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yeah especially as the end of starbased gets here larger players are going to want to up their transport capacity
Itās really going to help anyone whoās crew heavy tbh. Airbike sdu farmers can rejoice and rent the miners/transport they need to get solid use out of the crew
Wait so you're saying you could have sledabarges at remote basis filled with cargo and sell that cargo by using the lending system?
That's such a good idea.
also would lower the pressure on xxs ships if you can just rent a fleet to transport your crew
maybe, but honeslty i think the ability to transfer cargo has value in and of itself
yea!
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instant transportation of goods is pretty op though
I like it.
if the experience was streemlined even smaller cargo ships could benifit too
its not though as the goods are already at the location
its more of the ability for player a to sell goods at a location to player b
yea its basically a p2p version of local market
ie a soft local market
oh I see it's just switches where it is. Yea n/m I'm dumb
very cool
Doesn't undermine the fact that it should have not been even implied that one should save LP for a future LP store. Only to undermine the value of those who saved LP.
And THEN...them playing ignorant to it, is only insulting
I had enough of that BS at gala
Wait by renting a fully loaded cargo ship you effectively opened up p2p trade correct? People could just rent a fully loaded ship with rochinol on it then the renter empties the cargo and returns the ships. Rinse and repeat
i cant tell you how many resourses i have at random bases id far rather sell than to go clear them out lol
yuup
it would benefit larger ships obviously being able to transfer larger volume, but if the process was stremlined it could be valuable smaller cargo ships as well
They should of never launched LP without auto-redemption. That was a mistake and they fixed it.
I don't get the upset. You'll get plenty of chances to gain whatever the store currency is going to be when it's ready. Everyone is on the same page.
Thereās no issue with ownership of the assets(cargo) permissions wise on chain @barren magnet ?
Sir. Your whole argument is based on this incorrect statement that we implied you should save LP. LP was meant to be spent on ATLAS.
@carmine pelican Not sure how it got released but that statement they linked (I misread it a couple times) strictly states that it will convert your LP at the end of each epoch implying you can't save the LP, and that LP choice spending is a future plan.
this one
I don't think so. But I'm just getting up to speed on all of it myself.
is there any way for the owner to move the ship from renter A to renter B?
or would he have to move it to his wallet then send to renter b
Again what and how again did the team undermine the value of LP? With all your math you thought that LP totals were going to drop as time went on as we got more players and everyone figured the game out?
I doubt there would be, the only lock is there is no way to p2p cargo unless its out of the game
ie there is no trading assets inside sage yet
otherwise its just a token
those with large cargo could escrow p2p trading between users, send the ship to the seller, seller loads the ship, then then the escrow send the ship with the cargo to to buyer
Could this open up trading between players outside of their faction? This might be a complication for multi faction players
so many possibities
how would it, the trades of ships are faction locked
so you would still need to take it out of the css to actually swap it
he said rentals only work in your own faction
Ahh I missed that one
Yes, it's all in the game manual we published in 2022,
Part 2, section 18
@carmine pelican
Negative
there was nothing ever explicitly saying lp from based would be used in the store, some of us thought it might
would be game breaking otherwise if you could share resources. since the faction lines separate very powerful resource combinations
Nice! Iām assuming there may be something permission wise to allow faction to faction trading if both wallets hold a faction pass?
thats for later
Nothing like that yet. The implementation is very simple right now.
Yea thatās what I mean. Sorry getting excited seeing all the cool building block foundations get into place
yeah I know, we always need to remember all the real cool stuff is still years out
ie the answer is never no, just not yet
im very excited to offer escrow service at scale between p2p traders.
Seems like some really cool stuff is closer than we think. And if they keep building on it itāll only get better and faster
The issue for me here, is predicating a desire to save LP, then making economic changes devaluing that LP across time while we saved the LP in good faith.

yep once the new starcom is out and the dao is up and running things should speed up a lot
i emagine while a sledbarge is cooling down from warping youd have just enough time to facilitate a trade between users. send the barge to the seller, he loads up the mats, then send it to the buyer to offload.
You saved LP on an assumption. Also the team didnāt make economic changes that devalued LP this argument is erroneous
the team changed what stuff gave and what not, but did not actually devalue the lp
we did that last part ourselves
I'm guessing all of this is just for SAGE? UE5 everything would just be real-time no?
I'm not sure why you decided to save your LP. I'm not even sure you are sure why you were saving LP.
idk, but its very cool we have they added benifit of a p2p local market without even having to do extra dev for it.
this will help sage a lot i think
Leaves out all Atlas brews etc.
It must be a higher maphs thing I donāt understand
I'm not sure why your tagging me after I'm ignoring your posts.
I disagree
Its okay to disagree
The best part is that med players will be able to facilitate smaller players easily. And large players can facilitate med players. Weād finally have a cooperative loop lol
yea I think I missed too much info to know what's going on
Yeah it's OK to disagree. But I will continue to correct you when you are wrong.
Otherwise I think we are becoming good friends.
Yea the soft p2p trading is a super cool benefit. Now large players can set up crafting stations and everyone else can trade and get the in game Econ humming
what's your biggest cargo fleet and what are you thinking of in terms of renting fees?
Now*, if Zek or Dom lead you to believe you should save your LP I will give them a talking too.
Is there anyway that you guys could teach us how to do this (since itās not integrated into the front end) once a few of us know how to do it we could bootstrap a deep space p2p economy rapidly
Yes I want to publish an example in the cookbook asap.
Hopefully this week but can't promise.
cook book you say! I just found it lol whish you would have mentioned that earlier š
appriciate the link
Personally I would just escrow trades at whatever bases Iām already working out of. Would mostly cater to larger players trading 2-7m cargo space. But the med sized players with 100k-1m cargo space could do the same for smaller players.
The point of that repo is to get people some example code they can run with as little work as possible.
