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That's not accurate, maybe do some more research before saying such things.
Just read the Tokes news. When is the Polis vote on this? lol
Polis voting power is a real thing. Dam
youre assuming polis gives anyone actual voting power 
Who won the most games in Surge?
haha. no. Im assuming it doesnt.
I don't think POLIS voting is relevant here, as it is an ATMTA company decision, not a POLIS DAO decision
even if POLIS voting was a thing, that is
Irony.
Cant be decentralized when your central.... Right?
Lets vote on it.
I actually like the whole concept of what is coming. Dont like Tokes getting some advantage for assets. But oh well.
french speaking 
you have the right to be suspicous of this. And for some reason I think you might be correct because there are some shady stuffs going around.
yeah this obv isnt your actual account
agreed, I think if they just used tokes for some sort of cosmetic that doesn't affect the econ it would be just fine though
I will if you stop the hiding , already stated i dont think its an unreasonable take
I am just trying to provoke critical thought. I have faith the team is not out to do bad by us, as @tall lava said before, it can happen that the team either delivers information poorly, or even makes mistakes, and then rectifies them later. I have faith the team will do this, no doubt. I only bring up my concerns, because people should be thinking about this topic, and present these questions to MW when he addresses these concerns, which I am sure he will in due course.
So been away for a long time and played surge the other day. Are there live games currently at are similar to surge?
from the Bahamas 🤣
yeah, when I said that, I will admit, I was just talking shit.
Yes and that's correct. Untill team clarifies their actions, we have nothing else to be suspicious because it does feel weird to do such move. Also ignore those fan boys whose arguments are that "you have no fr access" 😄 what does it even mean, if you dont have millions then you are not allowed to be suspicous? Some people just trust swager with their fucking family's life. It's like ivnestors trusted Madoff, look what happend 😂
well, the sad part is that I have had FR access since the beginning, pretty much, so yeah
hahah even worse 😄
I am an OG, I get all the intel, lmfao
probably just a weird flex on their side then
actually it doesn't swag did a few things a while back to try to revive tokes, it was not taking and he does not want to be known as another crypto bro that leaves people holding the bag
ah, I try to not make it personal. it is what it is
There is alot of information on this topic, that I am sure alot of people on this discord have no clue about
But I remember doing all the background checks before jumping into Star Atlas, and I did extensive research on Multichain ventures and tokes
The fact that it was a failed project nearly made me decide to not jump into SA, if i'm honest, but I have been happy with most decisions made so far
and the fact that he is not trying to sweep it under the rug like most others would in his place shows that swag has actual character and is not another grifter
ie this is a good move for the project, even if it could be done better
You don't need to try and prove me of that, i know this, if I thought otherwise, I would have liquidated already
I am more in this camp, that it can be done better
and I'm sure it will, it is not my fault they make an announcement on the weekend, and expect us not to ponder and muse on it
then don't jump in and give all the regulatory this and that bs
i mean, it seems they want us to express our opinions on the matter
even if it could be done better
your opinion yeah, but leave the sec out of it
I am not touting the SEC BS as my main argument, maybe I am adding that to the fire, I will admit. But you can also admit, that this is something that the SEC would pounce on. I trust MW did his due diligence, doesn't deny the fact though.
umm yeah but I was telling the other guy that swag has the regulatory stuff on lockdown, I did not get into the other arguments yet you insisted on keeping on your bs
if I was responding to anything you said, it is because you were personally tagging me, lol
in any case, I know i have been ragging on it all day, so i'll give it a break
I'm not an unreasonable guy, you will find that about me, honestly. i have been through too much shit IRL to let things affect me, I am out to know the truth, that's all
explorer. tokesplatform. org/ <- even their cert is expired lol
It's okay, man. I personally feel your sentiment and you raised a valid point. This can be resolved very easily with a clear communication from the team, especially on MS side - which I think he cannot provide at the moment because they're still in Dubai (?). Nonetheless, I understand that you just wish to see the value add from the purchase, otherwise, why the acquisition, right? Thanks for raising it up. Makes me still feel sane 🙂
at the end of the day, ATMTA can do whatever they want, and we have no say. but it is in their best interests to keep us happy, so we need to express our concerns if we have them, it is important.
honestly its likely more optics and getting tokes holders to invest here (bringing in people) more then it is about the value of tokes as an asset in and of itself
and from that sense I agree with it
however there were likely better ways to do this
hey, this is a good strategic move. If MS really thinks like this, I'm all fine with it. If this is a DAO votation, he gets my 1 POLIS vote 😆
The way I see it, as of right now, this acquisition is beneficial to TOKES holders and to ATMTA. when it needs to be beneficial for everyone, and if anyone should take "the hit" it should be ATMTA
Tokes. Is it on waves blokchain?
they can try what they want, theyll just run their tokens to 0
let us hope Star Atlas is not Tokes 2.0
😛
from what I know its atmta taking 100% of the risk on it none on the dao (not that there is necesarily a diffrence right now nor do I know the fdmc on tokes off hand so)
its still dilution of assets is it not
but its also better to handle this now when atmta has liquidity and lack of imidiate financial obligations for it, then later when it could mean letting people go if things go south
At this stage, ATMTA taking a risk is essentially the same as the DAO taking the risk, which is why I am not yet heavily invested in POLIS, the longer term value proposition some days is abit shaky.
yeah it is
note I'm not touching the dilution of assets aspect in ether direction
in my arguments

The argument is that they will release these assets anyway, and that is fine, IMHO, but what is strange is why they give tokes holders 6 months priority before making them available to everyone else. I don't get that part.
and the argument to counter that is to "just buy tokes", but why should I have to buy tokes ? just make them available in ATLAS as well, problemo solved
just buy tokes
one the surface, feels like a tokes shill, that's all
Just buy tokes
just become exit liquidity for someone else dumping
yeah, like this is the only way to make medicine and you get monopoly. How much tokes do I need to buy for tier 1 plantation?
I don't presume to have the perfect solution, but there has got to be a better way
In a way, this has become a 3-coin project, right? POLIS-ATLAS-(a little bit of TOKES)
oh god, i hope not, even though that is probably a better solution than what is currently on the table.
tokes gets dumped into cultivation facilities then goes poof
I still don't know what's going on or the reasoning behind the purchase. It could be what jith said earlier about it bringing people but I also agree with sasqwatch. perhaps there is a better way to do it
honestly low risk on atmtas end
apparently there is only 1 exchange, probit I think, that you can trade it on
let us say i want to get a tier 1 plantation - can I get 2000 tokes now at reasonable price so I can have one for testing later
wait for it to bridge
yeah, if you wanna take that risk. I mean, tbf, they did this before, when they released assets with no utility, and people speculated for months before they were actually valuate(able), many people lost money speculating
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but then price might be to high for me to afford, do I need to buy now to provide a liquidity to tokes so I can guarantee a tier 1 plantation for testing
hey team what is SLY tooL/
then ignore it and get one in the dump phase
note there will be other ways to get these things in game later regardless
so everyone thats supporting this tokes deal is doing so on the science of “trust me bro swags a good dude” ?? because i havent seen any other argument.
after 6 months or before that, only speculation on the utility - like ok tier 1, how much biomass it produces?
its swags has proven to have the best interest of sa and tokes is a black mark on swag if left alone
ie its something needs to happen
is this the right something is the argument
The only positive thing I can take, is that MW is trying to close the book on tokes, so he can focus 100% on Star Atlas.
then whats the point of selling us all this bullshit about polis and “power to the people” ??
then close it broski people fail all the time
this is an atmta thing not a dao thing
the dao takes 0 risk from this on paper
in practice its a bit more complex
MS hasn't explained his side yet but I think you pretty much got it. Others speculated on his reasoning but aside from that, I think you got it.
i thought we couldn’t afford to even make the game work properly ??
