#👽┃general
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Europe is super smooth at the moment
how come i cant do nothing for the past 20 hours its simply not responding to anything , i can connect and after that it doesnt interact with the wallet at all
You’re probably stuck on hellomoon
Clear cache and keep refreshing until your rpc is anything but hellomoon
Also what country?
I’m in third world Europe and it’s so smooth with no vpn
Germany cleared yesterday but still dead
thought it was an issue with solflare but it does connect and after that simply no response
on wich side labs or starbased?
latest version on wallet could it be Chrome ?
I use phantom and brave
I remember in the past a lot of people had issues that used chrome but there was a lot of debate about it because almost everyone used chrome so it was hard to determine if it was a factor or not
Hello guys, how to play for this coming surge?
Don’t take DMs
Get a key and redeem on the epic games store
Last step
Also click f12, go to “console” and look at the very top. Just make sure your rpc isn’t hellomoon
its been fixed
where at he top ?
The very top. First thing it shows is what rpc you are using
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot redefine property: ethereum
at Function.defineProperty (<anonymous>)
at <anonymous>:2:8
do you know what this error is ?
No idea. Are you connected to metamask at all?
Then I’m stumped. I’m not a computer nerd I just picked up these things from the smart ones
have like 4 errors only 1 is fetching issue other one is network
Ignore the errors, just look at the very top to see what rpc
yep its a same quicknode rpc starcomm after it
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If it’s Quicknode and you are in Germany then idk what the issue is tbh
I’m in Hungary and market is working with one try, based is working with one try so idk
thats the issue i do connect into game and after it its simply dead apsolutely no response or allowing any move from wallet as its not interacting with the game ?
just read few errors mostly multiacc issue and network so will have to wait i think
Are you playing manually? Give phantom a shot, also turn on priority fees in game too. It’s better than phantom fees
I am evacuating my starbases in labs
hey guys how can I move my fleet from sage labs to starbase?
export to wallet
import to based
you have to spamm and refresh till the txn goes through
feel free to #ticket but these issues usually temporary
solana and some rpc have still issues at the moment
I stoped playing starbase cause of this issue 😛
it runs a bit better in based
and went back to labs?
sorry I want to say that I stop playing labs cause of this transaction issuie
Based is so so much better and smoother
yeah me to like i was a month in faction fleet
but based is much better at least for me
I am mining for 957 hours :))
took me weeks to get out of labs
I will spam that button, every 1 min for the next hour
if dosent work will make a ticket
thank you 😗
do a hard refresh in between sometimes the ui doesnt update
thanks
are you the one who added me to friend list and DM me or is an imposter of you?
Scammer, report to discord if you can
take the message and report to discord directly
:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X
they lurk here with alt accounts cant ban then
l;ove you all
so discord has to take em down
Now get that into based while you have the chance 😂
yes sir!!!
I still need to warp back to base :))
When you withdraw from labs do one item at a time, easier
Can I sell Hydrogen for Atlas in Starbased v3.0.23 ?
do I have to move my resources as well?
export the hydrogen to the wallet
then sell on the market
yes
Sweet thanks
I've been having an issue the last couple of days where when I try to do an action the thx confirmation popup from the wallet does not appear (I don't have the auto confirm enabled and I'm using Solflare). Someone else having this issue?
Omg hackers are on fire today
thx
24/7
They never sleep
how do I report this?
so i think best is to accept take a message
and then report the message to discord
so discord can ban him
coz we cant they not on the server
they have alt accounts watching here
after reporting maybe ask if we can help him escaping the slave camp he is working in
like no normal people would do such a job
You were right again vb. My numbers didn't actually add up when I got home from work.
Blade helped me figure it out.
well im even more confused now with the xp it looks like this now for me
but how now i have this
If that was a word.
must be bugged
Have u ever got more than 40k in 1 day?
no i started day 2
so i missed that weid xp thing
but these 4 xp were capped for 2 days
like now its 47k in mining
i thought it showed daily
or does it shows totals?
im confused
Totals. But cap is daily
Yeah. Took me awhile to soak in.... lol
i get it now
still want someone with the numbers figured out like what gives how much xp with each of the ships or something
a list or something would be nice
also for the lp
Yeah. Keep looking into it. I wanna know for sure. Haha
I'm just relieved LP doesn't have anything to do with it.... 🙂
It is a bug, total cap does not work right: https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1225415543264247839
Laba V2, the little icon to track your fleet is not visible anymore..... is it normal? cannot interact with Fleet?
same with me, this is overcommitted total xp from crafting that I got:
whens the faction fleet and faction claim gonna be fixed?
Man NGL, this is kinda dogshit
dont say its solana it is not, solana is working on everything i use
CSS ran out of food at USTUR, can't build more food. 84 hour craft, stopped at 50+ hours in
(Yes, I could have done less at a time, but now I can do none at all)
you have to spamm a few times to get the txn through also do hard refreshs in between
fleet is not profitable
you should start playing based
maybe try changing the server if you use a vpn
no vpn
in based, is there a easy way to see where your ships are. I´m talking about disbanded, single ships.
Ships are available on the top right of the screen
rofl the claim just wenr and worked... such timing
hangar form fleet maybe
excactly...you have to go through hangar -> form fleet to see if you have ships in there
fleets are availble on top right , not single unused ships...
all is well the fleet just worked as well 💯
@cedar compass the only way to see unused ships is via hangar form fleet? or did we miss something?
Well your active ships/crews are in the top right. All active functions. If you have a disbanded ship, you can re-enable it in the CSS, assuming you don't have a crafting job going somewhere
holy crap, finally my miners stopped (only took 17 hours!)
This food situation needs to change its crazy. I cant even craft anymore. I think crafting needs to change to single persons contribution per craft or food needs a massive loyalty point buff maybe as it gets low or something.
Please how to find your fleet in labs? no icon anymore to locate your fleets..
Just doing the math on how fucked Food is rn. HAHA
In order to make 100k Ammo, using only mined materials:
I need the USTUR CSS online for 2.5 hours. The CSS is out of Food. It is queued for 922 Food/second in crafting jobs.
