👽┃general

[west slate]

well yeah thats buying raw and then crafting, not doing the entire process

[rich steeple]

I consider myself as medium player and I am buying raw and crafting lol 😄

[turbid mountain]

whats that ? idk about that . explain more please

[rugged bridge]

I feel you man... We destroy our wrists for a web game

Becarefull m8

[west slate]

#archived-surge-information #archived-key-requests

[turbid mountain]

you means playing game in epic games ?

[mortal lark]

best thing you can do as a smaller player is mine hydrogen in CSS, and sell it on marketplace. ideally with a mining ship to cut costs. maybe trying to pick some good profit crafts when there is food in CSS, but currently (in based), there is rarely food in CSS for crafting

[west slate]

thats where the single ship/small fleets are going to actually be more usefull

as a smaller player your stuck on very low volume

[mortal lark]

anything that has to do with logistics for smaller players is financial suicide

[rugged bridge]

Indeed.. atm we cant.. if we go low price... we will wait forever to the transactions. What I understood

[turbid mountain]

that game need a high qualify pc . my pc is medium . then game is lag for me and i cant play good there

[west slate]

I would sugest doing more reserch, honestly for now your likely better off just staying at the css and mining hydro

anything that might actually be better for small players in starbased is a big ? till the 16th

[winter jungle]

hey guys! the mining drill, power plant and space station thats in marketplace, what are those used for?

[west slate]

right now nothing

[turbid mountain]

no my means not about fees . my means less transactions .everything needed transactions and it get alot time to wait always

[turbid mountain]

got . it thanks mate . i will do that then .

[west slate]

its all on chain there are not really any other options right now

[rugged bridge]

Aaahh... yes ineed... The could change the food uploading to the same as fuel.... So we dont have to type in the numres all the time .... would help me alot...

[viscid atlas]

MUD's CSS is hungrier than a deaf man's tamagotchi. Come on people! To feel hungry, my Argentine salary is enough. Get ready, I want to craft.

[wild osprey]

@serene willow which private RPC provider do you use if you don't mind sharing

[regal crest]

Anyone using Backpack Wallet, friends, is it reliable?

[winter jungle]

same with the Housing for CSS tiers? those are selling for thousands of dollars now even... is there somewhere i can see what all of these items are for?

[rich steeple]

he uses quicknode

[shut bramble]

Good morning @valid yoke

[patent iris]

Where's my GM?

[shut bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

[rich steeple]

gm? it's midnight

[shut bramble]

HI CAT!!!!!

[rich steeple]

cat says hi back 😄

[patent iris]

I thought we were in a "friend phase"?

We back to the enemy phase?

[shut bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-reynolds-ugh-fine-gif-11212456

[shut bramble]

can i has cat

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/radio-disco-polo-polski-rock-mp3-pozdrowienia-gif-14560778

[rich steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boy-is-mine-boyfriend-golden-girls-husband-crush-gif-22289056

[honest root]

ok so whats going on, i put 1 imp TIP in the css base in saga and it worked then i tried to put in 9 more and now i cant find the 9 tips anywhere

[hidden grail]

maybe because you only put in the tip. you gotta tap the base if you wanna be sucessful

[serene willow]

Quicknode, but the paid plan.

[shut bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/thief-stealing-stole-cat-kidnapping-gif-13580660

[shut bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-friend-friendship-happy-gif-13403323

[shut bramble]

you imported them from your wallet?

[honest root]

ya

was putting them from my wallet to base

and i saw that the one worked so i tried to put in more then now i cant find them in my wallet or saga

[idle quarry]

Shift F5 and they appear

[honest root]

ok ya wow ty so much

[topaz pine]

Where u beeeen

[shut bramble]

trying txns over and over and over and over and over and over again

[shut bramble]

if i Shift F5 then will more ships appear in my CSS too?

[topaz pine]

U using quicknode?

[shut bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[topaz pine]

Beth wtf

[topaz pine]

SA added randomised RPCs and quicknode is doing better in congestion. You need to F5 til you get quicknode

[idle quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-maybe-gif-20413224

[idle quarry]

Is there a way to tell what rpc your on?

[west slate]

yeah it shows up when you open up the console (f12 for most browsers)

[west slate]

even that gets overloaded at times

ie why I was just like f it and set the vpn to japan, slow in general but less having to push tx

[viscid atlas]

MUD's CSS is hungrier than a deaf man's tamagotchi. Come on people! To feel hungry, my Argentine salary is enough. Get ready, I want to craft.

[topaz pine]

Yah open dev console. One of the first 5 lines

[cinder arch]

is it possible to move my fleet in labs

[shut bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[lucid scarab]

If you figure out how, tell me 🙂

[cinder arch]

i have so many resources in Galia and I need to bring them back to CSS

[lucid scarab]

My resources are all in CSS and it isn't loading

[cinder arch]

these few weeks are hell

[cinder arch]

Damn!

[narrow agate]

OOO Kay totally new to crypto gaming. Stumbled on this here game. Setup a solflare wallet added some sol tried to join the game setup a character with MUD gave it a name glicked go.....Clicked go. It emptied my details so selected MUD same name clicked go. Yea I'm in. I've been charged 0.02 then 0.02 then 0.01 sol Details unknown. That seems a little expensive just to log in. Is this correct or have I messed up?

[cinder arch]

I want to move to Starbased but I cant

Is there somewhere end date for labs and v1.labs versions?

[lucid scarab]

in a week, more specfic at april 16th

[topaz pine]

It's correct. You are storing that information on chain which requires rent deposits.

[desert beacon]

you'r experiencing what many call "rental fees" thats not thier technical name btw. on sol everytime you do somthing new it creates a new account on chain and that account needs a bit of sol to opperate, once your done you can close the account and retrieve your sol back

[wild osprey]

Has anyone noticed that solana performance has gradually got worse over the last 3/4 days or is it just me.

Worse to the point it is literal standstill. Is anyone actually getting anything through?

Mainly RPC issues and then when it's not RPC it's a problem getting into a block

Or is it just me

[hazy hedge]

I heard there's a patch coming on the 15th

[topaz pine]

What? Solana is experiencing congestion? No first time hearing about it.

[hazy hedge]

Can't wait lol

[topaz pine]

Where u been sir!

[wild osprey]

No guys I mean... it was actually working about 3 days ago. Some consistency

[desert beacon]

been too busy being %100 of the volume on ADA have you?

[wild osprey]

But then it's gradually got worse in that time period

[topaz pine]

Yeah so fucking Ore can mine more. Idiots.

[topaz pine]

Yah I bridged my SA to ADA over the weekend.

[desert beacon]

crushing

[hazy hedge]

Lots of behind-the-scenes stuff. Big releases this year need big boy marketing so a lot of my attention has been on that

[desert beacon]

i tried to research that is it basically just a spam project?

maybe not sinced its only one per min

[mint crystal]

On trying to find the Big Boy to do the marketing?

[hazy hedge]

Also running our twitter, you guys know we have better stats on twitter than Shrapnel/Parallel/Illuvium? Had to flex a bit

[narrow agate]

Ok So everytime I do anything in game it takes sol. But I may get some of it back. Not when I purchase things such as ships, food or fuel.

[hazy hedge]

Nah, just planning on how and what we do for each big release

[topaz pine]

Ohhhhhhhhh. You guys must be really be cooking if they started using the bench! LFG.

[west slate]

hmm, interesting, perhaps its because were building something worthwhile here not just another game

[topaz pine]

Better then who?

[hazy hedge]

Frick you buddy 😠

[cinder arch]

hope this date will be postponed

[desert beacon]

you would get it back from all rental acocunts after your done using it and you close the account, if you paln to continue to use that asset then its better to keep them open

[topaz pine]

Why didn't you repost my Galia merchandise post? Wtf

[hazy hedge]

Which

[west slate]

nope not going to happen, they need to phase out labs so new stuff can come in

[desert beacon]

there are a few exeptions of accounts that you cannot close

[topaz pine]

https://twitter.com/Bryan_Cogent/status/1777484008009482368?t=HElCmAh86N7kg6CWoTT5dQ&s=19

Bryan | Cogent Crypto (@Bryan_Cogent) on X

New swag on the way from @GaliaMerchants! Epic shirts and and I just love coffee mugs. It's also just so damn cool to see the @staratlas IP policy in play. Free access to AAA content without paying a dime under $1M gross profit. Wild stuff.

Twitter · Apr 8, 2024, 11:49 PM

[hazy hedge]

True. I genuinely think we're going to create the biggest game in the world.

