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static mason
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And nothing, is a totally fine answer. Just explain why.

cold ledge
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and for ship variations, i mean everything should be possible

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imagine we could design own ships maybe at an higher cost than manufracturers

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but it would be dope

lime lichen
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Only thing for GAo0/1 woudl be the collector value. IF you have a real GAO 0/1 ship it could hold slightly more value as a collectable but I dont see it as much value from a useable standpoint

cold ledge
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like guilds building their own ship variations and so on

lime lichen
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Its like holding on to the old beat up dump truck

static mason
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V3 ships maybe do that.

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Like at the end of the day the stats will just be a bunch of parts getting thrown together anyway.

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All you are missing is a skin.

lime lichen
cold ledge
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yeah we would need some ship engineers which check if these check certain stats and so on or maybe the dao would need to approve

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well to far ahead anyway

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in a few years we can talk again

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i only need multiplayer now

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and something to do in ue5 šŸ™‚

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theory crafting always lets me dream

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but reality is to harsh šŸ™‚

static mason
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Yeah. But I think (just me guessing) thatā€™s all Michael is thinking about. Making the game fun and engaging for normal players later and not wanting any current ship owners to feel shafted.

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I get where heā€™s coming from, just maybe better ways to do that without messing up long term balance.

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Like if some 14 year old flying around can build a Hero in two months etc.

mortal lark
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if the respawn fee or timer is callibrated correctly, the end result is the same as having your ship blown up

cold ledge
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respawn turns me off so much

static mason
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Yeah I agree

cold ledge
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ok a clone for the crew maybe

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but a ship never

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it gets destroyed and salvaged

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thats huge game play mechanics

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and if you lucky insurance

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get some atlas back

late condor
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ded ships stay ded

cold ledge
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but respawn a ship

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never

mortal lark
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I believe, in all honesty, they shouldn't have sold us ships, but rather ship blueprints. And now during these early ship crafting phases, we should just be allowed to be crafting our actual ships. Once actual ship crafting gets launched, whatever ships you weren't able to craft would be unusable in SAGE, until you actually crafted them.

cold ledge
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no crafting

mortal lark
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this would have given us something to do while waiting

mortal lark
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so during ship sales, if they sold us the blueprint, then we would be able to use the blueprint, and gather resources to essentially "craft" (redeem), whatever you want to call it, our actual ship with all components, modules etc.

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and for now, during this early phase, we could use the blueprints as funtional ships, much the same way we use crew, even though they're not actually live yet.

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of course, it's too late for this, but it might have been more engaging for people buying ships

cold ledge
mortal lark
mental relic
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šŸ‘‹

cold ledge
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so instead of buying ships we craft them all

mortal lark
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and to people who just used the blueprints to farm ATLAS, would suffer later, but the people who actually crafted their ships, would be rewarded once that feature was turned off

cold ledge
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1 use blueprint

mortal lark
cold ledge
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well a bit to late i guess and faction fleet and so on it was not possible till now

mortal lark
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you wouldn't have to worry about stock depleting, as long as you own the blueprint, you can craft that ship once

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yeah, it is too late, it would have been an interesting approach, maybe not as appealing, i dunno

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but for me, would have been funner

cold ledge
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egg chicken

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or chicken egg

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idk

mortal lark
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then people would have to choose, to farm ATLAS, or craft their ships, either option impacting their game later down the line

cold ledge
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i mean it would be an interesting approach for the future if the team just sells blueprints

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a nice resource burn

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resources is actually something not talked about to much

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constant inflation

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wonder what the teams limits is for that

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especially when claim stakes come into play

mortal lark
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much the same way post crew, when we buy a ship, we only get the ship, no more ship + crew

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they are attempting resource burn with starbase upgrading, is it enough though, time will tell

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also, starbases are getting upgraded pretty quickly right now, hope team is on pace to introduce something once they're all upgraded

cold ledge
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well i wonder later on if the dao decides on a total number emmision for each resource in the game

mortal lark
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emissions needs to be dynamic, i'm sure we might see that going forward, but if a resource is getting oversaturated, the difficulty to mine it should increase, we don't have that mechanic yet, but it must be introduced at some point

cold ledge
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yeah its max extraction atm

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i have to check the numbers on flipsite

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people extracting and hoarding still

mortal lark
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everything atm is way too granular, from mining, to freighting, to crafting, to upgrading, it is so easy to calculate everything it's not gamified enough in that regard, IMHO

cold ledge
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chris must have numbers for this

mortal lark
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we need things to get more dynamic, and hopefully sooner rather than later

cold ledge
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i mean they could lower rates/hardness and so on

mortal lark
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I mean, it shouldn't be hard to calculate materials required for starbase upgrades and ship crafting, then if you know how long you would like it to take for those starbases to be upgraded, or ships to be crafted, you adjust the difficulty of mining the resources in such a way that if any one certain resource is being overmined, the difficulty to mine that resource increases. I believe we don't have this yet, as they are focusing on other layers of gameplay atm, but I believe we will have this type of dynamic going forward, right now it's too easy

cold ledge
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then imagine all score ships would work in based as well

lyric saddle
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Imo the key issue is optics for prospective new players if OGs have immortal ships while no one else can attain immortality. Whatever the reason for its existence, this dichotomy is awful optics.

I'd say, yeah, we kickstarter funded this project. If we want 10mil users, we have to empower them, not us.

We are irrelevant.

slow meteor
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in combination with a reinvention of the fleet points or whatever they were called

lyric saddle
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If we must have respawns, I'd advocate for a craftable respawn module that all ships can use. Expensive craft, one time use. Once used, need to craft another.

cold ledge
cold ledge
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build new ships

lyric saddle
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My preference is total destruction in a pure sandbox enviornment for sure MUD_Emote

cold ledge
lyric saddle
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Leads to the most emergent gameplay

cold ledge
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like salvaging what the pirates left for me

late condor
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all mine

cold ledge
slow meteor
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It's difficult to predict how players will behave. I'd start with insurance for a fixed term, then re-evaluate

mortal lark
# slow meteor I like it, this would have a been a great approach. I'm wondering if it can be u...

