👽┃general

[serene willow]

Again, no

They just do different things

[queen knot]

You said to buy all maxhogs no?

[spark hollow]

can't wait for the pearce X7 to come out

[queen knot]

With the 500

[serene willow]

Yeah, but that's just my opinion. I'm a Labs min-max... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[lime lichen]

Nah keep making sure saint just is smashing his keyboard rn lol

[hearty socket]

Hello guys! I request support from the team. I have a fleet stuck in mrz4, and would not undock or disband. Other fleets work correctly. Can we solve the issue toghether? 🙂

[late condor]

[serene willow]

Don't reply to DMs, all scammers

[hearty socket]

thank you for ur king advice

*kind

[serene willow]

For real, lots of impersonators here

That's actually some KING advice too

[lime lichen]

Try turning on or off(the opposite of what you currently had on) priority fees or atlas prime then retry the transaction

[serene willow]

🤣

[queen knot]

Okay I bought a ship!

[late condor]

now hand it over

[queen knot]

okay what's ur seed phrase

So I can send it

[late condor]

kindly send to coffers.sol

[serene willow]

Uuuuhhhhhh I like your style

[queen knot]

They have sol addresses now? Cool

I bought 1 maxhog and 1 x6

[serene willow]

Pirating a pirate...

Ok, be mindful of 1 important thing: sol fees

[late condor]

[serene willow]

Tiny fleets suffer from that

[queen knot]

Umm what

[serene willow]

Because they make less for the same amount of transactions

[queen knot]

How do I make sure I don't suffer from sol fees xD

[serene willow]

You will pay fees for every in-game action

[sour whale]

When ship prices fall post airdrop just make a bigger fleet

[serene willow]

Dock/undock/refuel, etc.

[hearty socket]

tried, but no different result. I get the "fllet successfully undocked" notification, but it's a lie 😄

[serene willow]

Might be a visual UI issue

[queen knot]

What faction should I pick basing it off the two ships I got

[serene willow]

Try clearing your browser history, cache, and even using a VPN

[serene willow]

Any

[lime lichen]

Hard refresh your browser, and either use or turn off a vpn

[queen knot]

What's the most popular/most effective

[lime lichen]

Ur faster than my phumbs

[serene willow]

But Ustur is the best... Just saying

(kidding, choose what you like)

[queen knot]

Which do you have

[serene willow]

I'm Ustur. Saint is Mud. We'll meet in the battlefield some day. Songs will be written about it.

🤣

[queen knot]

If you had to change would you change?

[serene willow]

You can't change

And no

I wouldn't

But Saint wouldn't either

So...

🙃🤷🏻‍♂️

[queen knot]

I chose ustur

[serene willow]

💪

[queen knot]

Should I enlist my ships for the airdrop?

[mortal lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit?gid=205337066#gid=205337066 Have a gander at this spreadsheet, and draw your own conclusions. Every ship model is unique in its own right.

[serene willow]

You get the snapshot if it's just in your wallet

[late condor]

only correct choice is MUD

[serene willow]

Now, in all seriousness. Sage Labs is a complex beast. Take some time to familiarize yourself with it. There are some great youtube guides out there

[queen knot]

I'll dive into all the videos now that I've gotten the first step done (the airdrop lol)

[hearty socket]

tried with vpn on, still no results 😦

[lime lichen]

Hmmmmmm clear cache?

[serene willow]

I guess you need Darwiin help. Create a ticket

[whole moon]

Less then 1hour befor snap shot

[queen knot]

I kinda wanna get one more ship before the snapshot

Any other recommendations xD

[lime lichen]

Less than 2 hrs

[hearty socket]

done, but still stuck, but ty for all the suggestions!

[late condor]

Pearce C11

if you have 30k

[queen knot]

Wow it goes that high

Holy

[lime lichen]

Crap sorry none of those worked. Yea best to create a ticket

[late condor]

we..... yes. It does.

[hearty socket]

it's strange cause it's only for 1 fleet, i have other fleets working flawlessly

[queen knot]

Well I don't have that kinda cash

Any other ones lol

[late condor]

I would've recommended you the Pearce F4 had you told me you got $500 previously.

I don't think it's worth it to try and earn in SAGE below $5k invested tbh

so instead I would have recommended you something with which you can enjoy the actual Unreal Engine 5 experience.

[whole moon]

Yeah my misstake lol

[cold ledge]

maybe look for a guild first

#archived-guild-ads

some have chosen a specific faction

[late condor]

he's already shown piraty potential.

[lime lichen]

All good I’m excited too lol

[cold ledge]

https://discord.com/events/789226204980707409/1270205071317008464

[hazy hedge]

@topaz pine good feedback ser

[delicate kiln]

When will we be able to use these items?

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-agree-gif-11928667053720670991

[serene willow]

A full 36 Maxhog fleet ($800 ish) is already profitable. The key is to do full fleets

[late condor]

still needs to be worth your time

if you live in some 3rd world country, maybe it is.

[serene willow]

A Hog fleet mining faction crystals is 1 transaction every few hours

Not huge profits, because of scaling, but definitely net-positive

[west slate]

honestly every fleet over 20k cargo mining or hauling should be net positive for the most part although with current fees it might be 30k now

[sour mason]

Hi guys,to be eligible for airDrop is it enough to have the ships in the Wallet?

[west slate]

yes

just no 3rd party stuff

anything else should be fine

[austere briar]

Hey there crew members

[slow oriole]

So once the snapshot is taken can I move my ships to 3rd party stuff and still recieve my crew drop, If I sell for example, after snapshot, would I still get the crew?

[thorny lagoon]

Hello, how is everyone? Hyped up for the drop?

[slow oriole]

Yeah, pretty much, just want to know if I can sell some off once the snapshot is taken , cause I need to pay the rent lol, and the landlord doesn’t like to wait an extra day

[patent iris]

[onyx furnace]

Will craftable ships still come with components and crew until they are all gone?

[thorny lagoon]

according to the announcement - no

whatever you have now will be snapshotted and drops will be distributed afterwards - and everything crafted and bought from the market after the snapshot will not come with crew and components

at least this is what I understand, someone correct me if I am wrong

[patent iris]

@wispy widget

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[west slate]

your right, crew will be sold individually, they have not stated whats going to be done about the undistributed component packs ie when we can start crafting them, if we craft packs or the specific components or nothing at this stage

also I suspect crew cards will be overall cheaper then packs as packs are about the chance of getting something good

[pine stump]

[thorny lagoon]

The chances are still per card, right? You are not getting better chances with packs, you just get more rolls with the same chance or at least that is what I though the math will be

[west slate]

<@&809877248572260394>

[cold ledge]

thx

[west slate]

what I mean is it will likely be cheaper to buy cards aftermarket then it will be to buy packs

[thick loom]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-meet-the-team-team-squad-crew-gif-4607989

[west slate]

ie 5 common crew will likely be cheaper individually then buying a silver pack

[sour folio]

yeah it will because the silver pack gets a chance at uncommon and above

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, most likely. I doubt anyone will be selling packs on secondary market anytime soon and individual cards will be more available

[daring plover]

3 Minutes till Snapshot

[pseudo crane]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-ranz-kyle-ranz-and-niana-taking-picture-taking-photo-gif-20983734

[daring plover]

https://tenor.com/view/2minutes-kevin-the-king-of-random-only-two-minutes-very-short-time-gif-19915048

[topaz pine]

lookingat ships with 1 minute to go

[visual sparrow]

Good day, Commander.

