witnessing a large amount of improbability occurring with this lottery.

[drifting hedge]

Hrmmmm did the real vb send me a request

[crude pollen]

Did all ship owners get ship parts?

[unkempt thunder]

I've watched it every week and the numbers look reasonable. There are outliers where the whales loose the largest ships and a shrimp wins, and outliers like the IMPs today.

[austere briar]

Before the snapshot Yes

[drifting hedge]

I marked the other guy as a scamer. But is the vb one real???

[crude pollen]

When was the snapshot? I got the crew drop

[steady lily]

Only way I can think to make it “fair” would be to limit how many tickets a person can buy. Which mean you’d need some type of bot resistant real time proof of human system to verify for your allotment. Setting a small time frame to verify and making the applicant perform tasks that uh we think only a human can do. Otherwise it’s a POH chain which no one wants.

[polar wren]

It could have been you also , as long as it's rigged equally it's fine .

[unkempt thunder]

I think the crew snapshot is the same as the ship snapshot(?).

[austere briar]

Then you should have got parts

[crude pollen]

Awesome 😎 where do I claim and check can you remind me?

[drifting hedge]

Yea had to have been that's when they started saying parts didn't come with any ships

[unkempt thunder]

Play dot staratlas dot com under inventory

[austere briar]

It should be in. Inventory to claim

[crude pollen]

Thank you guys. I really love this community and you mods are the best!

[polar wren]

https://play.staratlas.com/inventory/

[polar wren]

Which mods are your favorite ones ? 😄

[steady lily]

You’d eventually still get a whale paying multiple people to verify accounts for them though, but would cut down on it drastically and this would cost a whale more and be too much of a hassle causing most of them to settle for their allotment or quit playing altogether.
Edit: During the verification process you could make the applicant paste the key to their (hopefully burner) wallet. With this you’d get less shenanigans. Easy

Again, I’m fine with it the way it is

[crude pollen]

Dude all of them haha. They’re super helpful always no matter who’s in here. I think I’ve had most interactions with @cold ledge

@limber steeple has helped me out a lot too

[steady helm]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[sick iron]

doubt it

[polar wren]

Truee , whole team is pretty chill , a nice place to be here definitely .

[winter jungle]

so ive had problems with sage transactions being slow or saying it went through and nothing happening.... always worked itself out with closing and reopening browser or even logging out and restarting laptop even.... its been days now and transactions are being approved instantly but nothing is happening... ive tried everything... anyone else having this problem? or any suggestions?

[polar wren]

It's the blockchain itself . That's why I am using both Solflare and Phantom wallets . When Solflare is not working (as you described ) i switch to Phantom - it has higher fees , but transaction usually get through .

[steady lily]

Just fyi, most times can probably save time disconnecting and reconnecting you’re wallet instead of restarting computer.

Also. I’ve had better success with solflare at 2-6am eastern time

And of course there is sly tool

[tepid kiln]

The statistics say that it is impossible... so many big wins in a row to the same address, 5 and 4 in rows with the bigger rewards... two times per address and many times before. It's nonsense. It isn't a whale game only, there is a "logic" in hedgehog/something that we don't know from my perspective. So it's a total waste of money... I feel dumb for thinking I could win a fair lottery. I won some small prizes, but when big prizes came in... something happened every time. Maybe the numbers are so large that the algorithm pushes whales more than correct. I don't know.

[drifting hedge]

Yea no kidding. He must be a fav of scamers to duplicate

[steady lily]

Seeing a lot of “this lottery” (or more aptly, marketing program) isn’t fair. Are people thinking that they just sent their faves some gifts? Obviously each player has the same percentage of winning per ticket. In that way it is fair. In other ways as I’ve said earlier, you could argue against it being fair for the small guy. But it’s not like they are just sending their favorite people gifts, I know these types of people, they don’t operate this way. It’s the way they where taught and it’s bad for business. Trust me lol. Not that I’ve looked at the random system they made or even checked to see if it was open source) I wouldn’t even think to ask if it is fair like I wouldn’t ask if my brother was trying to rip me off. Not to mention legal ramifications, for SA which is a very profitable business. no one is going to risk that for this simple little “lottery” They wouldn’t dream of rigging a lottery (I mean check the terms but no way) and i wouldn’t dream of even asking it’s such a far out thought

[tepid kiln]

Whitelist address that partecipated to previous events etc etc there are many way to limit whales... but I don't think it is the main problem when you have two address take 90% of big 8 prizes. With smaller prize the wins are more "naturally" distributed.

[steady lily]

If the prize pool is bigger than ticket cost, (sure if you’re going to spend a LOT of money on it ask some questions about the random system they made, ask if anyone can view the code, or what system do they use, ask if it was audited and who audited it.

Then if you found something off you could come here and accuse someone.