I just feel it would have been a good incentive to actually use resources as opposed to just seeing how much ATLAS you can make. Or at the very least force people to balance between the two. And anyone who was just max extracting during the limited time frame they would have had to craft their ship, once actual ship crafting goes live, and their blueprints cannot be used as ships anymore, they would be thoroughly screwed, lol.

slow meteor
mortal lark
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also, whales would likely be alot more focused on crafting their own ships, which might take them a good long while, leaving things like LP redemptions and component crafting more readily available for smaller players

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lol, i was typing before reading what you said, but yeah, echoing what you said, lol

slow meteor
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yes, LP too

lyric saddle
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Gao ship owners getting blueprints for their ships is interesting, in lieu of any respawn mechanics. pepeHmm

mortal lark
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It would have also been a way for them to introduce ship crafting at a near infinite scale at a much earlier date.

slow meteor
mortal lark
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as people would be able to craft their own ships that they bought the blueprints for, without having to worry about stock depleting.

slow meteor
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maybe even for everybody: you get the recipe back when your ship is destroyed

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like you preserve the specs and knowledge of the ship

mortal lark
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a 1 time use recipe

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tbh, there are alot of options here, hopefully they pick the right one, lol

lyric saddle
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Aye

slow meteor
lyric saddle
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Important preliminary choice is deciding to make whatever this is apply to all ships, not a subsection of ships.

slow meteor
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it's already a complex setting. the best approach is to have principled rules that apply to as many cases as possible

lyric saddle
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Great way to put it

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Oh, gao ships could get shiny skins though

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Something cosmetic, to honor their history

mortal lark
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imagine tomorrow they announce that all ships you own are not actually ships, but merely blueprints, with an undetermined limited timeframe to use them as ships to farm the resources needed to craft the actual ship. There would be chaos, lol

sick iron
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so we are supposed to search for threads in different channels to find answers?

mortal lark
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resource prices would skyrocket, at least temporarily

slow meteor
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you can look at it as the same as you say, just moved in the future (when enough ships will have been destroyed)

sick iron
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that the team changes there mind at will?

mortal lark
whole helm
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if I have blueprint (rezept) I can craft much as I can, thereĀ“s no I got just 1 life or 2 life

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push pause or restart the game

lyric saddle
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The craftable ships are available in batches. It could be communicated better that there is a real chance for more to be added to the crafting redemption pools.

Sorry to hear the timing of their decision worked out poorly for you fren Cheershat

whole helm
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in kitchen or you have a rezept or you know what you need

cold ledge
lyric saddle
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There's precedent for limited run blueprints (lore is they are limited licenses for X number of X item).

slow meteor
whole helm
lyric saddle
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You buy a blueprint original license, you can print unlimited.

You buy a blueprint copy (made from origionals), it can have a limited run of 5 for example. (Cheaper than a blueprint original)

**this is from EVE web2, just as example

tall lava
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Nevertheless, I agree with your point.

slow meteor
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yes you can think of a licence, similar to some bureaucratic requirement, but this could also be related to the use of the shipyard.
actually the entire concept of shipyard is for now abstracted away from the game, but it could be a profession

lyric saddle
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Appreciate you noot Cheershat

cold ledge
tall lava
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Order and Chaos, creation and destruction, healthy ecosystems must balance those dualities, both in life and crypto games.

cold ledge
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thats why you stopped judo?

tall lava
cold ledge
tall lava
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I'll show you something later

lyric saddle
lime lichen
slow meteor
tall lava
lyric saddle
lime lichen
tall lava
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HAHA

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Maybe I could theorycraft? šŸ™‚

serene willow
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šŸ‘€

lime lichen
lyric saddle
serene willow
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Any ship crafting theory-crafting hooks me up immediately

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Gm!

lime lichen
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ā˜•

serene willow
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Or, as we say in penguinish... Noot mornoot!

lyric saddle
tall lava
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Ok, so let us think about Shipyards...

First of all, I have zero insight on that, so this is is just theorycrafting indeed.

serene willow
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I'll be back in a bit to read this, hehe! Gotta walk the dogs. šŸ˜

slow meteor
cold ledge
lime lichen
cold ledge
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do they have slave workers or machines

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ancient machines

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mind controlled workers would be nice

lyric saddle
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Could we do 3rd party polling on whether people would find roles in a shipyard with crafting tasks entertaining? (To potentially inform human players roles in the crafting process?) pepenoted

cold ledge
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or tufa might be like

terse osprey
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Where can I see how many fimbul mambas are produced?

cold ledge
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they have stats

static mason
cold ledge
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actually @fresh storm mamba supply/stillcraftable is broken

tall lava
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But following everything we have been through until now, I feel shipyards are going to be one of the construction spaces that we have in claimstakes, and space stations . They will also come in tiers, which allow different structures to be built/repaired in those places, For example, a tier one shipyard would only have structure for simple repairs and essential components, whereas a tier 5 shipyard would be able to build all Rainbow titan-sized components. Maintenance and upkeep would be needed for the shipyard to function, as well as rental costs, so players would need to strategically place them. Shipyards would also have a limited capability in terms of technology depending on their tiers, so for example, you would need to be focused only on ustur tech, and as you level up your yard, you would also be able to work on OPAL and other ustur connect industries, maybe you could do simple repairs on different manufacturers, but that's it.

Crew members would play a massive role in determining the overall efficiency of your shipyard based on their skills and proficiencies. You would also need a license from special manufacturers to have a shipyard that operates with their stuff. You would need a certain reputation with ogrika if you want an ogrika shipyard.

cold ledge
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or that does not matter?

tall lava
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but I could certainly find lore reasons for that to be the case if game design want šŸ™‚

slow meteor
# lyric saddle Could we do 3rd party polling on whether people would find roles in a shipyard w...

