👽┃general

[carmine pelican]

I would highly suggest you try it for yourself if using it. Use any sol explorer and compare. It's super easy to import into a different wallet and you can still use either one, at any time, including playing SA, with no game impact of play or game support needed.

[gaunt zealot]

Use solflare, phantom is to expensive

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[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/server-down-alert-gif-14391847562283027276

[junior venture]

1

[mint crystal]

2

[warm tulip]

3

[desert beacon]

5

[lost rivet]

Hey thanks Sly, i couldnt do what i do if it wasnt for you and your peeps TY

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[mint crystal]

8

[thorny lagoon]

noooo, I thought we were counting primes

we do Fibonacci now?

[valid estuary]

Anybody having issues with installing upgrades. This was my last batch from SLY upgrade. Tried manually and it ends into the same error message as we had with SDU before. Cleared C&C and used P&S Wallet.

[thorny lagoon]

13

[modest vault]

21

[desert beacon]

Oh shit we still on point, trying to throw a wrench and it turned into art

34

[thorny lagoon]

55

[desert beacon]

We did miss the second 1 tho

[waxen raven]

89

[woeful oracle]

where is the 3d browser version i cant seem to find it now

[thorny lagoon]

deprecated, will be rebuild in UE5

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[carmine pelican]

I want to 2nd this @mint crystal fantastic work sir. Thank you. 🍻🫡

(Your script has made a huge difference in me continuing to play Starbased due to TX fees and personal time savings.)

[carmine pelican]

Left facing, right triangles are the Greatest!

(Invert of this: 📐 = 🚀)

||(sometimes I cry laughing at my own jokes, this is one of those times...move on...nothing to see here folks)||

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[shut bramble]

I will laugh with you

[patent iris]

Can I laugh too?

[carmine pelican]

No! ||Yes!||

[shut bramble]

NO

[carmine pelican]

Come on.... Virtuwul is pretty great! I also see y'all's banter here. 😆

[shut bramble]

That’s because his aggression isn’t taken out on you!!!

[carmine pelican]

Fair. He knows I'd go ballistic, publicly though.

(It's happened once or twice. 😅🤣)

[carmine pelican]

Your a cool gal under heat, I am the opposite. (Well a guy here...but I think you get me)

[west slate]

yeah he got a little testy over the claim stake thing I mean I get why he is upset but well development is development

[patent iris]

There was zero testiness on that situation lol

[carmine pelican]

CS and forever before they really matter y'all mean?

It's a mistake imo.

They could be utilized now, in-game, In an id that also resets.

Chris likely says no

[west slate]

lol its fine, I mean they did tell us that we should have them up by now

that was like what 2 years ago

[west slate]

it has to do with the prefab stuff mostly

[carmine pelican]

Mining and power plants?

[west slate]

yep

those are 1 use items

so if the stakes get reset those get burned

[carmine pelican]

Eh, it's just development timing restrictions based upon current ideology

[west slate]

honestly I do kinda get it they also want to keep the game as simple as possible to make sure things work right

[carmine pelican]

Yeah, that's fair

At the same time, land in crypto should matter

[west slate]

well yeah

its the curse of being early as honestly as far as web 3 gaming is concerned this is very early

[carmine pelican]

No offense but that's the "crypto excuse"

And people don't like it

[west slate]

the fact of the matter is there are realy no aaa crypto games yet

its not an excuse its a fact

[carmine pelican]

True. It doesn't mean the NFTs sold have to wait forever inside the economics game SA has stood up

[west slate]

all the tech still needs to be properly built out to actually make things work

[carmine pelican]

It's very arguable

Ofc 😆

[west slate]

the fact is stakes are being used

[carmine pelican]

Yeah, and are still of value. Not arguing that, only that, their importance is very low at present

[west slate]

also the other aspect is would people rather the game just folded like well most other big projects

like the fact is if we keep rugging our own bags the space will never actually have anything of value

[carmine pelican]

I mean...I do get it. CS aren't worthless and we are in economic transition... however, their importance should be weighted, at all times, during economic changes imo

[west slate]

the fact is for the first time the general public has the ability to truly fund projects we want to see, the other side is that now we see the actual investment side of the game industry and are having to come to grips with how long stuff actualy takes to create

there are tons of projects that we never heard of that had initial funding that fell through

there are tons of studios that have produced multiple sucessful aaa titles that go belly up on big projects, the fact is the fail rate in crypto is honestly no worse just more public

on top of the scams and ponzies

the fact is we can't rush and make this another ponzy type project

[carmine pelican]

I'm not arguing this thought process. In actuality, it's the only reason I still buy stuff and play SA.
It doesn't diminish the importance of land NFTs and how they should always have weight inside of each stage of development inside the economic structure

[warm flare]

will there be creatures in star atlas?

[carmine pelican]

What do you mean? Tigu is already an NFT. I imagine Puri will also be one some day? 🤔

[warm flare]

Like in wow.

[patent iris]

MAAAJOR creatures. Monsters are coming. And there will be monster hunting mini games

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[west slate]

well we already got promised eldrich horrors in the hrz gating our way to iris

[grand vector]

Hello everyone, I entered the game, where ca u race ? or there is anything else could be done in the game rather than just running ??

[west slate]

1000 player battle royal mode was tested

and yes you saw that number its correct to a point

[grand vector]

sorry i didnt get it ?

[west slate]

surge game mode, its ofline right now but its there

semi stable with 1000 people

[grand vector]

can anyone join ?

[west slate]

when its up yes

[grand vector]

any idea when ?

[west slate]

nope

[grand vector]

anyone out there has a Session ID that can share?

[west slate]

its not like that its a limited time game mode right now

[grand vector]

so the announce an open game then u join to test ?

[west slate]

yep

[grand vector]

thanks 🙂

@west slate Thanks

where do they announce ?

[carmine pelican]

Jith your being too defensive

He's just asking how to play

Or she

[west slate]

it will be in announcements

[west slate]

surge is only up when they put it up

[carmine pelican]

I think you brought up surge?

[west slate]

there is the mode against bots thats always up

[west slate]

yes I did

[grand vector]

im just new sorry

but what is surge ? and if u want to try with bots how u do that ?

[west slate]

I think thats in experamental mode

there should be an option in the main menue to turn that on

experamental mode opens up a lot more options

[carmine pelican]

So Star Atlas currently has 3 game modes. An FPS gameplay (commonly referred to as "Surge") and a Racing mode, both played from the UE5 showroom (I think). The third mode is the browser based economics game called Sage Labs: Starbased

[west slate]

there is also the dogfight

[carmine pelican]

Oh snap, I should play that someday. Lol

[west slate]

he was asking more specifically about ue5 so I brought up surge

ie he was looking at racing and asking about anything more exiting

[carmine pelican]

Let him say what he means...often, texting sucks.

Just sayin

[grand vector]

all i know for now and do is the faction fleet.. but wanted to get more details and understanding on how this game works, and wanted to test the game modes

[carmine pelican]

Your in good company, it's just hard to grasp context sometimes

[west slate]

starbased is where we get to use our ships and where all the econ loops are

[grand vector]

and where can u enter ur starbased ?

[west slate]

based.staratlas.com

[grand vector]

and with bots u can race or play an actual game ?

[west slate]

the econ loops are all just 2d browser stuff

the fighting bots is still mostly just a test type environment not an actual game with a story or missions or anything like that

[carmine pelican]

You can play the racing game and fight against, in game combat bots without owning an nft

[west slate]

yeah the ue5 game is 100% free to play right now

[carmine pelican]

You can also play the FPS without an nft

Aka "surge"

Can you Dogfight without an NFT? @west slate

[west slate]

I think so

we have the test ships that rotate

and I think you get an x4 for it for free

[carmine pelican]

@grand vector faction Fleet is about to be deprecated fully, pretty soon, and the best use of your ships (economically speaking) is now Starbased. Probability is extremely high, at present, that your ships are negative earnings inside Faction Fleet.

[west slate]

pure minimum there is the floyd

[carmine pelican]

Floyd...whaaat? I'm no Floyd!

[west slate]

the free medium ship we get thats not on the market floyd liner

[carmine pelican]

Ohhhh...I MAY be a damn Floyd

Lolol

I have my doubts

[west slate]

the ship is called the floyd liner

only exists in ue5 right now

[carmine pelican]

Uh huh....I have Liners also named Floyd... anyways (Dad jokes, all night here)

again I cry at my own jokes...move on... nothing to see here folks

[west slate]

I mean you could be the manufacturer who knows

[carmine pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-laughing-hysterically-gif-26398146

My Floyds are now properly lined.

Are we still talking about an SA ship here? 😂

[west slate]

well yeah manufacturer is floyd the ship is the liner

so if your a floyd then you might be the manufacturer

[carmine pelican]

I love you (platonically)

😂

@grand vector did you get your questions answered sir/ma'am?

[grand vector]

@carmine pelican Thanks bro for now yes, I think i should keep trying and exploring

[carmine pelican]

People here are happy to help. We just need to know what you own mostly, and how you want to play and/or your goals. SA has great promise imo

[grand vector]

Im a gamer and i like to explor new games specially these kind of games thats links to NFTs and can make money

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/manul-lazy-lazy-manul-sleep-gif-26516029

[carmine pelican]

We all want to make money...but that doesn't mean we actually will.

[stray marsh]

Go to sleep

[grand vector]

this is what im trying to understand in SA

[carmine pelican]

There's a fine line in web3 gaming to be understood here

[cold ledge]

so you in ue5, you can enable experimental and choose a racing mode

for economic gameplay you need to play the browsergame

[cold ledge]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5pAvoGF9O34&si=S4ZNdPp2nOtUeVEU

[cold ledge]

so how is your summer, you been to the beach yet?

