👽┃general

[vivid bear]

• more cargo

[faint prairie]

chain is new tec but i saw many tools banned from tribalwars........

[frosty frost]

I wish sledge had a commander sub warp slot... 🙂

[topaz pine]

No. If anything they could make a clone of Solana like Pyth.net did.

I heard the pingtimers arent super reliable because they arent paying for priority fees.

[atomic bramble]

Slightly faster yes but shorter range

Its all balanced as well it can be

[sly basin]

yes i have issues cant re suply toolkit or even craaft anything on MUD 2

[serene willow]

I kinda have to strongly disagree

[modest vault]

I finally connected phantom to v2

I had to spam click it

infinite times

and then eventually

this finally happened

[wary cradle]

Me too

[topaz pine]

oh that happened to me and i just kept resetting cache. went away after a refresh

[modest vault]

yeh I did that

and it was still there

[topaz pine]

weird

[modest vault]

but spamming got it to eventually work

which seems fucking retarded

to me

[topaz pine]

i was able to craft just now

and do some transfers

not sure why everyone is freaking out

is it just RFR?

[serene willow]

Anything more complex fails

[cyan wraith]

Same. Everything worked for me too (via Phantom). I did have to click twice to transfer cargo to wallet so that is just UNACCEPTIBLE!!!! 😉

[late pollen]

It's all the fault of the Americans. Everything worked fine until they woke up. Probably degen gambling their Solana away on Memecoins

[late pollen]

I still can't

[serene willow]

I'm going through with crafting simple stuff until this nonsense ends

[topaz pine]

its better to give more detail then just "this nonsense" that way we know whats going on

[late pollen]

Stop mining for example

[serene willow]

Been like this for at least 2 days. More like 4. Not as bad, but was starting to get much much slower

[topaz pine]

yeah just use the refresh trick

you guys are spoiled because its been running smooth the last 2 month

month 1-4 we had to refresh like 500 times an hour

[late pollen]

Doesn't help

[serene willow]

Nonsense = this latest Solana complete halt for Solflare users.

Bryan, don't get me wrong, I know there's no better option as far as chain goes (not even remotely). But it's rough to be locked out of the loop like this for such an extended period. It's not that it's fluctuating during the day. It's completely halted for complex actions. Yesterday was already very bad, but today it's just stuck.

[topaz pine]

Seems like a "you" problem. It's working great for me and a lot of other people.

You are being very dramatic.

"completely locked out of a loop"?

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[serene willow]

Bro, I'm definitely not. It's not working, and not just for me.

[late pollen]

No he's not. It has been like this for days and confirmed by many. Consider yourself lucky

[serene willow]

Please give me an alternative to crafting. That's what I mean.

[topaz pine]

RFR crafting correct?

[serene willow]

Nope. Anything other than single-ingredient recipes

It occasionally (very occasionally) goes through for 2-ingredient ones

I'm not just randomly bashing on Solana, this is systematically affecting everyone. Phantom makes it barely possible to do some stuff, but the reality is that SA has been mostly stuck for close to 2 days

[slow oriole]

I tried buying with Solana and Phantom, both didn't work. So i am assuming the problem is in Solana's end or Star Atlas's

[atomic bramble]

You are free to do so 😂

[modest vault]

everything is fine

but RFR

Iunno why u guys act so fatecious

like RFR is most important part of the economy atm

lol

also SDU farming is down over 50%?

like I said

raw prices will collapse

then u'll get some real crying

[cyan wraith]

Because I don't craft RFR! 🤣

[modest vault]

it still affects u

all those resources u r saving for starbased will be devalued rapidly

cause no one will be able to craft RFR or farm SDU

but mining will be fine

[serene willow]

SDU farming is down about 75-80% here, not "just" 50%

[modest vault]

jfc

😂

[serene willow]

Crafting also stopped

[frosty frost]

Stepn also down

[serene willow]

Will have to convert 700 crafting bikes into hydro mining to at least cut losses

Lol

But then, how? If I can't form fleets, refuel, etc...