I mean sometimes I have 20 - 30m of an RSS to transport, that's only reason I ask
Yea, I guess you missed it when I asked if you could point me to some resources to help me get started
all good though
Sorry I did miss that message.
it's been a busy chat š
Indeed.
If we can rent the fleet while in cooldown Iāll have no problems escrowing a trade if Iām already there for free.
Should only take a few mins and be a great way to build relationships
I can only move ~580k at a time so when my stacks get up there, it becomes a bit of a chore to move it all lol
Feel free to ask in https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1004095538544787547
The devs hang out in there as well.
Dom should eat a sock for this. 
I'll probably start paying attention in there. See if I can start to make sense of some of the stuff š
My watch is telling me my heart rates abnormal. Iām Too excited š
Hahahah. I'm not wrong. But I can respect that.
Thereās a lot of rumours that Dom is gonna eat a sock in Vegas. Canāt confirm šÆ
This is a super simple recipe you can follow that gets Solana cli installed and prints your pubkey for you.
https://github.com/staratlasmeta/star-atlas-cookbook/tree/master/sage-player-profile
The point is sentiment by the player base.
It doesn't matter what articles are typed up later or beforehand
It was lead to believe a LP store was coming and saving LP was the initiative for a time.
THEN it changed
Yeah I get that. And if a big portion of our player base thinks one way, and it's out of alignment with our product strategy, I need to get to the bottom of it. That's actually part of my job.
Then it was devalued dramatically by economic changes
The simple truth is we're just a toxic rabble of overextended degens who should stfu, but we blame our bad financial decisions on you instead.
I'm genuinely really curious how you came to this belief.
What Econ changes devalued LP?
I knew it!
yeah, the pirate can sometimes say things that are true but not necessarily.... socially desirable.
I got that far when I was diving into rust. lol but rust was taking a while to get into and I ended up shelving it when things came up
One exploit I just thought of is bypassing warp cooldowns. If the cools down does not transfer someone could warp, rent to an alt account, and warp another leg repeatedly .
I will have to test how warp cooldowns are handled. But I'm 99% sure the cooldowns stick on the fleet even if permissions to move it change.
Perfect
It's a hard line to say one thing and do another...I do get it. It's actually a necessity...but when it negatively effects those who put ones trust into SA...it's a problem imo. And I won't argue semantics with "only fans" of SA. F that
I'll ignore them
Saying one thing and doing another is something I'd like to avoid at all costs.
I remember people talking about an LP store too.....
I was interested in some LP oriented cosmetics but no luck š¤¤
This was waaay before sage was released when they were first conceptualizing it
I mean, it was still talked about
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Yes but that LP store doesn't exist yet. The LP you have now in game isn't for that store it was a stepping stone to get people from Golden tickets, to RFRs to auto Atlas for in game actions.
That LP store is coming and will use a different points system (also called LP)
Ha, lol
This is the problem with building it out in stages.
Yea and still is being talked about. It wasnāt anything concrete that this LP will be used for an LP store. In fact it was the opposite. I remember them saying that if there was an LP store it would not be this LP. This was just for atlas emissions
Xcode beat my thumbs to it
My LP absolutely got rekt when they recalibrated higher tier components recently. Was I upset? No.
Updating systems, recalibrating stats, deprecating things that donāt work and creating new economic loops is part of the process.
Weāre all beta testers of a new emerging game. If someone isnāt comfortable with that, they should probably wait a few years and come back.
We* probably should have kept the RFR name for the transition.
Or something else besides LP
Easy to get it twisted
If you have no clue...we shall leave it here. Pretending to be ignorant isn't okay in my book. Virtue Signaling is for the weak. Imo
(I already know you know...btw. I read)
I just clicky da buttons
Hey @valid yoke check out what we got!
Oh shit.... You raising bees?
Nice man
Thatās awesome
You still havenāt given any specifics lol you just keep saying the same vague thing. From what I see youāre complaining that ou were disadvantaged from holding your LP. That is a risk you took on an assumption. To think that we would not get more players and more efficient players with higher LP totals over time is just not great thinking buddy. And from what I see from all your posts thatās all youāre arguing. There wasnāt any Economic changes or changes from the team to devalue LP or dilute your share of it more. In fact they actually made changes to prevent that and if you canāt see that maybe you should just leave it at that bud
Nope...I'm not gonna take the time prove it. Those who read, get it already
Continue only fan strategy
All good
I'm happy for ya @barren magnet When you start getting bottles of honey I'll buy some from you š
Youāve called me dumb multiple times and have yet to explain or give concrete examples of what you mean.
Gonna put a big ole sticker on it with yer name on it š
I'll trade you for some sinkers.
Heck ya dood
Where are you even located?
Pretty sure there were no direct insults. Even though you continue to engage.
Only fans...yep
I am capable of being critical of a project AND liking it at the same time. It's okay.
Fun fact: I wouldn't post here if I wasn't a fan of SA.
Ontario, Chinada.
Oh, that's not too bad
I ship to Canadia all the time
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Sweet
I'm not going to count my bottles of honey before they hatch but I'll let you know how the season goes.
Anyways guys. I'm heading to bed. Let's talk more about rentals on Monday.
If yo uactually get some and are willing to trade, I am actually serious š
So am I!
Just wanted to make sure that was clear
Soudns like a plan man š
GN all.
Gm my friend
This is understandable and also unfortunate...as much as it is necessitated. (Sorry, catching up on missed tags).
Timing of changes always matters...ofc.
You already know, your my hero when it comes to SA...and I don't care what anyone else thinks.
ah my old stomping ground
it's hard to know which path to take when things change so fast.. Sometimes it's frustrating, but alls we can do is what we think is best and go with it
Yeah, sorry for coming across so negative...if I did. I don't play around with people's feelings... because I just don't care about them on the internet. Respect is what matters.