[stray marsh]

Have gone to the beach but I drive next to it all the time now

Sun is just too hot for me during the summer

35C

[cold ledge]

brutal

[stray marsh]

What are you gonna do

[cold ledge]

good question

nothing planned

there is a pool nearby, but i have to go early, otherwise its to many people

no beach, no ocean 🙂

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[opal rain]

🚨 GM. Daily Report. Starbased datas are in the second page.👉#🐤┃community-tweets message

[grave sigil]

GM ☀️

What a lovely sunday

[shy scroll]

☀️ 😎

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[elfin tundra]

soo upgrade projects run too at 20%?

if no tools

[gloomy elbow]

Can we have a dock,unload cargo,undock button please?

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-john-what-asking-gif-15622277

[quasi glade]

I can vouch for this. Lost all my ships on Leverage.... Gonna be an epic comeback story....

Who needs to be scared of hackers when I can just blow all my ships up myself? lol.

Anyhow, missed you guys while I was crying. Earth is back soon.

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[quasi glade]

Luckily the leverege monster couldnt kill my polis. I still have a breath of air left and I will defeat the leverege monster at some point and concoct an epic Star Atlas tale from the slaying.

I got 20 bucks on 4.5 leverage as we speak. I dont learn well.

🙂

[topaz sleet]

Good morning dudes , happy to be here , Aephia rox

I am ustur, need to guidance for strategic planning

[ancient spire]

Have transaction fees gone up again, or is it just me?

$0.14 to claim $0.24 of carbon....

[elfin tundra]

i think we will, but many wont. but i guess there will be only like 2 big points in development. Combat is first stage. Then many people will come, they won't earn as much as we willl. And then next stage will be UE5 release version where you could actually travel the galaxy and do missions

[gaunt zealot]

Don’t use phantom they have high fees

Use solflare

Or backpack

[ancient spire]

Thanks, do solflare and backpack work on Android though?

[outer stump]

Why did you blow pot smoke in that cat's face???

I read somewhere that there were some updates to SDUs in Starbased coming out sometime during this past week, however; I have not seen any. Did I miss it? Or it was just Scuttlebutt and not true?

[cold ledge]

#🩹┃patch-notes message

[gaunt zealot]

I’m not sure, Pretty sure solflare has to work since I use it on my iphone. But the ui is kinda wonky for mobile

[plain pebble]

This is what community event looks like here☺️

[shrewd thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/a-night-to-remember-movie-a-night-to-remember-anighttoremember-anighttoremembermovie-titanic-sinking-gif-12213862323105496514

POLIS

[cold ledge]

i think you forgot the pic?

[full bane]

b hv

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[elfin tundra]

cant claim 😦

transaction doesnt want to go through

[cold ledge]

#ticket

[stray marsh]

you should do some traveling

[topaz sleet]

Come on man, not even a hi dude let’s rock?

[cold ledge]

yeah i should

[cold ledge]

Welcome!

[topaz sleet]

So, where I discuss some USTUR strategy planning?

[cold ledge]

on the top left channels and roles, select ustur

then you get access to the ustur channel

[muted ore]

Good morning and welcome!

[outer stump]

Thank you kind sir, however that was 4 weeks ago. I was under the impression there was one for this past week.

[cold ledge]

i lost track sorry

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[cold ledge]

#📢┃minor-announcements message you meant this one?

[grave sigil]

How can some people get 3 faction role? I saw some did

Was it a bug?

[cold ledge]

yeah not sure some discord settings

[cold ledge]

who has 3 atm?

[grave sigil]

I saw them 2 weeks ago and not looked carefully who they were

I will let you know if I come across again

Checked some and I saw @shut bramble She has 3 faction roles. Is it something everbody can do?

[cold ledge]

she probably took it when it was bugged in the beginning

[grave sigil]

It is not a big deal btw. Just wanted to learn

[cold ledge]

yeah people can switch any time, no real secrecy

[grave sigil]

This was my point 👍

[shy scroll]

I have ONI+MUD - Originally started with ONI, then changed to MUD when I joined The CLUB. Hadn't really paid much attention to if it completely changed my role or not... it appears I still have both 🙂

[cold ledge]

i think atm you only can choose one

they fixed that at some point

[mint crystal]

I heard vb spies on all the factions!

[cold ledge]

i could but i have them muted

not really interested

rather talk to all my spies in the guilds lol

[grave sigil]

are you affiliated with any specific guild? 😁

[cold ledge]

nah mods stay neutral

also dont have spies, just friends 🙂

[pine musk]

Definitely something someone with spies would say

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/listening-what-fbi-chris-redd-alex-moffat-gif-11784633

[west slate]

nah paid mods have rules, being part of a guild would make it harder for them to be mods

[pine musk]

https://tenor.com/view/jok-joke-it-was-a-joke-look-penguin-gif-14579006

[vagrant cradle]

guys anymore CEX listing plan for atlas and polis

[cold ledge]

probably mostly depends on the cex

[vagrant fulcrum]

Depends on the volume of every transaction

[vagrant cradle]

NGl atlas has good chance of getting listed on major CEX's

just need a solid game which i think is probably being developed right

maybe u wanna try one of those korean exchanges like bitthumb upbit coinone etc first

[west slate]

its up to the cex to list it, the team is not activly trying to be listed

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[elfin tundra]

to slovenia

[elfin tundra]

yes its a problem. i opened ticket. No answer yet. Happened few days ago already

but yeah. SDUs for some reason has problem

[west slate]

hmm they said they fixed that

[elfin tundra]

i guess no 😛

[west slate]

so if its ongoing #ticket

[elfin tundra]

yep, waiting for response

[gloomy elbow]

You could have said this without the NGL at the front

[thorny lagoon]

I thought it was fixed on friday, at least that is when it worked for me, did you try again recently?

[elfin tundra]

its not working

if its ready for installation this means it already used tools right?

does it need tools for installation?

[thorny lagoon]

I don't think it needs tools to finish but I might be mistaken. There was an issue where you couldn't finish the installation at all. When you try to finish now does it give you a sim error?

[elfin tundra]

the one with reverted transaction

[lost fiber]

Hey all, I have just one fleet that gives “something went wrong” with any attempted interaction. I’ve tried clearing cache and refreshing since yesterday. All my other fleets are working fine.

[thorny lagoon]

best to wait Darwin to check it, maybe it is another issue not related to the one I had

[west slate]

I had an issue like that yesterday with it being a false positive finish on an upgrade

I think it might have to do with all the timer changes that happened

mine did clear up in time

[west slate]

dono, if it actually finished no, if its a false positive then yes

however unless you honestly need the crew freed don't put in tools

this is also where faction cordination comes into play

[thorny lagoon]

it is possible that mine had the same issue and cleared up with time. The requirements for SDU upgrades looked really long after the last upgrade. Like it suggested that I need 6-7 min to install then the timer showed hour and a half

[west slate]

yeah its looking like timers are all bugged out, guess we need to wait for tomorrow to get it fixed ie I don't want them trying to fix it with just the weekend crew

[thorny lagoon]

I don't think finishing the installation requires toolkits - if it does, then there is another bug where the interface should not suggest to install them unless there are toolkits in the base

[west slate]

yeah you don't need active tool kits if its actually finished, if its a false positive then thats a diffrent story ie mine was it was short by 11 min or so but was reading complete in the ui

unfortunatly the only way to test that would be add tool kits or check on that website that tracks everything

[thorny lagoon]

If I manage to claim another upgrade without toolkits in the base that should also confirm the test

[desert beacon]

If unable to complete the deposit it’s likely an rpc issue

[west slate]

the catch is the only way to check if the timer is not actually done would be to add more tool kits

as its the clock display thats all buggy

ie what likely fixed mine was someone added in a few tool kits that finished it out then I was able to claim

[thorny lagoon]

I see what you mean, you are saying that the upgrade did not actually finish, only the buggy timer report it has

[west slate]

exactly

now that was my issue I was able to calm down about it once I saw that happened ie the display in at least part of it fixed long enough to show the 11 min remaining

not saying that thats whats going on here but its something that might be going on here

also why its best to try to cordinate it in faction ie see if anyone has stuff they need to submit and try to pressure a whale to supply the tool kits

[pulsar moat]

Gmgm

[nimble compass]

Hey guys how do I buy ships with atlas? Does phantom support atlas?

[stray marsh]

Yes it supports atlas

You can buy ships from the marketplace

[nimble compass]

I searched for atlas on phantom app and didn't see it on there to get adress

Don't use phantom often tho

Do I just send my atlas to solana adress?

[west slate]

buy some off of jup or just transfer it into the account it should auto create the token accounts then

[stray marsh]

https://jup.ag/swap/SOL-ATLAS

[nimble compass]

Awesome ill bookmark that site. I already own atlas on bitrue tho. Can I just send it to solana adress in my phantom wallet?

[stray marsh]

If you have it as solana spl you can

[wispy widget]

Happy Sunday friends

[late condor]

Statistics show 10/10 Sundays are happier after you've appeased your local pirate guild with a 100k Atlas donation.

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-science-its-science-gif-20674302

[mortal lark]

https://tenor.com/view/money-show-me-the-tom-gif-24782719

Happy Sunday ?!? It's Monday already

[viscid atlas]

Do you also experience failed transactions? They are very repetitive.

[limber steeple]

If you are processing the same txns all over, it's possible that the very first one is still processing in the background. give it some time of do a hard refresh before trying again

[sour folio]

anyone experience where you had a craft going but then all of a sudden it says pending and cant start or cancel it?

[limber steeple]

I suggest #ticket so the team can further check this issue.

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[visual rampart]

Ok

[split solar]

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[torn crest]

GM GM ☕
I heard there’s a new sheriff in town today

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[shell glacier]

So cheers

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/im-gonna-keep-my-eye-on-you-sheriff-donovan-galpin-jamie-mcshane-wednesday-i-got-my-eye-on-you-gif-27434165

[torn crest]

great job on the nomads yesterday 🍻

[cold ledge]

who are you, welcome to Star Atlas.

[torn crest]

Hi.
Felt like trying a walking simulator today. Love taking walks outside and my friends at this other web3 game comunity said this is the place for me

[cold ledge]

can you translate, i dont understand

[atomic bramble]

hello, im a norwegian salmon fisher. come to see if there's fish in the star atalas universe?