#1029802241621753957 message

[daring plover]

https://tenor.com/view/times-up-time-minute-1min-clock-gif-15251493

[cobalt pike]

wheere

where

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/tox-tox-token-solana-nft-best-nft-gif-23468521

[thorny lagoon]

#📢┃dao-announcements message - can anyone shed some light on what is this about. I think I missed a few brews or so

[tired sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/photoshoot-photographers-nude-pose-gif-17343610

[barren magnet]

Happy Snap Shot everyone!

[simple yew]

who's peeking up my skirt?

[rugged bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-photography-camera-yes-no-gif-26979606

[simple yew]

😛

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/popcat-wen-gif-23885304

[cobalt pike]

where where

[fierce valve]

Lets gooo

[uneven umbra]

Hhahahaha

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-photography-camera-yes-no-gif-26979606

[cobalt pike]

https://tenor.com/view/obviously-clearly-donald-trump-eyebrow-raise-gif-12112414

[uneven umbra]

Lets gooooo

[daring plover]

https://tenor.com/view/strike-a-pose-vogue-madonna-vogueing-dance-gif-17567257

[fierce valve]

Snapshot is on

When will be the drops ?

[simple yew]

https://tenor.com/view/airdrop-gif-12035437

[cold ledge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/957747506937233428/1116669756305580032/polis2moon.gif

[tired sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/photograph-gif-8825199

[thorny lagoon]

when snapshot is processed and all the stuff minted

[west slate]

they said tommorow

[small flame]

drops tomo yeah, collection 13th

[west slate]

but honestly there is no need for any of it till the 13th

[unkempt thunder]

Where snapshot 🥳 PARTY! 🪅 ??

[near oriole]

OMFG!!!

[west slate]

we can't open the packs till the 13th no matter what

[cold ledge]

https://medium.com/star-atlas/crew-packs-and-star-atlas-airdrops-are-coming-in-august-important-dates-utility-in-sage-labs-a261baa7a3b6

[cobalt pike]

wedontknow

[uneven umbra]

Uffff

[fierce valve]

Dont care let the drop come in

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-yes-nod-bitcoin-bitaroo-gif-23257148

[sour whale]

gib packs open now

[near oriole]

Pearce T1 snuck in just under the bell!

[west slate]

just saying the drop is supposed to be tomorrow but if there is an issue its not a big deal as they have untill the 13th to actually deal with it

[cold ledge]

i hope one day in ue5 you guys have a dance with these 🙂

[patent iris]

If you mean dance partners kicking everyone's ass on the dance floor, I think the odds are strong you will

[fierce valve]

Copy that

[cold ledge]

more like dance of the dragons, but i take a friendly screenshot as well 🙂

[barren magnet]

sometime tomorrow

[hardy elm]

hello good sirs, how come i cannot see #📊┃economics

[cold ledge]

try top left channels and roles

[barren magnet]

banned

[hardy elm]

ah it was hidden for some dumbass reason

cheers discord

[cold ledge]

also you actually left the server wth

[topaz pine]

<@&809877248572260394> Impersonator

Ban

[cold ledge]

did you say good bye?

[hardy elm]

i did yea

nah

[mossy mauve]

!rank

[barren magnet]

Who did some shopping before the snapshot!?

[hardy elm]

!rank

[cold ledge]

you acting like signal now lol

[hardy elm]

i heard crew whispers

[cold ledge]

im glad you back where is yawwwn?

[topaz pine]

whats Yaawn doing

[cold ledge]

yes yes

[topaz pine]

did he flip everything for polis?

[hardy elm]

i dunno

[west slate]

ie its all about murphies law whatever can go wrong will so plan accrdingly

[topaz pine]

you guys broke up?

[hardy elm]

nah

[west slate]

they are brothers so they kinda can't

[hardy elm]

i just own nothing anymore

[reef hawk]

snapshot done i can continue my strugle ?

[cold ledge]

well it should not matter what you do in sage

[west slate]

the day that actually matters in sage is the 20th

[topaz pine]

i often dream about freedom. how does it feel?

[hardy elm]

i am happy

[topaz pine]

i bet

these damn chains dragging on us 24/7

no time to disconnect

Wendys might would be a simpler life

[west slate]

yeah but then your still not free

[sour whale]

[west slate]

I snagged an opod a few days ago

[desert beacon]

i did

[west slate]

but that was it for pre snapshot for me

[daring plover]

https://tenor.com/view/a-little-bit-michael-che-saturday-night-live-lil-bit-a-bit-gif-15024532712384690663

[simple yew]

lol, bunch of stuff going on sale now

[topaz pine]

where

[simple yew]

just the small stuff that people grabbed for crew members

[daring plover]

Some price adjustment... but I don't think it'll drop much, (with some exceptions)

[simple yew]

bunch of ecos went up..some other small stuff

[daring plover]

Give it 24 hrs

[west slate]

oh right some people would have bought uni for the gold crew

[simple yew]

if you honestly think about it I would expect prices of all ships to fall after today as they won't come with any of the ancillary stuff

[west slate]

and some of the components

and now are selling off to ether buy cheaper xxs or do other stuff

[simple yew]

and future buys won't come with components and stuff either

[west slate]

for a time, the supply of ships is still the same

[daring plover]

Prices had already dropped to 80-90% off original price in the weeks before.

[west slate]

and the utility in game on ships is still the same

[simple yew]

oh for sure...I was just thinking logically from now on I'll have to take that into consideration when looking for a new ship

[west slate]

ship prices will likely be down untill there are more game loops though

[daring plover]

that's a variable... if demand were to increase, that's a total different story.

[west slate]

thats my point

the supply has not changed meaning if demand goes up prices go up

but I don't see any real demand increase untill there are more game loops as its expensive to get in right now

[simple yew]

that's why I keep stacking stuff slowly and watching...I don't do sage much but I keep my fleet active in the fleet thing

[west slate]

unless we get a ton of new recipeis to craft

[daring plover]

or some more hype... we got two events coming, Las Vegas and Signapore

[simple yew]

I'm hoping for a real 'no man's sky' feel to the full game but I could be dreaming

[timber onyx]

Hey, here do I find the snapshot?

[west slate]

all hype does at this stage is pumps the market giving people who want out a chance to get out

[timber onyx]

I'm lost!

[uneven umbra]

Not delivered yet

[west slate]

new game loops are whats needed for demand retention

[daring plover]

Not everyone.

[simple yew]

hype would not help ...all about time and devilerables

[daring plover]

I like it!

[west slate]

hype with no deliverables is just a pump no matter how you look at it

[daring plover]

Hype is really a type of marketing.

[west slate]

although the crew drop was a massive bottleneck so with that done things should start moving smoother

[simple yew]

we should have hyper pre snap...timing those helps because people feel their getting a once in a life deal

[west slate]

marketing without a product to retain attention is just a pump

[daring plover]

If it goes wild, yes it can.

[daring plover]

Products will be announced.

[uneven umbra]

😉

[west slate]

I know, just saying its the deliverables that will help overall

ie ligitimate hype is positive

hype just for the sake of hype is just a pump

[simple yew]

or like if you started a hype train now saying like "omg all the holders just got all this crap for free...get in and hopefully be on the next wave"

[daring plover]

hype just for hype is a the S word.

[serene willow]

Sage is a product, and a viable one (for a certain investment threshold).

But I agree, it's not for every one

[west slate]

yeah but without more stuff to craft its hit its limit

[serene willow]

Especially because of it being virtually unplayable without SLY. That drives people away.

