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[dark seal]

Ctrl + f5. Sometimes marketplace acts up

[topaz pine]

passed me?

!rank

[topaz pine]

!leaderboard

!levels

[sour hearth]

Here you go! 🧙‍♂️

[dark seal]

Once you are able to go there there are two tabs. Go to available claims

[dark seal]

In thanks

[topaz pine]

ohh

thanks @dark seal

[dark seal]

4 behind now thanks @topaz pine

Voting for you for next years Joni awards

[topaz pine]

LFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[west slate]

oh I'm going to hit 3 eventualy with signal not here

[turbid mountain]

@topaz pine: 10k AMM is enough to buy bro ?

[dark seal]

He came with an alt over the weekend

[topaz pine]

what

[dark seal]

It’s plenty

[west slate]

does not matter as its his main account thats on 3

[turbid mountain]

2k ?

1k ?

😄

[dark seal]

I know I just mean he’s lurking again 😂

[west slate]

if he is not getting exp on his main I win

[spark hollow]

!rank

[dark seal]

!rekt

!santi

[sour hearth]

Absolute Legend

[west slate]

yeah I saw him

[dark seal]

Maybe 10k to make the txn cost more worth it. It’ll last a long time with one bike

[dark seal]

So close to fr

[spark hollow]

ik, just over a level to go

[grave flower]

1100 ATLAS for 2'800'000 LP, really?!

even fleet claim is more lucrative... :/

[dark seal]

Let the whales fight each other. Plenty of money to be made on marketplace right now if you can get it to work

[waxen raven]

You guys are aware that solflare does even not send your transactions with chrome?

[west slate]

that means the rpcs are dead

[dark seal]

Feels about right 😂

[limber steeple]

Ain't that the norm? Haha

[turbid mountain]

so 1k is enough ?

[winter hinge]

Good point, they'll exhaust themselves and then the emissions will go up in-time.

[waxen raven]

It's not the rpc, its the fact that it does not send to the rpc

[dark seal]

And shit that’s good lol I would of gotten 930 last night with 4.8m

[dark seal]

These days yes

[turbid mountain]

1k amm , 1k food , 1k fuel ?

is good ?

[dark seal]

To start probably

[west slate]

nope I can use a vpn and get it to show up

but honestly I know the network is in the gutter right now so not bothering

[dark seal]

Plenty of liquidity on market right now

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/laughs-no-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-nope-no-way-gif-14012461

[waxen raven]

But it seems to work with firefox

[spark hollow]

just chrome?

[winter hinge]

LOL bet they stop buying off the marketplace, just to lose $ within 2 weeks (aka exhausting themselves)

[dark seal]

Yeah I think lp probably climbs like you said

[solid dagger]

Thanks. I found it

[turbid mountain]

it says fuel capacity is 450 . then how much will be used this 450 fuel ?!

[grave flower]

WTF... That's the wrong to get new players... Close fleet claim slowly and earnings in starbased are a joke...

[limber steeple]

Fr, fr. Btw, scorching hot here fam.

[waxen raven]

I think so

[dark seal]

You aren’t doing it right. Lp isn’t for us. Sell on market

[grave flower]

so many starbases are already dead...

[dark seal]

They started Ded lol

[grave flower]

🙂

[dark seal]

Isn’t it always except during monsoon season? Even then… still in the 80s

[lyric nimbus]

@wispy widget do we know time when labs will be closed? i mean 16.04 but when? morning/evening? can you tell us time? 😄

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[waxen raven]

Now you discover starbaseddead

[wispy widget]

no time. We'll probably have that closer to the date

[dark seal]

Be sure to collect every few days or so at least. Note storage capacity

[west slate]

whales have moved to labs to craft

[waxen raven]

disable crafting in labs then

[west slate]

they can't till rfrs are done

[lyric nimbus]

[west slate]

we are stuck in this for another week

[limber steeple]

That's true. But I think it's the first time in a while classes have been moved to asynchronous because they didn't want kids to go to school because of the temp.

[serene willow]

04:26 am

[lyric nimbus]

[dark seal]

Is that new? Never happened when I was there

[wispy widget]

hmmm for some strange reason I really like this time!

[fossil smelt]

Crafting is bugged again, can't claim crafted components

[serene willow]

Never change rules mid-game, friend. Announced at 16th. Keep till 16th. 😉

[lyric nimbus]

could be not UTC time?
will be better 04:26 pm utc 😂

[serene willow]

No am/pm nonsense, please. Only one 04:26, and that's am. 4:26 pm is 16:26. 🤪

[limber steeple]

I hit refresh late like a high-end gaming monitor, 144hz hahaha

[lyric nimbus]

[topaz pine]

bro shut it down now. Labs is fucking cancer eating away at our beautiful game.

[wispy widget]

Spicy as always Bryan

[lyric nimbus]

😂

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[serene willow]

Bro...

[dark seal]

Mega F ing BUMP

[west slate]

we can't even get a basic tranaction through right now how are they going to do that

[topaz pine]

what are you talking about ive been playing for 4 days straight

[fossil smelt]

Yes, that's it, it worked when I refresed for 15 minutes haha

[topaz pine]

STOP FARMING IN LABS AND MIGRATE OVER

[west slate]

yeah it was working when I got up then the rpcs took a dump

[lyric nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-off-shut-off-switch-off-kill-the-lights-lights-off-gif-12198682

[limber steeple]

1 more week KB.. and it's...

[dark seal]

JOIN US IN THE FUTURE

[serene willow]

I'd say, for real, it should be at 00:00, April 16th

[rich steeple]

or NOW

[west slate]

plus I need to run to the store regardless so I go back to banging my head against the wall when I get home

[topaz pine]

GOBBLE GOBBBLE GOBBLE RFR GOBBLE GOOBBLE FGOBBLE

[serene willow]

00:00 fulfills the announcement

[lyric nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-turn-around-kid-wrong-door-gif-4930555

[serene willow]

While also cutting a day

[limber steeple]

There's a certain window of time, at least I've noticed for me that based runs relatively smooth...

[waxen raven]

It's time to join the Shrimps dac boys ! Dad is going to talk with momma whales

[topaz pine]

indeed

i dont know what timezone its in but its definitely changing

[west slate]

yes and right now is like the worst window

but its also my window to get to the market so whatever

[serene willow]

Man... The 2 weeks before announcement of closure f'ed me bad. No private RPC, everything not working. I had such a messy set up. I'm now very close to being done. Miners are just getting hydro, and scanners spending the obscene amount of tools I had at MRZ. It's going fast now with private RPC.

I'm so tired of it, tbh...

[limber steeple]

I noticed it around 7am-9am my time. So that's around 2300utc to 0100 utc ... hhmm...

That's like all my based txns are going through and no need to refresh

[topaz pine]

oooo yeah. this chart is behidn as well. could be UTC time

[topaz pine]

Yeah i know. we all F'ed. My fingers bleeding from all the ledger clicks.

[serene willow]

I legit considered selling everything at that week. If I didn't set up the private RPC, I probably would've. It was soooooo bad.

And now here I am, bought 2 TAPs today. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[vernal veldt]

https://tenor.com/wZP5.gif

[cyan wraith]

I'm at like 20% utilization/productivity right now with all these failed transactions!

[topaz pine]

yeah i feel you

[dark seal]

Faction claims working great

[topaz pine]

trying to buy more crew and i spent 30 minutes moving atlas over

[dark seal]

Only takes 45 min/day to manage

[rich steeple]

should've bought crafters

[cyan wraith]

Time to do some Labs crafting tonight I think! 🤣

[topaz pine]

bro miners are dead

crafters the new miners

if i have 10,000 crew

[serene willow]

I'm a visionaire...

[topaz pine]

that means i have to make 68 fleets every time i want to move

jfc

[vernal veldt]

i'm glad i have enough common sense to not buy more ships. This common sense called lack of money.

[cyan wraith]

And about 10min per transaction to go through...

[serene willow]

Wait till craft overflows, and crafters lack what to craft with...

[steady sinew]

#MakeStarAtlasOffChain
#OnlyImportAndWithdrawOnChain
#FreeSpeach

[topaz pine]

#FreeGalia

[cyan wraith]

#FreeSolana

[serene willow]

And yeah, I have a good amount of crafters as well

[dark seal]

#freethenipple

[rich steeple]

#pphurts

[limber steeple]

What crafters you use?

[dark seal]

End of the world in america tonight I heard

Good luck

[clear meteor]

Just took that photo 40 mins ago

[limber steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[vernal veldt]

We have a imposter

[serene willow]

#idon'thaveaproperhashtag

[dark seal]

Oh wow that’s nice

[rich steeple]

lucky you to see that

[cyan wraith]

Hopefully...

