👽┃general

[lyric saddle]

Know this is a private beta testing phase of this 🙂

Full release is a while off yet

[cold ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZL38M2uk6s

not to much, i felt nearly asleep, but a new cadet showed up and he is lucky a full team of experts to help him out

[umbral iron]

So, no colors on the ships?

[cold ledge]

only some are fully finished yet, some are still grey box

[restive wing]

Lucky duck. Why you sleeping again…

[cold ledge]

you can check here whats coming next https://portal.productboard.com/staratlas/1-star-atlas-roadmap/tabs/2-preseason

[cold ledge]

just tired maybe i should get a coffee?

[restive wing]

Cooffeeee

[cold ledge]

deal

[barren magnet]

Prepping the turkey dinner

You?

[restive wing]

I just finished painting a Galah.

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkey-looking-at-friend-turkey-looking-at-oven-gif-7839521338030702394

https://tenor.com/view/busu4s-gif-7841533

[barren magnet]

Painting it with butter? This is what you eat for Thanksgiving where you are from?

[cold ledge]

tenor got everything i do not need google

[barren magnet]

Or like, painting it.

[restive wing]

No thanksgiving in Australia

[barren magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ross-pointing-nod-gif-13127635

[barren magnet]

Can we see your painting?

[cold ledge]

We have something called Erntedankfest 🙂

[restive wing]

It was a kit.

[cold ledge]

thats nice 🙂

[restive wing]

Lovely

[restive wing]

Yeah don’t look too close

[atomic bramble]

Me printing a LAAT gunship, 13h, 42 to go it seems 😅

[restive wing]

You’re doing it!!

[atomic bramble]

Regret starting already 😂

[cold ledge]

tenor does not have laat, which game/movie is that?

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/laat-clone-wars-star-wars-republic-gunship-gif-2562240897951169748

Its Starwars

[restive wing]

It’ll be good

[restive wing]

Battlefront days

[cold ledge]

groza will be excited

[atomic bramble]

yup

[atomic bramble]

Battlefront 2 was such a great game actually

[restive wing]

The remake is not

[atomic bramble]

they did a remake?

[barren magnet]

Nice! Looks great.

[woven condor]

Have to frame that one somewhere

[restive wing]

Yeah not worth it

[restive wing]

Thank you

[atomic bramble]

wen flags on Galia Merchants?? xD

[woven condor]

"game looks good ez flip" fast forward 3 years later

[onyx furnace]

Anyone having issues with connecting hardware wallets?Have been setting up sly today but HW wallet just wont connect after approval?

page stuck on create character

[cold ledge]

First of all do not take any direct messages, scammers will target you right now.

here is a check list for ledger - Ensure your Ledger Firmware and Solana App are both up to date.

• Ensure "Blind Signing" is enabled within the Solana App settings.

• Disconnect and shut down your Ledger

• Close the web browser completely (you can also restart your pc if you wish)

• Launch the web browser

• Navigate to play.staratlas.com

• Hard refresh the page and connect wallet

Let us know how this goes.

also make sure to have enough sol or atlas (prime enabled) in the wallet to create an account

for automation here is a nice tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8SiBoeVsko

feel free to #ticket anytime

[cold ledge]

Free ships will change every 3 days. Feel free to ask any questions, as you see lots of people here to help. Just never take any direct messages; scammers and impersonators target newcomers.

[onyx furnace]

Thanks VB.Your always quick to help out.Unfortunately nothing is working and just freezes?

if i switch to sol wallet it works

[cold ledge]

I'm not an expert with ledgers. I have one, but I'm not using it in Sage at the moment. It's probably best to create a ticket. Did you use that ledger on the main site, and is everything working there?

[spark marten]

I use ledger...can I help you..what is your problem

[next sigil]

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1845442658397049011

SpaceX (@SpaceX) on X

Mechazilla has caught the Super Heavy booster!

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 12:33 PM

LFG! To space we go soon!

[pure lynx]

@cold ledge I’ve figure out what’s happening: I start mining, and it instantly says this fleet has stopped mining, cargo is full, but that’s erroneous. It’s actually mining. If I let it go for a while and then stop mining there will be some mined materials in my cargo hold. So it’s an error. Just fyi

[cold ledge]

Thank you for the report. If you find some time, please open a ticket so the team can investigate.

#ticket

[pure lynx]

Another noob question: how do I get fuel to my fleet? I fueled it in the css, warped to a nearby station, using 57% of my fuel, and now I need to refuel. I can’t add fuel to the station from my wallet because it’s not a css. Do I need to use a different fleet to ferry fuel to each space station I will want to refuel from? How are guys moving fleets around without running out of fuel? Thanks!

[mortal lark]

subwarping would use less fuel and take longer, that is an option if you need to get back to CSS.

depending on how far you are traveling (and most imoprtantly what ship you are using), a full fuel tank will have enough fuel for a round trip, even warping. Unless you are warping from one side of your faction to the other, then you might need abit of extra fuel in your cargo hold.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit?pli=1&gid=205337066#gid=205337066 This spreadsheet is your best friend to figure out all those numbers

[cold ledge]

So, in and out of the game is only possible at the CSS. If you wanted fuel at another station, you would need to transport it there first. In one of the following updates, we will get local markets, and then you can trade fuel at every station. For now, you have to transport it yourself. Check for subwarp; it uses much less, so always ensure you return to your CSS or somewhere that has stored fuel.

[mortal lark]

As a general rule, don't warp with anything other than freight ships, transport ships are also ok, but not ideal for warping. Transport ships are better for subwarping.

[pure lynx]

Thank you. My fleet is a rainbow chi and a imp tip and it seems to be using a ton of fuel

[pure lynx]

Ah! This makes sense

[odd wedge]

GM SA -- drop your weapons and valuables at the door -- we will not give them back

[mortal lark]

Chi is a fighter, and fighters drink fuel like an alcoholic

[cold ledge]

i recommend to watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJTNQ5x-loI

[cold ledge]

@late condor is he your scholar?

[mortal lark]

Tips are also not great for warping, as a matter of fact, a tip should do nothing other than just mining, as that is its primary function, and it's the best at doing that.

[odd wedge]

your welcome to drop by first and find out

[pure lynx]

Ah. Ok.

[cold ledge]

i wont bow, somehow i have to tell this to a lot of guilds nowadays 🙂

[odd wedge]

that is fine -- but you will bend the knee

[mortal lark]

fighters can be a nice combination of subwarping and mining, so if you set a starbase as a homebase, and another starbase as the mining base, fighters can be a nice option to set them to mine, and bring back the goods to the home base, using subwarp, not warp. still heavy on the fuel, but they can be efficient miners, and they are fast when subwarping, compared to other ships.

[cold ledge]

i always suggest to do a simple loop first like mining hydrogen at the css with a fleet as big you can make it, then go from there

[late condor]

You will have the decency to cower when you talk about a 1st mate of the Skull & Bones Dire Fleet.

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-saklan-run-kaç-stealth-gif-12865871

[late condor]

Insolent mod.

[odd wedge]

has this mod been inducted to the boot of the dock ?

and why has the color of my signature changed from red to green

[cold ledge]

they changed everything in favor of the new council 🙂

[late condor]

I kinda pictured we'd tie him to the prow and use him as a hideous figurehead of sorts.

[cold ledge]

i just need to make a pact with all the punaabs in your fleet

maybe you an oni after all

i should report to the pirate king

[late condor]

I reject this preposterous allusion.

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/message-in-a-bottle-sheldon-plankton-spongebob-squarepants-transparent-glass-glass-bottle-gif-18796208

[odd wedge]

yes we know the council will never push for combat

[late condor]

Pirate King has a twisted way of showing gratitude to snitches.

