👽┃general

[cold ledge]

you can adopt that cat if things go south

[warm tulip]

the cats already been adopted

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/forever-alone-solo-single-gif-3906944

[cold ledge]

does the usa have a ministry for loneliness yet?

heard germany is planning one

i think gb and japan has one already

its a big threat to society

[warm tulip]

no, USA does not have the same societal ratio imbance yet

[cold ledge]

wanted to respond with a bad gunjoke, but loneliness is real i think especially older people

[warm tulip]

yeah that is a problem

ooh probably shouldnt talk about that in general

[cold ledge]

yeah sad topic

sa is never alone

[warm tulip]

lol

always alone*

[pseudo crane]

https://tenor.com/view/its-crazy-out-there-shea-whitney-a-wild-world-a-crazy-world-its-madness-gif-24478691

If you are in SA, you will never be alone 😄

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/ot2017-lidialg-hug-jumping-party-gif-11996537

[warm tulip]

I saw Germans the other day

[cold ledge]

did they behave?

[dark seal]

I found a guy who sold luggage bags in Germany for 20 years yesterday. He didn’t behave

Took out schnapps for shots at 2:30

[warm tulip]

yes they were nice

[split solar]

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[thorny lagoon]

Showroom seems to be still unavailable ( connection error ) - is the team aware @wispy widget

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[cold ledge]

yes saw some people having that issue

[thorny lagoon]

Does it work for you? I imagine it could be some sort of rpc error but not sure. Have not changed any settings since last time I played

[cold ledge]

will check

btw imagine being a scammer watching here all day and then try to scam kucheto lol

what a noob

[thorny lagoon]

give me all your support links 😄

[warm tulip]

bring back gaabs

[cold ledge]

he is still here im sure, but even him would not do that bad 🙂

[cold ledge]

it doesnt work yes, connected to a new thing tho gameanalytics api or something

but its broken

[cold ledge]

they working on something there

so team is on it

[thorny lagoon]

oh nice, that means we might get a surprise soon

[west slate]

ok so the issue likely has something to do with the set up for the closed beta

clearly means its being worked on

[cold ledge]

some rpc issue was the info i got

[west slate]

well yeah the actual issues are rpc related, however the new apis and what not are likely prep for the closed beta

[warm tulip]

yeah BAN!

[chrome garden]

https://x.com/PirruraGonzalez/status/1796445917022998987 looking for turret gunners.

𝕡𝕚𝕣𝕣𝕚 🧀 (@PirruraGonzalez) on X

ella: seguro me estará siendo infiel 🙄😡

yo con mis amigos:

Twitter · May 31, 2024, 7:37 AM

let me know lol

command deck podcast is in 4 hours

[wispy widget]

This looks sick lol

[pseudo dawn]

Anyone else have issues with docking and undocking with refresh in browser?

[tired sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/office-server-power-lady-unplug-gif-8220789

[thick elm]

have issues with everything...

[placid jungle]

me too... stop everything

[nimble belfry]

sage labs laging ?

[split solar]

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[pseudo crane]

It continues working well for me....

[cold ledge]

im ok to

[nimble belfry]

maybe some internet lags , works well now too , had some delay's

watching fleet movment only medium and large fleets

can you use miner ship as claim stake ?

[solemn kettle]

I have this error also …

[robust meadow]

yep they are working on it.

[pseudo crane]

i have not tried the showroom, but my Sage it's fine

[robust meadow]

showroom is down

[west slate]

yeah there is an rpc issue the team is on it

[west slate]

the team added some stuff (most likely prep for the closed beta) and it broke the rpcs

[mild lotus]

oi

[pseudo crane]

Not anymore...

[nimble belfry]

@pseudo crane good to know 🙂 thanks

[thorny lagoon]

Am I right to assume the Atlas reward for higher tier base for the pool does not kick in after the end of the epoch?

example - mrz-21 was upgraded to tier 2 today, but the pool is still 2 021 000. So next epoch after the upgrade it should be 2 028 000

[split solar]

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[west slate]

wow did not know uster was behind mud in upgrades what exactly is bodhi doing

[thorny lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[desert beacon]

https://discordapp.com/channels/789226204980707409/1225119095771631616/1246204387689234462

[west slate]

I don't have access to that, but you better step up in your home faction

[desert beacon]

i do what i can

[chrome garden]

Command deck podcast in 5 mins #📺┃content-creators message

[west slate]

its not that out of balance but honestly for all the drama uster and oni better be higher then mud as you have more whales/orginization overall then we do

[desert beacon]

the drama is nothing but a waste and a deterrent to new users imo

[west slate]

and from the look of things misplaced

ie if all the factions are more or less equal with amount of t2 stations then its blanaced

and if its balanced via faction hopping then its clear the faction hopping is needed

[desert beacon]

being able to scale earnings, while having a scapegoat to blame for your faction having less atlas to go around helps. not my style personally

[nimble belfry]

SAGE LABS HEllo

[west slate]

honestly I can't wait for racing/companion app at this point

it will get all the smaller players to stop whining about sage returns

[desert beacon]

the ironic thing is the whining comes from the top down.

at least the whining pertaining to me does

[west slate]

well yeah but thats specific triggered by the general

[nimble belfry]

will one day starcoom will work maybe ?

[desert beacon]

yea, wasn't hard to direct the heat.

[topaz pine]

I came for the ping! Holy shit it was a ping about pings.

[west slate]

yep you were the poster child bad whale

[uneven umbra]

yaah

more organized pings

[thorny lagoon]

strange thing I asked a tech question regarding the game mechanics and somehow we are back to Bodhi. My question had nothing to do with him at the first place

I guess I will find out if it is a bug after the epoch resets today

also, I would like to state just for the record - my problems with earnings in game have nothing to do with Bodhi or how he is playing the game.

[desert beacon]

All roads currently lead to Bodhi drama 🤣

[uneven umbra]

no mo drama pls 😭

[topaz pine]

i came for the ping about pings and ran straight into a circle jerk. was not prepared

[thorny lagoon]

the ping about pings is cool feature

[west slate]

it was just a jab about uster being below mud in upgrades is all ie not an attack or anything

[uneven umbra]

Yess

[thorny lagoon]

I know, I know. Ustur is catching up, we have some bases near t2

[uneven umbra]

The excess of pings makes people mute the server

So

[topaz pine]

thats not why people mute the server

Its the type of pings

[uneven umbra]

It may be one of the reasons, I am not saying that it is the only one

[topaz pine]

but mostly because you are waiting on OTHER pings

[patent iris]

Impossible to get too many pings from the team

[topaz pine]

For example... When you are waiting for an announcement to game balance or economic changes that is two weeks overdue and you finally get a ping... and its a SNEAK PEAK. That's when people rage.

[waxen raven]

STARCOMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[uneven umbra]

That's the point, now you can choose

[topaz pine]

sorry i dont really read directions i just clicked on all pings

(^everyone on this discord)

[thorny lagoon]

I know the feeling, like waiting for major update and getting a ping for Calico sneak peak. The new feature should allow us to get more focused pings.

[uneven umbra]

How many pings per week do you want?

[uneven umbra]

lol np

[thorny lagoon]

not saying Calico sneak peak was not great, just not what most were expecting 😄

[uneven umbra]

probably yes ahha

[uneven umbra]

Yeap

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/no-limit-stunts-gif-10775990

[thorny lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[waxen raven]

Are devs installing something?

[thorny lagoon]

I think they are working on Showroom, not sure about other stuff. Hopefully no upgrade for Sage coz it is Friday.

[waxen raven]

is starcom "late" for you too?

[thorny lagoon]

subwarping to scan so not sure, might be able to check in about an hour

[waxen raven]

.....

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

[uneven umbra]

I don't think so

[west slate]

about the mechanics I do think that the atlas is set asside early during the epoch so that any changes in the atlas reward will happen in the next epoch (note that when you put lp in it says rewards pending)

[thorny lagoon]

try this, it usually works for me:

1. Close all instance of browser running Sage
2. Wait 5 min and clear dns cache ( you can google how to do that )
3. Open private tab of the browser ( so no browser cache from before ) and open sage, check if it is alright.

I have a feeling that starcom runs in separate small instances and sometimes one of them gets a bit "stuck". So the steps are in order to attempt to connect to another instance that is not stuck. But I am just doing some wild guessing here, totally not sure if it will work

[tepid kiln]

Someone has problem with the market? I can't cancel an order, no phantom pop-up, but I can buy O_o

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, I am assuming that is how it works, but it will be interesting to verify it after today reset

[waxen raven]

does it reset on hour?

like in 7 minutes?