[spark hollow]

SAGE down, Solana down, Facebook down, wtf going on is the internet just falling apart 😭

[serene willow]

But yeah, everything is working great

Discord was also weird just now, several channels not showing

[radiant dock]

yeah you are right

[wet shore]

god cant do shit in labs

[modest vault]

normal crafting is okay for me

just RFR is fucked

maybe it's worse now tho

[wet shore]

like cant pull anything from game or put anything in

[modest vault]

but RFR being fucked will fuck entire economy

[wet shore]

i cant do anything

[modest vault]

cause the proper equilbirium of burn of raw v SDU is out now

especially since SDU farming is dead

[wet shore]

yeah i was hoping to do rfr today

[modest vault]

lol

[old swan]

and each try consumes 0.025 sol

[modest vault]

no shot

[wet shore]

yeah sdu farm are dead

[modest vault]

I tried off peak for 3 hrs yesterday

[wet shore]

yeah same

[serene willow]

I can craft simple stuff too. But I (like pretty much 99% of people) am not a whale able to absorb days without offsetting R9 into RFR. Stocks are almost over, and I'll very soon have nothing to craft, cause any complex recipes fail

[wet shore]

They said its sol network

is it still bunged up?

or

[modest vault]

there's a lot of activity

but at the end of the day

the game is on SOL

lol

[serene willow]

Err... Not gonna happen

[wet shore]

Like whats gonna happen down the road when its heavy traffic all the time? game like star citizen and unplayable lol

[tall lava]

Steady lad

Fire dancer and star atlas tech coming

[lyric saddle]

UE5 miniloops with low tnx

Or wait for firedancer xD

[old swan]

tnx bundles

[lyric saddle]

Now we're talking

[bright basalt]

😦

[old swan]

[scan all], shoud be one tx for instance, not multiples

[wet shore]

Thats what im talking about noot noot

[serene willow]

Well... If we're in the "should" realm, scan shouldn't exist like it is. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

Frameworks FTW! Low crafting cost, long crafting time. Meanwhile we pray for Solana gods to revive it.

[old swan]

we are all dunningkruging here

[ashen snow]

guy is solana so slow also for You? my lab assistant take a lot of minutes to confirm transaction

[old swan]

todays theme

[serene willow]

Welcome to "everything is fine" land.

[ashen snow]

ok! hahah

[whole moon]

Stop Mining is Broken

[oblique forge]

RIP

[ashen snow]

no, it work but takes also 10 minutes

[waxen raven]

I'm so sorry for those won't get rich in the next 3 seconds

[oblique forge]

how so?

[waxen raven]

Just reading comments about slowness

[spiral spindle]

doing math with mining is pretty not inspiring waste time mining

[stray marsh]

Jupiter is eating up transactions

[viral ridge]

Who broke the internets?

[spiral spindle]

The US government broke the dam internet with all there spy wear and monitoring

[urban crypt]

all is broken 😤

[serene willow]

Why so salty?

[autumn steppe]

GM

[uneven umbra]

lol

[uneven umbra]

Gm buddy!

[tired sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/office-server-power-lady-unplug-gif-8220789

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/windows-windows-xp-loading-start-windows-xp-professional-gif-14539891

[reef hawk]

as its sees no mining today i give up , go to work mine some fiat⛏️

[tight flicker]

yes but a blue screen is needed..

https://tenor.com/view/error-ناني-صالح-gif-20369463

[small iris]

Dammmm I thought it was the only happing to me

[rich steeple]

SDU farmning broken too

[small iris]

There should at least be a message on the website saying it doesn’t work

So is anyone from the team gonna say what’s happening soon?

[rich steeple]

they never notify

[serene willow]

Solana is the cause, not the game itself

[solar elk]

solana down or labs ?