This means I need to supply 8,298,000 Food, in order to craft 100,000 Ammo.
Spending 17,425.8 ATLAS, plus crafting fees, to get the pleasure of being able to mine Food again.
Good morning guys! Can I get an ELI5 on how to do the self referral thing? 🙈
Yeah, kinda inconvenient. Gonna work something out.
I have crew / ships sitting idle in stations waiting for resources to start crafting, i´d like to have an quick overview where the ships are parked
Hi. I cannot get character started on starbased. I enter name and nothing happens. Have set name a few times now and it is. Actually eating my Sol.
Has taken. 05 Sol off me just now for mebbe 3 Ttempts
gracias !
hold ctrl + press f5
you might have one already
just the ui did not update
Oh yes
Is there any way to get the. Sol bavk
I have tried a few times like this daily
you sure you lost the sol? coz on chain it might look different, check on solscan
feels free #ticket
It doesn't show in solscan. But my wallet does??
just in the preview?
well but it just shows the preview of the txn, not the txn
you have to check on chain what happened
It took .05sol in 3 transactions
Trying to set name I already had??
Same yesterday
Worth it to play Starbased? Haven't tried everything yet but with it seems to me that it has become way more difficult to make the same rewards with all the transactions fees in play? Yes with LP you get somewhere.. but man it takes forever to get to the same rewards as Score. Any tips?
mine and try to craft
do the ticket and let a team member check
if you really paid the fee you created 3 accounts
Essentially. Have to check back. But priority fees on yesterday 5 x. 015 Sol name attempts. Non refunded. Should I write ticket?
It let's you create multiple accounts for same wallet?
if you spamm it maybe
its hard to craft, there is no food in css🫣
again do the ticket, i doubt you paid that sol
they faction has to decide on which station to craft
also no food in starbase, its too hard to keep going
Oh wow so I log in now after ctrl f5 I have now auto when connect wallet
I now have 6 available in select a character dropdown
Is there any use for this?
stick to one of them
i have 3 as well
no way to delete them atm
Can I write ticket to claim back others, are they.. 015 Sol each?
not 100% if thats possible #ticket darwiin will know
I do have a mud one and an oni one , any possible use for that?
depends if you want to use multiple, i think its better to stick to 1
I'll write darwiin
it worked guys I am back to mining :X :X :X thank you all for the support
Gm vb! Was it you that created something on how to check if your account is already referred to a buddylink?
I remember something like that... Or was it Dom?
Quick Guide to Check Your Current Starpath Referral Link
Yeah! Awesome, thanks!
Are there usefull links to finds which route to take towards profit..... feels like a pay to play game to me now 🤣
So, if I have the referral set up, all I need to do is purchase something? It already accounts for the referral?
ask in #📊┃economics
so you see the 10% on the marketplace?
Yeah! It showed up
i usually use a separate browser with new wallet for is
should work then if the referral link is right
Thanks man!
@cold ledge is there a way to delete character?
not really
Well... If marketplace allows
in theory yes, but have not seen someone figuring it out
Cheap Imp Tips 😮
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My answer was better.
Hey man thanks for what you guys do for community. We love you guys and appreciate it
GM ☀️
Cancel & Withdraw is Broken
How can I add crew here?
I tried disbanding my fleet, but is it not available in other Starbases rather than CSS?
Oh i did it now sorry lol
Much appreciated! We're just happy to contribute.
I love you. ❤️ In a manly way.
Where can i see current crafting orders?
i sow some wine, where is the olive tree roman?
Loving the new starbased tbh.Its now running much better for me but still needs refreshing all the time but atleast txs are going through.Whales can battle for LP and others can sell straight to the markets.Looking forwards to more updates and for solana to become more stable
Its great that strbased has a competitive element now,compared to labs atleast
i love starbased but cannot say its running smooth today, 2/10 at best
My crafters are stuct at the CSS , impossible to withdraw crafting
Hi, I got a problem, I finish my fuel and I'm on UST-4, it says I can refill my ship only in CSS, what can I do?
think ahead next time and always have emergency fuel at the starbase you are operating
you can unload your ships and self-destruct though, then you will respawn at CSS and can refuel
Transport a fuel there or disband a fleet paying 150 atlas
disband wont help, self-destruct if you dont have any ships that can bring fuel to 4
No olives here. Almonds, a ton of different fruit, and 40 rows of grapes
Olives would be nice but I don’t think they grow here
The crafting model is now dead. There is no choice but to play ilv now.
Anyone else having trouble exiting mining? It's been like this since last night, just get stuck mining even after resources are claimed.
Good morning you food guzzling crafters 👋
Can I buy a mod where my crafters eat iron ore?
I assumed that's what was going to happen for Usturs
exactly! this is absurd!
They eat iron ore and it adds to their belly
if vine and almond grow, i think u have the climate for olive too. keep farm pal!!!
UST shouldn't have to feed crafters food. I demand a rebalance 🤣
Yes me too, refresh is our friend ...or not...
Well shit I’ll have to try it, thanks. I’m new to Europe, so much to learn about the different climate
im a farmer in italy, drop friend request if you have any question happy to help other farm lover 🤟
I just got chills. I saw someone elses ship AND their cargo and I was like... "Holy shit if there was combat I could blow them up and take their shit."
(also they are very inefficient, kek)
GM Fellas 🐙 🎩
You’d be at a loss to conquer them 
Sent fr 
Imagine if you could take and claim their ship 
Can you help me?
Where can I find the Claim Stake Tier 1 return in detail? and others...
thanks @turbid geode
Is there an ONI chat to discuss strategy?
you need the oni role
top left under channels and roles
are we having issues atm with based? I'm trying to undock one fleet or move my other fleet, nothing is changing, no prompt as well if it has errors
I dont find it..care to share channel link please?
Found it
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if i have unoccupied crew can i send them to help upgrade a starbase without committing any resources?
Nope
Are people still putting 1 of each thing in their inventory to mitigate rent account creation?