I'm not exaggerating either lol

[topaz pine]

Okay I'm out of money til next month can you chill a bit.

[west slate]

I mean nation state is not exactly an exaggeration here

[desert beacon]

got on nosana

[topaz pine]

When Star Atlas con!

[desert beacon]

gonna put this gpu to work

been living rent free for too long

[hazy hedge]

Once the company is in a very comfortable position, this is inevitable

[cinder arch]

what da hell! what about my resources?

[topaz pine]

I need to dirty dance lift Swagner on stage.

[gloomy elbow]

Welcome to the new world

[hazy hedge]

lol

[topaz pine]

He's big though I gotta keep training

[hazy hedge]

Damn thats messed up bro

[west slate]

speaking of I got my passport so while I think trying to get to breakpoint this year is not possible I should be able to go next year

[topaz pine]

Nothing wrong with big. I'm big!

[cinder arch]

This solana thing is unbelievable

[narrow agate]

Yea skint before I stepped out the door haha. Guess I'll have to stick to entropia

[hazy hedge]

How's your Starbased journey going bro

[gloomy elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/chewbacca-chewbacca-laughing-star-wars-laughing-chewy-gif-16482668626941702801

[desert beacon]

the price of sol shows how big of a problem it actually is

🤏

[hazy hedge]

Solana will fix itself, I'm not worried.

[west slate]

just shows that its time to buy sol if you can (nfa)

[hazy hedge]

Was this all you @topaz pine

The Ruchs

[desert beacon]

all these sol haters should short

[topaz pine]

Really good. I hoarded zero components so I've just been setting up all my supply lines. Now I'm trying to work out timings so I'm not up til 1am every morning. It hasn't worked so far.

I'm like 95% TX success rate right now. It's kind of insane how successful Star Atlas is right now. Im fairly certain Star Atlas is the most successful dapp right now. And it's not even just quicknode. I have quicknode on backpack and it's not hitting all the time.

[desert beacon]

WTF

[west slate]

lol, I would love to see how that goes after 1.18 is out

[topaz pine]

Holy fuck. No i only bought 4000 Ruch. I picked up some Zeus instead and paid rent this month.

[hazy hedge]

One of these days I'd like to sit down with you and dive deep into your experience with Labs/Starbased

[topaz pine]

Sure. Do one of those fancy star atlas interviews with me. 💪

[desert beacon]

is that weekly?

[hazy hedge]

Ya

[desert beacon]

has to be

[hazy hedge]

Done by Aephia

[desert beacon]

ok jeez

still tho

[proud shoal]

Is 1.18 supposed to fix the congestion? I was thinking this won't resolve until firedancer releases. That or Solana dumps and folks stop using it.

[wild osprey]

If a star base has no food, you can't craft. But you need to craft food from biomass. So what happens then... People have to buy food from the market to put into starbases to enable crafting?

[west slate]

1.18 is supposed to fix a lot of the bigger problems

[topaz pine]

No. We thought it was the scheduler but it's QUIC right now. These are bug fixes that will roll out in 1.17 so we don't have to wait for 1.18 I believe.

1.18 will help but only after we deal with the Quic spam.

[west slate]

so when should we start to see improvement, as I hear 1.18 is due out on the 15th

[hazy hedge]

Was the Copper refilled btw?

[west slate]

ie not exactly that much time between now and then

[topaz pine]

I wouldnt be surprised if we see another 1.17 version.

[proud shoal]

Personally I would welcome a max exodus from Sol right now. Cheaper Sol and better transactions.

[desert beacon]

no 😦

[west slate]

oh so 1.18 is being pushed back then

or is it all happening in the next week

[topaz pine]

The good part of 1.18 is that we don't need to wait for feature gates and might get the Quic fixes immediately.

[topaz pine]

I'm not sure how they are rolling it out.

[proud shoal]

Do we have a copper shortage in SA too?

[west slate]

fair, happens

I mean as expected more or less

[hazy hedge]

Bumped the team again, appreciate the patience Bodhi

[desert beacon]

the IMPs are selling from the dev tranch on atlas side or was that second market you rekon?

impressive numbers on those

over 1 a day

[hazy hedge]

I saw at least one from the dev side

[desert beacon]

ah, must be that whale flipping then

[topaz pine]

Taps were decent with rebase down at .0069 atlas

[hazy hedge]

We're trying to get our transactions to go through but they keep failing

That's why it hasn't been refilled yet

[desert beacon]

theres a couple tips for decent price in the market btw

there wer 8 for around 330

now only 2 at 360

[west slate]

tap is cheaper to buy aftermarket, tip is still way better aftermarket

[desert beacon]

classic solana

[topaz pine]

I have plenty of miners.

[topaz pine]

Tell them to use quicknode.

[desert beacon]

same, the origional tranch was juicy eh?

[topaz pine]

JK they know

[desert beacon]

kinda whack for ships bought at peak tho lol

[topaz pine]

They had plenty of time to roi.

[desert beacon]

got the same mining rate for like %30 of the price

[desert beacon]

true true

really needed to have sold atlas early on to nail it

compounding did well enough

i made some mistakes, but i compounded enough to not get rekt in the bear market

[spring bridge]

WTB Copper Wire 0.003 ATLAS each

[rugged bridge]

I have some at my home 😆

[topaz pine]

bro i just got a trent.sol retweet. im gunna be famous. cant even get an SA retweet. im gunna block you after im famous. 💪

[hazy hedge]

Try now

[hazy hedge]

Bro ur lucky i love u

[desert beacon]

good to go! thanks bro!

[topaz pine]

ah sorry bro it wasnt a good tweet if i had to coerce you. ill do better next time

[hazy hedge]

It was a good tweet

Or I wouldn't have RTd

[late pollen]

Solana terrible again. This 1.17 update will improve performance?

[wild osprey]

Maybe a solution to having no food in the CSS is allow people to stake ships into the CSS when they aren't using them. Incentivise

People aren't using them when they sleep. When they go to work

[spring bridge]

LOOOL , WTB Copper Wiereeesss

[wild osprey]

And that generates food

[quasi glade]

Actually love that idea....

[mortal lark]

The reason it won't be like that is because they are making this less of a passive game, and more of an active game, aka, you are rewarded for actually playing the game.

[quasi glade]

but i hear that too... 🙂

[wild osprey]

Yeah but. If no food in the css then you can't craft

[west slate]

they do need to give us a way to do stuff when the css has 0 food though

[wild osprey]

And you need to craft food from biomass

[west slate]

perhaps significantly longer craft times

[wild osprey]

But you can't craft biomass because there is no food

It's a loop

[west slate]

but I also know its harder to code that

[west slate]

we need to take from claimstakes right now

the main issue is though that food is deposited at a loss

and labs has no food requ for crafting

so as the food depot at a loss is not exactly bad there can't be a fix till labs finishes out

[mortal lark]

CSS is only needed to craft toolkits and electromagnets, rarely do you even need to craft there, and once another starbase is t2, will be able to craft those items there instead (although most probably another CSS craft will be required for t3 upgrades)

[wild osprey]

Maybe css should just be unlimited food

[mortal lark]

food and toolkits deposits are supposed to be a sink, they are supposed be a loss, that is most likely by design

[wild osprey]

And then move crafting to specific other star bases

[quasi glade]

I still dont think it needs fixed. It is early and ppl arent really sure what to do yet exactly.... And that is games in nutshell...

[mortal lark]

food and toolkits is supposed to be a shared "cost" across all faction members, to enable people to use different starbases and CSS for crafting and upgrading.

[west slate]

no the food burn rate at the css is high

as its still needed for some stuff

[quasi glade]

I believe that....

[wild osprey]

But whose burden is it to donate their time or money or tx fees?

[west slate]

the biggest issue is again if food is deposeted at a loss bigger crafts will just happen in labs till the 16th

[quasi glade]

Losing xp all the while.

[wild osprey]

Things need to be incentivised

[west slate]

people who want to craft, also guilds etc

[quasi glade]

Unless they cap of course.

I think xp is way more valuable than anything. that is just me tho.

[west slate]

another issue with the burn rate is the network instability, if the network was working the burn rate would not be as big a deal

as it could take a bit of time just to get a craft started

[wild osprey]

So then guilds get food into a star base to cover a period of time to get X crafting completed?

[mortal lark]

should be everyone's

[quasi glade]

that does sorta suck.

[quasi glade]

but it wont be. I can vouch for that.