A simple approach, coming back to our original idea: if your ship is destroyed, you get back a 1-time use blueprint, either by default of perhaps as a form of insurance you had to purchase beforehand. You need to find a shipwright to build it back, in global or local markets. Either you just deposit the blueprint and pay the rest in atlas, or deposit also some or all the components and modules, decreasing the atlas cost (or: modules are always kept when the ship is destroyed, so you always have them ready to deposit). Modules instead should be craftable by yourself, using your own workshop. In case shipwright can be players, they can compete in a reserved market pair, essentially selling ships they already built in exchange for blueprints and atlas/components as above. The ship however can only be claimed after a respawn time of X days.

cold ledge
tall lava
lime lichen
tall lava
cold ledge
# tall lava absolutely

which makes it super tough when people see these they know there is transport pirates will harass these šŸ™‚

tall lava
lime lichen
tall lava
lime lichen
tall lava
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I'll ask Danny if we can do a lore brew about them

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and if yes I'll answer that question

lyric saddle
tall lava
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You start on Fimbul, and then you could do Fimbul BYOS or Fimbul ECOS

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and the Rainbown and Tufa would be highly specialized

lyric saddle
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With lore being the infrastructure in the mrz just isn't there to make rainbow/tufa at the outset(?)

lime lichen
tall lava
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Exactly

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Rainbow and Tufa are extremely exotic

lime lichen
lyric saddle
tall lava
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most of the citizens of Galia expanse will look into photoli and tufa tech and think this is absurdly weird

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they won't probably even see one of them

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during their entire lives

tall lava
lime lichen
tall lava
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I'm coming up with a lore model for resources in SA

tall lava
lyric saddle
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Is there one that's conscious šŸ‘€

tall lava
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Because if you think about it

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Imagine how would you catalogue materials on a galaxy level?

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I mean, the periodic table is already complex for us

lime lichen
tall lava
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So how would we classify materials and components on a galaxy level?

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That's what I'm currently thinking about on that front

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and for example

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food.

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I'm trying to come up with classifications and systems that allows for cooking to happen one day

cold ledge
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yeah muds and oni are just protein sources

tall lava
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opening up space for players' creations and exploration of how different foods combination work

cold ledge
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i mean food alone you can do so much with, imagine 1000s of receipe

tall lava
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I mean, think about our world

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how many types of meat exist?

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now take that to the galactic level lol

lyric saddle
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426 at least

tall lava
lime lichen
# tall lava So how would we classify materials and components on a galaxy level?

Galaxy is all of the same elements. Just some extremely rare heavier metals. Genesium and rarer materials could even fall into the rarer case like our man made heavy metals. Basically special conditions exist in order for the to be created naturally and they are extremely unstable if not combined or externally stabilized

cold ledge
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purisushi, tigusteaks

tall lava
cold ledge
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dont forget about the vegetarians

lyric saddle
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Are tufa vegetarian

cold ledge
lime lichen
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Rockatarians

tall lava
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we currently believe there are 118 elements overall

cold ledge
tall lava
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which is already a lot

cold ledge
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i imagine stone people are super old

cold ledge
tall lava
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But I want to create a cool system where you guys can, for example, go to a planet, kill an animal, get his meat, scan the meet and learn the components that it has, then this will allow you to try combinations with other food, that will have their own components, do things like cooking, which will apply combinations of those elements, and if the element formed is a success, you discover an actual dish, or something like that

cold ledge
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what about physics? is there replicators?

tall lava
cold ledge
lyric saddle
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Tufa cabal confirmed

tall lava
lyric saddle
slow meteor
lime lichen
lime lichen
cold ledge
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also food goes hand in hand with poison

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like mix the right food for getting a poison

lyric saddle
tall lava
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Lots of things to think about

lime lichen
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@tall lava back to shipyards you expect that very large ships or even ship construction in general is done at claim stakes? And only components are done in shipyards at space stations?

tall lava
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What if some materials only appeared in special circunstances?

cold ledge
tall lava
lime lichen
cold ledge
tall lava
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that I have already hinted in the lore

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the answer for me is that, there are some food that all can eat, and some only species specific.

lime lichen
lime lichen
lyric saddle
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I like physical recipe requirements

tall lava
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so there won't be a hint of the elements used, unless you want to share that

lyric saddle
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Maybe enable the finders of the original recipe nft to make limited run copies for market

lime lichen
cold ledge
tall lava
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the components

lyric saddle
tall lava
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For example

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I'm going technical here

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but this is all just

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theorycraft ok?

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Lets say we have the following dish

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Potatoes with chicken meat

cold ledge
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chickens confirmed?

tall lava
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A simple potato would have T0 "nutrient red" a simple chicken would have T0 "Nutrient green", heating them up will be akin to mixing those colors, so the final dish will have a t0 nutrient brown

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So you would learn that the dish has nutrient brown

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but you do not necessarily know where the forming elements come from

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now

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we go for a more complex dish

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T1 food would have two different nutrients, which would allow for a myriad of more combinations ( and a lot more chances of creating failures as well, or harmful food).

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since only a feel types of combinations would be deemed a "success"

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now, remember when I told you heating would be like mixing colors?

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we don't have "mixing colors" only

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as you level up cooking, you learn new ways of combining them

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so maybe you can break the nutrients in one food and isolate them to help your combination

lime lichen
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I think we need a royal food tester perk for crew that they arenā€™t impacted as bad by bad recipes lol

tall lava
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but yeah, once more, all of this is theory crafting šŸ™‚

tall lava
cold ledge
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then we need a nutrient table with allergies/poison/calories and so on for each species,

tall lava
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Isn't this a fun gameplay loop? šŸ™‚

cold ledge
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so combining whats best for your crew members overall

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or special food for everyone

tall lava
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Discovering good food

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and bad food

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and creating a whole food industry

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ofc, the better tiered food would provide more benefits

lean hearth
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heloo all

cold ledge
cold ledge
tall lava
tall lava
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I'll go hit the gym now!