[patent iris]

@hazy hedge Based might need a kick

[hazy hedge]

ty ser

[thorny lagoon]

uh, no, check epoch timer on discord or in the base - it is 2 horus

[topaz pine]

nightly ddos before epoch end

[west slate]

I think he is asking how often starcom gets a reset

[topaz pine]

i mean team updates before epoch end

[waxen raven]

no i meant does starcomm restart every hour?

[topaz pine]

its reset every hour

sometimes it doesnt work

and they have to reset the resetter

[west slate]

its always worst right before epoch end

[topaz pine]

adn then the resetter of the resetter of the resetter

[waxen raven]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-gif-26450196

[tepid kiln]

I can't cancel a market order...

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[thorny lagoon]

aha, I see, didn't know team automated it

[faint prairie]

starcomm kick pls

[hazy hedge]

Pinged the team 🙏

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/reset-button-press-push-gif-8046442

[gloomy elbow]

Fucking hell man this game would try the patience of a saint when is this shitecom shit going to be sorted out?

[desert beacon]

The trick is 5shot espressos, and tying a bell to your hair in case you fall asleep

Also try not to punch a hole in your monitor. It might help you feel better, but it only makes it worse.

[whole moon]

Houston /StarCom have a problemNo More

[celest lichen]

Labs. and still down

[warm tulip]

I’m sorry to inform you sir that Labs has been down since mid-April

The game converted to Starbased

Based.staratlas.com

[desert beacon]

Oof hope he hasn’t been trying to mine

[warm tulip]

I don’t know - trying to find out

Is labs still even up?

[desert beacon]

Yea

Just can’t do anything economic

[gaunt zealot]

i checked earlier i see some ships flying around still

[desert beacon]

I never closed redundant accounts since the start of labs so I’ve got something like 6k of them 😬

Waiting for auto sign to macro them closed

[celest lichen]

No friend. I still have a ship there taking out my resource.

was playing yesterday

[desert beacon]

You know how to check the rpc?

[celest lichen]

I know this is the problem. on console

[desert beacon]

Ah, yea on other thing that’s within your control is vpn. Sometimes that helps but rn I think it’s starcom

[celest lichen]

So maybe a should try with VPN on ?

[desert beacon]

Yea try a few location / rpc combinations

If that’s doesn’t work then you just gotta wait for starcom

[gloomy elbow]

Im imagining you now sitting in front of an entire wall of monitors each with a big hole in the middle...

[celest lichen]

Ok. Thanks brow

[desert beacon]

Rn I’m using South Korea + custom rpc and it’s barely working

[desert beacon]

If I was compulsive it would be a reality no doubt

[waxen raven]

@uneven umbra May I have a key please?

[uneven umbra]

M9767-G5PDZ-3NE2J-K73FH

[waxen raven]

Thanks @uneven umbra

[barren magnet]

Then I get a message to reset the resetter, and I talk to the guy who built the resetter and get him to reset the resetter.

[modest vault]

fucking busted

I knew u didn't re-supply ever

@ everyone

u can't re-supply with redundant accounts 😂

[barren magnet]

[modest vault]

@topaz pine

[desert beacon]

great

[modest vault]

https://tenor.com/view/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him-gif-12313683

[barren magnet]

You guys

[barren magnet]

We talking labs or starbased?

[modest vault]

based

[barren magnet]

Is HE takling about labs or starbased?

[modest vault]

based for sure

0 reason to have that many in labs

lol

[desert beacon]

rational thought not allowed

[modest vault]

he moves 30k fleet to each node every time it upgrades

[barren magnet]

Just saying... it says labs...

[modest vault]

that's 600 per trip

[barren magnet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[modest vault]

no backpedaling now

it's so over

the FBI is coming

[barren magnet]

😅

it's not even back peddaling... im just saying it like it reads.

[topaz pine]

who says "labs". lmao. he clearly meant starbased

[desert beacon]

i have 0 redundant account in based. the ratio police can do their worst

[modest vault]

0 chance that's true

u get 600 per trip

😂

[topaz pine]

but also "labs" ended .so why would he say it like that

[modest vault]

6k

10 trips

checks out

[topaz pine]

I mean it tracks

why is anyone suprised

[barren magnet]

I mean I say based and don't say labs anymore, esp in technical docs internally. its clearly two different things. And there's still a lot of fleets in labs as of yesterday when I was looking at it.

[modest vault]

MRZ5
MRZ4
MUD-2
MUD-4
UST-2
UST-4
MRZ-21
ONI-2 or wte it was

UST CSS

MUD CSS

[topaz pine]

yeah but when you say "since labs start..." you probably mean labs + starbased.

[barren magnet]

perhaps

[topaz pine]

because that implies there isnt an end yet

dont know why we are even defending it we know he doesnt contribute

data doesnt lie

regardless of symantics

[modest vault]

I was mostly memeing

but half serious meme

[topaz pine]

you pinged me

im here

[modest vault]

I'm over the whole thing anyway

😂

[barren magnet]

I'm just memeing with yawn

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-24341837

[modest vault]

I wouldn't have pinged u if u didn't post recently 😂

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/little-nightmares-leech-animation-gif-21066600

[modest vault]

so bodhi made poor mandalorian clear all his redundant accounts to re-supply

[barren magnet]

ewwww

[topaz pine]

Why is xcode starting arguments anyways.

[modest vault]

damn

[desert beacon]

i close them as they show up. you cant play based with redundant accounts lol, that what makes it take so long to move

[barren magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[modest vault]

did I claim in USTUR yet

[patent iris]

Perfect description of the situation.

[topaz pine]

sorry circling back here. thank you for all the resetting of the resetters. 🙇‍♂️

[modest vault]

we have resetting resetters?

we're so doomed

[barren magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/you-to-start-doing-more-eric-cartman-south-park-s15e14-the-poor-kid-gif-23109002

[barren magnet]

In this case I just watched the resetter do it's thing. I didn't have to call anyone.

[modest vault]

why havn't we made a resetter to reset the resetter that resets the resetter yet?

[barren magnet]

TBH

[modest vault]

https://tenor.com/view/turtles-all-the-way-down-gif-18021411

[barren magnet]

Monday. That's going on the board.

top priority

[modest vault]

can u post to stop the sell

[barren magnet]

stop the sell?

[modest vault]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-the-count-donald-trump-alec-baldwin-saturday-night-live-stop-counting-the-votes-gif-19311809

[topaz pine]

yaawn might be drunk

[modest vault]

I meant the selling of tokens

of course

is that a ban in general

[patent iris]

Is he friendlier or meaner when he's drunk?

[modest vault]

whiskey or beer

is the determinant there

[barren magnet]

Humm, the product manager says don't sell the product... probably wouldn't end well for me.

[desert beacon]

ive contributed over 20m food in the last few days lol

maybe your data doesnt ake into account prime wallet tx? idk

[patent iris]

[chilly tinsel]

how? you can't do so with redundant token accounts

[desert beacon]

i dont have redundnat accounts in based, i said labs lol

i didnt close redundant accounts since the start of labs.

so whats that like 6 months?

added up

you cant play based with redundant accounts

[topaz pine]

🤡
20M HOLY FOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. @warm tulip TIME TO WRITE A NEW ARTICLE!!!

[topaz pine]

easy. he just doesnt upkeep on those accounts

[warm tulip]

I choose not to respond

[patent iris]

Silence is a message

[chilly tinsel]

that doesn't really make sense either. how did you play labs with redundant accounts?

[topaz pine]

when he says "he contributed 20m food" he probably means he contributed by helping poor people in asia via axie scholarships who bought some food, bought an airbike, worked in a sweatshop, 10 years ago, and then spawned 5000 small players who now play star atlas in turns, and those 5000 players contributed 20m food.

[desert beacon]

did having redundant account in labs make a difference?

i wouldnt know i never closed them lol

[chilly tinsel]

yeah, you couldn't use r4 properly, same as in based

[desert beacon]

i used it just fine, im sure theres some r4 locked up in those accounts, but it didnt stop me from playing. ill close them once they enable autoaprove.