[small iris]

The network is fine

🤔

[uneven umbra]

Nope but network is congested and txns aren't going through super well

[solar elk]

I can't even hunt resources

[serene willow]

It really isn't

[small iris]

Where can I see the network status??

[tight flicker]

i have a report also in stepn , so something of distributed

[rich steeple]

last 6h looks stable

Ah nvm

mb 😄

[oblique vault]

what would yall recomend for a 35$ entry, I was originally thinking ustur but the travel distance for mud makes my eyes big

going to take things low n slow

[tight flicker]

yes , I think these days the problem is on the rpc's , as the network itself does not seem to have failure

[upper cipher]

MUD for life bro

[oblique vault]

Ive not seen the difference in scanning between ustur and the other 2 what is it?

[granite jungle]

Yes, is it is, fees

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-monkey-dying-gif-13123180

[signal raven]

When do we expect the game to start working again? also, is the team planning to ever admit that stuff is whack in an announcement? I'd just like to know what's up officially.

[stoic bone]

Is it more worthy to play score or sage labs?

[oblique vault]

more I read the more I wish I did more than add solana to a watchlist

[rich steeple]

Sage because score will be closed soon

[serene willow]

More active play, Labs. Score is better to just leave it there. But Score is crap, in my opinion. Lol

Also Score will close soon

[uneven umbra]

We are waiting for the network to stabilize. And this has already been discussed, starcomm is being rebuilt to avoid these problems + more improvements

[tight flicker]

maybe it's because of the hackaton ... people are training , is started yesterday

[uneven umbra]

Hey! Here you can check about the resource map #📢┃minor-announcements message

[faint prairie]

can u paste it so i can translate sticj

[uneven umbra]

And here you have some guides that will help you get started

!guides

[sour hearth]

Here are some great community created guides that can help you get started with Star Atlas!

• https://intergalacticherald.com/star-atlas-guide/
• https://aephia.com/star-atlas-guides/
• https://galiacrafters.medium.com/star-atlas-101-i-have-20-what-can-i-do-3e9c72e421d2
• https://hologramnews.com/star-atlas-guides/

[uneven umbra]

There are really four different categories of infrastructure improvements we're working towards right now:

1. Starcomm: Redevelopment in Rust, as people are aware. This actually is not going to lead to much of an improvement in player experience, but will offer significantly higher scalability in the solution. We estimate a maximum player count in the 30,000 concurrent player range in typescript, and orders of magnitude higher in Rust. Rust debugging is also much easier for our devs, so we can resolve issues that arise faster. There is some other nuance here, as this new version of Starcomm allows us to deprecate Colyseus and the Colyseus data schema, which requires data transformation to be handled by the client. That goes away. But this update is more about future proofing the platform.

2. RPC infrastructure: we are looking at creating redundances and a fallback option to our RPC service offering. This will (should) eliminate outages when we exceed rate limits or otherwise hit constraints on RPC processing. I do expect this to improve the overall player experience.

3. Indexing: I'm not comfortable going in depth on this topic yet, but the team is discussing some options we have to considerably improve the time between actions taken and their representation in the client. As an example, an action like docking your fleet might take 2-3 seconds (2000-3000 milliseconds) to appear in the client. With some reworking, it's possible we can get that down to 150 milliseconds, or almost equivalent to that of any mainstream product that doesn't integrate blockchain. This would have the biggest impact on player experience, imo. Would feel completely real time.

4. Priority Fees: given the increase in activity across Solana in recent months, the importance of setting priority fees has risen. None of our apps were architected to include those previously, because it just wasn't a necessity. These are changes that are rolling out now and over the next couple of weeks that should ensure transaction times stay on the lower end and improve confirmations, so less failed transactions.

I think a lot of these improvements will be rolled out between end of Q1 and Q2. Should be living under a drastically different player experience by then.