I am not in support of the current announcement, it needs to be done in a different way, 100%
atmta just sold the titans, the rest is a process
We lack clarity, and they announced it at an opportune time for us to speculate on things, so I am sure they are gathering intel from our thoughts on discord right now.
also doing this once they hire back up with the titan money is a worse move then getting it out of the way now
ok then secure runway or reward us why tf should we be subsidizing their L ??
as any loss from this gets calced into growth before it means fireing people
the fact is the money that goes to atmta is for atmta to use
we have 0 say in that use
like it or not thats the fact
the other fact is we have no clue as to how much it impacts potential runway or impacts other investors that are looking to get in etc
ATMTA can do whatever they want, but it is in their best interests to keep us happy
it's not a value add to the company, as it's a free acquisition, meaning it cost nothing, but also brings nothing to the table. MW should show us a reason why he needs to favor TOKES holders over ATLAS holders by giving them a 6 month priority
note, I am not telling anyone how to feel just that from the legal end its all above board, its up to swag to sell us on the rest
and no, buying TOKES is not the answer I am looking for, I will not be exit liquidity for a project I want nothing to do with
Ok, so basically we need to clear image first then we use rest for dev game. Got it
tested it, fails to make an order
well its more about clear immage while the money can be budgeted then have it bite swag later and create other problems
i must be reading a lot, because i finally agree with you
im shocked
again not saying this is good or bad for us just, this is what is
hi everyone i cant log in my wallet to play.staratlas.com i receive an nft there can you help me?
bots will call you know...dont believe in ANYONE.
what do you mean you "receive an nft there" ?
seriously , everything is sooooo hard when it has the possibility of just benefiting the community but viola “tokes”
i won starship nft
create a ticket and team will help you https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/895336048517849099
Sounds like a scam
not here you didn’t 
umm there is no starpath nft that I know of
Is this from the Coins.PH reward?
Yeah, better contact a mod or open a #ticket . Don't reply to anyone in your dm's
Not sure how to receive it either.
thanks sir for assisting me have a nice day sir
We have a saying "to tighten our pants with rope first" - it is legit for the long run, just seems unfair to the SA community. And we have another saying "caught with my pants down" which is how I am feeling right now as a community member. Just expressing my feeling to the public.
yeah, again - all I am doing is saying whats going on - the statements are impartial and its up to swag to sell us on this being a good idea
ok so what the hell is tokes, and how am i being f'd over here, anyone?
youre right but i am allowed to think and feel a certain way about their choices i dont have to assume its good for me/us and to cheer him/them on for said choises choices
exactly, thats why I am saying why this is happening, no excuses for swag as the actual making you feel good about it (or not) is on him
i don't think you are seeing the big picture here
He did ask us about this. Considering the amount, maybe this Tokes deal is not really that pricy of a deal?
umm again, my opinon on this is not stated, just the fact that its up to them to decide how to use the money, its up to us to decide if we give them the money
i think they are dedicating a few million worth of SA assets
I will be waiting for further clarification from team, I think I have more than enough info right now to get on with other things that I need to do. I hope this gets addressed in the next brew and not trough a Saturday wine and chat session. And no, I will not be in a mood for theory crafting what the plantations could potentially do in game.
ATMTA, DAO. Can't really see the difference right now honestly. Hope "our" DAO won't have to refund this purchase
exactly its their job to sell us on this
"few million" that's like a titan ship
tokes is an old project that he was part of. This alone is kind of weird. But there is more weird shit.
i trust the project, will go nowhere but didn't like at all the fact that people that probably is not in the project at all get to own a new structure while i cant...not for 6mo at least.
and i wont buy a token attached to marijuana projects cause i dont use it nor like it.
has anyone received the rewards from yesterday already:
not gonna happen for awhile
dont hold your breath
maybe not ever
When crossroads news?
Same
on par for the SA course
why is that? do we know when we're going to receive?
Sooon
eventually when they release “crew”
Cause Tokes is the next BONK? 
tokes are like .x of a plantation ie kind like how the claimstakes from posters got dealt with
as long as thats all it is then whatever (as likely tokes inital earnings went into the dev of sa)
"Cheap"? At 0.02 it's over 25K for a T5
If you got some before the pump then good for you
get the plantations ether in game (when we have that capacity) or buy them on their inevitable dip
decent
They're going to sell them straight up in a few months.
Makes no sense to overpay
I'm new to the game. Trying to figure how sage labs works, seems like all the tutorial videos I find are outdated already with different things.. any recomendation of material or videos?
exactly
let the bots and the speculators provide the exit liquidity for tokes holders
yesterday someone was fast to buy around 95k tokens (spent 650$ i think) 
wonder if theyll spin tokes to be the currency that the eco terrorists use instead of atlas
ded tokens time to revive old ones
i want that booty discord i saw there
@martindude
SA bailout is coming on the next project
whoever that was, PM this dude. You have his permission 😆
nah odds are sa is viable enough for swag to stick this one out, tokes was always more of a meme/longshot idea
What's the plan for battling bots and people abusing the keys in this game? I saw a bunch of randomly generated/bottish names in game yesterday and it's a bad problem in any game that offers financial gain or NFTs lmao
Even in here asking for keys and such, brand new discord accounts, etc.
I vote no on that

im joking but regardless of how bullish you are on wagner i cant support this at all
again the cost benefit here for my agenda is more on the benefit side, again my agenda is a lot more then what most people are here for
as far as I know I am the only one here that has declared for ecos, and I'm ok with tokes being used like the poster claimstakes and thats honestly about it
so honestly I can say flat no to that for what my opinion is worth on the matter
hi guys
Welcome aboard, man
I'm not really new but thx ^^
Rumours are they're going to launch 2 new tokens later this year: SMOKE and ASH
hopefully we can trade atlas
ATLAS & POLIS are in such a good shape! A 3th token was needed!🫣
I'm not able to deposit a fraction of SOL into the vault. Do we have to deposit whole SOL coins?
At least they are honest in the description. Sometimes I wish the crypto masses had a little more common sense
So.. just joinging the chat... Where can we read about this TOKES thing?
Larger ship holders (even ogs) that are not in FR, dont get in unitl they chat/spam or buy more polis
So I am at a loss for seeing what the deal is on TOKES
I know some announcement was in the TOKES discorde
but am curious what everyone is chatting about
would be good for someone to quickly post a real announcement
before the rumor mill goes nuts
PR 101
There's no official reasoning, at least from the ATMTA, for the purchase of Tokes. All this time, we're just really speculating. Nothing is clear as of the moment
So is there an announcment that TOKEs was purchased by ATMA
And was it purchased with SA assets?
I recommend trying to research up on the project. TLDR is that it is a failed project MW was involved with before founding ATMTA and Star Atlas.
Any ideas when surge drop will be?
The rumor mill was initiated by the announcement, so they have nobody to blame but themselves really. I have nothing against the team, but this specific announcement could have been done better
a month at best most likely
looks like puri is the one
Ok... I kinda get this, and it is not necessarily a bad thing... Though I would admit, SWAGS making prior investors that backed him whole SHOULD have been done out of his personal stake/money... not the new venture...