[patent iris]

Amazing

[dark seal]

I need polis utility before world ends

Otherwise I’ll be pissed

[serene willow]

I have many different XXS from different buying opportunities. Most are bikes. Some Jets, some ruchs...

[limber steeple]

DAC governan..... oh wait.. 😅

[serene willow]

Oh boy...

[dark seal]

Maybe next season

[steady sinew]

The World ends and i can't dock

[dark seal]

Is this the same type of eclipse we got in like 2017?

[vernal veldt]

is there a coincidence in Sol eclipse and Sol congestion?

[dark seal]

It’s the same picture

[limber steeple]

Don't dock if it's coming to an end haha

[split solar]

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[cyan wraith]

50/50

[waxen raven]

Ustur css down

[limber steeple]

The moon is pulling the RPCs gravity that's why txns are failing haha

[steady sinew]

everything make sense now

[mortal lark]

Would be nice to get a statistic of how many players are still in labs vs how many actually moved to based, seems more people still in labs atm

[dark seal]

Polis utility is my exit liquidity 😂

[patent iris]

There are no coincidences.

[dark seal]

I need it before 2030 for sure.

[dark seal]

https://tenor.com/view/tin-foil-hat-tin-foil-conspiracy-gif-23958644

[rich steeple]

20min txs 😄

[steady sinew]

plaese whales, resuply food on starbase. you can, i beleave

[dark seal]

Man no shit 😂

[vernal veldt]

No end of the world until atlas and polis stakes is not claimed

[dark seal]

Whales to busy crafting in labs

[turbid mountain]

whats CARGO ?

for using food in fleet i need cargo ?

[acoustic wing]

anyone know a good ultrabook that will play surge ok, im not bringing my normal lapttop away with me its too heavy

[cerulean hatch]

So whales swoop in to claim all the LP and never supply any food?

[steady sinew]

one with RTX 4080 can play in 30fps

[rich steeple]

cargo is how much your fleet can carry

[dark seal]

Crafting in labs

[vernal veldt]

Do not, my friends, become addicted to food supply. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

[rich steeple]

that's so stupid that they kept labs open lol, their first idea was much better. just close labs and let everybody carry out their things with unlimited warp distance

then whales are forced to supply

if they want to craft

[dark seal]

Only a week left. We’ve made it through worse

[rich steeple]

guess you're right

[rich steeple]

here have a random thanks

[dark seal]

They still gotta do it to upgrade

[dark seal]

What’s a random thanks?

[late pollen]

Is that even allowed?

[dark seal]

Thanks

[cyan wraith]

If they left unlimited WARP the whales could literally produce billions in R4 everyday individually...we did the math. It would not have neded well.

[rich steeple]

[dark seal]

Thanks bro

[late pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hug-bff-best-friend-friend-gif-19008572

[rich steeple]

yeah but the problem was that they announced it, they should've kept it secret and just turn it on when migration starts

[acoustic wing]

thanks ill take 20fps on something smaller and lighter...

[dark seal]

Thanks me too

[turbid mountain]

it says transfer cargo into fleet . how to do that ?

[dark seal]

Inventory. Thanks

Like 1% of your cargo space for food to mine

[turbid mountain]

i need buy cargo in marketplace ?

[cyan wraith]

Seriously...could you imagine the shit show that would be here if the team didn't announce a big change like that and just dropped it as a suprise.

[dark seal]

Your ship has cargo space

[rich steeple]

unlimited warp wouldn't be a such a big change to cause for any shit storm`? everybody could just carry their things out

right now the shitstorm is way worse lol

everybody hating based and whales and LP and food supply is shit

all is shit

ahh and plus

we cant get shit out of labs

[cyan wraith]

You are not thinking about the Whales. Unlimited WARP even without notice would wreck the economy. Trust me...we ran all the numbers.

[rich steeple]

they would not know that there is unlimited warp

they would only know that labs will close on 2nd

that's it

they carry their shit out before

[turbid mountain]

i cant understand it really . it gives error yet

[rich steeple]

and then when time comes unlimited warp will be enabled

[cyan wraith]

And when it didn;t they would put everything back in labs...

[rich steeple]

they cant, labs is closed

one way out

team had great idea but they failed with it because they spoke too soon and then people started to think that they can abuse it

so that's why they gave us 2 week time to haul because people wanted to abuse unlimited warp

but now we're in this stupid position

where most people are not happy

[turbid mountain]

i should use 10% food for this ? if i use more it will go to red color

[rich steeple]

only whales enjoying

[fossil smelt]

Is there any bug with supply cargo to fleet? Been trying for half an hour to do it

[spark marten]

3% is ok...for food

[spark marten]

Be good in one resource

[dusty knot]

Good evening guys, I was doing some math and wanted to hear your opinions as well. There is no convenience (only monetarily speaking) to put the food and toolkits in the star bases, is there more profit to put them in the market or am I doing something wrong? (I am ONI)

[spark marten]

Selling resources for ATLAS, OR swap LP for ATLAS is the same, ATLAS is ATLAS...

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/im-starving-to-death-al-bundy-married-with-children-im-hungry-im-famished-gif-8513711996774516943

[rich steeple]

yeah I also came to conclusion that grinding only 1 resource is now the way to go, we don't really need different resources anymore

[modest vault]

Yeah and at least selling is your choice of price

[spark marten]

100%

[cerulean hatch]

Soon there while be no crafting unless people supply food.

[rich steeple]

after 16th it should change

[spark marten]

No...you dont need to sell NIKE ADIDAS CONVERSE in your shop....sell only NIKE

[dusty knot]

wdym?

[spark marten]

food will be very important...

[rich steeple]

then labs will be closed and only way to craft is to supply starbase with food

[spark marten]

food will go above price of Toolkits

[dusty knot]

Ahh okok

[rich steeple]

ppl go to labs to craft so they wont need to supply food

[spark marten]

well also toolkits is very important when Combat arrive

[dusty knot]

Yeah but we don't get a good amount of LP, we lose money if we put it on the starbase instead of the market no?

[cerulean hatch]

Then no more crafting

[dusty knot]

It has no return; it is a loss-making investment

[spark marten]

Yep...I didnt swap any LP yet

[rich steeple]

put them to market and let other people who want LP use them on starbase

[dusty knot]

Sisi I understand, I was making an argument only from the economic point of view of toolkit and food

[rich steeple]

toolkits = tax for LP 😄

[stray marsh]

It’s called a sunk cost in economics

[dusty knot]

Okok

[spark marten]

but again all depends what is your plan in game, the size of your fleet etc etc...

[turbid mountain]

what i need to do next now ?

[rich steeple]

it's very hard to decide on the plan, i just go back and forth between the bases 😄

at least it's giving me pilot xp 😄

[spark marten]

undock

and mine what ever you want

[rich steeple]

full refuel before

[turbid mountain]

need fill that withdraw space ?

[spark marten]

is you have a small fleet mine hydrogen

[turbid mountain]

i click on it but it gives error

[spark marten]

refresh

control F5

[rich steeple]

ahh you're already full fuel, sometimes need to refresh because it doesn't update all values

[turbid mountain]

my means i need to choose all of this 4 assets and then click on undock ?

[rich steeple]

if you want to mine then you need 3, fuel, food and ammo. Toolkits are for scanning SDUs but this will change soon so you don't need to think about that too much for now

[turbid mountain]

here i have fuel , amm , food , and toolkits in my fleet . i need choose them all full ?

[rich steeple]

only fuel and ammo full.

food you don't need much

if you undock and click on mining then it shows you how much food your fleet need to mine full cargo

[turbid mountain]

oh . 😄 . for scanning i need use tookits , not food . yes ? for mining i need use food instead of toolkits . yes ?

[gusty rapids]

I still cannot connect any of my profilers via ledger on starbased :/

Any tips?

[rich steeple]

scanning is complicated right now, there is 2 different systems where 1 uses toolkits in old game and now we use food and this all will change a lot in 1 week, so I wouldn't waste too much time for this 😄
but for mining: fuel, ammo, food

[turbid mountain]

i choose full fuel and full amm . and clicked on undock .it said success . but nothing changed . what is next ?

[rich steeple]

on the left click on your fleet and you should see these buttons

[pulsar moat]

Any work around the stop mining bug where it leaves 1 cargo space available

?

[jade grotto]

its not a bug. its always going to be that way

[limpid light]

Anyone else having problems claiming buddy-link rewards?

[jade grotto]

when mining you can only fill your cargo to 99%

[pulsar moat]

Wait so how to stop mining then? Just good ole spam txns?

[rich steeple]

yeah I think it's supposed to be like that because when last food is used you don't have food to fill the last cargo space

if you're stuck mining then it has to be some other reason

[turbid mountain]

not showing them

[carmine pelican]

Have we heard anything on when the Marketplace might work again?