[mortal lark]

dunno how it is in other zones, but if everyone is following the same plan, the incentive is easy, as everyone contributes, and everyone benefits

[quasi glade]

is there plan to mine titanium? if not wrong plan.

just sayin

[wild osprey]

Yeah but it's not incentivised but that isn't even the issue. The issue is you can't craft when there is no food, and you can't get food because you can't craft

It's a broken loop

[west slate]

again claimstakes fix a lot of that

[wild osprey]

I need to read up on that

[west slate]

this is not exactly designed to be a full internal loop yet

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-hell-yeah-oh-yeah-oh-really-excuse-me-gif-11637087054086707757

[west slate]

claimstakes generate r4 passivly

[wild osprey]

Do they input into the starbase passively as well?

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[west slate]

no but thats not necessary, as it means were not stuck without the ability to get things going

another thing is crew count, you need enough crew to produce food fast enough to put food in to produce food

[wild osprey]

So say for example I've got a million food. I should just put that into the css to get it going again?

[mortal lark]

basically, people need to stop looking at food and toolkits as a profit making thing anymore, it is a cost. The pricing of most things right now is abit lopsided, but it will equilibrate over time

[wild osprey]

Why would I do that. To earn LP?

[quasi glade]

I just eat too much food in real life. I'm conditioned to hoard all forms of food. real and digital. I know what it is like to be hungry and I would never do that to my crew....

[wild osprey]

The LP incentive is worse than SCORE

[whole moth]

1M food gets you 17min of craft at CSS

[quasi glade]

thats called being a real leader....

🙂

[west slate]

the point is to put it in to do other stuff that actually has profit

[mortal lark]

find out what your faction is doing, or what starbase the big guilds are focusing on, and feed your food into that one, and craft on that starbase. you don't even need to contribute that much, if you are just a solo small player, as the bigger coalition guilds will take care of the bulk of it for you

[west slate]

if your not able to do that perhaps its best to sell on the market

[wild osprey]

Hmm

[quasi glade]

big guilds need all the help they can get. lol

[west slate]

and again the fact that food imput is negitive means most people will just do the bigger crafts over in labs till that gets shut down, ie the problem is labs needs to finish out

[quasi glade]

yield gield is here. that is the corp.

they can afford food

[wild osprey]

So do we wait for big guilds to start a crafting operation and then hijack them?

[west slate]

yes

[quasi glade]

yes. in due time

[west slate]

we are in a transition phase we just need to chill and wait for it to clean up

[quasi glade]

they cant do what you cant do too.... or you both woould just be doing it.

[mortal lark]

I hear MUD is just abit disorganized, can always move Ustur if you like. atm MRZ 35 is pretty much operational all day

[wild osprey]

So for now we're just best off Mining raw resources and storing them at star bases, waiting for the right opportunity

[west slate]

or sell on the market

[quasi glade]

Thing is Im just mining right now. and building pilot xp so i drive better. All that other stuff is just noise.

[west slate]

or just craft in labs

[wild osprey]

Assuming solana works

It always breaks when america comes online

East Coast 9am

[quasi glade]

its 606 pm

[wild osprey]

Yeah I know. So in the uk I can get decent solana usage 9am-2pm

[quasi glade]

Ya. Im not sure when good time is. Or if.

[wild osprey]

Is what it is

I heard vpn into Japan can be quit effective

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-made-my-decision-robert-funny-pages-my-decision-is-final-ive-made-up-my-mind-gif-26442338

[west slate]

yep, thats what I'm doing

[wild osprey]

Or VPN into a part of the world where its their middle of the night

[west slate]

going to be honest here the rpc nodes are a much bigger overal issue when the network is congested then the network itself is

[quasi glade]

Im still getting blocked by tensor. Do any free vpn that work exist?

[wild osprey]

Yes it's very painful

[quasi glade]

sa is def part of the problem. if you view it that way....

I think of it as finding solutions

[wild osprey]

Clicking buttons which is supposed to trigger a tx and you're looking at the wallet in the browser tool bar hoping it pops up

[quasi glade]

im part of it and im an id

[west slate]

it is, the catch is were not big enough to actually finance our own rpcs

[quasi glade]

I hear that man. in time that may change. I think it will.

[west slate]

so the reliance on 3rd party solutions is just what it is

[west slate]

yep, the growth will come in due time

also the starcom fix should help once thats finished

and the player profile system will open up other playstyles and what not

[quasi glade]

I told my construction partner SA was going to change the world today. Im a bit dramatic sometimes. lol

[west slate]

so there are fixes in the pipeline we just got to wait

[wild osprey]

Is this update I've heard about coming out on the 15th something from SA or Solana

[west slate]

sol

[wild osprey]

Is this 'firedancer'

[quasi glade]

Hes grinding a sol faucet i just introduced him too 24/7 now. He found the glitch actually.

[west slate]

but our local validatior is unable to give any real details as to what it is

I grilled him on it already

[quasi glade]

Hes making more than me there.

I knew he would. I love it when a plan works. Hes been feeding me info back that is making it easier on me. lol.]

There is 28 validators on this faucet and he has got 5 percent of the pie already and just started grinding it like 4 days ago. He will be rich if he gets a grasp of what he is actually doing.

I cant tell you the faucet tho because i already scrrewed myself there by letting him in. Now my pie is smaller. lol

[desert beacon]

its a mainet faucet?

cap

[quasi glade]

I found it totally randomly. I works with roller coin a game I already grinded. It is like the best faucet ever. Im making cents everyday.... lol

yes main

dont google it. 🙂

I get drips in like 1000 different places right now. It will add up. And already has.

[desert beacon]

just buy dust in a bunch of random tokens and burn scam nfts

[quasi glade]

I have.

[spring granite]

hello, do you also have a problem with docking/undocking ships and other actions???...

[quasi glade]

I research alot bodhi. I remember how from college. It wasnt totally useless....

But not many construction workers have a degree. Ive underachieved mostly. This is all gonna change that.

You guys are helping and i thank you for that. I think Sa is gonna hit for all of us someday. Not far away.

And all i can think about is playing.

[desert beacon]

just gotta buy hold, but most importantly if your in alts you have to dca out when its overheated

if your in btc you dont need to sell

but if your in anything else you do

[quasi glade]

I profited pretty good during crash. I was amazed at myself. But i hear you sir. you are correct....

[desert beacon]

best to sell some btc too but you dont "have" to

[quasi glade]

nope

[late pollen]

Just send to burn address? I have like 100 or more scam NFT's in my wallet

[quasi glade]

all free. hold forever. just me.

[desert beacon]

close the accounts

[late pollen]

Sell at 150k

[late pollen]

By burning in Phantom?

[desert beacon]

idk prices, im better at dates

[desert beacon]

yea

i think, i dont burn nfts

[quasi glade]

2 mil

[desert beacon]

send then to a hot wallet first if your unsure

[quasi glade]

they dont even give rebates anymore on phantom.

[late pollen]

Are dates always similar each cycle?

[west slate]

also diversify

[quasi glade]

that was sweet

[desert beacon]

no, but there is a pattern to it.

[west slate]

depends, btc is going to hit a massive pump soon, likely that pump will last a while

[desert beacon]

🩸 🌕

fa

[west slate]

a lot of the current situation is about the western economy, btc will go up due to cost of production going up

[quasi glade]

And what happens after that class???

[west slate]

that will drag everything else with it for the most part

[quasi glade]

🙂

[late pollen]

Agreed. Check the stock to flow model. We are in the middle of the run. Each cyle this is the period of corrections and accumulation before the real run up and the hype part starts

[west slate]

right now thats a big ? as i doubt the next bear will be as deep

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-hynes-hynies-ding-ding-ding-we-have-a-winner-its-christmas-eve-gif-19820176

[west slate]

due to the actual inflation and what not in the west

[late pollen]

Thanks @desert beacon for the alpha

[quasi glade]

imagine.... 🙂

[quasi glade]

hitting our stride soon. my student loans will be wiped soon. guess where all that is going....

im just one person. but good things are happening sorta....

I actually have money in my pocket right now.... That hasnt been the case for awhile....

As I go, so goes the world....

lol

Although I will say the bag of Dorito's for 6 dollars has me concerned. I like those....

[serene willow]

And how's everyone doing tonight?

Is Galia still on strike?

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/jimin-win-park-bts-cute-gif-20781001

good mood i guess man....

It only took 15 minutes to start my mine. That is a win.

[serene willow]

It started

It's a privilege in these days...

[quasi glade]

yah. quicker than normally lately.... I was able to pound some ice cream with the spare time..... good stuff.