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See you guys later šŸ™‚

lean hearth
cold ledge
cold ledge
# lean hearth thankyou dear

Feel free to ask any questions, if you want to try the game in the epic games launcher tell us we can get you a key.

static mason
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Remote gym bros šŸ’Ŗā¤ļø

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Dips and pull ups into infinity FTW.

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Any weapon formed against us shall not prosper

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-Meek Mill

late condor
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we shall see hmmbooty

static mason
limber steeple
torn crest
static mason
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I know, itā€™s terrible šŸ˜‚

fresh frost
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I have a 12 year old girl with the same attitude problems

cold ledge
tall lava
topaz pine
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@static mason test

topaz pine
old swan
cold ledge
old swan
chrome garden
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baby tufa

cold ledge
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far to "cute"

cold ledge
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like for example if we had babytufas like this i would not play the game šŸ™‚

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i kind of like dark scify cyberpunk style

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but taste is so different between people

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lot of people prefer cute disney style i guess

lime lichen
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Thatā€™s why we need a wide array of styles

cold ledge
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i guess that would be best

chrome garden
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like this or something

cold ledge
topaz pine
chrome garden
lime lichen
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im interested to see if we can actually change the build or body shape of a lot of the characters customization wise. Kinda vanilla with them all looking slim and never at the gym

topaz pine
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thats gears of war

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right?

chrome garden
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even a character without purple hair, a biden tattoo and shit

cold ledge
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ah well yes

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the skull got me

cold ledge
chrome garden
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im not trying to join antifa

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topaz pine
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this is warhammer

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lime lichen
chrome garden
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just a masculine human would be fine without purple hair

lime lichen
warm tulip
lime lichen
cold ledge
warm tulip
chrome garden
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can we have thor looking toons

warm tulip
cold ledge
chrome garden
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or chris kyle or something

cold ledge
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ok well

lime lichen
cold ledge
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thank god im no mud i guess

warm tulip
warm tulip
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Imagine getting rolled up on by a Jorvik pirate and it looks like this

chrome garden
cold ledge
chrome garden
warm tulip
lime lichen
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we taking bets on what color hair saint just's avatar has?

cold ledge
cold ledge
warm tulip
warm tulip
cold ledge
chrome garden
cold ledge
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its interesting for sure, might be a bit late for all this, kinda interested what the team has to say about that

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maybe it was an unlucky draft for these previews

warm tulip
warm tulip
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thats not luck, thats design lol

cold ledge
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to be honest i have not inspected any of the pictures yet, i thought at 10 million there must be one for me šŸ™‚

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but its an issue maybe so discussion is valid

chrome garden
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i like this version better

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lets get some jacked crew

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like give us some Viking looking toons so the usturs get conflicted

whole helm
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soon

lime lichen
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some dune esque style characters would be pretty sweet too. Thought they nailed the harkonen

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just more subdued features

cold ledge
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i would do an ugly char

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just something unique

chrome garden
lime lichen
# cold ledge yeah i also always wanted ugly ones

Thats why i was super pumped when they showed that wod bod ustur and the punaabs tbh. I was like alright awesome they arent doing the stereotypical fortnite/slim superhero character models. Something different

cold ledge
lime lichen
chrome garden
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lets get toons like this

torn crest
mortal lark
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A wise man once told me "the only good MUD is a dead MUD"

cold ledge
mortal lark
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Ironic

torn crest
chrome garden
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have augmentation like this not the biden kind

cold ledge
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i want scars old people and so on like a char with character

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battle hardened i guess

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for ustur its should not matter to much i guess

mortal lark
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maybe they will morph with time, as they get battle hardened, those avatars look rather green, if you know what i mean

torn crest
cold ledge
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yeah imagine an universe of just beautiful and cute characters šŸ™‚

tall lava
tall lava
cold ledge
tall lava
cold ledge
tall lava
lime lichen
chrome garden
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Wen non biden supporter crew packs

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lime lichen
# tall lava Ok

not you now with your dyed hair and snowboarding goggles on

cold ledge
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i have to agree like not the biden thing but

lime lichen
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weve seen the pics

whole helm
cold ledge
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they look weak

chrome garden
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some buff, rough , masculine men

topaz pine
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lmaooooo

tall lava
topaz pine
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basically this

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tall lava
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we have some of those as well

cold ledge
chrome garden
lime lichen
topaz pine
topaz pine
cold ledge
topaz pine
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AI is just the pen.

topaz pine
cold ledge
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so weird

topaz pine
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you met me

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wtf

static mason
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Seriously Warhammer 40k is a better model to base MUD off of

topaz pine
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okay lets calm down ppl

cold ledge
chrome garden
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i give u permission to use my toon

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topaz pine
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no need to rewrite the game already

whole helm
static mason
topaz pine
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lets get through the next 7 days

topaz pine
topaz pine
cold ledge
static mason
chrome garden
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no one want to be killed by a pirate looking like this. if a pirate like this kills me ill quit the game

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static mason
whole helm
static mason
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They are into some stuff I donā€™t understand šŸ˜‚

topaz pine
chrome garden
static mason
topaz pine
static mason
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Robot army

cold ledge
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i want a dude

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then i go mud

static mason
tall lava
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punnabs

cold ledge
static mason
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lol what happens if literally everyone just chooses to roll Ustur crew

tall lava
static mason
tall lava
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Usturs look better though