[spark marten]

you didnt undock yet

[rich steeple]

refresh and check again

[west slate]

dued at that point your asking to burn extra food

[spark marten]

click here

[west slate]

and ammo for 1 unit of resorce

[pulsar moat]

My cargo is at max capacity so nothing to burn

[west slate]

you don't get it, it can't fill that without burning more food/ammo

[turbid mountain]

whats dock , subwarp and warp ?

[turbid mountain]

i need click on start mining ?

[pulsar moat]

Ok I see, but what to do

[west slate]

its the way the math works

[rich steeple]

dock puts you back to base, subwarp is slow moving, warp is fast moving but close distance

[west slate]

just ignore it

[turbid mountain]

its open now

[timber onyx]

is it still worth playing SCORE!?

[carmine pelican]

https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1225914086500597780

[rich steeple]

yes, click start mining

[carmine pelican]

Eventually it will exit mining, could be hours. My last instance it was about 20 mins

[pulsar moat]

Oh man I have limited time to play,

[rich steeple]

ah ok there is some issue then, weird haven't seen it before. Could be rounding issue caused by different ships in same fleet

[turbid mountain]

@rich steeple @spark marten : click on initiate mining now ?

[carmine pelican]

Dunno, it's happened to me 3 or 4 times across the last few days

[spark marten]

yes mate!!

[turbid mountain]

what after that ? alll is done ?

[west slate]

it has to do with network issues its not a game thing

[pulsar moat]

Happened to me more frequently recently

[carmine pelican]

yeah, maybe. Doesn't seem likely

[spark marten]

then when is full....you need to stop mining....dock....take the resources from the ship....and do all again....as you can see there....will take 14 minutes to be full...

[spring granite]

is it better to sell food at the market or put it in css?

[west slate]

exit mining has a lot of instructions and is a heavy transaction so its likely to have issues

[rich steeple]

yeah this 1 food and 1 cargo space issue must be a rounding error caused by different ships in fleet. I have same type of miners and never had such issue. Both picutres also show different ships are being used in mining

[west slate]

sell

[pulsar moat]

I hope team sees this, must be an easy fix

[west slate]

no its how mining just works because it can't fill that last cargo spot till the food is gone

and it can't mine without food

[rich steeple]

no they get 1 food back, read the topic they posted, it has pictures

[quasi glade]

Just happened to me. I had spam stop mining. No clue which trx did it....

[rich steeple]

I dont have 1 food after i finish mining, they do

[quasi glade]

Who figured out the XP equation... I was wrong. VB 2 Earth 0

[west slate]

umm because they put in 1 food too many

[jade grotto]

Well if you're getting 1 food back after mining, just put 1 less food in your cargo b4 mining. fixed that

[west slate]

there should be a sweet spot to have empty food

[rich steeple]

ah yeah nvm lol, you're right

[pulsar moat]

I put in exact food amount

[quasi glade]

It left 1 less than advertised max cargo.

[jade grotto]

sometimes that number is 1 too high

[rich steeple]

put in 1 food less than what you think is exact

[west slate]

the amount that it tells you (unless they fixed the algo) is actually going to leave you with less then 99.9% full

[pulsar moat]

Will try this when mining stops

[west slate]

so you need to put in some more and you need to find out where the max is

[quasi glade]

Has happened twice recently, but never before that.

[west slate]

also they may have adjusted the algorithims

[turbid mountain]

yes mate . how to keep open that page again ? i closed that page showing my mine page and i cant find it

[west slate]

also the ticker is based on blocks not actual time so there could be a descrepancy there

[spark marten]

you only need to go to the planet...and then click in the ship on the left

[rich steeple]

if you click on stop mining then it will open up that page again but it actualyl will not stop mining, just opens the page

[quasi glade]

I figured that may be the case blade. It may have (or not) taken 2 trx to stop mining. If that is the case, and I am usually wrong here..... that stinks

That isnt even why I came here. What is the exact XP calc..... Is there one?

I thought i had it figured out. but nah.

[west slate]

yeah its the network, on ledger mining is the only thing I need to do 2 manual approvals for

ie just to get it to do a basic stop mining

[turbid mountain]

@spark marten@rich steeple : thanks guys for help . and everyone who helped me .
im mining now . it will earn 220 hydrogen in 14mins . how many hydrogen i need ? and hydrogen will be use for what ?

[spark marten]

for fuel

[quasi glade]

Im attributing most things to that man.... I have no expertise to know when I am right or wrong tho. lol

[turbid mountain]

i can change hydrogen to fuel ?
and how much needed minimum ?

[autumn wigeon]

guys. What can I do with 2 fighter ships in starbase?

[rich steeple]

hydrogen is used for few different things but for you I recommend to craft fuel because fuel does not need other resources other than hydrogen

it is 3:1 ratio for fuel

[turbid mountain]

means 999 hydrogen = 333 fuel ?

[spark marten]

in operations you can see all the things that you can craft

use one day to mine, and next day to craft

[pulsar moat]

Mining won't stop still though, is self destruct the last option

[turbid mountain]

oh thanks .
which is this resources we can mine is better ??

[quasi glade]

You can mine, travel, and use your crew to craft right now. Type of ship doesnt really matter so much right now, mostly their specs of cargo and feul and whatnot are important.

[turbid mountain]

which is worth to mine and sell ?

[west slate]

I'm getting dead rpc issues right now across the board even tried on brave

odds are its a network issue

[spark marten]

thats a very difficult question

All depends of your plan of game, the size of your fleet...etc etc

[quasi glade]

So we are getting xp I think each time we use a license. Where is the extra numbers coming from ya think?

[autumn wigeon]

ty so much handsome

[quasi glade]

haha. you know me too welll.

[west slate]

2 layers of caps, 1 is the 10k day lisence cap the 40k day cap is a global cap that fills regardless of if the lisence is capped or not

[pulsar moat]

Turning wifi on/off stopped mining, finally

Thanks for the actionable suggestions

[quasi glade]

ty blade. Do you know where I could read more on that?

[west slate]

yeah you just need to play around with stuff right now

[west slate]

nope, I had to figure it out myself

[rich steeple]

yeah network pooping I get 1-10min txs

[quasi glade]

like i have 72000. My license are 54000. Are the caps your talking about playing there? Or where is 18k from?

[rich steeple]

I made a refresh and my game is 2 version newer lol 😄

[west slate]

yep and combine that with overloaded rpcs stuff happens that is not picked up etc

[quasi glade]

maybe my license got capped at some point and xp didnt... Is that sound right?

[west slate]

ie part of why actually using a vpn helps kick stuff loose

[west slate]

the lisence caps at 1/4 of the global cap

[turbid mountain]

another question . i had 229 hydrogen and i clicked harvest and close mining . but after refresh it shows 52 hydrogen

what happened ?

[west slate]

extra still aplies to global exp untill that caps

[quasi glade]

so license and xp could be different bc of that.

[spark marten]

did you wait the 14 min

[west slate]

yes

[turbid mountain]

yes . its now 20 mins

[west slate]

also lisecnes still continue to progress even if global is capped

[turbid mountain]

and not going up my hydrogen

[quasi glade]

got ya. hard to prove my xp numbers to myself. lol

[rich steeple]

you may have had too few food in cargo, if food runs out then mining will not produce more product

[turbid mountain]

its not even stop progress

😄

just eat my hydrogen

[quasi glade]

Ty again @west slate

[turbid mountain]

it showed 229 hydro

and after refresh its 52

[spark marten]

make sure you have always all the requirements

[turbid mountain]

but my fuel is 450 . why it not gone down ?

[whole helm]

https://tenor.com/view/power-outages-result-from-climate-change-freezing-frozen-texas-climate-change-gif-20412762

[turbid mountain]

i had 10 food

[turbid mountain]

oh hydrogen gone to cargo changed with my food

but why it dont get stop mining ?

how i can send food to stop it ?

[mortal lark]

somebody is leaving labs

whale train

[rich steeple]

probably realized that SDUs are worthless 😄

[quasi glade]

I havent seen alomost anybody where I am at.... Hope it stays that way.

[west slate]

they still have value for 1 more week

[patent iris]

Cheap crew coming soon

[quasi glade]

Ill give ya a hint. I am on discord too much.

[west slate]

!rank

[west slate]

no I am

[quasi glade]

lol....

[turbid mountain]

if i havent enough food in cargo and i mine and it finished and there is a lil hydrogen mined but i havent enough food . i cant stop mining ???

what happening ?

[west slate]

I need to beat signa's main account

[cedar wyvern]

ustur CSS are down .🤝

[quasi glade]

But I am here due to traveling. I dont see like one ship going after what I am..... Im either real dumb or real smart.

[rugged bridge]

Solana just found the problem... 😆😂

[west slate]

no its btc pump + new meme coins

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/slip-mood-robot-oops-boston-robotics-gif-17202212

[west slate]

ie the fincane crypto bros are raiding sol

[turbid mountain]

no ne knows ?