[odd wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-no-marbles-gif-10583070

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/bowling-basketball-pba-nba-shoot-hoops-gif-25248123

[odd wedge]

@cold ledge i will grant you 12 hours of freedom if you change me color back to red as it was -- 4 years of waiting

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-think-i-have-enough-power-matt-cogar-red-bull-red-bull-tv-its-weak-gif-21741563

[odd wedge]

@cold ledge so who won the election anyway

[cold ledge]

jp, bodhi, bryan, funcracker and carlos

i think there is no real ustur in the council, feel free to take them down one by one 🙂

[odd wedge]

first things first -- term limits as i proposed on Wednesday

after my signature is changed to red

[cold ledge]

dominic is also oni, some sort of big conspiracy 🙂

[late condor]

I think this election may have triggered a curious resurgence of my inner german proclivity for authoritarianism.

[ember spruce]

Hello there

[odd wedge]

morning

[ember spruce]

Here evening though 😄

[odd wedge]

are you ONI

[ember spruce]

Oni?

[odd wedge]

so your new here

[ember spruce]

Yes

[pure lynx]

I’m trying to like this game, I really am. I invested a couple thousand dollars into it to get started. I’m on board. But it’s unplayable. I can’t even dock my fleets: each time to try it says transaction reverted during simulation. I’ve tried many times in two browsers. Try to scan, wallet transaction failed. Try to dock, same result. Try to subwarp to new location, same. Couldn’t be more frustrated.

[odd wedge]

hang on

[ember spruce]

Just gathering some information how to play

And i want to know the best miner ship in my budget

[odd wedge]

I can help both of you hold on

[ember spruce]

Sure thanks 👍

[restive wing]

That’s frustrating to hear and I understand your pain. I had that happen to me so many times. Refreshing helps and also make sure you have enough solana or atlas in wallet. Clear cache and close browser are also good tips.

[cold ledge]

#ticket

[odd wedge]

sent an invite to the dock we will answer your question

[cold ledge]

!guides

[sour hearth]

Here are some great community created guides that can help you get started with Star Atlas!

• https://intergalacticherald.com/star-atlas-guide/
• https://aephia.com/star-atlas-guides/
• https://galiacrafters.medium.com/star-atlas-101-i-have-20-what-can-i-do-3e9c72e421d2
• https://hologramnews.com/star-atlas-guides/

[ember spruce]

Yes I joined

[cold ledge]

I do not want to be too cautious, but please don't trust anyone messaging you, you an easy target for the scammers

[ember spruce]

Sure thanks

[cold ledge]

You, too, don't take any direct messages. Scammers and impersonators target people asking for help

[ember spruce]

You are right just lot of scammer are here

[restive wing]

Have you had food today Mr vb?

[cold ledge]

some bread with ham, not to much yet

i could make some nice burgers

you had anything exciting going on in that regard?

[restive wing]

Had really a fab rib fillet burger with some jarlsburg for lunch. And dinner was lamb shanks

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/luxurious-seinfeld-elaine-gif-22545336

[restive wing]

Isn’t it dinner time soon?

[cold ledge]

Yeah all my schedules are all over the place 🙂

[restive wing]

I buy things on sale and make it better

Well have a hearty dinner

[cold ledge]

i do the burgers, its gonna be a feast 🙂

[pure lynx]

👍

[restive wing]

Woo woo

[cold ledge]

It might be a slow response since it is Sunday, thank you for your patience

[restive wing]

It’s Monday now 😂😂😂

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-in-the-future-so-long-see-ya-safe-travels-dr-emmett-brown-gif-16500605

[tardy patio]

GM

[stray marsh]

Gm

[cold ledge]

so hurrican survived.

[stray marsh]

Indeed

How’s it going here

[cold ledge]

new council

[stray marsh]

Yeah I see that

[cold ledge]

besides that same old same old

[terse bane]

I guess there is no way of knowing

[cold ledge]

waiting for the next update

[stray marsh]

Nice

[cold ledge]

eve eye has stats

[cold ledge]

@terse bane

[terse bane]

Thx for that - I meant my own daily contributions

[cold ledge]

you would need to do some complicated math 🙂

[terse bane]

Oh I c - that’s easy enough

[atomic bramble]

Jarlsberg??

[cold ledge]

Whats that?

Also when you joining our fleets?

[restive wing]

The cheese…

Ahh typo. My bad.

[atomic bramble]

No clue you had Jarlsberg in Australia 🤣

[atomic bramble]

Next week

[restive wing]

Oh yeah. We have all the good things! It’s one of my favourites

[atomic bramble]

Looks damn fun with Egonacht as fleetcommander, ive been peeking by the discord

[atomic bramble]

Ha same here

[slow oriole]

Hello, any news on ship components? If I sell some hulls I will still get ship components later right?

[cold ledge]

Yes, if you owned them before the snapshot.

[restive wing]

Isn’t it from you though soo…

[slow oriole]

They will be sellable as well? I remember you guys said something about needing a ship to get them? I can’t remember exact quote but basically you had to run your ship through something in order to get them

[cold ledge]

Yes, it is craftable and sellable.

[atomic bramble]

Did you not know? I made it personally and shipped it off to Aus last week!

[slow oriole]

Ok, great, thanks for the quick responce

[desert beacon]

The race to 1T

[restive wing]

Perfect! Keep it up. Send salmon too Ty

[cold ledge]

which ones are you?

[desert beacon]

I’m B

[cold ledge]

impressive

[desert beacon]

Thanks, I’ve been closing the gap for a while should pass before 1t

I already have passed including other accounts but it doesn’t have the same ring to it

[gloomy elbow]

@cold ledge new bug ,hot wallet keeps closing down every time I refresh

[cold ledge]

I don't know what that means, sorry.

[topaz pine]

We got a similar report from a Rome member. Basically Atlas prime hot wallet option isn't being saved between sessions. We narrowed it down to a Chrome issue.

Started a few days ago.

This keeps toggling off.

[hallow sundial]

Double edged sword being among the first to enjoy something like this, lots of cool opportunities and lots of challenges where things don't work the way we might expect.

I find the whole thing can be quite fickle, right down to which network/device I connect. For example, if I tether to mobile I'm more likely to have failed transactions. Likewise I update Ledger and blind signing is reset and it takes me an hour to remember to revisit wallet settings.

Might need to clear the cache or CTRL+F5 it, turns out didn't like ATLAS PRIME either!

And some days it just gloriously rolls through and I have a lot of fun virtual mining on an unnamed planet 🙂

Hope it works for you soon!!!

[granite jungle]

Not easy for the small player,
Do they never learn !!
We will have 0 new players if this continues ..

[reef hawk]

1,28 euro just to claim insane !!!!

[topaz pine]

This full loop isn't really meant for a small player alone. It's not meant for anyone really. Even I would struggle to source all of those items and I'm a top 5 Starbased player.

What this will do is make the these products highly desireable at the CSS.

Loop 1: Mining and Freighting - We will see players specalizing in one or many of these lines. The ability to optimize these routes will pay off if you are clever.

Loop 2: Crafting & Market Arbitrage. Players will be able to take raw goods and combine them into the products for arbitrate opportunities to selll on the marketplace.

Loop 3: Crafting & Logistics. A player can also combine all of the ingredients to make GTs, to either sell on the market or use in the ticket drawings.

[haughty spindle]

I'm pretty sure you get the majority of that back once you sell/trade away all Power Sources 🤔

[reef hawk]

not selling thats the point

[limpid isle]

I think you are getting sol back rent accounts?

[granite jungle]

Well maybe,,we have to see then ..

[haughty spindle]

As Bryan said, the goal is specialization. If everyone could do everything themselves, half the game would go to ruin

[reef hawk]

btw there is difference in paying , if you unload your stuff with unload ALL CARGO it charges 0,57 , but if you acctualy click on to fleet and get this separated unload/load screen you pay 0,27 so its double ....

[haughty spindle]

We need the freighting, trading, etc 🙂

[haughty spindle]

I see you are using Solfare. Did you update to the latest?

There was a pretty annoying bug earlier that increased fees x5 😅

[reef hawk]

1.27 thats the latest so much i know 🤷‍♂️

btw why double charge ??! on unload all cargo

[limpid isle]

That's what makes SA so interesting!