ATLAS prime isn't even enabled right now.
Is there issues with faction stake claims? I logged in today to claim R4 resources and it’s saying I have none.
Do you have IMP's in there?
IMPs?
Are you talking about the ships?
Yes Armstrong IMP
I do not, I’m referring to claimstakes
The faction claims, not the fleets but the tiered claimstakes
In that case, everything should be working fine.
So likely due to network congestion not loading my claimstakes?
Oh yeah it’s the network I can see em now
I didnt even know this was a thing. They werent bringing anything else worthwhile. like 80 food. very strange.
“Failed to join room” in starbased. Anyone else?
refresh
is always the ansqwer
Yes, tried that. Same thing though.
yep, seems like that
reset cache? what version are ytou on?
i'm thinking its smart way, i mean when you need to close/create rent account - sometimes TX not work with current Solana issues
i think way easy when you not close/open accounts each time*
so whats the plan? always deposit 1 less then you have?
i guess they were coming back from a trip then.
do not withdraw all xd, save like 1 to not close/open rent again xd
😄
Cache fixed it. Arghhhhhhhhh!!!!!
isnt it exactly the same? like it doesnt cause a new tx to close an account
@clear meteor Is this actually a useful thing? Leaving 1 of each cargo in your freighters so you arent constantly opening/closing new accounts?
in my experience with SDU - was better to save on fleet like even 1 SDU to not close/open all them token accounts, idk
of course
while you have at least 1 res
you will not close rent
so?
that mean when you will deposit again - you will not open rent again
yes.... but it all washes out
that mean your TX will be maybe a bit more easiest 😄
idk how to do that in SLY, but i think Groove can easy do that 😄
but when it's like RED FLAGS everywhere - i don't think it will work 😂
Solana dead, based work, labs work, but for me only manually xd
i'm playing.... can't use any sort of automisation tools xd
if it work - it work very very very very slow
now i just spamming TX xd
for me its the opposite, Lab assiatant / automation works great, everything manual is impossible
😂
idk i used all combination of RPC
tbh both work great for me
its the transfer outside of star atlas which is fucked
same here
wish that was the case, in Based, i literally have to click an action 25-50 times to eventually get it to work. Thats even after doing F5 refreshes to change around RPCs
it was working bad when i tried moving more than 1 ressources / fleet, now i'm freighting only 1 resource at a time and works great
sometimes phantom work
sometimes solflare with auto-approve work good
idk than, i moved only 1 type of res
maybe it's only my bad experience
yea, tried doing both Phantom and Solaflare, still issues
i can't check again, now crafting
Do you also have issue to re supply your fleet? When it works It is very slow and often not working at all!
i think based
pretty good with TX
our problem only Solana...
i mean if Solana was a bit better now - i think based will be cool
Was teh SDU wallet ever refilled?
seems like that
I've had the same experience yesterday. Automation dies almost every loop so had to continually watch it. Got failed transactions every step of the way...especially with transporting where it said I had no available supply (which I had millions).
Did a few cycles of mining this morning and it worked, but away from my home computer now so probably just have a dead fleet right now.
Question: where can I check the weight of the new minerals?
ye, i can't check also, now my all crew crafting
really hope guys after their fix all will be better, i'm in fire sometimes 😂
I put almost all of my Fleets to crafting. Have 2 Fleets running basic mining loops hoping that they will still be running when I get home.
If I try multiple times due to late transaction processing, will I be charged a fee for the number of attempts?
no
mmmmm
Verified, btw
if the txn fails it charges you, but if it times out it does not
thanks everyone 🙂
In your case, yes, you will most likely be charged multiple times for multiple attempts. You won't be charged for the txn failing to land on chain due to block height exception, but once the txn does land on chain, you will continue to be charged for any failed txns that happen after that point as a result of spam clicking.
I had an idea that i posted now on feedback channel, but i'll put it here too.
Seems like that the impossibility to craft when SB dont have food is making the game stuck.
I would suggest to the team that crafting should have a food cost in the same way that mining does and not be bound to SB supply of food.
In this way, food would only be necessary for SB upgrade to feed crew that is doing the work and to maintain basic day-to-day operations of SB (public services, gov, basic internal security, supply markets for civilians).
Private operations should not depend on public goods.
we have a bunch of people on labs right now crafting because of this. this will make full migration to based hard
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@wispy widget maybe delay the roadmap part two Brew until next week and talk about the launch of SB? And how the team are looking at the data/feedback etc and what we might expect to happen over the next few weeks
We took this into account and made the decision to talk about the Starbased data and feedback next week, after there’s more time for all that to play out
Still very very early
Makes sense 🫡 Continued Thanks for all your work
Not even a week since launch
#FreeGalia
Thank you my friend!
But at the same time we KNOW that something is broken...so why turn your back to it. Let's talk about it and try to group think it out. I keep seeing you guys say you want to wait until Labs is closed, but basic math shows it's impossible to achieve even a fraction of the upgrades at this rate (with 100% utilization).
The longer you wait and don't tackle this head on the more people will leave which just compounds the issue!
Who said we aren’t tackling this head on? The team is very much on top of everything that has been brought to our attention.
I fully trust Chip and Chris on this. And prefer them to be focused on it for this week and hop on a discussion w the whole community next or when it’s most appropriate. They have also been very active in foundation room chats
I am sure you are working on it, but most of what I see is that you want to wait to see what happens when Labs shuts down and want to wait to gather more data. We already have data that shows how far off the mark we are for the food situation.
me. A lot of trouble. Double fees.
i think so to
Someone have problem with depositing ships into starbased?
console doesnt even show failed transactions. Just nothing happens for long time/many tries
Trust us my friend. Our guys are on top of the situation
Have we ever not acted based on community feedback?
I only say this because I don't want people to leave out of frustration...and there is a lot of frustration out there from a lot of people.
We are aware. Believe me we are
Honestly...that simple statement will go a long way with people. Most of us OGs know how you guys operate and how quick you are to fix things, but I think some lesser involved players will be comforted to see that type of statement.