I mean eat. nothing sick.

Harder it is to get titanium for ppl the better in my eyes right now. Im the only ship i see....

[serene willow]

Lol

[quasi glade]

I have alot of resources stocked up. I am wasting gas to try and build pilot license mostly.

Based on how bad I suck at fps, I have to cator to my strengths, which have been racing in the past.

[mighty holly]

when fix for sage labs v1 and v2 ,

[civic forum]

can someone tell me when the old v1 and labs are going to be turned off. because i can see that the v2 labs works better than the new one starbase..

[quasi glade]

Unless Star Atlas Madden Mode is coming....

[west slate]

you mean when is it getting shut off?

[west slate]

sometime on the 16th

or 17th depending on time zone

[serene willow]

Never. It's ending in a few days

[civic forum]

and what happens if someone does not get his fleets out?

[serene willow]

It will all be there

The economic loops are ending

[west slate]

its gettting shut off as in no more emsssions, the website will still be up and all your assets will be there so you can finish exiting

[serene willow]

But you can still move resources and fleets out.
Crafting/scanning/mining will stop

[quasi glade]

You can still get resources out too if you mined already. At least from what i hear...

[west slate]

its on chain and the assets that your wallet has are yours

meaning we have technically forever to exit

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/madonna-yee-haw-cowgirl-dance-hips-gif-14455047

I think that is a good thing.

[low loom]

Is BASED offline?

[quasi glade]

dont think so. i just started mining.

[ionic vale]

Nah works fine. You'll need to make sure you're not using a trash RPC though

[quasi glade]

Is Silica an actual thing in real life?

[ionic vale]

Press F12 and make sure it says "Quicknode" as your RPC in the Console section of that menu

[ionic vale]

Yeah. Very common

[quasi glade]

what is it?

[sour hearth]

thevisionex has been warned

Reason: Posted a link

[ionic vale]

TIGUUUUU

[quasi glade]

Ill google it man. ty @ionic vale

[ionic vale]

It's a crystal, super common

[quasi glade]

ive heard of it. just dont remember.

I was gonna name my kid Titanium. I got over ruled.

I thought that would be a hardass name. 🙂

[ionic vale]

Kid would be called Tit in a minute

Not pronounced TIGHT either

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[placid isle]

Anyone knows what´s the purpose of this xp?

[quasi glade]

didnt consider that. lol

[ionic vale]

Eventually, Crew. Maybe not retroactively assignable, but mechanically needed to test

[quasi glade]

I do like them though. so not sure how bad taht is.... lol

[placid isle]

hmm ok this is council rank level

[quasi glade]

To be on the xp leaderboard?

[viral ridge]

Yes and licences.

[viral ridge]

Goals!

[quasi glade]

I love leaderboards. We need our profiles updated. And leaderboards.

[placid isle]

Well the only thing for now that limits crafting is the tier of the starbase, let´s see the use of the crafting licence in the future

[sour folio]

anyone else having trouble adding fuel to any of their fleets?

thats the only thing not working for me

[quasi glade]

This is actually something I have never read. ty @viral ridge

[viral ridge]

My bad, didn't cite my sources: from Aephia newsletter "A New Economic Paradigm"

And you're welcome!

[quasi glade]

Im not a professor. you should be ok. 🙂

[viral ridge]

That will be interesting how they work

[quasi glade]

Aephia is pretty reliable....

[viral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/whew-gif-3700345633382134440

[placid isle]

yes. I will move back to the old sage while is up. The cost of the food just completely destroys the crafting profit

And the LP reward system it´s just not worth it

let´s see what the team will do to balance this crucial points

[viral ridge]

I think the food is eaten up too quickly

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-game-gif-5580744

[placid isle]

the food consumption is based on the starbase tier. Of course CSS is max tier, 1K food p/second

even with the other points

125 food p/second with tier 1, stills kill most of the profits

[viral ridge]

Exactly

I'm relying on the titans to refill

But I'm sure they'd rather be doing more fun things

[placid isle]

yes me too, the problem is my crafting instance is almost 2 days on the css. I just can´t donate more food

[west slate]

ok so the fact is as food is a net loss on lp and we can still craft in labs thats exactly whats going to happen

[placid isle]

Yes, that´s because in the first 2/3 days the css was always full of food, and now is allways at 0. People moved again to sage labs

[west slate]

there is 0 financial incentive to craft in starbased right now for whales

[west slate]

does not matter, its about the financial incentive untill labs is done starbased food can't really be fixed

[viral ridge]

Just takes a bit of organization, dacs stepping up to rep a starbase, keep it filled with food

[placid isle]

Maybe the whales will move to another tier 1 mrz to craft. Probably you will have the same problem at CSS

Because is not everyone that have transport ships to craft in other MRZ, they will be relying allways on CSS

[west slate]

no amount of orginization will actually fix this, the lp earned from putting in food is worthless

meaning the whales will always go to labs

most others will also just go to labs

[viral ridge]

Worth a try tho

[sick rock]

Hey guys, I'm trying to withdraw one ship (last one enrolled) but I can't seem to make it work. The ship has 100% health but the transaction reverts during simulation.
Anyone has any idea how to make it work?

[low loom]

So Quicknode is the good one?

It says that's what I'm on.. but ships won't dock.

[worthy comet]

if it shows you the "reverted during simulation" error is most probably UI bug. first try refresh ctrl+F5

[low loom]

NM.. It finally docked

[weak gorge]

Where are all ships and resources in starbase gone after upgrading?

[sick rock]

No luck. I withdrew one ship 5 min ago and it worked. Do I need to keep one ship enrolled as a minimum?

[west slate]

if it asked you to upgrade the account that means it was trying to load the labs account

you need to go to the other account

the upgrade account is a bug

[weak gorge]

There is only one character to choose..

[quasi glade]

Everyone can go to labs. They have until the 16th. And then they will have to adjust again. Nothing is gonna be a straight line here.

Everyone complaining about LP and refusing. Great. That is when I jump in.

[west slate]

labs and starbased are seprate game ids, if your stuff is in labs then its not in starbased

[quasi glade]

But I get the concern. It doesnt seem like it is working as intended. But neither was America for the early Settlers.

Smart will work itself out.

[west slate]

I mean they wanted to do a clean shut off (or perhaps like 48 hours or some such)

but meme coin traders won out and here we are

[quasi glade]

they may have too. I get alot of ppl dont like it. I dont really all that much either. But most if not all my moves are consevative I think right now. There is alot to factor in.

https://tenor.com/view/we-adapt-or-die-janet-mcteer-helen-pierce-ozark-adapt-to-survive-gif-17019597

[west slate]

yeah the pure this is a test phase is done and now we are starting to get to the actual game but we are not out of the early pre alpha stages yet

[quasi glade]

Is nobody making money on sa right now>

somebody is.

[west slate]

did the math and everything but food/tool/sdus turned in for lp is profit

like fairly decent profit

[ionic vale]

Pretty sure in Based the margins are about 10% profit with ships that have to use Ammo, and 50% for Armstrong mining ships who do not, if you include Food cost loops

[quasi glade]

ya know...... and still lots of complaints. I would roll with it for awhile if i were them and see who rises to the top....

[placid isle]

Can you detail the calculations you´ve done? because on my side nothing gives me profit trading components for LP at the moment

[west slate]

the actual mined margins for direct to market would be profit, lp is still mostly profit

[west slate]

20k fraimwork for 1 mil lp at about 6billion turned in is better then the market price of selling the fraimwork

by massive margins

[quasi glade]

I have 20 k framework ironically.

[slow oriole]

As long as you have the transport to carry all that cargo. I personally struggle and just craft for the market, maybe later I will get some freighters to fix that. But you are right about lp profits

[west slate]

oh prices went up a bit

[quasi glade]

maybe your guild could help you there..... just a thought.

[placid isle]

1M LP comparing to the last epoch

[slow oriole]

Nah, I owe the guild) unless of course you want to join XD

[quasi glade]

guilds will probably be the real reason this works itself out. think empress mentioned that....

if you owe a guild you may not be doing it right.

[slow oriole]

Well, I spoke with a friend he also doesnt have freighter, no one has. I had one but sold, for the fimbul bikes and some millitary ships for the mercenary business

[west slate]

yep still very good profit margin based on mud yesterdays turn in

[quasi glade]

That was a strategic decision. Part of the game.

[west slate]

perhaps not so great based on the oni

but likely still better

[slow oriole]

Although when the fighting begins my fighters my start to get some nasty profits.