I've changed roles several times based on what ships I own and where the opportunities are

[haughty spindle]

I'm guessing an additional rent account is created for that 🤔

[reef hawk]

dont gett it rly , i tried to start crafting 50 K power sources now and its charging 1,29 euro with additional atlas so it apsolutely makes no sense to contimue shooting my self with this kinda insane costs aint worth at all .....

[haughty spindle]

As I said, you will likely get a lot of that back. Almost all of it

[reef hawk]

how s that ?

selling ? so whats the point crafting ships or crafting golden tickets for example

ship is an type of investment tool but tickets thats pure lotery

[haughty spindle]

Depending on what you do, the game needs to temp reserves some space on the Solana chain to register certain things, sich as assets you receive, or new (craftin) jobs you start. These cost rent, but you get rent back when you no longer need it

[topaz pine]

wait what. I thought that was a UE5 seat but it looks like an IRL seat?

[haughty spindle]

The fee you are paying is exorbitant, so either you are using an old Solflare version, or it's just the rent, which will will get back at a later point. You are not going to hang on to those Power Sources forever

[haughty spindle]

UE5

Just dang good quality 😉

[topaz pine]

That is wild. Where is it from?

[static mason]

The Compakt Hero

[haughty spindle]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0l44Y8

[topaz pine]

The Solflare bug only affected tx that were on autoapprove. He's liking having tons of rent fees because he's "undocking all" which means there is a lot of stuff being unloaded, potentially into a starbase w/o the specific containers.

[dark seal]

wtf

Where did you get this

[static mason]

Siggy (of course) posted it on X

[haughty spindle]

#👽┃general message

It's from Art Station

[topaz pine]

#👽┃general message

[haughty spindle]

RenderDock posted it there

[static mason]

#👽┃general

[dark seal]

#👽┃general message

[static mason]

😂

[dark seal]

I NEED ONE

[topaz pine]

#👽┃general message

[dark seal]

[haughty spindle]

🤔 I'd say you're doing it wrong. No need to shake those.

[topaz pine]

[dark seal]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-theoden-king-of-rohan-you-have-no-power-here-gif-4952489

[topaz pine]

Been trying to make new fleets for 30 minutes.

https://tenor.com/view/whyy-noooo-cat-gif-26020991

[elfin tundra]

Do we know whats the crafting fee on golden ticket

[reef hawk]

any bugs or updates ongoing , i just lost option to connect solflare to main SA site ??!

[simple cloud]

Good evening Star Atlas

[icy vessel]

HI! How can I connect Phantom to the play.staratlas.com/market. when pressing to connect button, nothong happens.

[valid yoke]

Why do people keep asking about the tickets??? Are they going to make it so we can craft them soon or what??

[plush vessel]

most likely from this post #📢┃minor-announcements message

[valid yoke]

Appreciate that link 🙂

[plush vessel]

Do a hard Refresh and try again

[plush vessel]

As a reminder Do not trust any DMs you may get, no one official will ever DM you. no matter who they pretend to be.

[icy vessel]

Nice. My account just got emtied.

[plush vessel]

Did you give up your Seed Phrase?

[icy vessel]

In solflare

in this one. looks like scam now.

[cold ledge]

Hi, did you accept a dm?

[plush vessel]

The only official Solflare site is "Solflare . com"

[icy vessel]

Lesson learned the hard way. What now?

[plush vessel]

If you entered you Seed Pharse there , consider that Wallet (account) compermised and never use it again for anything.

[valid yoke]

All you can really do is create a new wallet and start over if you got hacked in some way

[cold ledge]

man im sorry, still open the #ticket so we at least can collect the wallets involved.

[icy vessel]

I saw everything disapearing while looking at the walet. Dumb. Dumb. In history it doesnt even show the history, where it went.

[valid yoke]

Now that is strange. That sounds more like a glitch

[icy vessel]

I opened a ticket with connection problems.

[valid yoke]

Try closing and reopening your browser?? What caused the wallet to start to drain???

[plush vessel]

In Web3 Crypto Never Trust DMs Scammers always attack there. A lot of people just turn of DMs and friend requests

[plush vessel]

They entered their seed Phase in a Scam site

[valid yoke]

Ah crap

That'll do it for sure

[plush vessel]

It will show on SolScan

[icy vessel]

A lot of crypto lost. And 2x Silver cards

[odd wedge]

@cold ledge miners are starting in the negitive -- needs fixed

[cold ledge]

Never take any direct messages!

[cold ledge]

looks like a ui bug feel free to #ticket

[elfin tundra]

Anyone has any data on profitability of scanning?

[cold ledge]

If someone had, why sharing it with you or me?

i think the trick would be lp

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-shriv-suurgav-ill-just-go-on-my-owen-then-go-on-my-own-on-my-own-gif-25714947

[reef hawk]

should i take your friend request 😉

[valid yoke]

I know the priority fee can regulate wether or not it's worth it. Just by that one factor I'd say it wouldn't really be ideal for those without scanning ships specifically. But that's a personal assessment

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-sygourney-weaver-i-say-we-take-off-and-nuke-the-entire-site-from-orbit-its-the-only-way-to-be-sure-movie-quotes-gif-11314084

[elfin tundra]

Yeah will have to give it a try 😄 I do have calico guardian which is a decent scanner

and also then fees are not too big of a problem

[valid yoke]

I was referring more to the OPOD and other ships like it that scan for free

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/for-free-sam-keeley-cooper-roback-68whiskey-paramount-network-gif-16122114

[elfin tundra]

Well the last time i was doing scanning it was profitable. But lets see

[elfin tundra]

i think no food consumed

or tool

i dont know

one of these 2 options

[valid yoke]

No items used to scan accept for standard fuel usage to move around

Gas fees and whatnot

[reef hawk]

[fresh frost]

There is also the license XP. I have one fleet scanning just for that.

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-kill-fuego-matar-incendiar-gif-5307315

[pure lynx]

This guy is trying to scam.

They’re getting around DMs being turned off by sending friend requests

And posing as mods

[pure lynx]

Don’t feel bad. It’s super easy to fall for this once. And you’ll never input your seed phrase anywhere ever again 👍

[pure lynx]

This guys a scammer

[plush vessel]

you can adjust Requests as well.

[plush vessel]

He is not on this server, you have to report him to DIscord.

[pure lynx]

I see him posting a ton

[shut minnow]

What has become sa?
Small or new player can't play or enjoy starbase

[plush vessel]

Where do you see these posts

[shut minnow]

What Is happening to this project?

[shut minnow]

Not different for what was axies at the time.
Only bot and factory can play

Small player are left alone

Shame star atlas

[plush vessel]

That is the real Vb, the one in yout Friend request is a scammer not on this server

[pure lynx]

Maybe that’s true, maybe it’s not. 🤷‍♂️

[topaz pine]

What do you mean? Is something not working for you?

[plush vessel]

The real Vb Has the orange name here on this server and look at his name.

[shut minnow]

Im a small player and i bought small ships.
Trying since 1 week to find the best strategy to play and earn peanuts on starbase.
Zero chance.
Spent more in fee that everything else.

This crap Is Just a bot allowed webgame

[plush vessel]

Here is the scammers name.

[shut minnow]

Or only for medium/big fleet

No chance for new small player

Plus Always bugs,errore,refresh Always etc etc

[dry linden]

You could try the races or FPS in web when there’s the competitions

[shut minnow]

Sorry for my words,but i got the same feeling when i was playng in axies

Bot bot bot allowed

And failed

[mortal lark]

Don't hate on Ustur

[shut minnow]

Why sa allow bot use on starbase?

Its a shame

[mortal lark]

we have feelings too

whole bot faction

part of SA lore

[shut minnow]

Yes its becoming a bot war

Not anymore a Power to the people game

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/ustur-gif-24590092

[shut minnow]

I joined a guild recently

And they told me that they use a bot

What?

[west slate]

there will be more to do when preseason is out

[shut minnow]

I Hope

[west slate]

its just that the more heavy econ side got built out first

[atomic bramble]

Devs allow it, 90% of players use it.. so to be in the game you've gotta keep up. Personally i wish it wasnt the case but it is

[dry linden]

They didn’t have VB or Dom, Wagner, DrumCarlos, The Pirates, Ratodoom, etc etc etc.