Not feelings
no feelings hurt here lol. I mean sometimes you get frustrated and just need to let it out
SA has a bright future I think... otherwise I wouldn't be growing to date.
Or here in this discord...tbh
yea same. Everything else is more or less a cash grab with no real economics
SA has more potenial than anything else I've seen as far as blockchains go
I usually only come in here to get a bit of info
this is probably the most talking I've done in a looooong time
interesting discussion
Was def an idea that you could save for the store
people didn't make it up out of thin air
Doesn't really matter what the paper says about auto redeem when it was clearly changed for this iteration
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Well up until the point all the savers got squashed š
That's a recent convo. How is he still saving it?
when was auto use implimented?
couple weeks ago
dunno
don't care
just adding some context to the fact a large amount of people believed saving was a strategy
seems it was. I mean I just got back in to SA like 3 days ago so current iteration is the only iteration I've known
Thank you sir. People trying to play it off like it didn't happen...just š” me. Lol
They need to wake up to reality and recognize SENTIMENT matters across time. It's isn't hard to understand.
def be some gaslighting occasionally š
you were definitely the odd one out for a bit
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This picture is insane. not starting a politcal debate, just a crazy picture.
Hahaha... Yeah...one has to be REALLY careful of "only fans" these days. And to be clear...I'm not talking about Mustache...I'm talking about echo chambers inside the discord of a crypto project.
It's almost as bad as social media or politicians these days. Sad truth.
I REFUSE to put up with that BS. I'll say it like I actually mean it. Don't care.
not sure what you mean? do they have OF? lol
will be in textbook for sure
I love how you basically just edited in an entire extra part of the conversation
I'm pretty sure I've done that
Hahaha...yeah. I edit often. To me, it's important to convey actual meaning and try to leave nothing implied in text.
I fail often...but I do try.
So many edits. Lolol
lol nothing wrong with trying to be clear and concise. I'm probably horrible for leaving things ambiguous
It DOES happen! 
Hello Brujo...I'm late to the greeting. š
Yeah, assassination attempt is pretty wild. It's unfortunate that we can't believe anything these days.
Media has put soo much doubt into us, because of their lies...or maybe it's just me.
I mean I thought it was going to happen a long time ago
don't know how he did as a president (I don't really follow politics) but some of the things he says.... I don't want to list anything in case it sets someone off. But yea
I don't talk politics because they are all crooked aholes. Imo
Every single one ..and they have no hope of trying to be good anymore, even IF they have pure intentions... which is highly unlikely.
All of them are now... unfortunately. Globally. it's so sad. Anyways... š
yea I feel like they are all corrupt
I Have a question,how can i stake polis?best approach
this is the page where you stake your polis
it dropped also @hallow sundial
Good morning Galia!
Does anyone else feel like the steel processing time is a bit ridiculous??
Oh yeahhhh!!!
bee keeping is my all time favorite pastime
Pulitzer Price on the way...Crazy times...
just watching the clip I could basically tell that his first instinct after getting up was to try and get a good photo
1 post is enough, you mean when emissions run out?
not really sure, i would think the dao has to decide, pvp should be still relevant tho
maybe by that time stakers get other rewards or polis is used for in game control of sectors
there should be regional daos and so on
i dont understand this question sorry
that depends where the dao is located i think, in europe every dao would be a security for example
how do i speak your name jarl juri or yeri?
maybe someone with more knowledge in governance chan can/will answer
lol
haha
ok
Hello
probably this image make his election dream come true.
Human beings always tend to side with the victimized.
That clip from Swagner says, "an LP store is coming " and that "spending LP is your best option right now"... Which is the exact opposite of hoard LP.
You have a point that the paper isn't a great reference point considering this is a different system. So go look at the article we published specifically about that iteration:
LP was for Atlas redemption and you could strategize about when to redeem to maximize atlas. Not speculate on future uses in the LP store.
As far as I can tell the idea of hoarding LP existed because people were given a choice to make about when the best time to redeem LP for Atlas was. And that's it.
It's becoming my favorite as well.
So much to learn. They are incredibly intuitive
We did our first split end of May, and have a new queen laying now.
If you get a calm hive I recommend gloveless
Getting stung was one of my fav parts except when it was in the face lol
These do seem to be very calm. Especially now that they are busy again.
They are buckfast bees apparently.
I miss the bees man
@solemn kayak @patent iris might be the best burger of my life.
Hi
have some lags on starbase ))) starcom help
Did you make that!?
I'll take a look
Hello all!
Nah. Lakeside restaurant in Annecy. Think it was a mom and pop little Chateau. Cook was also the waiter.
gotta love it, lol
Starcom Is Broken
I see Risk lot interesting but also as a quick game
quicker from that 1
What game is this ?
civ
Civilization VI
Civilization VII showcase next month, so i'm binge playing the latest version
Nice never play those. Always played the total wars games.
Been playing Stellaris all day trying to get ready for sage lol. But been thinking of trying foxhole out since a lot of friends been playing it
uh benny is big into foxhole
eagonacht and i play it to
civ is quite fun, especially if you are able to get a small group together to multi. Only problem is games can take 4-6 hours
Foxhole is fantastic
Yeah thats worst with those type of games, cant really drop in for a casual game
if you find another person im always down for multiplayer civ
@cold ledge ya I'm downloading it now. A lot of people from bulk are playing it and we got some events set up. Let's link up for sure . Join bulk server or maybe we get on coms in galia cup or something and play
Literally me like 30min ago
if benny can convince me im down š
would be cool to get a lobby going, I know there are some people that play, I think Kucheto says he plays
trying a world conquest with mali in eu4 atm
Im not playing today unfortunatley
im almost always have time, besides any sa event or im to tired
yeah, when I see I have a window to play, will invite. Even if we just play chill against deity AI, can be fun, lol
did the station run out of food rations?