Anyway if you’re a small to smallish player like myself you just need a LOT of time, providing again the prize pool is always bigger than the cost of ticket, and maybe it could go on for some time if they find it’s a good marketing tool. Eventually SA probably grow to where it’s no longer that massive marketing tool and they get rid of it, or lower th prize pool, so yeah you might not have the time to do it. You could, if you could trust someone to hold your money for you, maybe through a guild, pool together as small players and win constantly through by combining you’re buying power. That’s only if it’s not against the terms, no idea. Or just don’t tell anyone just kidding but not like anyone would know or care

[valid estuary]

Anybody else having issues to claim the certificates from the local market?

[limber steeple]

I believe it's been an intermittent issue. see if reconnecting your wallet works of doing a clear cache/hard refresh will work

[chilly tinsel]

do you know if anyone's had this issue? before, all my ships in based showed up in UE5. now none of them are showing up anymore 🤔

[limber steeple]

in UE5?

[chilly tinsel]

yah, in the updated showroom

all the ships i had in based were playable. but after a day or so ago, they no longer are

[valid estuary]

I tried already everything, change browser, phantom, solflare. F5, restart+++. Over 1m unclaimable already. I had lost about 4k SDU (only) and tickets is still pending since Dec 12. Holidays are too long 🙂

[steady lily]

Yeah I like any verification/whitelist that forces one person to do some type of work during usually a small time frame. As long as they can’t didn’t white list a bunch of burner wallets

But I also want new players which is the main point of the ticket game. So a white listing from a while ago could rule them out

[limber steeple]

hhmm.. have you tried restarting the game?

[chilly tinsel]

and my computer

[steady lily]

Sometime it works 2-6am eastern on solflare. Can save up to make it easier if an option. The the “it’ll work one of these days during x timeframe” is my strategy

[limber steeple]

see if clearing your cache helps? or I suppose you already did that.

[limber steeple]

seems this was reported as an issue as well before

#👽┃general message

[barren magnet]

Yes same snap shot

[chilly tinsel]

that's a damn shame 🥹 would opening a ticket be the next move?

[barren magnet]

none

[mellow mural]

I think the support of based ships stopped working couple of updates ago.

[steady lily]

Even switching solflare to phantom might not disconnect you’re wallet. If you are on solflare try switching to a new wallet, but a new wallet within the solflare app, then connect again with you’re main wallet refresh browser each time

[barren magnet]

Can you @xcode me in your ticket? I'd like to take a look...

[chilly tinsel]

well, it was working right after the big update, then stopped again 🥹 nice while it lasted i guess

[serene willow]

Ohhhhh yeah. I had 950 UICs vanished yesterday. Simply pooooof! Not even the certificates show up anymore.

@barren magnet wanna try to sort mine as well? 🙈

[barren magnet]

Feel free to tag me in your ticket as well. I'll take a look when I get a minute.

[steady lily]

I haven’t tried claiming certs yet. Maybe sage idk

[idle yew]

If the snapshot happened when ships were in sage do we still get the parts?

[limber steeple]

should still be, yes.

[soft hatch]

Your Atlas Brew Code? How get?

[fleet vortex]

This is my first hearing of the Ships Part Snap Shot cut off date. Seems unfair for those who have been here for months!! At least give us some compensation!!! Knowing that was a factor would have changed the way I purchased ships!!

[limber steeple]

See if Food still works

[limber steeple]

the snapshot was the same one as the crew airdrop

iirc

and it was as mentioned in the announcement, that it was at the early part of the year

[fleet vortex]

I came back during that period so it felt normal. I decided to go all in not knowing about this!!

[limber steeple]

these were well explained and shared by the team:
https://medium.com/star-atlas/crew-packs-and-star-atlas-airdrops-are-coming-in-august-important-dates-utility-in-sage-labs-a261baa7a3b6

#📢┃announcements message

[limber steeple]

this is the exact announcement sharing the actual snapshot date and the team literally giving when it will be taken

#📢┃announcements message

[fleet vortex]

And was never mentioned again. I wish I would have known. It would have been a factor. Or if the drop would have happened the same time as the crew, my parts would have been part of my purchases then. Hopefully weapons won't be needed any time soon!! Thank you. I'm venting.

[full crater]

Cylon here. my 2 cents, I actually did better than the other whales so I have nothing to complain about, I even won 2 D9's one week back to back. I do feel there should be a verifiable random number generator just to keep people at ease. I know anomalies can and do occur.

In crypto its Trust but verify. I learned that lesson from celsius

[serene willow]

A public shoutout to @barren magnet for being VERY helpful on tracking stuff down in-game. Finally found out what happened to some vanishing UICs, that actually didn't vanish. Thanks, bro!