A bit of a mistake when dealing with the VC/angel community quite honestly..
Totally get trying to make prior investors whole... so that they can support you again.
where to buy tokes?
where is the positive , plz lay it out
probit
But they should ideally not be made whole by hitting the asset values or liquidity of existing investors or customers
tokes predates star atlas and honestly is a potential black mark on swag if nothing happens there, this just gets rid of that problem (at other costs though)
it is dilution at the end of the day, no matter how you slice it...
I get that, but this does mean that he is giving a preferential exit to TOKES holders in the new venture.
The easy way to make this whole for everyone would be to give them equal purchase not preferential purchase of the new assets
exactly, its dilution in exchange for pr that puts sa in a better position from the masses pov then most other crypto projects
OR give everyone some form of airdrop
Yah, but the PR value is pretty nil candidly...
we are def customers i give up believing we have any power whatsoever
dilution is fine, we are already immune to that as a community, it is the preferential treatment to TOKES holders, why is that necessary, are we not also a loyal community ?
Most people did not really know or care about a failed project...
Now they do
So by doing this, SWAGS created a PR issue to solve
I get the Tech transfer, and IP transfer is a gain probably...
but poor/rookie way to make prior folks whole
depends, gamers are still hung up in all the trad nonsense around crypto this helps put sa out of a lot of that
note not saying its the best move but its a move
Like I said, easy fix would be to remove preference on assets... and just give everyone who was wiped out an airdrop.. equal to the community
now they get to ride on the new venture without investment (they were wiped out)
Give everyone in SA the ability to get some form of asset drop.
Like in surge?
Now those folks are coming in with some assets that did not cost
and are on an equal footing
also we don't know the tokes full ip (could be a hidden gem in there) or the balance sheets etc (as atmta is private they don't tell us these things)
meaning untill swag tells us via a town hall or what not we have 0 clue
but diluting everyone to obtain it
as to the full scake of this
with a history in place
was probably not executed in a way that sounds fair/above board
yeah we need swag to sell us on it at this point the rest is speculation on our part
As an investor myself, I have been wiped out, and had a project that failed and wiped out some of my friends and family
I have also done this kind of merge/transfer before
So I see what they are trying to do here... and that it is probably a gain
I just thing the mechanism is off, as it is giving the old investors
a preferential spot over the new investors
if we were in a downside scenario with SA, folks would take the haircut/dilution
I think market told us every thing we needed to know lol 3000 dollars made it so like a 30x
but we are not in a downside scenario...
so it is a haircut to the exsiting investor/player base
that lucky bastard
I wish I knew
Gonna be a drug lord
well yeah, but a lot of that is based on the halving that just happened as well, dono how much is speculation or actual value right now
I could retire early
Yah.. dissappointing the way this has gone down... frankly it brings back memories of FTX...
Still room for the team to course correct...
the merge itself is fine
I think they’ll sell us whatever isn’t redeemed the article said. And 200 million tokes in circulation and it would take 175m to clear all the drug labs so there is hope
So I will hope for the best...
making an announcement on the weekend, mid surge events, and no clarification from the team for two days (because weekend), is not fine
Looks like it’s been near zero for a while tho
Yah, but dillution is dilultion... and without tangible upside to the players/investors, it is going to taste bad...
You act surprised 😂
I wonder how many whales are reaching out to MW for OTC tokes
exactly, thats why its hard to tell because that 0 could just be because tokes was not going anywhere but had potential or had 0 potnetial in the first place
live the dream baby
Dilution has always been on the roadmap by selling us new ships and assets but typically they add revenue/runway
That is why I am saying, while I get the drivers are good, the execution is poor... this feeds all the negative stereotypes in the industry around crypto being inside deals, equity transfers, and market manipulation...
Hopefully they have a drug crafting tree at least 😂
yep, the fact is we need a ton more new ships no matter what, even the stuff that has been released does not begin to cover everything that needs to be covered as there are 3 factions etc
Key phrase and point you made... BY US purchasing the ships and assets....
Not others getting free assets... with no value coming to the project other than code that MAY work or have value... but also does not complete any EXISTING code/game loops...
This is a new function/game loop... so not really an accelerator strategically..
it is another line of code, support, game loop, etc.
that may not be fully baked for a while
and thats why we need to wait to see what the other selling points actually are before we pass judgement
Anybody else's ships not showing
so... probably good long run... but no gain to existing folks for quite some time
this is really a favor to prior folks..
Mine show, do the usual refresh
and I get the good, well intention behind it...
But how long until that news drops? LOL.. after a bunch of folks profit? LOL...
These folks should not have been made whole in the transaction.. they shoudl have just gotten the ability to gambe on the new venture..
the people who profit are mostly going to be those in tokes already (anyone who bought via insider trading is going to get other problems)
by taking a zero token and exchanging it for a token that has value, that current investors must pay for... that is not fair/equitable.
I get that the IP and code has to be fairly valued... if ATMTA wanted to cover themselves properly, they should have had a 3rd party firm like SVB do a fair market valuation of the IP/assets/code of TOKEs.. then determine what monetary value that has...
then been up front with the community...
the thing is your assuming they did not do that
in the end, the tokes folks should be coming in with a massive "loss" still, but now not a zero/complete loss....
if it were worth something, they could have just sold it - no need to bring it here
Making them whole with a six month window/advantage, paid for by investors in a project that is working... with no 3rd party validation/valuation..
is a bit shaky...
Agree... that is why I am saying a generous offer has them still at a massive loss... but at least they get a new ride for no entry price...
To make things fair/right, they should provide some form of compensation in the form of an asset drop, reduction, share, etc. for existing investors.
From an investor position, the SA folks (ALL OF THEM) should have a tangible gain... as the SA investment is healthy... right now, as it stands... if we are honest, SA investors are being treated as if SA is in a downside event/scenario with the transaction...
Unfortunately for everyone here... there is nothing you can really do about it... which is why I feel bad about this as kind of an unintended blunder... like the FTX thing...
Also calling out that it can be corrected.. but that is totally up to the generosity of ATMTA...
and I say GENEROSITY... as under the current structure, the SA community cant really do anything about it...
I will say that by doing this via ssets... it really does bolster the SEC argument that we are swapping equity... in the form of NFTs, but these folks are going to gain off of selling SA folks their "shares" of Tokes represented not in dollars, but digital tokens...
interesting to see how this all falls out...
Personally not bothered either way.. just a little dissappointed, as this COULD have been positioned as a win SO easily.. with some form of a token drop.... which to some degree is "magic internet money"...
Giving these folks this capability would be like launching the Claim Stakes, but giving one investor block the ability to buy them all up and make profit selling them to us... really no different from a macro view... as an example...
Hence why so many folks are not going to be happy with this... the fact it is drugged theme (does not bother me, as I live in WA) also is not so fun for some folks out there... makes you wonder if the TOKES guys may not be legal, hence the need to give them a sweet heart deal... lol.. "Vinny and Guido might show up to have some coffee in your shop, if they dont get a piece of the new action.. lol... NOT saying this is the case, but hence the reason this should have been done a little more thoughtfully...
Appreciate that they at least posted SOMETHING... as they could have done this quitely...
So nothing nefarious.. just poorly executed/thought all the way out IMHO.