Yeah I see your point. We will address this
Appreciate the feedback as always my friend @cyan wraith
for those having fees issues, try toggling priority on n off, the fees differ quite a bit depending on network. choose the cheapest. it'll work either way
sometimes priority on is cheaper, sometimes priority off is cheaper
You guys are the best and super excited with all the progress as clunky as it maybe...batter then just faction
Thanks for the advice bro!
Carlitoos
How are you doing in starbased?
You act on like 10% of my feedback. 😾
Thank you!
You know that you are a very emotional guy sometimes right
crushing it finally. day was was slow as hell, 100m LP, day 2 was like 200M, day3 was like 400M, day4 was 800M
Bro. The first tenant of Bryoyoga is supress your emotions.
Ask anyone
thats awesome!
Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues.
Those first teachings are always the hardest ones
I'd say the emotional aren't capable of judging what it means to suppress your emotions. So how can they judge the first tenant of Bryoga?
Okaaaay, not bad bro 😆
i would be making 2x if i was in ustur or mud but im not trying to focus on that 🙂
Let me tell you that one of the things I respect the most is the passion. We would be nowhere near where we are without passion
Yeah... I guess you're not the only one who thought that, I hope no one betrays their factions 
Michelle - "Bryan why are you giggling uncontrollably?"
You should! 😉

According to our lord and savior we should all be betraying our factions and guilds.
Reply that you are trying to suppress your emotions
It's not betraying your faction, but actually helping your faction by taking other Faction LP.
okay stop distrating me i have to move 1000 crew
I think what you meant to say was - "RAWR!!! Gather the pitchforks!"
i think a team member needs to actually play this game to understand wtf is happening right now.
lol
Yah, that's what a traitor would say 😂
I'm pretty sure they do...just maybe not as deeply as we do. At least I hope they don;t because they should be doing other things!
yeah they need some like dedicated play testers who write detailed reports
We are pretty aware sir
i dont believe you. how many fleets are you running?
Isn't that what we are for???
uh no. we are like 1% of what an actual playtester does
I've seen Jose's fleet, he is a small whale
Wasn’t talking about that type of passion but yeah
you have a very nice fleet but if you can move your entire crew in 1 interaction then you need more 🙂
😂
I am starting the foundations of Ustur colonization in MRZ 33
in order to move my crew i have to make and disband 68 fleets
Slowly creating the reserves we will need to kick your ONI ass
Aren't all the USTUR starbases dead with no food right now? At least they were this morning...
I know it is painful right now
@tall lava you can try to buy Electromagnet from market (i put big order) and transport all + load crew to earn LP and HODL, because with 6B LP it will be not so profitable. Of course it will be if you will craft Electromagnet by yourself, but in my experience it will be near with 100% APY earn now 😄
Yeah I don’t got a lot of time to play
I casually did that much xp with one large 😂
imagine to transporting resources 18H MANUALLY!!!!!!!!!
I am playing manually
Ustur have super coordinated feeding times, so as to not attract leechers from MUD and ONI
Same
i finally found a job i can do at star atlas. technical play tester. I'll write reports for you guys. zero passion 100% objective.
Since day 1
????????????
salary?

I can do this too but don’t expect big words
yes its called a job
You already do a lot of work friend 🙂
I couldn’t be more happy with you, for real
Don’t mind him, I’ll take the job
Hey all I’m giving HJs for food. If you could please deposit into Oni-4👋🏽
its true im doing like 18 hour days at this point
😂
Talk all day for 12-18 months and you’ll get there
Ok I need to go back to writing sogmian house structures
Lvl 45 easy
But guys, know that we really take into account all feedback
Fucking tease this guy
when i should tag Swagner?
😂
Jk but seriously whose D do I have to S to get some food in a goddamn starbase?
where are you localed?
And we are acting on it, with passion and reason
I hope HJ means High Jfives
Wherever D needs to be S’d
Don’t change the subject, he already made the deal
well if you tell me your location i can point your to the right person
What else could it possibly mean?
Santi is in brazil
💀
💀
🤣😭
what
That’s noot
have i said a lie so long i actually believe it?
We all had to 3x our crew, can’t join
There are more important things right now santi
People in Galia can’t eat
lol
Biomass is the future of finance
Lol
Was this the great famine noot talked about like 8-10 months ago?
He warned us
Long ago
we yearn for sustenance my lord
Yeah @wispy widget people are selling themselves in the outter rim. I saw a guy riding around with a Packlite full of lube.
Shouldnt the food consumption of starbases be much lower?
Nah, I say make it higher! 🫣
HAHAHAH
I guess it’s part of the free market
Hi all.
Hypothesis... Food was unused for so long, mining ships and claims wracked up a lot of excess in system.
Team wants to have us eat that down.
Unfortunately, the "Rent is to damn high!" LOL...
So opposite has happened...
Everyone hodling... as the return is abissmal...
People starve
No craft
no expansion
Starbased moves to crawl speed.
The team needs to find a middle ground...
balance it out..
affffffffffff
The current approach is literally to starve us out..
IE. once everyone is here and faces the choice of no play, or pay high food to burn down inventory,
Solution…unload your food into the starbases and hodl deeze instead.
if labs shutdown, LP/day goes down so incentive for putting up food gets better, there are two games, one on easy mode so there is no big reason to play on harmode
they are hoping we go for the higher rates at that point...
how is that possible
The balance is horrible, make no sense a mud consume same as oni,
the food should be based on active players, or something like that
it's only because people go to labs for crafting, it is free to craft on labs. Things should change after labs is closed
maybe the current values make sense after 16th, but for now
Oni logically shouldn't consume food. The body is self sustaining
What you are saying would be FAR to complex under these circumstances...
i dont even care that much for this
I JUST WANT to claim my craft
30 minutes to claim, omg, its impossible
Exactly what I was saying... team is hoping when the boats are burned, folks will pay the fees in order to keep playing/trying to earn.
Not complaining... just being real.