[rich steeple]

you should be able top stop mining, could be network problem. Currently it is very unstable. Just try occasional refresh

[turbid mountain]

ok mate

[quasi glade]

https://tenor.com/view/jhon-cena-windows-update-update-windows-jhon-gif-19395779

[west slate]

what I do is I push each transaction through, follow up on tx chains that work, then refresh and try again - that works assuming the rpc pool is stable enough right now yeah

[rugged bridge]

From Win 10 to 11 😂😂😂😂

[west slate]

but I need to do other maintance something happened during the earthquake so I need to actually reboot the router etc (being lazy)

[quasi glade]

This give me hope man.... 🙂

[west slate]

I hope the big brother chip mandate for win 11 kills microsoft

[quasi glade]

Even my good computer says it isnt capable. f it.... Im not trying to rip it apart again.....

[west slate]

its because you don't have a tpm chip

[quasi glade]

probably.... but i also have no gd clue what that is.

[west slate]

ie best to keep it that way unless you need the security

[west slate]

its a microsoft wants to spy on you chip and control your pc

nasty stuff

[quasi glade]

figured.... quit trying in like 10 minutes.

win 10 it is i guess....

I believe you though,,,, they are nasty....

[turbid mountain]

everytime i wanna mine i need transfer 10% food to cargo ?

i cant transfer it alot and use that much needed when im mining ??

@rich steeple

[quasi glade]

That is a thing man.... Gotta find the sweet spot.... With a smaller fleet that may even be harder.... But math it up.... Numbers will be key here....

Im actually assuming something there and I apolagize. I have no idea how big anybodys fleet is....

[west slate]

yeah I am planning on reconfiguring my fleets ie 1 miner and 1 cargo instead of 2 miner 1 whatever and 1 cargo

[turbid mountain]

bigger ship will have bigger cargo capacity ?

[quasi glade]

I like numbers man.... I actually think it is one of the draws of this game..... Being effecient takes lots of thinking...... Takes my mind off thinking about other stupid s....

[west slate]

yeah for me its very rote, I run loose spreadsheets in my head constantly

[quasi glade]

Yeah man... If you check your specs on marketplace you can tell. at least that is how i do it. There are graphs and all kinds of info out there. But each ship has different specs that change your fleets efficiency..... Imagine a fighter carrying Cargo..... Doesnt sound quite right....

[quasi glade]

I can feel that from you.... lol.... I love it man...

not many ppl love stats.... lol

I could almost care less about watching actual sporting events as long as I can do advansed analysis in my own head communicating it too nobody.... I am neat.... 🙂

I also suck at spelling....

[turbid mountain]

i can make 6000 hydrogen per day . it means 2000 fuel . then i need sell it on market ? is that the way ?

[worthy galleon]

When you go into mining mode it should say the amount of Ammo and Food required for your cargo capacity.
You need some food to get the calculation, or it will just say "insufficient food".
It will also say how long it will take to fill up.
Also eveeye will give you a idea of what your mining fleet will require for all the different richness and hardness of deposits

[quasi glade]

That is one of several ways man.

[west slate]

check the numbers, sometimes its better to sell hydro then fuel

also pay attention to whats going on and what the fomo is currently

also remember there is the 7% crafting fee + the sale fee on the market

[quasi glade]

If you can afford to save up a bit King. May wanna consider it to reduce fee in that situation.... May want 2000 fuel to travel also.

[turbid mountain]

whats others way >?

[quasi glade]

You need fuel to move around the map./

[west slate]

you have to watch the market and see whats moving

[quasi glade]

You could find a trading partner in real life and trade it.

[west slate]

and learn the paterns

[pulsar moat]

#🔗┃links has a spreadsheet of ship cargo space, subwarp/fuel etc

[west slate]

also guilds etc can give other options

[turbid mountain]

hydro is sell able ? and why they should buy hydro ? it will be use for another things except changing to fuel ?

[quasi glade]

everything these guys say comes into play..... Its an economics lesson.

[turbid mountain]

im just using css . can i move ?

[west slate]

yes and there are a ton of needs for it

not just fuel

[turbid mountain]

yes .

[turbid mountain]

oh , good . thanks

[quasi glade]

yes. there are like above 15 different mining elements.... not sure that is what they are called though.

About that many different planets to mine from.

You can move about on the map in based.

Im mining Titanium right now because it has always been my favorite. it cost me about 25000 fuel per round trip.

[turbid mountain]

i see there is some have 2 assets to mine in one .

[quasi glade]

Not many sellers right now so there is price exploration.... I was gonna buy yesterday. But I need some more ships and cargo.

[turbid mountain]

if i go there i can mine both or one of them ?

[turbid mountain]

how much titanium worth in market ?

[quasi glade]

yessir. as you get further out the map. harder to mine. but faster I believe.

[west slate]

yeah most people are buying or turning their stash for lp

oh and rfrs

[quasi glade]

Not sure if any sells happened yet. buyers and sellers are playing with each other right now because it is a new element just added to base....

[spring cobalt]

guys whats is the purpose of base management, why should i supply food?

[quasi glade]

that is a difficult question. 🙂

[spring cobalt]

i supplied 10k it is gonna give me 6 atlas if i sell on marketplace it was worth 20 atlas

[west slate]

if your crafting and need to prop it up yes otherwise let a whale do it

for mud and perhaps uster everything for starbases but food/tool and sdus are more / equal to what you get for selling on the market

[steady sinew]

#MakeStarAtlasOffChain
#OnlyImportAndWithdrawOnChain
#FreeSpeach

[west slate]

nope not going to happen give it up

[quasi glade]

If you are big into thinking about the future.... LP may be turned in for blueprints at a later time that can build or upgrade ships..... You gotta hold it with diamond hands though. Nobody is 100 percent sure that will happen.

[west slate]

you do know if you want a version like that you are free to make it yourself (litrally with sa assets too)

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/zero-no-none-empty-answer-gif-14588123

[west slate]

the team allows that kind of thing, they will continue to develop on chain

[quasi glade]

Oh jesus.... hashtags....

[turbid geode]

This is so pretty.

[west slate]

if he wants it he can make it happen himself, the team is 100% fine with it

[steady sinew]

it is because we need;

#MakeStarAtlasOffChain
#OnlyImportAndWithdrawOnChain
#FreeSpeach

[quasi glade]

Ive considered doing it for them.... but I wont hashtag about it..... lol.

[west slate]

it would not be for them it would be its own thing with sa assets the team actually would like if we did it

[worthy galleon]

you can only mine one at a time, you can stop and start mining the other ore until cargo full.
Some dual deposits have different richness/hardness for either ore though.
And your food/ammo requirements could be different for each ore.

[quasi glade]

Its called Earthchain. I need some money first. I know you guys are good for it.... Earthcoin errr something

[tawny salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-so-hot-fire-burning-scorching-gif-10290972

[quasi glade]

Im conceding to them man. I think they know best honestly. Ive been here a long time and I dont honestly ever rembember them doing anything malicously..... Maybe they have faith..... Ill let it to them.

[west slate]

and why I am playing dragons dogma instead of bashing my head against that wall right now

[west slate]

still the team says we can do our own things with the assets too as long as we follow certain rules, in fact they actually want us to as it provides more utility for the assets (gives them time to build out the vision brings in more people etc)

[turbid mountain]

where i can craft ?

hydrogen to fuel ?

[turbid geode]

CSS

[honest sky]

is Solami DED?

[west slate]

depends on if someone filled it though

[turbid mountain]

i need do that when im mining ?

[quasi glade]

yeah.... I believe the off chain market is needed for guilds. and actually helpful to the onchain economy.... But that is mostly me talking out my A//// 🙂

[turbid geode]

No you mine a CSS to get Hydrogen and then craft

[honest sky]

WTB successful fleet formation transaction. WTS something for a successful transaction

[turbid mountain]

my means i just moved my hydrogen into my starbase . where to do that ?

[west slate]

its still on chain but it can be dealt with via other means

[west slate]

you dock then offload it via the hanger

[turbid geode]

Is you hydrogen in your wallet. You can bring deposit from wallet to CSS by clicking on the local inventoryh button and then import from wallet.

[west slate]

he is mining I think

[quasi glade]

true.... lol..... I could trade a ship for a sandwich though, That sandwich would actually not be onchain.

[turbid mountain]

i did . its into starbase not in wallet

[west slate]

yes but the ship (or r11/r4) transaction would need to be on chain

[quasi glade]

correct.

https://tenor.com/view/barbie-ryan-gosling-wink-margot-robbie-handsome-gif-7779535681814001194

[turbid mountain]

i can fill 249 cargo only . then i need do it seaparate time ?