ON the upside.. having an underwold play style element will be fun in the future...
Can I get access to the game somehow?
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After more thought, I've decided I actually indeed do wanna become a digital pharmicist. That sounds neat.
Is faction fleet still worth it with the decrease in atlas rewards?
I bet this all plays into the Evac nicely. We'll see.
Worth it compared to setting your money in a bank. Maybe.
Really hard question.
did anyone receie the airdropped crw members yet?
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SA is very thin in assets so this is actually good for long term gaming mechanics. Now we have passive biomass, copper etc and get plants recipes to make. For example make medicine for crew after they went to battle and injured or other kinds of plants that could buff them.
This can bring more ideas in the future for what we can do and economic loops
Overall, the game loop will be fun... we finally will get "boosts" lol.. want to speed up your crafting timer? Feed your folks some magic stuff... though they may need other things to compensate when they complete! LOL.. like coffee... water, etc.
They will post in the Announcements when they are ready
Agree. and crossed typing... lol.. .
no, it will be closed completely
When I posted above, it was seperating two things... the INVESTOR perspsective, versus the PLAYER perspective...
I do alot of walking at work. Cant wait for these crew. Hope they give me some time on the snapshot tho. Be nice to know beforehand.
Player- cool... Investor, not really cool... lol..
Overall, it will be fine... "This too, shall pass."
The team has good morales and ethics...
I think they release crew before mobile app
Yah.. and I bet soon.. otherwise they would not have offered it as a prize...
Also helps with LP loops...
Think I am player/investor. I sorta like new ppl coming in. Tough call that I may defer to Wagner. I still think he is very smart.
Maybe its a good thing for tokes? If the project has been going bad, holders who didnt want to sell can now use their tokens for something more valuable and future proof
He has done a bang up job with SA thus far.. a few misteps, but he has always recovered...
How long til mobile app man? speculate.
If I'm not mistaken they have actually given a rough deadline of H2 this year
This is tough stuff. I do agree with that. Im staying and am hooked. I gotta see what is next....
Undeniably good for TOKES holders... but SA holders/ participants are effectively their exit liquidity.. in the long term it may net out...
Is that 2nd half of yr Kiv?
ya
How are we their exit liquidity? We are not the ones buying their tokens
I have been here a few years... and we have done a lot of ups and downs... this will work out ok... Just wish we did not inflict harm on ourselves...
But we will be buying their tokens.. lol... they burn Tokes to get farms... for months they get to do this.. then they will sell us the farms.. so in essence we are buying their tokes... lol...
well, i am currently deciding if I should buy 2000 just in case
So how do we get involved with Tokes initially so we can get these drug havens???? 🙂
SA will get transaction fees, etc.
It wouldnt change if SA made their own and sell for atlas, maybe MW found a middle ground to help his other project
did I hear drugs 🤔
for pharmaceutical use of course 🤣
Im 100% getting 2k its about 50 bucks maybe the t2 if I can afford🫣
Not sure how that will work.. and another flaw with this plan.... actually.. as buy doing this, they will be inflating the value of TOKES... which gives tokes holders exist liquidity.. then the hodlers also get the option to transfer them into farms and sell them to us...LOL.. I bet all the T5 drug havens go fast to the TOKES holders...
if they do a snapshot method on who can participate, you may be to late to buy TOKES...
damn, the other week I had posted this just as a joke. a joke, team! I didn't mean for this to happen
they said it will be bridged over
That is interesting to think about. So they are the drug lords and we are the addicts. Interesting. Kudos if you knew about Tokes in the first place.... lol
If u dm Swagner u may be able to swap some tokens for SA assets
Sounds like a great partnership in the making
I think I did know about Tokes..... Just like I knew about Surge yesterday and forgot until 1 minute left. And then knew about Surge 2 as I fell asleep 3 minutes b4 the start. I know things.
"Don worry abowt it... I'm gonna make him an offer he cant refuse."
Tried this. Only got skins
thanks to the starbase economy claim stakes are losing value...
Always remember... at some point these bases will all be max level... and at some point, you wont get all your mats so easily.. the end goal is to turn the mining over to players... So claim drops are probably temporary.. the trick is for how long until that transfer happens...
I can hear the crying everywhere, when suddenly you have to work with the folks that own the claims/mining installations to get mats...
PSA 10 Black Knight (skin) from Fortnite sold for 3600 usd. Skns can be valuable.
Just gotta get the millions playing.
With Tokes play, wonder when we will get "mob enforcer" crew as a skill path... lol...
We need to merge with Rocket League next. I cant quit playing that game no matter how bad I get beat. I love to hate it so much.... lol
How could we make Star Atlas Rocket Leaugue. We have the ships. Just need a ball. Easy
dude cs2 skins go for millions
lol. Right man. Wasnt thinking.
Think the cs2 will actually have skins tho.
Id buy a nike skin.
i'm actually thinking about buying some SA skins lol, just for gamble, maybe in 10 years they go for millions too 😄
limited edition
Even tho I wear like walmart shoes. lmao
In cryptoland, skins is like PFP NFTs
what if man.... what if.... 🙂
never know man, that's how venture capitals work. They make 10 scketchy investments and hoping that 1 of them will pay for all and make profit too
Over my head. Hope that 1 works. lol
This was Wagners tho and I still think he is trying to do his best. Never gonna make everyone happy. And maybe he has ppl close to him that believed in Tokes. I like onboarding tho. No matter how. Hope this brings some eyes. Gonna be hate but bad press is press. Gonna be ppl fighting back too. Gonna be a show regardless.
I came here to actually cry because I missed both events yesterday. So everyone is airdropped ahead of me. That it is how the game works tho.
Too much for my tiny head to think about. lol. Gonna go watch Godzilla 2014. Already seen in backwards order.
and do you think that claim stake stations will be more profitable in the future? because now thanks to the economy they are less and less valuable... at the beginning of claim stake III it was worth 1000 usd
The gamble on any asset in here frankly... I bough ships years ago that are still underwater... I made the mistake of going big early on ships, not polis/tokens... and now realize that ships will never get back to the original value... not for a LONG time... I think Claims/mining installations might be different though... as we are trying to build a real economy..
So you wont want to dilute those to fast, as they have to pick up the slack once we are done building the basic stations...
The crying I think that will happen is when IRL players are depended upon to do all the mining from installations/claims, and you cant just go to one planet and mine at will... I also think ships mining (depending on type of course) will be seriously nerfed when we make this change...
As a base on a planet should FAR outweight the mining volume, time, cost, etc. versus a ship powered by even 20 crew...
Right now, that loop is not ready... so everyone is spoiled whether they realize it or not...
This is hypothesis... but I think it makes sense... the trick will be how far away is that time....
How to download
SHOWROOM
showroom, soon to be trimmed to shroom
egs soon
Bro... every time someone writes" SHOWROOM" my brain sees SHROOMS lol
Where do I put this key?
in redeem code tab on Epic Games
is it a one-time code?
yes
where to see the rewards for the playtest
all we know is that we hit all the tiers
as for exactly whats getting minted is unknown
distro is likely to be in the wallet used during the playtest (make sure you have that private key stored somehow ie seed phrase)
the good part is that all the redemption should be possible within the showroom ui so if you need to transfer sol in to remove the assets thats a possibility
At least Michael is very skilled to set the chat on fire
anyone who needs level 45 to get to fr now has something to talk about
!rank
meh!