Put an autocomplete claim in there, end our suffering PLEASE
Actually not a bad idea
refresh, try again, refresh, try again, refresh try agaoin
Of course dont, why i do have to claim, makes no sense, not in this solana cenario, just put an autocomplete there, and every1 willl be happy
craft cannot be done by slylabs
yesterday I was suffering to unload, i was making some manual stuff in slylabs for it make to me the unloads, but craft isnt an option
Overall, I think the key learning from this Solana issues: SA needs to be less "chatty" of an application.... To many micro transactions... this wont scale at all... Anyone in enterprise software knows this... We need a much more efficient app with less transactions overall to scale... Especially as a hedge against future issues with Solana or just an explosion of players....
@gentle lodge they MUST think about people that works, like ME, i cannot waste 30/40 minutes of my time just to claim something, its ridiculous
yeah that's literally what they are doing now, before it was not and issue to have that many txs. with new chagnes there are lots of improvements. No need to exit warp, no limit on SDU fleets and etc
Sure the transactions earn/feed the crew... that is why so many... and why "all on chain".... but truly... you could accomplish the money objective with a higher cost per transaction. This would achieve same objective, but with much better UX, performance, scalability, lower support costs, and risk to business continuity (the team is def making less money than they could right now... as many folks are sidelined or simply not able to "play" as much...
also they have more RPCs now which makes game so much smoother, just need to refresh to get new connection
I know/hope that they are working this... it is so obvious...
My only concern/beef/criticism right now is that lack of consistant posts about progress, direction, etc. as announcements... Many of us (even someone who has been around a long time like myself) are not in FR. So we have no clue as to what is happening... Crises PR 101- Over communicate even with simple- "We hear you, we feel you" messages/announcements... This resolves a lot of angst, calms people down, lets them feel like they are heard, and shows the team is working the problem...
their income comes from sales not txs, tx do generate some revenue but this is so little.. compared to millions in sales
Half the frustration I see in discord is simply not knowing what is happening, and posts asking if what is happening to individuals is happening to everyone else...
yeah their PR is really shit, that I agree on 😄
Yah, but the purchases are one time revenue... the transactions are that low rent that pays consistently and keeps the biz running.. eventually folks buy up what they can afford.. then the only monetization is transactions...
If you only rely on ship sales, you dont have a sustainable biz...
the only txs that generate revenue are crafting fees, regular txs generate revenue for Solana validators
The goal should be to scale transactional revenue by having volumes of players... at that point, ship sales become gravy and pure margin... as the game and team are paid for....
That will take a long time BTW...
This is why scalability and UX has to be fantastic right now... and the architecture now should transition from features to stability/scalabillity.. even at the cost of transactional revenue... SA wont be able to address this if we scale right now...
They would clearly be drowned by support tickets and bad PR...
Hence why I am saying that they HAVE to be working to make the app less "chatty" right now...
I would also humbly submit that they should consider adjusting the econ elements to whatever labs is just to get everyone over faster with less friction/complaints.
SA can do nothing about scalability. This all Solana
even if we generate 10x less txs this doesn't change anything
When the tech is suffering (solana, etc.) adding in econ angst/friction is just not wise IMHO.. that could be done at any time... why do it now and exacerbate an already bumpy time that the team cannot control?
Politely disagree...
our pct of total daily txs is 3-5 times less than it used to be and we're still in this shit lol
There are way to many transactions... so some get dropped...
nah man you have no idea what's going on lol, and I don't think I am able to explain this to you
even if SA generate 0 txs, Solana network is still congested
we suffer because Solana is suffering, not the other way around
Not debating that Solana is a core issue....
Just saying that if an action takes 3 to 5 transactions to complete, the odds of solana dropping or choking on part of the action go up... and you spend SO MUCH time trying again and again... That is an app/SA design thing....
Not solana
We cannot fix Solana, so we need to mitigate the risks it poses...
that's not how it works
I disagree.... some game actions could be simplified to single transactions/actions...
even if we send 10billion txs to block still only 1k makes through
you get dropped txs because blocks are already full
and dropped txs don't cause the congestion
Why send 10 billion? If you could simplify some workflows to be 1 instead of 5?
doesnt matter how much you send
if you dont make it to block you dont, it's not upto SA if you make it or not
So.. if I follow that correctly, perhaps SA could design to have mulitple transactions from a player to be bundled/dependant? Ie. If I need 5 transactions to complete a function or workflow, ensure they all go to the same block... not multiple... that way I complete... versus partially complete and therefore fail to complet the workflow...
not possible, it has to be solvable within 1 program
they did this with RFR crafting
Full game on-chain... and it's amaying.. we just need working how it is
instead of 11 seperate txs they managed to make it into 3-4 and this is max that can be done
So this is as optimized as it gets?
Not scalable then as a major AAA game if everythig is on chain and this is the performance...
unfortunately from SA side they have done absolute best they can.
if I read your stats right, we choking at 1800 or so active players...
Pleaseeee bring back SCORE again... Starbased economy is flawed with all the transactions... how is this supposed to be rewarding?
just need to wait for Solana 1.18 update which should come next week and after that Firedancer upgrade which is expected for summer
So, I go back to my original premise... SA needs to be more selective about how/what is truly needed on chain...
The biz risk is to high at scale NOT to think that way..
stake is in DAO, not in score anymore 😄
everything needs to be on chain. This is what this whole project is about, there is no other way 😄 it either succeed or not, that's the risk
Solana patches on the 15th of April, Toly sees light at the end of the tunnel
More fixes underway
SA devs doing their best
Most of my issues resolved now and im happy despite solana congestion
Cmon... there is another way... this is/should not be... a religion... You can build a VERY successful, open arch, game/ecosystem with many play loops/workflows that are NOT on chain... sacrificing scalability for a concept is not a good trade off...
not this projects vision, that's why it's in pre-alpha state. Scaling up the project and taking it to masses is not focus right now
that why UE5 keys are on request and not public and etc
I get the vision, but this is about timing... slow and steady wins the race... we could start with a bit more off chain loops and then go more on chain as the Solana infra can scale to support the vision... right now, the vision has exceeded the capacity of the infra to support it... putting the vision at risk.... Our build effort and approach should be slightly behind what can be supported... this way we never encounter risk to business continuity...
too late for for them to dial it back the economy is already fully on chain
i get your frustration , we all do but unfortunately thats part of the prize you get for “being early”
And they are already chaning their methods. Methods which used to be the most efficient before are not so efficient today. They have rewritten many things already.
keeping this in mind the project will ALWAYS be on chain
fully
this project don't have risk to business continutity when there are fan boy whales who are purchasing 5m usd ships
don't worry man
#FreeGalia
#FreeGalia
lol, wrong chat
i dont know when this was dated but its out of date now. Star Atlas is the top performing DAPP on Solana right now.