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/lies-you-sit-throne-of-lies-liars-gif-16949216

[topaz pine]

🤡

[desert beacon]

i checked its close to 2k not 6k. i hadnt checked in a month forgot the exact number

[chilly tinsel]

k i'll go back to being a lurker

[chilly tinsel]

appreciate the responses as always ser. i doubt they'll do anythign more for labs, but i would think you want to close those anyway. 2k is like what, 40 SOL in token accounts locked up? I'm guessing that it's 0.02 SOL per token account. could be wrong tho

[limber steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[desert beacon]

i asked them about it a few weeks ago when they would enable the prime wallet in labs for it. they said a solution will come with the player profile system so im waitng for that

[desert beacon]

i have no idea what its worth, i just know im not going to sit there and manually close them regardless

no way jose

[topaz pine]

why not? you do infinitely more clicks faction hoping

seems like a weird line to draw in the sand

[desert beacon]

devs already confirmed labs will be included in the global player profile system. Will probably be able to trade on the market too using the prime wallet. No need to break my ledger when I can just wait for that

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/alright-jennifer-lawrence-thumbs-up-okay-sure-gif-4486668

https://tenor.com/view/gold-star-succession-gif-27712928

[mental relic]

👋

[uneven umbra]

Gngn

[uneven umbra]

Brujoooo

[mental relic]

Hi, how are you my bro 🙂

[patent iris]

Que pasa Brujo?

[mental relic]

I'm with my powerful ally ChatGPT 👋

@patent iris hey nice to see you 👋

[uneven umbra]

Doing great fam and you?

[uneven umbra]

[mental relic]

Having some bread with avocado and drinking a coffee

@uneven umbra Virtuwul and I talked a bit about the game's vision regarding races, but everything's fine, very cordial chat

[uneven umbra]

Oooo nice

Snack time?

[mental relic]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-oh-yes-yes-o-yeah-yes-no-yes-go-on-yea-yes-gif-14382673246413447193

[patent iris]

Why the SUS?

Explain yourself sir

[uneven umbra]

I just keep watch

Any message is sus until proven otherwise

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-eyes-on-gif-18638205

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-so-hostile-dikahn-wright-the-oval-feisty-one-so-aggressive-gif-22492381

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/a-great-new-rule-in-general-saturday-night-live-weekend-update-new-policy-a-great-rule-gif-20523270

[valid yoke]

This year's garlic bunch 🙂

[split solar]

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[cobalt citrus]

anyone interested to buy a C9?

[valid yoke]

Sure, I got $100 😜

Cash in hand LOL

[cobalt citrus]

free for you :))

[valid yoke]

Ha I wish lol

If wishes were fishes we'd all have a fry 🙂

[cobalt citrus]

xD

[late condor]

hello

I exist

pay me

[valid yoke]

You gonna sell me a C9 for $100??

Otherwise this convo is over

[late condor]

sure I just need you to send first

[valid yoke]

😜

[late condor]

and I also want some of that garlic

[valid yoke]

Those garlics are so huuuuge

I have 3 that are as big as my closed fist

👊

[late condor]

🧄

[lean raven]

do those look like hairy ball... or is it just me?

[valid yoke]

Absolutely, but while they are curing all roots and foliage stay..... Gotta dry it out right so I can continue regrowing my own personal garlic line 🙂

[late condor]

ideally, one should eat garlic fresh and unheated.

[valid yoke]

I intend to regrow some so I have to cure it. But fresh is good too

[lime lichen]

If u want heartburn

[lean raven]

that's awesome mate. I do enjoy a bit of gardening myself

[split solar]

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Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[thorny lagoon]

Hm, seems like it is not updating even on the next epoch. U cannot tell for sure if it is only visual in the interface or if it is also happening on-chain:
https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1246285611392962652

[west slate]

hmm, could be something they need to do manualy then

ie like the manual adjustments for crafting tax

[thorny lagoon]

might be the case, I am not sure if the other factions got anything upgraded after the change to confirm

[west slate]

it would still likely be for the epoch after the adjustment as well

[west slate]

yeah I don't think mud had any starbase hit t2 since then

[empty solstice]

Guys Did crew drop?

[west slate]

that has another month before its late

[empty solstice]

Ok gotcha

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

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[thick loom]

Old labs down? Looks since couple of hours ago

Thanks devs! ♥️

[dusk sail]

Guys.... how can I get a Redeem Code?

[cold ledge]

MXRKL-KVGAU-L7C9A-8ZSL4

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[dusk sail]

Thanks, mate....🔥

[rapid fulcrum]

GM ☀️

[cold ledge]

happy weekend.

[grave sigil]

GM people ☀️

have a good weekend

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[remote meteor]

I've never seen a game this much complicated lol

how do I even begin to playing the game

[glass surge]

yeah it's confusing at the start

you will figure it out as time goes by

[remote meteor]

do I need to download the game?

[cold ledge]

watch some vids

1 sec

[cold ledge]

the ue5 version yes in the epic games launcher

i can get you a key

[remote meteor]

whats the difference bet the one in epic store and this one?

[cold ledge]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5pAvoGF9O34&si=S4ZNdPp2nOtUeVEU

he has a full series

[remote meteor]

ok will take a look

[cold ledge]

its all the same, we have a browser game with an economic fully on chain, and we got ue5 you use the same assets in both

no economy in ue5 yet

but you can test a few things out

[glass surge]

i will also take a look cause i havent seen any of the updates for months

[cold ledge]

M2JXF-ZTPWY-MNBR9-WRDRK redeem this key in the epic games launcher

[remote meteor]

ok thx mate

[tired sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/office-server-power-lady-unplug-gif-8220789

starcom ded

[opal rain]

🚨🚨 GM. Daily Report. Starbased datas are in the second page.👉#🐤┃community-tweets message

[tepid kiln]

gm friends

[elfin tundra]

starcom gone sleeping

[plain prairie]

Starcomm

[urban crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/wen-creepz-wenfinity-wenwenwen-creepz-wen-gif-25738654

wen a stable version?

[past knoll]

5-8years😉

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/im-outta-here-the-simpsons-homer-simpsons-gif-17885092

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[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/uefa-champions-league-opening-football-gif-5552229

[elfin tundra]

American football?

https://tenor.com/view/dortmund-crowd-cheer-gif-5332506

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/iosoccer-lazo-tackle-gif-25862100

[warm tulip]

GM VB

@cold ledge

[cold ledge]

gm krigs

whats for lunch?

no cafeteria for mods

only water and bread

send mre

[warm tulip]

airpackage inbound

Lets wee, scalloped potatoes, ground turkey stir fry, broccoli

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-animated-series-survive-survival-comissioner-gordon-gif-17428741

[nimble belfry]

where do you get Titanium ore from ?

[warm tulip]

MRZ-8 for MUD

[nimble belfry]

@warm tulip thanks

[digital osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/idoxzi-luka-modric-toni-kroos-casemiro-real-madrid-gif-25850864

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/eleven-elevensports-forthefans-celebration-der-klassiker-gif-19167110

[outer stump]

🤣 @royal shard

How is everyone this morning?

[cold ledge]

all good here, how you doing?

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[outer stump]

Awesome Friend! The Metaverse is our Playground!

[cold ledge]

good to hear, any weekend plans?

[outer stump]

Although, What's up with Hellomoon? Did it fall out of the sky?

[cold ledge]

i wish i knew 🙂

[outer stump]

I was gonna post a screenshot however. ot seems that youi already know about it.

[cold ledge]

no go on

issues in based?

have not played much today

[outer stump]

It scrolls through like every 2 seconds then stops, then starts over again,

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-checked-meme-unsc-halo-real-patriot-gif-16275685552391887287

[cold ledge]

will relay, but probably slow response since its weekend

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/christopher-lloyd-1point21gigawatts-back-to-the-future-doc-gif-9470027

[outer stump]

It has been going on since sometime Thursday.

[whole helm]

holly gigawatts

[cold ledge]

im on quicknode

it seems

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/server-off-off-radioactive-rp-gif-21327577

[outer stump]

It seems to resolve itself if I turn on Priority Fees. Does anyone know how to keep them on if the site is refreshed? Everytime I refresh the site they get turned off.

[cold ledge]

also after you cleared the cache?

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/swenky-girl-girl-friend-two-girls-gif-25678382

[topaz pine]

Gm gm touching grass!

[outer stump]

Awesome!

[lyric nimbus]

SA players?

😂

[pseudo crane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9O45htPLEQ

[gaunt zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/safuu-degens-safuu-army-pump-army-gif-25593529

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-mushroom-jack-black-champis-eat-mushroom-psychedelic-mushroom-manger-champignons-gif-20153552

gm

[outer stump]

LOL Them are the wrong mushrooms! 🤣

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[supple wolf]

So I'm having trouble finding any info pertaining to crafting ships in SAGE Starbased, and all info I'm finding is from 8-12months ago. Am I looking in the wrong places?