[uneven umbra]

Yeah, probably

[spiral spindle]

what has me concerned is ,,, how the hell is Solona going to handle this game when pvp comes out,,, i mean i am thinking of a future example,,,,,,,,,,,,,he is shooting at me i cant fire,, my wallet didn't load i mean are we going to have to sign every transaction we make in the game to our wallet that's every bullet every missile every module we turn on or turn off i don't see it unless i am missing something

[shy jacinth]

sage lags is so broken right now 😦

[rich steeple]

PVP doesn't add that much stress. I wonder what would happen if SA had 2x more players that all scan SDUs 😄

[sick iron]

I think that you might be a little salty 😜

[rich steeple]

Lab Assistant and SDU scanning is probable the reason why Solana keep having issues 😄

[sick iron]

But being real, you have some valid points

[old swan]

now, imagine a pvp where your tx does not go through but the enemy does

[sick iron]

hopefully these wrinkles will be worked out, we are in pre beta

[spiral spindle]

not actually salty , just concerned that when i am in a pvp fight the server or solona lags out and ship gets killed and there goes all my money

[rich steeple]

not perma death

[spiral spindle]

ya perma death in outer rings

[sick iron]

i was just making a dumb joke with your name...

[rich steeple]

umm well then gotta ask Solana for refund 😄

[spiral spindle]

ya i am sure they will give me back my 100k ship just because the server lagged lol

[rich steeple]

network rollback :D:D

or cash

[atomic bramble]

Totally a worrysome issue however the UE5 will likley be a web2-3 mix, especially in combat.

As for sage combat.. its not really skill based but size matters.. no excuse for the lag at all, but wouldnt be that bad i guess

[craggy spindle]

Hopefully they'll have it sorted out by then 🤞

So I'm not the only one still unable to do anything in labs?

[late pollen]

It's terrible, can't do ** anymore

[atomic bramble]

Haha no

[late pollen]

No, stuck for 2h20 now

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

[craggy spindle]

At least we're stuck together 😅

[atomic bramble]

Yup 😂

[urban crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-siamese-cat-smart-cat-sustainability-gif-27108491 Inthe room server hellomoon

[craggy spindle]

Is the problem with Solana or is it something the team just needs to work on? If its a Solana problem I'm a little more worried lol

[atomic bramble]

Both kind of

[wary field]

Has the team tried shutting off sdu farming to see if that would help?

[atomic bramble]

Solana added priority fees(pay more to get transaction through)
But the SA team did not implement that, soooo everyone else on solana is paying extra to bypass us 😂

[atomic bramble]

Has nothing to do with that

[craggy spindle]

Ah shit haha
I guess we're still technically pretty early....
Positive thoughts lol

[craggy spindle]

I can't scan right now either so idk how many people are SDU hunting right now lol

[west slate]

it might help bypass a few other algos and up priority for sage but yeah it would not get around priority fees right now

[heady vector]

has the team tried shutting down starcomm and turning it back on again? 😅

[west slate]

at best we would see 25% more transactions go through under current conditions

[tight flicker]

bro..

https://twitter.com/solana/status/1762509355637719261

Solana (@solana) on X

1/ Announcing the Solana Renaissance Hackathon, powered by @ColosseumOrg! 🎨

🌍 An online, global Solana hackathon
🏁 Running March 4 - April 8
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Learn more & register today: https://t.co/kCsGgA1jaV

Twitter · Feb 27, 2024, 4:05 PM

[west slate]

the issue here is that transactions are not going through due to the overuse of the network for defi

if the network was underutilized then transactions would mostly go through

[tight flicker]

we are under attack lol

[viral ridge]

My ships are finally out of mining! Yay!

[limpid isle]

This is painful

[rich steeple]

he wasn't wrong lol 😄

devs over cooked it

[craggy spindle]

That does kinda make sense now lol

[spark marten]

stop the bull market I want to play labs

[rich steeple]

bull market stronk when solana has network issues but price is still going up 😄

[tight flicker]

yes I would say the hackaton is more than enough explanation

There is a wait for the network to stabilize is taking all these stresses

[low loom]

Do we all need to become validators to help this?