[placid isle]

at the moment you sell 20K Framework at the market by 1 640 Atlas

[quasi glade]

Not sure too many ppl are prepared for actual competition.

[placid isle]

well my error, i was seeing with one more 0

[quasi glade]

Just an fyi. You guys are fighting me for money.... I fight as hard as anyone you know....

this game is about alot of things. Competition will be fierce....

[slow oriole]

I am a merc, I dont think I want to do pirate stuff, I feel bad for the strugglers too, and hate the feeling of being an invader

[west slate]

yes 164 atlas, and mud 1mil lp was 250ish yesterday

thats a rather significant profit margin

[quasi glade]

I feel bad for the homeless. But I still have to find a way to eat too....

[west slate]

even oni should see a profit there

[quasi glade]

groups are stronger than 1. Groups will figure things out.

[placid isle]

accordingly to the last epoch in MUD, 1M LP would give you 252 Atlas

[slow oriole]

Well, I have merc enterprise and crafting company (small), if things go that bad then maybe, but I want to avoid confrontstion for as long as possible. Beside small ships can carry cargo too

[west slate]

exactly profit

[placid isle]

Yes for framework you do more profit

[quasi glade]

Its a strategy man. Maybe a great one. We shall see is all i am saying. Good luck sir.

[west slate]

that profit holds for everything but sdu, food, and tool kits

perhaps a bit less for the others have not done the actual math on them though

[placid isle]

Since im crafting power source, i was not looking for other components. So Im doing my calculations wrong for powersource

[west slate]

as they are worth more lp

[placid isle]

From my calculations, 1M Power source should give you 900K LP

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/its-hard-to-decide-bigmantingz-jordan-theaker-smite-hard-decision-gif-18018285

[tight hedge]

When will it be possible to withdraw resources and ships from the old version of SAGE?

[placid isle]

Anyone that traded power source for LP can confirm me this?

[west slate]

are you sure about that, power source should be worth more lp then fraimworks

like a lot more

[placid isle]

Since you said that everything gives profit except consumables, my calculations should be wrong

[west slate]

I just only know the numbers off hand for frameworks to do the math for them

also frameworks are the easeist craft

as its all just iron

[quasi glade]

i have 650 power source. Is tht enough to do numbers?

[west slate]

yeah, it tells you how much you would get without needing to commit

[quasi glade]

where

[west slate]

just move them to a starbase and act as if you will submit them then scroll down for the lp gains

[quasi glade]

gimme a sec

[placid isle]

guys forget it, this says how many LP it gives, just need to scroll down 😑

[west slate]

so each one is 90

so a bit less then 2x a framework

[quasi glade]

glad ya got it. mine arent showing up.... think our base is at 0 tho, so that may be why. who knows.

[placid isle]

So yes Jith, you right. Actually it gives huge profit the LP. I was just doing the calculations wrong

[quasi glade]

oh well here we go.... l;ol

So something eveyone was thinking is the exact opposite. Is that what I am reading? lol that is called balance....

Your awesome blade.

[west slate]

note how the whales were being quiet about the profits

[quasi glade]

Not gonna change my mind cuz i have a plan.... but good for everyone else....

whales are smart. Ill give them that.

and have accounted for it.

🙂

[west slate]

note they want us to turn around and just sell them stuff so they can gain

[faint prairie]

gm

[placid isle]

well this chat with you was very productive really. The problem now, buy some transport ships ahaha

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/see-it-all-works-out-in-the-end-its-okay-positive-vibes-it-is-what-it-is-dont-worry-gif-14534996

[quasi glade]

noted. and expected. 🙂

[slow oriole]

It's easily calculate, all you need to know what they do and how much they owe, perhaps i can do it roughly if you throw in the numbers

[west slate]

nah it would actually make sense for them to dump some stuff at a minor loss out the gate

[quasi glade]

He is THE numbers guy.... lol

[west slate]

as the amount of stuff they have would tank the market to try to sell

[quasi glade]

dont wanna do that.... 🙂

[slow oriole]

yes, and your talks here affected market slightly, so stop XD

[quasi glade]

lol

I plan to affect everything here.

🙂

I was the best pong player this side of the mississippi. you guys are toast. Start dealing with it.

🙂

[slow oriole]

Affect your profits perhaps in a positive way, that's a good plan I think

[quasi glade]

profits mean nothing. xp is life.

good luck with that.

[faint prairie]

ONI / MUD / USTUR lp info pls

[quasi glade]

gotta go guys. Have a great evening. or morning. or whatever.... peace

[slow oriole]

MUD 6,194,129,088 as usual

ending in 10 seconds

the rest are usually higher anyway

[topaz pine]

Oni 9B. I hope this message is clear. WE WILL FUCK YOU UP EVEN IF IT COSTS US.

[split solar]

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[low loom]

I base my profit on how much I cost you.. not how much I earned.

[west slate]

lol, very good way to get people to leave oni

[topaz pine]

When the war drums start beating... who do you really want by your side?

[west slate]

also that looks like break even numbers

[slow oriole]

The one with the titans XD

[west slate]

I'm ecos don't look at me, unless you want your planets terraformed

[slow oriole]

I mean I don't know, who owns those, but judging by top players...

[slow oriole]

UStur is 6,139,834,142 if you're woundering.

[desert beacon]

ROME

[west slate]

was not built in a day, however it did fall in a day

[cerulean hatch]

Oni is a circular firing squad

[slow oriole]

Honestly, those titans scare. I don't know the station's defence capabilities, but often what happens in free games is one faction crushing all the rest to the ground, then players begin to leave and devs interfere to fix the balance

[desert beacon]

thier tactics are effective iykyk

[cerulean hatch]

Long neck space goons

[west slate]

still the only benefit is they perhaps get more stuff a bit, does not help as anyone from mud or uster can create an account there to mine

as we don't know what the factions get regardless for winning starbased

[serene willow]

What happened to #freegalia ?

Ugh, busy weekend, kinda missed a lot, it seems...

[quasi glade]

Ever see the machine that subdues the dad in the movie Dune? That is who i want on my side. 🙂

Everyone in a guild will be alone at some point.

https://tenor.com/view/youre-banned-ban-natasha-wr-natasha-war-robots-war-robots-gif-23863002

[slow oriole]

From my observation, I think, that it is most likely that once the labs end, people (whales) will move to ONI to craft, then to MUD/Ustur to sell for LP. Unless something changes in LP or food, economy.

[slow oriole]

Oh, the Natasha? Missed that game)

[quasi glade]

what game is it? lol

[slow oriole]

Lol, I thought you knew, it's War robots

Pretty fun, like super lightversion of mechwarrior

[quasi glade]

haha. those are the exact words i used to search.... lmao

nice

[slow oriole]

it's pay to win though at last levels, I spend like 200$ on it, so don't recommend if you don't want to spend

[quasi glade]

welcome to sa fren

We are (or I am) trying to eliminate that sorta thing.

I like to suck at rocket league mostly on my spare time. lol

[west slate]

nah the team is watching this, there will be adjustments

[gritty laurel]

what happened with the R3 stucked in the Amstrong IMP that were lost? are we getting them back?

[lost rivet]

does anyone know if you have a Opod and use lab assist will it fill the ship w toolkits or not because it doesnt need them to scan?

[patent iris]

Let me known that ROME is WIILLING TO LOSE AN EYE to win any battle.

[serene willow]

This mechanics change on the 16th anyway

But it doesn't fill it with tools, currently

[lost rivet]

TY Lerinor, can we use lab assist for StarBased?

[serene willow]

They created the Starbased version already. It's a different script, though, need to install it separately.

[mortal lark]

Are you anticipating that data runners will use resources to scan after the 16th?

[serene willow]

I'd assume so. But with a much higher output of SDU

But maybe not...

But the entire mechanics of scanning seems to be changing drastically

(finally...)

[mortal lark]

I mean, personally I won't mind, but food is already in such high demand, curious if they will make it food as well or not (if they even do it)

[serene willow]

Yeah, tricky balancing issues we're facing right now

[mortal lark]

seems they will make it more like mining, in terms of fleet composition, you will have a scanning rate much like you have a mining rate now on fleets

[serene willow]

Yep

But still some more activity involved

As in, moving after better spots maybe?

[spring granite]

hello there is no food anywhere... practically no stations work for crafting

[rare garden]

whales ran out of food LOL

[tawny salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hunger-games-challenge-game-lets-play-im-ready-gif-15955094

[lost fiber]

Just like it doesn’t fill up Armstrong miners with ammo.