!rank
having trouble to see the Surge in the game
even with the latest version, anyone having the same?
!rank
did you kill your actual account or what is this about?
anyone? any idea on why SURGE not showing up in my game? even with the latest version of game?
Surge is already over
hi all, i have probelm i cant conect my wallet
Joining now!!
I still have some ships in SAGE how do I get them out?
fly them to the CSS in sage and withdraw them
Are the rewards distributed?
I get an error after I connect my wallet "Unable to connect to Game Server"
!rank
i jusst connected. make sure and reset your cache
also that is the website
Do you know how to claim the rewards for the purge events
!rank
thanks I got into sage
Do you know how to claim rewards for the purge
no I do not
Please do nto accept any DM from any one.
Do not trust any DMs you may get with a question like that. No one official will ever DM you.
People will try to scam you.
when they are ready to give them out it will be announced in the announcement channel.
Oh ok thanks
It’s tied to an old email I forgot the password to and I can’t authenticate because the number was my old work phone.
So for practical purposes it’s a retired account the moment I logged out.
Now I’m Not Signal 🤝
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aren't you salty about all the discord exp you basically lost? xD
I think there will be announce about it
Dam
Is yours free?
Nope
Sorry, man... I literally understand it. 😭
Mining stockpiles are piling up, at least. 🥴
You guys definitely need some Tokes.
dont start this shit again lol
lol. sry man. Couldnt pass that up. 🙂
Someone should be working to get those guys their crew back. Yeesh.
Oh I'm sure it will be priority for tomorrow.
How long has it been man?
There are over 30k total crew stranded from the Hot Wallet fiasco.
Getting close to 48h
Im sry man. I would be livid. Glad I wasnt sure what a hot wallet was....
I havent made too many moves this weekend Lerinor. Too busy watching Solama pump. lol. You didnt lose very much ground to me anyway....
@amber jay ty for this gift, 180 crews member blocked
How much LP is given now per toolkit?
Haha no 😂
Like what was it actually worth?
so are you also NOT in ROME?
I honestly don’t know, I applied but I might not be active enough for them. Never got approved.
I'd rather you didn't become a sleazy xeno rodent. Though I fear you might since they're almost done with the char models. 
I wasn't overly euphoric when you were a Screwster
the bug is known, and I understand they're working on that. there's no point in blaming a specific person, let alone somebody not personally involved in the development. in case something is not clear, ask your SAI leaders and they'll explain and help you.
but I guess there's no point trying to talk you into MUD
They recently weeded out a lot of people I think based upon activity. I love them but I may not meet the criteria as a goofball with a bunch of PVP that just wants to relax and have fun at this point.
We’ll see.
I did not!
you give us all your POLIS and you get PVP (pirate violence protection) for it.
Is this a bad time to mention Based is running super fast right now???
yes pls don't interrupt, I'm in the middle of closing a deal with this gentleman here. 
Update has my base running smooth. Holy s. Its almost like several months ago. But not quite. But wow.
We'll see. Maybe I just got lucky for 5 minutes.
I brought to the chief's attention a not so minor problem, maybe he will groom someone who does ste things that create big problems for the players, if we then have to say everything is fine then ok, everything is fine
I plan to perserve. Thieves have nothing on the industrious! Fortunately he only accessed my game wallet and was not able to withdraw my 300$ fleet before I sent them to another wallet. The pirate did get my mining claim and small cash and killed my character and experience though.... Lesson learned!
Thank you
I'm not sure I got your point. I understand you asked but didn't receive enough support? And no, you don't have to say everything is fine. Just don't be bitter about it. Nobody is happy with you having these issues.
I got hacked awhile back too. Valuable lesson that will end up making me money. I like your attitude man.
How can you not be bitter, who knows when I will be able to resume playing, support responds with very long time, and I am stopped. Of course I am bitter, to say the least my friend🖖🏻
How much polis do we need to stake for this protection sir?
this is the great thing about it. Your level of protection is dynamically calculated from a variety of factors. It draws from your amount of POLIS invested with us, the total VWAP of your fleet, the faction and species of your main account and the Pirate King's daily mood.
Protection caps at 75% however.
Can't control a bunch of pirates

Yeah I get that, credimi. The support system is lacking at best. But you can safely assume that the issue is known and, I hope, being resolved. Many are in your very same situation. Please complain if the team doesn't give you enough support, but just don't complain with the people who have nothing to do with that.
so when we get the atlas and crew from surge rewards? or Never alone status lol
you do know that attitude only makes extermination look more attractive right
HAHAHA
How do mining rigs and space stations work right now. Are they worth getting?
What are tge first impressions of starbased?
Is it good? Exceeded expectations? Disappointing? Better than sage?
so when do we get the rare crew card?
i wouldn’t expect it for awhile
whenever they release crew expect it sometime after that
pirates expect loot tout suite. 
well we can't use it yet, the only thing it will do is throw more fuel on the speculation fire and well we have seen where that leads
ie tokes blowing up and well likely lots of people getting burnt on that
ie how much do you want to be that the plantations are around the cost of claimstakes if not lower
they may even be prefabs
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same 106 locked
600 locked lol
can someone reccomend a good website to help me get started?
it's a litle out dated so not all of it is 100% but if you go to https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/843881286611501066 and click on the one for the game manual, that will give you the basic idea of how all the gameplay will work. Then, I'd check out youtuber Beyond The Horizon's videos. Again, it's a little outdated since the game just recently changed but it will give you the gist of how to do things in starbased
and keep in mind most of the things in the manual aren't out yet, so really you could just watch the vids if you just want to get into things and play them how they are now
yeah I was trying to figure this out like two years ago and bought a ship but then didn't ever go back and look into. I wanted to see what has happened since. Seems like a lot
thanks for beyond the horizon's video guy i'll check that out
i heard the ue5 game is getting pretty good too but i can't really help you there since my computer can't handle it
@mighty lance thanks
yeah I wonder if my computer could handle it, just a mac m1 mini
the game melts laptops right now
on low graphics settings and relatively current hardware (not the most current but close) I was crashing every 3-4 games
note that was with peak player counts
but also note I did not close everything else out ether, if I did that I could push better performance
same
i9 4090 64 gb ram on low crashed a lot
-500 players was ok
hmm I think I got 3-4 crashes during about 2hrs of play
-400 was pretty good
3070
same
thats a lot
note that was also during said peak player count
honestly all things considered it was rather stable though
it was cool and a nice glimpse into the future
but its gotta be a lot more stable and kill any hacks / assists before it catches on to any mainstream gamers
still was fun
oh deffiniatly, still I don't know of any battle royal game that has 1000 people in the same map
i think 100 is the max
yes and we were doing 10x that at peak
exactly 1000 people needing to render at the same time for combat will be unusual
not just combat either the movement is kinda crazy
even attacking a titan most of the combatants will be spread out enough that it can be done via sharding
a lot going on
yeah
the fact that it was stable at all was a major achevement
honestly a game with 250 people would be very playable on repeat
the fact that we could do a viable 200x200x200 under current conditions is amazing
optimal is probably 100x3
thats still amazing
yeah the 200 per faction would be pushing it but possible if everyone had good rigs
im honestly still impressed flying around on an x4 i the experimental show room
epic settings of course
but the few people ive shown were wowed too
yeah, its been a while since I did that
also the lowest settings were not clay
so if we could push it lower it could be better performance
low settings are still like console settings basically
its still fun on low
exactly
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it just looks incredible on epic if you have the hardware
ie why those who want to be competitive and push performance could go a little lower for that
yeah I know, I don't have the best but I can still do things like photomode and what not in epic
not worth getting better for this though
at least not for a few more years
3070 should be good if you have a solid monitor
not yet
yeah I could go for a slightly better monitor but thats easy
especaily as I am willing to do multi monitor set ups
ie make the current my secondary and finaly retire this old one thats like 15 years old that I have as the second
shit you might just wanna wait for whatever version of that vision pro is available for gaming in the next few years
for gaming i love my alienware curved 34 oled
its big bright and fast
4k isnt really any improvement
yeah I have a 4k benq its not the best but it does the job, and again can never truly have too many monitors
never know when something can serve as a back up or whatever
i could easily use a few more but i dont think i can game on another monitor after using this one
rather have solid hardware as that is far more anoying and otherwise exppensive to replace
im not competitive enough for a 4k 24
id rather have slightly more immersion
well i am def looking forward to 2.2 a bit more after the surge event
lots to improve on but plenty to be excited about right now
Does anyone know how to release my crew from a cancelled staff upgrading project? I cancelled last night and they are still unable to be released. Nothing to click on, now way to get them out. Time remaining says TBD. Under workshop actions it is blank, nothing to click on.