[devout river]

Good morning. How do I get an access key to play. Thanks in advance

[gaunt zealot]

Use eves eye

https://atlas.eveeye.com/?m=Galia Expanse&o=nodeout_blk,node_r,sub_r,tag_none,etag_none,sector_none,dark

[supple wolf]

Sweet thank you

[topaz pine]

Nope. Normies

[errant quiver]

Not sure, who to ping, maybe @cold ledge . It seems that the Hydrogen account for asteroids is empty, not possible to finish mining. Should be this account: https://solscan.io/account/3G2eKnZ4RCEsDSbNWLtXamqs2tgmF2BzAD4CCc4cYTwJ

[cold ledge]

really will ask

[faint prairie]

server gg?

[peak mountain]

No wonder I could not stop mining

[warm tulip]

rip 2 of my fleets

[supple wolf]

There any more indepth info about this, like a guide or something breaking it down?

[woven condor]

This is speculative on future features yet to be implemented

What do you want to know ?

[supple wolf]

I trying to figure out if I can craft ships in SAGE starbased currently

[woven condor]

You can craft Calico Maxhog and Fimbul Mamba EX in limited quantities

[nimble belfry]

when you craft ship lets say , dose you get it together with crew ?

[supple wolf]

Sweet. Hey something is a whole lot better than nothing.
Any link or guide or finger pointing where to look

[woven condor]

For now yes but after they airdrop crews you will only get the ship

[woven condor]

!guides

[sour hearth]

Here are some great community created guides that can help you get started with Star Atlas!

• https://intergalacticherald.com/star-atlas-guide/
• https://aephia.com/star-atlas-guides/
• https://galiacrafters.medium.com/star-atlas-101-i-have-20-what-can-i-do-3e9c72e421d2
• https://hologramnews.com/star-atlas-guides/

[supple wolf]

Sweet tyvm!

[faint prairie]

starcomm kick guys

[lyric nimbus]

[supple wolf]

Bro...

So I had no clue when I first discovered star atlas, specifically SAGE, stumbled my way through without guides or researching, liked it but was like eh, I'm to poor to play this game (like most others), sold my couple ships and all r4 & r9, and moved on. Then got bored and came back, rebought everything in again, played a bit then it got really wonky trying to play in phantom on mobile, sold everything again. Kept hearing of the AAA Star Atlas, wondering wtf is this, bro..I only just now read the like 30pg WP, just learned about the Epic Games version, and now I'm wondering whats the cheapest route shipwise (2 maybe 3 XXS) and if its possible to craft the Maxhog or Mamba EX and not spend an arm and a leg to get a fleet going to sustain my playing and be able to progress and grow simultaneously

😅

What other game do you sell and buy back into like 3 or 4 times 😅🤣

[woven condor]

With 3 XXS you will never craft a mamba ex before they run out of supply

[supple wolf]

That's what I was afraid of

[woven condor]

It's a 500$+ ship, three XXS is like 15$ 😛

[supple wolf]

See that's why initially I was hoping for like 1 or 2 ships per class to be craftable for this purpose

Dang

Ya know, truly grow and build up into something

Guess I gotta buy into it like everywhere else lol

[woven condor]

Honestly for a really small player in the current state of the game forget about crafting ships or even participating in the upgrades of stations to earn ATLAS. Between all the fees and the necessary logistics it's impossible.
Your best bet is to join a guild and setup a deal with someone to buy raw materials from you, easiest is hydrogen you can just mine it 24/7 at the central space station without traveling and sell that.
Can also go back to faction fleet and earn that way.

If you are looking for a guild in ONI Faction check us out at ROME #archived-guild-ads we can help you get started

You need not only ships and ressources to mine but you also need transport ships and crew members to craft. And you need to have the good ratio of miners/transporters/crafters of you want to run a profitable operation building components and upgrading stations.

[analog aspen]

El canal en español a desaparecido ?

[woven condor]

#🌎┃languages

[supple wolf]

So in all honesty, ballpark range estimate?

[analog aspen]

Ya solucionado gracias

[supple wolf]

That bad? Lmao dang.
And now to Rome I journey lol

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[mortal lark]

It's inspiring to hear that something kept drawing you back to the game. Hopefully whatever it was can keep you playing it for years to come 🙂

[gaunt zealot]

I’d recommend looking into the SLY’ assistant it’s a automation tool, it’s not been audited by the team but the majority of people here use it

Faction fleet is depreciated and isnt worth keeping ships there imo, better off just mining hydro

[supple wolf]

Sustainability at decent intro price is where it keeps losing me. I just want to drop like $50-$100 initially, then with that build up, you know, mine, scan, trade, then reinvest slowly build then sell fleet buy bigger class ship, repeat. But that doesn't look possible

[mortal lark]

Well, i'd be lying if I said the entry price is low. Currently the entry barrier is one of the main issues the team is working to solve. Mostly due to transaction fees. I hope they can figure it out soon.

[west slate]

the entry price is low if your looking at min needed to play, entry price is quite high if your looking for profit

or just break even

hopefully that changes with r2.2/companion app

also just the split of crew and possibly components would make that even better with more stuff to do added to starbased

[supple wolf]

Imo, just open up 1 or 2 ships per class for crafting instead of just the Maxhog and Mamba ex. That way a fleet of like 2 or 3 xxs can make 5 more xxs then the fleet can get enough r9 to craft a xs, have burn function for the other ships for Atlas/still trabeable if decide not to burn or use with xs, then repeat and grow. You will outgrow the fee barrier and stimulate economy, growth, and starbase upgrade/expansion all with one crafting implementation

[west slate]

also now that no food is needed to craft smaller players can do that to earn

[mortal lark]

while i agree with you, there isn't much to "play" right now per se, but I hear you.

[supple wolf]

I just want to not have to pay out of pocket everytime to play, I'm looming for account/gameplay sustainability compared to entry proce that makes that achievable

[mortal lark]

One thing to consider, is that these craftable ships are not inflating the ship economy, so they can't just make any ship craftable, the amounts of these ships were pre-determined years ago, and will remain this way until otherwise needed.

[west slate]

that takes a several hundered investment right now min

[supple wolf]

That's what I was afraid of, I love that game and where it's headed but I'm looking more at a $100-$250 entry

[west slate]

the craftable ships are however putting buy pressure on stuff that should help with the issue of lack of profits for smaller players

[west slate]

yeah, I mean crafting now is something that can likely be done profitably with that just going to be very boring early on

[supple wolf]

Then I come to same problem. The price jump between classes 🥵

[west slate]

as crafting is just about raw volume with the amount of crew only needed for speed

like if you don't mind playing like 1 time a week for like 2-3 transactions

[supple wolf]

And still no combat implemented yet right?

[west slate]

yeah combat is later

[supple wolf]

See I want to be on and actively playing. Ugh why I have to be so picky lmao

[west slate]

that would be 500 entry just to mine hydro

now to be honest thats not a lot of money considering you will be seeing actual profits

but its high entry for a game

[weary kelp]

Hey does anyone know if you can open the presale crew packs. Im thinking about grabbing some off the marketplace.

[supple wolf]

Hmmm then that gets into fleet composition/r4 & ship $, 40 xxs, or 25 xs, etc. Have to check all the stats on Nancy when I get home from work

[west slate]

no just wait for packs, the sale was only 10% off otherwise no benifit

[supple wolf]

Noticeable actual profits like, "justify to the wife it's okay I spent this much on a game, it's earning some, so I didn't completely throw the money away on a game it's paying us some" or "I did it because it was fun and I can play it for a while with the $500 but we're never seeing that money back"? Lmao

[west slate]

profits to the point where in a month you could sell out and have 500 again

if you wait longer it can add up

[supple wolf]

Cuz she supports crypto and web3 but she also knows if your to poor it'll just keep draining you lol so I gotta swing her

Okay bet that's a win then 😁

[west slate]

the amounts are estimates but I did enough of the math already so it should be close enough

[warm tulip]

Eventually small ships will be craftable. In earlier versions, they made Airbikes craftable for a limited time. But now is not that time

[warm tulip]

You cannot open them yet and the ones that were listed by the team sold out. Anything on the MP currently is a resale

[west slate]

depending on exactly whats contained in the airdrop for crew there could be a lot of smaller stuff craft able within the next few months

[lost fiber]

Really? What ships and play strategy are you considering for this calculation? If you bought a $500 ship(s) and sold in a month you’re going to have to sell at a 20-30% loss. That means you’d have to make $150/month. Unless missing something that’s not possible.

[supple wolf]

I'm hoping so, I'm going to keep limping along lol debating on how to buy back in again atm before payday, how viable is food running for lp points for atlas compared to scanning versus mining/crafting (using say a 3 xxs fleet)?