[turbid geode]

If the hydrogen is in your fleet because you just mined it then dock your fleet and the select hydrogen. Then unload to starbase

[quasi glade]

Looking at that gif is making my eye twitch... wth

Ken shoulda been some good looking guy like me..... pfff

🙂

later dudes.

[turbid mountain]

whats this means ?

[mellow sinew]

gm

[gloomy elbow]

No I still eat Solami

[split solar]

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[turbid mountain]

@gloomy elbow

[gloomy elbow]

It means you have no spare crew in your starbase for crafting

[honest sky]

wish i could, cant get a single normal wallet transaction through in SB right now

[turbid mountain]

whats that ? where i neeed get them ?

[gloomy elbow]

If you have ships that are not formed into fleets the crew will stay in your starbase and are available to work on crafting

[gloomy elbow]

They come with ships

if youhave 1 xxs small ship in your starbase then you will also have 1 crew member

[turbid mountain]

so why i havent it now ?

i have 1 xx small ship

[west slate]

you need to have loose ships right now its the primary use for xxs ships (as they are the cheapest option per crew, and most liquid to get rid of later)

also bigger ships have utility that makes having them craft not the best use

[turbid mountain]

you means i need close my fleet and my ship back to starbase to do craft ?

[west slate]

or buy more ships

[gloomy elbow]

this guy is the crew

[turbid mountain]

ok got it

[turbid mountain]

he is in fleet rn 😄

[west slate]

efffectivly you need min 1 unused xxs ship to craft

[turbid mountain]

got it . thanks bro

[gloomy elbow]

ah thats why you have no crew,he has to park the bike in the starbase and hang around in the bar...

[turbid mountain]

haha . yes .
thanks

[gloomy elbow]

Also this airbike guy is a lazy hippy who smokes a lot of reefer and doesnt do much work anyway

A bit like Santi

[turbid mountain]

what you suggest to buy for better income ?

[gloomy elbow]

A Titan

[turbid mountain]

where is that ? 😄

[west slate]

sold out atm

[turbid mountain]

what ? it was in marketplace ?

[west slate]

check again last time I looked they were gone

[daring plover]

@uneven umbra

[valid yoke]

Wanting to experiment with they SLY tool

Any reviews from anyone?

[waxen raven]

Working 😉

[valid yoke]

Where's their link at??

Is it allowed to be linked here?

[waxen raven]

ImGroovin/SLY-Assistant in google

[valid yoke]

Dang

Kinda complicated 😛

Is there any tutorials anywhere?

[copper fjord]

yea i believe satoshimama did one

[slow oriole]

MUD CSS is dead too. Can someone cover for 4 hours? After this I will move my crafting manufacturing back to sage, until devs fix this issue.

[waxen raven]

https://tenor.com/view/nich-bad-nft-gif-23770085

[slow oriole]

Also, in order to craft food you need food, although unlikely due to space stations also generating food, but it is possible that if our faction runs out of food, the game will come to a hault. Generally, you want to have base materails renewable to avoid this loop. As a crafter I could have easily crafted some food, but since I don't own a station, and there is no food, I can only buy it from the market at overpriced rates.

[tawny salmon]

looks like that at first, but don't let that discourage you. give it a go and you'll see it is actually super simple

[waxen raven]

That's the rule of life... or just capitalism

[slow oriole]

Well, I can go fishing if I ran out of food. It's a renewable resource (Although, I feel bad for the fishes), and I only need a fishing rod, which I can craft myself if needed.

[slow oriole]

I am literally writing an a scholarly essay on the capitalism as we speak) so don't get me started, but I see where you are aiming at)

[waxen raven]

You are asking for 14M food... like it was raining

[proper flicker]

Does anyone know what happened to Sage.labs. nothing works. Wouldn't it be until the 16th?

[slow oriole]

Well, devs want us to work as in communism, some people will need to sacrifice for the benefit of the rest, how about I put some food, for 30 mins and others do that too?

[slow oriole]

No, idea, I was just thinking of moving there. Maybe they stopped it on purpose, or some technical error

[waxen raven]

ask your dac to coordinate to craft at a specific time... It is not communism just org

[mighty lance]

well, technically your body needs to have enough energy in it to fish 😃

[slow oriole]

I would agree, but if my dac will be contributing for 4 hours, this means the rest will use it for free

[waxen raven]

Oh unbelievable it also needs food

[mighty lance]

yep, lol

[slow oriole]

Well, two things I see, if the crafting rate drops, that will eventually lower LP which will make food donation profitable or atleast =, but this means we may have these outtages a lot, if there are not enough people with space station to generate it.

[waxen raven]

Launch your craft and wait, maybe with droplets it'll finish

[mighty lance]

i think once sage is shut down the whales will stop crafting there and they'll end up providing food in based if only so they can craft more profitable stuff for themselves

i do think an LP increase for food could be a good solution too though, otherwise most people will be tempted to leach and not provide any food

[slow oriole]

I agree, or they can lower the burn rate. Someone said that their trying to burn excess food, but that like saying they are trying to burn excess money lol.

[mighty lance]

yeah, that would definitely help too

[waxen raven]

If lp increases it also will increase for whales...

[mighty lance]

the game is definitely coming along though, i'm having fun and looking forward to the rest of the roadmap

[slow oriole]

I think at our current situation the whales are benefited in any way, with enough crafting power, they can craft things in minutes, just enough as they supplied.

but normal players would not be able to do this

[stray pike]

Hi everyone,
I've been unable to claim rewards from 2 of my faction fleet ships for a week now. The loading circle just keeps rotating and nothing happens. Any known issues or fixes?

[slow oriole]

Check in support, I think they had some issues with it, but I thought they have resolved it.

[stray pike]

Thank you

[rare garden]

thoughts on how starbases have more toolkits than food? is food just more valuable now that it can do more things?

[spring bridge]

is cancel and withdraw in crafting working ?? i am having some troubles

[rare garden]

i had to reload a few times but finally worked

[serene willow]

Things will behave like this until 16th. Lots of crafting happening in Labs, to circumvent the need to waste food.

It will all balance out.

[serene willow]

Indeed, but once whales supply it, small players can ride along.

[rare garden]

i love riding big whales

[serene willow]

Don't reply to DMs, all scammers

[spiral plank]

how to use Survey Data Unit? this for scan item probablitas 100% or what?

[west slate]

they are used in crafts and starbase upgrades, most people who scan sell them

[rustic wolf]

Is there still supposed to be a Solana update on the 12th to hopefully fix some of the congestion?

[topaz pine]

Looks like April 15th now

[split solar]

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[spare bronze]

LP claim reward doesnt work? Could not claim my yesterday reward....

[heavy basalt]

i could not claim Lp reward now

[spare bronze]

Yes. Both today and yesterday for me😅

[lime lichen]

It works just takes a while

[spare bronze]

Everything doesnt work for me atm, including forming fleet, load resources....the wallet window doesnt pop up at all....

[honest sky]

its pretty rought out there

[lime lichen]

Hit f12 then console and check what rpc is loading refresh until you get helius or quicknode

[spare bronze]

Should be my wallet issue as i can connect to the game...

[lime lichen]

What wallet are u using? Also make sure your wallet extension didn’t crash

[spare bronze]

Solflare...

[lime lichen]

Check to see it didn’t crash. Solflare just did a stupid update and it always crashes after that because it has to load its dumb little presentation

[spare bronze]

How to get rpc info...failed to fetch info...including connection$3._rpc request

[lime lichen]

Are u in based or labs?

[spare bronze]

Based

It was working a while ago

[lime lichen]

It will be the first line that comes up upon refresh in the console

[spare bronze]

Okay.

I see

[lime lichen]

Make sure u reload solflare via extensions

[spare bronze]

Am on triton

[lime lichen]

Triton blows ctrl f5 till quicknode or helius

Hellomoon sucks also fyi lol

[quasi glade]

Another airdrop USA isnt eligible for. Tensor. I get to miss like 3 out of every 5 airdrops bc im restricted.... Would VPN hack that?

[lime lichen]

Yes use a vpn

[quasi glade]

really?

[spare bronze]

Im on quicknode now. It works again...Thanks man!!

[lime lichen]

VPN to Europe usually works

[quasi glade]

jesus.... I shoulda did that for the last 7....

[lime lichen]

Np glad I could help

[spare bronze]

Learnt sth new today....🤣

[quasi glade]

Does google itself provide a vpn i can use against it.... 🙂

[lime lichen]

lol I dunno I use one through my antivirus software

[quasi glade]

I have to figure it out..... I hate going to work.... 😦

🙂

I did get some wuffi tho.... 50 bucks in the bank... 🙂

I may hold it.

[rustic wolf]

right on, ty sir

[quasi glade]

These airdrops are just dropping on me totally out of the blue..... Mostly bc I get involved in 1 project that leads to another..... Endless economic loop..... Someone should make an airdrop simulator....

gm

Im gonna go get a vpn running. ty for the prompt answer @lime lichen

[lime lichen]

glad i could help

[placid jungle]

If my fleet is in css, can I move my cargoes in css to ONI-4 via wallet?