[atomic bramble]

Ha, thanks, was good to get some info out there for sure, the bois are crushing it!

[torn crest]

cant start my first official day here with bashing another community, so you have to translate it yourself

[torn crest]

looking forward to the AMA today!

[rose zenith]

we need to have Gold Checkmark for our beloved Star Atlas X account. it will give us more reach, security and it looks really professional. We are the number 1 game on Solana ecosystem , we got to have gold ceck mark. even debridge with tiny community has Gold check

[cold ledge]

https://help.x.com/en/rules-and-policies/profile-labels @wispy widget

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[grave sigil]

GM Saddix ☕

[torn crest]

GM GM
All good my friend?

[grave sigil]

Yeah perfectly fine

you doing well?

[torn crest]

doing good, thank you

[grave sigil]

You are the new sherrif? 👀

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[torn crest]

Well, I'm not THE sheriff (thats still VB)
But starting my first day as a mod today 🫡

[grave sigil]

Great to hear that

[atomic bramble]

Nice! Gratulations!

[torn crest]

thanks benny!

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[fresh mulch]

wtf is that ?

[robust abyss]

Items that I was crafting have disappeared from the progress. They are not showing in Completed either

[torn crest]

what happens if you press start?

[fresh mulch]

start or cancle does not go through 😛

[torn crest]

tried ctrl+F5 hard referesh?

[fresh mulch]

i just deposited 3M food to craft and this shit happens

[torn crest]

you tried a hard refresh as well?

[fresh mulch]

i'm talking to you and f5ing

[torn crest]

k this is weird. maybe https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/895336048517849099

[fresh mulch]

it worked on the 79th refresh 😛

[loud mural]

Hello guys

[torn crest]

GM

[loud mural]

what is the lvl for the HRZ nowadays?

[torn crest]

should be 10

[robust abyss]

Tried resfresh and rebooting. Created a ticket,

[torn crest]

that sucks.
ok good

[valid yoke]

What a crazy weekend.....

[barren magnet]

Looks like part of the ingredients didn't make it into the txn. Press start and the game will deposit any missing ingredients and start the crafting job, or cancel to get everything back and start over.

[topaz pine]

Another pretty recent cause for this is just UI. Everything actually goes through but Starcomm only updates half-way through. So start and cancel don't work. You can cross reference against EveEye to see the correct crafting status and take action based on that.

[serene willow]

What about pre-loading FS into un-upgraded bases? 🥴

[barren magnet]

I'll post my FR response to that here.

[barren magnet]

TL;DR. It's working as it was created, and the opportunity cost of locking your crew while you wait for the job to be ready is althe balancing mechanic.

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[lime lichen]

@wispy widget could we perhaps get this as a mini announcement? Thoughts?

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[serene willow]

I couldn't disagree more to this being working as intended, but hey, what do I know? 🤷🏻‍♂️

I write a long reasoning post here on why, but meh... Just another of many bad choices. 🙁

[mortal lark]

frontrunning is generally a frowned upon activity in any field, cannot even begin to imagine why this is "working as intended", lol

[drowsy ingot]

I'm having this issue all weekend. It just always fails when I try and install to starbase and release my crew. There are no Toolkits at the starbase now, but I feel I've installed before when there has been no Toolkits - anybody know for sure if this is the issue?

[mortal lark]

Not to mention, you are getting those upgrades done at a discount on toolkits, makes no sense

[serene willow]

Don't get me started... But hey, everything is fine! We have 7k Atlas/day! Yay!

[mortal lark]

How are people even doing it, on the backend ?

Like, that just seems like outright cheating, lol

[cold ledge]

#ticket

[serene willow]

SLY can do it, but to be honest, the possibility of having features only accessible through 3rd party scripts, and not through the official UI, is enough for me to quit the project.

It's one thing to accept scripting. It's another to leave a backdoor open accessible ONLY through scripts.

This is absurd.

But working as intended. That tells a lot.

[sacred ruin]

Good morning. How can I get access to Showroom mode?

[peak glacier]

so is botting, but this team encourages it 😉

[torn crest]

GM!
@cold ledge should be able to hook you up with a code

[rapid fulcrum]

Hello

[mortal lark]

automation is one thing, but this example is essentially doing something that is not readily known or available through the in-game UI. That is considered cheating in my book. It's not altering game code, but the result is the same as altering the game code.

Most SLY activities (not including this pre-loading thing), are readily available through in-game UI, warping, subwarping, mining, scanning, crafting, etc etc.

[torn crest]

Hello there 👋

[mortal lark]

automation just means you can have it going without interaction, fine, but this is something else

[elfin tundra]

did u make it work? i still didnt get any response, also can't claim upgrade 😄 i think they overloaded with tickets atm

[peak glacier]

where is the use of SLY know or readily available through the in-game UI.
I resisited SLY for 3 months on moral grounds of not wanting to bot a game, but gave in eventually when i realized it was an "Intended feature"

[sacred ruin]

And how can I get this code? where do I request it?

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/youtube-twitch-meme-chair-office-gif-19928140

[mortal lark]

pretty much all the features that SLY offers are just automation, every activity is available through in game UI, SLY just automates those activities. But this backdoor frontrunning upgrades is not built into the UI of the game, nobody knows about it at all (until now maybe through hearsay), that's not ok.

[uneven umbra]

UHYML-STLN4-KRWPX-W72SJ

Once signed in to your Epic Games Store account, click on your NAME at the top right corner, and choose REDEEM and enter the access key you got. And once you have redeemed it, you will find it in the library

[uneven umbra]

Hellloooo fren

Nice new color

[torn crest]

GM GM

[uneven umbra]

Welcome to the fam 🫂

[peak glacier]

you are forgetting, Sly works and plays the game even when Starcomm goes down. people relying on the UI are stuck.

[torn crest]

Still the community mod color, gotta wait for santi to make it official and color me in proper orange 🍊

[mortal lark]

FWIW, I am not pro-botting or automation, however, it is allowed. At least SLY is available to everyone that wants to use it, even not being an official tool. Having said that, obviously, using SLY you have an advantage over players not using it, but you are not performing any activities that one cannot perfrom through in-game UI, at least until now with this backdoor pre-loading of starbase components. That is my only point, that you seem to be missing.

[uneven umbra]

lol, I just woke up, I'm lost hahaha

But lets gooo

https://tenor.com/view/lets-make-it-official-jackson-holidate-lets-make-it-formal-lets-make-it-legit-gif-18709424

[torn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/beyonce-ring-singe-ladies-put-a-ring-on-it-gif-5598751

[uneven umbra]

Gm bro, a lot happened over the weekend?

[wispy widget]

Gm

[mortal lark]

my son is turning 7 today

[willow kiln]

good day and good week

[peak glacier]

I'm totally with you.
all I'm saying is it starts with allowing SLY.
once that was done you cant put the genie back in the bottle.... this is just one thing that has come to light.
Wait till people figure out more ways to gain an edge...... Trust me bro, it will happen 😄

[peak glacier]

Happy Birthday to the little man !!!

[uneven umbra]

Gm seer

[uneven umbra]

Oooo nice, HB to the boyyy 🎉

What is the plan for today?

[uneven umbra]

Gmgm

[peak glacier]

GM GM !!!
hey Santi, are you ever going to give us the crafting recipe for the Honeyland NFT?

[serene willow]

Exactly this.

[serene willow]

Yep. And the team's response shouldn't be "this is an intended feature". That's the big problem here.

[peak glacier]

whats the alternative, they cant just wake up and say you cant use SLY, without giving an alternative.

[mint crystal]

Happy birthday, little Saskwatch! Hope he has an amazing day

[mint crystal]

I think it's important to distinguish between automation and exploitation. Allowing one doesn't automatically imply allowance of the other.

It's confounding and confusing the issue to lump them together.

Having said that, I think it's very odd that this is expected behavior.

[peak glacier]

firstly thank you for all you do for this community.
you are the true hero here.... you are our "Roaring Kitty"

[wispy widget]

Happy birthday to him!

[mortal lark]

yes, this is the point I was trying to make earlier.

[wispy widget]

Oh man, I feel really bad about that one. Should’ve happened a while ago but we had to prioritize some other things. I really hope we can do it soon

[peak glacier]

they dont have contol over something they have not made.
So unless you are willing to remove that feature from the tool, they cant do anything.

[wet shore]

Nice you guys throwing a big party? My son turns 2 on the weekend and wife is going all out

[peak glacier]

did you start playing Honeyland already ? Still waiting to see you in there 😉

[wispy widget]

Wish I had the time brother! Too much to pay attention to already in Star Atlas

[mint crystal]

The problem is in the on-chain program. Anyone can directly interact with that program and issue instructions.

In most other aspects of the SAGE programs, there are checks in place which cause the instruction to error.

For example, if you try to scan before the cooldown is finished, it errors.

[mortal lark]

We celebrated at my mom's house yesterday (cuz weekend), today is children's day at school, so he is actually having a nice party with his classmates. Then we just do something simple when he gets home 🙂

[serene willow]

Not having broken mechanics, and calling it a feature? They're literally saying that upgrading past the tier-compatible list is "working as intended". This is just unbelievably absurd.

Can you imagine this same stance on more important features?

"Yeah, he got 3x missile damage because he pressed "up, up, left, right, A, B" when launching them. And even though it's unknown to 99%, it's a feature, and working as intended. Also, you need a 3rd party script to unlock this feature, can't access it through our game client".

Pfff

[wispy widget]

I’m sure it’s going to be fixed though.

It also kinda makes no sense to start upgrading a new tier without the previous one being complete

[peak glacier]

Amen brother.

[wispy widget]

Given how long they take

[serene willow]

Xcode literally replied here saying it was "working as intended". You see the problem?

[wet shore]

That’s amazing. Hope the day goes well with him

[serene willow]

Not to Xcode, apparently. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[outer stump]

Good Morning!

[wispy widget]

What is it that worries you, the actual mechanic that can be broken? Or the fact that there’s something that can only be accessible by interacting with the chain?

