👽┃general

[clear meteor]

I'm very curious what the issue actually is. My hunch is that the sizing calculation is missing a byte or two in each instruction that causes the transaction to go over by 16 bytes

[modest vault]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676488

[lost rivet]

I started to try to use 2 phantom wallets, 1 with a ledger and now when i try to do anything with them it wont let me do any transactions, has this happened to others?

[low loom]

Did you turn off priority fees in settings?

[plush vessel]

The whole system is rough for everyone so it is not you

[plush vessel]

Why the name change?

[low loom]

It is the name I used for SLABS and also Star Atlas site.. so when I apped a DAC I thought it might be less confusing .

[plush vessel]

Ok something new for me

[low loom]

I think I used Arrayro when I first joined here.. then changed to Malwor on a whim.

[plush vessel]

Just trying to keep track of the Vets

[pulsar moat]

Try Blind signing, that's what I did

Gn gn!

[opal rain]

🚨daily report 👉 #🐤┃community-tweets message

[clear meteor]

Is your ledger firmware up to date?

[plush vessel]

Do you mean have you installed the BAckDoor firmware. .. lol

[tawny otter]

gn

[hasty solar]

How many titan ships were sold?

[plush vessel]

One i believe

[limber steeple]

There's one so far. But a new one was just launched

[desert beacon]

Sadly

[split solar]

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[hasty solar]

And what are they used for? Is it just a huge ship?

[plush vessel]

I'm with you i'm looking to leave them because of that, I have an eye on Keystone and Tangem

[plush vessel]

My theory is their government put pressure on them to make it accessible for them.

[valid yoke]

How's the game treatin everyone?

[plush vessel]

Like a red headed stepchild gone wild!

[valid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-blows-kiss-blowing-kiss-sandlot-wave-gif-14022188

😛

[willow copper]

Hello
I am reaching out for Marketing and Development services

[swift cedar]

👀 why are we pumping, friends? other than the obvious reason that Star Atlas is 🔥...

[valid yoke]

What does that even mean??

Good?

[dark tendon]

Hey

[plush vessel]

It is an old saying. unpredictable

[valid yoke]

I see

I saw some people saying things were better for them

[plush vessel]

Sammy delayed his update until tomorrow.

[valid yoke]

That's unfortunate

[plush vessel]

Not what he wanted, but something didnt work right for him

[valid yoke]

It is what it is

[plush vessel]

True

[dusk hill]

You’re 🔥

[swift cedar]

very true bb ❤️‍🔥

[plush vessel]

Why does this feel like a sunday?

[novel lichen]

Is there a problem with withdrawing claim stakes?

[deep stream]

half an hour managed to build 3 of my 12 fleets sigh

[stark ibex]

how can i play games

Please give me a game redemption code

I want to experience the game

Can someone give me a game activation code? I want to experience it

How to play games

[stark ibex]

How to play games

[stark ibex]

Can someone give me a game activation code? I want to experience it

[deep stream]

chill, someone will answer

im sure there are plenty of codes around to share with you

little patience

[stark ibex]

okay, thank you

[cold ledge]

ANTQ7-N898V-D7T3T-AHKF5 redeem this in the epic games launcher, have fun

[stark ibex]

okay, thank you

[candid sparrow]

When will the fix for crfr craft come? Does anyone know an official statement?

[tardy flame]

max crew in starbase is 145 right? does it mean titan will not able to dock?

[split solar]

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[cold ledge]

what you mean is fleetsize

i think you could bring in a titan

[cyan wraith]

No max in a Starbase

[tardy flame]

does it mean, i can have as many as i want and crafting will be faster?

[copper fjord]

Yes essentially

[cyan wraith]

Yes. That's why certain people use 10,000 crafters for instant crafting.

[tardy flame]

thats a lotttttttttttttt. hahaha

[spark marten]

Guys any news about RFR

GM

[worthy galleon]

Imagine all them AirBikes parked up 👀

[serene willow]

Delayed for today, he ran into some unexpected bugs

[spark marten]

that story since friday

[lunar trout]

Troubles with warping?

[lunar trout]

Imagine customize and train 10.000 crews🤯

[serene willow]

Starcomm/RPC taking a looooong time to update info today, on top of it all

[split solar]

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[viscid ivy]

No command get's executed for me, no transaction is initiated

[gloomy elbow]

Nope game dead

[nocturne copper]

i have 3 fleets that not respond, the rest seems to be scanning

the map also not update so expect its a starcum issue, the transactions still go through on chain, just your visual isnt, so if you use bot you could still control them

[digital osprey]

You guys going to dump atlas huh?

[tired remnant]

Welcome to the cycle of life 🤣

[digital osprey]

Right as we have some momentum in price we also have millions of rfr waiting for redemption 😂

[spark marten]

no...my pocket atlas for transactions is ending

I need more atlas to pay atlas

[digital osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/scoutshonor-gif-21588687

[willow kiln]

Good day ... Goooooo

[toxic apex]

Starcum seem not working, i cant even claim completed craft for past hour. Ded.

[gloomy elbow]

I dont use bots I'm the bot,click refresh click refresh...

[nocturne copper]

yea its weird i had some ships not responding to the commands others did, but now they all went black

[winged cloak]

guys i cant buy any ship in market place

[tardy flame]

when whale will sell their ships? haha

[toxic apex]

this usually need refresh, F5, resetcookie, or change vpn

[golden oak]

Ok

[golden oak]

No way haha

[languid pagoda]

Dudes i movd the 7 ogrika from wallet on sage but i don't see them...No in Wallet NO in SAGE .... wff happn?

i losed them?

!

[swift mesa]

sage labs has lags atm

[languid pagoda]

i can stay with no scary?

[late condor]

yeah don't worry.

[swift mesa]

i waited sometimes 30 min for ships showing up after deposit especially to starbase

[late condor]

Transactions go through - it's just the game not updating properly

it's a starcomm issue

[swift mesa]

for me is everything ded atm 😄

[languid pagoda]

ok i have the transition btw , ill hope ill have them ingame

😦 or i losd 7k and over

[swift mesa]

yes no worries

imagine that happen to a titan user ^^

sry bro your ship is gone 😄

[elfin tundra]

So whats the main opinion now for HRZ?

We destroying ships or not?

[glass harness]

wen labs

[warped spindle]

Does anyone, like me, who is trying to craft RFR and can't get it, also get this when trying to deposit missing elements? I don't understand why everyone finds the solution by depositing more, if I constantly get this bug.

[swift mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/reset-button-restart-start-over-press-gif-16228545

[tired sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/office-server-power-lady-unplug-gif-8220789

[wintry berry]

its working ok for me

[winged cloak]

not working

[gloomy elbow]

You cant lose them theyre on the blockchain

[azure bone]

go go gog

[reef hawk]

managed to make 6 deliverys to CSS so its laggy but works kinda

[serene willow]

Not working well this morning

Well, not working well for 10 days

[topaz pine]

yeah massive starcomm issues

i also think i keep losing crafts overnight. it looks like the tx went through but then i wake up and nothing to claim. 😿

[serene willow]

Happened to me tonight

One queue, but still...

[topaz pine]

why does this randomly break

cant see diigits

did we really need numbering 😦

did RFR fix go in last night btw?

[serene willow]

Still think response was... Not optimal. Team probably thought this would get back to somewhat normal, and they could just roll with Starbased. But then macro went nuts, and Solana got worse and worse. Not very good response to have it completely disfunctional for almost 2 weeks. Slow, I get it. Refresh, keep trying, ok. But this is wrecking the experience for absolutely everyone. 🙁

[topaz pine]

yeah they hedged on getting starbased out so they wouldnt need to double up the work

[serene willow]

Yep

I also thought it could possibly fix itself, but not anymore

[topaz pine]

tbf Solana is doing quite well when DAPPS are integrated properly

[serene willow]

Like, well, every time it got congested. But this time it's here to stay. Fees keeping getting higher and higher, meaning it's being used more and more (Solana)

Oh yeah. The very best example is Lab Assistant

It works flawlessly with proper fees set up

Which is... Silly if you think about it. 🤷🏻‍♂️🙁

[topaz pine]

the more DAPPS integrate properly the better the congestion will get since TX are just getting spammed, resulting in more tx

[topaz pine]

well, its not flawless because fees arent dynamic but it is doing well

its also smooth because of auto-approve and resubmitting TX automatically which is technically a security issue

[serene willow]

Well, yeah, but the fact that a 3rd party interface is working, and the main thing isn't, is annoying, to say the least

[topaz pine]

Buzzec has said its a concious choice to not resubmit but its not good for user experience imo. Hopefully that will change when player profiles are in and auto-approving is limited to in game transactions only.

