👽┃general

[magic arch]

hi, does anyone know how much funding Star Atlas has raised up till now?

love the game

[cold ledge]

Hi, you find stats about primary market sales here https://flipsidecrypto.xyz/Aephia/star-atlas-economy-daily-analysis-xGXyHF

total funding is hard to determine, best ask in #📊┃economics maybe

[torn crest]

Gm 👋

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

<@&809877248572260394>

[deep nymph]

just tried SAGE Labs. Experience is horrible with all the bugs (commands not issued, constant signatures, there were two accounts created,...). I spend cca 10$ just in transaction fees to move around a bit and to mine some Iron ore. I bought 1 XS ship 13$ and 2 crew 10$ for it and some resources 1$. All together cca 33 $. This is an amount I pay for AAA game and have some fun. This thing needs serious work...

[cold ledge]

everything is a solana txn 0.00005, except solana token account creation, these are 0.002, but you get the token accounts back as soon you close them, its an automated process, so as soon you interact with any asset it creates token accounts, same goes for fleets and cargo
so each time you transport or mine things, cargo token accounts get created for your fleet these usually get closed when you unload, but when you disband a fleet a message will pop up in the starbase that you have open cargo accounts when you press it you get the solana token/renting account fees back

[cold ledge]

for small players its very tough i recommend this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJTNQ5x-loI

[deep nymph]

thx for explanation hope I get some SOL back but it is still tedious

[mortal lark]

The game in its current state in SAGE is not for casual gaming. Everyone participating in SAGE is doing so because of the profits, and unfortunately the entry barrier is quite high, currently sitting at around $500-$1k minimum to make it worth your while.

The backbone of the in-game economy is being built, and most participants in SAGE are the engines. And we also help with revenue stream for ATMTA through marketplace fees, and primary sales on the marketplace.

But if you are looking for a AAA experience, that is still going to be a ways out, so keep watching this space, maybe in the not too distant future there is something more to your liking to play in UE5

[deep nymph]

understandable I just hope they found a way to make it fun to play and not only "PlayToEarn" Since the model does not work well....

[limpid isle]

https://tenor.com/view/good-meowning-cat-good-morning-cat-sleepy-eepy-gif-26327527

[mortal lark]

This that you're saying is 100% important, what is being built here is very different from your typical "p2e" crypto game, the game in its current state is a means to an end, and by no means is the product in its final state.

game development takes years, we are so early, and privileged to be so deeply involved in the development process. But understandably, that is not everyone's cup of tea.

[limpid isle]

More of a spreadsheet game ❤️

[tardy patio]

GM

[wispy widget]

GM

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-day-happy-2022-gif-24723900

[quartz arch]

Where can I suggest game feature ideas.

[cold ledge]

#👑┃sage #💥┃ue5-game

[wispy widget]

#1296922448167567480 as well

[plain trellis]

I remember having some ATlas staked on the times previous to SOL , what should I do to recover them?

[torn crest]

where did you stake your atlas? In the locker on govern.staratlas.com ?

[native grail]

Please Who has the code for today

[uneven umbra]

Heyy! Not available yet

You can get the code in this event https://discord.com/events/789226204980707409/1309406538967814154

[wispy widget]

https://x.com/at_mwagner/status/1861805568710824163?s=46

Go support!

SW4GN3R, CFA (@at_mwagner) on X

@elonmusk @xai You should chat with us at ATMTA, building @staratlas. We’re creating a space adventure MMO, onchain, and fully decentralized (over time).

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 4:13 PM

[cold ledge]

we game tonight @atomic bramble ?

[uneven umbra]

[uneven umbra]

What are you going to play?

[cold ledge]

not sure, last night we played hearts or iron

[loud mural]

Nope i can't select the crew in the port of entry, it doesn't get yellow also if i click on it

[cold ledge]

#ticket

do not take any direct messages

scammers will target you

[atomic bramble]

Hoi?

[normal finch]

hey guys, anyone else having issues with inventory not showing up in SAGE?

[torn crest]

Seems to work for me.
You did the usual (hard refresh, browser restart)?

[mortal lark]

do you have available crew to craft with in SAGE ?

does your available crew at CSS show 0 ?

[toxic skiff]

probelm in sage again ? @polar idol @cold ledge

[cold ledge]

not sure, i have no issues at the moment, do a ticket maybe?

[toxic skiff]

I have pa and ra in my wallet but the inventory says that I dont have them in the wallet

[polar idol]

Same for me everything is working rn

[polar idol]

please #ticket

[upper cipher]

export 1 from the game to your wallet and back

normally fixes this issue

[toxic skiff]

nothing fixed for me

[deep nymph]

Local inventory does not show correct amount of items on MUD-2. If I check on atlas-eveeye it is the correct amount?!

Maybe you could hire the people who made the other site

[uneven umbra]

Try with the refresh button

Or a hard refresh

ctrl + f5

[deep nymph]

At some point it started to work - I delete cookies and refresh many times also reset browser. Why do I have 2 accounts when I log in?

[umbral jacinth]

Does anyone know a trustworthy solama air drop checker?

[uneven umbra]

It's a bug, for re-creating another account in based, we hope to have a fix for it soon

[valid yoke]

There's the one Brian is associated to.....

It never seems to show me anything anymore tho

[uneven umbra]

Hmm

Maybe airdropped.link

[uneven umbra]

Helloooo rat

[valid yoke]

Ya that's the one Brian is associated with I think

[umbral jacinth]

Are you sure that is trustworthy?

[valid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-wave-hi-hello-cute-gif-15484092

[dense eagle]

Is starbased down for anyone else? all my xsctions are getting rejected and have been for the past 5 mins

[valid yoke]

You definitely don't connect your wallet or anything to it. But Like I said, it never shows me anything anymore and I've gotten a couple airdrops it said I wasn't eligible for too

[umbral jacinth]

Yes but you need to login and provide your email etc

[uneven umbra]

https://www.airdropped.link/ this but DYOR

And dont connect your wallet in any site

Just paste your public address

[uneven umbra]

Its kinda laggy, try a hard refresh ctrl+F5

Or clean cache and try again

[umbral jacinth]

You need to login. Unless I create a fake email just in case. As less info you provide to this scamming mother fu*krs the best!

@uneven umbra @valid yoke thanks anyways

[uneven umbra]

If nothing helps, try a ticket #ticket

[uneven umbra]

Oh yah, true

Well, try with a burner email if u dont want to link your personal email

[uneven umbra]

[valid yoke]

🙂

[solar elk]

Hi everyone, I want to bring my ship into SAGE LABS, but I don't see it in wallet inventory, Do you know why I don't see it?

a premise shortly before I had removed the ship's account token by mistake

I currently see the ship in the wallet but sagelabs does not see it

[west slate]

put a 1 atlas bid up for the ship on the market that should reopen the token account

if you closed that account that could be the problem so try that first

[uneven umbra]

Yeap that's correct

[solar elk]

thank you very much, I thought I had lost it

[sinful swallow]

Where do I find this meme swag coin people are starting to talk about? LOL

The logo alone looks worth the purchase lmao

[torn crest]

@chrome garden is the mind behind this

[sinful swallow]

Do you know the coin address? ill hit him up

[west slate]

get it from the source to make sure its correct

[torn crest]

Nah I shouldnt give out this info as a mod (not that I have it). Best to ask him 🫡

[chrome garden]

True dat

[sinful swallow]

Understandable

[dense eagle]

opened a ticked. i'm used to the prework by now so this is all post F5, reboot, cleared cache, etc

[keen summit]

sonar . watch has a portfolio tracker, points tracker and airdrop tracker

[uneven umbra]

Oh okay okay, I hope it can be fixed

[uneven umbra]

Ohh okay, that's cool, I'll check it out

I didn't know sonar had that option

[wild osprey]

Did anyone in MUD have any thoughts about the re-placement of resources

MRZ-4 was usually stocked with food so was a decent hub to craft

[uneven umbra]

Oh lol, deleted

[digital osprey]

who cares? labs is a sol drain and a soul drain, i'll check back in 1 year when i get rich off $cockinswag coin

[uneven umbra]

Hmm I'm not sure how the mud side strategies are going now

[stoic viper]

yeah I used MRZ-4 as my main hub for building electronics, so not ideal, but adapt or die i guess

[wild osprey]

Yep I'm pretty sure there was a whale feeding the food there but I guess it will go to the other side of the map now

[uneven umbra]

I understand your frustration and as I said before, sometimes automation tools help in this, but well, as you know sage is in very early stages of development and still has a long way to go

[serene willow]

Are the changes live already?

[stoic viper]

good thing will be when local markets go live

ive got loads of copper stockpiled at MRZ-4 already 😆

[uneven umbra]

Hmm I don't think so

Still 30 mins to go

Or something close to that

And hi buddy

[serene willow]

But is Labs down meanwhile?

(not at home, can't check)

[serene willow]

Hey Stick! How's it going, my friend?

[uneven umbra]

It seems to be working

But kinda laggy

[hazy hedge]

Should all be live now!

[uneven umbra]

All good fam, drinking some mate and writing some stuff

And u?

[uneven umbra]

Lets goooo

As you wish, we'll be here!

[serene willow]

Just finished some work. Now off to do some work in Iris. 🙈

And of course have a well deserved cold beer. Rough week...