[west slate]

umm how would it be a 20-30% loss

its 6% loss from the market on top of transactions

the rest is depending on what happens with the crew drops

you should be able to make that diffrence back rather fast

[lost fiber]

Just based on the different between the buy sell price of ships.

[supple wolf]

In the 3 month span I've sold and bought in 3 times always with either orig ruchi or x4 and the price has maybe fluctuated $1-$2 up or down throughout the 3 months still within $2 of original price when I first discovered

[west slate]

umm thats only if your in a rush you know that right

you should be buying ships for the sell price and selling for the buy price or are you just in a rush all the time

[supple wolf]

As I was every time. I'm waaay to much of an impatient degen lmao

[lost fiber]

Yeah that makes sense. But $30 a month with a $500 fleet? I have about $1500 in ships. In Sage before the SDU change I was getting $10-20/day. Now it’s more like $1-2 dollars/day

[west slate]

the fact of the mater is in a month or 2 you should be close enough to your entry point

assuming a full sell out

[mortal lark]

you could potentially be making $6-7 / day with $1500, if done correctly.

[west slate]

note that only works if you buy enoguh ships to outperform the tx fees

[lost fiber]

Really? SDU scanning?

[mortal lark]

nope, SDU scanning is probably the worst activity you could be doing in the game currently. In terms of APR.

[supple wolf]

In which case which is better, fleet of 10 xxs or 2 xs or 1 s? Per (profitability/txn fees)

[mortal lark]

I was also doing SDU scanning in sage, and in the early days of based. I quickly pivoted as it is pretty bad atm.

[west slate]

for mining hydro you want to try to have a cargo capacity of 20k+

ie one large fleet

not a bunch of small fleets and don't do sdu scanning

[supple wolf]

I mean like (1 fleet of 20 xxs) ships vs (1 fleet of 2 xs) ships vs (1 fleet of 1 s ship)

[west slate]

honestly the actual comp does not matter as the primary drain is on tx fees

[supple wolf]

But you get more cargo dependant on composition

[west slate]

yeah

but that depends on the actual ships you use not the size

[mortal lark]

I would recommend taking a look at this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit?pli=1#gid=205337066

storage capacity adds up in your fleet, so can look at this spreadsheet, and determine best fleet comp

[west slate]

ie your looking to max cargo per $ spent

honestly starting out on a budget even mining ships are not exactly that great

[mortal lark]

personally, if you can afford in IMP Tip, that is the best starter ship for mining, as it uses no ammunition, but there is an argument that small fighters like the Tufa Feist are a decent alternative, as you can scale with them, and they are the same class (size) ship for about 1/3 the price.

[west slate]

not exactly you can get more cargo for less, the actual r4 costs are negligable compared to tx fees for smaller players

[mortal lark]

I guess it makes sense that the IMP Tips efficiency is also its curse for smaller players ? that kinda makes sense. cuz they mine faster, meaning more TX

[west slate]

its not about the amount of tx per day, the issue is the tx costs are way over the actual r4

untill you get post 20k cargo

[lost fiber]

Damn. Mind sharing the profitable methods?

[west slate]

meaning its better to start by maxing out cargo as the returns are good even for an airbike if you remove tx fees

[mortal lark]

I mean, I share them all the time, but it also kinda depends on your budget

[west slate]

once you have an established account specialized ships start to make a diffrence

or if you have 10k or so to spend on it

[supple wolf]

What about vsus solos

[west slate]

airbikes are the least efficent ship in the game

ie why its the metric

so any ship would profit mining hydro if you remove transaction fees

meaning the actual issue becomes cargo more then anything else as you need to have enough cargo capacity to get past the transaction fee drain

[arctic saffron]

I stopped logging in to sage labs about 2 months ago, now I'm looking and I see that the site has changed, where do I transfer my ships? I can't find it on the based . staratlas

[supple wolf]

So I should just go degen my $40 until I turn into more before assembling a fleet again, is what I'm hearing lol

[west slate]

yeah, flipping for mass profits is mostly done here

at least untill the companion app is out or racing

ie companion app would let you drop a small amount, grind mostly off chain and sell a leveled up crew member

racing will let you actually earn with only 1 xxs ship

[brazen leaf]

Good evening everybody! Just found this little gem and I always get super excited about space exploration games so wooo

[mortal lark]

what are you currently doing ?

[warm tulip]

Has anyone done the math on what a single crew profitability is?

[mortal lark]

this probably varies so much, lol, but is directly tied to ones APR

[supple wolf]

I can be the experiment lmao

[mortal lark]

I mean, unless you are selling raw materials, crew are your bottleneck. the higher you go up the supply chain, the more valuable your crew are, I would say. Hard to calculate a profitability on crew, as there are so many variables.

[west slate]

I mean a single crew member if your patent can earn a lot as its mostly about tx cost

[lost fiber]

Probably a horrible setup but:

IMP TIP
Mining hydrogen at MRZ-20

Pearce X5 mining Cooper at MRZ-19

Vzus ambwe mining biomass at MRZ-18

Pearce F4+Lowbie transporting food
MRZ-19>MRZ-20

1xl owbie transporting food from MRZ-18>MRZ-19

I have two fleets scanning SDUs and the rest are crafting food, ammo, fuel

[west slate]

if your doing a closed loop and are getting sol via other methods and only doing lp you should be okish

you would do a lot better if all the mining was in 1 fleet

[valid yoke]

Mmmm that's a tough build to be profitable with

[gloomy elbow]

Whatever you do dont join ONI its an entirely gay faction and they have certain initiation rituals...

[mortal lark]

It's kinda sad, but that F4 is kinda dead weight (potentially even a liability), might be better off using the F4 for mining instead of transport, as that thing drinks fuel.

just don't do SDU scanning, not worth it atm, IMHO.

[valid yoke]

That's funny I've never noticed an issue as I always just jam it with my greenader 😛

[mortal lark]

transport or freight for hauling is ideal, but the worst ship type for transporting is a fighter, as they guzzle fuel, generally speaking.

[supple wolf]

Well too late, and this'll be my fourth time coming back to play so four time with them rituals 🫠🤪

[mortal lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit?pli=1#gid=205337066 check out this spreadsheet, and check the fuel consumption of the different ships in your fleet, and try to only use the ones that are most economical on fuel for transporting.

[split solar]

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[mortal lark]

Fighters are better served as miners currently, although ideally a miner ship is just better overall, as it uses no ammo

[brazen leaf]

Any chance someone could hit me up with a gamecode? O.O

[valid yoke]

To be honest I feel like you would be more profitible if you just ground and sold hydrogen or crafted it in to fuel and just bought the other resources you needed

[west slate]

yeah park that in the css and just grind hydro

[valid yoke]

It's a boring ass strategy

But it works

[supple wolf]

So then fighters it's is cuz all the miners are out of price range

[warm tulip]

Well I would ask yourself what it is you want to do in game

Dont think just short term, but long term as well

[valid yoke]

Transports/Freight ships are good too. They use similar ammo/food/fuel to fighters and have more inventory

[west slate]

the issue for him is budget

[valid yoke]

And you can buy maxhogs for around $40 each

[west slate]

ie he needs to hit profit on min budget

[warm tulip]

right, but I would ape into a fighter just cause but I get it

[valid yoke]

Or you can do lowbies for like $10 less

[warm tulip]

if you can save for a fighter, you can probably save for a miner

[west slate]

ie the most profitable "active" thing to do is mine hydro at the css when trying to minimize the entry cost

[mortal lark]

with your setup, I would try to operate abit closer to CSS, you might find more joy this way. Personally, I wouldn't try to be self sufficient with this setup, being able to provide 1 or 2 of the R4s would be good enough for me, the rest I would just buy from marketplace (being closer to the CSS facilitates this playstyle). Then try to use your fighters more as miners (ideally about 60% of your fleet composition should be miners anyway), then about 30% should be crafters, and 10% should be haulers (can use transport or freight ships for this), ideally using warp (warp scales with bigger ships, so if you are using smaller ships for transporting, then maybe sub-warping might still be better). You should use that ship spreadsheet to kind of figure those things out.

[warm tulip]

Claimstakes used to be real good, now Claimstake meta is over lol

[warm tulip]

least complex but profitable \

[valid yoke]

Ya what's up with that?? Did they drop the output or something?

[viscid atlas]

I haven't been able to dock my fleet for a day. I get a transaction error. I already tried VPN and another browser and another PC. Does anyone feel the same?