[topaz pine]

yeah but this is the whole point of on-chain interoperability

The blockchain code is rock solid. The UI code connecting to the blockchain... needs work 🙂

[serene willow]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going anywhere. Just... I wish we had:
A) a better and faster response to something that a lot of members forsaw;
B) proper communication.

[topaz pine]

there is tons of communication you just have to live in Discord 12 hours per day

[serene willow]

Hahaha

I kinda... Do

But you know what I mean.

[topaz pine]

yeah i know what you mean

[late condor]

in Bryan's terms you're not even a regular.

[serene willow]

Oh I'm a pleb

I know my place

[late condor]

aren't we all

[serene willow]

🙃🤣

[late condor]

according to this guy

#👽┃general message

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

someone put together a shrimp list

im still a shrimp

[late condor]

then I have the perfect protection subscription plan for you.

[digital osprey]

while you're here... take on GAO ships lifetime insurance?

pretty sure i know the answer

[late condor]

I recognize that we have a whole lot of opinions but very little expertise.

[copper fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[late condor]

I trust ATMTA to know what's best for the game.

[golden oak]

gm

[digital osprey]

fair

[mint crystal]

What a cop out! Get mad and be loud about one side or the other!

[late condor]

my heart says if I blow it up I want it to stay ded

but as 13omb3r has pointed out

it's ultimately about balancing

keep the game fair and risk/reward ratio reasonable.

[mint crystal]

Remember the good ol days when the pirates weren't the reasonable ones?

[late condor]

I have an opinion, I just know I'm a goober.

[digital osprey]

The eve online argument is weak af imo. THose ships top out at 15k usd

[late condor]

[digital osprey]

maybe outdated info

[tardy flame]

what is the API to be used, so i can extract the current values in Market Place?

[topaz pine]

https://build.staratlas.com/dev-resources/on-chain-game-systems/galactic-marketplace

also see #💻┃community-developers

[split solar]

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Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[tawny otter]

gm

[wintry berry]

damn game dead again i thought there was a fix last night ??

[modest vault]

No

Was a bug before deployment

[quartz rain]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-lbow-hi-hello-hi-there-gif-25347432

[waxen raven]

Nope you ROME , I'm Shrimps 😁

[serene willow]

It's always been in an "undead" status...

[untold palm]

Gm my friends 👽

[serene willow]

Starcomm is horrible today. Stuff taking over 1h to even update on the UI

[slow nimbus]

did prioity fee get fixed?

[serene willow]

Nope

[slow nimbus]

I am able to mine now

[serene willow]

Crafting is where the main issues are

[obsidian lotus]

anyone know difference between POLIS and ATLAS they seem the same

[untold palm]

Polis is the dao

Atlas it’s ingame currency

[wintry berry]

atlas is the in game currency and polis is the governance token

[obsidian lotus]

so for investment what should i look into or 50 50 they seem to pump at the same time

[late condor]

you wanna play the game or just turn a profit?

vastly changes our answer.

[obsidian lotus]

profit

[late condor]

go POLIS, stake it, come back in 3 yrs

[obsidian lotus]

do you get returns on staking it

[late condor]

yes

[autumn veldt]

Hey is there anyone who is planning on buying some ships and does not have a buddy link? 🙂

While using a buddy link you get a -10% discount

[split solar]

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[spiral spindle]

rainbow phi is to sexy looking lol i wonder what 6 titan cargo holds equal to in m3 lol

[woeful oracle]

Get out of sage guys before you get stuck

[spiral spindle]

stuck ?

[woeful oracle]

Yeah from stuff taking so long to update and to mine. Took me 4 hours to do one run on hydrogen it’s broken

[spiral spindle]

having np today mining diamonds as we speak

[woeful oracle]

Ok I’m scared to mine now bc it wouldn’t let me deposit or withdraw for a while like solana was congested

[tired remnant]

Working fine for me

[whole helm]

Thusday and in park no tv

[spiral spindle]

i wonder when were going to be able to put other wallets on the epic game version of star atlas

[serene willow]

Well, "fine" is definitely a stretch. It's horrible today, lol

But working

[topaz pine]

btw. just did some steel crafting. I had to turn off priority fees in game so I could use phantom priority fees

worked much better

[ornate egret]

This is what I’m experiencing as well

[topaz pine]

v1 was straight dead. v2 worked well

[whole helm]

49 cheat

[wispy widget]

GM

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/spring-beaver-agonyhole-gif-26398434

[wispy widget]

Autumn

[serene willow]

Gm Santi

[wispy widget]

how are u Lerinor?

[lyric saddle]

Gm 🌌

[pulsar moat]

Gm gm!

[late condor]

Sir I'd like to file an official complaint against one of your employees.

[wispy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/bcfd-monkey-confused-gif-5786043144724365138

[cold ledge]

sounds more like a compliment if it is coming from you

[pulsar moat]

Santi can we change factions when moving to starbased

[wispy widget]

I don't think so, can ask

[late condor]

It has come to S&B's attention that José is writing hentai stories on 4chan during work hours.

[wispy widget]

no way LMAO

[cold ledge]

hahaha

[pulsar moat]

Thank you

[cold ledge]

i knew it was a compliment

[late condor]

this is not a smear campaign.

Just us being helpful citizens of err

the Galia expanse.

We trust that you will bring this matter to the highest of authorities.

[modest vault]

how long until starbased now?

someone really wanted some POLIS

[granite needle]

Ok

[tame maple]

https://tenor.com/view/ekamoi-amoi-nemo-gif-19673307

[sage yew]

Rfr crafting still doesn't work?

[tall lava]

HAHAHA

[tall lava]

I'll have you respect the 4chan hentai community passion for stories sir.

[gloomy elbow]

nope

[sage yew]

Is there any information when this will be fixed?

[tall lava]

@late condor Your bounty has just been doubled, you evil pirate, HR has sent me a dm asking about this!!!

[late condor]

pls spare my cat

[copper sleet]

Hi! Can some one share info on this?

[glass harness]

Hello, wen labs pls

[thorn otter]

What has he done to deserve this?

[copper sleet]

Tigu has done nothing

[pulsar moat]

What command did you do?

[copper sleet]

Trying to scan

[late condor]

I'm being fraudulently framed by this community since the earliest days of SA.

[sweet dew]

I haven’t been able to play for 5 days or so. Will a fix be applied so that we can remove assets from SAGE?

[elfin tundra]

Anyone recommends any remote PC softwares like TeamViewer?

[pulsar moat]

In Sol we can just keep hammering the chain until it works, back in ETH this will cost alot more

[thorn otter]

Have you thought about a revolt against this?

[copper sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-captain-jack-sparrow-run-sprint-ahh-gif-5786303

[tall lava]

What he didn’t do would be a better question

[thorn otter]

Then what hasn't he done?

[cold ledge]

in the old days i used vnc, but i think thats not free anymore, TeamViewer is fine?, otherwise remote desktop is integrated in windows

[tall lava]

Well, just now he made a complaint to my boss saying that I was writing hentain stories for 4chan during working hours.

[late condor]

preposterous, unfounded lies.

That was an impersonator.

[tall lava]

HAHAHAHA

[thorn otter]

Was he snitching or lying?😂

[elfin tundra]

it thinks that i'm corp, and it closses connection after 5min

[tall lava]

What is more suspicious is that we discovered that he follows the 4chan hentai stories channel 🤔

[glass harness]

Anydesk

[tall lava]

Hardly a Christian behavior, I must say

[serene willow]

Tired of working so much the past weeks... And I don't mean Labs, haha

[atomic zephyr]

https://discordapp.com/channels/789226204980707409/799476828397240321/1217125008950952059

[mint crystal]

Need to clear a bogus bounty? I know a guy ...

[late condor]

take your tentacle off me

[vagrant cradle]

lol i saw it got mentioned in airdrop thing by a influencer wanted to confirm it here

[copper sleet]

Hi socrates do you have any ship?

[vagrant cradle]

no

[copper sleet]

If you have ships you will recieve crewpacks but that is not going to be airdroped

i dont know about any staratlas airdrop

[vagrant cradle]

ok alright thanks for info though

i'll delete my intial messages

not to confuse people though

[copper sleet]

[copper sleet]

Just to confirm, some star atlas users recieved pyth and jup tokens as airdrops, if you are thinking about those you should check the official sites

[vagrant cradle]

those are wayyy to late for me

thing is i didnt trade on jupiter back in the day

[copper sleet]

Well i think if you start trading with jup you can recieve next year

They will be airdroping for 4 years

[spiral spindle]

how much in a drop?

[copper sleet]

depends of your volume

of transactions

i recieved the minimum

200 jup

[wanton raptor]

🙂

[gloomy elbow]

soon

[gloomy elbow]

I got $5.5k bought 5 taps with it

[spiral spindle]

dam nice

[limpid isle]

in labs, seems like my txn are going through but the UI update is lagging (30+ sec). Not sure if it's me or anyone else 🤷‍♀️

[simple cloud]

Yeah, same here.