#FreeGalia
dudes i need to do this , im still without this ship in my wallet!!!! how i can solve?
1st of this month
THIS is what should have been posted in announcements for all the people... lol... My entire thread this am could have been avoided... ARGH... PR 101....
yea told you they're bad at PR 😄
This is the change I was trying to advocate for... and tell folks was likely happening.... but with no PR post on the MAIN channels... chaos, confusion, upset peeps... So simple to avoid.. someone should pin this post or put it up as an announcement... for the love of god please! 🙂
Good afternoon, have a great day!
click the red banner
well, for your suprise and also to my surprise, this very same message is pinned 😄 😄
Bad PR... increases pain, support, and chaos... lol....
Pins are great.. but announcements or miner announcements are better!!!
LOL...
New question for those of us not in the know... what is the hashtag "freeGalia" .... lol...
Sometimes it sucks to be a Plebian versus a member of the Proletariat in FR... lol....
global lp and lower food requirements in based #FREEGALIA
I can join that revolution... LOL...
0 PR... This area of the project could really get some extra attention.
And also
#freegalia
its an old announcement
and not relevant anymore
Star Atlas is King
A fat ass food-gobbling king, but yeah...
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What he said! It doesn't need to be Stellaris on Day 1, we can have a glide path.
Also true.
F Solana on a good day
At what price would you be willing to buy a Tier 5 stake claim?
I ask to put mine for sale on the official marketplace
hi
How can I get started
wish i could afford one. there are basically free money!
just want to ask if i buy one ship can i use it in everything like mining,crafting.data running,fighting racing etc.
Yes, though some are better suited for different things
you mean different ship ,has different ways to earn money like theres ship just for mining? for data scanning? etc.?
how bout the fimbul airbike can this one use for mining,racing etc.?
airbike can do everything
oh ok, but when comes on earning is ok?
i see that theres a lot of ship, like theres a fighter ship, medic ship, commander ship what is all that differ from other ship?
they can all do everything atm as far as earning but some are more efficient
eventually they’ll all have specific roles
meaning the more expensive ship you buy the more earnings?
yes but mining and bomber ships are better at mining
freighter ships are better at transport
oh ok
so different ship has its corresponding roles
air bikes are cool for scanning (which isnt really profitable atm) and crew to craft
not all the roles are useful just yet but yeah
oh ok
what is the commandeer ship?
if youre thinking of buying a fleet just think about your budget and goals in the game
ok
now use it for mining and transport or crew to craft sometimes
Good Announcement recco... if we are getting close the date to shut down labs, we should probably post it up to give folks lots of time to migrate... Solana is not very helpful at the moment. 🙂
but if youre looking at commanders id think about more diversity unless thats only half your budget
what can we get in mining,crafting ,scanning etc. earn points ?
we’ve all known for awhile now
i mean you can earn atlas by either getting involved with lp claim (its a little drama filled atm) or trade stuff on the market
you can also buy claimstakes that passively produce r4 ( basic needs to play the game)
oh ok, what is LP?
Trust.. there are going to be folks that "did not know" or that do not realize it might take a while to successfully, extract from Labs to wallet, then from wallet to starbase, then set up fleets, then get them active again... they also may not time crafting jobs... we will see the crying... So taking 5 mins to post up a timer or reminder in announcements is probably valuable if it saves the team one less support ticket or the crying in the discord...
loyalty points
oh ok, sorry got lots of question im new to this
If stuff gets stuck in labs, good for the economy. people not following what is going on should suffer abit, because if they are not aware of the change of game state from april 16 already, means they are just leeching from the economy.
its not the best based need everyone to have all their stuff in it for upgrades and maintenance
how about the starbased what isit?
im sure there are and ooh well they’ll have to take the time to transport all of there stuff to css and get out of labs
its not like they are going to be trapped in there
there just wont be anymore resources to mine
Its the current iteration of the web game mode. It introduced a new way to play
starbased is the econ game where you actually do all these things atm
there is also UE5 star atlas where you can basically demo certain game modes
oh ok
no earning in UE5 yet
oh ok
just looks cool but there are some earning mechs coming with racing soon
really?
wdym? whats the minimum specs to run this game?
surge? what is that?
thats cool you can play that now
cant find them but i know you need a decent pc
oh ok
ummmmmmmm i think it was an open test but i think they do it on the weekends
you can also get atlas in the surge
you can play around with a bunch of stuff its on epic store but you need a key to download it atm
not yet , maybe soon
now its just being tested
oh,ok
UE5 stuff has no earning just yet its purely fun
oh ok
surge is in ue5?
if you wanna earn get used to labs thats where the full economy is
yup its all on the star atlas download from epic
labs and starbase is different?
Bases not consuming food/toolkits when there is no active crafting/upgrading happening is the way.
the burn rate is
I can’t even collect my atlas , because of network congestion
what kind of game is dogfighting?
whats good fellas! do we have to take our fleets out of sage and put them in starbase or does it roll over automatically? ive been away for a while so i have no idea whats going on.
you have to get all of your resources and fleets out of labs
good luck if you have a lot of stuff in deep bases
Wagner, give the money back to Solana and change the chain my brother!!!
if i buy a ship does it comes with a crew?
for right now ships come fully loaded i the future they will just be hulls no crew no components
surge is it the fight vs all factions?
until when ?
oh! ok
whats the purpose of the crew?