[wispy widget]

Gm bro

[outer stump]

How are you friend?

[wispy widget]

I mean more on the players side. Why would you want to do that?

[wispy widget]

Doing well brother. Having a coffee right now, cold morning in the city of Buenos Aires. How about yourself?

[polar wren]

It's becoming more and more apparent that there will just be infinite ''edges'' to be had . And if you are normal player with no additional knowledge or skill or time - you will get destroyed . The Escape Velocity event was already only for a small group of players because of automation . Was it like 97% of activity by only couple bot accounts ? And now all the high tier upgrades are only for selected narrow player groups .

[outer stump]

I'm Awesome as always! Don't have any work scheduled for today, but I am hopeful something might come up. Pushing my crews and ships as hard as I can.

[wispy widget]

Escape Velocity bots didn’t make anything more than regular players, rewards were capped

[mortal lark]

top tier content will always be for a higher tier group, no matter how balanced the game becomes. The only real issue here is that it is not available through in-game UI, and obviously, the disparity of organization (easy to coordinate with 4 players, as opposed to trying to coordinate with 500 players) is what makes it seem bad. The real underlying issue is the fact that 50k+ crew operates at the same cost/efficiency per capita as a 100 crew operation, that is the real problem that needs fixing.

[topaz pine]

It turns out all the guys who are faction hopping are advocating HARD to get this feature removed. I had to step back and ask myself "why"? It turns out these guys are already timing upgrades to line-up to pre-loading would do nothing for them. Instead, pre-load would hurt them because it allows players that do not play 26 hours per day to get an edge on Starbase upgrades.

[wispy widget]

Is this all because of the upgrading other tier before the previous one is complete or am I missing something?

[mortal lark]

you mean what people are raging about ?

I would say yes, lol

[topaz pine]

The big stink is that everyone thought that the big sniping players could come and preload 120k crew and finish field stabilizers in 8 hours. So this big "worry" caused all the drama.

[serene willow]

No official UI access to specific features. But more important, the fact that when present with a clear bug, the team responded with "it's working as intended".

[topaz pine]

The hilarious part is the big sniping players are already finishing starbase upgrades in < 8 hours, and dont actually need to pre-load.

Preload hurts the big sniping players so they joined on the band wagon to get it removed.

and the issue blew up

[mortal lark]

The fact that it is not an inherent part of the in-game UI, but people are backdooring and preloading components is what people are complaining about.

[wispy widget]

I’m trying to understand if this is such a game breaking thing

That requires some dev time at this stage

[wispy widget]

I see lol

[mortal lark]

If you want my opinion on the matter, it just magnifies a more core issue that needs to be resolved. And that issue is that someone who operates 50k+ crew is running at the same efficiency/cost per capita as someone operating 100 crew, That creates a massive disparity at scale for those operating larger crew amounts, not to mention it is highly unrealistic.

[polar wren]

I am just saying it was automated heavily with expensive ships in prices . How fair it was in the end - idk .

[serene willow]

You fix a problem by fixing a problem, not by creating a new one that is a problem only to a specific group. And then call it a feature.

Come on, man... I know faction hopping sucks, but this is clearly a mistake being painted as a feature. It's absurd from all gaming perspectives.

[topaz pine]

Yeah the whole entire thing got convoluted with the actual sniping going on. No one has even used this mechanic yet.

[mortal lark]

The actual preloading of components, IMHO, is not that big a deal. The fact that it is being backdoored through 3rd party scripting, and not available through in-game UI, is the problem.

[mint crystal]

Well, I disagree on the on-chain part being a problem. I think that aspect is absolutely amazing. They just need to be incredibly diligent with the programming.

These types of issues are not new, and they happen all the time in traditional games.

The choice to put the game logic on-chain introduces complexities that the developers need to accept for, but it also grants unprecedented flexibility to the community.

[serene willow]

To me, the stance from the team is the game-breaking part. 🥴🤷🏻‍♂️

[topaz pine]

Preloading is negligible. Anyone who has the power to effectively preload isn't doing it. They are just upgrading the instant the Starbase flips because they are playing 26 hours a day.

[wispy widget]

Feels a bit like unnecessary drama right now tbh

[mortal lark]

no, it's not unecessary, lol

[celest lichen]

GM

[wispy widget]

I understand the feedback side don’t get me wrong

[serene willow]

Yep... It's all drama from my end. Nothing wrong with putting a wall on features and making it available only through scripting. Yep. All good.

[celest lichen]

All Good For me.

[topaz pine]

I'm not sure if you know this but Ustur had 2 Starbases upgrade to Tier2 in the last couple of days and filled with Field Stabilizers from 120k crew in less then 8 hours. Every time this happens Discord gets crazy.

[mortal lark]

I mean, lets be real, if people are doing things that are not available through in-game UI, are cheating, for lack of a better word. Then for the devs to turn around and just say "it's by design" is strange, lol. It needs to be worked into the UI as quickly as possible, if it is by design.

[wispy widget]

You realize this tech has existed for less than 6 months right?

Just leave and come back when you can feel more comfortable using it

[topaz pine]

So really people are just upset about the upgrade sniping if anything.

[serene willow]

This is precisely why I'm ramping off from this project. It's always twisted into "players fault". 🤷🏻‍♂️

Take care, everyone. And extract as much as you can. Thank me later.

[wispy widget]

I see

[topaz pine]

earlier this AM

[celest lichen]

and it's geting better week by week !

[serene willow]

It's ok, it's all my fault for being shocked on the matter. Take care, Santi. Hopefully things improve drastically (and I don't mean the game, but the team's stance).

Peace!

[mortal lark]

@wispy widget it's ok, don't let it get to you personally. tbh, mostly, the team is doing fine. When things are mentioned, we know you guys are doing things to rectify, it is normal for people to become impatient.

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[cyan wraith]

Nothing to see here...move along. Everything is fine.

[wispy widget]

Brother, there’s no team that listens more to community feedback than this one. But lately it feels like every time something happens people like yourself start screaming “we’re doomed, this is the end of the project”.

Stuff like this will continue happening and we’ll have to constantly work on fixes, but as a user you need to understand how early in the process we are.

[mint crystal]

I think the crux of Lerinor's concern here is with the team's response.

There is a capability that is unavailable through the normal UI, but the team says is intended to be there.

[vale dome]

believe me, there would be a lot less hate if mods just never interacted with anybody, a bit contradictory but it's in some people's nature to complain if you offer the possibility to

[mortal lark]

I think he was mostly ticked by the response from the devs, which was essentially "it is working as intended". It would go a long way to just say something additional like "We are aware this is not an inherent part of the UI, but is currently working as intended. We are still collecting feedback on this feature to see if it makes sense or should be removed."

You guys really need to hire a PR guy, lol

[mortal lark]

I think you mean devs, mods job is literally to interact with people, lol

[topaz pine]

It all happened so fast I'm not even sure the team had a chance to digest it. I don't think Xcode realized it was a big issue. I wouldn't put any negative or careless sentiment behind xcode saying "its intended."

[vale dome]

I'm sorry, you are right I meant devs hahaha

[sacred ruin]

I need to put my seed frase or private key to access de game?

[desert beacon]

Well it could be worse. They could have said “please don’t do it”

And done nothing till fix it

[cyan wraith]

So just wanted to pull the string on this statement a bit. When the entire Community has been screaming for measures to stop Faction hopping such as Auto LP redemption and Cooldown timers and the team puts out a message about changes that NOBODY asked for such as export taxes...how exactly is that listening to the community? And the fact that these were announced about a month ago and still not implemented and no further announcement regarding an update as to the delay and/or changes to that policy...how again is that listening to community? I'm missing something obviously since I have been backing away significantly from this place, so would appreciate letting me know how I am wrong about the above.

[uneven umbra]

You can log in with your wallet (https://support.staratlas.com/how-do-i-connect-my-existing-wallet-to-retrieve-all-my-ships) or create an in-game wallet (https://support.staratlas.com/how-do-i-create-a-new-wallet)

[mint crystal]

Agreed - I definitely don't want to see the devs censored.

I think people sometimes forget that this team actually does listen to the community.

Just because something is intended currently doesn't mean it can't be changed.

I think people forget that we can bring these things up as discussion points without raging and throwing blame.

[wispy widget]

Appreciate the context added @mint crystal @topaz pine @vale dome @mortal lark

The fact that we have devs interacting here with people is quite wild, but sometimes it can trigger emotional responses like what Lerinor was sharing. I understand your guys' point and I think it's more what Bryan is saying, Xcode didn't really realize that it was an actual issue. I saw the internal channels, they're working on a fix.

[polar wren]

Well it's not even that's some parts of upgrading are unavailable , but more because there is monetary incentive involved and because of that it's creating this ecosystem which promotes better and more efficient tools to be created to extract value and will be done privately to gain the edge on others . We can't deny how impactful for production increase was the sly tools . And the only reason we have them because the guys chose to release them for no cost at all . And at the moment it seems the gap between players is growing bigger daily , at least that's the feeling . We are not even that late in the game to make parts of the game unusable for most . Will we reach 2 hour FS filling times soon ?

[desert beacon]

Very happy to hear that a fix is being deployed

[wispy widget]

But if every time we disagree with a developer, or there are differences in opinions we think that we're doomed and it triggers emotional replies we're only going to cause them to interact less in here

[topaz pine]

Exactly. The problem is anything related to sniping field stabilizers is a MASSIVE pain point. It's just such a naturally disliked feature that anything that touches it causes massive drama.

[desert beacon]

2hours? Try 2 seconds

[wispy widget]

Exactly this!

[cyan wraith]

With crew drop on the horizon and no Auto LP redemption...100% we will see 2 hour FS completion times.

[topaz pine]

But we should be expliclity clear here. Any abuse that people THOUGHT would happen with pre-loading is ALREADY happening via the upgrade sniping from large players. They are just timing it. See @cyan wraith #👽┃general message

[wispy widget]

I think a fix like that can take more development time than it was expected before. But I'm happy to check status for this specific one today.