[vast locust]

Woa

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[copper sleet]

First time i see this error.

[placid cypress]

Good day everyone. Last days of labs, make it worth it! get ready for starbased!

[spiral spindle]

YA but need to know the eta lol

[rare garden]

wait forreal??

[placid cypress]

yessir

[rare garden]

oh snap lol, i just got around getting back into things about last week so i am out of the loop on many things. is starbased the upgraded version of sage labs?

also will i need to get everything out of my star bases and put into central base before?

[modest vault]

??

[placid cypress]

Labs and faction fleet are going away soon with the release of Starbased. Most of the game mechanics of Labs will remain in the new release. Yes, we will need to get everything out of labs, make sure to transport (when it will be time) everything to the css of your faction.

[placid cypress]

?

[rare garden]

ok ty! i need to start transporting things then. will they have an exact time? I migth not be able to get everything back depending lol

[modest vault]

Why u making stuff up?

[rare garden]

this man lying?? lol

[placid cypress]

They will announce everything, there's no rush. Also labs will be still accessible for doing this, if you still have stuff to move

[rare garden]

ahhh ok. i was thinking the other bases would just implode and i would lose all LOL

[placid cypress]

I mean, it depends from hom much stuff you have everywhere in galia, i don't have to rush 😅

[rare garden]

I pretty much stuck to the bases near central as i don't have that many ships

But my transports are low so a lot of my materials are just vibing on bases lol

[limpid isle]

I think they reversed that decision, because it would be exploited by people. "I'll just mine a bunch of hard shit now, then later I can warp like crazy"

[placid cypress]

Makes sense

[safe moss]

Does this person know something that we don’t?

[rare garden]

as long as we can still warp i am chill waiting patiently like a good Ustur lol

[placid cypress]

I'm pretty sure we will claim our stuff without any problems, even if we're a litlle bit late

[safe moss]

Why did POLIS blast in that manner yesterday? Was there any exclusive news?

[thorn otter]

Nothing that I know. Probably a whale that has bought POLIS.

[cyan wraith]

Not true. It's in announcements that that is no longer the case.

Man, lots of bad info in here.

[cyan wraith]

After doing the math it was realized that some of the larger ship holders could literally produce BILLIONS of materials each day, thus killing the economy.

[rare garden]

what about info that it is happening today? the switch? I don't see anything in main announcements

[cyan wraith]

Nothing is happening today. Again just more bad baseless info!

[safe moss]

Makes sense. I wonder if that would be considered a good entry for POLIS

[rare garden]

appreciate it! I assume i should only wait for official announcements? lol

[serene willow]

Today we might have a fix for crafting, but for sure not Starbased

[cyan wraith]

Yeah. Starbased will be coming soon (probably 1-2 weeks), but you will have time after that to get your resources out. It is a seperate game ID and both will be operational, although SAGE will have no more economic elements (no crafting, mining, scanning).

[serene willow]

But I'm skeptical. Will only believe it when I click craft and it goes through without needing to do some makeshift fix figured out by players. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[serene willow]

I seriously doubt it's 2 weeks away

Especially now with Solana pooping its pants

They can't afford another fiasco like past 2 weeks. It needs to launch at least in a playable state

[rare garden]

ty! won't need to call out of work to convert everything into transport fleets LOL

[ionic vale]

SA issues step from the underlying technology of SOL becoming extraordinarily popular, driving up Gas/Priority fees

[serene willow]

This was predictable... Logic should've been fixed a long time ago. It dragged because it was somewhat working. The moment Solana had more demand, Labs broke.

People have been claiming for priority fees setup for months

[ionic vale]

https://staratlas.com/careers

You can apply for the open position in blockchain rust development

Unless you aren't capable.

[serene willow]

That's very much not a proper response. I can eat at a restaurant without being a chef, and complain when the food arrives cold. 😉

If you're expecting all players to be devs/coders, well, you have a pretty weird way of looking at gaming. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[ionic vale]

No, you're right. But people who complain about cold food can often cook A FOOD.

If you don't understand the underlying product, either trust the team or don't. Complaining changes nothing if the team is already aware of the issue existing.

[serene willow]

Again, very weird way to look at this. Of course I can complain. I'm not being disrespectful, or saying they're doing nothing. I'm just pointing out what is being perceived by a LOT of people, not just me. 😉

[whole moth]

@serene willow the #💻┃community-developers have built tools that adds priority fees, see either Labs Assistant or you can take a look at some of my Sage Labs cli tools - it's easy to complain but harder to execute

[ionic vale]

We're talking about a technology and platform that has never been created before in gaming.

Nobody has ever tried to take every mechanism of their platform and put it on-chain, making it permanent and serverless. Changes to the code have permanent effects on the product, so they can't be rolled out quickly.

They have to be tested again and again, proven to function, then they can be deployed, because any exploitable hitch could literally destroy the ecosystem.

[whole moth]

the community developers are trying to help build and fill in voids while the team executes on the larger vision of SA

Sage Labs is not the end goal - it's called "Labs" for a reason

[serene willow]

I'm well aware of many tools, and use a few. You're missing my point...

We should've been prepared earlier for Solana congestion. That's all.

Crafting is broken for almost 2 weeks, and we got a response last Friday, which still didn't quite fix it.

I know it's cutting edge tech, brave new world and all. But that doesn't mean we can't spot issues and point them out, especially if doing so respectfully while also still wanting the project to grow and thrive. If I didn't care, I wouldn't be here anymore. 😉

[thorny lagoon]

Yeah, testing. Imagine in order to develop something you also need Quality assurance aside from Developers. Waiting to see any open position for QA besides Rust developers

[ionic vale]

I imagine it would be a while for that. Not a lot of deployables in the UE5 environment to break at the moment.

[whole moth]

I think the team is well aware of issue, it's all about prioritization for them with the limited resources they had during the bear

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, I know - that is why for now the community is the QA

[waxen raven]

I don't know it really was a good idea, people have started exploding fees, like they burn sol like burning toolkits. have seen 50000 microlamports to 200000 microlamports for scanning...

[serene willow]

That's absolutely dumb, lol

[whole moth]

that's their choice as a payer, no one is forcing them to set high fees

[thorny lagoon]

what was their alternative choise - if you don't do this you get 50% lower SDU or something like that according to my statistics

[whole moth]

or a person could just stop playing while network is congested

[serene willow]

More like, 95% less, if you don't set anything at all

[modest vault]

This is what happens with on chain gaming

[whole moth]

if you're doing it for economic reasons that's an entirely different situation

[thorny lagoon]

you speak the true true

[modest vault]

It's not good or bad

It just is

[serene willow]

Or, currently, isn't. 🤣

[modest vault]

Only major issue atm is SDU scanning for tiny fleets sucks

[serene willow]

Starcomm completely dead now

[modest vault]

Starcomm unusable yeh

[waxen raven]

Man 200000 microlamports... you don't earn anything, they should be educated

[serene willow]

SDU scanning is a stupid mechanics, and a lot of people have been pointing it out for a long time...

Like someone said (was it you?), they have a deal with Solana to pump up transaction count, only possible explanation. 🤣

[modest vault]

Yeh it's only reasonable explanation

Maybe SA gets a kick back

😂

[gloomy elbow]

SDU scanning always sucked

[serene willow]

Not Starcomm, it seems. Solana froze pretty bad now

[modest vault]

As a game mechanic 100%

But now if u have like 2 airbikes you lose $

[serene willow]

Er... What was that? Guy got banned?

[modest vault]

You sure u didn't click a craft in game and accidentally copy another address? (Clicking a craft puts an address in your clipboard, or used to)

Where he go lol

[serene willow]

Weird... seemed like he had a genuine question

🤷🏻‍♂️

[thorny lagoon]

I have been asking for continious scanning mechanic - similar to mining. We are to expect scanning to be used for surveillance/detecting incoming hostiles too in the future. Currently - good for stress testing the network and providing lots of activity on SOL network which is like marketing for the game. In the near future - I don't know

[modest vault]

My suggestion was a manual mode for slightly higher output + a passive mode for continuous mining

[serene willow]

I think we can agree that Solana doesn't need extra stress right now... If ever

[thorny lagoon]

I am up for that

[serene willow]

Anomaly occurrence

You find the anomaly, then scan it (mine it)

It deplets, and is poooof

Multiple anomalies poping out, capping the emissions, and forcing people to search for them.