[steady lily]

I know, but imagine what you’d be risking if you rigged it and for what. Are you going to do all the airdrops yourself as the owner/s couldn’t have an employee do it they might tell someone and have proof.

[mortal lark]

Not to belittle your frustration, but since the snapshot was taken there is a pretty noticeable banner on the marketplace that says this disclaimer.

[steady lily]

I don’t know how they do it but I assume it’s fair because it’s be too risky not to be

And because they are good people like I said

[chilly tinsel]

i just assume that i need to pray harder to the rng gods

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pray-rngesus-beg-gif-14727259

i have never won btw 🥹

[steady lily]

Ahh!

[full crater]

4.2 million submissions this week almost double from last week. I noticed Ritor and Bourne Identity absolutely cleaned up, were they monster whales or something? Didnt get a chance to check the numbers.

[fleet vortex]

It is what it is. I like the potential of this game. I'll adapt.

[steady lily]

It is slightly disturbing but useful

[charred flax]

The guys who got the airdrop deserve it, because the price of the ships back then were much more expensive then they are now

[chilly tinsel]

if you want to be nosey, you can check their wallets and see how many tickets they submitted. if you submit more, you definitely have more chances, but there's also the rng factor. i really want to see the person that submits 1 or 69 to win

[steady lily]

Well of course Bourne is going to win! I’ve watched every movie. 20 times

[valid estuary]

Finally it worked now. Cleared again C&C and restarted. The certificates are claimed. Puhh.

[steady lily]

Yes!

[valid estuary]

Thanks mate Ticket ID: 675a1fb85b29d8a24b52014c

[fluid ibex]

Yo, gm here

[sick iron]

sorry but DYOR... the info is there, crying and asking for compensation is a bit "Karen" like...🙊

[fleet vortex]

Thank you. Noted.

[lucid path]

bourne was #1 ticket holder with 500k Ritor was third if memory serves with ~250k

[winter jungle]

why are some ship parts selling for ridicously low prices while others in same class and same price range going for way more? do we have any info on these parts and do they all do the same thing for their respective ships?

[polar wren]

They just got airdropped and nobody has any idea what is their actual worth , that's why pricing is so random.

[gloomy elbow]

I get this error whenever I trying to sell ICs..

[lucid path]

theres probably some deals as a result

[upper owl]

the question what is the real price and if we can graft it

[lucid path]

which parts look ridiculously low priced to you? if i may ask

[west slate]

there is no real price, I mean I guess its based off of vwap, however the team has been clear that vwap is the actual hull vwap so unless that changes the value of these can be litteraly anything

[upper owl]

yeah

[west slate]

obviously an xxs fitting would likely not be worth more then 5 usdc but that would be regardless of if xxs ships went back up to 20

however I would not be suprised if the fittings for the bigger ships were going for the current price of the ship or more

[polar wren]

In the future parts will craftable i think

[west slate]

yeah, however we will need these to set up our stuff out the gate

[upper owl]

have many ships i acquire after so is going to be some demand hope we can get them for fair price

[west slate]

also remember that when we have combat we will need to replace components

so there is actually a point in having more then you need potentially

[upper owl]

nice point

good night !

[west slate]

we also need to remember there will be rpg progression aspects so t1 xxs components should be easy to make anything t2 may take a while to start being made, that scales up with the size of the ship

[vestal stream]

Is getting crew into Starbased still broken? I brought some in I bought from Tensor hours ago through the port of entry and they haven't shown up in my crew section yet.

[vestal stream]

I got them through port of entry by deleting my cache and cookies, but now they don't show up in the CSS. They got lost.

lol

[thick loom]

Are you using Phantom or Solflare? Try both and give it a few seconds to complete the txns.. if issue persists, raise ticket my friend

Looks good on my end.. normally i try both n may quite take couple of seconds but less than a minute to push through

[steady lily]

I guess we don’t necessarily need an ai agent, just need to have a sage troubleshooting guide pop up on here every x amount of time

Agent would be good for many other things though. Although maybe quicker than a sage guide in some ways. But a guide would be good for now, my 2 bits

[drifting hedge]

Can't claim what I have crafted now. Been trying over a hour on browser. Tried clear catch. VPN no VPN. Wallet phantom wallet solflare. He'll even went into wallet browser to try to collect there but there is a nice little blocker Simi clear element that won't even allow me to click it. Now I know some mofo is chomping at the bit to say it's not made for android. Nha it seems they made stuff in the way just for android. But hey everytime I try to collect crafting I get the popup that says it's collected and sent to your invo. But wait it's not. It lying just like most of the help here. Wondering how whales even made the 500k tix to win most everything when I can't even get one thing crafted and collected. What do you got to be on the priority list for the game to allow you to play otherwise your completely fked!? This is crap programming and they claim it's to iron out all the glitches. He'll labs ran easier then this. At least I could launch a fleet and get some resources. I can't even dream of getting resources here cause nothing fking clicks. It says it did but it don't. And they say clear catch, try a different browser, this try that. But it's not gonna fking magically fix it because it's their bs programming.