[warm tulip]

no output is the same...problem is that you can make R4 cheaper and faster in game. So everyone is doing it and providing more supply

thus price is down for R4

Im sure demand on the MP fell of as well as players became even more self sufficient and the player base dropped out

[west slate]

honestly I am making my r4 vs bringing it in from my stakes

[supple wolf]

Long term I want to "finished game longterm" I want to be self sustaining, shipbuilding, fleet amassing, pirate conquering other sectors after coming from the bottom with nothing basically in the metaverse

[warm tulip]

I only use my R4 from stakes to supply fleets mining hydro at the CSS

[valid yoke]

Marketplace has always taken patience to be truly profitible anyways

[west slate]

note when I run low on ammo at the css I will likely bring it in

[west slate]

I'm burning fuel faster then my stakes will replenish it regardless, everything else is meh, also food production for crafting the stakes are too slow

[warm tulip]

Best of luck on the road....its a long one. SA is designed so that players will be incentivized to specialize. Of course you will be able to do it all, but the progression system rewards emphasis in one or two ereas

[valid yoke]

I make all my resources anyways and just sell the claimstake output for easly sol fee coverage

1 day a week and I can make more than enough R4 to run for the week

[supple wolf]

Then crafting

[valid yoke]

Then play around with whatever or just grind

[west slate]

yep mostly what I am doing (other then the fact that my css outside of fuel is still working off my stockpile from prior game loops)

[valid yoke]

I keep like 12 mill of each R4 as a backup and then just sell everything else

I always shoot for the high side tho so I wait to get paid rather than push on the offer side

[west slate]

I dumped a lot of tool kits because they are mostly useless for me right now otherwise yeah I make sure I have a good baseline before I sell

[warm tulip]

If crafting is your true goal you can do several things:

1. Buy XXS ships now, the cheaper the better. These act as crew and you can craft items. however you'll be limited to the CSS crafting and somewhat reliant on other players to supply the CSS with food. Additionally youll have to buy the materials off the markert, craft and sell for higher to make a profit.

2. You can wait for crew packs. You'd likely see a 15-25% increase in the ammount of crew you receive for the same money because crew packs are $5 per crew. Execute the same strategy as 1). This however, will lock you into crew crafting at the CSS unless you buy some ships in the future

[west slate]

css is only 50% reduction in time at worst

[valid yoke]

Life at CSS is possible for small players now

[west slate]

so its one of the best places to craft now outside of the locations that will be kept up

[valid yoke]

Maybe he should craft himself some Maxhogs??

With all those ships it'd only take him maybe 5-6 days or so??

[warm tulip]

He could work his way up to that, but it would be neraly impossible to mine that and craft it with $40 in ships

[valid yoke]

Oh

[warm tulip]

youre talking 5 airbikes

[valid yoke]

I thought he was the other guy

I saw another guys fleet up there a lil ways that was "reasonably" sized

[west slate]

the other guy would need to buy dimond / titanium

[supple wolf]

This, this is goals, initially and currently

[west slate]

as those are the major time sink for maxhogs

[valid yoke]

You would need a decent ish fleet to do that tho

[warm tulip]

yes, if you do not want to spend more than $40 initially, then it will take time, but you can get there if you are patient

[supple wolf]

Such as?

[warm tulip]

spending money just accelerates the process

[supple wolf]

It's not that I don't want to, it's that it's all I can afford until payday next week lmao

[warm tulip]

He needs miners/transport/crafters to do all that

[west slate]

40 for just crafting can be done

[warm tulip]

well if you get a payday how much would you spend then?

[west slate]

to start making a profit

it would be like looking at the game a few times a week

as any real profit would need to still be done via volume

[supple wolf]

Like $100-$200

[warm tulip]

TBH, if you can squeeze $300 I would get the Small miner. Mine hydrogen at the css

[valid yoke]

This is just my crafters/haulers and this is nothing compared to most people. But let's say you had a fleet full of Maxhogs or Lowbies. You could do some good work with that. We tell all our players to try and get above 10,000 inventory on a fleet at the very least to be able to make decentish moves

[warm tulip]

sell that hydrogen for Atlas and upkeep

[west slate]

the tip is not enough cargo space to earn off of after tx fees

[warm tulip]

then just keep doing that until you can buy a maxhog for transport

[warm tulip]

even with SLY?

[valid yoke]

Tip is actually the best for the price point imo

[west slate]

base tx fees are still mostly out of range for it

[valid yoke]

Way better than anything that uses ammo anyways

[west slate]

and those are getting harder to maitain now

[warm tulip]

id be curious in the numbers though

[supple wolf]

If $UPT UpRock would take off then I'd have more to invest lmao, first pre TGE anything I've been able to get in

[warm tulip]

OR just buy a T1 or T2 claimstake

[west slate]

you would need 2-3 tips

[valid yoke]

They use less food and fuel per inventory slot by almost half or so

[warm tulip]

if youre patient, you can sell that R4 for a maxhog lol

[valid yoke]

And no ammo at all

[warm tulip]

Faction Claims will be around for a long time

[west slate]

base transaction is .000005 with a mining loop bing 6 transactions and sol costs about 170 right now so that adds up to about .0051 usd about 1.35 atlas, a full load from a single xxs ship is 249, the price of hydro is about .0003285 (lowest sell as of when I calculated this out) so that gives .08179 atlas per xxs ship so that takes 17 xxs ships just to cover the transaction costs before fuel / food /ammo is calculated in

[warm tulip]

TBH, if tx fees are the issue...then the best overhead reduction is Claimstakes...you make 1 TX every 2 -4 days

you just gotta have the patience

sell the R4, use that to compound ships or more claimstakes

TBH probably the best advice for small budget people right now

like if you only wanted to Spend 20-40 dollars on the game and never spend another real dollar again...thats probably the quickest onboarding

[lost fiber]

Thanks a lot for the advice!

[warm tulip]

once you save up enough to buy a fleet, you can then resell the claimstakes or keep them

[valid yoke]

Even just utilizing a claim stake or 2 to run a small fleet would let him play and still make cash on toolkits 😛

[warm tulip]

actually, this is kidna cool progression now that I think about it

[west slate]

yeah stakes are a good passive earner, only needs 1 tx every 2 days

[warm tulip]

Like youre a small time farmer dreaming of the stars

you inherit your parents claim stake after they died in the war

[valid yoke]

We tell all our players to get enough claims to keep their fleets running too 😛

[warm tulip]

your dirt poort

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/gelbe-wand-bvb-gif-20766133

[warm tulip]

and so revitalizing your parents claim stake, you set out to buy your first ship

[mortal lark]

No problem. just bear in mind that if you are sub-warping instead of warping, you might need abit more freight, but that will need to be callibrated accordingly. That spreadsheet I shared should help with setting up your fleet optimally.

[valid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002

How's it goin @cold ledge ??

[cold ledge]

good good

champions league final

[gloomy elbow]

Its obviously something your drawn to have you spoken to your missus about these impulses?

[valid yoke]

I feel like that story ark would require a free bottom tier ship to go with it

At least later on when claims are in game and not in FC

[west slate]

honestly we just need other game loops

ie I have no issue with actual production requiring decent investment to be profitable

but people should be able to play at break even or earn with less

[valid yoke]

We need real quests that the smaller players can do to earn their way in

[gloomy elbow]

Why did they stop the new crafting ships needing SDU's?

[west slate]

companion app/ r2.2

[valid yoke]

We also need NPC interactions like shopkeepers and other related things like that as well as things like NPC pirates too

[west slate]

because the starbases are enough of a drain on them

[valid yoke]

Because they raised the resource price due to starbases needing so many SDUs

[gloomy elbow]

Yeah but they were a good option for small players no?

[west slate]

not anymore

and again t2-t3 requires so many that its not even practical to upgrade them so adding another burn right now is overkill

adjusting down the req for t2+ bases would still be more then enogh burn

[warm tulip]

Because SBs now need SDUs, SDU global cap was removed, and SDUs were an artifical limiter on the economy

[supple wolf]

I'm itching to play now but I guess I'll wait until payday and see exactly how much I have then. What's the going price of claimstakes?

[supple wolf]

Dirt po. Cuz if we get hurt we're to poor to afford the OR 😅

[supple wolf]

💯🔥

[lost fiber]

What might you do with these available ships to be profitable?

[west slate]

mine hydro at the css or craft

like the fact that I have a few medium ships and a greenader + a tap and 2 tips is what lets me actually spread out a bit

[lost fiber]

Would your earlier estimate of $6-7/day be doable with the ships I have?