[west slate]

if prices on stuff can go up to counter lp then people will come back and even enter

[serene willow]

My hope is that more stuff is added to craft

[west slate]

the issue is the profit margin is non existent for the low end players who would put up with it

[serene willow]

Hogs and Mambas are ok, but Mambas are almost over

[west slate]

its still not enough

[thorny lantern]

@hazy hedge @wispy widget could you clarify the following statement in the last announcement?

Ship Component Airdrop and the Future of Ships
After this airdrop, ships will not come with modules. Examples are cargo, fuel and ammo modules.

by saying that ships will not come with cargo, fuel and ammo modules.. it means not even a Tier 0 module of each?
will the hull be able to store any cargo, fuel or ammo at all without modules?

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[thorny lagoon]

Wen racing?

[west slate]

hopefully now that we have components seprate from ships we get some cool crafts

[serene willow]

Well... A full XXS fleet is viable now. Especially now at $2

[west slate]

true thats not out of reach

[serene willow]

That's $290

[thorny lagoon]

but you will need crew for 5$ 😄

soon

[west slate]

but still on a pricey end for the return

[serene willow]

Question is, wen is soon?

[thorny lagoon]

20th?

[west slate]

yeah thats the question

because it also depends on progress made with fleet command

[serene willow]

What is not fully clear to me is, on the 20th, does crew effectively kicks in? Or we retain the old "crew" for the sake of Sage, and new crew as cards for the future?

[west slate]

I'm not expecting much till after the 20th simply because the crew drop is going to demand so much of their time

[simple yew]

question: now that technically we'll be buying empty ships and combing components into ships. How will that process work? will then every ship become a 1:1 thus having a variable value?

[serene willow]

Because if it's the 1st, I'll get a loan and buy XXS for $2

[west slate]

on the 20th its our crew cards that are crew

[serene willow]

Like, ALL of them

Lol

[serene willow]

Ok. That's what I thought. Confirmed?

[west slate]

yes

[mortal lark]

if you buy ships now, you are getting free crew for 12 days, and free ship bundle for an undetermined time period (likely 6 months +)

[thorny lagoon]

I think components will not kick in 20th, only crew. Your ships however will use tier0 components and have their modules removed ( probably ) until it is possible to use those in Sage sometimes after the crew stuff

[west slate]

check out yesterdays brew it explains a lot

[mortal lark]

ship prices should technically only really start tanking on the 20th, if people were smart, lol

[thorny lagoon]

need to watch like 6 brews to catch up

[mortal lark]

with the sale of your ship, you could include a rental of crew for 12 days

[thorny lagoon]

hope Beth has some good tldr on those 😄

[west slate]

yesterdays is rather important as it highlights a lot of how crew will work short term

[thorny lagoon]

I will watch the full version then

[serene willow]

Ok, Eveeye, can 145 Ruchs make $290 in 12 days?

[simple yew]

it's an interesting thought though right...as the game progresses ships would be more like going to a dealership. You have to consider what modules are installed and such. It's no longer all ecos unibomba are X pricec

[serene willow]

Sask, can you check?

[simple yew]

they'll have to account for that in the contracts as well

[serene willow]

I'm caught up with work.

[mortal lark]

doubt it

[serene willow]

Let me know

[daring plover]

You'll be able to sell your component bundles, but not the individual components (that's for later).
Source: https://medium.com/star-atlas/into-the-shipyard-exploring-the-ships-framework-in-star-atlas-270f41e5b1be

[mortal lark]

i mean, doing what, mining hydro ?

[tardy ember]

hello everyone, is not possible to buy crew pack anymore?

[serene willow]

Yeah

[mortal lark]

like, fleet of XXS is pretty limiting

[serene willow]

Anything else would suck

[thorny lagoon]

ok, will the component and modules striping affect the specs of the ships in next version of sage? Maybe I will watch the brew and come in with some questions

[west slate]

moduel stuff is all tba

thats why I'm currius as to what new crafting stuff we get and when

[mortal lark]

just inputing it into eveeye says it will make $0.25 / day or $3 for 12 days, lol

[uneven umbra]

Hey! Not yet fren

[serene willow]

Each 145 fleet? Eeeeew

[daring plover]

No change to ship specs for now -- BUT all you buy from market (after today's Snapshot) will eventually have only T0 Components, Keep That In Mind.
Read source for details on New Ship Pricing Model coming in the future.

[west slate]

there is no new pricing model for vwap purposes

just vwap is hull base price now

meaning every component added increases the value of the ship

ofc that is also compared to the actual market rate of the hull itself so

[simple yew]

so well laid out...bravo team!!!

[mortal lark]

yeah, lol

only real benefit in "renting them" for this 12 day period, is for whales

for crafting components and LP upgrading.

[serene willow]

Well... That's actually not horrible, considering APR. Problem is, in 12 days, they're crew-less

Still, self-dilution

And before I forget, fuck LP

[mortal lark]

I mean, that's the only place where crew is in demand, tbh

for crafting ships, not much crew is needed, if you are crafting for the sake of selling on marketplace, not much crew is needed either, unless you have massive volume, which would be a mistake due to the lack of liquidity on the marketplace.

[serene willow]

Yep

Post-hype. Now, back to grinding, and hope for more recipes.

Lile I said, it's either that, or leaving. Will hoard stuff meanwhile, hoping for it. (And craft Hogs, of course)

Wen scrap hulls?

[west slate]

again the big thing here is the bottleneck, the crew thing has been a massive drain on the teams time as well as something that needed to be done before other game loops would work right

[serene willow]

That would be awesome. Recycle all those Ruchs

[mortal lark]

that crew still needs to get around, honestly, for most players just buying a bunch of XXS ships will still be the way to transport their crew around.

[serene willow]

Yeah.

Or 1 Hog

And automate it

Any price action right now is silly. We need better context

Either way, I'm not selling anything anyway.

[mortal lark]

i mean, the cost of transporting 1 crew on a hog, vs transporting 1 crew on an XXS, is quite abit higher on the hog, if you ask me, unless Hog prices tank, like alot

[serene willow]

Those XXS paid for themselves long ago

[simple yew]

lol, by the time I'm ready to sell either no one will want to buy it or I'll only need to sell a couple small ships and keep the rest 😛

[daring plover]

Once CREW begins to sell on Marketplace, this will change.

[serene willow]

Well... No. Because the Hog does it passively. Crew doesn't occupy cargo. You haul + transport

[mortal lark]

the main issue, is that XXS will tank now, but post Aug 20th, prices might go up again, as people realize that if crew wasn't a bottleneck enough, now they have a crew transport bottleneck, lol

[mortal lark]

you can haul with XXS too

[serene willow]

Ooooof that's a HUGE no for me

[mortal lark]

but yes, probably less micro with hogs

[serene willow]

Fees + fuel

Like, fuel mostly

[mortal lark]

i don't mean use XXS for hauling, but when you move them, they can haul stuff too

[serene willow]

Oh yeah, but let's say you need to move 180 crew from X to Z, while also moving cargo

[mortal lark]

i understand that hogs will be less micro, but I think cost / crew transport, XXS will still be by far the superior option

[serene willow]

That's 5 trips on a Hog fleet. Easy.

[daring plover]

not pasangers, only the pilot, so it means you are taking the ship with you.

[serene willow]

With one important factor:

No forming/disbanding required

It's faaaaar superior

Everytime I need to move crew, I question my life decisions...

[mortal lark]

first order is to rarely move crew

that is half the battle won

but I am not sure that waiting for 5 trips to move 180 crew is not sacrificing too much crafting time, as opposed to moving 145 in one go. there are pros and cons

an average trip to nearby starbases can take 20-25 min with maxhog, 5 roundtrips would be 1hr 40min to 2hr 5min, whereas one trip of 1 fleet of 145 XXS will move the crew in 20 - 25min. depending on how often you move crew, this can impact alot.