[cyan wraith]

Those 2 items were never even announced as a future fix. We only have seen the export tax "fix". It's why we are all up in arms about the future and the perception of how we are not heard.

[wispy widget]

The conversation on Wednesday is going to be interesting for the ones who are interested in the state of the economy and how our team is looking at it

[topaz pine]

sleeping for 48 hours to speed up time

[wispy widget]

https://discord.com/events/789226204980707409/1245842688029233202

[wispy widget]

The export tax one should have an impact on faction hopping

[mint crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/tennant-david-tennant-timelord-gif-4769682

[outer stump]

This sounds like the cost of doing business, of course what do I know? I don't come here much. It actually sounds like more "Whale" Crying to me. You don't have to be involved. Everyone came of their own free will. and it is so sad that this channel has become the "Whale" Cry Station.

[cyan wraith]

Hurts smaller players more. Whales can and will pay the fee because the earned amount in LP will offset it especially since they can wipe an entire upgrade component in hours. Smaller players cannot offset it. Again, this goes against the statement that team is listening. We have been saying this since the announcement.

[vale dome]

Exactly!! I would think they are the ones who are gonna be less motivated to interact, not only not to affect the project sentiment, but also not to be pointed out so hard as guilty of something

[wispy widget]

Tune in on Wednesday, we're going to discuss this and more.

I'm definitely not the expert on game economy here.

[mint crystal]

You should create a write-up with a collection of the suggestions that you have proposed surrounding this.

I think a lot of the ideas you've come up with warrant further discussion. Unfortunately those ideas get buried in the other stuff.

In other words, people see the "don't do this" but the "you could do this" gets lost

[serene willow]

Thank you. 🙏

[mortal lark]

I think you missunderstood my point, but that's fine, it happens often on here

[cyan wraith]

I have been a broken record for MONTHS on these issues...even before the team released their announcement on the "fixes". The team has definitely seen them. We have all discussed them and almost everybody has agreed that they would like to see them implemented (in fact have never seen anybody argue against them honestly). The team decided to forge their own path.

To me it is clear who this game is being built for (and who they listen to) and I have been vocal about it while exiting. Unfortunately I am stuck with locked positions.

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[mint crystal]

Come to think of it - perhaps we can start a community doc with a list of suggestions. And when we think it's in a relatively presentable state, we hand it over to the team.

Or perhaps we can use these as talking points during discussion times with the team.

[wispy widget]

This would probably be helpful to be honest!

[serene willow]

It's all perfectly fine. Just that my last 2 interactions with the team regarding important issues were:
"It's working as intended", and "it's not supposed to be fair".

But yeah, I'm just being dramatic.

I take 2 weeks off, and come back to things going in weird directions, and stuff that was even positively implemented being abandoned. What happened to the changelog, for example.

Like I said, please carry on. I'm irrelevant.

[outer stump]

Here we go again with "smaller players"! Everyone is here of their own free will, no one twisted my are to come here. Rule #1 of any PVP game; "If you don't want to lose it, don't bring it into play!" Rule #2 "There is no such thing as a 'fair fight'. A fight is a fight, win or lose." If you don't want to fight, don't come out. PVP is alive and well now since the LP system has been established. I don't hear anything here new, just "It ain't fair!" "We want our assets protected." More Whale Crying!!!!! In My NO So Humble Opinion; If yoiu don't like things the way they are, you can always go play another game. After all, this is a game!

[modest vault]

That attitude is gonna kill the "game" lol

Can we pre-load before the fix comes?

[outer stump]

Maybe so, Maybe I am the one that needs to go and play another game. Again after all, it is still a game.

[polar wren]

It's a great idea , but who will take the lead and do it . Id love to add some suggestions .

[mint crystal]

I hear you - it's absolutely frustrating. I'm going to make an effort to collect some suggestions that have been previously discussed and put them into a doc so it's all in one place.

Whatever direction you go, thank you for your passion and contributions. I can only speak for myself, but I've always found your ideas and conversations incredibly insightful.

[cyan wraith]

Appreciate that!

[modest vault]

Doesn't matter

😂

[mint crystal]

I'll give it a shot. Fire them over, or tag me in the discussion.

[plain prairie]

If measures are not taken soon, it seems we will forget about the "power of people" entirely, and with small and medium players leaving the game, we will be watching a version of the game played automatically by 10-15 people. The sly module is very useful and I use it myself, but what happened today at ustur mrz22 cannot be explained solely by the sly module! It is very interesting that FS can be booted and this is overlooked (considered normal) by the team.

[wispy widget]

Appreciate you doing this, please make sure to keep me posted on it and let me know if you need any help.

[wispy widget]

We are working on a fix for that specific bug.

[plain prairie]

I hope so..

[dark seal]

[wispy widget]

Good Monday morning!

[topaz pine]

It's not actually going to change anything though. The upgrade snipers are essentially already "pre-loading" right now, but doing it manually.

This was just a bit of a red herring.

[topaz pine]

Yoooooooo. Did you buy all the Polis under .20?

[cyan wraith]

If only we knew how to fix these issues easily.

Oh wait....we do.

You could literally leave the pre-load code in there and just enable Auto LP redemption.

[topaz pine]

Santi said they are going to talk about this on Wednesday. Looking forward to it. 🙏

[uneven umbra]

[barren magnet]

I think you are jumping to conclusions a little too quickly. No one is painting anything. Discussion needs to happen (and is happening) to work this out. Just give it a bit of time.

[topaz pine]

This is true. If auto-redemptions were on it wouldnt really matter who sniped what/where because it wouldnt be profitable to do on a short term basis and thus preloading wouldnt have any power.

[waxen raven]

Intended but not released on ui , ban addresses that preloaded. 😁 (and freeze asset accounts hahahahahaha)

[dark seal]

I came here to check first and decided not to again 😂

Caught gme early tho and got out at a nice gain

[torn crest]

Wow Ghaz. You look different. Did you shave?

[outer stump]

@modest vault Hey I changed my mind. I don't need to go and play another game. NO! If the goal is to get "Thousands, or even tens of thousands of players" then NO I need to stay.

We barely got 1000 people in that playtest for UE5 and Metagravity

WE right now TODAY are not even 1% of the goal to bring in players.

If you want gamers coming in here, there BETTER be consequences to losing a fight or they won't stay!

NO YOU crybabies, (Man I want to just be a vulgar as possible!) Need dto look into the future and see what the reality is.

This game will fail if we fail to bring in the gaming audience

[topaz pine]

The Star Atlas vision is not just a "game". It's a living metaverse. Treating it like just a game when it has 132m GDP, bigger then many countries, is the wrong move.

[serene willow]

This sums up quite well my current sentiment on the project. 🙁

[outer stump]

Right now it is actuallly JUST a bunch of investors who are scared they might lose on their ijnvestment

[outer stump]

YOU miss the point, No one will come if there is no risk

GAmers get a rush out of the thrill of the fight winor lose!

[topaz pine]

I actually have no idea what you are talking about. There is tons of risk here.

Are you actually playing Sage?

[outer stump]

Than I am in the wrong place, and you must not be a gamer. A REAL gamer who is at their PC every available waking hour doing what they love as as hobby. but now it can provide an income!

[outer stump]

You guys have no idea how to bring in the audience to support this vision, this metaverse, no clue at all, youare all too worried about you "Investment"

[modest vault]

It doesn't matter though. People are quitting in droves.

[outer stump]

Yeah I am way over your head because I look 20 years into the future, and you barely look at next week

I'm out By

[modest vault]

Team ability to adapt to problematic mechanics on the fly is important in a perpetual game that lives on the blockchain.

They are pretty good at that.

But they aren't great.

[serene willow]

I'm sorry, sir, but you quite literally said this was "working as intended". Working as intended means it's intentional. This is my issue here. It's an intentional mechanics behavior, hidden from the UI.

[modest vault]

Also being fully on chain is not that convincing after seeing all the fee issues for smaller players.

I'm not sure who SA is even trying to appeal to atm.

[topaz pine]

Yeah ... It's an extremely difficult problem to solve because SA has no control over Solana.

[modest vault]

Honestly making SRZ feeless and then moving into MRZ where it's fee'd but you get more resources

might be an interesting idea of a fix

don't have to worry about creating constraints on the combat mechanics in SRZ then either

You "gate" players who can't profit from MRZ but they couldn't play already right

Iunno who knows what is best

I hope someone figures it out

[topaz pine]

Yeah that's an interesting idea.

[topaz pine]

Me too. Doing nothing or kicking it down the curb is very hard on players.

[serene willow]

We have more urgent matters to fix. LP needs to be overhauled. SRZ, MRZ, or HRZ, if we're talking about adoption, we need an environment that favors both adoption and team working. Currently, we have none.

[barren magnet]

We have to start somewhere.

[serene willow]

Without shady stuff going on. I know the team has good intentions, but once something goes off the rails, it needs to be addressed. LP went off the rails on week one.

[modest vault]

for sure

[barren magnet]

Anyways, this conversation has moved on. Fix is in the works. Give it a min.

[serene willow]

This whole pre-loading is just... Crazy to be even considered as a potential feature.

But fair enough, moving on.

Important one, that isn't big, but relevant: why did the changelog get abandoned?

Changelogs are actually cheap PR. It shows progress.

[dark seal]

Yeah, beard is out of the way of my best assets now

[spark hollow]

whales ATM, seeing as the LP is dominated by them and so will be the DAO at some point in all likelyhood. Almost can't blame ATMTA, it's just like any freemium game, the whales bring in the most cash so they're the main target audience

[cold ledge]

your bait

[barren magnet]

We had some really good discussion on fees this weekend. It's important to take a step back look at this in perspective. Take a look at part 2 of the game manual. Specifically the "Tech Demo" phase. This is where we are right now.
https://staratlas.com/newsroom/game-manuals

[modest vault]

well I accidentally did the exploit and now my crew are stuck cause I get whitescreened and can't cancel 😂

working as intended I guess

opportunity cost etc

[barren magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/find-out-gif-27502543

[modest vault]

well u said it was intended feature

so 😂

[barren magnet]

PR is up to patch it.