Would make absolutely more sense than this broken system we have

[whole moon]

Claim is Broken

[serene willow]

Everything is broken right now, Solana hiccup

And considering macro, it's not getting better anytime soon

[wintry berry]

i get your frustration and as unfortunate as it is these are the things we’ll constantly be dealing with building on top of new tech. there will always be some issue known or unknown and i dont think complaining a bit is a problem just that most of us here here constantly and it gets redundant

[rich steeple]

Tbh this shit will go on for a long time and it will get only worse

[wintry berry]

everything is broken

just us bozos here clicking and hoping

[thorny lagoon]

And fight over them. Will make way more sense when there is combat. But maybe like first find the anomaly like a good SDU chance sector. Also needs fog of war - being able to see what other fleets are scanning and getting should not be possible once we have combat - but that will also take considerable amount of Dev time to implement

[serene willow]

My will is broken

🤣

[rich steeple]

Solana needs to come up with a solution, either scale current network or Firedancer fast

[wintry berry]

let it go for a day or 2 even tho you feel like youre missing earning you’ll get a little wind in your sail from the break and be back to clicking coping and complaining with a smile in no time

[serene willow]

Yeah, much more complex. But can escalate, and be developed progressively.
This would actually make scan ships good for what they've been designed. They scan a huge area, compared to other classes of ships, and could find anomalies from far away.

[pulsar moat]

I don't see any chain that can do this other than Solana though nothing close

[serene willow]

We know

[wintry berry]

solana cant even do it yet 😂

[serene willow]

We're not saying we should move

[pulsar moat]

Coming from ETH, doing 1 swap is $50 at best

[serene willow]

Like, we have a problem when it's considerably more profitable to use Maxhogs to scan, than Opods/Rayfams

[wintry berry]

eth is torture you could literally loose a $500 claim in gas fees

[rich steeple]

there are some new options like Sei and Sui but I don't know much about them

one of them claims to have 300k TPS can't remember which one

Sei is supposed to have 3x faster finality than Sol

[wintry berry]

sei is in no way faster than sol , at least not when i tried minting and trading nfts a couple months back

a little activity and the whole things crashed

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, it should come in time along with stealth mechanics and other fun stuff - I guess first step is to redo how scanning works without breaking the economy. And with release of Starbased where the SDUs will no longer be a lever for the economy I hope team can afford to start changing the scanning mechanics without worrying of breaking the economy

[wintry berry]

there was a 30 min + wait time just to get onto one of the nft markets

[rich steeple]

hmm okay, I should try to buy some new meme coins on Sei 😄 just for some degen loto vibes and to just try it out

[wintry berry]

sei is cool im not really doing anything there or on sui

just a little defi where i can

[low loom]

Are we still waiting on the fix?

[wintry berry]

i think solana is the issue now

[clear meteor]

Yes. Fixed the issue, but now we're running into another issue lol

[low loom]

That is the way of the world.

What is the most current version?

[clear meteor]

That one should be relatively straightforward though too. We're packing our transactions so well that we're actually hitting the max instruction invokes per txn, which was a limit Solana arbitrarily added recently without asking anyone

Crafting an RFR used to take 6 transactions. With the update it only takes 3 now.

[clear meteor]

Should come out today. Hasn't been released yet

[mint crystal]

There's a max ix?!

[clear meteor]

Yeah it's 64 total. That includes CPIs as well, which makes it impossible to statically determine the limit from just a bunch of instructions alone unless you add metadata to each for how many CPIs it might take

Basically Solana kicked us in the balls

[mint crystal]

That's a hell of a stealth change

[clear meteor]

In theory defense there was a pr open and the feature pending for a while

[late pollen]

Aaaaaah, fuck Solana

[low loom]

Solana was just growing too fast for them so rather than expanding they set limits?

[clear meteor]

Arbitrary ones too

No reason for it to be 64 other than "heh 64 is a power of 2 and nice number eheheh"

Could have been 65, or 70.

[rich steeple]

or

69

[clear meteor]

Nice

[rich steeple]

[steady sinew]

O cant do a simplel craft

[clear meteor]

Yeah that should be fixed today

[low loom]

I have gotten crafts to work, but once accepted it takes a bit for the system to show them in instances.

Well, I'm off to work. These ships won't buy themselves!

[woeful oracle]

So we as game developers have to pack transactions to make things work smoother bc the limit of 64?

@clear meteor

[clear meteor]

we have to pack them well, but not too well

and you cant tell how well to pack them unless you know how many CPIs each instruction does. Technically you can simulate them and then figure out how many you need to do based on that but thats hard

sorta hard at least

would require a larger rewrite

[cerulean hatch]

ETH is practically unusable because of the fees. I used to be heavily invested but there are better layer 1s that I think with grab developer interest because eth can’t get it together

[wintry berry]

it will be interesting to see where all that money flows in the next few years

[safe moss]

This might be a dumb question. But why is there 450 mil PVP (POLIS voting power) when the max supply of POLIS is 360 mil?

(In the polis locker)

[cold ledge]

https://support.staratlas.com/how-are-dao-staking-rewards-calculated

[split solar]

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[chrome nova]

GM

[wispy widget]

gm friend

[thorn otter]

Good Morning!

[rich steeple]

ETH is supposed to get sharding so I guess ETH will be just fine

[chrome nova]

Not a big fun if blobs tbh - data getting pruned is counter blockchain / institutional

[mighty lance]

anybody else getting this when trying to make fleets?

[rich steeple]

yeah it has downsides but at least it would be usable. in theory ofc 😄

[spiral spindle]

Fuck ETH they can stick the high gas up there ass

[uneven umbra]

lol 😆

[wispy widget]

[hazy hedge]

TRUE

[wintry berry]

i dont think it will “END” but i do think the money will flow into other places over time

[rich steeple]

I think even more money flow into ETH because of ETF in May. And money from ETFs will stay in one place and won't flow. Retail money could flow but still it will probably only grow

other projects will probably have natural inflows

[wintry berry]

i think they will loose market share over time

[rich steeple]

for sure

[wintry berry]

but yes they will pump

[languid pond]

any solution for making sage work better?

[spiral spindle]

MSGA (make sage great again )

[thorny lagoon]

You generate PVP ( Polis voting power ) when you lock Polis over time and it depletes as time goes. The longer you lock - the more PVP you get initially then it gradually goes down if you don't relock.

The think is that currently PVP does not have any utility except giving you access to the foundation room. And also there is not mechanic to burning the PVP because you cannot use it for voting.

So if you lock 8000 Polis for 5 years it gives you 80 000 PVP or something like that

then it depletes over time

[safe moss]

This helps a lot. Thank you

[unique sand]

hi guys, I have a problem yesterday after crafting the COUNCILs with a lot of effort, after making the claim and moving the COUNCILs to the wallet my 5 bikes that worked for crafting disappeared, then last night I had bought 5 more which I imported this afternoon and in the starbase I only see 5 bikes instead of 10, I have updated several times and checked everywhere and they no longer appear, has anyone had the same problem or can anyone help me?

[plush vessel]

Are the other 5 still crafting?

[unique sand]

I have nothing at work

[plush vessel]

Do not trust any DMs you may get, no one Official will ever DM you

[unique sand]

never received dm

[plush vessel]

Create a ticket so they can check it on their end. https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/895336048517849099

[delicate kiln]

Does anyone know when the items we earned from the Never Alone event will come to the marketplace?

[plush vessel]

I think not until the event is over for the prizes that you burn the memories for.

[rancid ingot]

Hi all. Any one having issues on SCORE ? All the claims over FC or FF aren't being shown on my ledger for approval and I get an error

[thorny lagoon]

Hi, check this topic here: #🤝┃community-support message

[wintry berry]

pretty sure its all solanas fault

i cant send tokens or swap anything atm

[rancid ingot]

I've open a ticket meanwhile... maybe thats the case. I'll wait and try again later. Thanks

[valid yoke]

Hey all

How's the network today??

Nvm I can already tell

[mighty lance]

yeah, it's been hit or miss for sure

[dark swan]

why is sage labs broken?

[mighty lance]

slow for actions to reflect for me right now

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/put-your-finger-here-place-your-finger-here-rat-gif-cardboard-rat-put-finger-here-gif-15807532728550160270

[uneven umbra]

Well.......

Solana is suffering a lot again

Not sure what it is

[uneven umbra]

Solana + starcomm problems, but its not broken

Just too laggy

[rare garden]

Sorry for dumb question... but why does the Star Atlas DAO buy up Council RFRs? also... why is there someone selling for the same price that the DAO has as a buy order? lol

[thorny lagoon]

1. The DAO is buying in order to provide a game mechanic for Atlas emissions in Sage
2. Bots on the market are trying to speculate in the wrong place.

[gloomy elbow]

I lost £55 on a FAILED transaction on ETH once never used it again...

[valid yoke]

Oh, I can tell lol

I actually had an idea on how to move SDU scaning away from being so transaction haevy

I doubt that's all the issue with Solana/Starcomm but I bet it would help alot

[spiral spindle]

SHOOT ALL BOTS ??? LOL

[valid yoke]

No, just make scanning toggleable and automatic. 1 scan every 3 minutes or so and you just turn it on and off

[rare garden]

ahh gotcha, thank you!!