I mean just in comparison to other similar resources. I log all craft times based on their no food craft time at CSS so I can see the differentials. Steel seems to be awful heavy in the craft length department vs other "similar" resources
I just realized noone typed in here at all from then till now......
watching nomads and never crafted steel š
I've never crafted steel either...worse then frameworks 1?
@stray marsh
That was decently camouflaged.
wen crew reveal?
Same time England win a major tournament 4-6 decades
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It's relatively similar
As to why I think it's time is a bit too ridiculous for it's own good
Sorry was at work so I didn't have time to reply
@stray marsh
I entered the game, but I couldnāt find the spaceship, so I took the train.
How to enter the universe?
Use the Kiosk to spawn ships
I entered the spaceship, and then what?
Fly / Drive it around
no that one will fly to space
How to play this
This is a showroom, it is for fun and exploring
Every time you go in, this is the placeļ¼whether it is a single person or a room
if you have some folks with you you can host one, or if you know someone is hosting, you can join
most folks do solo to explore the game
I want to go into space and fight!
while on that screen, press E it will lead you to these options:
thank you bro
Gooood morning Galia!
GM everyone
My workers are nowhere to be found. They should be upgrading some electronics but I can't see them
Ui bug, try hard refresh and wait
Gm gm ā
Gm 
Gm my man!
Great to see you around
has XP accumulation stopped ? I noticed that my XP has not moved for days in labs even thou I am crafting, transporting non stop
No, it should still be working. Maybe a UI bug, check for your XP on atlas.eveeye.com if you want to compare (paste in your wallet address in the upper left corner under "Profile")
ah ok thanks, is it a common bug or is it just me ?
Atm there are some reports with starcomm being unresponsive sometimes
havent heared anything specific regarding XP though
What is brew code
Hello, how are you?
I hope you had a chance to rest and rejuvenate over the weekend, and that you're now feeling energized and excited for the week ahead.
I would like to be part of your awesome community as a blockchain&frontend developer.
Is there an opportunity to work with you?
Pergamos
Hey there!
Thanks for your interest, you can apply here https://staratlas.com/careers
or send an email to careers@staratlas.com
is based down?
works for me
hello
hey there!
Nice to have you
gm people
gm ā
Where can I find the official link channel?
official links for what? Most of the links should be on staratlas.com
if you mean this official discord, top left arrow down, click invite
<@&809877248572260394>
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when you need a developer, Please consider me first. Thank you.
Im afraid its not up to me
got it
Gm everyone! I am representing the Dragonz Land team, we launched our bot on TG with 1.3M users in just 3 weeks. I see many opportunities that we can use with your project, who can I contact to discuss all the details? Thanks in advance for your help
@torn crest
GM @torn crest can I dm you with my proposal?
hahaha how naive
Hey there!
Please reach out to partnerships@staratlas.com
Gmgm was are so back
Hello, how are you?
I hope you had a chance to rest and rejuvenate over the weekend, and that you're now feeling energized and excited for the week ahead.
I am looking for a opportunity as a smart contract developer.
Is there an opportunity to work with you?
Gm 
@clear rapids spamming the same thing with different accounts doesnāt make your chances any better.
If I keep seeing this message your accounts will be banned
you more patient that me
You do you, bring out the hammer 
Is the SAGE UI updating for folks? I have had terrible experience lately. It takes ages till the UI updates accordingly to the activities
Helloooo community
It is a known issue, team is looking into it
Gmgm How was the weekend santi?
the dao stuff has created incresed activity, starcom chokes under those conditions
It was good! Really happy Argentina won the Copa America
Yours?
Good as well. Needed a chill weekend with not much activity and thats what I got 
And congrats!
Hello š
Where is release 2.2 on the roadmap? It dissapeared
that changed, best watch the latest townhall
We have a discussion this week to go over all the changes. Make sure to join!
https://discord.com/events/789226204980707409/1260307625959100507
Hello helloooooo
Stiick whats up!
Shaddixxxxx
u know
nice morning in arg
people happy
stick happy ahhaha
and you, all good bro?
All good as well!
Catching up with the latest nomads episode. Hoping for some swagner alpha
Can't wait for the crew reveal, is going to be epic.
There's not a date yet, before someone gets too excited. Just a thought š
Sup CHAMP
Same! Need to get an anomaly
I don't want to even think about getting one. It would be too great
hahahah nice and glad to hear that!
Same š
3 hours long, I'm almost halfway. No alphas yet, but I keep believing š
gm CHAMP
Have you had your CHAMPS breakfast and CHAMPS lunch? š
Hi guys. How do we play SAGE starbased. I created profile twice, SOL sent but its not connecting
Try a hard refresh hold ctrl+press f5 otherwise you might create multiple profiles
feel free to #ticket
also deleting cookies for the website might help.
Okay thanks for this
Its working now
July roadmap update. Is that for SAGE starbased also?
The one in the announcement. Or is it something different
its for everything starbased eventually will turn into something called fleet command
yes, but you need to make a plan on what you do in there, otherwise you loose sol or resources, also super hard for small budgets since txn fees eat your profits
We will look at all game loops in Starbased and compare them from the perspective of a small player:
- Mining
- Crafting
- Scanning
- Upgrading starbases
- Accumulating XP
After that, we will setup and automate the best game loop with the LAB Assistant from SLY.
Tools & links used:
also if you have a decent graphics card i can get you a key for the unreal engine 5 game in the epic games launcher, if you want to test that one out
Ya sure. Dmed
no need for dm, watch for scammers and doppelgangers
here a key NEWRE-527JQ-5VW8C-BK58N
redeem that in the epic games profile
Ok
there is different game modes and free ships to test inside
yes it will have all the same mechanics as now+ more added later all in ue5
also a few other game modes coming in there soon
yesssssser
honestly the 2d stuff is very easy to keep up to date so not really worried about the team being able to maintain both fleet command and sage for as long as they have to
Gonna take me so long to pull out of SAGE
Like weeks
fleet command should be the same game id
Oh really? So I won't have to transfer things around??
the next time they are swaping would be combat from what I hear
Thats' cool tho
from what I see nope
Nice
I think its the starbase destruction / pvp loot that is forcing the new game id
fleet command is just the current game but with ue5
ie game id is about the on chain technical issues
Hello all!