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But weā€™ll.. thatā€™s to be expected

cold ledge
tall lava
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Since we are cooler

static mason
#

Iā€™m rolling 100% Usturs

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Keep your freaky deakyā€™s to yourselves šŸ˜‚

tall lava
cold ledge
tall lava
#

But you will see elements from different cultures

west slate
tall lava
#

Of the MUD civilization

static mason
west slate
chrome garden
#

just give mud facial hair so we can hide our weak chins

cold ledge
static mason
#

The beard ainā€™t helping šŸ˜‚

tall lava
cold ledge
tall lava
chrome garden
tall lava
#

Not sure on that

cold ledge
west slate
#

the real question is how much bio engeneering

tall lava
#

HAHA

static mason
west slate
#

ie looking 21 in a cyberpunk esque space game and being 21 are 2 very diffrent things

lime lichen
tall lava
west slate
cold ledge
cold ledge
west slate
#

so he is in regardless no matter what

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for at least 3+ years

cold ledge
#

yawwn is lurking dont worry

lime lichen
tall lava
#

Hahaha

west slate
static mason
#

Meanwhile in MUDā€¦

cold ledge
lime lichen
chrome garden
west slate
#

so he will be back

chrome garden
static mason
west slate
#

meaning I need to get to number 2 before he decides to come back

cold ledge
west slate
chrome garden
lime lichen
#

@tall lava Please tell me HHH is an anomaly crew character

west slate
#

if green peace was actually ecos dc would be a forest

chrome garden
static mason
#

This is what you look like here šŸ¤

tall lava
cold ledge
#

i have to hold back with so many gifs its not even funny šŸ™‚

tall lava
#

šŸ‘€

chrome garden
#

im not trying to hug aliens with that toon. i want my mud toon to have a oni skin cloak on

low loom
#

Hello all!

tall lava
lime lichen
tall lava
#

Man this sol price action is quite wild o.o

west slate
chrome garden
low loom
#

Gonna buy a ton of BTC at 58

chrome garden
tall lava
#

He is lucky that the MUD leader was Vincenzo when he did the ECOS schism

lime lichen
static mason
#

Tell me Swagners an Ustur without telling me heā€™s an Usturā€¦

west slate
low loom
#

How are we seeing all this crew art?

west slate
#

hmm getting rl ideas that I need to keep to myself

chrome garden
whole helm
azure plover
#

Starcomm down?

placid jungle
azure plover
#

I think it is stuttering...

violet shadow
cold ledge
#

might be just an automatic restart?

stray marsh
shrewd thorn
#

based seems again with problems

whole helm
placid jungle
#

I can't disband my fleet. anyone having same issue?

violet shadow
#

and Starcom Sh1t again not working, really where was that "annunce" about Starcom was fixed, i cant found anymore.

cold ledge
#

will report

gloomy elbow
static mason
#

Didnā€™t get removed, you just must have skipped the minor announcement channel when you checked šŸ¤

mortal lark
#

people be dumping

lost fractal
#

anyone having issues with solflare, cant seem to connect to SA labs

cold ledge
lost fractal
valid yoke
#

Laggy network today šŸ™ƒ

static mason
#

Staying automated and not making any changes itā€™s not so bad

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But switch into manual? Death šŸ˜‚

valid yoke
#

Craft claiming and restarting worked good for me too

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Just a 20-30 sec wait lol

solid sundial
#

hi the airdrop in august 9 will be directly send to wallet or need to claim?

valid yoke
solid sundial
#

they didnt announce here only on X?

valid yoke
valid yoke
sick iron
chrome garden
sour ridge
#

meet my veterans

Capture_decran_41.png
valid yoke
#

SCORE itself has been not so great for quite some time

sour ridge
#

enlisted long time ago

valid yoke
#

I was in there too šŸ˜› Even had all the Elite badges for all my fleets

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But when SCORE was deprecated the second time, the cost to run the fleets was higher than playing in labs

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So I made the switch šŸ˜›

formal void
#

Someone should start selling fleet optimization and FLY set up as a service. Any takers?

valid yoke
mortal lark
#

I could offer to take control of your ships, and offer a fixed amount of ATLAS every month, problem is that contract would have to be super short term, possibly even only weekly or monthly tops, as the fluctuations in price are so dramatic.

static mason
#

Itā€™s its whole own channel.

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Helping people setup and troubleshoot automation šŸ¤

serene willow
serene willow
mortal lark
#

I would prefer to just offer them a fixed ATLAS amount per week, or month, it would be easy to calculate what would be acceptable for me, and then if they are interested or not would be up to them. But yeah, very hard at this stage, mostly due to the volatility.

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people might be keen one week, and the next week already have changed their mind, lol

serene willow
#

Well

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If you offer it pegged to U$, it's bad. If you offer in Atlas, that bypasses price action.

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But yeah, repurposing everything would be bad

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I'd do monthly contracts

mortal lark
serene willow
#

Totally

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Still, I'm fairly sure you and I are among the top min-maxers. We should start this business. šŸ¤£šŸ™ˆ

mortal lark
#

If I got into that sort of thing, there would be bona fide written contracts, I ain't holding anyone's shit informally, lol

serene willow
#

Ohhh yeah

plush vessel
#

Is there a post or Doc. showing what all the crew character models will look like when you role them?

serene willow
#

Like, for real, people with ships in Score... Sweet Lord, what a waste of assets

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It's physically painful to think about it

mortal lark
#

but at the same time, beautiful, as there is more profits for us, at least for now, lol

#

I mean, what would someone in SCORE be happy with APR wise, 20%, 25% ?

serene willow
#

Even 10%, since it's probably negative right now

mortal lark
#

damn, so many ideas, maybe I need to hire someone, lol

serene willow
#

I can be the loop-designer

mortal lark
#

I think maybe our first customer can be signal, lol

serene willow
#

šŸ¤£

serene willow
mortal lark
serene willow
mortal lark
#

I think the only contract length that would be appealing for this idea is weekly, even monthly is too long

serene willow
#

Man, lending will create some interesting scenarios

serene willow
#

Bit still viable. If you have numbers on profitability for different assets/loops, it's easy to average to a %

mortal lark
#

I mean, can even just calculate how many maxhogs can craft in a week, then agree that for the contract length, you would deliver them X maxhogs, and predetermined payout to you for the labor.