[uneven umbra]

Ooo cool

https://tenor.com/view/mind-over-matter-facebook-fitness-memes-viral-workout-gif-14382358

[serene willow]

Ohhh yeah

So, just to be sure. Version is 3.0.199?

[uneven umbra]

Well deserved

Some time to relax

[regal crest]

My shipping ships started using extra fuel, is anyone experiencing this problem?

[serene willow]

Man, shitty week. Car broke down in the middle of the uphill highway. 🥴

[regal crest]

My shipping ships are using extra fuel, has there been any change?

[wild osprey]

Mrz-3 shows as having biomass, iron ore, copper ore and carbon

That right?

[serene willow]

Read announcement

[hazy hedge]

#📢┃minor-announcements message 🫡

[regal crest]

My trucking fleet is using more fuel than usual, does anyone know why this might be happening?

[whole moth]

something seems off about the amount of my fuel consumed as well, less in CSS than i was expecting but have not investigated any further

[regal crest]

Between Oni 5 - CSS 2packlite 1 om 1r8 goes 30k fuel, it was less before

[whole moth]

same, i had a script hauling resources back to CSS and noticed fuel was low

[errant quiver]

true, all my fleets are stuck now with not enough fuel

[regal crest]

Fuel consumption of ships may have changed

There was a 2% increase

It was 18% used, now it is 20%

Maybe no one noticed this situation

[wispy widget]

Ooof

Happens

[serene willow]

🤷🏻‍♂️ all good, just sucks when it happens... Never a good moment for it! 🫠

[serene willow]

@barren magnet any word on this? If it's true, we might see a full halt due to SLY using old values? I'm not sure if it does an active check every time, or just uses a set value based on distance. 🤔

Hmm scanning is behaving weirdly for me.

[hazy hedge]

Can you expand?

[serene willow]

1306119996371501067 scammer id
<@&809877248572260394>

[serene willow]

Will let it run a few more times to elaborate better.

Well, after fuel bug is fixed

🙂

[uneven umbra]

Banned, thanks for the heads up

[uneven umbra]

Ohh nah bro

I hope you can fix it soon

[serene willow]

Done. Fuel pump. 😵

[digital osprey]

imma check back in a few months dog but for now

[uneven umbra]

Ohh cool cool

[hazy hedge]

Holding the L proudly bro ty

[digital osprey]

still like the project mind you

[serene willow]

Btw: awesome change on scanning. Really really good, absolutely no downside to it. Emissions remain similar, fees drop by 5/6! 🙏🔥

Just need to check if it's actually working, haha

[hazy hedge]

I know brother we like you too 🫂

[serene willow]

Will wait for the fuel patch to go up, and restart everything.

[hazy hedge]

Glad you like it!!

[wild osprey]

so basically MUD is rekt by the moving of the hydrogen/copper mining base into the middle of nowhere to the right of the map

[digital osprey]

ey bruv don't make it painful

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-tear-lonely-emotional-gif-17279066

[polar wren]

The main purpose for sdu change was to try to fix the transaction costs as far i can see ya ?

[hazy hedge]

You rn

[hazy hedge]

Yep exactly, helps the scanning career for a couple reasons but a main one is to reduce the burden of solana fees

[polar wren]

Big W then 💪

[limpid isle]

Seems like a reasonable change 🚀.

[serene willow]

It's really good

[digital osprey]

full disclosure, I think starbased labs is draining my sol on txn's i aborted to chase 50x memes, will i be welcomed back?

[serene willow]

Now we need a similar one to mining/freighting. But that one would be more complex to implement.

[hazy hedge]

You can come back anytime you want brother

Go chase those memes sir

[digital osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/abort-mission-self-eject-bye-gif-12172315

i'll be back

[wild osprey]

Did these recent changes go through community governance / polis voting?

[polar wren]

Now it probably makes sense to have more fleets for scanning .

Split into smaller ones

[spiral ravine]

All my resources and ships are missing from MRZ4. Even after hard refresh

[hazy hedge]

It did not, this first stage of DAO voting is more centered around treasury management, events, ecosystem support, etc.

[serene willow]

I would still keep it at the 150 (ish) SDUs per scan.

[limber steeple]

see if clearing your cache will help

or give it some time to reflect in the frontend

[polar wren]

Maybe you know if this change was announced before ?

[spiral ravine]

what were the actual changes to MRZ4? my entire economy/existence was built on it

[polar wren]

There is 92 piece order on Ambwe from 2 days ago

Kinda weird

[serene willow]

Not to me... I'm not even in Foundation Room. But yeah, I've seen some big players looking for scanning ships recently.

Although anyone with sizeable fleets not scanning, at least a little, is missing on future RFR. 🫣

[cinder stag]

Biw win for the team

Big

Mud has equilibrium now. Thanks for listen us finally

[limber steeple]

sharing the recent changes where MRZ4 was included:
#🩹┃patch-notes message

[mortal lark]

When possible, please pass on to the team to update the ship spreadsheet to reflect the update on the SDU/scan stat. thanks 🙂

[hazy hedge]

Appreciate the kind words Maneco ❤️

[mortal lark]

Awesome update btw

[hazy hedge]

Thanks Sask, will also relay the spreadsheet stuff

❤️

[spiral ravine]

Did copper get removed from MRZ4? if so may be rent acct info problems with fleets.

[serene willow]

@hazy hedge bro, do you know who is im charge of the spreadsheet with all ship's stats? Maybe update the scan values/cooldown/food consumption? 🙂

[worthy comet]

whats going on at MRZ-4.. I cant mine copper

[hazy hedge]

Yup! That's what Sask asked as well, the team is out for Thanksgiving so might not update until Monday but we'll change it 🫡

[serene willow]

Oooops, missed this. 🙃

[indigo matrix]

can you share what was the problem before this update?

[serene willow]

A quick public service announcement: everyone using SLY for scanning, multiply your regeneration cooldown by 6x, or you'll waste SOL trying to scan while still on cooldown. 🙏

[polar wren]

The stats on eveeye are updated btw .

[topaz pine]

which setting is this?

[topaz pine]

scan regeneration delay?

[serene willow]

Yep. And make sure your strike count is higher than 1, if you move while scanning. Different issue, we'll need an update on SLYA for this. For now, set it to 2+.

Otherwise, it will fail, move, and attempt to scan while still on cooldown.

[topaz pine]

my delay is 0. rip

[serene willow]

It will anyway. But if strike is set to 1, it locks itself failing and moving endlessly

[serene willow]

Oh crap, you're wasting sol

Regen delay = your fleet scan delay

[topaz pine]

thats only after finding an SDU

[serene willow]

Get it from the spreadsheet, and make it 6x (because of update)

Wait, SLY reads the fleet's delay automatically?

[polar wren]

Labs working for you ?

[topaz pine]

yeah should be. there isnt any stats for ships in the code

[serene willow]

Hmm

Still, we need an update now

Cause now it subwarps faster than the fleet delay

When it arrives, it attempts to scan, while on cooldown

And hits 0%, counting as a strike

[serene willow]

It was, but just now I got several ix error

[normal finch]

is labs messed up?

[spiral ravine]

What's a good number to set it at?

[hazy hedge]

Had some downtime bro

Should be fixed now though

[normal finch]

cool

restarting sly

How you doing @hazy hedge

[hazy hedge]

Good bro wbu??

[serene willow]

Now, I don't know. I was matching it to my fleet's cooldown.

[normal finch]

I'm doing alright

[valid yoke]

I'm struggling to visualize the MRZ changes for some reason

[normal finch]

taking the rest of the week off for Thanksgiving and my bday on Saturday

[valid yoke]

It seems like not much has changed. But maybe I'm crazy?

[serene willow]

Might as well set it to 0, cause apparently I was doing it wrong.

Just make sure strike count is 2+

[hazy hedge]

Bro!! Happy early birthday. Doing anything fun?

[normal finch]

actually about to start planning something now

crept up on me man... this has been a fast year

[peak glacier]

confirmed its fixed now.

[hazy hedge]

Tyty for the confirmation!

[tall pier]

hi guys is this game p2e?

[hazy hedge]

Don't forget to celebrate yourself my man

[hazy hedge]

Play 2 earn? Yes.

[tall pier]

yea play 2 earn can i get lil bit of guide ?

[normal finch]

For sure. Same for you Dom!

gotta take some time for yourself!

[tall pier]

i have ryzen 5 3600 and gtx 1650 can i play it ezly?

[valid yoke]

Sort of, you do have to spend some money to get started tho

[tall pier]

how much ?

[valid yoke]

I'd say a safe minimum to just get started would be around $50-$100 at absolute minimum

[normal finch]

Also, bro we should play some games soon! you still rocking OTG? @hazy hedge

[valid yoke]

Now would I reccomend that low???

No I would not

[tall pier]

is it necessary ?

[spiral ravine]

MRZ4 and MRZ6 switched resources for one. I think they increased the richness at MRZ6 but its an extra 2 warps to the CSS and back compared to MRZ4

[tall pier]

or can i also do something without investing?

[valid yoke]

You get nothing for free to get you started here

[tall pier]

shesh

alr thanks for your time ❤️

[serene willow]

To earn, no less than $500. More like $1k to start.