[west slate]

likely yes, there are ways for validators to help make sure certain programs transactions go through

[gloomy forum]

I hate solana rigth now

[low loom]

I'm googling how to become a validator. Since next month I'm going to SA full time I might be able to do it!

[craggy spindle]

I guess it's good in the long run 🤔🤷‍♂️

[west slate]

I think its 700k to break even on a personal stake with 7mil needed staked

so we would need to set up validators with others

and slowly branch out

[low loom]

700k SOL or USDC?

[west slate]

talk to brian

[west slate]

usdc

of sol

5k sol

the catch is we would need 100+ validators to even begin to see this happen (soft fork)

we might want to get other game projects on board etc

its a staggering amount but I think its worth doing

[tight flicker]

in general yes, but in this case it is an organized event , so not much would have changed.
will be under attack probably all the nodes on the mainnet, so some network congestion is inevitable.
But I guess that's what it was organized for..

[west slate]

its not just the hackathon

[tight flicker]

rip for us.. for sure..

[west slate]

its general network activity as well

the fact is this is not the first time this happened

[tight flicker]

Yes definitely not only that but started just yesterday so it must be contributing a lot

[west slate]

and I was thinking of a soft fork solution to help get past these issues

[west slate]

remember yesterday was a monday with liqidity capped out, no liquidity makes it harder for defi to operate

ie everyone who has sol has higher borrowing potential but not enough to borrow to use it

so everyone is taking a lot more transactions to do what they want to do

[low loom]

It's the paradox of becoming popular.

[west slate]

the normal thing in this case is for market makers to add liquidity but with the usa on meltdown there is no rl liquidity to add in

[low loom]

After the election I hope things calm down in the USA

[stray marsh]

Normally how things go

[wary field]

Depends who wins lol

[west slate]

also brics has 2 things 1 they need to build up rl infastructure so they are short disposable cash also they have an incentive to not add liqidity to push out western influence - ie they benifit from this situation overall

[split solar]

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[subtle kestrel]

ALERT

Watch out for market speculators!

[west slate]

lol, on the finance side it might, on the other fronts nope there can be no calming down

[stoic bone]

Does it have a date to score to finish?

[low loom]

Yeah, thank you! I try to avoid "bots"

[stray marsh]

Brother

[west slate]

soft date, score ends when starbased is out

[low loom]

I hope they play that bounty bar song today!

Oh.. that's tomorrow

[spring cobalt]

i think i am going to back to score, sage labs market is cancer

[low loom]

Why? I love the market.

[spiral spindle]

we should just all ask the POS US government to give us a billion dollars each to go ahead and kill the dollar completely i mean were already pulling the biggest ponzi scheme in history, and yet we still have time to pull another 60billion out of our asses to give to Ukraine doesn't matter were trillions in debt.. so glade we have a worthless dementia (pos) for a scape goat for the downfall of the republic,

[proper flicker]

Try switching back to CSS. It will be difficult

[subtle kestrel]

Nah...keep your costs at bay and a price goal and you'll get profit. Its worth it still

speculator are a thing even in real world. Just make sure everybody sees them

[west slate]

the usd is on life support right now anyways

[last socket]

guys is labs still slow for yall

[west slate]

yeah give it a few hours

[subtle kestrel]

hellish slow

[low loom]

Yeah

[uneven umbra]

[west slate]

right now its beginning of the work day for the pacific coast, midday for the east and primetime for europe

[spring cobalt]

crafting is so ridicilous right now, selling raw materials more effective

this is really cancering

[west slate]

its the end of the labs life cycle, people want raw mats to prep for starbased as we don't know what we will need yet

labs effectivley went to preprare for starbased after golden tickets ended

[shell glacier]

I never trade with this mofos

[proper flicker]

sage.staratlas.com Doesn't it work anymore?