In the same boat with alot of other people, we are all dead in the water
OK, that sucks.
It sure does
Is there some way to report it to someone who has the power to fix it?
Can we still play Star Atlas FPS Test and earn rewards?
Sux... I am constantly playing around in Showroom and of course I had to work on Surge test. Is there a way to receive reward for doing something tonight???!
No. that test is Over. There will be more to come.
gm
Is it worth it to buy a mining drill?
ok. Thanks. I am always a day late or a dollar short. I'll be on the lookout!
Thanks @plush vessel
Keep up with the Announcement Channel that is where you will find out when the Next one is. the last event was there like this. #📢┃announcements message
me too, two days
Have you guys seen the episode of Expanse where the station is quarantined and nobody is allowed to leave? I think that's the real story of what's going on with these stuck crew.
#FreeCrewWorkers!
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Even bugs have lore in SA 
Stucked crew also from my side
Rumours still floating around about Star Atlas and Wilder World Partnership? That would be mad!
No utility yet but someday when claims have utility that will give a small head start later on so that’s up to you
Noot told us this would happen sometime during a brew last summer
Wen p2a
Original game start ?
quien quiera becas de axie con ganancia estimada de 100 slp al dia si estan jugando un tiempo, al 80/20 (el 20 para el manager) el 80 para ustedes escribanme
100 es el minimo podrian llegar a ser hasta 20 de slp en cuentas que lleguen a dragon etc... que serian 350 de slp al dia
How can we access the game?
Do you mean the Epic unreal part of the game?
Whatever is available
There is alot available, you have the SAGE browser part and the 3d Unreal part to start with.
this may help
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Appreciate it bud
You can get a game code?
you can request one here https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1224480032685035540
So.. wondering if anyone has had this error... I started a crafting excercise (Iron to framework). Cancelled job. But now my Iron that I deposited has dissappeared.. 200k... I have hit F5, etc... Is this a timing issue/lag, or should I open a ticket?
stuff has been getting stuck, a lot of crew is locked up could be related
Thanks... just added this ticket to the other that is already open for another issue... I feel bad for the team... If I have two stacked tickets, there must be quite a few out there these days...
Hoping this gets resolved soon, as not only are the crafted items not returned from the cancellation, but the crew are locked up as well... so Ya... things are "stuck"...
they likely should have waited till monday to push out the profile thing
LOL.. what is the profile thing?
the way to use a hot wallet
I do have an issue with the profile, but have been working around it...
ie atlas vault + ledger to remove the need to click
Essentially, when we were getting performance lag, it appears it started a new profile/account in Based... so now i have two.. If I use my main browser (Brave) it defaults to the false profile with no ships... If I open a private window in Brave, I can select which profile and use this to access my true account.. super pain, but I know this is not something they are working right now...
Looks like a different problem...
Ho all. What is the benefit of adding materials and building up starbase in comparison to selling materials for profit?
you need to run the numbers on it
Market may not have liquidity to sustain consistent selling depending on fleet size. There is less fuel burn and time consumption to add to starbase instead of bringing back to css to sell. Just gotta run the numbers and figure out what’s best for the fleet you have
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What is the payout when building the starbase? For framework or others? Are there any numbers available?
Thx guys
I don’t have them on hand but each item gives a lp value and you just have to get an average guess based on past epochs for the faction
Food was rubbish its better to sell. Wonder if that's the case with framework and others
You guys in Rome are very active I may move from Aephia....
Got any interesting roles to fill at Rome? I got some good nr of miners
Yeah food and toolkits aren’t worth it. The others seem to be fairly close
But food and kits work well with faction/guild coordination so more people add a little at same time so everyone can craft at once
I’m fairly new there myself but there is always room for more im sure. Find the discord link in #archived-guild-ads
Aephia is pretty active tho too 
Sure thx. 😉 will check it out
GM Fellas 🐙 🎩
How many are we who want explanation about Tokes and this strange move?
Why not a TownHall?
After 10 hours I still have the crews stuck, but you shouldn't complain because if you don't you are ugly and bad.
well complaining is not going to get them unstuck any faster the fix will be ready when the fix is ready
If you cancel your craft, how long does it take for you to get back your crew? Been waiting for like 10min and it's still TBD
Oh same issue now
yeah I think the team needs to roll out a fix
you are absolutely right, I hope it can happen to you too, then you will see if you don't complain
crying about a known issue that the team is working on does not help it just gets everyone more upset
#ticket and wait for a solution, a lot of people have crew stuck
I just experienced now and I am not aware of others experiencing the same
If that is the case,.i should have not cancelled or crafted
Thanks for the info
well I'm angry and I think many others too, but we have to be happy if not you're a fudder
same here. Same asset.
20 hours since I tried to retrieve my crew
if everything goes wrong, you must not say it, you must sweep the poor under the carpet. beautiful!!!
hmm did you cancel it or try to claim it or it just finished and reverted to that
i canceled the crafting
ok then its the same bug that everyone else is talking about
no more food in that base, so I was trying to move to other base
honestly I just feed the base myself or let it sit till someone else feeds it, best to limit the craft to chunks that are being fed if its a base that does not get fed often
Did you raise ticket.mate? Cant raise another one as I have an open ticket.. looks i cant have 2 open tickets
I did it 18 hours ago.
Thanks mate! My bad i didnt see the chats earlier.. nwaya thanks for.the help lets see where it goes @cedar compass
yeah it looks like something they need the team back in for, hopefully we get an update in 12 hours or faster
We can not complain, the team is working on solving the problem, very slowly very slowly, however, you can go to the sea
its been going all weekend
Yeah going to the pool now with my kids take some plunge!
In my case, the only drawback of not having my crew due to this bug is that I can dedicate the weekend to exploiting STARBASED. But I understand that the team is constantly working to keep everything updated and resolved.
We are in autumn in these latitudes. The beach weather is already gone
It's super hot here in The Philippines
Gonna take some plunge now
Hope everything is fixed in 10hrs 😂
Enjoy autumn and summer!
Cheers!
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60 hours here, 870 crew.
There's over 30k crew stuck, from multiple people.