Hello guys, so anyone as cancelled one crafting instance? I ask this to know if we receive the Atlas fee.
thanks my guy! thats a three day endevor
it will start crafting when there is more food supplied to that base
not sure about the fee
Hey guys.
Some people can't see their fleet or ingredients in LABS. I'm trying to remove all my stuff from LABS, but using the front end is a kind of mission impossible.
Is there someone else facing this issue?
lots of restarts
Makes sense. Thank you for the answer.
So I have never been able to get ships or resources into Starbased. Should I throw in the towel and wait for a later version to be released?
How do I get my assets out of Sage?
just gotta kepep refreshing and trying
Seriously? Ug
yep, im currently doing so meself
I get what you are saying, but we should always shoot for NO SUFFERING.. lol... if it can be helped... some people need the poke/reminder...
transactions to remove are being sent, but because Solana is busy they end up timing out. You have to send them till one goes through.
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ermm, i disagree, responsibilities come before rights, choices and consequences, that is the yin and yang of life. Where is accountability ? it's not like the team is doing this without warning, lol
in any case, i am not wishing suffering on anyone, I just think that to expect everyone to be coaxed along is abit unrealistic
Simple test: do you know the date off the top of your head for when Labs goes dark?
lol.
well, it doesn't matter to me, because I have nothing in labs, but even then it is april 16th
Took me a week to get out of SCORE and I am on the second day of trying to form fleets and get them mining Hydro... lol...
Still not earning and this is day 7 of migrating...
So, did Solana give your an explanation? When will this network be fixed?
SCORE is a little better but still.. I would conservatively tell folks with a decent size fleet, that you should probably start moving out by the 11th at the absolute latest from my personal experience...
Still shifting stuff out of SCORE at this stage is mindboggling, but i get it, some people are only here for the $$
don't get me wrong, I am also here for the $$, but I like to move with the game
Right now we cannot do anything. Now supply food to starbase, nor stop mining, nor transport, etc. The game is unplayable 😦
I am in for the game, but because I came in super early at the height, I am still under water (even with DCAing and emissions) by over 10k... so yah.. not earning sucks...
If you are referring to transactions not going through, I read that solana devs are looking to get a fix for the congestion out by mid april, so just gotta hang in there until then, and hope they are able to resolve it
not losing sleep, as I believe long term.. but a week or more of not earning while putting in serious hours to get live again is sucky no matter how you slice it... not blaming team.. it is what it is... ]\
You just have to see MUD starbases, everyone without food. I tried to supply 5M food to 3 of them 1h ago and still didn't load
at least you are doing what you can to move over to starbased, so that's good 🙂 others should be doing the same at this stage, instead of either afk farming, or trying to squeeze every last penny from systems that are going obselete
Ustur is same, I understand the struggles, I am losing hair over this congestion tbh, lmfao
I'm moving around just fine. few extra clicks and a refresh here and there
are you using priority fees with phantom ?
not right now because the fees arent much diff
but are you using phantom or solflare?
phantom
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I believe phantom is smoother, but it also charges you more for transactions sometimes, making it abit risky, especially if performing many functions
I think its closer to 30 with starbased with the current price of sol
def have to keep your eye on the tx fee with priority fees off lol. phantom will try to sneak some high ones in there
perhaps even 40 to be safe, still very low point of entry as most of that just gets tied up in token accounts
that you can get back
Protip for Based: Try transaction 25 times... with hard refreshes in between... then take a walk... then come back and start again... eventually you will get that food from your base into your fleet. LOL...
Walks are critical...
step
That or lose your hair...
lol.
this is more relaxing then the other half of my day job to be fair (political organizing on fb makes this cycle look relaxing)
What it takes to play Based.. lol..
Just... keep... trying.....
Must...ignore...pain....lol.
click, refresh, click is relaxing when your comparing it to someone throwing a moralistic tantrum when your trying to inform them that they are just doing what the cia wants them to do
ie I just had to blcok someone on fb because they went on a moralistic tangent that is counter productive and refused to see reason
Ok.. three hours of fighting... still cannot get a single fleet to exit CSS and mine hydro... time to walk away... will try again in a few hours... Day 5 of zero earn... This is just MUD wallet... Have not even tried forming fleets with ONI yet... yowza!
Time to touch grass!
japan seems to be working decent for me today
vpn
we have claimstakes for that though
My claimstakes dont make 40 million food to keep the css up lol
my daily stakes could keep the css active for 1 minute
lol
go to one of the other sec zone stations then
css has the most expensive upkeep
i dont understand, dont the other stations require food and toolkits?
also its meant to be a collective effort, but yeah they need to give us some other in game way to make food eventually or have our stakes at pure min produce it for free
tooll kits are to upgrade, css has the fastest food burn rate
hmm, maybe i'm mistaken the UI but when I read "Maintenance and Upkeep" and see Food/Toolkit below I'm assuming that means both are required
Even if 100% of the players focused ONLY on Food production/supply every single day, we would still only be able to support 80% of T2 Starbases remaining operational in game (we would never be able to reach 100% T2 status).
And then to REQUIRE every single player to coordinate amongst each other is just an insane ask.
food is not needed to upgrade bases
all bases don't need to be up all the time though
we need to focus fire etc
ie select central crafting hubs and what not
note this is also where faction/region daos come in
Are you actually playing though? Do you have any idea how impossible it would be to have to constantly jump to starbases that are currently operational. The game as it currently stands is broken and the Devs know this which is why changes are coming.
if we select a starbase that is the crafting starbase for mrz while the current set of upgrades are going on then there is no jumping of starbases
the chaos is when people are off trying to do their own thing and expecting others to fill the food supply
Sure you can keep 1-2 bases operational at a time...that's pretty much the MAXIMUM. Is that how youexpect the game to be played?
remember the only thing that we have right now is the starbase upgrades, once other stuff is out the team can dial that back
Just run the numbers man and you will see how impossible it is. You are also expecting complete Faction organization which is impossible for so many reason i can't even get in to.