[lilac turtle]

hi

[vale wagon]

wbu all?

[serene willow]

That's with 1 Hog fleet. For someone that has only 1 Hog fleet, moving 36 crew/trip is big!
Especially automated.

For perspective, I have 5 Hog fleets. And want 5 more. It's an amazing ship.

[serene willow]

But again. I absolutely HATE moving crew the way it is now.

[mortal lark]

I don't disagree with you that the micro will be alot less, you will also save on disband and reform fleet fees, I am just still on the fence about actual profitability, irrespective of QOL

I am trying to setup in such a way that I don't need XXS, but I will be warping my crew around, no way I will wait for subwarp times

Even on a ship as awesome as a maxhog

[serene willow]

Evac + Hog, carry them on warp

Om + Hog, same

Many possibilities

Point is. The Hog is a serious asset when it comes to improving everything as compared to XXS. Mining and freighting included

Which raises the problem again: we now have a HUGE bike/ruch scrapyard

Wen ship recycling?!?!

Either way, I'm addicted to crafting Mambas now. Will do one more, even crew-less

I'll use my soon-to-be anomaly with it. 🤪

[valid yoke]

Crew drops happen yet?

[mortal lark]

snapshot taken, airdrop tomorrow

[valid yoke]

Oh that's right

[valid yoke]

Thanks

[mortal lark]

Is anyone else also not able to connect wallet to the marketplace ?

[uneven umbra]

Yeah, working for me bro

What kind of issue are you having?

[mortal lark]

was just not able to connect wallet, but after a few refreshes, all good.

[uneven umbra]

Ooo cool cool

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/dorime-rat-dancing-moves-gif-17117424

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-moon-flying-take-off-gif-25980513

[placid jungle]

why xxs ship price dumped?

I bought airbike 8 usdc just 2 months ago...

[wispy widget]

I can't comment specifically on why the price of those is down since market decides, but it may be people looking into crew, since from now on you won't technically need XXS' to craft because crew members are coming

[serene willow]

I'd rather keep bikes for $2 than dump them. Who knows what the future reserves...

Wen swarm tactics?

Wen ship scraping?

See? Just 2 possible scenarios.

And that's IF they sell for $2

[mortal lark]

people are mostly speculating, as any ship purchased now comes without crew. And since XXS was mostly used for crew, which after the crew airdrop, 1 silver crew pack is going to be worth $5, people are looking at the average price of $7 or $8, and deducting $5 from it, bringing it down to about $2 or $3.

those ships still technically have crew until the 20th, even if you buy them now after the snapshot. But after the 20th, you would need to buy crew to operate those ships

[serene willow]

Hmmm

What if I mix Hogs and XXS?
Hm...

Might reduce the transaction count a lot, and make hydro mining more viable

[placid jungle]

Is it no longer possible to proceed with crafting by easy itself?

[valid yoke]

Omg

❤️ 😛

[valid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-approves-remy-ratatouille-you-got-it-finger-gun-gif-17680956

[sudden glade]

Because everyone (except the Star Atlas Gang) understands that if you remove the 'crew' and 'component bundles' from the 'ships,' the value of the 'ships' will naturally decrease.

[mortal lark]

If you had XXS ships at the time of snapshot, you will get airdropped 1 silver pack per XXS ship, so in terms of value, even though the XXS price is dropping, you haven't lost value, at least not at this current time.

[mortal lark]

while it is true that most people are going to think this way, the fact is that the ship parts bundle and the crew are actually a bonus for purchasing the ship pre-snapshot, as the pricing of the ships will not change from ATMTA, material costs of crafting ships will also remain unchanged.

[wild osprey]

Do we get to keep our existing crew that comes with the ship as well as the crew members being airdropped

[mortal lark]

as long as you had the ships in your wallet, or in SAGE, or listed on the galactic marketplace, or faction fleet, at the time of the snapshot, you will get airdropped tomorrow the crew and ship parts bundle for that ship, regardless of whether or not you no longer have said ship in your wallet after the snapshot.

[tacit elm]

hi friends! Syndica just published a Solana gaming report.

Take a look on their Twitter at Syndica_io!

[topaz pine]

@hazy hedge @wispy widget do you have dates on when the silver/gold/plat packs will go live?

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[hazy hedge]

13

August

[topaz pine]

Thanks. Apologies if this was in the many timelines or posts that you made. I already forgot 🙂

Well I didn't forget my brain is just very very fully.

[rough fox]

Do you happen to know if SLY can support this? I’m getting the ‘not enough fuel’ error

[wild osprey]

I mean... my ship already has all that stuff. Crew, components

Am I getting airdropped extra stuff on top of that I already have

Or is the airdrop just going to replace what I already have

[upper kettle]

The airdrop gives everyone who has purchased a ship the components and crew to stock them.

From this moment going forward ships will not automatically come with the crew and components

[mortal lark]

No, but after the 20th, anyone who purchased your ship (or any ship) on the market, would have to buy crew separately. That is the benefit of having bought the ship before the snapshot.

[mortal lark]

I also get the error, I spoke with @mint crystal about this, and he said it should work, but for me I get the same error as you, so not sure what the problem is. But maybe worth asking on the SLY discord

[lime lichen]

Ships will always have components just not the upgraded ones we got

[upper kettle]

Not all components will be included such as weapons, and there were a few others on the list. But still, was trying to help him overall understand the concept of what just happened

[lime lichen]

Pretty sure when you remove all components every slot reverts to a T0 configuration. I don’t think there can be an empty slot on a hull currently

[upper kettle]

I might have to reread the latest article again. But pretty sure they said some things like core components and interior is fixed and will have tier 0, the minimum to run the ship. But others such as weapons, misses, modules, and some others can and will be blank when you buy the hull of a ship now

[mortal lark]

btw, the ship parts airdrop is going to include, components, modules, and weapons

[upper kettle]

Ya

[mortal lark]

yes, ships bought now, post airdrop, will come with stock T0 components only, no modules or weapons. But one very important thing to bear in mind, is that until ship configuration comes online (god knows when), all ship stats in SAGE are the same, regardless of whether you own the ship bundle or not.

[lime lichen]

You’re correct weapons and modules don’t come with hulls

[patent iris]

Weapons — Any offensive-oriented ship parts, such as Laser beams, missile bays, and turret hardpoints, used for ship combat.

[lime lichen]

Do bomb bays?

[patent iris]

Good Q. Ship it to the FR lol

[mortal lark]

I would say a bomb bay is the utility rig

[lime lichen]

But why can missile bays be upgraded and not bomb bays?

Or turrets or hardpoints for that matter? Bomb bays are the main offensive point of those ships as they are needed in everything else

[lament eagle]

Hi

[uneven umbra]

Hey! Welcome to the server 🤝

[mortal lark]

I dunno, would have to ask further on FR, but my interpretation of a Utility rig would be whatever component that corresponds to the ship class' functions, in the example the mining rig for a miner, for a bomber, would make sense, it's the bomb bay. At the end of the day, a bomb bay is not the bomb itself, lol

Maybe we will be crafting bombs

[barren magnet]

Weapons and Modules slots will be empty in all hull sales going forward.

Hulls have Tier Zero components for the sake of Starbased.

We changed some of the wording on the marketplace to help...

[mortal lark]

components will be T0, no ?