[modest vault]

I guess I'll be able to cancel when the upgrade actually happens

I assume the patch it to add it to UI?

or is it to error the feature

[barren magnet]

I can't say what the final result will be until the PR is approved. But there is a fix coming.

[desert beacon]

Is it just me or is starcom rekt?

I’ve been doing a whole lotta nothing for 3 hours

[late condor]

you know what would be super funny & stopping faction hopping too? xD

don't airdrop any crew

cancel, lol

make 'em buy millions of crew packs

infinite runway

[barren magnet]

💡

[modest vault]

[late condor]

"Out of concern for the economic well-being of Star Atlas, we, as a Team, have - in an agonizing struggle - concluded that the planned airdrop of crew packs is detrimental to the project's survival"

[mortal lark]

Airdrop crew, then after first wave sales hype, nerf crew so more need to be purchased, infinite runway.

[spark hollow]

who cares, whales can take the hit. it'd be smaller players who take the hit having to buy crew

[late condor]

if whales buy 150k crew each after such a scam move, fuck it, everyone stop bashing them - they've rly earned the right to milk us dry xD

[dark seal]

Because we are friends, only changed it for server

[split solar]

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[carmine pelican]

I think this is the funniest one liner I have ever read here. 😂

[carmine pelican]

Working as intended? Let's change the intentions then, so more players can participate? I think there's quite a few players who can't risk locking their crew for an unknown amount of time, to "qualify" as a participant in the upgrade.

[barren magnet]

The change is already in the works. Thanks.

[carmine pelican]

Sweet. Thanks for responding! 🍻

[viscid atlas]

IF YOU ARE MUD, we have the opportunity for 11 hours in a row to make improvements to MRZ-4. It is lacking on SDU. That´s the last item for tier 3 upgrade.

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-you-i-want-you-depend-on-you-uncle-sam-america-gif-25693932

we need your sdu

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoy-there-friends-ahoy-hello-hi-greetings-gif-15214642

[lime lichen]

Good luck with that lol that’s a lot of SDUs

[granite jungle]

As i said before, still a whale game, they have a lot to work on ..

[elfin tundra]

anyone already got response from support on issue of claiming these upgrades?

[polar wren]

1. Add a ''starbase finalizing'' timer after completing a tier. So that all players have an equal opportunity to add FS, RA, PA in the next sb tier. // The flip between starbase tiers rn is decided solely by big players - they can do it in the next 1 hour or next 3 days. - completely up do them , which makes it easy for them to canabalize the upgrades . And when the crew purchases will be live - it will be a game over for plebs .

2. Change the toolkit gate so that everyone can work on upgrades in any sb without toolkits - similar to current crafting system with tiers // Having to race to sb where toolkits are provided and make it there before supply run out or sitting in a sb without toolkits and waiting is not fun.

[shell rivet]

Any news on the reduced quantity for SDU upgrades? Anyone know when the team will change it?

[mortal lark]

An approach that incentivizes will always be better than an approach that disincentivizes. Cost of running business is a thing, if everyone is running around Galia with no consideration of cost of operations, we will create a black hole of value being extracted from the system with no sinks. This will have a negative impact long term, not a positive one.

With the current update of no food needed for crafting already is removing the incentive to inject food into starbases. Do that for toolkits too, and what do we have ? might as well go play Axie infinity where for some boring repeatable tasks, you get free money handed to you.

Then we can watch ATLAS plummet in value the same way SPL did.

Sometimes it's like people have never played a game before, there has to be sinks, there has to be strategy, you have to be able to chose between 1 thing or another. It can't just be everyone gets to do everything for free and at no consequence should they make an error in judgement, that won't be good for the longevity of the game.

[polar wren]

The issue i have with the sb upkeep is that it does not scale . on T1 sb a small player has to provide 100k toolkits to get a 21 min upgrade window . I have toolkits and yet i never use them , it's pointless . I don't have 1k crew to take advantage of those 20 min efficiently .

So many things in Starbased for me just feel completely ''gated''

[serene willow]

Toolkit + food should be added as cost when starting the orders. Kinda like scanning. Problem solved.

The upkeep system was supposed to dilute costs, as in, small players can piggyback on bigger players. It failed.

Add to that the complete lack of collective play incentive from LP system, and we arrive at where we're at.

Everyone scanning pays that cost, and it works as intended. A food sink. Just do the same for crafting.

[mortal lark]

I like the idea of collaboration, and essentially "sharing" the food or toolkits with whoever will use your crafting window. It is just unrealistic that one should get to use those windows free of charge. If there was an incentive in that the person providing the food or toolkits gets rewarded for doing so dependent on how many other people use their window, you would see many more starbases upkept for longer periods of time, because all of a sudden, there is an incentive to do so. Not only that, but it will encourage announcing when you open crafting/upgrade windows, and maintain the collaboration playstyle which I think is the direction they are trying to go.

I see it as a communal silo, whereby everyone is getting to eat the food provided by one player

instead of each player having their own little silo, which is kinda unrealistic.

The main issue is that the person providing the food, their only incentive currently is to speed up their own craft, before they had to do it otherwise they couldn't craft at all, but that incentive is significantly reduced now with the crafting speed only being reduced

[serene willow]

Until LP can be extracted/exploited like it currently happens, there's no collective play.

It's bigger players chasing cheaper operations. And as a colateral effect, bases get upgraded.
Should be the opposite. Upgrading the bases provide a proper reward, more if done towards a collective goal.

[mortal lark]

yeah, we don't see the purpose, because it is not available yet, it will come with time

[serene willow]

Not talking about purpose, but incentive.

[polar wren]

That's the thing the is no collaboration mechanism in game at all apart from guilds . A lot of player would be happy to chime any amount of toolkits if they would know it would lead to some goal apart from earning LP. Right now supplying only millions make any sense .

[serene willow]

Purpose will come in time (combat, strategic base's roles, etc.)

[mortal lark]

current incentives are purely monetary, but even later, most incentives will be purely monetary, whether to get ahead in the game, or to cash out is irrelevant. The incentives will remain the same.

[serene willow]

Incentive is what we're lacking. Currently, the incentive is Atlas. And finding the cheapest Atlas source.

It should be skewed towards collective engagement

But it's heavily weighted on individual playing/exploitation.

[mortal lark]

well, imagine if you knew when supplying toolkits, you would get a portion of the LP earned by players using your upgrade window, all of a sudden this opens opportunities for smaller groups of players to do something interesting. or at the very least, to announce to high heavens when you are providing toolkits, because you want as many people as possible to use your window.

[polar wren]

I would say it's only this

[serene willow]

This is a pretty cool idea

[mortal lark]

this idea is being toyed with by the devs, this for toolkits, and portion of ATLAS fees from crafting for crafting windows. So fingers crossed, we can get something like this into the game, would be pretty sweet, IMHO.

[uneven pilot]

Whats up Fam??

[serene willow]

Would whales exploit it? Totally! But no loss, because that would mean they'd provide tools/food. The exploitation itself would trickle down to anyone benefiting from using the crafting window opened.

[mortal lark]

that's the beauty of it, if whales want to try and "exploit" it, they could only do it to the extent of people actually wanting to use crafting/upgrade windows, it doesn't automatically guarantee profits, it just increases your chances that if you get enough people to use your window, it could potentially be break even, at least.

It also opens up opportunities for things like sanctions and sabotage, which is kinda interesting.

if a whale thinks they can just go around supplying starbases, and rake it in, it won't happen, because most of their injections wouldn't even be used. There would still be a reason to want to use your own crafting/upgrade window. injecting food or toolkits would not become a meta play or something.

[serene willow]

I'm down for any idea that tries something different. The current system failed, as far as collective play style.

[mortal lark]

the incentive shouldn't be so much that you can just go around supplying starbases and making profit, but it should be enough incentive that you would want more people to use your crafting/upgrade windows, because in doing so, they would be decreasing your overall cost of operations.

everybody wins, more starbases upkept, and people injecting won't feel like they're being "leeched" on by other players.

[polar wren]

Idk man , the current system seemsreally fucked . I would love to see how many players are actually upkeeping . Imo only for big players it's viable atm . For everyone else - no incentive at all .

[mortal lark]

the reason it seems unviable, is because most people don't have 30% crew, if you have 30% crew, it is viable.

if your total fleet investment is worth $1000, you should have $300 worth of just crew. Most people are not playing callibrated this way, which is why it seems unviable.

But that is actually my point, like, the fact that you have to actually think abit about your fleets, and callibrate, that is kinda good, in terms of gameplay. it is just unfortunate that we only really have 1 loop, and it's not a great one, but as more loops get integrated, it will improve.

[polar wren]

You are completely correct , i do have medium ships and i feel like there is less and less gameplay loops to engage in . It's like 5 crew per ship for M . At this point i have no idea what to engage in if not investing in more crew .

If somebody buys solely 3 mambas you are left only with SDU scanning

[mortal lark]

yup, if you want to participate in the LP game, fleet composition is super important. Most people don't want to restrucuture their fleets, but if they did, they would probably have less to complain about.

LP game is 30% crew, 60% miners, and 10% freight (using warp)

[nimble belfry]

Is it possible to somehow connect wallet from iPhone? Using browser?

[uneven umbra]

Yes, through phantom

Or solflare

[nimble belfry]

I have both apps but, when i go to browser and try connect wallet , nothing happens

[cold ledge]

you have to use the browser integrated in the wallets

[nimble belfry]

How dose this work on iPhone??

[cold ledge]

its a little globe in phantom

when you open the wallet

[polar wren]

It's more of a issue that you have to have a big fleet first and foremost for everything at this point , not so much the restructuring problem . Don't know what is the start in starbased if you own only few ships, sdu scanning ? Can't have only singular thing left to do in starbased when there are already not much to do .

[cold ledge]

bottom right i think

[polar wren]

hi vb , what are the things you are doing in starbased , i am curious . Do you do upgrades for LP ?