[valid yoke]

You could play the UE5 stuff and try to wait for some events to get some stuff for free

[tall pier]

thanks @valid yoke

[hazy hedge]

Give this video a shot, bit dated but onboarding into SAGE Labs isn't very easy atm. Give this a watch and ask as many questions as you want. Promise it's worth it 🙂

https://youtu.be/ST2k1CYglsI?si=M79rYsH7oDNCwSLl

[hazy hedge]

I'm down 1000%, grinded a lot of OTG with swagner. Down to run some with you too!!

From @peak glacier

[valid yoke]

That is much closer to the minimums I would recommend

[peak glacier]

thanks Dom !!!

[hazy hedge]

This is sick @peak glacier

[peak glacier]

what can i say, I like making spreadsheets 😛

[valid yoke]

There is truly something peaceful about it 😛 Especially ones that do the calcs so you can change values in them lol

[cinder stag]

all factions had R4, essential resources in both sides, mud was extremely concentrated on left side, medium sized players couldnt be alone on right alone because of food, was not viable stay on right side without supply of food

[waxen socket]

Hey guys

[polar wren]

Hey ! What's good

[limber steeple]

sup!

[thick loom]

Any issue on Copper Ore MRZ-4 sage showing System Richness as 0? Other starbases js showing fine

[limber steeple]

might be related to the latest patch

#🩹┃patch-notes message

[tired remnant]

MUD Faction Map Changes
Over the last couple months, we received multiple requests to adjust how the resources were laid out in MUD's control of Galia. We took our time to carefully assess the request, asked for direct feedback from individuals part of the MUD faction and are making a couple changes based on our findings.

• Swapped the resources found at MRZ-3 with MRZ-7
• Swapped the resources found at MRZ-4 with MRZ-6

[formal elm]

Is there any mining fleet options under 100$ for a newbee or am I delusional

[safe zenith]

Hey SA crew. Been a few months since I logged in. - Having trouble confirming transactions with Nano Ledger with Phantom Wallet. * I logged into Phantom, logged into SA site. * I connected and unlocked ledger, it's set on "allow blind sign in" - I keep getting the pop up "Confirm on your Nano Ledger , make sure your unlocked, on solana app, and allow blind sign is on" - I'm definitely have done all this lol

any suggestions?

I'm on google chrome

[spiral ravine]

Can Mud get the Tiers on the Starbases swapped too? This really puts a lot of us at a disadvantage crafting Ammo. MRZ6 is a 1

[mighty holly]

Clear your cache browser and try again

[mortal lark]

what error are you getting ? or does the transaction not pop up at all on your wallet ?

[safe zenith]

I'm not really getting an "error" it's just not prompting me to confirm on wallet with "unrecognized format". -- Well I was able to confirm transaction to change avatar - but nothing is happening when trying to accept to airdropped silver card pack or gold card pack

• also trying to refuel staked ships and nothing happening

[mighty holly]

Then you need RECTIFICATE your wallet disconnect and connect it back on google chrome accept request @safe zenith

[mortal lark]

don't accept DMs, likely scammers

[safe zenith]

thx for tip! ill give it a shot

[mortal lark]

Are you trying to do this in SAGE, or in Faction fleet ?

[safe zenith]

faction fleet

[safe zenith]

..

[mortal lark]

Some troubleshooting steps, try a hard refresh with Ctrl + F5, if issue persists, attempt on a different browser, if issue persists, can try on a different wallet (Solflare for example), if still not resolved, probably opening a ticket would be your best option. #ticket

be wary of scammers trying to DM you

[late condor]

[safe zenith]

thx for your time boss!!

[safe zenith]

def seems like a glitch somewhere since the transaction confirmations are working to the change the avatar, but nothing else i try

[late condor]

oh lol new graphics glitch

[mortal lark]

They implemented some changes today in SAGE, I don't know if it could have inadvertently affected Faction Fleet in some way, if you feel something's off, opening a ticket is your best option.

[safe zenith]

easiest way to open a ticket? 😄 - been a hot minute since I've been on here

[late condor]

#ticket

oh lol my SAGE interface is glitching so hard

[mortal lark]

flush out your memory, restart computer

[late condor]

Nah the bot doesn't mind visual bugs

[subtle kestrel]

Many ships of mine are MIA. Anybody knows something about it? They just vanished

[amber whale]

hello friends. I've been mining copper ore at MRZ4 but relise that I'm not harvesting any. Upon checking, the system richness is zero 0.. is this a bug or did we depleted this planet of its resources? 😅

[late condor]

they swapped MRZ-4 with MRZ-6 today

[mortal lark]

from SAGE ?

[late condor]

#🩹┃patch-notes message

[subtle kestrel]

yep. they were on MRZ-4 and now only some of them are there. cant find it anywhere

[amber whale]

ohh you're right.

[late condor]

so that's why there's no more copper

also welcome back

haven't seen u in a while

[mortal lark]

They implemented some changes today in SAGE, MRZ-4 was one of them. If hard refresh and the usual troubleshooting isn't working, I would open a ticket.

[late condor]

maybe they migrated to MRZ-6 xD

you could also load your profile's wallet address in eveeye and check where they are

they can't be gone it's likely just the SAGE UI

eveeye will be accurate

[subtle kestrel]

looked there. its nowhere

[late condor]

that's odd

yeah ticket time

[subtle kestrel]

bit showing there neither. thats what made more worried

i'll take a look on chain to see if there is any odd transactions

there was a message of partial disband when i entered SAGE. I clicked to finish disband the fleet. maybe was that?

honestly, i think its some blockchain issue and the fleet state was not updated yet. even eveeye is acting strange

[fathom estuary]

whats going on here ^^

[azure plover]

Come on, I just took a look at the patch notes and there were ppl asking for a resource swap? With that swap it mean it'll take more time for me to move certain resources. Who was the 'intelligent person' asking for this?

[mortal lark]

#🩹┃patch-notes message

[mortal lark]

people from your faction. I am sure the change was a product of elaborate calculation by the devs, not just because some people were asking for it.

[azure plover]

Hm...From what I see, I was doing an exchange of resources from previous MRZ 4 and MRZ9. Now it seems I either have to switch to 6 and 7, and the fuel cost and waiting time (X2) goes up because I'll have to make at least 2 to 3 warps between them per half trip cos the distance between them is higher than between 4 and 9. Or I'll have to content myself with movements between MRZ4, 9 and 3 which still increases the time and fuel cost I need to move my resources around. I'm not sure whom the devs got their info from but it seems obvious that those with large ships and fleets were highly likely the ones who provided the information since they have large transport ships and can move a much larger distance with warpping. Obviously this change is not friendly for those with mid sized ships and fleets.

[spiral ravine]

MRZ6 is level 1 too. It’s useless for crafting Ammo at the moment.

[azure plover]

Darn! I totally forgot about that. So seems that 4,9,3 is currently the way to go then. Dang. It's really gonna take me more than a day just to move a couple million ammo from 3 then...

[naive silo]

CSS wallet resources shows up for me, but ships in port of entry isn't
Now only shows up 1 ship at a time after sending, have to transefer 1 by 1

[limber steeple]

If you can kindly #ticket so the team can further check on this. Thank you.

[pseudo dawn]

Is the update live?

[terse bane]

is there a link for today's atlas brew?

[stark juniper]

MRZ4 hydrogen richness should be 200 now after the swap correct? That's what MRZ6 had before

[terse bane]

https://www.youtube.com/live/EkYKRf5nv-I?si=Czt5tQn6C2bn4jjj

[ebon summit]

I don't see the ships in the port of entry, I have It in my wallet and i see It but i can't import the ships on Sage. Can someone tell me why the team have not do a annuncement for this? I Lost a lot of time ti refresh, disconnect an other stuff before to come here and read some people have the same problem. So?

[naive silo]

Only shows up 1 ship at a time for me. Sending them 1 by 1 now lol

Just another 25 airbikes to go

[azure plover]

Lolz, everything for scanning increases by 6, so per hour max 5-6 scans and if you get consecutive 0 SDUs for those 5-6 scans, it means one wasted an hour on nothing. Haha. What a wonderful change...

[ebon summit]

I have import just 1, now Say there isn't ships in the wallet . Try everything for fix but nothing, WTF

@hazy hedge

[azure plover]

From what I see, it's still 150 I think

[pseudo dawn]

So the patch is not yet updated?

[fleet vortex]

Is the renting of ship/fleet being built by "Star Atlas" , the community, or both? And will it happen in Sage or Surge?

[ebon summit]

@hazy hedge

[icy remnant]

Heayy

Hy

[wispy widget]

Very likely a server error. Give it some time please.

[wispy widget]

It’s together with a third party, will work for SAGE

[limber steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-puppy-cute-puppy-puppy-dance-adorable-gif-12449937729095510856

[limber steeple]

This has already been released.
#🩹┃patch-notes message

[fleet vortex]

Thank you. I'm looking forward to having more questions when more available about the system. 🌞

What is a RFR?

[azure plover]

Lolz, what's the use of RFR if it's still the same as the previous time where the cost of making one is higher than what it's worth?

Might as well give RFR some utilization to make it worthwhile to make.

[fleet vortex]

What is it? Can't find an explanation.

[azure plover]

It's a token that you can craft with SDU + some other materials in SAGE. It's actual name is Council RFR.