Heyy array!
Hello friend š
Is it only possible to craft in CSS? I've been trying to craft something at MRZ-4 for 30 minutes but the order is given and nothing happens, even though I have crews at the base and funds in my wallet
Even though this appears, the order is never executed
Hey! Nope, u can craft over there
try some hard refresh
ctrl f5
or clean cookies and cache and try again
I already tried to do that. I thought I couldn't craft beyond CSS, because the only craft I can do is there, either by bot or manually

I appear to have my IMP TIP stranded at MRZ-36 due to lack of fuel. This doesn't make any sense because I do a full refuel before leaving ONI CSS, and it looks like the trip out burned exactly 2x fuel.
Regardless of how it happened, what can I do to get fuel to my ship?
honestly star com has been slow for me all week - part of it might be the humidity though
ie for like the past week
hm. May be worth it to create a ticket if the issue persists
ok Sir
might have been a hickup in starcom, for a while I saw my electronics upgrade show as pending craft then it eventually went to active
note I have the max ram windows will recognize so that helps mitigate the need for hard refresh etc on my end
All good. We have real lives. (Samesies. Lol)
Yeah, if it takes nearly as long as frameworks one to make steel...why frameworks 3? š¤
That's me! Every morning, before ā
I wake up even slower.
After crafting the maxhog and itās sitting in your inventory, what do you do to get it in a fleet?
I HEAR YA! I'm really looking forward to crew PFPs and Aptitudes!
I'm curious to learn how each aptitude earns XP...exactly. I am really hoping it starts with the crew release.
I actually fell asleep last night thinking about it. 𤫠Tell no one. I have a reputation to uphold here...
you take it out to the wallet and then put it in in the port of entry
roadmap update brew this week so might as well ask on wends if your on
doubt we will get a strait answer before that you know how they are
Yeah. š„¹
My Gagli.doers BETTER have a command aptitude and all players better be able to earn Command XP for them, regardless of ships...or it's gonna be a lot of pissed off people in here (at me)...when the Convo ends. š
you mean yours specifically or all of them
Everyone
I was under the impression that all current named crew get random rolls
The thing is...it isn't what they say (on them) when distributed (fairly) recently
but honestly it would not be a bad idea if they gave command aptitude to that specific one by default then rolled the other 2 randomly
ie all the annas and sammys they are doing that, was kinda assuming that the drops from surge and never alone were going to work the same way
still does not mean there can't be a single fixed aptitude on them
A bad idea? It's inherently implied. Wait....no it's on them, as a reward for playing in surge.
But I get ya...the other aptitudes as a rare.
The Commander role not being able to earn XP by all...it's arguable...I do get that...the problem is...THEY chose the role on the crew cards and gave to all that participated.
Same could be said for medical and science though
i mean they should give the 50% aptitude on them fixed as command then randomly roll the 2 minor
remember its aptitiude ie exp boost not ability to use it
There's a reasonable excuse for the years old crew cards...there isn't for the newly released ones. Imo
Yeah, and why it's arguable imo (xp earn ability)
The newly released cards with chosen aptitudes is not arguable imo
They better be their aptitudes as primary
yeah, that still only fixes the common one as being 100% fixed
the other 2 can have variants
Nah...it was gifted with a fixed aptitude
uncommon has 1 major 1 minor
the minor can be random
the rare has 1 major 2 minor
the 2 minor can be random
the common has 1 major
so thats fixed
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note this mostly only helps those of us with bigger ships
as honestly anyone with xxs ships are going to want more pilot spec
I get current day iterations and implications. Others may not though. š»
yeah thats why I pulled up the article so I could break it down
would be boring if all the uncomon and rare drops from surge were 100% identical
Makes sense thanks
Agree. It would be a point of contempt, if they aren't what they say they are.
Therefore..."they better be".
yeah, the variants on the minor and whatever other characteristics they get (i know other stuff has been mentioned but not in any detail)
ie like personality traits and what not
so it would be possible for the commons not to all be 100% identical even though they should all have the same aptitude
We shall see. I'm starting to get tired of SA not doing what they say and "pivoting"...if I'm going to be honest here. (Which is my nature).
To me, if they don't deliver on what is stated/implied with crew cards...it's another hit to the faith i have in them.
To be clear...it's isn't foreboding yet, but if it continues...it will be.
I am still a huge fan of SA...don't get me wrong
all the pivots have been in line with the general vision and honestly not much code has been 100% wasted as its all been necessary for the full thing to be built out, but yeah I get it
I also want to say...I think Wagner is right on waiting for crew deployment...as long as it isn't "too long". Defining that is the hard part.
yeah, the only mud art done thing was kinda like meh
so if all/most of the art is done thats better
as there is realistically no reason to truly rush the crew release
other then the fact they kinda need this stuff out to move everything else forward properly
and going to be honest starbased is reaching the end of the road without more content ie crafting
or other moduals out that add in burn mechanics for the resources to compete with lp
I can "see this", to a degree, and why it isn't "foreboding". To be clear, we (or at least I) are not talking about economic changes.
With one exception
Which I won't rehash. (LP should have been decreased across the board vs increased because people believed and saved their LP)
I mean its quite simple all the resources have utility for the most part only comparable to what value lp has, adding other uses means lp may not be the best way to use resources etc and put pressure on whales to stop just dumping stuff
or they can just burn lp into the ground without it being able to wreak the economy
It seems true. Wagner is "so proud" via last Nomads video (and he has earned that thought, and should be actually) of how far we have come...it doesn't mean for a second, it cant crash and burn moving forward. He better ā himself imo. SOMEBODY tell him.