Because there is no food in css right now, so I can't craft it.

So I want to move the cargo stored in css to another area

[viscid atlas]

I'm looking forward to buying a bigger ship. Where can I see the comparisons? I am interested in knowing the size of the loading bay based on what is seen in Starbase. But I don't know where that information is. Someone knows?

[sour hearth]

siphaawal has been warned

Reason: Posted a link

[mellow mural]

Won't let me post links but check out the Nancy tool for star atlas ships by Aephia

[viscid atlas]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit?pli=1#gid=205337066

here it is

thanks

[worthy galleon]

Cargo has to be moved by ships.
Cant move via wallet.
Can only move into and out of CSS via wallet.
Example, to sell stuff on the Marketplace or bring in stuff you bought on Marketplace.

[lost fiber]

Real world greed, capitalism and resource hoarding should tell us the current starbase upkeep model isn’t going to work in its current state.

[placid jungle]

Is it possible that the css will refill the depleted food?

[west slate]

someone needs to refill it

its not just going to happen

the catch is that odds are someone will refill it though

[lost fiber]

Yea, just enough to craft with their 1000+ crew lolz

[west slate]

yeah but if you have stuff running it still works as those run though

[topaz sleet]

Dude!

We have to do some math here… I spent 8 bucks and got nothing back so far!

[lost fiber]

That’s a good point I didn’t consider. So it can just pick up next time it’s stocked up. I’m just salty I wasted time and fees moving all my fleets to SB only to move them RIGHT back to Sage 🤣

[topaz sleet]

4 xp and 600k lp

Just it

[spiral ravine]

Any suggestions RFR is stuck .. cancel or deposit?

[west slate]

deposit should actually run the tx again and fill in what your missing

[serene willow]

Not really

There's a trick

[west slate]

expalin it to the other guy he's the one that actually needs the advice

[serene willow]

You have to go back to the craft tab, input exactly (EXACTLY) how many RFR you did to start the original craft, then go back to instances tab, and click deposit.

If it doesn't help after a few attempts, just cancel and start over.

But clicking deposit without doing this won't do it.

It's stupid, I know. But... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[west slate]

actually this is why we are more likely to get crafted stuff via a lp shop vs crafing again because big complex crafts break under the current network conditions

[viscid atlas]

If I buy an IMP ship and integrate it into my fleet, will the rest of the fleet stop consuming ammunition when mining?

[opal void]

I had that happen to me. It fixed itself after 36 hours, then I could claim again.

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[mighty lance]

no the other ships will still use ammo

[west slate]

what do you know, change the vpn all the way to japan and stuff is slow but works

guess the local nyc rpc servers are getting slammed by meme coin traders and what not

[slow oriole]

Well, there is a new mechanic potentially open, the freighting only benefits from such shortages, so if you're a small player and got enough cargo space you can quit crafting and move into frieghting sector, this is what I am thinking of doing if the refill shortages grow. 3X more money can be made there if the LP is low. I just can't find a good strategy for the shipping, as the medium friegheters are pricy and shipit is still overpriced due to announce, it's weird that they didn't release a small frieghter in the start. It may be cheaper to buy multiple tufa feist (or their exquvelant) instead of big freighter, but I may be wrong?

[west slate]

they could not have predicted that they would be this needed, also there is the 35% off from referals your forgetting about

[slow oriole]

huh? What do you mean about the 35% referals?

[west slate]

what you don't know that self referal is allowed?

look up the referal program

[slow oriole]

Oh, you mean referring yourself to buy the ship and get cash back on another account?

[west slate]

yes, its allowed, in fact the devs even helped yell at people who were doing hidden ref links

[modest vault]

ANyone have the screenshot w/ the faction claim production?

[desert beacon]

You mean lp?

What you mean?

[modest vault]

no I mean faction claims

[desert beacon]

Oh claimstakes

[modest vault]

yeah sorry

[normal finch]

Starcomm down?

[modest vault]

thought ther was a pin

[lost fiber]

mine is

[west slate]

its still pinned, just scroll down a bit

[modest vault]

I actually can't believe we don't have a wiki

lol

kind of wild

[slow oriole]

I thought of that, but still that might have worked perfectly when the game was just released and ships price was going higher thant their wap, that's when I bought, unfortunately. But still even with referrals the shipit's price will go down to possibly 200$ overtime, consistant with other ships of small class

[west slate]

I think we do, just nobody is updating it

[modest vault]

ty

[lost fiber]

starcom's back

[west slate]

no freight will remain higher, just like how miners are higher

[slow oriole]

yes, most probable, as now they have value.

[spiral ravine]

Marketplace tax rate for sales is showing 6% even with staked Atlas discounts.., even for RFR ..anyone else seeing that? Isnt RFR not taxed as well?

[west slate]

another thing if you listen to the very early stuff (ie pre the piviot to sage) ie when the ships were first released, you would see that what we were supposed to be playing would be some weird take on the gotcha game mission thing with some type of weird web based galaxy map, this is so much better so there is no way the needs we have now could have been predicted back then

what we have now and what we were sold on back when the ships went on sale are very diffrent and I am much happeier with the current product

[past knoll]

Would 've been great, when they had miners for sale at the start 😉

[west slate]

again things went this direction a lot faster then anticipated, just be happy the ships are avalible now

[past knoll]

I'm not ranting. Things are evolving great from my point of view.. I just wish i had the opportunity to buy some miners in the bear 😅

[west slate]

true, but it is what it is

[past knoll]

aye

[wispy widget]

There’s a community created wiki

Was abandoned I think unfortunately

[honest sky]

Im manual scanning for SDUs but getting this error

[modest vault]

low on SOL?

[honest sky]

Nah, i have like 30 SOL in the wallet

[modest vault]

interesting

[honest sky]

looks like it wants to send me 10 SDU

but

they never get to my scannign fleet

keeps happening on manul scans ( no scripts etc )

Another for my OPOD failing

[west slate]

don't think its about that I think its about the funds needed to process the transaction that need to be set asside when the tx happens no amount of sol in the wallet will fix that, that stuff is wonky right now

[honest sky]

So, just blockchain being fucked at the moment? 🙂

[west slate]

think so, as it looks like the sol version of the eth out of gas problem

I mean I just was like f it and put my vpn to a time zone about as close to 12 hrs away as I could

and that actually fixed a lot of the rpc problems

starbased is being slow but its working ish

ie the network is a hot mess, could also be the nyc anti crypto bs because god forbid something overturns wallstreet

[honest sky]

i have a quicknode for some other scripted stuff, but, noticed i wasnt getting any SDUs. Tried manually, saw same problem, then looked on blockchain explorer and saw those weird errors which seems like it WANTED to send me SDUs from scanning.. but, they never arrive

[west slate]

do you have priority fees turned on

[honest sky]

in the SB app, i do

[west slate]

or if your in labs do you have it set up in the assistant

[honest sky]

But seems like in general, anying manual in SB only like 1/20 actions make it through

[west slate]

yeah

btw another meme coin is launching

[honest sky]

Most things in labs assictant workiing fine now, mining etc etc. Just randomly noticed assistant wasnt getting me SDUs which lead to me investigating

[west slate]

tnsr supposedly, orca is mentioning it

could also be an issue with the rewards wallet

did you check the wallet trying to send the sdus

[west slate]

yeah check the sdu balance in the sending wallet

could be we need to flag the team to put more in

[honest sky]

well, this is the "source" above

not good at this shit, haha

[west slate]

yeah the reward wallet is empty it seems

coppy paste that address so I can check

[honest sky]

https://solscan.io/account/8NnoitUFNWJzEMZLrKE9YP9PW4o2jXbXNJjJdcdyhPux#transactions

see a lot fo burned food transactions there, and failed transactions

[west slate]

yep thats the reward wallet

and there is the problem

its empty

[honest sky]

https://tenor.com/view/im-scared-what-she-said-gif-21515426

[west slate]

<@&809877248572260394> we need a refill on the sdu reward wallet

[limber steeple]

thanks. will let the team know

[honest sky]

@west slate appreciate you walking me through that, validating i wasnt crazy 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/going-crazy-willem-dafoe-grin-smile-gif-16959907

[west slate]

yep the good part about the all on chain thing is we can actualy do a lot more investigating and trouble shooting

[signal raven]

Anyone actually able to play Starbased? All my fleets are dead in the water. Even this late at night, no TXS are working. bleh

[honest sky]

same, have to click 100 times, and maybe 1 time works

[signal raven]

Forget this. I'll keep an eye out and maybe one day Solana will work again. I heard some rumor about a patch coming out on the 15th..