[brisk wind]

Is this an appropriate channel to talk about ships?

[primal plume]

Gm everyone!

Does someone play sage on iPhone?

[limber steeple]

Better here fam if for sage #👑┃sage

[woven condor]

battle tested is green now ⚔️

[spiral ravine]

MY SDU scanning seems way off with SLY.. and I cant manually scan either unless I refresh the inventory

[azure plover]

You realize that the new scanning time is 6x the original cooldown yes?

With the new scans drops and cooldown, will we even be able to get 10% of SDU out of the total possible scans for our fleets? Since it's still possible to get 10 consecutive scans with no SDUs (and I'm taking about the probability higher than 25%), and this will be roughly 2 hours with 0 gain.

I'm already seeing 4 scans with 0 SDUs and am waiting for the 5th scan. This is a wasted 1 hour if I do not get anything in the next 10 minutes. Not to mention the food that goes into the scans

[spiral ravine]

I changed my timer to 755 sec .. I normally do 2200 of SDU an HR 50K a day. and added three fleets as well .. just cleared cache/cookies on both browsers and started over. .. also burned through .03 Sol in 2.5 Hrs for some reason WTF.

[azure plover]

Well, let me know if you still get 2200 SDU an hour, 50k a day or if you get more/less. From what I'm seeing now, I'm getting less than what I'm originally getting. I'll run for the next few days and see...

[spiral ravine]

A full clearing of Cache/Cookies and hard reboot seemed to work

[azure plover]

Wow, you have some nice scan drops!

[valid estuary]

I did the same, but still cant find any SDU even +30% probability. Strange

[azure plover]

Lolz, that's what's happening for me too...

[valid estuary]

Was just wondering if this is the normal screen for Last Probability and Last Scan? Why is it N/A?

[azure plover]

I think if you are using SLY this is normal. If you're doing manual, then there should be something for last probability and last scan

[valid estuary]

Seems to work after clearing the cache and hard reset now.

[zinc hollow]

When i tried collecting my crafted materials today they did not appear in my inventory today. I cant find them anywhere. anybody else have this issue?

[west slate]

yeah something is messed up

check the transaction and save the link for it

your going to need that when they check

[limber steeple]

Sharing the latest patch notes: #🩹┃patch-notes message

[granite jungle]

GM ☕️

[wild osprey]

This resource swap for MUD at the MRZ is a farce, you've basically moved the honeypot base (hydrogen and copper and whale food supply) from the left of the map to the right of the map. Players building economy, mining, crafting around mrz4 rekt as it takes time to move all of that to a station where whales are supplying food. I suspect this supply of food will now move to MRZ6. This only suits whales who can now upgrade those right side bases and everyone left behind because they've had time to prepare and everyone given 1hour notice and mid crafting which takes Weeks. Didn't even ask the community for opinion. Honestly what a poor decision and essentially manipulation of the game to serve the benefit of a handful of whales with clout asking to make this change

So where is oni' and usters' honeypot base and are they going to conveniently have it moved to the side of the map that hasn't been developed yet? Or are they going to have to fly there and develop organically

That creates massive imbalance in the game and MUD is now going to advance so much quicker than the other factions

You should have just added new space stations on outer rim to rebalance the resources if you thought that was a problem

[languid pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/chitty-chitty-bang-bang-marcus-burnett-bad-boys-ride-or-die-that's-what-i'm-talking-about-shots-fired-gif-4183567291782023840

SUPPP @wild osprey

[fleet vortex]

Is a token equal to 1 Atlas in value? I asked google to explain what a token was. 🌞

[lunar nexus]

Problems displaying R4s that are in the wallet, within SAGE? I have Fuel but i can't see it in CSS

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-11625313334009911234

[mortal lark]

RFR stands for "Request for Resources", and is represented by a recipe that you will craft in one starbase and deliver to another starbase to get a fixed payment (in ATLAS) for the RFR. We don't know yet how much RFRs will be worth, as that has not been announced yet.

[whole helm]

GM

[fleet vortex]

Now that sounds good!! Can't wait to hear more about that. Wish there was an official page (forum?) to be exactly informed and updated on something this important. 🌞

[sick iron]

GM Galia

[sick iron]

yes...same proplem here

[lunar trout]

MRZ4 is bugged?

[azure plover]

Huh? How does that work? I thought you just craft RFR and sell on the galactic marketplace for Atlas? Or that was the old system anyway. You mean the new one's different?

Hm...Let's see how it's gonna work when it comes out.

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-the-fuck-is-this-wth-gif-17571836

<@&809877248572260394>

[shell glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-bait-mad-max-fury-road-gif-23673398

[mortal lark]

DMs from random people trying to "help you create a ticket" are 100% scammers

We have our own channels for that #ticket

[brittle bronze]

I am trying to transport resources, but the resources that appear loaded on the screen are not actually loaded in the fleet, the ship and fuel are going empty, in vain.

There are the same problems in the market. I bought a resource but that resource is not available in CSS 🔥 🔥 🔥

[dry oxide]

I crafted ammunition and it doesn't appear in the CSS 🙄

[cold ledge]

do a hard refresh, see under Staff Efforts if the craft is finished, also try the refresh button for the invenoty page

#ticket if it persists

[cold ledge]

#ticket

do not take any direct messages, scammers watching

[jade lynx]

Hello i am new to discord. How do i play?

[cold ledge]

Welcome, here some guides to get you started.

!guides

[sour hearth]

Here are some great community created guides that can help you get started with Star Atlas!

• https://intergalacticherald.com/star-atlas-guide/
• https://aephia.com/star-atlas-guides/
• https://galiacrafters.medium.com/star-atlas-101-i-have-20-what-can-i-do-3e9c72e421d2
• https://hologramnews.com/star-atlas-guides/

[cold ledge]

you can try the UE5 version #🔑┃game-access-key

[jade lynx]

Thank you. But it is playable right now?

[cold ledge]

for sage the browsergame you will need assets !sagetutorial

!sagetutorial

[sour hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2k1CYglsI

[cold ledge]

yes you can test a few game modes

[jade lynx]

Good. Will try it out. Do i need to do anything else here in discord? I'm new to discord platform too.

[cold ledge]

for now just this

[earnest star]

🎮 Your Game Key is Here!

3JJ7S-4KYNJ-2J8S7-RKZ2A

Follow these simple steps to redeem your key on Epic Games:

1. Open or Install the Epic Games Launcher
2. Log in to your Epic Games account
3. Click your name in the upper right corner
4. Select Redeem Code from the dropdown menu
5. Enter 3JJ7S-4KYNJ-2J8S7-RKZ2A and then click Redeem
6. Check your Library where you'll find Star Atlas ready to play!

We're still in the early stages of development, so there are no tutorials yet, and you’ll likely encounter bugs. But don’t worry, our community is super helpful! If you're unsure about anything, just reach out and we'll gladly guide you in the right direction.

[jade lynx]

Thank you for help. Oh it is on Epic Games??

thanks @user

oh...

[cold ledge]

disable direct messages, scammers and impersonators will target newcomers

https://support.staratlas.com/showroom

[jade lynx]

did you add me?

oh scammer i think

[cold ledge]

no thats a scammer

they lurk here with alt accounts and then message you with doppelgangers

report his profile to discord directly, so he gets banned, or just block him

[jade lynx]

I selected ONI. Can i change that if i dont like this faction?

[cold ledge]

where in sage or on the main page?

you cant change at the moment, you would need another wallet or a different account in sage

for ue5 (epic games launcher/showroom)it should not matter at the moment

[restive glacier]

Do the extra cargo pods that are present after disbanding a fleet automatically close now? I don't see the red banner anymore.

[random cobalt]

do you have problems with ships and fleets? you don't see the ships to create the fleets. sometimes they are in inventory and sometimes not? but in any case they are not visible to the fleets-

[jade lynx]

what solana wallet do you suggest? i see more options

[cold ledge]

i use phantom, backpack and solflare

for saage definitely solflare or backpack, since phantom has priority fees enabled

[jade lynx]

ahh okay. Will just use phantom as i already have it. Thank you

[cold ledge]

the safest is a hardware wallet like ledger

[jade lynx]

oh... then i need to create solflare

[gloomy elbow]

You should definitely change from Oni...

[cold ledge]

all solana wallets are interchangable

[jade lynx]

I am thinking MUD

[cold ledge]

so you seed phrase works in all of them

[jade lynx]

In guilds looks like only 1 ONI group?

Italian

[cold ledge]

https://docs.solflare.com/solflare/onboarding/web-app-and-extension/import-any-solana-wallet

[elfin tundra]

Bro i suggest USTUR

Also GM

[gloomy elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[jade lynx]

You MUD?

Which group?

guild*

[gloomy elbow]

Of course 🙂

[jade lynx]

I dont like robots.

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-crying-youre-crying-not-crying-im-not-crying-im-not-crying-you-are-not-crying-it-crowd-gif-27258922

[gloomy elbow]

Mud Empire i can make some introductions for you

[cold ledge]

for choosing a faction it only matters right now if you want join a specific guild otherwise its personal preference,
also for future ship building there is some things to consider https://medium.com/star-atlas/star-atlas-faction-aligned-companies-f7b56f2bd348

https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1298065003706060810

[jade lynx]

more stuff to read

tnx 😄

[jade lynx]

is MUD better?