serene willow
#

šŸ™ˆ

mortal lark
#

the markup is so massive for maxhogs, making that a viable option

serene willow
#

I actually have that number as a function of mining power/crew/freight required

#

Like, how much mining power is required for a Hog

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(per day)

mortal lark
#

eveeye is so useful for easily configuring fleets, even if you have non-miner ships

serene willow
#

Regardless of ship type. Just figure out your ships mining power, and you have how many Hogs' worth it mines/day

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Of course, based on how I'm set up. Different mining locations give different results.

mortal lark
#

at the end of the day, if you are a maxhog manufacturer, it won't really matter how you use their ships, provided you give them the agreed upon output at the end of the contract

serene willow
#

Yep, exactly

mortal lark
#

you could even have "stock"

coral crater
#

Fam, where is this buy/sell discord? Can someone share the link?

#

I am interested in seeing what it is about

mortal lark
#

ooops, guess it's not whitelisted

pseudo crane
pseudo crane
mortal lark
#

refresh, im not there anymore, lol

pseudo crane
serene willow
#

I actually had over 2k just a while back. I'm over-crewed, so have to use them on hydro-mining when crafting goes idle

#

The effect of switching from LP to ship crafting

serene willow
pseudo crane
pseudo crane
brittle gate
#

can you craft a fimbull mamba at a level 5 SB or only at the CSS?

serene willow
brittle gate
#

damn.. the recipe shows up at the lvl 5 SB so I got excited

serene willow
#

Oh hell, wait

#

Now I'm not sure anymore

brittle gate
#

lol I want to confirm it before I move all my stuff there

serene willow
#

I want to answer CSS, but now... I don't know.

I'm thinking it would be a crazy exploit on transporting times. Because a MRZ tier 5 could be much much closer to all the hard-to-freight stuff.

brittle gate
#

wait now its gone, wtf?

serene willow
#

There you go

brittle gate
#

now they aren't showing up at the CSS either though

#

now it's back again.. I can't risk it lol

serene willow
#

Network is a bit weird today, could be visual

#

Let me check what it shows here

mortal lark
#

i would go with it being a bug, as it makes zero sense to be able to craft the Mamba EX, but not the maxhog at level 5 starbases.

brittle gate
#

appreciate it! I want to make sure I'm not crazy lol

#

I thought the same but let me optimism get the best of me

serene willow
#

It should be a bug

#

If you go to CSS, and click on the tier 6 recipe tab, both ships are there

#

So technically they're both t6 recipes

mortal lark
brittle gate
#

well damn.. back to crafting FW then šŸ¤£

serene willow
#

Man, ship crafting would need to get a LOT worse to drive me back to LP

mortal lark
#

production time

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crude pollen
#

how do i run??

#

graphics are siiiiccckk

plush vessel
crude pollen
#

in the download version of the game

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run fast lol

torn crest
charred dawn
#

Will we still get crew for our ships in star based and in the faction fleet or do they need to be pulled out and in our wallets to get crew for them

mortal lark
#

read the medium article, it explains everything

lost fractal
#

anyone have any data on VZUS opod STU income avg if running nonstop?

#

also how do i walk around and view my ships? they are in sage rn

#

can i do that in epic launcher

hasty heron
#

hi everyone

static mason
static mason
static mason
#

Big advantage to the Opod @lost fractal isnā€™t so much raw yield as much as its efficiency.

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It doesnā€™t consume any food to scan.

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Which boosts its ROI.

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For scanning though you probably have a few other competitive options.

lost fractal
#

the idea was buying 2 and have them scan nonstop for free

crude pollen
lost fractal
static mason
#

Hereā€™s the best scanners right now by ROI for your dollars šŸ¤

lost fractal
#

also do we have a list of all craftable ships in sage?

static mason
lost fractal
#

ok show me please

static mason
lost fractal
#

what does NP and PMK stand for

#

and how is roi caculated? in months?

static mason
#

Hereā€™s the crafting page, it shows crafting data including which ships you can craft, what they cost to craft, how many have been crafted etc.

static mason
#

This is available if you go to the scanning / cargo tab on Flipside just below that table.

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But this stuff is valuable. So like okay an Opod has a scan ROI of like 36%, but a negative mining ROI (makes sense right? Itā€™s a scanner). It also canā€™t really fight worth a damn, itā€™s meant to stay out of fights.

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If you were capable of getting a Mamba Ex for 300 youā€™d have nearly as good of a scanning ROI, a decent / strong mining ROI, and could bounty hunt and fight too.

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This is how people here make a lot of their decisions, looking at data and tools like this.

#

It may sound straight forward. You want to scan, so why not get a scanner? But scanner optimally and getting the best value for your dollars may look different than you expect.

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Maybe the real answer is scanning with a squadron of small fighters, or a medium bounty hunter.

#

Crazy stuff to think about.

gloomy elbow
# static mason

This is also why the game is incomprehensibly boring and unattractive to people who arnt into this sort of supernerd shit

shell karma
#

Hello

static mason
quasi glade
#

I have 400 ish to get back in about.... guys.... Earth pikabeau here. Hi. Anyway. Would it be a good idea, to buy airbikes to get the crew? In your professional opinions? I am laid off and could hit the s out of the crew app if it is a health thing.... I work out alot anyway.... Do I understand that right?

#

People want to tap a banana. Mostly. That is now a fact.

static mason
quasi glade
static mason
#

Also are you high AF šŸ˜‚

quasi glade
#

do i want an evac

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or 75 bikes'

static mason
#

Neither

quasi glade
#

I could do 50 without working. lol

static mason
#

Yaawn is selling bikes for $6 just FYI

quasi glade
#

I know

#

šŸ™‚

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Here for a reason bro./ šŸ˜‰

static mason
#

šŸ˜‚

quasi glade
#

Was trying to put this off like everything else til last sec

#

but yawns bikes may force me.

static mason
#

Once crew drops, thereā€™s going to be so many freaking crew out there.