[gloomy forum]

I hate that bot

The only way is dump the price, buy all his items and sell all

[spiral spindle]

this bot with 3sma ....U88u controlls all the components

[gloomy forum]

If all report that wallet maybe mod do something

[desert beacon]

It’s impossible to censor wallets. Crypto is censorship resistant.

[gloomy forum]

You own the website you can do it

[lavish gorge]

3 months ago it was the arena pve tournament to beat @hazy hedge 's record, whoever did it first won a Busan. After doing it and trying to talk to the team during these 3 months, no one responded to me until 1 week ago when it was proven that I had really won and I was going to be rewarded for it. I sent the wallet because they were going to send me the said prize and even today, a week later, I am still waiting with no response. It's a good way to encourage future tournaments, honestly 😄

[desert beacon]

The entire marketplace and game are on chain. They cannot control the on chain activity

[gloomy forum]

The transacciones are in blockchain, you can dennied the access is some wallet is connect to the website

[desert beacon]

Bots don’t use the website to transact. They interact directly on chain

[serene willow]

Would be good enough to have a market bot flag, tracking transaction amount. We just avoid them manually from there.

[desert beacon]

There are community built tools that do this

[serene willow]

Yeah, but implementing it as a standard makes it visible for all

[gloomy forum]

OK lets they fuck all players insted

[spiral spindle]

maybe right the code different in the market place to use a shitty captcha in place are something

[desert beacon]

lol. Quite the jump

[gloomy forum]

Jajajajajaj is joke

[spring cobalt]

i think i will never sell that i mined raw materials, just saving

[desert beacon]

There’s other things to build that take priority is the thing.

[spring cobalt]

prices are really low

[spiral spindle]

mean while the shit bots make all the money on the market u cant stay up 24 /7 redoing your buy orders

[gloomy forum]

The economy for players is important that dependes if some try to inverts in the game or not, the bot are a big issue bro and really impprtant

[spiral spindle]

this guy needs to be banned period 3sma...u88u

[umbral jacinth]

I cant craft

[gloomy forum]

Its easy not show his offert in the market

[desert beacon]

The problem is anything that you do to target bots inadvertently gives them more advantage. The only solutions are global changes that affect everyone and level the playing field. There are 0 cases where you can effectively target bots and succeed. You’ll do more damage than good. If you don’t believe me just look at all the millions of dollars blockchain games have spent trying and failed.

And whats worse is their efforts often contribute to the destruction of the economy

[gloomy forum]

I think different than you bro, I think is easy to solve this problem

[desert beacon]

It takes .5 seconds for a botter to move all assets, and spin up another account

[west slate]

the data actually backs what Bodhi is saying

[gloomy forum]

You have the blockain for that and trace

[desert beacon]

It’s true. I don’t like it hear but you have to face the facts or destroy your economy those are the only two options

[desert beacon]

They can use the marketplace to transfer anonymously also you wouldn’t know if the new account was a orc

[west slate]

exactly this is not a pro bot stance its just reality

[gloomy forum]

No if you dont show his offert in the market

[west slate]

its actually square enix doing a whole bunch of toxic stuff to prevent real money trading on final fantasy xi that eventually brought me to entropia then here

[desert beacon]

Then he will transfer the assets otc and say it was an otc trade

[spiral spindle]

so what about putting a captcha in place right before buying an item couldnt that screw the bot over?

[gloomy forum]

Blockchain to trace

[west slate]

ie bots pushed me to crypto true story

[desert beacon]

How would you know if the new account was him or someone else he sold the asset to?

[gloomy forum]

All wallet involved to that accout banned

[west slate]

that does more harm then good

[spiral spindle]

just put like a puzzle captcha in place right before buying an item the bot could never buy again

[west slate]

ai is better at those then humans these days

[desert beacon]

That would give more advantage to bots. They transact directly on chain not through the site. They would bypass the captcha because they don’t use the site and everyone else on the site would have to do it.