Why?

[gloomy elbow]

Dm I'm not a scammer

[jade lynx]

I closed DM

As mod suggested

[azure plover]

Uster seems to be a better choice currently...(Although I'm Mud haha)

[cold ledge]

yes stick to that

[gloomy elbow]

Yeah he's right about that but you can friend me if you want mud info vb can vouch I'm not a scammer

[jade lynx]

Can i DM you?

[gloomy elbow]

Yeah

[cold ledge]

i dont vouch for anyone sorry, right now a scammer creates an account with your name for example

[gloomy elbow]

Tru dat..

[jade lynx]

will add you. do you need my wallet address or anything? if not i can add you.

[mortal lark]

breaking news: VB vouches for scammer. Cannot have such headlines

[gloomy elbow]

No i don't need your wallet address 🤣

[jade lynx]

what about seed?

[cold ledge]

nobody needs that, but wallet addresses safe, just never give or show anyone your seed phrase or your private keys

[jade lynx]

testing you 🙂

[gloomy elbow]

I thought he always did that ...

[cold ledge]

and never click on new sites or connect your wallet to unknown new sites

[jade lynx]

okay, thank you for help again

[gloomy elbow]

Seed phrase is best posted in general to be extra safe

[jade lynx]

i added you as friend

[gloomy elbow]

Ok im out driving right now will be on in a couple of hours

[jade lynx]

okay, will be online later today

[potent dirge]

GMGM

[elfin tundra]

Hey people hows it going

[torn crest]

Gm gm ☕

[azure plover]

Pfft...8 consecutive scans and no drops. All above 20% probability. What a JOKE.😵‍💫

[whole helm]

did you try Fimbul xxs or?

[sick iron]

the cooldown time is a worse joke IMHO

If owning an opod wasnt a waste for me before...now its silly

[azure plover]

It's not my very small fleet of fimbul xxs, which I am thankful of, since seeing this kind of drop rate will mean my small fimbul xxs fleet will probably get nothing after all the food is used up, and the devs are saying this helps small players. ARE THE DEVS JOKING?

[whole helm]

you see time reduction

well, well burn server tomorow

[azure plover]

I DON'T. The cooldown time is 6x, which goes by calculation is supposed to be the same. However in reality, when one gets to scan more times, there's more of a chance to get something. Now it's cut by 6 times. I mean yes if one lucky, every 10 minutes the person gets something, then that'll be really cool. However reality ain't so nice. One will probably call it lucky to get 1 out of 5 or 6 scans and that's 1 hour's work of scanning.

[whole helm]

so much from dust, I think they wait for rain

[mortal lark]

probabilities average out with volume, so while it might take longer to average out, the longer cooldown's positives far outweigh the negatives. Yes, it will take 6x longer for your average success chances to average out (con), but you are also spending 6x less in tx fees (pro)

the end result, over a large sample size, is exactly the same as before in terms of the odds of success, and your farmed SDUs. Whereas the impact on transactions, making them cheaper (because you are doing 6x less tx), is actually a pretty significant difference, for the better

[whole helm]

but just fimbul, how nice

what is behind the wheel

[azure plover]

I think you are forgetting to take into account the fuel cost that that goes into the equation when you have a longer cooldown time. Because a longer cooldown time will mean you have to move about more frequently to get a good probability square, equating to more txs, more sols/atlas needed, more fuel for the movement.

Unless you are saying you are just going to park the fleet there and not move, then there won't be that additional fuel cost.

[mortal lark]

I would argue that longer cooldowns mean less movement, not sure how you are calculating that you need to move more often, considering the cooldown timer is 6 times longer, doesn't really make sense.

I mean, yes, if you are trying to farm sectors that are 50% + probability, you will move alot, but you shouldn't be doing that in the first place

especially if you have a small fleet

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/based-on-what-vaako-riddick-diesel-nation-confused-gif-16486816

[mortal lark]

you should gauge what percentage success chance is ideal based on your fleet size, and your fleet size should not be too big

[azure plover]

I move my fleets to other squares when I get near or below 20%. I don't specifically aim for 50% (that's pretty hard to do in the first place). In the old config, my fleet's fuel will last for the whole journey and back (with spare sometimes) after all the food is delepted. Now, that's not happening for me. And my movements are the same as previous frequency.

[mortal lark]

as an example, with the previous SDU mechanics, if your fleet had a cap of 50 SDUs per successful scan, you could technically farm a sector that is 5% success chance, and you would cap your fleet scan stat. 5% is a low number, but in theory, as long as you were in a sector that had a 5% chance, you would be maxxing your successes, meaning no real point to move unless succes chance went lower than that. Obviously, you would probably look for higher probability sectors anyway, but trying to chase 50%+ sectors with a fleet that has a 50 SDU cap, is really not ideal at all.

[mortal lark]

I dunno if you use automation, but 20% is still quite high, unless you are doing it manually.

I am using 50% only as an example

there are lots of factors to consider, it is most certainly not a one size fits all thing

fleet size, and SDU capacity per fleet is the most important stats to take into account

[azure plover]

I have done 12 consecutive scans without any drops previously, and that's with a 2+ minute cooldown. Now I see 8 consecutive with no drops and the cooldown is 10+minutes.

[mortal lark]

end result is the same

because even though it takes 6x longer, when you get a successful hit, you will get 6x more SDUs

The only con I can see with this change is that it takes 6x longer for your probabilities to average out, but aside from that, over thousands of attempts, the end result is the same as before. So as long as you are patient, and don't mind that you will sometimes get 12 fails in a row (quite normal), and just let it keep going, you'll be fine.

[azure plover]

That's if you get 1 out of 6 hits that will be the same as previous. if you don't average out at 1/6 or above, you're at a loss

[mortal lark]

Over a very large sample size, this will occur. It's just math

It's not a question of if it will happen, it will happen

[azure plover]

As you said , over a large sample size which will be nearing infinite.

[mortal lark]

yes, so all that's changed is that now it takes 6x longer to average out, that is the only "con" I can see. But if you plan to scan for months, then that should be irrelevant

the smaller your fleet, or the more often you "check up on it", the more it will seem lopsided, to be sure. But the fact remains that nothing really has changed

[jade lynx]

How much is it smart to invest to actually earn some money?

are there any good tools?

[cold ledge]

https://flipsidecrypto.xyz/Aephia/star-atlas-economy-gm-insights-dJhgb_ has lots of good charts

[cold ledge]

here a nice video, which shows some tricks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJTNQ5x-loI

[cold ledge]

https://atlas.eveeye.com/ a superb tool to simulate fleets and crafting

[jade lynx]

vb you already my favourite mod here. thank you very much

[azure plover]

From what I'm seeing now from the scan data, the probability of the squares is not 6x. What I mean is the last time lets say a square at 50% will take maybe 1-2 or so hours to go down to less than 20%. Now it's still the same taking 1-2 hours to get from 50% to 20%. This is the point where additional fuel cost comes in because one has to move. I'm not getting roughly the same amt of SDU when I get back to SB even after all the fuel is spent.

[mortal lark]

on the flip side, because the cooldown is 6x longer, there would be less scans required between when the "cosmic waves" will circle back to your area. It balances out in the end.

[azure plover]

That's if I'm still at the square. The higher likelihood is I'm back at the SB refilling and misses out on the re-circled "cosmic wave"

[mortal lark]

They don't need to change how the cosmic current flow

They could, but it wouldn't make a difference in terms of balancing

[torn crest]

The way I did it (back in the day when I used to scan), was leaving the eveeye map open and check it every now and then. Whenever I saw that the high percentage wave moved towards my fleet I started scanning, whenever it left I did something else. Had 0 fuel costs

[azure plover]

That will mean you will have down times

[mortal lark]

whatever your scanning patterns were before, they have not been prejudicated by the change, even if it might seem to you that they are

[torn crest]

Yes, and way less fuel cost and stress

[mortal lark]

I would even venture to say that if they made the cosmic currents move 6x slower, that would actually make things worse, not better.

[azure plover]

I think it will also be a problem if combat comes into play if you just leave it there and do nothing (ppl might hijack your fleets for your SDUs 🤣)

[mortal lark]

everything I say, i say as if one is automating, which is what I do. So I set my parameters, and I let it run

[azure plover]

That is a true

[azure plover]

How much cut off do you set for the probability?

[mortal lark]

13%, which is just under my fleet cap

3 strike system, so i don't move immediately after 1 scan below cutoff, i would have to do 3 scans below cutoff before fleet moves.

fleet size, and SDU cap is important

[torn crest]

Combat wont be there anytime soon

[azure plover]

Do you change your 3 strike time? Cos of the 6x cooldown?

[barren magnet]

The cost of scanning (SOL fees) is going down significantly.