That tokes move was extremely pompas, and then pushing forward a rushed DAO isn't exactly ideal either. Then trying to impress upon DAO voters to already spend the Treasury reserves.
It's showing preliminary signs of a CEO who is getting cocky, or folding to pressure imo
Don't care to even hear disagreements by "only fans", (don't reply) cool with logical thought processes in contrast. I don't care about feigned ignorance or Virtue Signaling.
It's my opinion. Get over it. (Not you directly Jith)
Depends upon the vectors utilized. We heard...LP will auto claim, so the LP deposit variance won't be as dramatic. It still is. Hopefully faction hopping was reduced. Arguably worse now on LP variance.
I do think it was a good move. (LP auto claim)
The anticipated result was wrong. (As far as LP claim variance stabilizing across time..it seems.)
Which is cool, it was a theory.
At the end of the day, I enjoy playing SA and I do believe it still has a very bright future. However, I don't follow any crypto project blindly, and I tend to give my direct thoughts...when I care about a project. Wrong or right, as I may be. Cheers. š»
Who said the variance wouldn't be as dramatic lol??
It was inside the brews...iirc.
I thought it was ignorant as well
I don't think I've heard anyone say that from the team.
Purpose wasn't to stabilize variance
Are Atlas brew members (Dom, Santi, and Zeke) not the team? Sincere question. I don't know their official standing. I perceive them to be, as I imagine most do.
Dom is an intern.
Lol
Yeah, they are part of the team
Don't you talk about Dom like that! I really like him.
(I do like him though)
Kindly notice I don't take orders from Screwster circuit crooks. 
Anyone having rpc issues?
dunno if its rpc or starcomm but things are sluggish at times and not syncing
Syncing has been hit or miss the last few days
The most ridiculous login/signup in the web3 gaming space
What do other ones have?
Okay, any recommendations?
Email+Public key
are they browser based game or in their own launcher? Just curious
Like sage labs or marketplace just connect to wallet of player's choice (phantom/solfare etc). Why private key š„“
I am talking about those in epic games (ILv, metalcore, ...)
Different program's
Its an UE5 integrated wallet
Keys are stored locally and encrypted
Although if you don't want to use your wallet, you can create one in the Showroom app to try it out
Log in with your wallet (https://support.staratlas.com/how-do-i-connect-my-existing-wallet-to-retrieve-all-my-ships) or create an in-game wallet (https://support.staratlas.com/how-do-i-create-a-new-wallet)
Import an existing wallet to the Showroom safely. Follow these step-by-step instructions to connect your private key to retrieve your owned ships.
Learn how to create a wallet in Star Atlas Showroom with our easy guide. Includes images, video and instructions for creating a wallet.
I mean such an RPC issue.
I am aware of the syncing problem for last 2-3 days. But I am now completely kicked out. Not able to do anything for 2-3 hours.
Opened a ticket and waiting for the team
if you have a ledger you can just use that for ue5
right now for the most part you don't need to sign anything just connect
Error is fixed
is starcomm dead?
ah 10 refreshes did it
or not 
oh we can't see any of our stufff
StarCom error - 999 Cntr+F5
can't see XP/ships or crafts zzzzzzz
game ded
chat ded

Still happening?
Hello all!
Not seeing anything in my inventory makes me think, is it not synced or did I get hacked lol
Starcomm is having issues atm.....
It took a poopy on us
Guess we better eat it up š
Ope there we go
Think it's back now
There was an update from v3.0.120 to v3.0.122. Not sure if these issues are associated with that?
Yep, fix is building right now. Should be back online shortly.
Waiting to form new fleet
when will be fixed? There isn't any notice everywhere
I'm testing the fixes on mainnet right now. Hop in there and let me know if it's working.
I still should have gotten more popcat @warm tulip
Should be back up now.

craft limit, why?
Click on your max crew.
why is it taking more than 10 min to dock?
these times for transactions is ridiculous... just emptying a fleet to start mining again takes as long or longer than it does to mine....
40 min to mine, 50 min to stop, dock, unload, undock, and start again?
this is incredibly frustrating.. I got things to do.. can't set my ships up to do anything because you have to sit and wait 10 to 15 min between every damn action
sup
The rule of thumb is to double the amount of time you think it will take at a minimum
I get sometimes things hang or get congested but 10+min per TX is crazy.. it shouldn't take me longer to dock and undock than it does to do a full mining session
At that point you aren't playing the game.. you are just waiting 10min at a time to press 1 button then spamming refresh wondering if it's stuck or if your browser just didn't refresh it
It's supposed to be a game
why do you think a lot is being held back because of starcom not being good
ie were waiting on starcom 2.0
so unfortunatly if you want to participate now you need to use sly or some other tool or just keep hitting that refresh button
What is sly
the automation tool (and a guild) so you can talk to them if you want to know more
look for anyone with a sly tag
or ask in one of the guild chanels
I'm wondering if it's a Solana thing? Even the numbers for claim stakes are wrong for me
Prob Starcomm though. Haven't been caught up on latest news
Gm gm 
Starcom look like a turtle, dont? hahaha
Is it still not properly working for you?
gm people
god will they fix starcom for one time ? 3 last day's its gliching ....
It is going slow.
is the main game live?
Starcom buggy? Ammo missing in my ship
A turtle has very strong shield against bugs, starcomm seems not today
/
I noticed you js need keep refreshing lol
thanks for replying, is there a dashboard that tracks the traction?
Not yet, only an early alpha version on the epic games store. Let me know if you want to participate
Yes please, so when is the main release planned more or less?