[west slate]

even then my ability to actualy exist in mrz is very low

it takes a lot to break away from the css

[lost fiber]

that’s depressing 🥺 because I KNOW you have more ships than me

[west slate]

its just reality

[warm tulip]

There are 5 levels of claimstakes. T1 were ike 20 dollars i believe, T2 were just north of 200 last time I checked

[west slate]

t1 going for around 30, t2 are over 200

[mortal lark]

maybe abit less, as that estimate I gave was like a perfectly run setup. it all depends on how efficiently you can run your operation, and unfortunately, if you are mining with non-miner ships, and transporting with non-freighter ships, it can be difficult to operate at max efficiency.

[west slate]

wow t3 are not sold out yet

[warm tulip]

t3s were going to sell out but then labs came online

and miner ships went instead

[west slate]

yep

[supple wolf]

But with a cs I have to have other buildings to claim and everything right?

[west slate]

nope

just shove it into the program and collect every other day

[warm tulip]

looking at your ships, I would use your tip to mine somewher ein the SRZ, preferable copper or iron. Use your lowbies for transport. Everything lse I would just hold at the CSS

[supple wolf]

Thought that's what Miner drill and the refinery and stuff was all paired with

[warm tulip]

or maybe sell some of those ships for a couple more tips. but only do so if you want to be a miner/crafter

[west slate]

those have 0 utility right now

[warm tulip]

no, you just need the claimstake right now

[supple wolf]

🤔

[warm tulip]

eventually youll need that stuff, but probably not for like 2-3 years at this rate lol

[west slate]

even then those are prefabs, we will be able to make them with raw mats when they are needed

[warm tulip]

Assuming best case scenario, claim stake utility in SAGE is like 2 yeares away

[west slate]

ie odds are those who bought early will have enogh raw floating around to build their stakes up

[warm tulip]

there will be an eventualy rotation back into stakes

because they will be needed to claim land not on the CSS

[west slate]

yeah but honestly I likely have more stakes then I have ships to use them properly with and I have like no stakes

[supple wolf]

Can I use a t1 cs to claim land not on css currently

[warm tulip]

no

that is also 2-4 years away if not longer

Claimstakes are the relatively safe option in this overall SA economy

[west slate]

the primary barrier for stakes is getting past the need to swap game ids

[warm tulip]

you could of course go POLIS, but that is even LESS active gameplay

[valid yoke]

POLIS so boring atm tho

[west slate]

however that also means that development on stakes is not going to happen till were closer to having every other game loop out

[warm tulip]

im sure theres planetary and module dev work that needs to be done as well

[warm tulip]

Claim Stakes utility is Season 4

[west slate]

yeah but the fact is having people burn 1 use prefabs on a game id that we will have to transfer out of is a no go

[warm tulip]

correct, wont be implementd until final game id

[west slate]

so the actual development of the necessary stuff is being pushed back regardless

[valid yoke]

What are we on now?? 3??

[warm tulip]

but the team hasnt said anything about needing a new game ID after combat

[west slate]

we are not even season 0 yet

[warm tulip]

the benefits of claimstakes to new players and their future

oh i cant read

We are on R2.1. waiting on 2,2

Then its Pre-release

then its Season 0

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8

[valid yoke]

Yeesh

Ways to go 😛

[warm tulip]

yes. optimistically, each season is supposed to be ~6 months long (quoting an old Danny estimate). realistically, each season might be closer to a year

[west slate]

once we hit season 0 things should pick up

[warm tulip]

which means POLIS DAO and POLISTICIAN in 8-10 years lmfao

"should"

[west slate]

the catch is getting to season 0 is like 2 years

[west slate]

the dao has higher priority at least for top layer because of emissions schedules

ie that needs to be somewhat set up by aug 2025

[warm tulip]

It should be, but I think the polistician career wont be realized tll later

[west slate]

yeah, the actual in game voting local, region faction will be a ways out

[warm tulip]

actually faction DAO is Season 5 or 6

[west slate]

yeah but that will be minimal functionality unless they are looking at a much more complex game loop for it later

but thats so far out that the entire thing will change at least twice by then

[warm tulip]

yeah probably

each faction will have its own token lol

[valid yoke]

Eww

[patent iris]

I think that's the biggest "flaw" in the roadmap

[west slate]

realistically they will need it

[warm tulip]

why so?

[west slate]

technical limitations are the reason

no getting around it

[patent iris]

Wen combat starts, there will be a lot less mining.

Claim stakes are supposed to be the primary raw resource drivers.

Claim stakes are supposed to add layers of defense.

[patent iris]

That's not what I've heard, but maybe you know something I don't.

[west slate]

they need to get past needing to chagne game ids

[warm tulip]

Combat will be centered around Starbases though.

initially

So having a CS thats supposed to go on a planet, thats ot supposed to defend the SB

[patent iris]

What I've heard is they've "figured that out" somehow

[warm tulip]

combat needs to evolve to specific planetary combat for claimstakes to actually be useful in a planetary defense manner

[west slate]

when was this

[warm tulip]

is that why SB upgrades will persist? Or you just reading between the lines on that one

[patent iris]

When they announce that SBs are going to be persistent.

[west slate]

nope

[patent iris]

Enlighten us

[west slate]

that is just them setting starbase inital levels to where they were in the prior game id

anything more is fr

I asked about this

[warm tulip]

Miners are supposed to be one portion of the primary raw resource drivers. yes claimstakes help too but I dont see them as solely the primary. Just another pathway

[patent iris]

Danny said they are going to be a minor part vs. claim stakes. High tier CS will outproduce miners by a long shot.

[valid yoke]

That's why I bought so many miners 😛

[west slate]

also claimstakes don't do anythign to help protect a starbase

and if the starbase falls all claimstakes in the system fall with it

[warm tulip]

when was this said lol

[west slate]

still that requires the actual full utility for them being out

[patent iris]

Did you read the manual?

You can set up defensive buildings.

Danny confirmed this.

[patent iris]

I'll dm you a link since it's FR

[warm tulip]

i mean you can link it here

[shut bramble]

NO DMS

[west slate]

ok how is a defensive building on a planet going to protect a space station thats not even orbiting that planet

[warm tulip]

if people dont have FR access itll just say no access

[shut bramble]

teehee

[warm tulip]

pew pew

[shut bramble]

PEW PEW

[warm tulip]

Beth - did you find healthcare yet?

[west slate]

claimstakes will have their own defenses, they can't help a starbase defend itself directly

note having claimstakes will help supply a starbase in the system etc but they can't do active defense of it

[supple wolf]

So are there ever any contests or giveaways with ships as prizes?

[warm tulip]

Used to be

not so much anymore

sometimes content creators will do giveaways

but even that kinda dried up

[supple wolf]

Aww 😮‍💨

[west slate]

odds are it will come back when there are more game loops

just we are in one of those in between stages right now

ie giving away even a small ship right now with the current fee structure to someone just starting out is not even worth it

[warm tulip]

yeah the main point of giveaways is to attract new users. but right now, there isnt much to do for new users to meaningfully participate in the game loops

you could always try out and test Surge or Showroom

but those are just pretty environments

[west slate]

also you can do that with just a key you don't even need a ship

the devs are happy to give out keys to people who get to the discord but honestly its pointless for anyone not showing real intrest

[supple wolf]

So in the end will SAGE and Star Altas tie together and meld together in the metavwrse?

[west slate]

sage is the economic backbone

also part of why there is a high entry right now

all production no consumption

[brazen leaf]

I'm very interested though D:

[west slate]

yes and your already on the discord ie you found us

[brazen leaf]

Yeah, just looking up what the best starter strategies are xd
And how I can actually get in game

[west slate]

read up a bit, we were just going over that

[brazen leaf]

A lot of that is still confusing to me though o.O

So if I saw it right I would need like 17 airbikes to offset the tx cost, and they're going for $7,80 each right now?

[west slate]

no they are going for 7, no reason to buy from the team

also there are more efficent ways to get that cargo capacity

[brazen leaf]

So that's $120 in airbikes just to offset my transaction cost? xD

[west slate]

if you wanted to buy xxs ships

[next sigil]

That and they need at least 1k to do anything meaningful ingame

[brazen leaf]

How or where can I find what the cargo capacity of each ship is?