[mortal lark]

the 3 strikes is not affected by the 6x increase, only if you are stationary and want a CD after successful scan, in which case just increase whatever number you had there previously by 6x

[mortal lark]

yes, this has changed, I was referring to purely the SDU scanning mechanics, sans fees

[azure plover]

I mean the Scan Pause Time

[modest vault]

Should have been 60x and should also increase mining timers etc

it's a start

[cold ledge]

sol fee per sdu, i think the market will show if that helps

[mortal lark]

it is unclear how that mechanic works currently, but before the CD after successful scan was around 2min, or 120sec. So I just increased that number by 6x

[modest vault]

oh sorry I forgot we have short mining timers for FUN and ACTIVE gameplay

[barren magnet]

Agreed

[modest vault]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-stone-cold-what-gif-5546524793881907206

[azure plover]

No no, I mean the line that is after the CD after successful scan. it's for Number of seconds to wait when sectors probabilities are too low

[whole helm]

? Fimbul-xxs x 6 = Fimbul-xxs-6 x 6xSector = Fimbul-xxs-36x

[modest vault]

Christmas is in less than 30 days

BLESS

[mortal lark]

Oh, i don't use that feature, as I use "move while scanning", so that doesn't apply to me

[barren magnet]

I'd prefer if it took 8 or 12 hours to fill my mining fleets.

[modest vault]

This makes the most sense and how it's done in this genre always 😂

[mortal lark]

or I guess it does, in which case, I don't actually care, I just let it scan right away as soon as CD is done, to trigger the 3 strikes ASAP

[azure plover]

My fimbul xxs can only do 11 scans max per round now. if I keep getting 11 consecutive scans with nothing, well...

[barren magnet]

With the increased cooldown you can now move to a better area before trying to scan again.

[mortal lark]

It will average out. remember, if you are in a sector that has 20% success chance, that means that technically, out of 11 attempts, only 2.2 should hit. You will get a run where you hit 4 successes, it will happen, guaranteed.

[azure plover]

Lolz, that's why I'm saying fuel cost...

[azure plover]

I hope...My luck ain't the best

[whole helm]

? Fimbul-xxs x 6 = Fimbul-xxs-6 x 6xSector = Fimbul-xxs-36x

[barren magnet]

How much fuel does it cost to move your airbike 1 sector?

[mortal lark]

very little to do with luck, it just takes longer for it to occur now, 6x longer to be precise 🙂

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/dcg-dragonclawgames-spin-spinning-wheel-gif-21987668

[cold ledge]

can someone explain, so in my head we just get more sdu, which means they get cheaper, but we still have the same txn?

[azure plover]

That one I'm not sure should be around 5 fuel/AU if I'm not wrong

[mortal lark]

What I will say is that if your fleet size is small, doing it manually is probably better than automating.

[modest vault]

should only be slightly more?

purely due to being more selective about where u scan

might end up less though cause u will now overshoot ur inventory more

so it probably just evens out

[mortal lark]

nothing's changed in terms of SDU scanning mechanics. We are just now saving alot on fees. So in a nutshell, everything's changed by 6x, you get 6x more SDU per successful scan, you use 6x more food per scan, CD is increased by 6x

[modest vault]

on paper yeah

I think there is actual differences

probably minor tho

[mortal lark]

main pro is we save alot on tx fees, main con is it takes longer for your probabilities to average out

[modest vault]

every1 should be more profitable

no matter if it's slightly more or slightly less

[mortal lark]

I will know if I need to employ another transport fleet to move my SDUs

[cold ledge]

isnt it even more txn now, coz the cargo fills up faster?

my issue is with txn

[mortal lark]

no, becasue CD is 6x longer, cargo fills up same time

[azure plover]

Eh? You can employ one?

[mortal lark]

maybe I should have used the word deploy

[azure plover]

Oh 😂

[mortal lark]

To expound @cold ledge your cargo will fill up to 100% with 6x less transactions, because even though you are getting 6x more SDUs/successful scan, the cooldown between scans is also 6x longer.

[cold ledge]

jep

[mortal lark]

so in theory, it would take the same amount of time as before to fill up your cargo hold, but you will be doing only 1/6 the amount of tx as before

[topaz pine]

Id say the biggest change with SDU scanning is law of averages. You can go on hot/cold streaks now.

The other big change is you can now afford to use more time looking for a better location.

[mortal lark]

Did they change the flow of cosmic currents ?

wasn't mentioned that they did

[topaz pine]

If you used 30 seconds to find a good location before but scam time was 100 seconds, that's big downtime. But now searching for 30 seconds out of 600 seconds isn't too bad.

[barren magnet]

I don't believe so

[mortal lark]

it wouldn't change anything anyway, was just curious if they did or not.

[cold ledge]

so my question would be, can i start a scanning fleet with 10 bikes and be profitable?

like outperform txn cost

[mortal lark]

hard to say without testing, or at least until eveeye updates to reflect the changes.

[cold ledge]

yeah would be nice to have a game loop for new players again

[mortal lark]

one thing's for sure, you will have to be more patient if testing, as everything takes 6x longer now, including getting a large enough sample size

[cold ledge]

we will see

[steel cosmos]

what was yesterday's code?

[torn crest]

Good question.
I'll ask the community team 🫡

[cold ledge]

i have not seen one yet, will ask and tag you when i find out

[steel cosmos]

thanks

[steel cosmos]

thank you

[torn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/am-ia-joke-to-you-meme-original-video-am-ia-joke-joke-to-you-gif-27389464

[barren magnet]

One of my complaints with the old system was that I was that I have to spend such a long time moving to a new location after a successful scan. (I'm manually scanning not using automations). This helps with that a bit.

I think filling your entire cargo hold after a successful scan could work better for both fees and actual people vs bots. Could increase the weight of SDUs to balance it if needed.

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-gif-26388515

[barren magnet]

That's a good question. I'm not sure what the break even cost is on a scanning fleet, but it's heavily dependant on the probability of success where you scan.

[topaz pine]

yeah its a promising change. adds more of a thinking element then just button mashing.

[topaz pine]

we'll know once EveEye updates their site:)

[cold ledge]

yeah the only way to start playing with a 100$ is crafting atm, but that is very volantile.

i have faith in @fresh storm

to update all stats 🙂

[topaz pine]

the real issue here is changing peoples mindset. Even if someone put in $100 bucks and had 100% APR, making $100 bucks total. (+100 capital). thats only 27 cents per day. no one is going to play a game for 27 cents per day if there goal is to make money. gameplay needs to be engaging and fun. I'm honestly not sure how anyone is supposed to make money at the lower end unless its skill based. e.g. UE5.

[cold ledge]

or that, but then we will need to advertise it like that

[topaz pine]

we arent doing any advertising 🙂

[cold ledge]

well still new people arrive every day, and telling them hey sorry the game is not for you feels sadge

also on my calculations the fees become a real issue at some point for every player and the economy itself

except we do not have these as much in ue5

[topaz pine]

if someone is coming here with 100 bucks and expecting to make 5 bucks a day, then yes, this game isnt for them.

at least not yet.

[mortal lark]

to bryan's point above, if the objective is to make money, for a smaller player, the mindset 100% needs to shift, as the example showed, and so many times in the early days smaller players complained about just this, making 100% APR, and it's "not enough", which is kinda absurd, lol

[cold ledge]

its about coming here and with a 100 bucks and cant play anything or pay 10-30 bucks a month on txn fees

[topaz pine]

well, those people could craft and play the markets like you said earlier

if you are here for money then you gotta act like it

shape your fleets to the economics at hand

id argue its 1000% easier to craft and play the markets with smaller amounts. you could probably 2x your stack fairly easily.

also happy turkey day!

[mortal lark]

one thing is for sure, this change definitely makes scanning much more viable again on a much smaller budget. What that starting budget is is hard to say atm, but I would venture a guess and say that if $500 was entry level before, then $500 / 6 should do now. at the very least $1k / 6

[cold ledge]

ask your gpt what happens if we have 100k players with 1k txn a day 🙂 (without priority fees) its a huge burden on the economy itself, also what happens sol goes up to 500 or 1k

numbers are pretty crazy

[topaz pine]

there's no point. by the time that happens the entire ecosystem will have changed.

if we have 100k players the game will be vastly different.

Solana will be fastly different

taking a current problem and applying it to the future with zero assumptions that the future will change isn't fair.

ask chatgpt about that 🙂

bro sometimes i think Solana Web3 is like 99% zealy quests. fucking hell

constant pings from protocols with quests/contents

[cold ledge]

how would ignoring a already existing problem which could grow exponentially help? i did ask it 🙂

[cold ledge]

yeah im not doing any of that for a while now 🙂

[modest vault]

I call your one-sided reasoning fallacy

and raise you wishful thinking

bang bang

[topaz pine]

i got you bae

[cold ledge]

im scared to post my gpt, might look like fud 🙂 so ask it calculate costs for 100k players and 1k txn a day at a sol price of 250, 500, 1000, txn cost 0.000005, if you want to get crazy add stats for priority fees 5x 10x 🙂

[barren magnet]

That last thing any of us should be doing is telling new people "this game isn't for you". We have to find better matches for new people and encourage them to participate where it makes most sense.

[cold ledge]

then you see where im going

[cold ledge]

exactly my point

thats why i complain so hard

i have to tell them that

[topaz pine]

tell them what?

[cold ledge]

well the game is not for you atm, you could try craft with 14 crew

[barren magnet]

...

[cold ledge]

but with just a 100$ you cant play atm or not participate in the game economy

dude i still onboarded someone 2 weeks ago

[topaz pine]

you CAN play atm.