[summer thunder]

GM

[barren magnet]

Correct

[uneven umbra]

Gmgm

[granite dome]

yeah, the thing is that at this time the utility value of a xxs was the craft.. now it's value changed... now it's transport.. people will expeculate on how much the value of transport on those ships will reflect on price.

[west slate]

this seperates the crew from the ship itself meaning the ship no longer has crew attached (note not live in sage till the 20th)

[mortal lark]

yeah, whereas before crafting was the bottleneck, now transporting crew is the new bottleneck. Operations that have minimal to no movement of crew will be king. This will only become super apparent after the 20th, nobody will notice until then.

[serene willow]

Unless you don't sell your XXS for pennies. Then nothing effectively changes for you

[thorny lantern]

so it means that all ships hull can't even mine nor move a single coordinate without purchasing 1 fuel module?

[lime lichen]

Modules are extra capacity on top of the internal capacity

[serene willow]

This

Also, will be a while... For Based, nothing changes

[thorny lantern]

ok.. do we already know the internal capacity of each module?

[serene willow]

Nothing is yet defined on modules. Just that there's tiers

And that we get higher tier stuff for ships pre-snapshot

Module/component crafting will be quite something, I suspect

[mortal lark]

It can be quite easily deduced that there is a base capacity on the hull, because when you compare ships with same class modules of the same type, the capacity doesn't line up. eg: a ship with 3 large fuel modules doesn't have exactly 3x fuel capacity as a ship with 1 large fuel module. Not sure what the algorithm is, but this is the limited information we know.

[serene willow]

Also, as I've been told twice already, Based stats refer to t0

Modules/components will be a + on t0, and that's what we get with nothing extra installed (current stats).

But... This is far from being implemented.

[west slate]

yeah honestly this is more about them actual making ships just hulls and less about them actualy having utility for the mods any time soon

[serene willow]

Yep

[west slate]

ie they just rippped off the bandiad

[pulsar moat]

Gmgm

[white crystal]

I forgot to move 10 maxhogs out of my starbase inventory they still eligible for the airdrop?

[patent iris]

Without fuel cargo, the ship can't go anywhere right? lol

Unless there's t-0 fuel storage?

[patent iris]

I'm curious how much default fuel a ship can hold lol

[mortal lark]

Maybe fuel modules will be the most expensive, although I am sure there will be a base fuel, cargo, and ammo hold on the hull.

[barren magnet]

While I search for how T0 Fuel is handled...

https://lore.staratlas.com/ship-manufacturers-configurations-and-politics/ship-configuration/crew

[sudden glade]

The core issue here is that ATMTA isn't lowering the ship prices, even though you now have to purchase the crew and component bundles separately. This suggests that their priority might be maximizing profit rather than providing value. Logically, if a ship was worth $1,000 when it included components and crew, it shouldn’t hold the same value once stripped of these elements. It seems like they’ve decided to frame this change as a 'bonus' for pre-snapshot buyers rather than adjusting the prices accordingly, which doesn’t quite add up. ATMTA has never been known for generous giveaways or airdrops, so this move feels more like a strategy to maintain higher prices rather than a genuine bonus.

[upper kettle]

Idk. We've always know somethings can be upgraded and/or be interchangeable.

I think this is their way to implement that system without upsetting early investers

[west slate]

going to be honest, the supply of ships has not changed, the incentive to buy from atmta has not changed so I honestly don't see the problem

[low loom]

Well internet been down two days here.. what did I miss?

[serene willow]

It really doesn't matter in the end. Everyone buying ships is buying from someone else, not ATMTA.

The split between crew/hull is their way of creating revenue amidst this reality. Will work for a while, everyone wanting to expand crew will most likely buy packs

[west slate]

snapshot happened

[serene willow]

People crafting ships will need to buy crew (or use pre-owned crew, which reduces available crew for crafting).

[low loom]

I assume that having ships in BASED counts.

[serene willow]

Yep, you're good

[sudden glade]

without upsetting early investors ? realy ? There were more equitable ways to do so for ex. additional airdrops, double rewards, or exclusive bonuses to early adopters rather than simply rebranding the removal of key components as a 'bonus' for buying early.

[west slate]

the only real change is that depending on the strategies people use it might take more buy pressure for ships to go back to vwap

[mortal lark]

It has always been known, that this is an early adopter's bonus. Everyone has had ample chance to buy ships, and plenty of time. This has been known for 3 years. lol.

[west slate]

the components and crew were always going to be seperated

this is not something new

its just that it has now happened

[mortal lark]

Anyone who has their ear to the ground on the project would have been expecting this for a very long time already

[west slate]

if you asked any of us a year ago we would have known this was going to happen just not when or how

[low loom]

Coins have rebounded a bit

[serene willow]

That's not his point, and it's a valid one. He's talking about not repricing ship to account for the reduced value from crew removal.

[west slate]

still the amount of ships loose on the market actaually give us more space to increase prices back up vs if they dropped the value of those still in primary

ie it benifits ship holders

[mortal lark]

why should that occur, when we have always known that the benefit of buying ships early, even before Faction Fleet was launched, was that it was coming with crew and components added as an early adopter's bonus ?

And people have had 3 years to buy those ships, it's impossible to please everyone, lol

It's not even really an early adopter's bonus, it's a "anyone who bought a ship before the snapshot" bonus

[serene willow]

I'm not saying I agree. It's just valid. Kinda like, not agreeing to how it's being "branded".

I personally don't think it's relevant, because in the end, no value was created/removed. Just split.

[west slate]

also atmta will put ships on sale if they deem thats what they need to do to get us to buy so end of the day we still control the actual market at this point

[serene willow]

Someone buying a XXS for crew was paying $5-6.

Now, you can pay $5 for just the crew (pack), or wait a little and try to find a deal on common crew. And get a hull. Total, $6, ish

[west slate]

eventually once all the stuff gets fleshed out none of this will matter at all

[serene willow]

So... Yeah. All the same. And it scales up somewhat evenly, it seems.

[west slate]

also for people who want to craft they can just buy crew

and there should be other gameplay loops out by the end of the year

[woven condor]

!rank

[wispy widget]

Bro made it

[west slate]

I wonder if this will bring back mrj easy

[patent iris]

He re-engaged on X recently. His saltiness levels were near full saturation

[west slate]

oh thats going to be fun

unless he was salty about getting out

[lost fractal]

sage not working for anyone?

been giving me issues for 30 min

[azure plover]

Lolz the ship prices pumped like crazy before the snapshot, then had dropped when I took a look just now

[static mason]

Right because it’s just hulls now

They are supposed to be cheaper they have no modules, components, or crew now.

Well, T0 components. But essentially they are like a stripped car at a chop shop.

https://tenor.com/view/patin-apatin-simpsons-gif-14721626

There’s a big banner on the site explaining it so people don’t accidentally buy a bare hull now by accident.

So… yeah, they are absolutely less expensive now 🤝

Also…

Bro…

Crew is going to be awesome. Can’t wait to see all the options on Tensor 👀🔥

Trying to shoot a Tufa doesn’t seem like it would be very productive.

[vital portal]

They already said that they were not going to lower the prices of the ships, it is a reward that they have given to those of us who have been at the beginning, that they lower the prices in the market will be because we or the bots lower it

[whole moon]

!rank

[static mason]

Had a billion years of notice, did nothing, complains immediately after. That’s Web 3 gaming in a nutshell.

[vital portal]

I know, now for me the next question would be, from the 20th can you craft the components of the ships?

[static mason]

That would be cool we need it.

Component and module crafting.