[atomic bramble]

though with more gameloops than extraction, things will evolve

[shut minnow]

I thought SA learned from the other metaverse games in pat

Past

But looks like its Just a other bot war,nothing to do for small single player that Just want to play for fun and try to earn something

[mortal lark]

If you think about it starbased is more like an RTS game, and if you really think about it, what RTS game doesn't have automation built into the game. Now of course, it's not built in, but it probably will be, eventually.

[dry linden]

Valid feelings but results seem to disagree.. thanks for waking up chat😁

[shut minnow]

Eheheh thanks

[topaz pine]

theres no real competition from bots. You are free to earn on your own. Like they aren't taking from you. What is your gameplay strategy right now?

[west slate]

yeah we need the ue5 burn loops

[mortal lark]

It would only be a problem if there was actual cheating going on, which isn't the case atm, and unlike other games, there is no real benefit in running 1k different accounts, as you need to spend real $$$ on assets to produce anything anyway.

[west slate]

that will eat a lot of the sage production

crew just came out and are not even getting exp yet

the airdrop for ship components still has not happened

so clearly the team has a lot more work to do for the game to be at the state where its possible for smaller players to actually feel like its a game

a lot of the future game loops involve stuff that is just not done yet

like a fleet needs to have 20-30k cargo min to be profitable, anything split below that is going to spend more on fees then it can possibly earn

crew if you just have it sitting at the css crafting stuff you buy off of the market is the lowest possible inital investment as you don't need a lot of crew to cover tx fees, it just takes a lot more time with low crew counts to do that

[icy vessel]

Yes. That was good lesson. I'm still angry at me. New wallets made, wont fill them up for at least a month. No gaming, crypto, breakfast 🙂 I managed to get out 0.05447 sol

[serene willow]

So, I finally went and checked this number. A Maxhog fleet (just an example) breaks even mining hydro at 7 ships in the fleet. That's 15.4k cargo.

5 Hogs to break even at titanium

Damn, Hogs are awesome.

[west slate]

the 20k number is about any ship ie optimized fleet, yes I know the narow profit margin is a bit lower however 20k is the goal most players should be looking at, as it also covers things like fee spikes and mistakes

as well as any weird market stuff

the only outlyer would be scanning for that number

ie this is about poeople using what they have on hand or buying stuff that they think looks cool etc

[serene willow]

Yeah, I know. Was just curious to actually check on that, cause we all keep repeating that number (myself included).

Now I wanna do that for all ships

But... Technically

[west slate]

yeah the math has also upated as atlas went up a bit etc

[serene willow]

With the exception of very few ships (and XXS, of course), break even is probably lower than I'd assume, for mining. Of course, APR is super low in these cases (close to the break-even threshold).

[west slate]

still it seems that 20k is the universal "safe" nuumber

as it can just stay that way regardless of what else is going on

at least thats the trend

[serene willow]

Looks like 36 Hogs is the current meta for entry level

That's crazy

[west slate]

yeah as that can be split into a few fleets

or kept as 1 fleet

[serene willow]

Nah, I mean, a full 36 Hog fleet

To optimize fees

[west slate]

well yeah

a single big fleet will earn more then if its split up

[serene willow]

$1.12/day at titanium

(profit, fees/r4 accounted for

[west slate]

still it can be split up and still be profitable if someone wants to do something more complex

[serene willow]

That's solid

[west slate]

I would still throw 1 tip in there if you can though

[serene willow]

Nope

Tip are a LOT worse

Like, 30% worse. Not kidding

It's crazy how Hogs changed the scene

[west slate]

yeah but less ammo consumption

[serene willow]

Irrelevant

That $1.12 is accounting for r4 usage + sol fees

[west slate]

really, carting ammo out is still more time consuming

[serene willow]

You don't need to

[west slate]

I mean you need to cart it out or craft it

[serene willow]

SLY does it. Set base as css, target as the mining base. It reloads at css

[west slate]

ether way thats time

[serene willow]

Bro... No.

Lol

[west slate]

oh your mining and going back to the css each time

[serene willow]

This $1.12 involves no crafting at all

It's $1.12 profit

All costs accounted for

Buying everything at market

(fuel, food and ammo)

This is for titanium

[west slate]

yeah thats only going to work with sly

trying to do that manual is not going to work well at all

[serene willow]

Based only works with SLY. Period

There's no manual Based. It's not a game. It's an automated econ loop, that requires some manual interaction, but the bulk is automated. It's by design.

These short cycles answer that. There's no amount of manual playing that can withstand (profitably) 20min mining cycles, or 100sec scanning cooldowns.

[mortal lark]

SLY should just be a feature of based at this point, lol

[serene willow]

It kinda is

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/liam-neeson-i-wish-that-were-so-i-wish-star-wars-gif-5342390

[serene willow]

If anyone is even considering Based without SLY, just go to another project. And I mean this very respectfully.

Lol

Short cycles are the one biggest flaw in Based, and the absolute biggest cause of $ draining through fees.
SLY just makes it bearable.

[west slate]

if we had the burn loops we know the team has planned up based would work a lot better

[topaz pine]

stolen

This is incognito mode.

[serene willow]

Awesome, help me out reaching FR

No $ involved

[topaz pine]

go buy some polis

[serene willow]

🤣

[topaz pine]

i know you have like 1000 ships

it would take you a day

[serene willow]

It's what, 80k PVP?

[topaz pine]

yeah. $1200 bucks

[serene willow]

I have 2k Polis locked already

[topaz pine]

okay thats pricier then i expected

[serene willow]

Oh yeah

I speak in terms of Mamba EXs now

That's 4

[mortal lark]

Lerinor is max extractor 😛

[serene willow]

Too much

[west slate]

short cycles are not a big issue for transaction count as its income per transaction that matters not number of transactions a day, short cycles are an issue for manual because it takes babysitting the game

[serene willow]

I very strongly disagree

Money is being sucked out of the ecosystem. Period

And not just little money

[mortal lark]

tx are always going to be a problem, until they are eliminated

[serene willow]

A LOT, considering how many transactions happen

[west slate]

yes but if we had longer cycles but all the other numbers were the same it would be the same just less per day

[serene willow]

Oh yeah. Also, I'm a grinder... There's some elegance about reaching it through lvl 45

[topaz pine]

dont worry part of it is coming back to me and im putting it back into the ecosystem 🙂

[west slate]

cost / income is what you should be looking at

[topaz pine]

And if you consider the JUP/Kamino drops... a lot of money is going back into SA from the Solana ecosystem.

[west slate]

the only factor time has is if its more viable to do some other project

[topaz pine]

• Pyth

[serene willow]

And how is that any bad? "Just less per day"? Double cycles = half spent. Triple cycles, 1/3

I'm an advocate for MUCH longer cycles. Like, 5x. That would actually make scripting less relevant.

As a side effect

[west slate]

what I am saying is the issue with the tx is not the cycle time

longer cycles just make it take longer, note that makes it better for manual

but does nothing else asside from giving people who don't want to automate a slightly better playing feild

the actual tx drain per cycle is exactly the same

[serene willow]

No. If the ecosystem is bleeding $ through unnecessary fees, it's losing value to it. It could be better. Profitable or not, on the long run, that's $ that could be applied elsewhere

[west slate]

yes thats cost/income

the tx /day does not really factor into it

if the income per day is less due to less transactions

because thats all longer cycles would do effectivly

[mortal lark]

are you assuming that longer cycles would drive prices down ?

[serene willow]

Bro... No. Absolutely no. Lol

If a cycle takes 5x more time, I'm doing 1/5 transactions per day.

That's 1/5 fee costs

[west slate]

no, I'm saying prices would be the same

[serene willow]

That's plain math

[west slate]

thats on tx per day that has jack to do with income per tx

[serene willow]

Omg...

[west slate]

if all the other numbers stay the same the actual price of items stays the same

[mortal lark]

it would only makes sense if you are assuming that with longer cycles, prices would go down, if prices remain the same, why would you be spending the same on tx fees percentage wise with longer cycles, makes no sense ?