[cold ledge]

it was tough but he is trying to make something with crafting fuel

no ships

[modest vault]

probably better off telling success stories

of some ppl who started w/ v little

and just arbitraged markets to get a fleet that's workable

[topaz pine]

arent you making the economic decisions for them? maybe they are smarter then you or going to discover things you dont know about?

[modest vault]

crafting fuel isn't great tho

it's quite bad 😂

[cold ledge]

ok so what i tell them in your opinion?

[modest vault]

think everything else is better

[modest vault]

I mean crafting is highest ROI

[cold ledge]

here some guides, figure it out yourself?

[modest vault]

😂

[topaz pine]

yes.

[modest vault]

arbitrage the highest of course but way more effort

crafting u can get >200%

if u are smart

[topaz pine]

no offense VB but you arent exactly the shining star of economic money making

[cold ledge]

i can exactly tell you what happens then, hey i bought a ship hey i payed tons of sol, hey i make minus, this game %$§§&

[topaz pine]

just because you cant sort it out doesnt mean others cant

[cold ledge]

i can search these for you

[modest vault]

I mean can always just buy claim stakes too

[cold ledge]

polis might be best atm

[topaz pine]

i mean... at least they gave it a shot. Maybe we retain 1/10 people and they go on to invest more money. Maybe they just start with $100 and realize... if i put in MORE money I can make it. Maybe some people just like playing Starbased. There are people that do.

[cold ledge]

i offer them this option to

[cold ledge]

yeah but they deeply disappointed

you know how it goes

someone asks yeh did you try star atlas

but i know

i repeat myself

we early

[topaz pine]

honestly i dont think you should be onboarding anymore

with this attitude

you are the front lines

[cold ledge]

well then its my fault i guess, im sorry

[onyx furnace]

Based is down?

[topaz pine]

Obviously not your fault here, you aren't in charge of the game or Solana or transaction costs. And I gotta go. I have a dentist appointment and somehow booked it on Thanksgiving. whoops.

[topaz pine]

seems okay, give it a refresh

[torn crest]

works for me too.
Hard refresh (ctrl+F5) or maybe restart your browser

[late meteor]

What is the current maximum crew limit for sdu scan per fleet in sage?

[torn crest]

Depends on your fleet composition.
The maximum crew limit for each fleet would be 145 (since you can put 145 xxs ships in one fleet with one crew each).
Unless there's something I dont understand about your question

[late meteor]

That means a maximum of 145 sdus for a successful scan? My last knowledge was 10 sdu per scan.

[tardy patio]

GM

[torn crest]

This was in the older game IDs, by now you can get way more sdus per scan (limited only by the amout of sdus in each sector technically):
We have a great spreadsheet but after todays update the data should have changed. Requested an update to the sheet already.
But thats what the possibilites were so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit?gid=205337066#gid=205337066

[whole helm]

? Fimbul-xxs x 6 = Fimbul-xxs-6 x 6xSector = Fimbul-xxs-36x

[mortal lark]

I wouldn't share this document for scanning intel until it is updated

the information in terms of scanning stats is incorrect atm

[subtle kestrel]

@torn crest could you help me? Currently i have almost U$2k in ships that just vanished. They dont show anywhere, even in eveeye. I am starting to get worried a lot.

i have a ticket open but no response.

[late meteor]

Oh, thanks for the info. Then I'll have to expand significantly upwards.

[manic relic]

i need brew code

[sick iron]

not your fault at all bro

[torn crest]

Thats why I stated above. I assume the people read what I write

[torn crest]

As I said, the sheet will be updated soon. These were the stats until now

[torn crest]

Hey! Dont worry, your ships cant vanish (if you solely use them within the SA ecosystem). Someone will take a look at your ticket and go through the transactions as soon as they can

[subtle kestrel]

tks man. anyways i just found here all transactions of disband with the full fleet.

just had a minor heart attack

[torn crest]

We don’t have it yet, asked the team for it 🫡

[torn crest]

No worries, Im sure your ships are fine. Just chilling somewhere in digital deep space

[limber oxide]

10x the price of ATLAS and then run numbers on profitable gameplay. By then these nfts will be worth significantly more and the opportunity to build vast fleets will have passed for most people. Same thing happened with all playable web3 games in 2021. Retail comes in, prices move so quick and suddenly it’s too late to load up.

[mortal lark]

mb

[limpid isle]

I'm loving these Ammunition prices 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-coffee-good-morning-gif-10000035592096243350

[torn crest]

Gm master

[limpid isle]

Good morning. Anything you can do about these ammunition prices? 😏

[sick iron]

whats happening with them?

not keeping up with market prices

[limpid isle]

The price is high

[torn crest]

Im afraid not, but the Aephia dashboard still gives out a buy recommendation https://flipsidecrypto.xyz/Aephia/star-atlas---economy-xGXyHF?tabIndex=3
Seems like its still cheaper than crafting

[limpid isle]

I'd do pretty good selling ammunition at these prices

[timid surge]

Hello, I have a nice rare DC Comics physical and NFT card of SuperGirl and would like to trade for an NFT of equivalent Star Atlas value.
If anyone is interested? (Scammer gone your way.)

[torn crest]

Hello my friend.
According to our discord https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/789228624892788736 OTC trading is not permitted here. There's a community run dicord for that purpose (at your own risk)

[loud mural]

You are a G. thanks you solved my issue i had crafting to complete. ❤️

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-dwight-the-general-manfredi-sylvester-stallone-tulsa-king-s1e6-gif-27284894

[vocal crystal]

Anyone see a reference to when the SDU and MUD base resource changes are being deployed? Or have they already been deployed?

[mortal lark]

Everything was deployed yesterday

update is live already

[vocal crystal]

MRZ4 still has the same resources on my map. Am I missing something?

• Swapped the resources found at MRZ-4 with MRZ-6

[mortal lark]

Is your game up to date ?

[spiral ravine]

MRZ4 Consequences

[vocal crystal]

Yes... looks to have the same resources... Hydro and Copper... Oh, did they add Copper to MRZ6? I don't see any changes in MRZ4.

[worthy comet]

u should see this.. Dom mentioned that u can still see copper ore but richness is 0

[lucid path]

can you mine when richness is 0?

[vocal crystal]

Good question! Not sure why they didn't just remove it? So MRZ4 only has hydrogen now?

[placid cypress]

The great ammunition crisis of 2624

[jade lynx]

Any ROME here?

[modest vault]

nah ROME all quit after getting rekt

[jade lynx]

Trying to find their discord server.

[jade lynx]

What happened?!

[modest vault]

better to join something more active like BULK

oh you are ONI?

sad

UNFORTUNATE

[jade lynx]

I just created my account today.

Why?

[modest vault]

Cause ONI are ugly

MUD is where it's at

[jade lynx]

Is there any diffrence between factions?

[modest vault]

only how beautiful they are

[jade lynx]

@serene walrus hello. Sorry for tagging you

I am looking for ROME discord

[modest vault]

I have no idea who that is that u just tagged 😂

[jade lynx]

mod recommended u guys.

[modest vault]

what mod?

[jade lynx]

I looked ROME?

[jade lynx]

Vb i think

[modest vault]

@cold ledge This is incredibly biased behaviour

I do not approve

[jade lynx]

He maybe said he cant say which is best

he said ROME and AEP

[modest vault]

oh you want the BEST?

def not ROME or AEP

[jade lynx]

in which one are you?

ZEUS?

[modest vault]

I am freelancer

[jade lynx]

whats that

[modest vault]

yes

ZEUS is part of BULK

liquidity provider

BULK is shipping and security DAC

[jade lynx]

Oh, are you multi faction?

[modest vault]

no

Jaywalk

[steady helm]

This is almost as bad as VB's onboarding where he tells players that they will all lose money.

[modest vault]

stay out of this

[modest vault]

no

We are multi-DAC though

[jade lynx]

Why is there sooo much information.

Too much for one day.

[modest vault]

what do u mean

It's a lot for sure

Take it slow

It's a rich and vibrant ecosystem

but it's hard to jump into everything

[jade lynx]

I would like to check good ONI guilds. do you recommend anything?

[steady helm]

Just ran my Turkeywhacker 5K with the family and now off to stuff my face with food. Happy Thaksgiving to all except for Dom...screw that guy! 🤪

[modest vault]

If you are deadset on ONI I'd recommend ROME I guess

AEP is very bad

[jade lynx]

Oh okay? May i ask why?

[jade lynx]

Yes i'm looking for their discord.

[modest vault]

Too many grifters

[jade lynx]

Are they small guild? ROME

[modest vault]

MIght be in recruitment channel?

[jade lynx]

?

[steady helm]

If you even slightly step out of line with ROME Bryan will yell at you though. Be prepared for the wrath.

[modest vault]

The biggest I think

[jade lynx]

Roman empire sounds cool

[steady helm]

Much like the real Romans they are into that kinky stuff. Most likely need to send nudes to be allowed in.

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/snoopy-charlie-brown-peanuts-gif-23917474

[jade lynx]

AEP isnt responding to fast...

I wanted to give a chance to ROME

but cant find them in #1298065003706060810

its my first time using discord

soo i might doing something wrong

[pale latch]

I would advise you not to be in a hurry tojoin guid.

Understand the game first
Know what you want to do in the game and then find a guild that aligns with your passion.

[jade lynx]

I did buy 5 XXS ships.