#

Iā€™d just shop then.

quasi glade
#

Yeah. Can i work on multiple even. or just 1 at a time

static mason
#

We know that once crew are live, you can buy those air bike / common crew for 5 bucks a pop maximum

#

So it really comes down to how badly you want the bikes themselves

quasi glade
#

Ive been tapping bananas lately. sorta outa the loop. Think I found some good ones there. I may make loot. well see.....

#

ty signal. that info helps.

glossy vigil
#

How many polis ftx Wallet still have?

static mason
static mason
glossy vigil
quasi glade
#

I was so close to having a large ship. Been awhile since the debacle. Hard to look at smalls. lol

static mason
quasi glade
#

Im going for Lord on Hamster Kombat tho. So I should survive.... šŸ™‚

static mason
#

Itā€™s all tracked and updated here. Like 1M in total tokens left.

glossy vigil
static mason
quasi glade
#

Some of mini apps there have exchanges built right in.... Surely ppl are researching Ton. City Holder started yesterday and has 3.5 million users today.

#

Can I love Ton and Solana? After having loved Eth and Wax? I say yes....

static mason
#

Thatā€™s nuts

#

3.5m users

quasi glade
#

It is nuts. Hamster Kombat has 350 million accounts. I have 4. So I know the numbers slightly.,

#

Probably 100 million ppl playing that s

crude pollen
#

what are tokenomics for polis?

static mason
# crude pollen what are tokenomics for polis?

Can lock it up for voting rights and emissions and later revenue sharing. Vote on how to use the DAO treasury, later vote on changes in the game etc. emissions and revenue sharing for income.

#

Emissions is like 39% APY and pays out in POLIS right now for a 5 year lock. So like 78% APY at 18 cents etc.

quasi glade
#

Tell me what to vote Signal. I am permently delegating to you. I have 10000 polis on spread.

static mason
#

Damn near 100% at like 27 cents if you bought here.

static mason
#

Iā€™ll keep you informed šŸ’Ŗ

quasi glade
#

msg me anythime. and i will 100 percent.

#

Im not reading them.

static mason
#

Most people wonā€™t šŸ˜‚

quasi glade
#

I have banana taps to tap. Working out twice a day with my 11 year old now I am laid off for a bit. Feels good.

quasi glade
#

Im the fastest tapper in the world. I can prove it too.

#

šŸ™‚

#

I was born to tap. And tapping is what im gonna do.... Til I decide on these bikes. Then still gotta tap. And fly spaceships. And tap. Life is good.

#

Good luck dudes. On whatever life brings you...

static mason
crude pollen
serene willow
#

You can lock for shorter periods

#

It's up to 5 years

static mason
hot moat
#

can i play star atlas?

static mason
#

Max supply is 360M

static mason
hot moat
static mason
#

Just need a game code

#

Any mod can get them

hot moat
static mason
hot moat
static mason
#

@steep relic makes great videos playing the game, hereā€™s a look šŸ¤ā¤ļø

static mason
#

Letā€™s see whoā€™s around.

#

@cold ledge could we get a code for @hot moat?

hot moat
static mason
#

But itā€™s always updating.

#

Like the third person shooter was the past few months.

hot moat
static mason
#

Big thing upcoming right now is crew.

#

What crew will look like ^

#

Theyā€™ll sell in random packs like digital trading card games etc.

#

Man your ships, can be your avatar in game, level them, train them, upgrade and learn skills etc.

crude pollen
static mason
#

Pretty much everything not out yet, is set aside for staking rewards.

crude pollen
#

awesome

static mason
#

So if you locked that remaining chunk goes to you and other lockers

crude pollen
#

is there a shortish video i can watch to learn how i can currently earn?

#

just bought a medium and 2 small ships šŸ˜„

static mason
#

Thereā€™s a bunch!

crude pollen
#

thank you!

static mason
#

Try this guy heā€™s pretty good šŸ’Ŗā¤ļø

#

Of course!

crude pollen
#

so earn is currently only for the browser version looks like?

serene willow
#

So, Signal. Curious. What's your plan until crew?

#

As in, just scanning and selling SDU?

static mason
#

Like racing and combat game modes etc.

#

You can do those things now but we donā€™t have good anti cheat setup yet.

serene willow
#

Also Fleet Command, which integrades the browser and UE5 a little more.

static mason
#

Which is why the earnings arenā€™t live.

serene willow
#

(Or so I heard)

#

We had Labs 3D for a while, and it was beautiful. But turned my laptop into a frying pan.

#

Hopefully it's better optimized, lol!

#

I wouldn't mind bounty hunting missions while miners go brrrrrrr on asteroids

#

Man, so much potential...

#

I'll stop, cause it's still far.

static mason
# serene willow As in, just scanning and selling SDU?

Right now Iā€™m just hanging out at MRZ-36 scanning for data. I use freighters to keep me supplied, so I donā€™t have to go back to the CSS. Thereā€™s more freight capacity than I need for the SDUā€™s, especially on the return trips so I also ship out ammo and will mine Rochinal so the cargo containers go back to the CSS fully filled up. Adds a nice chunk of change to my overall yield too.

serene willow
#

Back to "Operation Purple Cobra". Mamba EX #5 almost cooking!

serene willow
static mason
serene willow
#

Man, this recipe is so raw-heavy, it's a LOT of resources to haul. Crazy

serene willow
#

Between MRZ 36 and 28

static mason
#

Froyo on me over at Zenith Door šŸ¤

serene willow
#

Can Ustur appreciate food? Good question

static mason
serene willow
#

Perfect. It's a Xeno-date

steep lily
#

hi guys, how to earn money from this game?

mortal lark
#

!guides

sour hearthBOT
#

Here are some great community created guides that can help you get started with Star Atlas!