[west slate]

meaning your getting the same return even with longer cycles

[serene willow]

No

No

Absolutely not

Lol

[limpid isle]

Hi Lerinor, how's your day going?

[west slate]

umm income is earned by selling if the price per unit is the same then longer cycles just makes it take longer to get the same income, if each cycle takes 6 tansactions the return per cycle stays where it is

[serene willow]

Remember that Hog fleet example?

[mortal lark]

you would be spending less on tx fees with longer cycles, that is just objective, lol

[west slate]

that has nothing to do with the return per cycle though

less cycles per day means less income per day

nothing actually changes

[serene willow]

With 5x longer cycles, daily profit would go from $1.12 to $1.25

[mortal lark]

ok, i think i get it, you are assuming longer cycles, but same production output, i think that is where the argument is at

i think we are talking about longer cycles, but more production output as well

[serene willow]

Bro, longer cycles, with adjusted cargo holds

Meaning everything yields the same

Just requires oess transactions

[west slate]

not if all the numbers stay the same, longer cycles also translates into adding travel time as thats part of the math

[serene willow]

Ok, let me rephrase because I thought it was implied

[west slate]

longer cycles means everything slows down

[serene willow]

Longer cycles = everything adjuted for same output. Cargo holds and travel times, essentially.

[west slate]

they are not going to make mining cycles a lot longer but keep travel the same

[mortal lark]

yeah, the rules need to be defined, no wonder there is a misunderstanding, lol

[west slate]

thats not exactly how it works, the cost to produce stays the same

[serene willow]

I've actually run those numbers just for "fun" before.

[west slate]

meaning the actual sale value would not go up by a lot if it goes up at all

because it would take longer to do everything

[serene willow]

Ok, Jith. Pause for a minute. Let me explain what I'm trying to say better. 😁

[shut bramble]

@topaz pine can I steal one of Michelle’s recipes

[serene willow]

Let's assume this scenario: ship A has 10 mining power, 10k cargo, and takes 1h to travel from A to B

Adjust all variables so that, with less transactions, it would yield the same output at the end of the day.

[west slate]

the fact is less transactions would not yeild the same output

[serene willow]

Hang on

Please

Let me wrap it up

[west slate]

because the actual caps remain the same

[serene willow]

If you multiply cargo hold by 5, that means ship A would take 5x the time fill it up

(not messing with mining power, because that's the underlying emission rate)

[west slate]

yes, but they are not going to do that, they would just adjust the time that it takes to fill the existing cargo hold

thats the point

[serene willow]

Now, instead of docking, undocking, reloading, blah blah, 5x, it does it once. And mining the exact same amount

[west slate]

yeah that would, but thats not how the current system is set up

[serene willow]

And the same adjustment would be need for travel times

[west slate]

if they 5x the time it takes they keep the current numbers they just make it take 5x the time and nothing changes

[serene willow]

I know. And that's exactly what I'm criticizing. The current system.

[serene willow]

Just to make it clear. When I say "longer cycles", I mean bigger cargo holds + slower traveling.

[west slate]

that would take a complete econ overhaul

[serene willow]

That would actually cut fees enormously

[west slate]

they are not going to do that

[serene willow]

I know

I'm not proposing a solution. They never listen anyway

[mortal lark]

i dunno if econ overhaul is maybe abit exaggerated, lol

[serene willow]

I'm just saying the system conception is flawed. It's a bad heritage from Escape Velocity.

[west slate]

I mean the way we do that is adding more ships to our fleets

[mortal lark]

maybe they would have to restructure the code, the econ would remain the same

[serene willow]

And when I say 5x, it's a big exaggeration. Even a 2x would actually cut fees a lot

[mortal lark]

i would be more worried if things are so set in stone they can't change things at all, I am more under the impression that things are setup to be able to change things freely as is necessary

[serene willow]

But exactly. Econ emissions would remain exactly the same. Exactly. To the decimals (with some exceptions on less lost time to transaction delays, but that's minimal)

[west slate]

if they could package transactions somehow that would do that

[serene willow]

Nope

There's no way to package transactions as they're set now

Because they don't happen simultaneously

[west slate]

it takes 6 transactions for the average loop not counting refills on fuel and ammo, if that was cut in half it would change a lot

[serene willow]

Unless you mean package through the entire ecosystem.

That would be cool

But... 5x cargo holds and 1/5 travel speed would be a LOR easier. Haha!

[west slate]

I lnow why its hard to package them because the order matters

[serene willow]

Yep

[west slate]

however if they find a way around that it would help

[serene willow]

Longer cycles

That's the way around that for now

🙃

[west slate]

and that is only done by adding more ships

ie why its a whales game right now

if they increased max fleet size it would help a bit but only for whales

[serene willow]

I mean actually changing mechanics, not adding ships.

Adding ships is not "longer cycles". It's literally cutting profits by investing more

[mortal lark]

adding ships doesn't increase cycles

[west slate]

the point is its not cycles its volume

more volume same time with same overall return would be the same effect

[serene willow]

We're talking about 2 completely different things

[mortal lark]

there is a progression game of sorts, cuz max fleet size scales with ships size as well.

in terms of production output

[serene willow]

I don't care about profitability in this matter. I care about closing the drain that fee costs are.

[mortal lark]

yeah, there are two arguments going on, lol

they are two seperate topics, to be sure

[serene willow]

Yep

[west slate]

the point is the 2 can't be seprarated

as the smaller players are going to care about the return per transaction because they have to

[serene willow]

Of course high fees can be countered by more assets/bigger fleets. But the hemorrhaging still remains

Ok, let me change the angle

Do you agree that fees are a big problem?

If you could have the same revenue, but paying 1/5 of current fees, would that be nice?

[west slate]

I mean yeah, were forced to buld fleets around the fee structure - that should not be happening

[west slate]

the fact is that is ultimatly about volume at that point

not tx per day

[serene willow]

That's not what I asked, lol

I literally presented a way that would fix that, with no changes to the econ loop

[west slate]

I mean the clear answer is yes

however the fact is thats a volume issue not a tx count / day issue

[serene willow]

Because let's face it. No one actually "plays" based. It's not a game.

[serene willow]

Nope. It's both

I'm talking about the fee aspect of it. The volume aspect brings in other angles to look at and improve.

And I agree, volume counters fees

[west slate]

what your talking about would require an econ rework that may not actualy give the results you are thinking it will

[serene willow]

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't look at both

Well, the "volume" approach also didn't. We're losing players consistently

[west slate]

like we can't just x2 everything and have it work as its working now

doing that will change the actual prices on the market

[serene willow]

And holy shit, I was rude... Hey bro! Great day here! 🙏🙃

[serene willow]

Why not?

[serene willow]

How so?

If each asset would yield absolutely the exact same thing at the end of the day

To the decimals

[west slate]

a flat x on the current game in both time and cargo would change a lot more then is imidiatly apparent

[serene willow]

How so?

[west slate]

the current market prices are a byproduct of the actual fee cost to produce

[serene willow]

Emissions would be identical

Literally identical

[west slate]

by flat lowering that it changes that dynamic and would likely drive prices down

[serene willow]

Nope

Up

[mortal lark]

current market prices are whack already, so it wouldn't matter much, tbh

[serene willow]

Because now we'd be paying less fees, and APR rises

[west slate]

current market prices are how you mesure earnings so yes it matters

the question is does it

[mortal lark]

the prices people list stuff at on the market atm, doesn't make much sense at all in the grand scheme of things

[serene willow]

Please explain to me why it would fall, while everything would yiles the same?