[valid yoke]

Turns itself off when the fleet is either full of SDUs or out of Toolkits

Would massively reduce the transaction load on the network and starcomm server

[rich steeple]

but didn't they say that they have new mechanic in Starbased? or am I tripping

for SDUs

[valid yoke]

I dunno, mebbe

I'm always super tired at the brews and THs cuz I'm just barely waking up for them

[rich steeple]

same, that's why I'm hesitating 😄

[thorny lagoon]

it is more complicated than that, because you are interacting with the map when scanning which means interacting with the blockchain.

So the scanning program needs to be somehow fueled in advance with a set number of instructions that it will perform. For example you provide the toolkits to burn and some Solana to keep it running for x number of operations. But for that you will need some kind of tick based turns or a scheduler that you can configure.

And now someone will tell me the game is a Real time strategy game so it needs to happen in Real time. And I will have to explain that Real time means it is happening at the same time other stuff are happening in our lives so we need to respect time zones and stuff. It does not mean that the game actions in a Real time strategy cannot be limited to a 1 min tick. I bet there will be people paying for super priority fees in combat phase if they want to get "better FPS" so to speak 😂

[valid yoke]

Well then how do we explain mining? Every mining tick is costing a transaction then??

If we can do it in mining we can do it in scanning. Just sayin 😛

[rich steeple]

in mining you have to stop manualyl and it's calculated then

SDUs you have chance to get or not get and etc

[thorny lagoon]

mining does not interact with the map so it does no need to check with the blockchain every other minute or so - just need to check once that you hit the stop mining button how much time ellapsed after you started it

[rich steeple]

but I'm sure there is some trick that can be done differently for the current scanning mechancis

[thorny lagoon]

I am not saying I am don't want scanninig to work in that way - on the contrary, this is how I expect it to work. Just saying a bit more hard to implement

[valid yoke]

Seems like we could make SDU scanning work the same way tho. I maen I get that people want to clarify it as interacting with the map but in reality it's jsut code saying a success or failure per tick

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, but only if you thin scanning is only for SDU and not for incoming enemy ships

[rich steeple]

yeah but then we are moving backwards, making different things to use same mechanic is too repetitive for a game

[valid yoke]

We could have caculated success rates on leaving SDU scanning phases

[rich steeple]

lol 😄 "yeah but" 😄

[thorny lagoon]

too many buts I agree 😂

[valid yoke]

I suppose

SDU scanning as it stands with priority fees is trashy now tho

[thorny lagoon]

agreed

[rich steeple]

well the whole game is kinda trashy right now 😄

I've been trying to deposit resource to CSS for 4h and I have managed to deposit only 3 things out of 11

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[rich steeple]

2 actually

[valid yoke]

lol

[rich steeple]

btw Tigu in Estonian means snail. Now I see why Tigu is spirit animal of SA

[valid yoke]

That's hilarious

[rich steeple]

😄 😄

[plucky socket]

labs is BRICKED

[rich steeple]

totally

[quasi glade]

It does seem that way. We were kicking resources A and we got Nerfed. Its a possibility. I have seen it in almost every game I have ever played....

[pulsar moat]

Guys if I have a Pierce ship, should I join MUD to get exp or LP, what if I have a vsuz, and am MUD, will the gameplay be the same

[patent iris]

No -- that doesn't matter.

[pulsar moat]

So I can use for example a capital ship right away if I'm in the wrong faction?

[old hinge]

Good afternoon

[quasi glade]

yessir. dont wait.

[pulsar moat]

If that capital ship is from a different fraction

[serene willow]

You can use anything anywhere

[old hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-enters-dramatically-mando-din-djarin-dramatic-entrance-gif-20585249

[pulsar moat]

Ok, progression wise it's the same?

[thorny lagoon]

It does not matter. Being a specific faction in the future will give you easier access to manufacturing specific ships or parts.

For example being MUD in the future will give you access to better warp drives and big guns. Current meta - does not really matter

[rich steeple]

it's manufactured by different factions and can be used by all

it's currently only ship description so yeah

[serene willow]

We're soooo far away from that

[pulsar moat]

Ok Roger that, thanks guys

[serene willow]

We're actually still far away from crafting again, it seems... 🤣

[thorny lagoon]

you mean for XP? We will have some kind of XP in starbased but as far as I understand it is more related to getting licenses in future. Ship manufacturing should not play a role in that

[rich steeple]

man I can't even deposit/withdraw from CSS, been trying for 4h

I haven't even got so far to try craft

[quasi glade]

Not saying that is not true lerinor. But ppl who were planning in day of this are probably doing well right now. I think. I dont have facts on that. But I am almost sure....

[pulsar moat]

License? Please explain what is this

[serene willow]

I just claimed stuff that didn't show, started fuel queue and not showing... It's a mess

[quasi glade]

People will look back at this dark time in game play and explosion in coin price and laugh. haha. ha,.==

[serene willow]

I planned a lot, and ended up shifting my entire fleet for Labs. Best decision I ever made. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[rich steeple]

dude we are already laughing 😄 it's either cry or laugh and we are waaaaay past the crying phase by now 😄

[quasi glade]

did the same thing man. plans change. but you wouldnt know how unless you were here the day before.... so to say....

[serene willow]

Yep, totally. Just saying that planning on specific ships because of faction seems a lot premature

[quasi glade]

depends on how well off you are maybe. great to be that far ahead though, ya know...

[thorny lagoon]

For example if you want to play as bounty hunter in the future you will need a license for that. In Starbased we will start getting this XP although we won't have any use for it in the beginning - will just accumulate some for starters.

Of course - take that with a grain of salt, because it is my personal interpretation based on what I learned during the brews and while reading the lore. But I guess it should be something in that direction at least

[serene willow]

I could be wrong, though... Just that, by the time that becomes relevant, I intend to have at least 10x my VWAP. 🙈

[quasi glade]

haha. no doubt man. good luck bro.

[serene willow]

🙏

[quasi glade]

Im afraid ships jump in price by leaps. That is why that planning maybe actually useful. I may get stuck with what I have for long periods. who really knows. lol. I love it.

[pulsar moat]

Gamers plan this way sir

[thorny lagoon]

Yes we do

[spiral spindle]

EVERYBODY SELL ALL THERE MATS!! NOW !!! ITS OVER ,,,,, and i will buy when the cuttthroats are through 🙂

[thorny lagoon]

It is a bit of a reading between the lines and it is still just theory crafting and guessing, but here - that might give you a hint:

[rich steeple]

can't sell, nothing is working 😄

[tight widget]

Can't load or unload or undock or dock or do shit. says its working but taks the page a day and a half to update. lol

hard refreshes don't work, even a full reboot only got me a single undock. rofl

[rich steeple]

yup same, I claimed a craft, got the resources and now waiting for it to disappear from the crafting list....

[tight widget]

lol

[dusky vessel]

so, i guess this error message i get when buying ships is normal.. learned about the game recently and haven't been able to play 😦 lol atleast i have one ship enlisted on a fleet hopefully that earns me game code/pass or w.e for the showroom portion

[thorny lagoon]

Check here - we don't have any concrete info yet, but the Faction alignments and Ship configurations could provide you some info on what to expect in the future in terms of building and configuring ships: https://lore.staratlas.com/ship-manufacturers-configurations-and-politics/manufacturer-politics/faction-alignments

For example - Busan ships get bonuses on Stealth ( Make/Spec bonus ) + they usually have +1 size to the Heatsink slot which serve the purpose to hide your heat signature. So if you want to focus on Stealth, then ONI faction will most likely have easier access to manufacturing these inside their own faction. But that does not mean you cannot supply yourself with the same ships and parts if you play USTUR or MUD, just might be slightly more expensive to get for you as you might need to obtain them from the market

[gloomy elbow]

Unlucky you joined while the game is having problems, should all be sorted in 4 to 6 weeks...

but welcome aboard

[spiral spindle]

so on the epic game portion of the game is there anything that you can actually do besides look at trophies

[thorny lagoon]

yes

[rich steeple]

you can ask mod for key, they share keys

[pulsar moat]

Appreciate this info thanks my friend

[dusky vessel]

yeah but i look forward to see what this game becomes and will keep trying. Hopefully scaling improves to not push away new players. it'll only grow from here

[rich steeple]

oh no what's this

where is everything

panic

[gloomy elbow]

Theres a new version called Starbased coming out in the next few weeks that should hopefully sort a lot of these lag problems out

[rich steeple]

I think I refreshed so hard it wiped everything lol

[gloomy elbow]

That happens when you press the launch labs button to quickly,you need to give it a few seconds to load the game

[rich steeple]

ohh okay, that used to issue with mining and crafting too but that got fixed

i think

[polar wren]

Same here , want to dock and disband everything and been at it for 3 hours at this point .