[vital portal]

It would be ideal, why buy a ship that does not have the fuel module...

[normal finch]

!rank

[normal finch]

Hmmm

[west slate]

unknown, although components don't do anything yet

[static mason]

And doesn’t really hurt anything. Like just restrict it to T1 components and the balance is fine.

So someone can craft the components for a hull.

Save upgraded and higher tiers for later after seeing how T1’s go.

[barren magnet]

I hope this was a brew leek..

[static mason]

Dom shared it yesterday 🤝

[barren magnet]

Perfect

[static mason]

Also it was on Twitter.

Yeah I think it was the Brew.

[barren magnet]

We've been doing a great job keeping things under wraps so far.

[desert beacon]

hey man, any progress on the lending examples?

[barren magnet]

It will be with the wait!

[static mason]

Not this though…

[barren magnet]

No I had to put that on pause since the examples we were going to post could have burnt people's assets if used improperly. Will put more effort into sharing examples once crew is out.

[desert beacon]

Right on, yea burns not cool. Nice watching out

[static mason]

Haha, whale burns entire net worth attempting to lend ships

[barren magnet]

The lending code is working and there is at least one fleet using it in the wild.

[desert beacon]

Was the t1 imported via lending? Or did they buy it in time for the snapshot?

[barren magnet]

The T1 is a borrowed asset.

[static mason]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[west slate]

ouch, thats going to suck when they finaly get it through

[desert beacon]

Very cool. I cannot wait to blow up the p2p local trading market

[static mason]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-news-news-news-alert-sml-supermariologan-gif-20828801

@warm tulip

[west slate]

t1 is not going to have its kit

[static mason]

👀🔥

[west slate]

thats going to be an expensive ship to maintain now

[static mason]

Loan out 50 more titans and become self funding…

[barren magnet]

Sounds like I'm stepping out of my lane a bit lol. You guys don't know about the T1 deal? Comon get up to speed here. lol

[static mason]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-snoke-and-fulfill-your-destiny-its-your-destiny-your-destiny-gif-25432202

[placid jungle]

Anyone know 'crew manual' file? I want to know this crew operating system deeply.

[barren magnet]

I'm just glad I picked up a mamba ex and a few more Chi yesterday.

[static mason]

Ship rentals for the team would be huge. In comes the subscription model.

[west slate]

thought the t1 was another otc thing that had yet to go through

[barren magnet]

It's here

[static mason]

And grinding to pay off your monthly tab.

[west slate]

as there would still be 2 others for the team to lend out

[static mason]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-gordon-ramsay-hells-kitchen-kitchen-nightmares-gif-14920162685533356658

[barren magnet]

https://lore.staratlas.com/ship-manufacturers-configurations-and-politics/ship-configuration/crew

[lost fractal]

Is this legit?

[warm tulip]

The T1 is a borrowed asset as a test of lending/profiles/rentals. I would also assume that the T1 did not raise enough to close the initial contract offering for a Titan and is in an experimental lease to own situation

[warm tulip]

Absolutely not

[lost fractal]

thats what i figured. Its in this discord

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/beavis-and-butthead-head-bang-beavis-butthead-breaking-the-law-gif-17916412

[static mason]

I’ll rent a titan for 409 POLIS per day.

[warm tulip]

@cold ledge or @bohdi

Please ban this fvck

[lost fractal]

69,420 POLIS a day

[static mason]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-fair-enough-nodding-yes-gif-5958816

[topaz sleet]

I have disbanded my ships , snapshot was trine already right? Now it’s just wait?

*was taken

[west slate]

the need to disband is for the 20th

not now

[barren magnet]

You can keep playing until the 20th. Crew should be airdropped tomorrow.

[serene willow]

Noooooo

[azure plover]

The disbandment on 20th is compulsory, but what happens if I have something being crafted during this time? What will happen to those crew in the craft and the items being crafted during and after the update?

[west slate]

wrap it up first

just don't do any big crafts that day

[azure plover]

Oooo...I'm just wondering how much fees and deposit we'll need when we open accounts for the crews...

[lost fractal]

if its .50c lockup that could be rough for 100s-1000s

[azure plover]

Hm...I definitely don't have enough sol for my crew deposit if they cos 0.50c a piece...

[patent iris]

Any pro tips to deal with 4 days of blue balls?

[barren magnet]

All ship hulls have a base fuel capacity.

[barren magnet]

We all know the only correct answer to that question.

[wispy widget]

Lmaooooo

[patent iris]

Any pro tips to deal with 4 days of chafing?

[patent iris]

Are you available in Vegas to bless wallets to boost anomaly pulling odds* for a fee*?

[serene willow]

@barren magnet any leaks on this? We going poor over rent accounts? 🤔

Curious about the mechanics

[barren magnet]

Absolutely not

The whole point of cNFTs is low rent.

I'm looking for the stats rn

[serene willow]

Awesome

[patent iris]

I'm curious how bad it could be if we had to move tens of thousands of crew to a fresh wallet.

[barren magnet]

Moving them with a hot wallet should be fine. And you can reclaim the rent.

Moving them with a hardware wallet is going to be a pita until we build better tooling

[patent iris]

Let's say moving them into a fresh cold wallet

sorry you beat me to it lol

[patent iris]

PITA with time... how bad in fees?

[barren magnet]

Mmm. Good question.

Working on it

[upper owl]

so tomorrow after we get the air drop we can open them or we need to wait ? u guys know

i want to see how many anomaly i get 🙂

[patent iris]

I'll share the biggest crew concern that's floating around...

How onerous is it going to be IN GAME?

I know were a few months away from having this live.

This will arguably be the most important UI you guys build, especially with the way the crew perk mechanics are built.

Even creating an airbike fleet could be brutal if we have to hand select each crew member for each bike.

Hopefully you guys create some brilliant UI solutions that make it relatively fast and easy.

[barren magnet]

The solution coming end of month is a very usable intermediate UI. It won't be any more difficult to use than what's out there now.

The only new pain point is moving crew in and out, and we've done a good job making that straight forward.

[patent iris]

Not concerned about this first phase. More concerned about when every crew is unique in SAGE and all the perk programs are online.

[barren magnet]

I hear you. Will just have to wait and see what GD has in store for us.

[wispy widget]

Wait until the 13th

[patent iris]

4D 🔵 🔵

[compact sand]

wht time tommorow airdrop?

[plush vessel]

They didn't give a time just the day.

[wispy widget]

LOL

[patent iris]

@shut bramble what's your dream PFP?

[shut bramble]

um

idk

the rarest one

[patent iris]

Such a capitalistic answer... expected something from the heart

[slow nimbus]

I have ships in starbase

did I miss the snap shot?

[patent iris]

You're golden

[slow nimbus]

so I will still get crew for my ships in wallet and in starbase?

[patent iris]

Indeed

[slow nimbus]

even if they are not docked?

[patent iris]

Indeed

[slow nimbus]

cool

[patent iris]

[outer stump]

What time is the Crew Party Tomorrow? (Or am I mistaken)?

[wispy widget]

That’s on the 13th my friend

[outer stump]

OK Thanks

I gotta do it

Hey @wispy widget How are you this evening?

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[wispy widget]

Doing well! About to go read a book and fall asleep

Yourself?

[outer stump]

I am getting on a plane at 10:50 tomorrow and flying to Florida to help drive my 90 YO Mother to NC. Very excited. I saw her for Mother's day also. Haven't seen my mom this much in years!

[patent iris]

What are you reading?