[west slate]

your thiniking it does, it might drop prices a lot lower as it also increases the amount of fleets that can do more complex stuff

[serene willow]

Like, for real. I'm trying to understand your logic on this one

[west slate]

law of unintended consiquences

things don't always work the way we think they will

it might work, it might blow up in our faces and ruin the economy

[serene willow]

Totally, but I'm trying to understand how it would fall, if they're literally be more profitable

[west slate]

there is no way of saying it would

[serene willow]

Well, do it progressively. 10% increments

[west slate]

because your increasing the amount of players that have access

[serene willow]

(I'm just randomly tossing numbers here)

[west slate]

also flat multiplyers actually help whales a lot more too

[mortal lark]

isn't this the end goal, lol

[serene willow]

My point is, we have this hardset mentality that "it is what is, and not fixable". It is fixable. Very.

[west slate]

yes but more people producing lowers prices

meaning the entire thing would require a ground up econ rework

the numbers are balanced as they are for a reason

[serene willow]

Ok, how can I actually make it clear that what I'm saying involves literally ZERO changes in emission rates. It wouldn't favor whales. It would ONLY reduce fee costs for EVERYONE.

[mortal lark]

not if they built it right, i mean, supposedly, this economic structure is built to withstand billions of users

why are we all of a sudden worried about upscaling, sounds weird

[limpid isle]

Sending you some positive energy my friend!

[west slate]

yes but thats with the current numbers

[mortal lark]

flawed argument if that's the focal point

[west slate]

your talking about massiivly changing those numbers

even if its "to scale"

[serene willow]

The numbers aren't balanced. They arrived at where they have because that's our current state. We lost a considerable amount of players, and several because of fees. Any and all solutions to fee costs should be welcome

[mortal lark]

onboarding will get easier, at least that is the objective, and elimination of fees is likely to be number one priority in that field, which has the same or even better end result than longer cycles, how do you reconcile ??

[west slate]

the fact is that a flat x2 is not necessarily going to help

[mortal lark]

if you are worried about more users driving prices down, buckle your seatbelts, lmfao

[serene willow]

I'm talking about literally not changing anything in the end, but cutting fees while at it.

[limpid isle]

I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, but is it possible for Sly to pack more instructions into transactions, which would help reduce the dock/reply/undock loop?

[west slate]

the point is that its not going to necessarily increase the return per transaction in a way that actually increases the roi

[serene willow]

It would cut fees by 1/2. That Hog example would jump from $1.12/day to $1.2.

That's significant!

[mortal lark]

are you under the impression that current economic model is taking tx fees into account ?

[west slate]

it also has other consiquences

[serene willow]

Wrong. VERY wrong

[mortal lark]

because in my humble opinion, i doubt they are taking fees into account

because if they were, then XXS ships would have way bigger output

[serene willow]

And what are they?

[west slate]

the fact is the econ team would need to rework the econ model if they increase the cargo capacity accross the board

[mortal lark]

to imply that ATMTA setup the economic infrastructure to account for Solana fees is flawed, IMHO

[west slate]

have any of you taken calculus

[mortal lark]

considering the fact that entry barrier is around $500 to $1k currently, doubt that is intended design

[serene willow]

By all means, they should do it then. Our current status is an aberration...

[mortal lark]

do you think the econ team setup the economy taking sol fees into account ?

[serene willow]

I'm an engineer, with some time in economy, and some time in actual math. 🤷🏻‍♂️🙃

[mortal lark]

because if you think they did, then explain why XXS ships production output is not waaay higher than it currently is ??

[west slate]

I am saying that the econ team would need to redo the entire econ model if they are going to increase the output per transaction as stuff in a flat times x is not necessarily going to scale the way you think it does

this is basic math

[serene willow]

Nope

Baisc math is, scalability is a thing

[west slate]

lol right

[serene willow]

If it's predictably scalable, it is. Period

[west slate]

it does not work that way ever

[serene willow]

Now, I agree that every change brings unforseen elements

[mortal lark]

i still think that to suggest that SA economy is taking sol fees into account is a flawed thought, clearly it was not taken into account because if it were, there would not be such a massive entry barrier

[serene willow]

But... Fuck that. We need changes

We're in shambles

Every econ forum the team keeps repeating "econ is great"

Yeah... We have a GREAT retention factor. Except we don't.

Every new face arrives, hits a freaking wall, and goes away

[west slate]

its about perspective

[serene willow]

And guess one of the main "bricks" in the wall?

Fees

[west slate]

the metrics they are looking at it is, the metrics your looking at its not

[serene willow]

It's ridiculous that ships run negative. And not just single XXS

[serene willow]

The one metric that matters for this matter is the fact that people are leaving. And not just small players.

[mortal lark]

the fact is that sol fees are a problem, ATMTA has acknowledged that, so it seems silly to think that everything's hunky dory when even the team knows it needs work. we'll get there

[west slate]

yeah I get it a single small ship should run positive, however fixing that is not going to be a simple thing

[serene willow]

Agreed

So, back to my first statement: Labs was conceived under a crazy ridiculously bad premise of short cycles

And it should've been adressed early on

Like, for fucks sake, we still have less than 2min cooldowns for scanning. That is ridiculous

[west slate]

the catch is scaling that out is not a 1:1 ratio

[serene willow]

🤷🏻‍♂️ I give up trying to demonstrate that it actually is. Lol

Messing with cycle times is such an elegant solution...

Oh well. Thanks for the chat

[west slate]

the fact is its not a simple x2 or whatever thats going to help

[mortal lark]

we know they have the levers in place, at least we should hope they do, if they know what they're doing

[serene willow]

Gotta go make dinner

[limpid isle]

I hope it's good!!!

[serene willow]

They've adjusted emissions before

So they have it

Anyway

Later, fellow masochists

🫠

[mortal lark]

cheerio

[limpid isle]

Maybe they'll have unmanned mining rigs that will run continuously as long as the star base has enough ammunition

[serene willow]

P.S.: Golden Tickets are NOT the answer!

[serene willow]

Pizza! But homemade.

[plush vessel]

Is using Atlas Pime still considered a more expensive option to choose?

[limpid isle]

Fuck yea! Treat yo self

[serene willow]

It's super bad

15% premium, + a bad conversion rate to SOL.

[limpid isle]

I appreciate the civil discussion peeps.

[serene willow]

Always!

[west slate]

its a 4 month stop gap to get the team past the holiday / beginning of the year stuff

and rfrs are the stop gap between end of the event and whatver comes next

[tired sundial]

Mmmm I've been playing off the grid all day, it may be the first battle royale I actually enjoy :)I feel half USTUR , I only wish I ould have four arms, can't wait to play some campaings in SA

[west slate]

yeah preseason looks cool

hope they actually get some of it out this year

[topaz pine]

I don't think this is true anymore. As long as you have SOL in your vault then it uses SOL for rental accounts. It's been awhile since we had this discussion so I don't remember the details exactly.

[topaz pine]

It's really not. I use atlas prime all the time.

Make sure you have a balance in your SOL vault.

[west slate]

there is still the up charge, however I do see that at scale it becomes meaningless

but then again for me its easier to just use sol then atlas

[topaz pine]

agreed, the up charge is fairly deminimis when its being used for TX only. The big problem is when you use it for rent accounts. And I just figured out that I had withdrawn my sol vault a few days ago. No wonder the 80+ fleets I made today kept draining my atlas. Ha.

[topaz pine]

if you are a on ledger its significantly easier to use atlas prime

[west slate]

yeah, I know as it allows automation

so the cost aspect becomes more moot

still for me its better to just use sol

as I am passively getting a lot more sol then I am getting atlas as most of what I am doing is building maxhogs for personal use

[topaz pine]

atlas prime doesn't affect/allow automation. completely seperate things. It has nothing to do w/ automation really.

Well, I suppose someone could have a ledger and use a clicker bot w/ Atlas prime on. But it would just be easier to use SLY.

[west slate]

atlas prime allows for the seprate hot wallet, that in turn allows the use of automation tools

[topaz pine]

thats not exactly true. You dont need atlas prime to use SLY. They dont interact in any way.

atlas prime is for the Sage/Starbased UI

[west slate]

yeah i know sly has its own version of the profile system that lets it work

[topaz pine]

i dont know of anyone using Atlas prime to automate.

it would be vastly inferior to SLY if they were.