Look at the bottom if android the work around to having to play it on browser. A nice little see through box covering up your crafted items. So you just can't even try on android

That won't stay at the bottom of the screen like it's independent from the element

Either they did it on purpose or they don't know what they are doing. Or they can't fix it. Either option is messed up

Who ever wants to say it's not made for android. WELL ITS NOT MADE FOR BROWSER EITHER ASS HOLE

Go ahead and pull out your offended stick and mute me again. Don't have anything else to say to ya.

[steady lily]

I’ve had success with solflare on android. I switch from my main wallet to another wallet, refresh browser, switch back to my main walket. Disconnecting and reconnecting the wallet like this might work.

I switch to another wallet within solflare, that part is important

It also seems to be a good time to for transactions from 2-6 eastern as I might have said before.

[lost rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-frustration-computer-computer-says-no-fat-woman-gif-17569047711000419372

[lost rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-fran-healy-frustrated-frustration-frustrating-gif-27551114

[lyric saddle]

Keep trying ctrl + f5 friends

I had challenges yesterday though Ctrl + f5 did end up working

[upper kettle]

will parts be interchangable with ships of the smae class size? (for example can maxhog parts be used in a fimbul lowbie and vice versa?)

[drifting hedge]

I have been trying for 4 hours. I don't even try to send ships out anymore cause it's the same fking bullshit

[cold ledge]

yes the swappable ones

right now its bundles, so interior and utility probably not

[drifting hedge]

Yea man this fuking sucks. Hey but at least they could set up a raffle for all their friends that can make 100s of thousands of tickets with absolute ease.

[pure fractal]

how to claim airdrop guys

[cold ledge]

https://play.staratlas.com/inventory/

press claim

make sure you on the right site

dont take any direct messages scammers watching

[mossy zenith]

gm guys

[pure fractal]

yes ser

[stiff shore]

Is anybody wise having trouble loading Star Atlas in Phantom?

[cold ledge]

on the phone?

[granite jungle]

Cheap ship parts in marketplace !!

[cold ledge]

dont take any direct messages, scammers and impersonators will target you

[stiff shore]

Yep

[stiff shore]

Any suggestions?

[cold ledge]

where does it get stuck, you cant load the site or connect or txn failing?

[placid cypress]

Someone knows how to check sdu's percentages of success on the map on eveeye?

[cold ledge]

top left mapconfig then sector

[azure anchor]

Interior and utility cant be swapped nor upgraded.

[cold ledge]

yes, as written in the article

[obtuse basin]

How do I know which version I downloaded from the Epic Games launcher?

[stiff shore]

Can’t load the site. And when I load on chrome browser, it doesn’t offer Phantom wallet connect

[cold ledge]

try clear the cache in the phone settings

[runic summit]

I haven't got any ship parts airdrop?

I have two ships in my wallet since the first day of their release

[cold ledge]

sometimes its a bookmark issue try this link maybe https://play.staratlas.com/

[cold ledge]

clear the cache in the browser or try a hard refresh (hold crtl + press f5)

mayke sure its the right wallet, the wallet where you had the ships during the snapshot

dont take any direct messages scammers will target you

team is in holidays, so in january you could open a ticket again and we can doublecheck your wallet

[serene willow]

Vb, is crew importing working in general? Or too many reports of it being broken?

I need some more crew, but have been avoiding buying it...

[cold ledge]

often its just a delay before they show up in sage

but in the last days we had a few cases

[serene willow]

Great. From buying packs and opening straight into Sage, right?

I can't stand Tensor...

[cold ledge]

yeah seems no real difference, just takes a while before they show up

[serene willow]

Ok, great.

[cold ledge]

i would try a small amount first to test

[serene willow]

Oh yeah, it will be a small amount anyway. Like, 20 crew or something

At least for now

[cold ledge]

its always hard to tell, since most people do not report back when it works 🙂

[serene willow]

Haha indeed

[cold ledge]

ah yeah i would open them normally, so even is sage is slow you can trade on tensor

[serene willow]

Ugh, Tensor...

😶‍🌫️

[cold ledge]

well or magic eden, but i like tensor more

[heavy flume]

hi I have a question, last 2022 I bought a ship cant remember how to sign but I believe I do have my account. Can anyone help me

[cold ledge]

did you stake it in the faction fleet maybe, or you have it in the wallet?

[heavy flume]

faction fleet I guess

[cold ledge]

https://play.staratlas.com/fleet/

either there or in the inventory

[heavy flume]

is there a inventory there? Sorry I forgot about it haha