[west slate]

I put my vpn to japan and a lot more transactions are going through and less dead rpcs

not sure how well that will work in a few hours though

ie its around noon there

oh right its 2pm there now

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[strong cliff]

Food gone at mud css, game over

[tall igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/utility-bills-are-coming-ultility-bills-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming-gif-20997797

[opal rain]

🚨daily report 👉#🐤┃community-tweets message

[mystic mango]

I was getting stuff through until about 20 minutes ago. Did we break something?

[limber steeple]

nah, it's most likely Solana. I needed to do a hard refresh for the past half an hour hehe

[mystic mango]

We need a discord bot and thread called game status that's literally just voting green up arrows and red down arrows and we can report when we're getting screwed. It would be much less isolating/frustrating to see all that red and know we're all in the same boat.

[tall igloo]

i'm getting tx through decently well, but have to refresh until i get quicknode rpc

[steady sinew]

People help me, put food on the base, I want to craft

[gusty river]

Anyone else having issues getting past the "Welcome to Sage Labs" screen on mobile device with starbased? Can't scroll down to press continue

[wraith valve]

This game is built on the wrong blockchain. Can't get a single transaction to go through.

[lost fiber]

Same at Oni. It'd be nice if some of those capital ship owners tossed some pocket change in their CSS.

[wraith valve]

Was going to shut down my Sage and move over to Starbased but literally can't do anything.

Can you imagine if we were playing a live-action game and all floating around in space hoping for a transaction to go through??? Lol!

[steady sinew]

#MakeStarAtlasOffChain
#OnlyImportAndWithdrawOnChain
#FreeSpeach

[west slate]

again if thats what you want your free to make a version of the game thats off chain should you want to

[wraith valve]

How about on a chain that actually works?

[west slate]

ok what chain would be able to do that, besides the games working now

[wraith valve]

Not working for me.

[lost fiber]

It's still early. Things were wroking pretty great before this recent congestion.

[wraith valve]

I don't care which chain as long as it works. HBAR is handling more transactions than Solana without a zillion failed transactions.

[west slate]

try using a japan vpn node

[west slate]

right I doubt it

every time someone comes in with a new bc that they say is better any real investigation shows its not, so you need to do better

[rain plinth]

we need a refill on the sdu reward wallet

[wraith valve]

It's just facts, man. Check out Chainspect TPS Dashboard. Hedera is doing 1,845 tx/s to Solana's 957 tx/s, but I've literally never had a failed transaction on Hedera.

[rain plinth]

Food gone at mud css, game over ?

[west slate]

umm sol does more then 957 tx a second

[rain plinth]

R4??

[west slate]

sol does more then 2k tps

[west slate]

yeah I poked a mod about that earlier, no update yet

[gentle lodge]

The debate "on chain/not on chain" really should be in the middle.. Ie. Use the blockchain where it makes sense... Ie. needs for high performance, scalability, or security items should be offchain... Low to mid level transaction items, like buying, selling, trading, movement/crafting, reports, etc. Perfect on chain... Bottom line, the SA business should not have a critical point of failure where the whole biz stops if Solana struggles... some key activities should still work.... That is just good enterprise design...

[rain plinth]

EARN REWARDS BY ENLISTING SHIPS TO THE FACTION FLEET! R4 no?

[west slate]

https://discordapp.com/channels/789226204980707409/799477788393996288/1227098844240805939

[west slate]

the r4 supply is from players

so someone needs to fill it

[rain plinth]

so someone needs to fill it! yes fill!

[wraith valve]

Like I said, I don't care which chain. But I've been playing Star Atlas for a long time now, and failed transactions has been a problem for pretty much that whole time. Can't remember a time that I claimed all my SAGE rewards without having the resubmit multiple transactions. Kind of takes the fun out.

[west slate]

yes and sage is not exactly meant to be that point, sage when we have the full game out is meant to be what we use to manage our stuff while at work and what not

[west slate]

the fact is the other chain is not exactly going to hold up under the pressure

[wraith valve]

According to Chainspect, it already is.

[gentle lodge]

I hope we build something that allows for some form of automation or keep SCORE at a low minimum yield... there are times in life where you just cant game... so putting assets into a holding pattern where they still earn something helps...

SCORE was super handy when I had to travel on business internationally for a week with VERY low time to "play" or do crypto...

[west slate]

umm yeah and we just don't have the starbased automation tools yet because its been out for what 5 days

also we don't have the player profile system etc yet

ie we need to wait for more of the package

[thorny lagoon]

they already work, I am using them, helps a lot with the sol network issues too

[west slate]

also the first actual playtest of ue5 is on the 20th so thats soon too

[gentle lodge]

Yah.. not complaining.. just hoping it does not get lost... I also am hoping the SA team builds/vettes/blesses the function/capability versus depending on the community...

It is just safer

[west slate]

yeah but does it take care of everything yet

[west slate]

yeah, it takes time but we will get there

[gentle lodge]

Of course!

[worthy galleon]

I start really long crafts equal too how long I think I will be away.
Complex/slow ones are good.

[gentle lodge]

Just wanted to throw that out there... 🙂

[thorny lagoon]

not yet, but you can time your gameplay still - crafting takes a lot of time depending what you do, and upgrading a starbase too. These are not automated, but something you chose to do strategically anyway

[gentle lodge]

Yah... long crafts help, but even with that, when I was on international travel on different timezones, biz meetings, limited internet, etc. I still would have had long down periods of not earning...

I think it should not be a problem to have something like a super low SCORE still in play until something better is built for example...

[west slate]

honestly a lot of what we need will be easy once we have the dao at full capacity

so again its were just not there yet is all

[gentle lodge]

Or heck.. just bless/ingest the work someone like SLY does and vette it so that everyone knows it is secure...

[gentle lodge]

True.

[thorny lagoon]

I am guessing an official feature that will take care of sub-profile/account permissions would mean wider adoption of community-made tools for automation. Because as long as you trust your ships will not disappear from your wallet it is much easier to trust the automation doing stuff in game

[west slate]

yep thats a big part of it, also theres a lot of sol that can get locked up with the tools and what not

also with the dao its we can run audits via dao resources for tools that we deem worth it

so the actual vision allows so much to just open up

we just need to get there and resist the urge to burn it down before we do

no rage quitting

[thorny lagoon]

That used to be the case with some rent accounts, but this issues seems to be fixed for SLY automation last version. No such issues with tdonovan repo in the labs version ( have not tried this for starbased but I will get there eventually )

[west slate]

yeah, its just going to get a lot better once we can get the dao to help with audits

ie community trust and all that

[thorny lagoon]

As long as we have official control over permissions that are audited and bug free it will be much safer to use third party community tools that are not audited. Each new version needs an audit so that could mean a lot of side budged for that.

just saying - solution might be around the corner

[west slate]

yeah I know, the fact is I bet that the community would vote to actually have the sly tool on an offical audit list

[gentle lodge]

Agree... Not all tools would get blessed for the ongoing costs... but the SLY tool most definitely would...

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, I totally agree with you on that one

[west slate]

also that would mean that the people in sly developing it could even get paid to do the work at some point ie be on the direct dao payroll

[gentle lodge]

The largest driver to accelerate the DAO (IMHO) should be to do exactly that... pay to bring in extra 3rd party development parties to accelerate build of SA...

[west slate]

and this is why bc gaming is better then trad gaming could you see bliz ever allowing any of that

[gentle lodge]

Split the money, via the DAO and suddenly Marketplace, automation, new UI/maps, reports, etc. all come online with ATMTA focused solely on game dev...

Right now, they have to do it all, and support it all...

Which means tradeoffs...

And a support budget that I am sure is getting hard to keep up with..

They could be governing and auditing, versus build and support...

[west slate]

I mean we still need to get the dao to a point where it can take the ip and do it all

[gentle lodge]

and focus on building the game and CORE features only..

[west slate]

but all that other stuff will actually help get us there long term

[gentle lodge]

Yah, but a good baby step would be to get it up and running to help fund/audit/govern additional functionality for Starbased, etc.

[west slate]

I'm sure atmta would be fine doing the heavy lifting a few years longer if it meant a much better qol for players

[gentle lodge]

Yah, I am sure they would.. but clearly what we have in play now is difficult for them to support/keep up with.. we have so many things going...

Support is going to be super heavy as we move forward...

[west slate]

also legal reasons, the usa sucks big time for that

[gentle lodge]

The hardest thing in any start up is not the opportunity side.. it is figuring out what to say "no" to... and doing only the things that are critical... Everything else you outsource or hire for....

[west slate]

ie stuff like gambling will be allowed but atmta can't officaly let it happen

[steady sinew]

I have 3 profiles. How to delete and keep Just one?

[late pollen]

Someone did. Maybe if you hurry ...

[gentle lodge]

Those things should not be brought in/owned by ATMTA or the DAO.. like I was saying... not all 3rd party tools/experiences would get audited, funded, brought in... lol....