[wispy widget]

That’s great man, always remember to tell her you love her

[wispy widget]

I’m reading The Mountain is You

But kinda feeling like reading something more casual

[outer stump]

Every time we speak! Yes Sir!

[patent iris]

Just looked at what it's about. Sounds interesting

[wispy widget]

It’s pretty good yeah

[outer stump]

I have a story about my son and telling your loved ones that you love them. I will share it some day. Better verbally, I can spin a yarn like nobodies business!

[wispy widget]

Any recommendations @patent iris ?

[wispy widget]

Looking forward to hearing that one

[outer stump]

Love telling it also! 🫂

[patent iris]

Power vs. Force by Dr. David Hawkins
And:
Driven by Doug Brackmann

[wispy widget]

Nice. Adding them to wishlist

[outer stump]

Night Santi! I need to get up early.

[patent iris]

Both masterpieces.

Letting Go: The Pathway Of Surrender by Dr. David Hawkins is another masterpiece.

All depends on what you're trying to work on.

[wispy widget]

Power vs Force seems like a great one

[wispy widget]

Just trying to constantly level up

Level up and not level down

Steady

Have checkpoints

[patent iris]

All 3 of those books will level you up.

Dr. Hawkins' work has leveled me up more than anything else as a human.

[wispy widget]

Nice. I’ll most definitely give them a read then. Good for my flight to Vegas

[rare furnace]

Where do I go to claim airdrop? I saw medium post but want a proper link

[uneven umbra]

It has not been distributed yet, you will see it in your inventory at https://play.staratlas.com/

And please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST.

[patent iris]

[tranquil locust]

So we can open packs on the 13th?

[plush vessel]

Looks like it.

[tranquil locust]

Yeehaw

[cold ledge]

we have to make a deal

[patent iris]

Talk to me

[cold ledge]

you have tons of packs right, if i understood the noot right its possible you open a vb 🙂 so i need a fair deal for that

i wonder if you can search for names on tensor

[patent iris]

If I pull a Vb, we'll definitely chat and it will definitely be fair.

[stray marsh]

👍

[cold ledge]

wazzup gwana?

[stray marsh]

not too much

[cold ledge]

no hunting, no beach?

what you gaming?

[stray marsh]

no hunting, no beaches, just had hurricane

[cold ledge]

home still standing?

[stray marsh]

I've been getting back into magic the gathering

[stray marsh]

for now

[cold ledge]

gaming is pretty dry for me atm, played some stardeus but thats it

[timber onyx]

Hey, where can I see the snapshot? Nothing has change in my game.

[cold ledge]

The snapshot is done on chain by the team, you wont see anything till you get the airdrop

[timber onyx]

got it! thank you!

[delicate kiln]

!rank

[upper kettle]

!rank

[cold ledge]

#😺┃tigus-lair

[fierce valve]

at what time today will be the drop?

[cold ledge]

i think there is no exact time, but we will get #📢┃announcements

[fierce valve]

ok cool

[shrewd thorn]

!rank

[cold ledge]

so @torn crest whats the plan for the weekend?

[sick iron]

GM SA Family

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/mushmush-mushmushfun-fun-cute-friday-gif-11794736927761807050

[limber oxide]

Is the DAO Treasury likely to use the $465k USD held to buy ATLAS ?

[cold ledge]

nope

and if that would need a pip, which would likely never be approved

the dao earns atlas every day

[limber oxide]

Seems like the sensible thing to do, rather than hold all that USDC

[cold ledge]

well i dont think so best discussed in #📊┃economics or #📜┃dao-chat

[golden rapids]

don't worry about the usd as it will soon be spent by the foundation

[cold ledge]

?

foundation cant just spend funds from the dao

not sure where you got that idea from

[golden rapids]

well who funds the foundation ?

[cold ledge]

the dao, so we can sit safe on the caymans, still they dont have the right to just spend funds from the dao

there is tons of daos there as well

and they all pay for it

[golden rapids]

so the foundation can spend what it likes on whatever and who pays ?

[cold ledge]

if you have a better idea/proposal feel free to discuss in #📜┃dao-chat

[golden rapids]

ok np

[cold ledge]

what

the foundation executes what the dao tells it to do via the pips?

did you read the pips?

[cold ledge]

you definitely got something wrong, where did you read or hear that?

[cold ledge]

https://govern.staratlas.com/proposals/bc8475e4-0525-4fba-b4f8-b848ccde7a9d and https://govern.staratlas.com/proposals/1e2d7066-ec44-46e0-945f-b2e56b1e61b0

maybe read again

[golden rapids]

so if a pip is passed not to fund the foundation. then what ?

[cold ledge]

the dao would need to find a different way to work?

[golden rapids]

and what happens to the foundation ?

[cold ledge]

they would be fired from the dao

its very complicated here you can learn a bit maybe how other daos work

https://mirror.xyz/0x954888B7a5C6736F4955dF18B556D8328FD02f61/5K9llACK4tzu5WHL68CM3bBsmSleL_XxJ2kRGYnwp7A

[cold ledge]

ens for example https://github.com/ensdomains/governance-docs/blob/main/assets/Dir Res - Stage 2 - The ENS Foundation (27.10.21).pdf

[cold ledge]

tons of examples here https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_bsS_3n2JEF8yEFTi1_jauMHKOweKPcl

but please dont just make weird comments like before

[golden rapids]

its not the doa i worry, its the non elected non accountable foundation spending.

anyhow no need to go on anymore, we will see as the dao gets drained

[cold ledge]

well you a bit late for these sort of comments, did you participate in the discussion when all this was up for a vote?

[golden rapids]

ty for your discussion

[cold ledge]

nothing is set in stone to, so if you have ideas/suggestions to make it better please do so #📜┃dao-chat

[cold ledge]

thats what i meant by weird

[atomic bramble]

Beautiful morning people of Galia

[cold ledge]

ahh you alive

what brings you here salmon farmer?

[atomic bramble]

The gods of airdrops and generational wealth

[cold ledge]

is there salmons on the caymans?

[cold ledge]

is it 21 again

[atomic bramble]

It's a Norwegian speciality still

[cold ledge]

ah i thought you could be elected into the foundation 🙂

[atomic bramble]

idk, we get crew now and components ?

[cold ledge]

i think so sometime later today

probably at night when we asleep

you know how things roll here

[atomic bramble]

probably

good thing

[cold ledge]

i bought 2.40 bikes

i need crew now

[atomic bramble]

Today we can start merging Data cubes atleast

[cold ledge]

you got some spare?

[atomic bramble]

crew? no

[cold ledge]

ah you never gifted me one so i got zero

poor mods

always get zero

[cold ledge]

you bought no packs?

i got 2 of these packs thats 20

need like 20 more for the bikes i bought dirt cheap

[atomic bramble]

oh yeah i got 1 i think

[cold ledge]

10 crew for me then?

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-okay-sure-if-you-say-so-gif-18594620

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/bai-baobab-crying-no-shouting-gif-17924597

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/pleasedog-please-dog-gif-21830184

[atomic bramble]

so you buying crew thats worth more than bikes? xD

[cold ledge]

nah i wait till people dump them

common is enough

they might be cheap

combined with cheap bikes

[atomic bramble]

if i find you i will keep you hostage till you get mine and we can swap

[cold ledge]

just components idk

[atomic bramble]

or i auction you off

[cold ledge]

that might be a whale thing

[atomic bramble]

havent decided yet

[cold ledge]

if they scoop these and control the market

i hope we can craft these soon

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/a-man-can-dream-day-dream-fantasy-vision-think-beyond-the-box-gif-14532123

[cold ledge]

auction what you will get 10 commons with your luck

txn fee will be worth more than your crew

[atomic bramble]

1 common odvb is enough

[cold ledge]

omg

[atomic bramble]

top dog on discord

[cold ledge]

puh im scared

[atomic bramble]

worth a million at least

[cold ledge]

already contacted virtuwul

[atomic bramble]

you will make me rich in the end

[cold ledge]

if he gets me i get me

if you get me i tilt

but if i get you haha

that will be fun

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-not-get-crazy-here-kevin-crawford-david-herman-paradise-pd-calm-down-gif-16417639

[cold ledge]

how many packs you get dropped?