I'm sure it will be priority #1 for Monday.
Sucks, but they're aware, and will fix it.
Laguna?
hi frens, I've been away for a while and I have a stupid question... where do I buy 4R resources for my fleet? It seems the marketplace has none on offer
Hi all. Any update on crafting bug? Most of my fleets are stuck there....
oh here they are... I saw it empty for some time, maybe a visual glitch. Thanks!
how do i play the game
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Refresh. Clear yes
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yeah I know thanks
for a moment I suspected everything was now moved to starbase 😄
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Which guild is the biggest for mud?
CLUB
Hi guys, have we already got the rare crew award from the Surge event? If yes, Where can I find it?
No. Don't expect it soon.
Should we do anything to claim them or are they going to be assigned to our inventories?
Ok let me check club 😉 thx
Cannot do anything cause of the crafting big. Team pls any update?
i have still more then 60hours , can't do anything
could one of the mods be so kind to unban @tired remnant he got banned for posting a link to the MUD server @cold ledge
me too, 250+ crews member blocked more then 60hours @amber jay
got a link for club discord?
Links are not tolerated here. Please use google.
@amber jay , @wispy widget or @polar idol
I think it's important because this news make a lots of FUD and anger! We need explanation and transparency , we need official communication or better...a TownHall. Thanks for your understanding!
guys wtf is going on "Ingredients Deposited" 2 days of progress gone coz of bug
That’s nothing mate bodhi has like twenty billion crew or so trapped 🙃
ok
Why haven't you been responding to the tickets for two days? Is it right to bury your head in the sand like an ostrich? Are you considering fixing the bug or will you continue to act like it doesn't exist
we only have 1 team member in support, the mods cant fix your issues with crafting, team usually is off on the weekend, regardless some of them worked on finding the bug and fixing the issue. As soon there is a fix, you get the info in your ticket.
team is based in na and will be back online in a few hours
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Merci vb 🫂
still wondering how can i access my star atlas account where my airdrop not yet claim T_T so sad cant even connect any wallet atm.
when trying to connect wallet nothing is happening
im not sure yet on how the drop will work (claim or drop), import your showroom wallet into any solana wallet like phantom solflare or backpack
then when the drop claim arrives connect to the main page by creating an account
to access the market or check your ingame inventory
Makati my friend
known issue, all my crew is also being held hostage, the team is working on it
How is the team there in Dubai? Were they able to go home safely? I have friends who slept in the airport.. i hope they are all well..
it was just santi and swag as far as i know
swag posted in fr chat he is on the way to bangkok
not sure if santi goes there as well
Besides the crew stuck problem from cancelling crafts,how are the atlas prime vault & hot wallet settings going? Can I use them to avoid clicking my ledger every few seconds?
Hope they are both doing fine.. that was a hell of a storm & flooding there!
Nways, hope they all good especially those cancelled flights..
in theory yes, but i would wait till we get proper instructions, it got released friday evening, i have not seen the knowledge base updated yet
also a crafting bug seems related to using it
Ok I'll keep waiting... it's just so tempting 🤣
i mean i saw people using it, just the crafting issue is still not solved
I'm done plunging, waiting for devs fix on my crew 🙂
All the best guys! Rooting for you!
Good job on Surge! We did it!
Star Atlas catching more attention in 🇵🇭 ?? Rentals will be huge
I have made a few tests, looks like it works that way, but there are other stuff aside from crew that need more work. Example - you cannot withdraw less than 1 sol from vault wallet right now. You can deposit some as a workaround using the wallet address but the interface is locked to single digits. So you are locking your sol there unless you have 1-2 sol in your wallet to deposit enough to make the vault have 1 sol and then withdraw it ( only workaround I can think off right now ).
So I would advise to wait until there is clear docs on how to use and team looks at most critical bugs first
but the main problem is when click on connect wallet nothing is happening evern pop up nothing
Yes, Philippines is waiving for rentals
Just when
not sure about that, i have not tried it myself, as soon the team is back on i will ask
Is there a benefit to owning a freight ship in terms of weight of resources, or do they have the same rules as all other ships ?
sure same
weight is weight for all ships
Can't wait for modules and ship config, being able to adjust things like this will be epic, and really bring the game to life
Would be cool to do something like Atlas Grace for PH, maybe one day
a few days before its working but after that the metamask and other wallet is gone
Anyone, where to put the code I get?
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now marketplace of course in stagnation.
because all focus in their own mining crafting upgrading to earn lp... sad :<
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gm
Yeah, I think this is temporary though, I am sure they will introduce crafting again soon, as in crafting modules, components, and ships. MW even hinted at the new asset class they plan to release being craftable, so let's see
Your the best !
hope it will be mate 👍
i will be able to just craft sitting on CSS (putting daily at least 1M food to help all and myself) and it can work 😂
Hi mate. I dont see my code anymore. is it closed by any chance?
Yes, please. You can do it now if you wish to Sir.. i believe sly bot can facilitate it
Get another one at #archived-key-requests
it says no access
perhaps it got depleted. Ask at #archived-key-requests and try again.
You can sell it directly in the buy side right? It's liquid unless you want a higher margin.. you may buy or sell OTC mate
why it always says no access?
one more thing, can we redeem multi?
don‘t think so. one account one key
i'm not new in SA bro 😄
i know how it work, it's huge difference between sell and high, now in OTC even not a lot of buyers.
With current buy orders - margin will be pretty sad.
In that situation - even with time that need to transport and upgrade SB - it will be more profitable than non-stop craft i think 😄
we all adapting, but in common sense it's hard to find your place now when it's like game of whales 😄
You can ask for more SA epic store game codes and and give it to your friends so they can join 🙂 the more the merrier!
cause when I redeem one, it suggest redeem new
example power source - it's like not even 10% max margin from buy orders (if we include comissions) (also it's enough Carbon on market but not enough Lumanite for good price, that mean margin could be even max 5-7%)
so you alrdy redeemed one key?
Isn't it that the margin goes up and down? Fuel before on 16+ level and goes up to 20+,, that's market,, isnt it the thing is to sell when it's to sell and buy when it's time to buy?
Stagnation maybe u r referring is your profit target but not the market place liquidity mate
Yes I adid
but you can't always win mate 😂
and you can craft BILLIONS of Fuel 😄
and just sit with them
you dowloaded Star Atlas client?
you need a lot of liquidity in money to cover that
Why can't win? I mine for free, i craft wd atlas then sell higher than my crafting fee.. so profit right? That's winning
😄
what do i do ? i cancelled this craft because no one deposit food om mud-2, shouldnt I be able to get my crew back?
I clicked "Cancel Craft"
welcome to the club
yeah, team is working on it
Is it just me or does Showroom multiplayer not work?

it has not been working since the first stress test release ( I mean the one before surge was a thing )
Really? Well that sucks
They should probably increase the capacity of the Starbases for food and toolkits... only getting half a day from max fill is weird and one of the main reasons they keep running out
Well, the main reason is because we're all cheap bastards, waiting for someone else to fill it up. 🙈
If everyone crafting deposited 3% of their crafted value in food, no issues. But yeah... No.
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Oh 100%. Being able to sit in a UE5 garage upgrading and customizing and changing ships and swapping parts will keep me entertained for probably 1,000 hours by itself.
Welcome in the club!!! Same situation since 9 am yesterday morning.
I’m hoping for some interoperability between the parts on different ships but obviously that’s a wait and see.