[versed wagon]

LP is a temp mechanic

[valid yoke]

Everyone is crafting in Labs still cuz it doesn't cost food in there

[west slate]

nah I think lp to a point is perminant, the way we use it for atlas emissions is more temporary

lp should continue into combat if I am not mistaken

just the only way to get it now is completly 1 sided

[versed wagon]

yeah LP itself could be permanent, but i was talking about the current mechanism of how its used to get atlas

[slow oriole]

I am not sure what you mean? LP is a clever way to limit $ loss for the company, as now they have a set limit, the RFR almost had no boundaries. Can you elaborate what you mean when you say its temporary, in what way?

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[west slate]

how does any of this effect atmta's bottom line, the atlas set aside for emissions is on paper not owned by the company

also rfr is within the emissions curve as well

rfr also had limits, the team had to manually put it up on the market place

atlas has set emissions, that honestly I don't think we are hitting, nor have been hitting for a while meaning there is plenty of atlas to distribute via these methods, none of this costs the team anything

lp epochs are supposed to go on for a while at least but when combat hits there will be a lot more reason to upgrade

[patent iris]

The RFR had a boundary which was the SDU limit.

[mellow sinew]

node down for based?

[wintry berry]

is anyone having trouble getting tx through in based ??

i cant get anything trough for hours but labs is working ok

[wet shore]

yeah its been tough

[wintry berry]

alright ill take a nap and try again in a few hours

[woeful oracle]

game is dead

[lost rivet]

hello yall, im having trouble when i search for ImGroovin in Github i dont get any results?

[gentle lodge]

7 more days of this at least for a) Labs to shut, and b) Solana patch... almost the same to the day.... Perhaps jumping to Based so soon is not the right move?

but can you imagine what is going to happen to performance the last 5 days as everyone slams SA to migrate from labs? Support through the roof... right before Solana "fix" drops...

[west slate]

only thing people should be doing in labs is crafting everything else should be in starbased

as crafting can be 100% done from the css so no exit scramble

[gentle lodge]

But even crafting... it took me 4 days to get out of score... another 3 just to get my MUD wallet to form up fleets and start mining...

And even then, mining is SLOW/Hard in Based...

and zero crafting...

[west slate]

yeah this transition is rough

[gentle lodge]

Yah.. it is rough enough, I am debating hard what to do with my Oni wallet...

[west slate]

hopefully they ether are able to just add combat and no new game id or they have a better way to transition

[west slate]

the wallet faction thing does not matter anymore though

[gentle lodge]

Yah, but with lp... having fleets in different factions can make a big difference... lol..

[west slate]

unless your using it to id the wallets for your own reasons

[west slate]

I mean any wallet can join any faction in game

the only conotation would be personal refrence at this point

[gentle lodge]

Not sure if I follow...

So, with different wallets/accounts, I can play Oni or MUD.

[west slate]

we can chose what faction we have with each new game id, I can swap to oni or uster if I wanted to when combat is out

without chainging the wallet

[gentle lodge]

I also can move assets via CSS to the different factions to get a percentage of LP where it is most advantageous, no?

[west slate]

yeah but the faction for the wallet won't extend beyond starbased

unless you want it to

ie we are not hard locked anymore

[gentle lodge]

I have not seen where I can just flip flop from a single account yet...

I have to have a seperate wallet...

[west slate]

when you entered starbased you could have changed the wallets faction

its locked for starbased and thats it

[gentle lodge]

Yes... but now I have three wallets/ids... one for each faction.

[west slate]

yeah I could do that myself if I wanted to

however I don't have enough stuff to bother

[gentle lodge]

Did this a LONG time ago for status and trading... never switched out or consolidated.. now with LP mechanic being a percentage share of total in per epoch, having 3 wallets/ids seems like a no brainer.

[west slate]

yeah rl stuff happened (one of my ledgers broke among other things) and I consolidated back to 1 wallet

[gentle lodge]

Just move assets to whatever gives you the best buy per epoch...

[west slate]

yeah but we don't know till like the last second

[gentle lodge]

Also means if you get bored being one race you can switch it up..

[west slate]

so it still requires having an lp pool everywhere

[gentle lodge]

LIke in UE5, I could play whatever character race I wanted to...

[west slate]

I'm mud for rp reasons

[gentle lodge]

What do you mean rp?

[west slate]

role play

[gentle lodge]

Ah.. I see...

I personally want to wear different skins... still waiting to see which looks better...

[west slate]

but end of the day I'm more ecos so its whatever

we can still have other races in our fleets

not like were locked on that end

[gentle lodge]

I wish that there was some form of customizeability for character looks/skins....

[west slate]

oh there will be, there is an oldish vid about that floating around somewhere

[gentle lodge]

It would also be nice to have some attractive MUD characters... lol...

[west slate]

like 6 months ago or something like that

[gentle lodge]

I thought from forums and stuff that when crew drops, each NFT/crew member will be unique... and have different rarities... so that implied to me that the appearance would be set...

versus optional like in some games..

[west slate]

yeah but 1 we are supposed to have at leas 1 avatar we can design (I don't think they rolled that back) as well as a ton of crazy customization options

[gentle lodge]

Would be cool if each crew/skin was a unique set of stats and outfit type, but you could mod race, gender and appearance...

[west slate]

dono if that will be out in the crew cards this round, although eventually we will need to be able to recruit crew in game

[gentle lodge]

Hmmm... maybe I am behind and missed some stuff... I thought we could jump into different crew members... kind of like fortnite with skins...

[west slate]

yeah, there was a bit a while ago in the fr and what not

right now I think they want the initall roll out of crew out of the way though

[gentle lodge]

There is so much we should be ripping off from Fortnite I think... that game is the largest revenue maker in video games and STILL has the largest active player base in history... plus all the folks we want to eventually win have grown up with it...

When we think of the FPS elements...

[west slate]

its got to be more complex though

as most will be npc bot types

[gentle lodge]

Yah... but in Surge there were some basic elements that I was jonesing for... like the way that in SURGE the reticle is off center... I get this was done so the character was in center... but it makes your aim trash... reticle should be center of screen...

character offset to the right... (most people are right handed).....

if we wanted to be nice, allow lefties to configure...

[west slate]

yeah still this is more about the stress test then it is about our skill

[gentle lodge]

Also... walk as defualt and set SOOOO SLOOWWWW.... practically useless in FPS...

Auto sprint is the way...

even sprint was slow... flying was the only way to move/cover ground fast enough...

compared to fortnight, I felt like I was in slow mo... and that my aim was nerfed... lol...

Dont get me wrong... I had a blast.. and it was beautiful....

I loved the graphics, the views.. the flying...

loved seeing the concept coming to life....

[west slate]

I mean for an exhibition demo thing to show off the shooty concepts on top of the stress test it was good, but yeah as an actual fps game it needs work

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[gentle lodge]

FPS stuff we should not reinvent the wheel..take the category killers and adopt what they have perfected... lol...

[low loom]

I played Surge with a GTX 970... no lag

[west slate]

still if its supposed to be more rpg and less twitchy this would kind of work

[gentle lodge]

I cant wait until they combine Surge with the flying elements... imagine what surge would have been like if you could grab a ship in the middle of the chaos?

Super cool...

[west slate]

but with blank characters its a twitchfest right now so

[west slate]

we could sort of interact with the terminals, but no spawning ships

but it is half way there, I think they want the base stress done first

[gentle lodge]

Fortnite has had a few seasons where they spawn vehicles like bi-planes... It would be bad arse if they spawned the map with like 10 fighting ships hidden on the map... with the ship types aligned to the factions....

first come/capture first serve...

take all the flyers out... lol...

[west slate]

yeah but not enough ships out yet to do that in a balanced way

[gentle lodge]

even better if the ships are medium... so your squad could take stations on the ship and man flight, bombstation and turrets... lol..

[west slate]

its still very skewed to certain factions in each size cat

[gentle lodge]

Yah.. as a half MUD half ONI, I have always lamented the mix.. and the price challenge around Ogrika...

for my ONI half at least... lol.

My MUD half is happy... lol...

Sadly I went in heavy at our height.. and went more Medium with a few larges... so have no capitals at all... I have never sold anything and have been DCAing to get whole on my ships... but man... I want a capital... the lack of crafting is what is a bummer to me in labs and now based...

I want to build my assets in game... (as I am not selling).... more through grinding the assets and crafting... less through day trading.. but that is an old argument I know I cant win... to many traders at heart... not enough gamers at heart... yet, at least...

Seeing Surge gives me hope that the worm is turning...