[atomic bramble]

idk around 100 i think

[cold ledge]

im poor

but 350 openings

thats at least some fun

like lottery

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-again-colin-jost-saturday-night-live-another-time-impressed-gif-19002682

Star Atlas: The Lottery

[cold ledge]

do i hear fud

https://tenor.com/view/fud-fud-police-fud-cops-fud-alert-gif-25527528

im not in the mood for fud today

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-simon-cowell-britain's-got-talent-no-way-nope-gif-8916880067680298198

[cold ledge]

im in the mood to inspect my airdrops

[atomic bramble]

You not in the mood for anything

[cold ledge]

isnt that whats called freedom

im not even american

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-jet-plane-gif-16886979

[cold ledge]

ukraine went to kursk

wth is going on

[atomic bramble]

i heard

[cold ledge]

imagine german tanks in kursk again

[atomic bramble]

Returning medicine i guess

[cold ledge]

fucking rewind history 80 years

putin is not amused

https://tenor.com/view/rage-broccoli-nuke-gachibrocc-gachi-gif-21547004

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/panzer-panzer3-german-rommel-erwin-rommel-gif-19471914

[cold ledge]

maybe we should play some coh tonight?

[atomic bramble]

cant

Tacos

movie

[cold ledge]

wth

[atomic bramble]

Townhall

[cold ledge]

ah its friday

[atomic bramble]

3d print

lots of shit going on today

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/shrektoothpaste-shrek-brush-with-shrek-shrek-brushing-get-shrekt-gif-21529583

[atomic bramble]

one of those things in life you didnt realize you needed

[cold ledge]

yeah all stuff nobody needs but rich norge salmon farmers

[cold ledge]

maybe

[cold ledge]

so what have you printed yet?

[atomic bramble]

lots of stuff

[cold ledge]

well what i need pics

[atomic bramble]

Pi cases, some utility bins etc etc

[cold ledge]

tha germannns had a pi running sly

i thought its cool idea

saves energy costs

[atomic bramble]

Heim has Pi running Gæta

[cold ledge]

blablabla

how does heim even exist with you doing 3d printing camping and other useless stuff 24/7?

[atomic bramble]

easy remote access etc etc etc etc, just the greatest thing out there

[cold ledge]

maybe submit that to naabathon

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/its-the-greatest-thing-ever-randy-marsh-south-park-s9e5-the-losing-edge-gif-22282186

[cold ledge]

heidrun pi

[atomic bramble]

already ended

[cold ledge]

shut up

[cold ledge]

no you had wrong info

i asked santi

and he said benny is well not smart

he needs to learn to read

[atomic bramble]

give me info then

[cold ledge]

there is a website

[cold ledge]

https://naabathon.staratlas.com/

[atomic bramble]

so

[cold ledge]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1-yEoe8buXym6HgjyITlTJStQMGn6w0lBTDHO2Tpeb_8/viewform?edit_requested=true

well submit noob

or shut up

[atomic bramble]

as you still an assshole and leaving me behind on my game?

[cold ledge]

maybe

im busy you know

camping

[atomic bramble]

"bussy"

[cold ledge]

watching woman at the beach

[atomic bramble]

i am on the other hand bussy

you're just lazyt

[cold ledge]

dude i moved once this week

[atomic bramble]

laziest mf ive ever met

[cold ledge]

and today i have to move again

if the workers finish

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-all-i-heard-blah-blah-blah-gif-22363686

[cold ledge]

yesterday it did not look like it

[cold ledge]

im better in crying than you

when you cry it sounds like holiday

when i cry its a war

aftermath

[cold ledge]

so what else you printed?

a pi case thats it?

you said lots of things

[atomic bramble]

Move to Norway and experience the greatness, joining Heim works too

[cold ledge]

@late condor said i could become a pirate

without moving

[late condor]

?

[atomic bramble]

Well pirates are lame

just look at Saint

[cold ledge]

you told me i can man the guns on your ship destroy heimdall and get rich didnt you?

[late condor]

Ah, yes.

Of course.

Highly encourage

11/10 would do

I can arrange an audience with the Pirate King.

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-plan-avengers-age-of-ultron-tony-stark-iron-man-gif-16842099320021872053

viking or pirate

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/palmervilnius-gif-19045502

[cold ledge]

a tough decision

[late condor]

Not tough at all.

[atomic bramble]

Well Viking makes you both really

2 in 1 kind of a deal

[cold ledge]

yeah and you ustur to

[atomic bramble]

mhmmmm

3 in 1

ez

[cold ledge]

well i postphone

till i quit modding

[atomic bramble]

Tomorrow?

[late condor]

You are both shitheads.

[primal plume]

hey friends

[late condor]

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-if-you-say-so-whatever-sassy-gif-16833750252917735958

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/come-back-shahs-of-sunset-come-to-me-return-to-me-come-here-gif-22019747

[cold ledge]

hi there onih

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/well-isnt-that-a-compliment-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20789333

[primal plume]

did crew packs already distributed?

[atomic bramble]

Morning ser.

[cold ledge]

have not seen any in my wallet, team still asleep

from experience it will be a long day/night

[primal plume]

yeah, me too

[atomic bramble]

dont think so usually these stuff comes evening in the US

[primal plume]

ok, right

[terse spruce]

I need more Popcorn. Haha. Like the convo in here

[atomic bramble]

So i actually downloaded a mod of HOI4, where you start in 1910 and work your way up

[cold ledge]

are you not supposed to play victoria instead

you ever played that?

[atomic bramble]

Dont think so

[cold ledge]

check it so crusader kings-europa universalis, victoria, heart of iron

[atomic bramble]

so many games

[cold ledge]

you can play from like 800 till after ww2

[cold ledge]

they all good and in some sorts similiar same engines

but differ a bit more strategy than just war

[atomic bramble]

yeah thats cool but still

and AI tend to be fucked to play against too

[cold ledge]

eu4 is best then ck then hoi or victoria

[cold ledge]

well thats also the fun replayability

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-vietnam-robin-williams-classic-announcer-radio-gif-4844905

[cold ledge]

oh no another viking

you late

are you not an early worm

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/so-so-iffy-maybe-not-maybe-in-between-gif-3897577145165286615

[cold ledge]

or you just pretended

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/psych-gus-what-beenherewholetime-you-gif-13342464

[cold ledge]

ah the pretender

[atomic bramble]

oh yeah, the guy who called us to a meeting and forgot about it

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-funny-laugh-baby-cute-gif-1231826826475224608

[cold ledge]

harhar thats groza

[elfin tundra]

it happens

i rly thought it was sunday

Even though it clearly said 8th august

[atomic bramble]

And you're in charge of logistics, im worried

[elfin tundra]

last year it might be sunday the 8th

[cold ledge]

no not his famous spreadsheets?

[elfin tundra]

in pharmacutical company xD

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-gif-10576512

[cold ledge]

well what you gaming?

[elfin tundra]

cities skylines

i'm taking the responsibility of thousands of people