Just to see how i can play

But will think about buying more

Not sure if this is profitable?

[pale latch]

You do not need a guild to play the game.
You only need faction.

[jade lynx]

I decided for ONI in sage.

If i understood i will be able to change it later?

[pale latch]

You can join the Androids, humans or the ET's

[jade lynx]

ET's are ONI right?

[pale latch]

Oh Isee you are already an ET 🤣

[pale latch]

Aliens 🤣

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/988649555283308567/1186515205186928737/SmartSelect_20231216-004208_YouTube.gif

[pale latch]

Ok, jokes apart.

[pale latch]

Changing factions is not possible for now.
You will need another wallet or account to join another faction.

[jade lynx]

Ahh okay. Then i need ONI guild. But yeah, first will play little bit to see how to play

Any quick tips for new small member?

[pale latch]

@honest rampart

Watch the video above and it will help you as you start your journey

#👽┃general message

[torn crest]

Hey!
Yeah the video DaCog linked above is helpful, but first its probably important to understand the basics of the game.
I would recommend watching this video:

!sagetutorial

[sour hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2k1CYglsI

[torn crest]

Dont take DMs, scammers might target you!

[jade lynx]

Thank you, already got this. Now is time to actually try it 😄

[torn crest]

What does your fleet look like?

[jade lynx]

At the moment 5 XXS

soo smallest ships

[torn crest]

Did you watch the small player video linked above?
5 xxs might not be enough for a profitable loop.
With a small budget its probably best to look into crafting. Check this video out in that regard: https://youtu.be/zjEr-mC-pFM?si=efpFLnUHTFowMaih

[supple aspen]

Good day guys, I am an onchain data analyst, pls can someone point me to where I can access star atlas docs, for the their smart contract.
I queried onchain and found a bunch of exciting stuffs there but there are so many functions I need explanation for from the docs

[pale latch]

The community development channel is where you will find your answers
https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1004095538544787547

[pale latch]

@supple aspen 👆

[supple aspen]

Cool, thanks

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/wolverine-jonadibujos-frio-estufa-mate-gif-14532057882409831664

[torn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-stick-sam-metal-gear-rising-gif-25942192

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-of-exegol-poe-dameron-tros-the-rise-of-skywalker-star-destroyer-gif-26372728

[uneven umbra]

Supp bro

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceship-ignace-aleya-outer-space-spacecraft-space-vehicle-gif-17522618

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/i-really-cant-cook-at-all-bad-chef-idk-i-dont-know-cooking-gif-15369332

[primal plume]

Hey everybody, good evening Atlassian. Did someone face this error with phantom wallet?

[torn crest]

Looks like you dont have enough sol

[primal plume]

the problem is that I have enough Sol

[torn crest]

Do you have at least 0.02?

[primal plume]

yes

[torn crest]

Thats weird.
Try a hard refresh (ctrl+F5) and a browser restart.
Otherwise let someone in the ticket take a look at it - https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/895336048517849099

And careful with DMs, scammers are lurking

[primal plume]

ok, thank you Shaddix1

[lost rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-seinfeld-kramer-gif-16148732

happy thanksgiving!

[uneven umbra]

Happy thanksgiving fam!

[mortal lark]

@patent iris You know what to do

[patent iris]

That would be doing him dirty lol

Leeks is in charge of those lol

[valid yoke]

Bla, am so tired lol.....

....I gotta go to work and cook 130 or so slices of cheese pizza, make 100 or so side salads, 30 sides or so of "chilled steamed vegetable salad" and 130 cups of ranch, blue cheese and Italian dressing....

Then I gotta turn around and prep 2 turkeys and 2 sets of stuffings for my families Thanksgiving tomorrow lol

[uneven umbra]

Raaat

[valid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/rats-egg-beater-muppet-beaker-muppets-muppet-rats-gif-26736706

[uneven umbra]

Ufff

Long day huh

[valid yoke]

Indeed

[worthy comet]

I think there is something wrong with crafting speeds.. A craft that should take 16min if there is food, at a tier 2 starbase when there is no food should craft at 27,5% speed, that being 1hr crafint time.. but it takes 3hrs 40 min wich is 27,5% of the already slowed time.. the 0,275 factor is applied twice.. ending at a 7,5% speed...

[uneven umbra]

GL with that fam

Ans if u can send pics of the nice fooooood!!

[valid yoke]

I never thought about that

I'll start sharing the meals I cook for the oldies 🙂

I made this insane 3 cheese mac and cheese with capri style veggies day before last that was off the hook

[uneven umbra]

Oh okay, can u #ticket a show us all there?

[worthy comet]

ok

[uneven umbra]

Yeaaah pls

#🍗┃food

https://tenor.com/view/rebecca-jack-black-ill-be-waiting-half-stance-funny-gif-17917419

[valid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ratpeople-gif-18106476426751425559

[green pivot]

GM SA crew. HTG to our Murican fam.

[jade lynx]

Finally did my first mining loop

I bought 1 Tip

the small mining ship

i hope it was a good buy

[wispy widget]

congrats and welcome to the Star Atlas economy

[jade lynx]

Thank you 🙂 ! i must say, i'm impressed by what you guys have here

[gaunt panther]

Why is it taking 12 minutes between scans?

[west slate]

your going to want more then 1 tip in a fleet for mining as the sol fees tend to add up

[late pollen]

Anyone else facing issues with cargo? Sometimes the cargo is full but it shows as empty when docking. Even after refreshing, hard refresh, close and reopen browser or restarting PC the issue persists. And only hours later the cargo suddenly shows.

[west slate]

use the refresh buttion before you dock, undock etc to make sure things are correct ie the in app buttion not a global refresh

[late pollen]

Trying now

Not working. Maybe because I already docked

I undocked and tried, but doesn't help

[west slate]

there is a refresh buttion when you look at the fleet

use that

[late pollen]

I know, tried this one

[west slate]

hmm that looks like something is bugged

I think the update the other day messed with a few things try hard refresh / clear cache etc

should not be showing 0

[hollow hinge]

how do i get started playing? i just made a character

[west slate]

for ue5 you just need a key to download the game from epic

for sage you need crew and ships

[late pollen]

I think it's really empty because I just loaded it with other resources.

[gaunt panther]

It's taking 730 seconds between scan opportunities. Did something change?

[late pollen]

Which shouldn't be the case because I mined copper for 1 hour

[west slate]

yeah but iit should be any number other then 0

meaning your ui is totally bugged out

ie its a ui thing not an on chain thing

[late pollen]

Not sure about that because I mined the resource, 100% sure, got to the SB and couldn't unload because it shows 0. And could do a full load with other resources. Strange

Haven't disbanded this fleet in a like a month. Could that also cause issues? Maybe a self destruct could help. Clean slate and build a fresh fleet

[hollow hinge]

star atlas just says unavailable on epic launcher

[west slate]

you need a key to unlock it

[uneven umbra]

You need a key, you can get one here #🔑┃game-access-key

[hollow hinge]

i redeemed one already

[west slate]

it should be in the epic library then

don't go to the store page that will show unavailable

[hollow hinge]

i just redeemed another, it worked, thanks

the tulle ai starter pack website is also just black when i go to it.

[west slate]

if your looking to get into sage odds are a starter pack is not exactly a good deal due to the sol fees, scanning is slightly better now with the recent changes though

your going to need to calc out what you need to get per pull to mitigate fees

I need to head out for holiday dinner soon, onboarding during usa active hours will be better tomorrow as people will be active due to the raffle

[hazy hedge]

Happy thanksgiving to those who celebrate!

I’m very very very grateful to have the community we have. I have so much love for you guys and I can’t wait until we’re all out there in space doing crazy shit together, or fighting each other :p

💙💙💙

[uneven umbra]

❤️❤️

[gaunt panther]

Did they adjust the time between scans? It's taking 730 seconds between chances. This is 10x what it was.

[uneven umbra]

Check the update #🩹┃patch-notes message

[uneven umbra]

⏳https://discord.com/events/789226204980707409/1311227104482033684/1312115864371200000 ⌛

[delicate vapor]

yes its in the patch notes

[finite laurel]

Where I can see my fleets I had staked long time ago for eraning ATLAS?

[polar wren]

https://play.staratlas.com/fleet/

It's called Faction Fleet

[finite laurel]

I found it, so what I should do, keep them staked, or can I have a better use for it?

[polar wren]

Depends how many ships you have , but you can definitely try Starbased , it has much higher earning potential ! https://based.staratlas.com/

[finite laurel]

Have 1 pierce 4 and 6 Opal Jet, just small and common ships

[wispy widget]

Check #archived-learn-more and go to browser game

We have Starbased live where the utility is higher, but it requires you to strategize and manage the fleets, so recommend investigating a bit first

[wispy widget]

probably can't be super profitable with that fleet on starbased for now

[finite laurel]

Ok, Im while to buy some more ships, but cant be nothing to much expensive at the moment, any advice on what worth to buy?

[polar wren]

You should first try the game loops and see what you like more , because there are different type of ships to chose from .

[finite laurel]

Im readimg some info about the game now

[wispy widget]

There's different loops you can participate in like mining, scanning, crafting. It all really depends on what your style is.

Check out the tips for success on #archived-learn-more

[limber steeple]

see if this can be helpful as well