[gaunt zealot]

Anyone having trouble connecting to regular sage labs the map is showing completely empty

[opal rain]

🚨daily report 👉 #🐤┃community-tweets message

[west slate]

yeah early on its about trading later there will be more

[pulsar moat]

Would you trade your mediums for a capital as your main

[gentle lodge]

Not for a long while methinks... our brain is locked on trading... the synchs are to build shared stations.. not our own... and crafting ships is purposely nerfed to be off the table for now... so all we do is flip widgets to one another... hoping to self sustain/make a buck of the trade..

[low loom]

CRTL F5 to refresh.

[gentle lodge]

It comes down to preference... and I struggle with that badly... as I am underwater on my mediums and larges...

but I have been very tempted to do that...

has to be OTC obviously...

[pulsar moat]

What Capital ship are you looking into

[gaunt zealot]

Think it’s the thunderstorm where having bad signal lol

Speaking of signal what ever happen to him?

[gentle lodge]

I should be looking at stats, but for my main, right now my favs inorder are the C9, Guardian, Jod, and a tie between the bomberalla and a ballad...

for function, though, I should order... C9, Ballad, Guardian, bombarella, and then Jod...

I have been hoping to craft or earn enough money from other projects/coins to buy a capital for my main... or somehow craft up... The crafting up did not work, due to bots, automation, and whales... good stuff always cleaned up/dissapeared... or required using automation. We will see if the market outpaces SA assets...

At some point, i may have to "restart" and take a loss on selling/trading my Mediums to get a capital and then earning my way back to the Mediums...

hard, like I said... i want to game... not flip...

[pulsar moat]

For Function yea the fighters will be big when combat arrives

[gentle lodge]

Its funny.. but I dont want to even be a big fighter.. I want to own stations... and enable trading... I have been building my fleet to defend my holdings... hence wanting the fighters first...

at the capital level that is...

Right now for larges I have 2 R8s, 1 Thripid, and 1 greenader...

[pulsar moat]

Nice fleet,

[gentle lodge]

I wanted the MUD L fighter that could be crafted... but by the time I earned up enough Materials, they moved the bar and made them uncraftable.. I was super bummed... after crafting that long to get taken out of the running... lol...

[formal jungle]

Wtf is this!?? I cannot,connect my wallet in phone browser

[gentle lodge]

Performance is super sucky right now frend....

I am chatting, as i cannot even see my fleets in based to stop them from mining.. I truly hate to say it, but playing Based is nearly impossible... at least from my end... I get lucky with a few mining loops a day... maybe one or a max of three... so far...

Curious how labs is going... from the few comments I hear it is running smooth with lower fees...

[valid yoke]

All I know is Lab Assistant is much slower than I expected

I figured it would be at least a similar speed to a human 😛

[gentle lodge]

Are you running it in labs or based?

[pulsar moat]

Based is super fast for me compared to labs

[valid yoke]

based

[pulsar moat]

In trying to learn lab assistant now, can I use that in based?

[gentle lodge]

Right now, i cannot even see my fleets load up...

scarey to have your ships dissappear...

even when you know it is probably performance related...

[solid dagger]

Is anyone running a 4 crew 4 ship fleet of xxsmall. Is that even possible?

[cyan tundra]

gm

hi just want to ask whats is the burning mechanism in SA, to avoid Axies mistake? what differs you to axie?

[low loom]

You could probably automate hydrogen mining at the CSS with that small of a fleet, but it wouldn't hit the 10 SDU cap for scanning so I wouldn't recommend.

[steady sinew]

when crafting stops due to the base running out of food, restarts or continues where it left off when the base receives supplies again?

[low loom]

Sorry, reread.. it continues where it left off.

[cyan tundra]

hello! hi just want to ask whats is the burning mechanism in SA, to avoid Axies mistake? what differs you to axie?

[west slate]

read the econ paper

#🔗┃links

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[celest flare]

where do I learn about sage labs ? I don't understand 💩

[west slate]

there are some guides in #📺┃content-creators

[cold ledge]

https://aephia.com/star-atlas/starbased-the-missing-manual/

https://support.staratlas.com/sage#starbased

[celest flare]

gracias ! 👍

[thorny lagoon]

v3.0.30 is live, refresh your browsers

[formal jungle]

I cannot run it on my mobile 🥲😞

Not posible to accept

[cold ledge]

try lower the textsize in the device, also there was an update for scrolling that menu, when did you last time clear the cache?

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/gm-gm-vikings-eternal-vikings-eternal-vikings-nft-gmnft-gif-26844015

[formal jungle]

I run it on phantom browser , i cannot see any options about that

[thorny lagoon]

My new fav setup for Galia expanse map for non-scan setup:

1. Resources - color based and richness based indicated by color code and number for the richness. Single colors means single resource, two colors are two resources.
2. Starbase upgrade percentage and stat - indicated by text label.
3. Starbase maintenance - indicated by the left ( food ) and right ( toolkits ) fill meters
4. Station to station traffic ( does not show fleets going for SDU scans ).

https://atlas.eveeye.com/?m=Galia Expanse&o=nodeout_blk,node_r,tag_none,sector_none,con_none,sub_sb,etag_sb_mnt,traffic_sts,dark

Looks pretty neat, Risingson did an amazing job once again:

[cold ledge]

device settings

[atomic bramble]

Looks good! Love this tool

[clear forge]

ONI is overcrowded. Redeeming LPs is definitely better in other factions at the moment 🥲

[patent iris]

And we're just getting warmed up.

[clear forge]

Not sure if I should be happy about that 😅 ...and I am ONI as well

[patent iris]

ROME is sending a message. We are willing to hurt ourselves to win.

[clear forge]

Let me understand, what's the point? to upgrade faster? Until pvp is not on what's the rush?

[rapid fulcrum]

GM ☀️

[patent iris]

Scare out the people that don't belong.

[clear forge]

Ah, I understand... aim for depopulation😅

[atomic bramble]

Send your unwanted population to MUD pls

Ustur is good atm

[deep stream]

so i tried claiming my POLIS in the DAO and then re-extended the period. The locked token amount increases, but the estimated reward doesnt change. its i believe the third day in a row that this happens. it seems like the tokens get added but the lock period doesnt get extended. anyone experiencing the same?

[cold ledge]

i think you have to do a hard refresh

dao site never refreshs for me

[deep stream]

i play starbased, hard refreshes are hardwired in my brain and my first go-to solution to any problem i encounter

[cold ledge]

you mean the graph?

it should update today?

[deep stream]

thing is, i can re-extend the lock period without tokens and it shows the new anticipated next reward, but this tx never goes through

[cold ledge]

cant remeber its not a preview i think

[deep stream]

normally after i extend the estimated number below moves up and becomes next rewards drop

[cold ledge]

ah this one

cant even claim atm

[deep stream]

ok i guess i do what i always do when things dont go through in the DAO, just come back next day

[cold ledge]

oh wait i claimed but it did not refresh

[sick rock]

Hey guys, I'm trying to withdraw one ship (last one enrolled) but I can't seem to make it work. The ship has 100% health but the transaction reverts during simulation.
Anyone has any idea how to make it work?

[cold ledge]

you have toolkits in the inventory, also with the solana congestion you might have to retry a few times before the txn goes through

[sick rock]

No toolkits, I'll try, thank you

[sick rock]

It worked, although health was at 100%, I was missing 1 toolkit, thank you sir 🙏

[hallow zinc]

Hello!
Is there any option to delete starbased profile? Now i am have 10+ useless profiles (created when solana congested)

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[cold ledge]

not at the moment, stick to one of them for now

[shut bramble]

hi

[cold ledge]

gm, grandma

how is hawaii

[shut bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/v-a-sly-racoon-gif-1059878024555900171

[shut bramble]

what is hawaii i only see my computer all day

[cold ledge]

ah same here

its getting warmer tho

[shut bramble]

do you like warmer?

[cold ledge]

i should go out at some point

[shut bramble]

or you can freight more

[cold ledge]

not really the fans in the pc getting louder and i sweat all day

[shut bramble]

your poor pc

time to build a new one hahhahahhahah

[cold ledge]

i would like to craft a bit, but our css is never working, and i guess if i move to another station that one stops to

maybe i should go back to labs or something

[shut bramble]

so you're saying you're the reason crafting doesn't work?

[cold ledge]

nah just that im to lazy to go to another station for it

the faction has to decide more fuel spend or make the food sacrifice

https://tenor.com/view/survivor-srbija-survivor-hrvatska-nika-survivor-nika-rakic-sees-food-gif-25699781

[shut bramble]

more fuel spend?