Incredibly frustrating

[gloomy elbow]

labs is toast right now

[rich steeple]

waiting for this for 1h, already claimed and got mats now I need crew back

[thorny lagoon]

Most popular right now is Third Person Shooter arena with Bots.

The hover mechanics of lot of the racing ships were updated - unfortunately the time trials have been temporally disabled until the next release. So you can go and race on the tracks but won't be able to track your time.

Also you can check out the race track with bots where you can shoot them from your ship.

The Dogfight arena is where you can test your 3d space orientation against bots.

For multiplayer - you have to find a buddy and host your own room, public servers open only for the stress tests ( for now )

[gloomy elbow]

But if my monitor was that old id do the same...

[tight widget]

But the feeling still stands

This better for you?

[polar wren]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-quit-linus-tech-tips-ltt-linus-gif-25154720

[gloomy elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/iiyjonghyun-mine-gif-20832824

[prisma rain]

Labs is unplayable ....

[lyric nimbus]

EXIT WARP

[rich steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/tantrum-gif-12615339064861248159

[lunar trout]

Can't claim, can't craft,can't exit mining... only scanning works!

[gloomy elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-darkness-hello-my-old-gif-22124331

[limpid isle]

I love that this channel is a status page for labs. Yep, other people are having issues too 😂

/reboot

[rich steeple]

wow I got my crew back from the craft I claimed 1h ago 😄

[waxen raven]

/reboot

[bitter crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/muppet-wiki-muppetwiki-muppet-muppets-sesame-street-gif-4874162786682583343

[prisma rain]

Dock the 356894th

[rich steeple]

Solana tx speed right now is 1 TPH

[clear meteor]

😭

Have a fix I'm testing right now that should make the majority of things better

Starcomm V2 will fix the update issues

But that's coming much later

[swift mesa]

thanks for the update 👍

[limpid isle]

turn starcomm to eleven please 🙏

[clear meteor]

Another issue is there's quite a few inefficiencies with Solana at the moment. Those are known and being worked on, but it will be a while before we can see the improvements live

[limpid isle]

Nothing but love Sammy - these are all good problems to have ❤️ 🫂

[normal finch]

Is labs literally unplayable at this moment?

[swift mesa]

i need years to transport my stuff out if we have to work with that lag 😄

[limpid isle]

praying to the starcomm gods 🙏

[hollow scroll]

Yep my fleet is stuck mining for 3 hrs now, buy orders I placed on the marketplace are nowhere to be found after an hour even though it took the atlas out of my wallet. So basically nothings working

[normal finch]

Damnit

[next sigil]

Reset starcomm

[plush vessel]

I just want to double check, that Sol fee usually .002 Sol when you add a new asset to the Chain and you get it back when you remove it from the Chain, Is that applied to anything you do on Solana or is the unique to Star Atlas?

[clear meteor]

That's applied to everything. The fee varies though depending on how much data that account stores. For token accounts I think it's around 0.002, but for larger ones it could be more, and less for storing less data

[clear meteor]

Restarting now

[lyric nimbus]

👍

[swift mesa]

lets go

[plush vessel]

Everything on Solana right?

[simple cloud]

What's the latest version of the ship stats spreadsheet? - Good time to be studying stats 😂

[clear meteor]

yes

[plush vessel]

Does that have an Official name?

[clear meteor]

Rent exemption amount

We refer to it as the rent deposit

[plush vessel]

This would be the term when talking to people not in SA but on Solana?

[clear meteor]

Yep

[plush vessel]

Thanks you Sir for the info

[clear meteor]

theres a helper command that returns the amount of sol needed to store N bytes on chain.

[sage yew]

Everything in sage just got much worse, now everything lags terribly. does everyone have this?

[supple bough]

Jeah, im very pissed allready!

[clear meteor]

to store a kb of data (1000 bytes), it would cost 0.007 sol. For 10kb, its 0.07, etc

[late condor]

partially? xDDD

Never seen that before :D

I'm picturing that....

[waxen raven]

programmatic disband mmh?

[sudden glade]

sooo f****ing frustrating to play sage labs....

[spark marten]

For big days of stress...a nice coloring book...

[simple cloud]

I wonder what I enjoy more, beeing stuck in mining or being stuck in a warp tunnel. It doesn't really feel the same, or does it?

[simple cloud]

Better go read some lore 🙂

[spark marten]

it works too

[simple cloud]

Did we get an update on the ship stats spreadsheet since 2/5/2024?

[waxen raven]

This may sound sarcastic, while it is probably not

[spark marten]

50%

I cant lie...but is true, coloring book is the best anti stress

[plush vessel]

Do you always get back 100% of the Rent?

[spark marten]

thats why kids became very calm if the color pages

[obtuse wyvern]

@cold ledge need a mod to help as a middle man for a transaction or @hazy hedge

[limpid isle]

yea, but I overlooked additional instructions 😂 . I was able to programmatically do the rest of the disband. programming under pressure at it's finest . UI now showing the disbanded fleet correctly now, even though they've been crafting for awhile 😂

[mental relic]

👋

[proud lark]

Whats the apy for staking Polis

[obtuse wyvern]

goddly

[proud lark]

Not sure what you mean. I want to stake my Atlas tokens just wondering what the APY is. Lol

[obtuse wyvern]

oh atlas lol thought you ment polis my bad

go to the lockers and put it in and it should tell you how much polis you will make @proud lark

[storm remnant]

sry i dunno where to ask this, i sold the ship and didnt got usdc back i need to claim it somewhere?

[sudden glade]

you are sooo funny you should work for staratlas

[proud lark]

Whats the best wallet to use before i start staking atlas

[obtuse wyvern]

phantom

[spark marten]

why?

[proud lark]

Thank you 👍

[obtuse wyvern]

all good

[dry elbow]

Hello guys, is anything playable after I buy a starter pack ?

[swift mesa]

if you sold on the marketplace check you transaction should be in your wallet if the transaction went through

[storm remnant]

some waiting time or smth?

[storm remnant]

55tNiKCr6tHSYatSJ3eSnsLaLe5pwdiuK2iU4NPbbbZRvhZkKepYj367HgA4TQcuvPogpAPN854KcX18FWfZ93eX

i dunno mate, looks like it ate my PX5

[desert beacon]

%99.9

[swift mesa]

create a ticket for that

https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/895336048517849099

[storm remnant]

will do thx

[sudden glade]

everything is playable but slow as hell, in sage labs you have to spam transactions and hope and pray and don't invest to much in this game, the frustration will make you regret your investement

[simple cloud]

Actually it's been running pretty good for months, just the last days are tough.

[dry elbow]

Thank you, has it been out long ? Apart from the slow speed do you like it ?

[swift mesa]

i should remind you we are still realy early this is only the second game test so far a lot improvement will be done in the near future

[sudden glade]

I'm here since 2021 and Star Atlas is one of the best projects on SOL, only problem at this moment is the "NOT"-playable sage labs + the -33% Atlas emission in SCORE

[rich steeple]

soon -100% Atlas emission in score

[sudden glade]

i'm not against the -XX% Atlas emission, for me it was just not the moment to do this, you can do this ONLY if you have an alternative to propose, but sage labs is not really playable for now

[serene willow]

And I just got a queue started, materials went in, but crew is still here. It's such a guessing game, lol!

[sudden glade]

i have exacte the same problem now 😂

[rich steeple]

yeah I had the other way around, I claimed to craft but crew was stuck. Now I'm at the same stage as you, trying to start the queue 😄

food and ammo went in but I got nothing under Instances, so I guess I caught up to you

like little minigame

who gets the craft started first

[swift mesa]

jeah realy annoying if we cant play

[sacred prism]

I see a bit of Labs peeking through all these bugs.

[serene willow]

Bugs is Labing

Only thing I can say now is how much I appreciate Sammy pushing through this mess. 🙏

[uneven umbra]

lol

[uneven umbra]

Yah!

W sammy

[plush vessel]

A little bit lost as a Tax?

[steady sinew]

Fix the Craft!!

[rich steeple]

yeah but not much he can do about this, no one really can

[uneven umbra]

The team is working on this fren

Hopefully soon we will have an update

[serene willow]

Of course he can, and he's doing it. I mean, he won't fix Solana. But if we can have a somewhat playable status, that's enough to get through Labs into Starbased

[steady sinew]

I Hope so

[rich steeple]

Umm, you do understand all he can do is up the priority fees 😄

[serene willow]

Not really. Did you read up?

Apparently Solana changed the limit on how many instructions can be bundled

And that's causing a LOT of issues

[rich steeple]

not the only issue

[serene willow]

Of course not

[rich steeple]

he said that this is the small issue

[split solar]

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[serene willow]

Well... I'll take any improvement. If we have to pay 2x fees to get through this, I'm all in. I'm paying up to 20x on phantom anyway...