Its just a completely different tool

[west slate]

yeah I know

still the primary issue with ledger is having to click, that prevents a lot of stuff

still I have a small enough fleet that needing to interact with the ledger is not as much of an issue as trying to keep an atlas balance for fees

[untold needle]

is there a quick intro or tutorial for how to get started with sage labs? I can't really tell what it is for, how it works, or what im supposed to be doing once I click the sage labs button

[topaz pine]

thats a scam. dont create a ticket there

[plush vessel]

you can try this

!sagetutorial

[sour hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2k1CYglsI

[plush vessel]

As a reminder Do not trust any DMs you may get, no one official will ever DM you. no matter who they pretend to be.

[untold needle]

if I pull a faction fleet out of enlistment will it give me crew members? i've had them in the faction fleet almost 1000 days

[plush vessel]

your crew should have been droped to your account already

[untold needle]

ah i see them

[fresh frost]

Yeah, I use both. Sly for automation and Prime for manual. That way, I only have to authorize on my ledger to extract money or assets from Starbased.

[plush vessel]

There are these guides as well.

!guides

[sour hearth]

Here are some great community created guides that can help you get started with Star Atlas!

• https://intergalacticherald.com/star-atlas-guide/
• https://aephia.com/star-atlas-guides/
• https://galiacrafters.medium.com/star-atlas-101-i-have-20-what-can-i-do-3e9c72e421d2
• https://hologramnews.com/star-atlas-guides/

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-same-samesies-agree-agreed-gif-7402185

[serene willow]

How is Prime dealing with creating/disbanding fleets? Cause last time I tried, it drained so much Atlas

Like, an obscene amount

That's why I stopped using it, mostly.

[restive wing]

If no one answers, I’ll test it in 10 for you.

[limber steeple]

tbh, I just tried it like a couple of times, but decided to just use sol for txn fees.

[restive wing]

So leaving fuel, food and ammo on board starting at 722 Atlas disbanded is still 722...

[limber steeple]

especially since ATLAS needs to be rebased from SOL from time to time

[restive wing]

1 Atlas to form new

[limber steeple]

but that's just me. just want to be consistent on txn fees across the platform

[fresh frost]

Prime charges a 10% over Solana fees. Rents are paid in Sol, but fees in Atlas

it's 100% worth it if you use ledger.

Because that 10% is just a few lamports

[dry linden]

So what’s the prizes for new GTs? And when/ how long for?

[fresh frost]

https://tenor.com/view/spaceship-lego-space-astronaut-excited-gif-15000835

I want a Tankship...

[mellow sinew]

no SDU at golden ticket?

[dry linden]

Nope!

Probably in RFRs

[placid jungle]

Can I send my ship nft to someone via just wallet address? not marketplace.

[desert beacon]

yes

[rustic hamlet]

Yes you can try it with me 😂

[placid jungle]

thanks 🙂

[desert beacon]

yep, has to be the normal wallet address, you cant send them directly into the game without going through css

[placid jungle]

Thank you for the detailed explanation 🫡

[west slate]

if you try to send things directly into a sage adress the token gets burned more or less regardless of what it is

because this is crypto and there is nothing that mechanically prevents you from sending tokens like that

[valid yoke]

It likely lands in the address still, but they either auto burn it with a smart contract or redistribute it in some way

[west slate]

when this came up a while ago the team was clear that there is no real way to access the token so when the account gets closed the extra tokens just get burned

[valid yoke]

Ah so it's more like a burner wallet attached to our own wallets then

Only allowed access is through the UI and such I am sure

[west slate]

so anything thats not delegated via the proper programs is effectively gone

yeah security mesures, helps make sure our stuff does not get hacked etc

I mean we can create our own uis to interact with the on chain programs

thats the fun part about this, its flexable and secure

also messes with scammers that bulk send out those loot box type fake nfts

[valid yoke]

I miss the old days of getting free Sol from the scammers

[west slate]

yeah that got fixed unfortunatly

[wet shore]

starcom down?

[west slate]

don't think so

I mean its been buggy since around breakpoint

or perhaps it is

[late condor]

I found out the other day that all those are finally burnable on sol incinerator.

spent an hour of my life to get rid of 'em all.

[west slate]

the issue is it costs to remove them

and they just keep sending them

[late condor]

yes

but no

I haven't received any new ones

[west slate]

yet

[valid yoke]

I bet now that you've said something yer gonna end up getting a whole bunch

[late condor]

[valid yoke]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/marshmallow-hot-cocoa-hot-chocolate-falling-in-gif-9088897

For your blanky

[rustic hamlet]

I received those "free stuff" from scammers too

I'll just wait for it to reach 1m and delete it all together

[late condor]

you can only delete 30 at a time

or was it 25?

There's a limit it's got something to do with computing or someshit.

[valid yoke]

It's a badge of honor to have over 1 million imo

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[rustic hamlet]

Well that sucks

[late condor]

yes it's quite laborious to burn them all

[rustic hamlet]

It's like they're sending us some work to do for weekends

[late condor]

it was around the jupiter airdrop

I hope there won't be a resurgence of scams this January. xD

[mental relic]

👋

[late condor]

many more people are aware of Jupiter this time around, it's probably gonna be scammer's season

[valid yoke]

Something special going on in January?

[rustic hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/we-may-never-know-katrin-jaeger-fbi-international-we-will-never-know-we-wont-find-out-gif-26087603

[late condor]

Well they'll airdrop more JUP again

ofc

[valid yoke]

To people who use the swap?

[late condor]

supposedly

[valid yoke]

Sweet

I didn't keep any for staking lol

[late condor]

requirements won't be disclosed until after the snapshot that is supposedly going to be sometime in November again.

[valid yoke]

I bought ships

I has an addiction

[late condor]

me neither dumped it all within the minute

$13k

[valid yoke]

You guys all got way more than I did lol

[late condor]

Still won't forgo all that you've got.

[valid yoke]

I got like 8 or so between Pyth and Jup lol

[west slate]

not sure how well i'll do on the jup airdrop this time, however I am getting from the gov stuff there

assuming they do one

[late condor]

free money is free money.

If you complain about free money because you feel it's not enough free money, the issue is with you and not with the free money.

so I'll happily grab & dump whatever I receive

[west slate]

yeah, I'm not upset about free money

the gov stuff would balanace the scales if I was regardless

and yes I will vote for an airdrop if I see it in time to do so

I missed the chance to vote on a few things

[late condor]

missed every vote because I own no JUP

dumped it all

for a gaming rig and a D9

[west slate]

nice

[late condor]

Gonna name the D9 the "SBS Dump Chump"

[strong cliff]

Offthegrid stole the limelight. Guess they did a good job on KOLs to push it.

[mental relic]

👋

[rustic hamlet]

[whole helm]

GM

[torn crest]

Gm frens ☕

[rustic hamlet]

Gm

[sick iron]

GM SA family

[sick iron]

I think that they are different styles of gaming projects... and in reality the crypto gaming narrative needs a BIG hit to draw attention to the whole space. That should be good for us here in SA! 🤷‍♂️

[random rapids]

Good morning people

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-its-monday-happy-monday-monday-good-morning-gif-8681553217243047437

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/gm-gmdaily-good-morning-gm-daily-kids-day-gif-8456937219847437629

[reef hawk]

Starcom dead ?

[cold ledge]

i just send a fleet, let me try refresh

[reef hawk]

cant even log in

[cold ledge]

i see, you use a vpn?

[reef hawk]

nope

[cold ledge]

well the usual clear cache restart the browser did also not work i guess?

[reef hawk]

got in finally 🙄

[cold ledge]

ah ok

[limpid isle]

Good morning my fellow F5ers 🚀

[crude pollen]

Anyone know how much legendary crew is worth now?

[topaz pine]

check tensor

[cold ledge]

about 1 sol, but depends on the traits a lot

[sick iron]

cheapest on tensor listed is at 1.04 sol

[limpid isle]

I found 10 crew in couch cushions this morning 🙏

[crude pollen]

Thank you

[sick iron]

send me some...

[limpid isle]

I'll check the other couch.

[sick iron]

please do

lol

[limpid isle]

(I thought I was missing 10)

[sick iron]

damn, making me want to go check...