[cold ledge]

well if people dont craft at css they spend fuel instead of food to move things

also time i guess

gonna be interesting to see what happens after the 16th

[shut bramble]

oh that makes sense

[cold ledge]

also people might just go to another faction to craft

[shrewd thorn]

when will be fixed the issue in starbase about the double transaction for stop mining=

?

[shut bramble]

oh yeah mike was telling me about that

[mortal lark]

If you are in Ustur, seems MRZ-35 is the current operational one for crafting

[cold ledge]

yeah but i have to transport

which is an issue for me

[shut bramble]

why so far?

[cold ledge]

https://atlas.eveeye.com/?m=Galia Expanse&s=MRZ-24&o=nodeout_blk,con_none,node_sb_lvl,sub_sb,tag_sb_upg,etag_sb_mnt,sector_none,dark

[mortal lark]

don't ask me, lol, that was the general consensus from the Ustur collective

[shut bramble]

aiya who made these decisions

[cold ledge]

thats strategic for crafting other things faster

[atomic bramble]

Ust4 has good progress on upgrade, shorter for smaller players. But upkeep seems to be prioritizing 35 so far

[shut bramble]

i dont understand

[cold ledge]

cant tell aephians about it they multifaction

cant be trusted

[shut bramble]

....

https://tenor.com/view/who-me-gif-14906421967915870271

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/we-cant-trust-you-branch-skylar-astin-poppy-amanda-leighton-gif-18083029

[mortal lark]

strategy doesn't really matter currently, trying to conceal what you are doing is irrelevant anyway, all the information is globally accessible because blockchain.

[dark seal]

Doesn’t mean we gotta make it easier for them tho

[cold ledge]

now you learn when combat comes you need to be ready

[shut bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/fair-true-right-correct-okay-gif-11120473

[dark seal]

Make them search

[atomic bramble]

Yes but takes effort to pull 😂

[shut bramble]

yes make it easier for me

[mortal lark]

I just setup shop on MRZ-35, not much transporting to do. Not to mention that maxhog transporting is pretty OP

[dark seal]

Play.Staratlas.com/marketplace

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-gif-12630246204739953139

[shut bramble]

unthank

[rapid field]

there is a major design flaw in the mechanics of starbased! How do you convince everyone to shift over to a new system that wil earn pennies compared to the previous labs c rfr system???

[dark seal]

Thak you

[shut bramble]

LOL

[shrewd thorn]

richness 150 so you can mining iron faster with less food and ammo; you can then craft directly framework on it and so use it for upgrade; furthermore you can come back in css with nitro for when you will craft aerogel

[dark seal]

Marketplace. Don’t play lp game

[shut bramble]

^^ SEE someone who is helpful thank you

oh man i forgot about the new resources

[cold ledge]

he made it to the traitor list now, aiding other factions 🙂

[shut bramble]

aiya

[atomic bramble]

SAI is multifaction though

[shut bramble]

aren't you the community memver of the year or something

[dark seal]

Was*

[shut bramble]

what's SAI now?

[shrewd thorn]

for futher details you can use https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1225119095771631616 😉

[atomic bramble]

They made a full swap?

[dark seal]

He got his award so now he can act normal again

[shut bramble]

i can't read

[dark seal]

I think I saw it on Twitter or something a few weeks back

[shut bramble]

LOL vb rugged us

[atomic bramble]

@shrewd thorn Did SAI go 100% Ustur?

[dark seal]

Make vb great again

[dark seal]

I thought oni?

[cold ledge]

who did actually buy it

i wanted to say thx

[dark seal]

@silver wing 🔥

Heim njord

[atomic bramble]

I know who

[cold ledge]

oh its in heim

[dark seal]

Whichever the one is

[cold ledge]

wow nice

[cold ledge]

thx heim

[shut bramble]

voldemort?

[dark seal]

Yeah and for a really solid amount too. Great community

[atomic bramble]

1k i think

[shrewd thorn]

yes as SAI we are multi faction but internally we have a SAI leader for each faction

[dark seal]

Yeah

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-way-gif-24547692

[atomic bramble]

Gotcha, thanks

[shut bramble]

woohoo multifaction!

[dark seal]

Didn’t you guys announce a few weeks back going to one faction? Or was that April fools joke

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/office-ryan-notebook-check-gif-14335879

[shrewd thorn]

no, and indeed the ustur part is probably the smallest in SAI 😦

[atomic bramble]

We announced moving to mud, some people were really mas about our lack of loyalty

[cold ledge]

wait grandma i can help you

[dark seal]

Funny how people actually believed that 😂

It’s like @late condor saying he’s going oni

[shut bramble]

i would love to go to bed but i have to freight

dammit

[atomic bramble]

Hahah yeah xD

[dark seal]

Still the best 😂

[atomic bramble]

Its time to detatch and commit 100%!

[shrewd thorn]

No we never said to going to be one faction 🙂 I add in loop also our SAI multi-faction leader @random rapids

[atomic bramble]

[dark seal]

Maybe I’m thinking of someone else in the international community then but it wasn’t on your Twitter

Also haven’t smoked weed in 7 months so brain isn’t fully functional

[rapid field]

another ? will the play.staratlas section still contain claim stakes?

[dark seal]

Claim stakes yes, just can’t stake miners now for r4

[desert beacon]

Way to prove you’re not a factionist. Believe it or not I’m not a factionist either I have friends who are mud

[dark seal]

You are the biggest Factionist I’ve ever met

You are THE factionist

[desert beacon]

How can I prove I’m not without factional appropriation?

[dark seal]

You can’t

[desert beacon]

[dark seal]

You can lie to us but you can’t lie to yourself

[rapid field]

thanks #ROME | Ghaz Outro

[dark seal]

Deep down you know you are a major factionista

[atomic bramble]

Whats a factionist? My norwegian dumbass no understood 🤣

[desert beacon]

It’s like a racist but for factions

Very frowned apon

[atomic bramble]

Oooh hahah well

Think im a factionist

[desert beacon]

🎯

[dark seal]

It’s accepted because you are honest about it

[desert beacon]

Damned if you do damned if you don’t

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-you-my-brother-homie-gif-16285122

[dark seal]

If you just admit it then everything would be ok

Just three little words

[desert beacon]

Im a factionist?

[atomic bramble]

If theres any doubt im an Ustur til death supporter, they certainly dont know who i am

[dark seal]

Is that a statement or a question

[random rapids]

Multi faction. Never changed 🫡🫡🫡🫡

3 Faction Leader
1 coordinator

[woven stump]

https://tenor.com/view/star-atlas-ustur-gif-24590157

[atomic bramble]

What i read is 4 traitors

[desert beacon]

Idk yet I’m still trying to figure myself out. Maybe come the 16th I’ll grow into my prejudices.

[dark seal]

Someday guilds will become the factions

[desert beacon]

Bruh Rome already did lol

[dark seal]

We need to rally and wipe out the COP to free ourselves from their injustices

[atomic bramble]

Relief yourself of this burden, let me take command of your fleets and rest in my luxury Ustur garden home.

[dark seal]

We can probably live off of our polis emissions but human nature drives us for more

[desert beacon]

Ngl I thought about how much of a relief and a nightmare it would be to get hacked lol.

[dark seal]

Although I think bohdi is in Cali which means you can’t even live off of polis emissions + lp pool

[desert beacon]

Thinking to relocate honestly

[dark seal]

I’ll gladly accept 1% of your fleet if it will relieve you

[desert beacon]

Just gotta make sure the time zone is good for epochs

[atomic bramble]

Well not me thats 100% for sure 😂

[dark seal]

Central Europe was the best move I ever made 😂 western US is insane

Well epoch is 1 am but oh well

[desert beacon]

In Europe it’s 1 am?

[dark seal]

And Russia is 2 years away from our border

[desert beacon]

That makes sense Zulu is in Europe

London if I remember correctly

[dark seal]

The end of the epoch I think it’s 1 am my time

[desert beacon]

Dam

[random rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-meme-girl-uhmmm-what-gif-25262488

[dark seal]

Yeah I think it’s London time

[desert beacon]

Yes Zulu is London time. Like how did they score that?

[atomic bramble]

Haha yeah i think sometimes it would be nice if web3 vanished 🤣 my normal bedtimehour was 2200-2300, now its 01-0200

[dark seal]

I think Michael wanted to make it end right before his bed time

[atomic bramble]

Just messing around, just the whole faction loyalty messing about 😅