[cold ledge]

na no lp, im sort of idle mine hydrogen copper biomass and iron

and craft and hord

im to slow for lp with transport

also dont spend much time

mostly trying to get some xp

not smart enough for the big moves and have no excel sheet to 🙂

in theory i know how to play better i guess, had some help from the german guys especially viktor

but yeah i do not grind it hard enough

i hope for more mechanics, missions and stuff and ue5

just press start and f5 a few times a day i guess

[polar wren]

Ya definitely, me neither . Hoarding R4 makes sense , because there will always be use for them , can't go too wrong . I don't know what to grind that's why was curious what are you up to . Components seem to be not viable to make anymore either.

[cold ledge]

and do some crafting on the css (finally :))

[cold ledge]

i think you have to check eveeye and then go behind the whales with upgrading the stations

[polar wren]

Same here . Hopefully soon .

[cold ledge]

to snatch the good lp

[mortal lark]

The thing about the current LP farm, is that the barrier to entry is quite high. That is the only problem right now.

[cold ledge]

yeah in a few mins i get new stats for small players from viktor

i hope i can show them what to do

[polar wren]

Chasing the upkeep and being of mercy of others is a bit annoying tbh 😄

[cold ledge]

when they arrive here

[cold ledge]

its better now 🙂

[mortal lark]

I would say that smaller players are kinda stuck between choosing SDU scanning, or mining raw and selling, or doing small crafting jobs, and selling. It is quite normal in games of this nature that crafting is a higher scale activity, seems to be the case here too.

[elfin tundra]

@cold ledge can i tag someone from the team for the issue with claiming the upgrade LP?

[cold ledge]

yeah there should be a few small simple loops, just need to see the data for treshold so i have confirmation its worth it

[polar wren]

Yea looks like you are really just fucking around for xp 😄

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[cold ledge]

indeed

[mint crystal]

I think this is more of a band-aid. I see the core problem as the combination of a shared LP pool, lack of diminishing returns, and a lack of a meaningful small-player game loop with independent rewards.

[cosmic scroll]

It seems like small players need to still invest quite a bit in order to participate in this economic game. Its not a traditional game by any means. I am looking at making .05 percent per day as a small player, minus the fees and
(extensive deposits 30$ until returned) I am forced to use low priority fees as a small player to make it worth it. I think if the mechanics become more streamlined with further developments fees could go down which would help small players more than anything. I always leave one item in inventory when transferring to avoid constantly paying for new token account hashing. I think that .05 percent per day is a reasonable return if that can be achieved but investing only 100$ in any economy is not going to get one far. We have to think bigger when we are thinking about economic "engagement". The social engagement will be built on top of the economic engagement. If the whales and the small players need one another economically I think this is the type of engagment the team is attempting to develop in their LP scheme...

I can't wait to see the battles and the pirating begin! Free economy never takes place long without security!

[cold ledge]

https://flipsidecrypto.xyz/Aephia/star-atlas---economy-xGXyHF?tabIndex=5

it has different budgets and loops

very helpful for smol players

[mint crystal]

This last bit about bigger and smaller players depending on one another - I think that's a great point, and highlights a significant gap right now. Currently, it's very much a one-way dependency.

It would be interesting to see some suggestions on adjustments that would allow smaller players to act in that "supplier" role (or some other role).

[pulsar moat]

Gmgm

[uneven umbra]

Gm morty!

[mortal lark]

I see the current LP structure as a means to an end, which is why it doesn't bother me so much. The more systems that are in place to exchange value between players, the easier it will become to wean people off LP redemptions for ATLAS.

[pseudo crane]

Using resources in exchange for LP is an option, it is not mandatory...

[mortal lark]

diminishing returns on crew will fix alot of issues currently, I feel. hopefully it is something being considered

btw, a system where value is exchanged between someone using an upgrade window and someone providing toolkits, is a great way for smaller players to actually get a leg up on bigger players. If a big player uses a smaller player's upgrade window using a shitton of crew, the value of LP transfer from bigger player to smaller player should be substantial enough to make chasing that kind of thing actually worth doing for a smaller player. Whereas for a bigger player, they would still be primarily injecting toolkits only because they plan to do their own upgrading.

[west slate]

its better for them to build out the other planned systems before doing things on chain to fix this one

[olive willow]

Bros, when altas polis will pump ?

[uneven umbra]

You can discuss these topics at #📊┃economics

[elfin tundra]

when you bring more people to space battles

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-venator-providence-gif-21667318

Can't f waittt

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-where-the-fun-begins-star-wars-fun-begins-this-is-where-this-is-gif-20519545

[olive willow]

Ok I try

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/luke-skywalker-star-wars-i-love-you-my-heart-point-gif-17163153

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-pew-gif-14552925

[valid yoke]

Would be awesome if food worked in this way kinda..... You get a portion of the atlas fees whenever your food window is up 😛

[valid yoke]

So I modified a GIF for the bigger more combat oriented players in SA 😛

[mortal lark]

Starbases would be online 24/7, that much is certain, lol

The relevant ones anyway

[uneven umbra]

lemme see thaaat

[valid yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793777406137466881/1241214986928521306/4fe3ac17-5d87-4c00-9842-08909f7dba67.gif

There was a lotta smack talk going around

I figured it was only appropriate to make a GIF about it 😛

[uneven umbra]

looool

the stick animations

good ol memories

[feral igloo]

gm

[uneven umbra]

Gm and welcome to the server!

[feral igloo]

thank you ser

[uneven umbra]

🤝

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[cosmic scroll]

I assumed that there was various ways in which larger players did manage to make larger percentages but that they naturally would be more confined to producing selling and providing raw resources with big fleets and small crews. I am new and so am just assuming this must be the intent of reliance with the food and toolkit mechanics. Otherwise it could obvoiusly just work like any other burn where you have to pay so much food or toolkits per craft just like you have to pay so much food and ammo to mine etc.

[west slate]

the main thing that larger players get right now as far as return is the fact that if they threw all of what is submitted to starbases up on the market it would just crash the market

effectively the race to the bottom is going to happen until we have more econ loops

[waxen raven]

I'm a tell you all something: If the game survives us, it will be a great one

[cosmic scroll]

Is the link in the first window there on flipside real offering 10 percent off our first month in marketplace???!!1 I followed the link to star atlas but I already have an account I started two months ago and the discount does not seem to be applying.. Besides I spent most my money before I knew about this 😦

[west slate]

the game is doing fine aobut 3 mil generated from titan sales about half a mil generated from crew presales + the existing runway prior and all the other income being generated

on average the team is generating the monthly burn or more

note thats all that matters right now

note there is 1 more titan that needs to be closed on

[cosmic scroll]

How do we know that websites like this are authentic where there are detours that involve entering our wallet info..? Already been scammed once by a link from a mod to a "solana extentsion" so just trying to learn here

[cold ledge]

https://support.staratlas.com/how-can-i-verify-which-starpath-link-i-am-using

for the referral it depends which link you used first

its 90 days

you always could create a new wallet for purchases/referrals if you have somehow a referral you do not want to support

[cold ledge]

where exactly you want to connect your wallet?

only connect to sites you know

or use a burner wallet if you not sure

[cosmic scroll]

Yeah exactly I don't know it. It offers quests to earn Sol though!

[cold ledge]

the flipsite is just for checking statistics provided by the aephia datarunners, you dont need to connect anything there

its an community project to provide statistics about the game

also flipsite is legit

[cosmic scroll]

Yes I am looking at all that from this link I replied to!

[cold ledge]

but it has nothing to do with star atlas directly

[cold ledge]

well for info about flipsite use their https://flipsidecrypto.xyz/fc/resources

again you dont need to connect anything

[cosmic scroll]

There is also a quest to earn Sol button big in the top right corner on page of this link you shared directed me to.. I see ok I will dig deeper into "flipside" and do my diligence. Thank you.

[cold ledge]

everything for star atlas related you find here https://play.staratlas.com/

[cosmic scroll]

thanks@cacaokid

[cold ledge]

well these kind of things you should investigate yourself and use a burner

never trust any links or advertisements, there is always risks if you connect to unknown sites

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[modest vault]

I don't get the disconnecting from sites before u sign off

feels less safe to me?

but Iunno

[cold ledge]

?

[modest vault]

in that chart

like if I connect to SA

I know I've connected to SA for all future interactions

if I always connect then disconnect

it's easier to fuck up and end up on the wrong site no?

cause I connect fresh every time

if I get prompted to connect

I'll know something is up

if I normally stay connected

doucy?

u can't get drained from being connected to a site anyway so it's weird to disconnect imo

[cold ledge]

ah not sure i did not make this graphic just using it, but myself i always disconnect all sites/dapps in the wallet from time to time

[modest vault]

it's legit graphic tho

just always found the disconnect thing weird

[cold ledge]

yeah good for newcomers

[modest vault]

cause it doesn't actually save u if u fucked up

[west slate]

the only thing its good for is a shared computer but honestly you should not be using a hot wallet on a shared computer that should be hardware wallet or don't do it

[visual sparrow]

We concur.

[cold ledge]

so tell us more, you guys bought the titan and now go a similar way as superphoenix dao?

[late condor]

please hand over that T1 if you'd be so kind, thank you.

[visual sparrow]

You jest, friend. This is humor!

[late condor]

I am... not.

[visual sparrow]

More information will be forthcoming, friend.

[visual sparrow]

This was always our path.

[cold ledge]

dont be afraid of this particular pirat, he is mostly harmless 🙂

[visual sparrow]

We have been watching and we know of him.

[late condor]

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[polar wren]

Have not seen this before , thx ! 💪

[cold ledge]

its pretty new there is a vid explaining it as well https://youtu.be/DJTNQ5x-loI can highly recommend it to every small player

even just crafting is an option

but you have to check prices a lot

txn costs included in the calculations

many different budgets and options

shows you the best ships as well

super cool

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[polar wren]

Definitely will check it out , thank you vb ! 💪

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/stalking-spying-peaking-peak-hiding-gif-14341063

[mint crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-iseeyou-spy-spying-peeking-gif-22194239

[uneven umbra]

Heyyy groove

All good fam?