[limpid isle]

https://tenor.com/view/goof-goofsworld-goofs-whip-get-back-to-work-gif-8741543320209550771

[elfin tundra]

GM

[unkempt swift]

Ive been away from this game for a long time and now dont have a clue what is going on and it seem very unintuitive. So I got a silver pack, transferred it to sage as the gane suggested I do that

Ive gone into sage and where do I view the crew

and what do I even do, there is just a map

Where is the help or tutorial

[woven condor]

!guides

[sour hearth]

Here are some great community created guides that can help you get started with Star Atlas!

• https://intergalacticherald.com/star-atlas-guide/
• https://aephia.com/star-atlas-guides/
• https://galiacrafters.medium.com/star-atlas-101-i-have-20-what-can-i-do-3e9c72e421d2
• https://hologramnews.com/star-atlas-guides/

[woven condor]

Check links above for some tutorials 🙂

[unkempt swift]

thanks

which of the guides is best to find out about the crew member I just purchased and put into sage

[hallow sundial]

If they've gone into Sage then you should find them at the CSS and on the left-hand side select "point of entry", looking for the "crew" tab. From there you get to decide if you want to import them into the game or send them away to Tensor to trade them, etc.

Guides shared are an excellent place to learn more about what you can/can't do with them!

[limpid isle]

Welcome back Otter 👋

[unkempt swift]

Hi

[limpid isle]

Crew can be used to either man ships OR crafting resources (ex: craft Fuel from Hydrogen)

[unkempt swift]

Well I cant find the crew member so I guess I need to follow the guides

Everything is empty, its pretty much the first time ive logged into sage

[limpid isle]

There are some great guides which are a great place the start. If you have any question, there are many members here that are always happy to help and give tips, especially around food/breakfast.

[unkempt swift]

I am in sage labs not the starbase

[limpid isle]

based.staratlas.com

[unkempt swift]

Yes thats right, is there a good guide for this

[woven condor]

If you sent them into SAGE they are counted in your idle crew at CSS

[woven condor]

Yes check out aephia guides

[limpid isle]

Oh, and don't take any private DMs from people - scammers approach via dm

[woven condor]

they made a guide on crew members and a manual for Starbased gameplay

link is above

[cold ledge]

Hi, you import them via port of entry on your css

https://aephia.com/star-atlas/crew-the-complete-guide/

https://aephia.com/star-atlas/starbased-the-missing-manual/

[limpid isle]

but wen do they breed and multiply like locust? 😼

[cold ledge]

the guides not full include the crew transfer but its similiar to ships and resources.

[cold ledge]

well first i need female ustur

or however that works

[limpid isle]

hmmmmmm

Sounds like an Anomly Ustur...

[cold ledge]

i blame @tall lava no info about halos or female ustur, we only can speculate

[hallow sundial]

I think it's a big spoon, little spoon kind of deal, with "body 1" and "body 2" haha

[limpid isle]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-optimus-prime-bumblebee-80s-hugging-gif-16742731

[unkempt swift]

So apparenty I have airdrops, I select the airdop and Phantom wallet pops up asking to confirm the transaction. I click confirm and nothing, I just wait and wait and wait and wait and...

[cold ledge]

wait wait wait thats scams

never ever do that

uuugh i hope nothing happened yet

#ticket

[unkempt swift]

oh ok

[cold ledge]

thats how they drain your wallet and take everything you own

what airdrop and where did you see it

never connect your wallet to unknown sites

[unkempt swift]

In my inventory

[cold ledge]

ah thank god

[unkempt swift]

so is that not a scam?

[cold ledge]

so you saw it in your inventory?https://play.staratlas.com/inventory/

[unkempt swift]

Yes

[cold ledge]

ok you need a bit of sol in the wallet to claim these

like at least 0.003 i think

[unkempt swift]

I have 0,35

[cold ledge]

So, does it look similar to this?

[unkempt swift]

Yes, i think it was a phantom issue as the confirm button works now and I have 42 packs

I need to read the guides I think as ive already lost 1 crew, I dont want to lose the other 42

[cold ledge]

you cant loose anything on chain, how you "lost" 1 crew?

you open the packs and they transform into cnft

feel free to #ticket

[cold ledge]

do not take any direct messages scammers and impersonators will target you right now, if you see a vb its not me

[unkempt swift]

Oh, Ive just sent all the packs over to somebody to open for me, he said hed send them all back as crew

Only joking.

[limpid isle]

lol

[unkempt swift]

Im not sure if its me, my pc or what. I am in crew packs in play, staratlas and I can see 4 gold packs and 38 silver packs on the desk. But I cant interact with anything on the screen to select them or open them

I can view them in invetory but cant open them there either.

[cold ledge]

https://play.staratlas.com/crew/#packs

thats the site to open them

[unkempt swift]

Yes thats the page I am on

[cold ledge]

on the left you should see the packs you can open

click on these

[unkempt swift]

I think I might reboot the pc and start again, clicking does nothing

All I see is the folders in the trays on the desk

[unkempt swift]

nope, thats missing

[unkempt swift]

First part is missing

[cold ledge]

hold ctrl and press f5 reconnect the wallet

[unkempt swift]

I am using edge as a browser

[cold ledge]

well try another browser maybe chrome brave firefox, but it should work on all

[restive wing]

👋

[unkempt swift]

Back soon, juse going to reboot

[cold ledge]

How is the Monday in Australia so far?

[restive wing]

Should be over but not

[cold ledge]

Busy day?

[restive wing]

Yeah always

[random rapids]

For those interested in following ATOM on X ( the Naabathon winner) here is the page.
Here’s also a short video of ATOM in action.
Just a speed test.

https: //x.com/atom_tool/status/1845785797334614232?s=46

[cold ledge]

x should work here

[restive wing]

How’s motherland?

[cold ledge]

It's not too bad; for me, it's a relatively slow start to the week.

[random rapids]

https://x.com/atom_tool/status/1845785797334614232?s=46

Atom (@atom_tool) on X

Atom speed and transactions optimization test 💯✅

Stay tuned for updates!

#staratlas #wearestaratlas #wasa #solana #sage

@staratlas

Twitter · Oct 14, 2024, 11:16 AM

[random rapids]

Hahahahaha thanks. 🙏

[restive wing]

I haven’t even stopped yet. And I have more to do. Might try to sort sly tonight.

[unkempt swift]

Ok, managed to add phantom to chrome so I am now using that rather than edge and the crew packs now appear. I was going to open all 42 as MUD as that is my faction. Is this the right thing to do?

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/lazy-drag-dog-gif-4134292290810411781

thats me

[cold ledge]

Your choice, whatever you prefer, all crew works everywhere.

[woeful oracle]

Good morning my star atlas people

[unkempt swift]

I am choosing all factions then

[restive wing]

Coffee?

[cold ledge]

maybe i should 🙂

I kinda feel wrong to use drugs for motivation; it is what it is 🙂

[woeful oracle]

Who is @restive wing

[restive wing]

Then have tea

[restive wing]

Bunny is best

[topaz pine]

Exciting! Is the repo public yet? Would love to follow along with the updates. Also happy to test if you are interested.

[woeful oracle]

That don’t tell me who you are

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/mcnulty-the-wire-eh-meh-maybe-gif-15714930

[restive wing]

🫡

[unkempt swift]

Opened half of my silver packs so far 16 common and 2 uncommon

[restive wing]

Water with lemon slices

[woeful oracle]

🧐 🤔

[restive wing]

🤷🏼‍♀️

[cold ledge]

Does that give a "kick"?

[restive wing]

https://tenor.com/view/anastasia-kick-her-funny-cartoon-gif-12134997

[woeful oracle]

I’ll be keeping an eye on you 😛

[restive wing]

😬

[unkempt swift]

next 18 and I get 2 x Rare, then 1 x uncommon and the rest common

[cold ledge]

show off the rares 🙂

[unkempt swift]

Just opening the gold packs

Uncommon, Rare, Uncommon, Uncommon

One of my rare