[rich steeple]

it's not even labs related, go try to claim FC or FF, it's the same everywhere

[serene willow]

(not talking about scanning)

[rich steeple]

only markeplace is working because it has like 500x fee

and even that is working not 100%

[serene willow]

Well, Labs is definitely being more affected, because Lab Assistant is working nicely, and I don't have crazy fees config'd

[rich steeple]

mine doesn't work nicely

and i use regular fee

[serene willow]

Mine is working. Not as efficiently, but going

[rich steeple]

you upped fees?

[serene willow]

Yeah, that's the issue for you for sure

Oh yeah, of course

[rich steeple]

by how much

[serene willow]

Not by 200k lamports, though. Lol

[rich steeple]

but wait, you just proved my point

[serene willow]

For reference, 25k = 100% increase

[rich steeple]

what I said earlier

[serene willow]

I'm not saying you don't have a point

[rich steeple]

that only way to get it to work is to up the fees

[serene willow]

I'm saying I want to be able to get through this mess

🤣

[rich steeple]

haha yeah that's for sure

[spiral spindle]

can someone buy me the new rainbow ,, i need to move some material!!!

[serene willow]

If you're running it so tight that upping fees by even 3x affects you, there's something wrong on your operations (no offense, just saying...)

Even scanning can accommodate higher fees. Not talking about 200k Lamports, though.

[rich steeple]

25k lamports = 0.000025 SOL btw

[spiral spindle]

i wonder how much m3 that thing has lol 25 sleges ?

[serene willow]

I despise this system, but it is what it is...

[serene willow]

Nope. Tested and verified. Each 5k Lamports increase fee by 0.000001

[swift mesa]

15million cargo

[rich steeple]

no lamport is literally Sol demonination

[serene willow]

Essentialy, 20% up each 5k Lamports

[steady sinew]

The starbase Will come with more bugs then sageLabes, own man.. Thais os sad

[rich steeple]

like sats

for btc

[serene willow]

Bro

I tested it

[spiral spindle]

lmao that thing would take a week to fill lol

[serene willow]

Extensively

Autistically, almost (no offense)

Hyper-focused person here

Lol

[thick loom]

Is sage down?

[rich steeple]

from Solana documentation

[swift mesa]

kinda yes

[serene willow]

I know, but that's not what happened by incrementally increasing it

I went up thinking exactly that

And actual transactions showed otherwise

[rich steeple]

maybe it just didn't use all, dunno

[swift mesa]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit#gid=205337066 check out the ship docs realy helpfull

[serene willow]

It's consistent, because I upped it for scanning, and all transactions are the exact same cost

Sammy is typing... 🙈🤣

[rich steeple]

it probably has some kind of formula regardign compute units n stuff then

[clear meteor]

To clarify, this is just a separate issue. It is one of the reasons our fix is delayed, but not the reason we need the fix in the first place

[serene willow]

Yeah, that's what I was told after testing, can't remember who told me that though.

[serene willow]

But just in case you wanna mess with it, each 5k = 20% increase (0.000001)

[clear meteor]

Cost per txn (not including any technically fully refundable rent deposits for creating new accounts) is basically priority fee in microlamports (0 by default) multiplied by the requested compute units, which by default is 200k * number of non compute budget instructions

You use compute budget instructions to set the priority fee and to override the requested compute units

Also there's a base fee of 5000 lamports * number of signatures in the transaction, which is around 1 or two and pretty negligible

[rich steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

damn that's some next level math, no wonder Sol founder said that coding on Solana is like eating glass 😄

[serene willow]

Hah, that explains why that value will have different final fees depending on the instruction, cause it may ask for more or less computing power

[rich steeple]

@clear meteor but what do you think will be the next step to get through this mess? we need to deploy a fix but what exactly is delaying it?

[desert beacon]

No, you pay a small fee relative to the amount of time you rent space on chain in pretty sure. Over a long enough time frame that sol gets used up. Could be wrong

[dry linden]

ok so labs is screwed atm then?

[rich steeple]

ye, currently not looking very pretty

[dry linden]

Hows that fix looking @barren magnet ? like eating glass?

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743647

[woeful oracle]

is labs still messed up for mining?

[uneven umbra]

Kinda

But try some hard refresh

Something can be done

[woeful oracle]

nah thats scary im not risking assets for a kinda

[clear meteor]

If you put enough sol in an account (the "rent exemption amount", based on amount of data you want to store) that rent was never taken from the account. You actually can't make an account with less sol in it than the rent exemption amount anymore, so the concept of rent being collected is sorta not a thing anymore

[desert beacon]

Gotcha thanks 🙂

[uneven umbra]

[woeful oracle]

r u mining bodhi?

[desert beacon]

Yea

[woeful oracle]

ok

[desert beacon]

Phantom helps

[woeful oracle]

ok

[desert beacon]

But the ui is lagging

[stoic fiber]

stuck in mining, cant stop it

[woeful oracle]

nah i dont likw how long it taking for stuff ill stay in score

[rich steeple]

red is bad

even orange is bad

[plucky brook]

Not able to dock fleet....is Sage down?

[robust abyss]

Been stuck mining for an hour now. Can’t stop.

[plucky brook]

yeah been trying to dock for about an hour too. have closed program several times and relogged into wallet but still cant dock

[rich steeple]

Look this, TPS has stayed pretty much the same in that period

network fees are 5x

only way to get through is by paying more fees

[barren magnet]

It's had it's fair share of land mines.

We had it on staging last night and caught some bugs in QA.

[stoic fiber]

labs UI is not responsive atm, starcomm issue?

[woeful oracle]

Power to the people

[rich steeple]

I also suspect that Starcomm is having troubles because UI is not updating, my craft started but no instance for 1h now

[flat vessel]

Can someone help me? I uploaded a ship on Labs, I made a deposit... the ship has now disappeared, I can't find it anywhere. Has this happened to anyone?

[rich steeple]

everything is stuck right now

[blazing crystal]

Have you fix this issue yet

[desert beacon]

I did my part

[uneven umbra]

lol

Did you get a good answer?

[desert beacon]

So so.

He said it’s the best gaming project on solana but to play the game if your interested.

Said it’s not the best coin to just blindly invest into. Better to know what you’re doing which is pretty sound advice. Said Ilv and gala are better tokens to just buy and hold if you don’t want to pay attention to them

[fluid laurel]

did someone actually buy a 5mil ship?

[pulsar moat]

There were 3x 5 mil ships and now 2 are off the market,

[desert beacon]

Yes

[wintry berry]

we dont know what they paid and how the deal was structured

but it is purchased

[fluid laurel]

so it was taken off market, but no actual atlas -> ship tx?

[desert beacon]

Yes it was bought otc

[fluid laurel]

i see, ty

[fluid laurel]

bros cooked, gala at 2bil, ilv at almost 1 bil
cant make mones from that

[desert beacon]

lol, yea hes more of a common denominator investor.

[quasi glade]

bitcoin to 1 mil

[patent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/inevitability-hugo-weaving-agent-smith-the-matrix-i-am-inevitable-gif-27686330

[fluid laurel]

btc 1 mil
sol 10k
mad lads 10mil

[quasi glade]

I dont hold much tho so that wont really help me. Like but it will...

🙂

Bitcoin is the driver. The only word lots and lots of people know. Chatter is picking up from the common folks. Ive heard more people in the last month mention it than the last 5 years.

[fluid laurel]

my barber asked me about bitcoin like 2 days ago when i got my haircut 😂

top is in

[west slate]

honestly yeah, atlas is in game fiat, right now it may be trending up but eventually it will hit a stable range

[quasi glade]

Maybe for now. Not forever tho.

I think of all the people (including myself) who should have listened to me about 3 years ago when I started really gaining airdrop and faucet steam. I told everyone to invest in bitcoin. Im smart.

I have little to none life savings. Im in heavy debt. But I pretty much went from 0 to 20k in the metaverse. Ppl just keep giving me stuff here. I love it.

How is everyone today BTW. Im gonna stop typing and listen.

Or read

[rich steeple]

I am going to sleep, good night

[spiral spindle]

sage is really really really fking slow

[wraith yew]

hey fam, how many memories should we have right now if we've completed everything so far? when searching my wallet, I can see 3

[low loom]

Hello all!

[lucid scarab]

Hey guys. How has the fix been going? Everything is slow in SA, when is not Solana, is Starcomm bugging and not uploading the front end.

It's by far the worst week in the SA history, almost impossible to do any action in the game. Very boring and disappointing. We understand problem and shit happens, but it's been a week and nothing was proposed yet to solve this, only increase your priorityFees.

[mint crystal]

I have 3 memories. One of my wedding day, and one for each of my kids.