You wanna leave SA proper to visit Jabba's lair and gamble... have at it.... but SA/ATMTA/DAO dont have anything to do with that...

[west slate]

yep the players participating in and running it are the ones who take full responsibility for any issues

also note why the usa hates the bc it can't control it

[gentle lodge]

Gonna sound like a consipiracy theorist, but I think that is what the ETFs are all about...

[west slate]

write down the first part of the one thats correct

[gentle lodge]

The Gov could not buy out things like BTC.. but millions of retail investors and institutions can.... slower, but eventually boom... gotcha...

[west slate]

yep thats exactly what they are about, still they can't fully enforce that stuff on chain

[west slate]

yeah thats the big issue, people like gates, musk, zuck etc could make a phone call and be like you see those bcs I want them and boom they got it

it might take time but eventually they will get enough stake control

note this is where people who are invested in sa buy polis and perma lock it so they can't sell it, make them go after us for our wallets themselves

[rain plinth]

R4 fill ok! thank all!

[gentle lodge]

I do wish we had some sort of status for Based... Ie. a simple dashboard showing lag on Solana, lag on Starcomm, number of successful transactions per number submitted, etc.

This would save a lot of time and frustration for folks... heck, we may even start to identify the best times to even try to play...

Right now, it is super frustrating to keep endlessly submitting with failed transactions and not know where, what, is dead... lol...

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[west slate]

wouldn't be accurate, as it would only show what the rpcs actually collect

ie the big problem is likely 50% if not more of the failed transactions is rpc nodes failing

[gentle lodge]

It took a while to get all the ships from my wallet into Based... but the first fleet I forme up is stuck Mining.... no matter what I do, nor how many times I try...

[west slate]

ie there is no network reason why swapping to a time zone half way across the world would fix anything on sol, it does fix rpc problems though

[gentle lodge]

So you are basically switching regions to where traffic is lighter?

[west slate]

I mean that depends, its 2am here so trafic would be heavier there

[gentle lodge]

Kinda surprised the Solana network doesnt do that automatically... cloud has been doing that for years now...

[west slate]

but I would think that the majority of meme coin traders are here in the states

the real question would be how well it performs closer to prime time

when japan is asleep

that will show more of whats going on with the network vs local rpc nodes

also the earthquake seemed to do something to my ip adress, I finally got around to actually rebooting the router today when I started playing with the vpn again

[gentle lodge]

So... gotta ask... no one is refueling food in the CSS... so no crafting... Is that because the economic incentive to do so is sucky?

[west slate]

nope everyone is crafting in labs because food is getting shafted in comparison to actual upgrade products

[gentle lodge]

No crafting means the market will be impacted... lol.

[stark juniper]

Is everything still having problems with solana transactions failing?

[gentle lodge]

LOL... so to sum up.... "Everyone! Go to Starbased, NOW! We are clipping SCORE, and shutting down LABS!" But then at the same time.... "Well, lets leave LABS with a much better incentive... this way everyone waits til the last minute, and we get slammed when Solana wont let them transfer out easy...." LOL...

Also leaves those of us that jumped over with a "less than optimal" gaming experience... lol....

[west slate]

the whales went ape, people got burned big time and here we are

[gentle lodge]

They should have left the crafting, fees, drop rates, etc. the same or even sweeter in based to entice folks over... they will be buried in Support and ill will again with this move... they should do an econ adjust on that asap.... lol...

If they dont want to back off that, perhaps giving MEGA LP for folks that contribute food now...

Saw lots of posts that the LP Atlas payout was not very good as well...

Not gonna lie.. it was a battle for the last week (no earning at all) to get out of SCORE (it was dead) and all night just to get my ships from wallet to Based.

[west slate]

oh it was for people who mostly submitted fraimworks etc, anyone who put in tool, food, and sdus got burnt big time

[gentle lodge]

Now I find out based is a ghost town... lol...

[west slate]

also means the whales will be putting tool kits in, as thats required for the actual payouts

[gentle lodge]

All night to move my MUD wallet in... and I guess I will just mine Hydro until based starts going....

Perhaps tomorrow (day 6 of not earning) I will drop my ONI fleet in labs I guess... Tired of not making ANY money through all this.. meanwhile everything else i own is going Pop! LOL...

EIther way, gonna have to give up tonight.. I need to sleep, and spending 2 hours to get ships from my wallet to the ghost town is enough work... I dont want to fight forming up a fleet etc. when I cannot even complete a single mining task! Ouch...

[west slate]

going to be honest my primary operation ie my main mining fleet as well as my main transport are busy mining 2 of the new resources, everything else is just working on food and iron production mostly

[gentle lodge]

Is there a map of resources out there yet?

Or is the old map we had still relevant?

[west slate]

old map is still very usefull there is only 1 node of each of the new resources per faction so its rather easy to see where it is

[gentle lodge]

This seems like a bug, not a solana thing: My fleet has a full Cargo of Hydro at the CSS... but I cannot stop mining... nor can I dock... Is this a lost cause/bug? Should I self destruct?

[limber steeple]

try doing a hard refresh a number of times. happens to me too.

or disconnect, hard refresh, reconnect and check status

[shut bramble]

@topaz pine thanks

[west slate]

I think part of it could be the primary transaction went through but the secondary got messed up, its broken up into create account and move resource and the actual disengage

japan also seems to be a good vpn target, slow but working closer to 70% sucess rate

[lost fiber]

every tx is taking multiple attempts. I don't think it's necessarily a Star Atlas bug

[lost fiber]

What vpn do you use? I could never get it work with my vpn on

[west slate]

nord

[cold ledge]

gm

[west slate]

just started turning it on for starbased today, as its been working decent until like the past 2 days

part of putting it off was the earthquake seemed to mess up my ip adress or something

and I was too lazy to reboot the router as everything I needed was otherwise working

[shut bramble]

hello my grandchild ❤️ ❤️

[thorny lagoon]

Some steps for troubleshooting that might help. Open dev tools ( usually f12, but right click on the page and inspect should work also ). Open the console and set the log level to verbose. Now when you attempt to stop mining or dock do you get a failed transaction in wallet, no transaction response at all or transaction simulation failed ( like the one showed in the screenshot ):

Also when in dev tools right click on the refresh button and select Empty cache and hard reload just in case. A bit like buffed hard refresh

[valid yoke]

Anyone online using Labs Assistant

[tawny salmon]

yup

[valid yoke]

What's a good Lamport setting for mining?

[west slate]

I fixed 90% of the issues putting the vpn in japan, everything is a lot slower but next to no random rpc issues and closer to 70% success rate on tx

need to refresh a lot to force state changes to update though

[tawny salmon]

are you using a private rpc with the assistant? if so, I think you can get away with 1, I have been using 10k yesterday and today tho and everything was smooth
if no priv rpc, you probably have to experiment, unless someone else have info on that

[thorny lagoon]

I am using 1 lamport with Solflare just enough to make it a prio transaction. However I am using the refresh on stuck fleet with auto start ( last two options ). Also make sure you are running the latest version 0.5.2 as it also has the 4 rpcs in it. That way if it gets stuck it will refresh after some time and attempt the operation again. I am not sure setting a higher prio fee actually helps when the tx are failing

have not tested the scanning yet, I am waiting for the new mechanics to kick off after a few days

[west slate]

the higher prio fee can help but is largely unecessary

ie thats more or less the take from sol tech discord

I think there might be an actual threshold but hard to tell where that actually is due to the fees being mostly bloated

a big part is the block height and the fact that sol tx have a tendency to time out if not processed fast enough

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, looking at the logs I see lot of tx failing to register at all and I almost have no failed tx in history sooo... it works for me that way although might not be optimal settings. Once I start testing with scanning will have more data on that. I am actually planning to up the test game and have one browser operate the scanning and one browser operate the mining/transport running two separate lancer accounts on the same main profile. It will take me awhile to set this up, currently taking my time slowly

[west slate]

so if you get in when the block is full and it takes too long for the next block to start your done no matter how high the fee

the higher fee only helps if your in before the block is full and your higher then the next guy in line

but each block takes enough tx that trying to do gas wars is largely not going to work

[valid yoke]

Hmmm I don't have Japan as an option

Anyone heard of any other places that work ok??

Maybe Europe??

[west slate]

odd whats your vpn

[valid yoke]

Opera GX

[west slate]

I was trying Europe earlier, might work this time of day

but your likely going to want something on an oposite day night cycle

ie why I chose japan

[tawny salmon]

can you try Australia?

[west slate]

australia could work but this time of day europe might be better as its ausi day and they love crypto

I think japan likes crypto but less of the libertarian culture there

[valid yoke]

Australia isn't on the free list either lol

Guess I'll have to get the premium GX VPN now 😛

[west slate]

yeah I pay for nord