Like mixing the tech of different manufacturers etc.
What do you mean, you can put a vzus maneuvering thruster on your airbike while also having a subwarp engine from rainbow. Or you want something else?
or you mean like making some kind of hybrid part that has stats from both rainbow and tufa?
Guilty
Hi Sir @hazy hedge @wispy widget
Issue on TBD cancelled craft has been ringing all day here
Any update please?
Sorry cant find one from the announcement although mods mentioned team is fixing it
Not sure but someone mentioned issue has been an issue for days now
Appreciate any quick announcement from the team.
Although I’ve put in 1M of each food and kits but crafted 2m frameworks and 2m ammo
Yeah it’s known. Fr room has been all over it from us since Friday/Saturday. Just gotta wait
All right, copy thanks
An announcement saying “hey don’t do this for a few days” would of saved a ton of people tho 😂
Like me who is not aware of the issue, my bad js came vacay while my xtra little time focused on surge last weekend 😂
Nways all the best!
That’s what I mean. Yeah like swapping engines and components to modify how the ships core stats operate etc.
Best practice has always been to watch others try new things on launch to see if they get stuck, saved me a few times 😂
Then you gotta upgrade them
Yeah...
Imagine a maxed out ambwe or earp
Me too. The problem is, I did NOT use the new feature and my crew still is stuck.
Yeah started to hear this too
Also
like so?
Yeah me as well.
Yes
The new feature being released might be the "common" thing
Does vzus even has an xs? I guess each manufacturer can do every size?
Exactly like so 👍
Yeah that’s weird.
I guess they can though.
if made for sage we better have the ability to save a template and apply in batch for multiple ships
Nope. Gotta do that manually

I mean I suppose that can make sense. Maybe some manufacturers have benefits that others don’t have so you’d want the one that’s best in each category
Just probably won’t be able to swap for one that doesn’t exist until crafting for these come
Otherwise where would it come from?
But would putting a tufa hull on a scud make it look like a rock shell?
Yeah. Like maybe one has a shorter or longer shield recharge, vs tougher or weaker shields.
The calico has an ogrika hull in that pic
Like a light shield but it starts recharging the moment you aren’t being hit.
Or a heavy one but has a longer delay.
it is hull reinforcement - like the tubes they put inside racing cars to protect the driver. It is structural support for the hull not the hull itself
the weapons change thoug
Ah
But yeah that’s the dream. When you are done it really just feels like YOUR ship. Not just a ship.
Sounds complicated in my head to do that 😂
Also why I don’t want to own multiples of the same ship anymore.
Imagine all that customizing hassle.
Lots of ships in general at least for UE5 seems like a pain.
Or at least expensive AF.
I’ve learned that basically everything is a black hole 😂
At what point will we be able to just piece a ton of shit together to make a rando customized ship?
Brad Pitt in Fight Club said “the things you own, end up owning you”. I think that’s how ships will feel.
well they said they drop the size thingy that is still advertised on the marketplace and instead we get same component sizes for all ship components ( the same as the ship ) but we would be getting a different tier of components. So for your racing ship you might want to find a subwarp engine from Rainbow T5. Something like that
That should be our motto here 😂
I think you can only fit the same ship size components to others of same size tho no?
I guess eventually we’ll be able to craft rainbow items but for now from what’s on market it’s fairly limited
well according to this article that I missed the xxs ships will only have xxs size slots, the small ships will only have small size slots:
medium.com/star-atlas/star-atlas-3rd-generation-ship-configuration-system-9c067d2e681
also confirmed when checking the components sizes in Showroom
Right that’s what I mean and there is no rainbow for the racer ship sizes is what I meant here. Not yet anyway
yep, we will have to make them to have them
Unless you race with a small
Ultimately I definitely think I’ll wind up with one ship that just feels like “mine”. I’m collecting different mediums, smalls, etc. until I know more about how it’ll work.
Fly different stuff, see how it all works, what I like, etc.
Yeah my end game eventually is to just have one bounty Hunter and make it bad ass for ue5. Maybe one racer
I am up for racing in flight mode, but I think hover racing is reserved for xxs and xs only
Curious to see what we will need for game hunting in ue5
Same I think that’s perfect.
Ah ok so we gotta wait for component crafting to make them extra special then
Hard part will actually be selling the stack when combat comes and being content
I think the answer to breaking the addiction etc. is to stay out of the Econ loop.
2.2 will help a little but wen
Yeah. Just not content with polis as Econ loop but that’s really all it is when you break it down
Like if I just think of it as a UE5 game I have no reason to mess with SAGE and worry about Econ or ROI.
If there isn’t an ROI I have no reason to treat it like an investment, if it’s not an investment I have no reason to go nuts pouring my life savings into ships…
Etc.
Maybe by the time combat comes we will have 2.2
That would be awesome I’m starting to look at building a setup to play UE5 more often since more is available now.
Excited to see game hunting in ue5 too
I just found out recently these fuckers sent me a laptop with a 3060 when I paid for a 4080 😂
So have to do the same
Sage is a trap tho
I don’t think really any of us have any realized gains here maybe like 2% of us 😂
Within another month or so I’ll be starting to get regular in UE5 I think.
Did you do surge?
Yeah I definitely don’t. Maybe in a year I’ll be even.
I wanted to I’m in tech support getting my Shadow reset
Then I’ll set it up again.
what does that mean?
Yeah I’ll stay with Shadow I don’t want to drop thousands on hardware but I’ll get a nice screen etc to run off of.
also gm
starcomm is down or something? not loading here
GM
oh its been off/on for 3 days. just give it a refresh
Yeah I’ve been basing all day or rather fly sly has
Yeah it’s def been flickering
What a crazy world we live in man
Just wait a few years for when we can upload our ai girlfriends into Japanese girl bots
And then we can train them to manage our fleets for us
How do I get my crew back?
Get in line and Wait a few days like half of Galia
A lot of people are stuck right now but it’s a known issue
Ah! Hello old friend! Thank you.
I see it now 😂
First thing I’m doing with crew packs is finding my sogmian wife
Whoever gets it right will make billions
We can get this already in human form. I want some sogmian bot or Punaab
Can we get a fix on this stuck crew already sheesh
still only 6:30 pacific time tho
day 3 no lp for me

well guess I'll do something else for now
Any news on the crew stuck bug?
to authorize with surge we are putting our wallet mnemonic phrase. Safe right?
no
it dont ask any mnemonic phrase
On initial download I believe the game does import wallet via phrase
ah surge... i read sage
Not yet fren
Unless they changed it
yeah surge asks, but it would not import the main wallet still
Don’t accept any dms
invest in a hardware wallet
Yeah, but you also can login by creating a new wallet inside the Showroom/game https://support.staratlas.com/how-do-i-create-a-new-wallet
Learn how to create a wallet in Star Atlas Showroom with our easy guide. Includes images, video and instructions for creating a wallet.
TIL
yes but for rewards?
Is it possible to have 2 wallets of solflare connected to ledger or no?
Solflare is just a UI, so the way it works is that your ledger wallet is being reflected on Solflare, not the other way around.
soo no?
If you are wondering if it's possible to have two Ledger wallets reflected on Solflare, yes, that is possible
if you can select derivation path, yes.
I think the answer is no, but the question is abit vague to begin with
Like I already have 1 solflare wallet connected to my ledger but I want to get my main wallet for SA on it as well