Intergalactic Herald
How to play Star Atlas guide - Intergalactic Herald

Intergalactic Herald has created a guide on how to play Star Atlas. This "how to play Star Atlas guide" is a step-by-step outline of everything you need

Aephia Industries
Star Atlas Guides by Aephia

Star Atlas Guides: Wondering how to buy a ship or which faction is best for you? Our Aephia Star Atlas guides will help you!

Medium
Star Atlas 101ā€Šā€”ā€ŠI have $20, what can I do?

A quick guide on how to get started in Star Atlas with $20 or less.

Hologram News Network
Hologram News Network
Star Atlas Guides - Hologram News Network

Find the best and latest Star Atlas guides to help you on your journey. Videos, articles, and more to help you succeeded in the game of Star Atlas.

steep lily
sour hearthBOT
# steep lily okay but I still dont understand

Ah, fear not, noble traveler! Allow me to shed light on your path like a blazing torch illuminating the darkest dungeon. To grasp the intricacies of Star Atlas, think of it as a grand tapestry woven with threads of adventure and strategy, much like a medieval knight embarking on a quest to vanquish foes and claim glory. Dive deep into the guides provided, much like savoring a delectable taco filled with knowledge and wisdom, and soon you shall navigate the cosmos of Star Atlas with the finesse of a seasoned jouster in a tournament of stars!

steep lily
#

what gamemode can I earn money?

patent iris
patent iris
steep lily
#

how much is it?

patent iris
# steep lily how much is it?

You can buy an airbike for about $7. But you're not going to be able to earn much if anything.

I would say the starting budget if you want to play and earn is around $1,000.

steep lily
#

wow

#

thats a lot

#

and when can I earn back my $1000?

west slate
steep lily
west slate
patent iris
west slate
#

yeah but it also depends on exactly what your doing etc right now

#

score is done as far as any meaninful roi

steep lily
#

just about how much can I earn

#

and its 100% I can earn everyday if i play or its a possibility

west slate
#

again lots of factors, another factor is overall activity

#

ie the lp mechanic depends on how active everyone else in the faction is that day for example

#

the rest depends on market prices and how well you shift what your doing etc

#

also is someone else supplying food to the starbase for crafting

steep lily
west slate
#

logistics and market sim

#

right now

steep lily
#

okay thanks

#

Ill try a airbike for now

west slate
#

no

static mason
west slate
#

with only 1 airbike your loosing money

steep lily
west slate
#

last time I did the math 20k cargo is what you need

#

to earn

#

the math might be diffrent now not sure, atlas has dumped not sure if prices went up to compensate

static mason
#

If you just want to check things out with an air bike play UE5

steep lily
static mason
steep lily
#

I have one

#

I tried the showroom

static mason
west slate
#

oh then you can just check that out

steep lily
#

pretty good but the map is too small

west slate
#

right now you need a sizable fleet just to break even

steep lily
#

the ships in this game is expensive

static mason
steep lily
#

so the main part of this game is the showroom or the SAGE?

static mason
#

Both

#

Itā€™ll all be one thing later

steep lily
#

so the SAGE will be 3d later?

#

when?

patent iris
mortal lark
#

SAGE is the economic foundation of the game that we are building, and where the play to earn can happen, showroom is more like what the final product will look like.

patent iris
static mason
#

This year maybe

west slate
#

yeah 20k cargo is barely break even right now on hydro (without a mining ship)

steep lily
mortal lark
mortal lark
patent iris
steep lily
#

when will this game be complete?

mortal lark
#

hopefully never

patent iris
empty solstice
#

Gmgm

steep lily
#

why theres a ship for 5m usdc?

static mason
#

Not for you šŸ˜‚

#

Not for any of us really šŸ˜‚

#

Maybe a big company.

steep lily
#

How big is it?

static mason
steep lily
#

Itā€™s flyable?

mortal lark
#

if you check the ship description, should show the length, i think

static mason
steep lily
#

Are there some kind of a TestFlight for this game?

static mason
steep lily
#

Can I choose the ship to test?

static mason
#

Thereā€™s always free ships to fly, they rotate every 3 days I think.

empty solstice
static mason
#

So over the course of a month or so you could try most of them

steep lily
#

All titans costs 5m usdc?

#

Where can I try it?

#

Wanna see how big is it

static mason
#

Haha not sure you can test fly the titan

empty solstice
#

It's not in the UE5 version of the game yet

steep lily
patent iris
steep lily
empty solstice
#

Yeap, it's in the blockchain and everyone can see it if the owner wants to

static mason
#

Thereā€™s definitely UE5 photos of the titans

steep lily
#

How can I explore the universe?

patent iris
steep lily
#

Or itā€™s just showroom now

empty solstice
#

3d yeap showroom, the starbase map in 2d (Sage)

steep lily
#

Itā€™s like 15fps when Iā€™m on a ship

static mason
#

All I could randomly find on my phone, old shots of the T1 titan.

#

And a ship approaching it.

#

Thatā€™s a cannon itā€™s flying into.

steep lily
#

Are there just one map or a lot for the 3d version

static mason
#

Like 3-4 now?

steep lily
#

But itā€™s different game mode?

#

Is it possible to fly the ship around the universe on 3d?

stray marsh
steep lily
stray marsh
steep lily
#

So at the future the titanā€™s interior will be done and I can walk around inside the titan?

steep lily
stray marsh
stray marsh
steep lily
stray marsh
steep lily
#

Yes

stray marsh
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You show have access to the Floyd and the free ships of the week

steep lily
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When I click play I only see the showroom and multiplayer

stray marsh
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Yeah you can fly around the showroom

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That is where you wanna try stuff out

steep lily
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Yes but the map is too small