Thanks for your replies, have been following the game for a long time
Redeem this code in the epic games store under your profile:
XZY6R-CAXQS-CXX78-K2MFZ
Pre season will start towards the end of this year with different iterations of the game unlocked over time. Check the latest roadmap changes for details #š¢āannouncements message
I dont have any exact dates Im afraid
Thanks @torn crest
so it says serge game mode is complete. Does that mean we can play and earn rewards for doing so?
ą¼¼ 㤠š_š ą¼½ć¤š
Surge was an event we held a few months ago. It will come back around breakpoint (september)
What kind of riddle is this?
Do the developers have enough funds to keep the game afloat?
Yes. The runway is not an issue atm.
Dont have any data on it, maybe someone in https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/874400139534536745 can help you
hi does anyone have issues loading the order history tab in the star atlas marketplace?
yeah, not working for me either.
Will report š«”
nevermind, it works for me now. Just took like a minute
cleared cache and tried hard refreshing
wont work for me
Did you try a different browser/device?
Hard referesh (Ctrl + F5)?
If nothing helps feel free to https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/895336048517849099
didnt try other browser as my wallets are in one browser that i use
tried the rest as stated before
its loading for ages and then nothing happens or it just doesnt show anything at all
š
Any timeline on fixing the SAGE UI not updating? UI is right now not usable at all š¦
I feel you, have to refresh a lot atm.
Team is working on it
starcom 1.0 has been garbage recently.Anyone have a date for thr starcom 2.0?
Hey can anyone assist me in how to connect my exodus wallet to staratlas marketplace?
YEP, 426 xddd
dont take any DMs!
haha ok thx,maybe il just take some time to chill or focus on ilv until the 2.0 undate.Starcom 1 is way too frustrating atm
Im not sure exodus is supported.
Feel free to https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/895336048517849099
No date, but its definitely a priority
All ships are flyable in space
The xxs ships might not have decent reach though, to go too far.
But yes, currently all ships are flyable in space
ok
Where can i read more about what ships does what and prob is in my price range?
50-150 usd
Probably best to read about it on the marketplace, also atlas.eveeye.com might have some ship statistics (not too sure though).
Sounds like xs - s category, check this page for a price overview https://aephia.com/star-atlas-ships/
With that budget, I'm sorry to say, but you won't break even on Sol fees (if you're aiming at earning).
Now, if you want a ship to play on UE5, and thinking about future development, your best options are probably on S fighters. They're currently ranged around $100
And damn, Starcomm is poopy lately, heh?!
he can craft
10-15 crew is enough to make money crafting if you do larger sets
but even mining hydro or scanning will be at a loss
have to recheck the numbers but I would guess 20k cargo is still the magic number to earn with
for mining/transport
so I would say about 1000 or so min if your trying to do anything but craft
perhaps a little less to scan if you buy 2 of the cheapest scanning ships
No update for me for several hours today š¦
why is titanium so worthless right now? I mean no ones mining it to craft kits/frames that's for sure
lol was I high when I wrote this
wait whats the weapon of choice in that regard?
dementia
oh i forgot about that one
You can always https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/895336048517849099
Maybe they can help you somehow
Still a lag between on chain data and what's showing on marketplace and in sage. I know this has been reported. It's been going on for about 2 weeks. UI on marketplace and in sage not updating for a few minutes quite regularly. Can someone provide me with an update on what is happening to resolve this issue please @torn crest
I can only repeat myself here #š½āgeneral message
Donāt have insights on the āhowā, but its being worked on
not sure think its fast crafting too
we can set u up with it in guild chat
Ok thanks. As long as the team are working on a solution, I guess we have to wait.
gmgm 
Starcom sux again š¦
same here, starcom š„¹
Try some hard refresh or clean cookies and cache
bla bla bla bla !
if that doesn't work, give it a few minutes
FIX STARCOME !
give it a few minute at every transaction.......
You know the drill guys, touch some grass 
Team is aware and working on a fix
You called?
u grass?
I got distracted
Sunbathing under an olive tree in Italy.
lol
oooo nice bro, this pic emanates fresh air š
hope you are enjoying it!
Yeah. Crushing it always. š
Err false? Im 100% slamming Titanium into FW
And no, no expiration date
I'm using it for toolkits right now. š
When will it be listed on new exchanges?
I just happen to be at the Titanium node. I haven't done the maths to see if it's better than iron ore.
Its not about the $ better - its about the less crafting time requirement.
Titanium is great for people that are heavy miners / light crafters
the only thing stopping people before was that you need a T4 SB to craft it all
so once MRZ-4 upgraded to T4, that unlocked Titanium crafting closer to the node.
Ah didn't realise it was faster.
cause before, it made no sense to haul it all the way back to CSS to squish
Yeah totally agree on this.
but if you upgrade your titanium node to T4, watch FW and TKs pump out like nobodies business
Funny how game keeps advancing and ppl have to update their strategies.
After you, the coins of those who produced games were listed on Binance, but there is still no news about our coins. If you don't want to list Atlas, why don't you list Polis Coin on reputable exchanges?
Titanium is 5H/2R | Iron is 2H:1.5R
We request that you put some effort into the coins of Star Atlas. Please don't leave us for the next bull run.
Please see relevant discussion in #šāeconomics
Share your other secrets please
SDUs are in the center of the map
Is it actually half the resources needed? I think it's the same.
E.g. 2 titanium for 1 toolkit.
Excellent. š„³
You can really crush Frameworks with that!
oh right it was steel they halved
thought they also halved titanium
I think they both required like 4 and they halved both of them to 2.
no steel is 1
Yeah 2 iron ore.
It was 2 steel before and either 3 or 4 titanium.
Not 2 iron and 1 carbon?
nope 1 iron 2 carbon but it first takes making iron
ie its not ore
so its 2 crafts to make the base mat vs 1 craft
not sure why anyone would use steel
Yah. Either way both of them got nerfed after Sage Labs and then fixed later on.