Oh.... that's probably not what you were asking about.

[lucid scarab]

I'm really thinking about selling everything on market price and say goodbye to the project.

[lost fiber]

don't be so fickle, it's only been a week.

[lucid scarab]

I'm not kidding. If you are making fun with your money, it's up to you. I'm here as an investor, not a player.

[lost fiber]

I made $100 in 2.5 days yesterday

[lucid scarab]

I'm making it much faster

🙂

But it's not the point

The point here is, where is the solution?

[lost fiber]

sounds like you dont need to be complaining

[lucid scarab]

I'm complaining because this affects the profit

So yes, I should and I must to complain

[lost fiber]

It's an early development video game. If you want more stable returns you could download Robinhood lol

[lost fiber]

We call that "Big Karen Energy" in the states or BKE

[lucid scarab]

No stable, I wan't solutions. By the way, looks like you've never invested in nothing in your life, waiting for profit

[hazy hedge]

Do what you have to do. We’ve been in discord daily talking about it, why it’s happening, and what we’re doing to solve it.

[lucid scarab]

is it a video game? Really? I didn't study the case to enter in the game

Thank you for the explanation

[lucid scarab]

👍🏻

[late pollen]

Very frustrating. Sure we need to accept it, but it is fucking terrible. Only 1 in 5 txn goes through. When away I need to use the mobile version which makes it even worse. Losing hours a day just because Solana has technical issues. Good thing we know SA is working to fix it. A little more patience. And we are all in the same boat ...

[hazy hedge]

We had engineers working on a fix over the weekend too. A fix is coming.

We honestly work as fast as we can. We want to always do right by the community.

[lost fiber]

Are you engaging with Sage/Score at all or literally only investing it ATLAS token?

[fresh mountain]

What's the origin of the problem? Solana or SA?

[lucid scarab]

I'm also a developer as a entrepreneur, so believe me, I know what is pressure. I'm not saying that you're not working, or something like that, just more transparency. Where is the roadmap for this incident? Where is the post mortem for similar issues?

[hazy hedge]

It’s because of priority fees.

[lucid scarab]

What's is the short term solution? What is the long term solution?

have you considered moving some movents out the blockchain?

I really searched in twitter, medium, every social net work, and I didn't see this. So just point where we should follow the status

[fresh mountain]

I thought that would be added with Starbased. Now it will come this weekend?

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[hazy hedge]

Then you can understand that spending this much time on a game ID that’s going to be irrelevant when Starbased releases is tough.

Everything works in Starbased but we have engineers going back and fixing this for labs.

Our engineers are of course learning from this and we’ll communicate when a fix is ready

[thorny lagoon]

it is here for single transaction since saturday, but they are optimizing for multiple/bulk for stuff like crafting so the update is not completed for Labs.

As far as I follow - the fix is on staging, but they catched a bug so it needs a bit more work.

Sammy has been here in chat updating on the progress non-stop working over the weekend too

[serene willow]

Yes. 🤣

[desert beacon]

Idk about yall but the more delays and difficulty the better imo. Either way we’ll be ready for the alt run I want as much fud as possible to accumulate

[spare bronze]

Anyone has luck with RFR so far?

[lucid scarab]

Now we're speaking the same language, not "Just get your trash and do what you want to do".

Anyways, thank you for the explanation, and extra information about what is being done. This is exactly what I was asking since the first moment.

[serene willow]

How can I accumulate when I need to offset it in RFR? 🤣

[midnight steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/genki-dama-dragon-ball-trunks-goten-dragon-ball-z-gif-14084570

take our power!! engineering team!!

[lucid scarab]

Wish luck and good feelings for the next deploy goes 100% as expected.

[thorny lagoon]

Did you had any success following the workaround provided by Bryan: #👽┃general message

[serene willow]

Didn't work for me the entire day

[spare bronze]

Thanks man!

[lucid scarab]

And please, give more details about what is being done and the due date for this for every step that is being done. #📢┃minor-announcements should be much more used to inform the investors.

[thorny lagoon]

Also check here: #📊┃economics message
Seems like a reboot is coming soon. Multiple team members working on this, just a bit hard to follow

[versed wagon]

Demanding due dates wont work...trust me. Been part of this project for years. But relax- the team delivers.

[lucid scarab]

I'll try. I'm a bit paranoiac some times 🤣

Thanks for the advice

[mint crystal]

I prefer to issue my demands via glove slap challenges to a dual.

[thorny lagoon]

Simple minor announcement could have been made on Friday/Saturday not including any due dates. Example:

"Following community feedback Star Atlas team had detected issues with Sage Labs transaction performance which affects game-play and in particular crafting.

Our development team is currently working with high priority to provide a patch for Labs that should improve the performance and stability.

Stay tuned for updates in the patch-notes channel where more info on the update will be provided once it is released"

Also just because some things did not happen in the past does not mean they should stay like that. Or are you implying that as the game development and engagement progresses the community should not expect any progress in communication? Labs was not released 2 years ago if I am not mistaken.

[desert beacon]

Sounds like you got all the permanent info just fine 🙂

[topaz pine]

Why do that when they can be here speaking to us directly. Wanger is here with us EVERY DAY. Dom is here like once a week. Long live discord!

[modest vault]

cause some people like to just check announcements to see what's up?

do u read everything in everything you are involved in?

what if u r in 25 projects?

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/katena-sarcasm-tbv-sarcasm-eyeglasses-gif-16424238

[modest vault]

😂

fuck

[topaz pine]

you have been crafting too long

[modest vault]

not crafting

clicking buttons to craft

and failing

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-romance-couple-love-gif-5416952964386069278

[modest vault]

but I crafted 150M copper ore now for next 3 hrs

see if I can have more success on other stuff then

I hope it actually started

can't actually see cause it didn't appear yet

[topaz pine]

make sure to turn off priority fees toggle. only use that if the action involves multiple stages and if you dont see a priority fee in the phantom window it may not be working. so turn it off.

e.g.stop mining has multiple tx

[topaz pine]

thats been happenign to me every night. i wake up and no craft thinking im crazy

[modest vault]

yeah I tried both

I always have it off now cept for RFR

[topaz pine]

Heist so funny. they combined their gen1+ breeds with their genesis collection. and everyone sold shitty gen1s into the genesis buy orders.

crashed the market

[hazy hedge]

We did make this announcement but I’ll agree that it should have been a more clear message, especially with something that is affecting this many people. Appreciate the feedback friend

#📢┃minor-announcements message

[brave ember]

gn everyone

[thorny lagoon]

Thank you for always listening to the community Dom.

I would like to clarify to avoid any confusion regarding my comment.

I agree that this announcement was sufficient at the time it was posted.

However it left a lot of community members ( including me ) with the impression that we should not expect any fixes in Sage Labs until the release of Starbased

On Friday ( or maybe Thursday, I don't really remember ) it was made known in general chat that the development team is actually working to deliver such fix earlier.

So nothing wrong with the announcement, just an additional one to inform the community that the fix priority was increased as an update.

[magic sleet]

This doesn't address the RFR issue which was supposed to get a fix before starbased.

[spark marten]

Dom when is the date to release the roadmap?

[versed wagon]

communication should always be improved. I think a potential efficient way is to provide a way in the sage UI for a wallet address to be able to report a problem. Picklist by problem type with an open text box for additional comments. 1 report per wallet every 24 hours or something like that. That feeds into a dashboard report for a specific position within ATMTA that has the responsibility of monitoring trending reports. If they detect a trending problem, then they display a message in sage labs UI that says something to the tune of "We are aware of problem XYZ affecting multiple players. We are actively working on a solution and will keep you updated as we receive updates. We have no ETA on solution, but it is a high priority"

evryone just needs to be fully aware that they are playing a DEVELOPING game that is being built on DEVELOPING technology. EXPECT delays WITH NO due dates.

[spark marten]

My coloring book is the solutions for the rfr....

the rfr is not going to happen...tomorrow...is the brew...a bit more hype...then at the end of the brew they announce that next week we going to have an announce....and then 2 weeks fron now we have starbase

[hazy hedge]

Makes sense. Appreciate the feedback!

[hazy hedge]

Aiming for next Friday

[spark marten]

and then the most funny of all...lol...get ready....everyone will have a big amount of resources....and everyone will dump in the first day....and in starbase will be by %...so everyone will have similiar %....small rewards...lol.

[steady rover]

@hazy hedgeIt could be that the network problems affect the market, I placed a purchase order 10 minutes ago and it does not appear in the market...is there a ticket or do I wait?

[versed wagon]

you dont have to use your LP in the epoch you earn it. You can craft the starbase upgrade then spend the LP when you think your rewards will be maximized

if thats your working theory, then you can elect to wait to spend the LP when people are finished dumping. Of course, everyone else might have the same theory as you...