[west slate]

#👽┃general message

look at that spreadsheet to plan out a good fleet

[split solar]

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[gloomy elbow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit?pli=1#gid=205337066

[warm tulip]

self refaerral cheaper than any OTC im seeing

[warm tulip]

if by meaningful you mean participate in LLP, then yes

[west slate]

hmm right self ref might be a cheaper way to get airbikes

still means your paying less then the 15 though

[brazen leaf]

So it would take 4364 cargo space to offset the txn costs if I calculated it right? Cause that amount of hydro is worth the amount it takes to transact

[warm tulip]

IMO ruchs slightly better

[supple wolf]

Read up there was a spreadsheet he shared with ship stats to better configure your fleet for optimal storage

[west slate]

true

[warm tulip]

just inherent manufacturer bonus

Ogrika > Fimbul

[west slate]

airbikes are the metric for min efficency analisys

as they are the most inefficient ship out there

ie I will do calculations for small players based on airbikes because can't do worse then that

[supple wolf]

Personally it's a hard choice between ruch and x4, half the time I just went with a 1 ruch/1 x4 2ship fleet

Like I love ruchs tbh

[west slate]

honestly for xxs ships numbers mean more

[thorny lagoon]

airbikes come with higher tier components because of their original price as far as I know, but ruch might have slightly better base stats. Airbikes seem better option than ruchs for Sage right now because they are the fastest on subwarp speed

[warm tulip]

in the current game, Ruch is slightly better, mostly because its a cheaper $/Crew

[warm tulip]

arent all ships coming with base tier components regardless of Originatino prices?

[west slate]

not exactly

[thorny lagoon]

https://medium.com/star-atlas/star-atlas-3rd-generation-ship-configuration-system-9c067d2e681

[warm tulip]

And isnt Ruch origination the same or higher thatn Airbike

@cold ledge

[west slate]

they will drop higher components for current holders

[thorny lagoon]

not sure how official and final this is, but seems that this is the latest info:

ruch is not on the list

[west slate]

once the airdrops happen then we will be on base tier compoinents and reprices on anything devs are still selling

yeah any ship purchased after the airdrop will have t0 components by default

[warm tulip]

ahh I c.

[thorny lagoon]

I consider airbikes and ruch currently the same price ( if you account for self referral, or buy from the bots that do the self referral ):

[warm tulip]

ut who knows how much a higher tier component will be worth in the long run

[warm tulip]

yes they are same price

[warm tulip]

i didnt see the ruch

[west slate]

eventually we will be making our componenets

so its not going to matter for very long outside of bigger ships that cost more to outfit

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/car-car-with-hydraulics-driving-gif-12474605

[thorny lagoon]

no clue, there were some temp stats in the previous version of showroom ( it had more components, the ones without the skins ) but I cannot rely on that being final too. You could have like a tier 2 subwarp drive from fimbul perform worse that tier 1 from rainbow in that version, but the stats could have been just placeholders.

[pine musk]

When is this available in the showroom 😆

[supple wolf]

Jetjet xs or xxs??

[patent iris]

Soon. This is the Mega Maxed Maxhog

[supple wolf]

Niruch on spreadsheet for component

[thorny lagoon]

it is old article, so no info on the ships released after that, but unless the ships has been release on higher price ( I think there was a different initial trench for Airbike that had much higher price ) then you look at the size of the component. If the size is bigger than ship than you get +1 on the component tier for that ship.

The airbikes and hero for example are exception from the rule, they get better tiers because of the initially higher price they were listed

so in theory ruch will get only t1 components

[thorny lagoon]

JetJet is xs

[stray marsh]

Opalcalypse

[west slate]

supposedly its based on vwap so airbikes are like 16 or so in that

[supple wolf]

Jet gets more/higher tier than airbike based on that chart

[thorny lagoon]

still waiting for the JetJetJet 😄

[west slate]

vwap on them is 20

jets never had a 15 sell trench

[supple wolf]

😮‍💨 I'm torn. Ik, ima do the coinbase quests and get a free $40-$80 then revisit this subject lmao

[thorny lagoon]

By the way, do we have any historic data on the trenches. I am interested in checking the data for Scuds and Niruch. Also do you know if team is going to release more ships from those types, currently they are a bit rare according to circulating supply

[west slate]

its all on chain so there are a few sites that have tracked it

club should have historic data as well as a few others

note vwap is based 100% off of primary sale values so that data is set in stone

[brazen leaf]

So having read up a bit more, stuff makes a bit more sense.
What activity do you guys recommend for a complete newbie starter?
Mining raw mats and selling those? Or should I look into crafting or scanning?

[west slate]

it might be better to start off crafting

as you can very easily make sure your not getting screwed by tx fees that way

then work into mining hydro

don't try to scan

[modest vault]

I'd honestly just go crafting + freight to start

mining nice too

but crafting + freight, u can freight in the goods to craft to upload to starbases

and it gives u ability to snipe the higher LPs w/ not a huge investment tbh

but there is heap of options

[thorny lagoon]

Depends on a few factors:

1. For mining raw mats - you will need some good ships, preferably miner class. Preferably you want to be able to fill a whole fleet for optimal mining
2. As Jith Blade mentioned - crafting is currently the lowest entry point as you can buy raw from the market and craft them on css and sell back. Being able to run longer jobs reduces the cost of transactions compared to mining non-stop significantly. Also you don't need automation for that so it is the least time consuming game stile right now.
3. Scanning - currently would not recommend for newbies, very high tax on the tx.

For the base upgrading - what @modest vault said bout the crafters and the freight

[versed wagon]

If I was new with zero knowledge of game…I’d go with mining raw material and selling till I got my feet wet

[modest vault]

Also generally the newest releases have been slightly higher performers fwiw

[west slate]

the catch is thats still rather high for some people to invest

ie these are sub 1k entry strats

[thorny lagoon]

It is good as long as you are investing enough to get your initial fleet for mining right. If you have like 200-300 to check out the game, best to start with the crafters.

[versed wagon]

Yeah true, I don’t know the budget

[brazen leaf]

Yeah I'm looking at an entry point of around 200

[supple wolf]

Earlier talks with me are over $50-$100 initial

And trying to find minimum entry for sustainable play

With other funding later of course

[versed wagon]

The word on the street is ship lending isn’t far off…borrowing other people’s ships could help you compound quicker. I’d take that 200 bucks and buy some xxs to craft and start to learn the game

[supple wolf]

Give or take, same

This'll be my 4th reentry into the game lol

[west slate]

yeah ship lending will be key because there are a lot of whales with more ships then they can realistically use and a lot of players that need ships to start out at lower entry points

[versed wagon]

It’s gunna help kickstart things if implemented well

[supple wolf]

Any timeline on (UE5) racing?

[versed wagon]

Wen polis PvP utility

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, with that budget - start with airbikes or ruch for crafting, and keep some atlas so you can have enough to buy raw mats for crafting recipes. You can calculate how much you can get using the eveeye crafting calculator: https://atlas.eveeye.com/crafting/

for example you can have 20 workers and start crafting electronics from raw materials on the market. Then when you get enough crafter you can sell them and buy new mats and so on until you get enough atlas to buy another airbike. Then you get additional worker.

Keep in mind that in order to reduce the cost for tx you can go like crafting 2 days hydrogen and carbon into hydrocarbon, one day crafting copper ore into copper, 4 days crafting the electronics

@brazen leaf check above too ^

with that strategy you are mostly focused on crafting and you will get familiar with movements on the mats on the market and the different recipes

[supple wolf]

Is it better to use the hot wallet and Vault auto atlas gas feature?

[west slate]

umm depends

honestly I would rather just use sol

[thorny lagoon]

Currently - this is mostly focused on users that have ledger. Also it does charge premium on tx - so unless you have some big fleets to justify the costs you are better off turning Atlas prime off

[supple wolf]

See I've wondered that because I could play for a while on 0.1 sol for gas but it seems if I use the equivalent in the atlas gas then I only get 2-5 txns

[carmine pelican]

Above all else, don't use Phantom wallet for SA (for smaller players especially), unless they have fixed over charging per tx. It's robbery imo

[west slate]

yeah solflare/backpack

also if you have prio fees off using the ledger directly has 0 prio fees

[tepid kiln]

Source?

[supple wolf]

Has anybody tried with coinbase wallet not that coinbase wallet is sol compatable?

[thorny lagoon]

current setup for low cost on tx is:

1. Using solflare/backpack ( phantom will sometimes add higher fees that are ridiculous in my opinion )
2. Using SLY Assistant automation too to control the priority fees ( mostly if you are mining scanning, you can controll the crafting from there too, but you don't need it for the fees )
3. Turning off the Atlas prime feature ( if you are using it without vault it will partially refund you the rent accounts which is causing the cost to go higher than expected )

[thorny lagoon]

I think there is support for coinbase wallet for the DAO, but for playing Sage, best practice is to have a separate Solana wallet and use Solflare or Backpack for the interface ( if you are not using ledger )

[carmine pelican]

My wallet. Hahaha. Facts.

Switching to Solflare alone, reduced my TX fees considerably, without changing play style.
I later went automated and it got even cheaper per tx.

[mortal lark]

this is just common knowledge, if you are using phantom, you are cutting into your profits, by alot.

[cold ledge]

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