Crafting speed really
I've listened to the last episode of the metaverse nomads with Michael wagner as the main guest. First of all great job by the team of rome, interesting questions, and important topics discussed. Then very clear explanations of the actual moment, and the future releases by our CEO, I suggest everyone going and listen to it, is a bit long but it's worth it.
Carbon is 2 richness 1 hardness so.
I mean is it really that much faster if your doing it from the ground up
Yeah carbon is easy to get
remember transport times
2 carbon is the same as 1 iron
ie 2 iron you can just sit in 1 spot and grind
Not an issue in mrz
less of an issue
It's terribly slow. Can't compete in LP at all.
Depends on your setup. All of the iron Starbases are filled with frameworks. You gotta move iron somewhere.
Toolkits etx
yeah true, still fw and tool are 1 unit of cargo vs the 2 for the iron but then again that becomes 1 if your just going to process it with carbon
guess it depends on where its going
Don't forget moving stuff back and forth
You could save space by moving toolkits, and returning with carbon. And then craft the toolkits with carbon instead of 2x iron
Requires the proper tier for the base involved, but could potentially save mining time, without increasing freight time
Not sure about the exact numbers, gotta run it. (Considering total craft times).
Also, not viable unless you have a lot of crew, and can afford to leave them all spread out doing multiple tasks in several bases
We are exclusively on solana
You can use usdc or atlas the link to the market place is in #šālinks
Solana is tge chain.
Usdc and Atlas are currency yaed
Usdc usually the best one
Hardware wallet ledger and hot wallets solflare and phantom
i do have exodus
but not sure it is working
support bot said no
but no human answer
Backpack a LOT better than Phantom.
I don't think Exodus works.
ok
You have a ledger?
If so, you can install a supported wallet, and just import it into it. Doesn't even need to type the seed phrase.
hardware wallet only
All 3 mostly used wallets support ledger.
Solflare, Phantom, and Backpack
I personally use Backpack for manual transactions, and Solflare for SLYA (a script that is supported for some automation)
fair, phantom has fallen a lot in the last time



wow, take care buddy, pls 
take it ez fams
is not like you can have a million DM's responded every day
there FAQ, there tickets
and a game like this is not like i make a good joke
i'd love i have time to test bugs etc
atlas was x4 some time ago
The fee is 0.00204?
0.002 SOL is 0.33$
ahh okay
all good
i included thbe costs of fees costs!
any new exchanges comming ?
lol this is more realistic
Italian colours
did someone sell 770k copper at 0.00008 price by mistake, today?
so you don't consider refined components, right?
no, the person who sold it perhaps does
I want to refund it if it was genuine mitake, without noticing an extra decimal
its only for raw materials
Then i'm checking the eveeye tool
that one was a scammer haha
šŖ
I know, don't worry, thanks for intereference anyway
ooo cool cool š«
btw, I think a person made a mistake, is this a senders wallet or it's atlas's?
its the wallet
HAMPTERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doo doo doo doo
Hope everyone's havign a good day š
Just wanted to pop in here and spread some rodent love around š
Straths
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That GIF was actually made for me by my dear friend Sprite š
how is sprite doing
Haven't spoken to him in ages it seems like
I kept touch for awhile
But he has been so busy trying to move around to find a good place to be
hopefully he is ok, can't wait to see him around here again
He was in some corrupt country that spent all it's money rather than investing in critical oil infrastructure
And so they lost their ability to earn
yeah
I feel the same way
I'd kill to sit down and collab with Sprite again
The first time we made Tufa Attack
yep I remember
Sprite slapped this together for me like a year or two ago when I mentioned I'd like all my ship skins in UE5 to be Texas themed lol.....hope the guy comes back to make it a reality!
Very cool
most underappreciated ship
will be first ship to return to origination price
is my bet
but got no thrusters.
It uses Faith for propulsion
best fuel freight in the game rn xD
love these ships
when we get PvE combat and these things give ur fleet passive health regen
everyone will regret sleeping on them
healing is imba in any MMO
is what 13omb3r tells us
think he's right

yeh cept u start cutting healers always to get more damage once content is cleared š

I don't think PvP is planned for this game.

Is SA going to feature PvP gameplay?
I thought this was a singleplayer blockchain simulator.
HRZ!
wdym
High Risk Zone will be PVP and you can even loose your nft's. Unless they have changed something recently
This is the official Stardew Valley discord, isn't it?
S&B not into PVP did seem weird.
Nah
Hi guys, just new here just wanna know if there's ongoing staking rn, like the rate for the number of months. Any requirements or any other relevant information?
As a reminder, do not trust any DM's you may get, no on official will ever DM you
Okay, noted. So is there an ongoing staking event happening here? Already checked the website can't see any.
what you want to stake?
for the tokens
Alright let me check that. Thanks mate!
would not advise ship staking anymore, the rewards got reduced a few times and it eventually will stop, if you have assets try sage
Alright coool, Thanks for the tip!
I do sometimes ya
Not a bad game
Just kinda long and drawn out lol
we started a base yesterday with solace heimdall and the bulk guys
Logi is what I usually do
But I haven't reinstalled the game since I got a new comp
im super bad at the frontlines
Lemme see how long it takes
it isnt big i think
I'm so ass at combat in that game it's ridiculous
5 gigs or something
i want to try a tank
they also have uboots now
but base first
It takes forever to upgrade bases
You guys keeping it stocked with guns and kits and stuff?
Gotta update vid card drivers one sec
I was playing a bunch of Enshrouded for awhile btw
Good game
Where are you guys located??
i forgot shit i think its wardens
yes my uniform and weapons are
You should see a symbol of a fist holding a sword somewhere if your colonial
Wardens is a weird bird head thing or something like that
Bird badge*
i see a fist