The current Starbase maintenace require a MINIMUM of 20X player base, but realistically a 30X to be sustainable.
also note this is while rfrs etc are going, as right now regardless of how slow the burn is people will still be mostly crafting in labs for now
because the lp reward for food turn in is mostly a waste
it was mentioned that there was going to be no way to keep all the bases up and running, and that factions would have to choose a few main bases.
We can't even keep 1 T1 Starbase running at 100%! 🤣
aye, you not wrong lol
still unless they like what 4x (minimum) food supply lp it won't matter
untill labs gets shut off that is
2 choices for them 1 reduce it to meaningless, or 4x+ the lp rewards
It still won;t mater because the Food requirements and burn rates are WAY too high. We will never get there. We will end up spending so much time mining Biomass and crafting/supplying food that we will barely get a T2 Starbase and then the Ammo shortage starts...
or wait till labss is done
There are a LOT more choices....
food supply lp is at a massive loss compared to just selling the food, unless that changes most people will go to labs to craft till that gets shut off
ie any adjustment to this till labs finishes out is rather pointless
the fact is I think its a good thing that food/tool kits need to be burnt at an overall loss it makes people think about what else they are doing with that time
however the overall loss for food can't work till labs is gone
sdus and a whole bunch of other stuff will be changing around that time, also this burns a lot of exess supply right now
so lets wait to see what happens next week
If I had an Atlas for every refresh I could buy a Titan😆
nah, perhaps a large though
is it me or based is broken?
It's it little difficult but once it's fixed it will be amazing.
that's what broke it for me 😄
vpns work wonders in getting around the local rpc server issues
lol
I seem to have issue with based interface, it's just white page for long time and then loads map without star bases
Yeah, some spam with the txs
But works
And when you connect the wallet it remains the same?
yeah games ded atm
it remains the same, shows my name and next to it shows 0 xp and 0lp
where are you vpn from?
what is the location of the vpn server you're connected to?
our do you just jump around until something works?
I usually try different locations until it works
lol
how i can remove my fleet ?
from what exactly, there are 3 current programs
how i can remove ship from my fleet
and then remove it ??
you need to disband the entire fleet
then reform it without the ships you want to do soemthing else with
so i cant remove ship ?
i want use ship to join another space to mine something else
not without disbanding the entire fleet
for disband i need fuel for ship ?
it just needs to be docked, ideally at the css so if you have fuel issues you can just import it
after disband all will back to my starbased amount ?
I always empty the fleet before I disband it, but yes the fuel will get returned to the starbase you disband at
emptying the fleet first helps remove any exess token acounts from it so the disband has less work to do
and less chance of sol getting stuck
lol I never empty the fleet, seems like extra work 😄
you can claim the rents from inventory later
it gives error when i empty all
refresh
it shouldn't
it needs fuel to undock thats the error your seeing
i just have ship and crew in fleet rn
not exactly its best right now to give the network the least amount of instructions you can per action
try refreshing, looks like something is stuck
its ok now
now how to join in another place to mine ?
probably but at the same time I'm not disbanding fleets often 😄
you have 2 options 1 is create 2 fleets and send the ship to where your other mining fleet is that way or have the mining fleet come and pick up the ship
you can add ships to fleets without needing to disband
but you can't merge 2 fleets
that means i need 2 ships ?
i should have a fleet into css always ?
if you only have 1 fleet you can just send it to another location to mine
how to send ?
you need to sub warp or warp to the other starbase
so i can make a fleet into css and i can mine in another place like ONI-3 example ?
yes assuming your oni
you can only mine in your own faction
you made it sound like you had multiple fleets running
you will need take fuel, food and ammo with you.... and then transport resources you mining back...
yes load up the ship with extra fule food and ammo so that you can just stay at the new location for a bit
no i have one
ok then there is no real need to disband you just need to subwarp or warp to the locations you want to be at, and again remember to bring extra stuff so you don't get stranded
does anyone know of a good tutorial for this guy sounds like he needs that
game is really on nervous . transactions not smooth . always slow . alot transactions needed
how much food for carbon needed ? you know bro ?
thanks 😄
funcracker is knowledgeable, I did not check the guide myself but he does good work
yes but they dont say how much food needed for carbon mining 😄
it depends on your fleet composition
a lot of this is highly individualized
for hydrogen on css it needed 13 food
for carbon idk
yeah but thats your fleet
just pack some food, fuel and ammo into your cargo hold when you go, make sure your filled up
you will learn the ratios as you go
Can anyone share me any info/link about claim stakes? Thanks
check pinned, scroll down a bit
so now for joining ONI-3 i need to warp or subwarp?
warp = fast but short distance, subwarp = slow but long distance
subwarp burns less fuel as well
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css to oni-3 is long or short ?
i used warp but its failed
im going by subwarp and its taking 20 mins 😄
I'm pretty tired of Solana! Things goes so damn slow...
this game is slow anyway bro
yes, its better to think of it as a map not trying to give it bc logic
as you have to actualy move from one node to the next
warp no working ., subwarp worked
im moving 😄
i wanna collect some carbon
and i have hydrogen
and wanna make hydrocarbon
is that good ?
It take me like 1-1½ hours to end a mining process or tanke up the ships.... 🫤
whats your ship size and how many ships you have ? 😄
I mean its needed for stuff so yeah (nfa)
@turbid mountain armstrongs. The food process is bad....
its better than hydrogens alone for sure . lower amount is always rare 😄
i dont see much in market
most people don't sell the intermediary crafts
oh . i have a xx-small ship then for me its faster . but need to put more times on game 😄
and it took 15 mins to mine and 10 mins to make process for mine . 😄
at least 25-30 mins every mining take time for me
team need to make lower transactions and make it faster
why not ? whats their problem ? 😄
right now there is not much to do for smaller players, do you have a good computer, if so try joining in the playtest for ue5 on the 20th
crafting is for smaller players
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Does anyone use backpack wallet can I fully trust it?