[mint crystal]

Yessir!

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-cool-cool-thumbs-up-gif-16055854

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[uneven umbra]

@limber steeple Let's chat over here hahah

Yah, its crazy

Almost half a year gone

Cant complaint btw

[limber steeple]

fr, fr fam

[uneven umbra]

Good first half

But can be better hahah

[limber steeple]

oh for sure. relative to what we had the past couple fo years haha

[uneven umbra]

And you, all good fam?

[limber steeple]

yeah, yeah. taking things one day at a time

[uneven umbra]

Hahaha cool

Glad to hear that

[warm tulip]

Mods talking to each other in chat? what year is it?

[uneven umbra]

Can someone ban krigs?

[limber steeple]

making things work fam haha

[limber steeple]

just like the old coolmIRC

[next sigil]

@wispy widget

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[warm tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

[warm tulip]

Where’s the timeout button

[mint crystal]

mIRC is where I got all of my music news! Tuesday release day was practically a holiday.

[uneven umbra]

Here

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grind-dont-stop-gif-26421494

[warm tulip]

Abuse of power!

[uneven umbra]

Welcome back fren

[warm tulip]

Silencing journalist!

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-monkey-gif-21207902

[uneven umbra]

Hahahahahh 😂

[warm tulip]

As long as that’s not one of my three strikes

Does the system keep track?

[uneven umbra]

Oooo

You've read the rules, nice

[warm tulip]

You mean the new rules

[uneven umbra]

We have our own system

[uneven umbra]

Yah

[warm tulip]

That Santi shooed me for

Reposting them

What kind secret rules is that

[uneven umbra]

What?

[warm tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-the-simpsons-homer-simpson-chief-wiggum-invisible-typewriter-gif-20366566

[uneven umbra]

For reposting the new rules?

I did not understand ahah

Oh

nice

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-chaldea-chaldea-reorg-calla-olivie-gif-19463476

[patent iris]

Can we give each other strikes for shits and giggles?

[hazy hedge]

Everyone in Ustur starts with 2 strikes

[patent iris]

That's why you're the best Mod in the game!

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-want-gif-13063193

[desert beacon]

Laughs in mud

[patent iris]

Can I give you a strike?

[uneven umbra]

Virtuwul (1/3) - shits and giggles / june 3

Done

[uneven umbra]

No

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-well-shit-grandfather-oh-shit-gif-17419001

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-carina-deluca-its-bureaucracy-bureaucracy-stefania-spampinato-gif-24816859

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[boreal elbow]

I've been out of the loop and just logged onto the new website but can't find any of my ships can anyone point me in the right direction to get them loaded in?

[thorny lagoon]

they should be in the old labs v1 https://labs.staratlas.com/

You can transfer them to your wallet then import them in the new game id for based https://based.staratlas.com/

[boreal elbow]

Sweet thanks so much for the help

It's showing a Starcomm Error: Service should be restored shortly

[thorny lagoon]

try again a bit later - if the game is still closed ask the mods

[boreal elbow]

Great thanks for the help @thorny lagoon

[limber steeple]

did you check your inventory?

kindly #ticket so we can further check. thank you.

[thorny lagoon]

labs is down atm:

maybe he can check in eveeye right now

[limber steeple]

question is did he even use labs before hehe

[limber steeple]

hey fam, did you use SAGE Labs before?

[boreal elbow]

Yeah I did that's where I'm stuck

All my ships are on it still? @limber steeple

@limber steeple just opened up a ticked thanks for the help

[cosmic scroll]

It sounds like small players pay more percentage wise on transaction fees, and big players pay more percentage wise for their LP at turn in.. What kind of daily percentage return are whales earning overall I wonder, if a small fry could earn .045 daily after fees on a decent day.

[limber steeple]

will check on that. thanks

[west slate]

that depends on set up, however large enough players the fees cut into profits a bit but don't mean much as the r4 is also effectively not a factor for them ether, its only very small players that are truly impacted by the tx fees anyone else just needs to minimize the fleets they use

ie more ships per fleet and lower number of fleets

[wispy widget]

Here is a message from Michael (CEO) regarding small players on SAGE. More long-term than your question but worth a read!

“A few people from the team have also asked me about issues with smaller players, particularly as it relates to tx fee issues. That separately needs to be resolved. But I also want to emphasize something I've said countless times on interviews.

The long-term success of the SA economy requires sufficiently complex systems to enable specialization. Right now, big players can do all things; smaller asset players can't. Until we can have a blend of game activities that makes it impossible for everyone to do everything, the current dynamic will persist. I've commented on various tie-ins to the UE experience that should create some big impacts to the economy. i.e. Skill based betting races in UE5 that consume food and ammo. In that model, it is zero inflationary from an ATLAS standpoint. We don't have ATLAS emissions. Players pay an ante for a chance to win from the race pool, if they're good enough. But they also need resources. So either they go in SAGE to farm them, or buy it from someone else.

The key point is that I think I/we need to be better at communicating is that long term, there is no reason for people to be so fired up about competition for the ATLAS emissions in SAGE. The emission curve is literally a bootstrapping mechanism for this phase of the economy. It kicks everything off. But players should really be focusing on how they can develop an operation that is in demand from other players. Because those other players are your P2E income source. People purchasing resources for skin crafting, gameplay, convenience, or necessity. You're the producer. That's the big gift we're giving you. We don't sit in the middle and say ATMTA is the only entity that can sell those items to players. In fact, we don't sell any of them, just like how R4 works today.

And a final note on this, because it was also asked. Right now it might not feel like much of an incentive to bring new players in because then they "take" from your share of daily emissions. But even now, it's healthy for the ecosystem to see player growth. For all of the assets you already own. For network effect. But also because having a larger player base will also lead to greater demand (alongside supply) throughout the economy. A higher GDP, and more trade activity, and more pockets of opportunity.”

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[limber steeple]

thanks, already mentioned this to the team as well. just waiting confirmation if it has been fixed

[boreal elbow]

Great thanks for your help

[cosmic scroll]

I am excited to see what the developers offer and I cant wait to try out the current showroom and game modes. First I need to upgrade my RAM..

[polar wren]

You can give it a shot increasing system page file first , SA does need quite a lot of RAM.

[cosmic scroll]

Ok thank you, I don't mind an excuse to upgrade my HP. After all in not long I will have earned enough from the 2D Atlas world in order to afford the greater dimensions.

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[lost fiber]

Question about selling on the marketplace. Is it normal for there to be $34 in fees for selling a $540 ship??

[cosmic scroll]

There are 6 percent fees to the DAO unless you have atlas staked in the "locker" which drops them a little. Fees go to DAO

[lost fiber]

Damn that’s savage. 😅 a brilliant way to prevent people from leaving though.

[cosmic scroll]

You also pay 6 percent on crafting in game, so pretty much the design is for the DAO to benefit from game growth, but yes you may have to hold em and use the ship to out grow that 6 percent

I paid the piper to trade ships recently. It would be nice if there could be an option for ship trading with lower fees in order to optimize fleets.

[thick loom]

Give scholarships to small players, resolves the issue.

[shell glacier]

this is not the only reason. it's also provide stronger DAO Treasury.

For daily traders it's annoying I admit it.

[fringe drift]

Guess it’s safe to say the 2.3 million atlas l just received as an airdrop on my phantom wallet is a scam right??

[shell glacier]

Exactly

[cold ledge]

probably yes, just to warn others is it a token with a similiar name or some scam nft which tries to lure you on a site?

[fringe drift]

At least the wallet flagged it as possible spam!

[cold ledge]

so it was one of these fake nft?

[fringe drift]

It was 2.3 million star atlas tokens

[cold ledge]

so an actual fake token? interesting, just try to figure how they would scam people with it, to warn others

if there is a site we might can take down or else

[fringe drift]

Not sure but anytime the wallet warns me l just ask in case , l just sent it to spam,… never even checked to see what the site was,…Scammers always hard at work,….where’s a good hello fire missile when u need one😆

[cold ledge]

so it was an nft saying you won tokens, not an actual token?

[fringe drift]

Let me see if l can pull it back up

[cold ledge]

dont need to

[fringe drift]

I have a screen shot

[cold ledge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845426752796622918/1026569862774001775/scam.gif

[fringe drift]

Yeah apparently it’s from atlasdao.net it’s a fake airdrop of tokens

[cold ledge]

thanks will report that one

[cold ledge]

we on quakenet or efnet?

[rapid fulcrum]

GM ☀️

[thorny lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-mocha-milk-and-mocha-bears-morning-mornin-gif-17296004

[limber steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/gm-star-atlas-gm-star-atlas-gif-24920945

[torn crest]

Gm star atlas fam

[torn crest]

Gm sistine

[limber steeple]

Sup fam!

How's Tuesday so far?

[torn crest]

all good. So far so chill.
Enjoying my cereals rn.
How's yours going?

[limber steeple]

almost 330 pm so in a relatively few more hours, we're into Wed hahaha

but so far so good.. lots of things happening hahaha

[torn crest]

thats true, a lot going on rn

[sick iron]

GM Fam

[torn crest]

Gm!
All good today?

[sick iron]

yes, getting ready to go make some fiat

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/shiba-inu-mining-nvidia-rtx-gif-20726165

[limber steeple]

Though crypto-wise kinda feel slow maybe just because I'm not in the meme hype haha

[torn crest]

or the celebrity coin hype haha

Yeah, some action would be nice. Been sideways for some time now

@cold ledge you dont seem to have some celeb coin alpha for us, do you?

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[ember lava]

Code ?

[torn crest]

Brew is on wednesday

https://discord.com/events/789226204980707409/1245842688029233202

[cold ledge]

#📊┃economics im not really interested in any celebs, i leave that to the kids and twitter

[torn crest]

https://tenor.com/view/grumpy-old-man-angry-fussing-gif-21564432

[ember lava]

Last Wednesday code it's work?

[torn crest]

Game7 code: Ustur

this one should be it