[desert beacon]

lol, and what if they send assets to their competition? If your a trader and a bot sends you assets you get banned?

You have no way to differentiate a bot from a player if they attempt to mask it

It’s only obvious because they aren’t trying to hide

[west slate]

the amount of false flags from square enixes algorithims killed the final fantasy xi economy the rest of the way

[desert beacon]

The second you start imposing rules they will hide and you’ll never be able to tell

[gloomy forum]

Yes you can make a period for thats wallets if you see the y do the same hard banned

[west slate]

like I have watched that happen real time

[spiral spindle]

i got it the only true way is to find the wallet holder ,, get the address ,, go to there place of business or home, bust into said place,, and telll them your a beekeeper and take care of them ,,, lol protect the hive

[west slate]

its better to do it the way the team is doing it, by making the ecosystem harder for bots

the thing is we need more game out for that to be visable

[desert beacon]

Ok, then they will just slow down all their bots below that threshold. Now the highest performing manual traders, get called bots, and are removed accidentally, and the bots that are a little slower (programmed to be) stay.

[gloomy forum]

Is better than today

[desert beacon]

No it’s not, in this case you did nothing to stop the bots, you just removed their only competition.

That’s the thing you always inadvertently give them more advantages.

[gloomy elbow]

Im been hobbled by a bot right now does anyone want to sell an Armstrong tap for $1100?

[low loom]

if they just release the auto trader in the UI then everyone can use it and the playing field is leveled.

[gloomy forum]

I think you own a bot jajajajjaja

[spiral spindle]

what if you ban the material or components in a bots wallet just burn them so they cant use them are something that would certainly stop them like in other crypto games. example pegaxy if your were caught cheating they would just ban the horse from being used in races even though they still had the asset

[desert beacon]

I do. I don’t use it, that’s not where my perspective comes from. I’ve been in this space for a long time and have seen every single project that tried what your suggesting fail and lead to bots having a greater advantage. Often times resulting in the failure of their economy.

[desert beacon]

And where’s Pegaxy today?

Dead

[spiral spindle]

rug pull from hell lol

[gloomy forum]

With that you say this is important, for the economy

[desert beacon]

They probably got died due to bots if I had to guess

[subtle kestrel]

speculation is a thing even in our world. We cant avoid it.

I think there is a couple of things we can do though, like put a HUGE red flag on it and educate people to avoid those bots.

[desert beacon]

Because them trying to stop them gave the bots greater advantages

[subtle kestrel]

there are some signs to recognize a bot

[desert beacon]

Being bot agnostic is one of the single most important prerequisites for a sustainable economy. For many reasons

[spiral spindle]

Bot

[desert beacon]

While your probably right bots aren’t the only ones that fill both sides of the order book

[subtle kestrel]

block buy and sell simultaneously could help. No one needs to buy and sell the same resource at the same time.

[west slate]

yes having individual lists, on top of the fact that we need to manually chose what orders we fill helps a lot (note you can set ignore lists in the market ui itself)

[spiral spindle]

i mean all you have to do is put something up in buy orders any time of day and watch it delete itself and price one number above yours

[craggy spindle]

It's super frustrating. They do the same if you're trying to sell something too 🤦‍♂️

[west slate]

then help close the spread

[normal stone]

gm

[west slate]

note your trying to benifit from the large spreads the bots themselves create

also note market place bots become less anoying as there is more gameplay

this is all part of the early dev stage

[craggy spindle]

Or just trade p2p 🤷‍♂️

[spiral spindle]

i this point i am wondering if buying ships , taking time to go mine worthless product compared to cost of ships i mean it would take years to get make profit ,, vs just dca material and horde till we can make everything and make the ships ,,,,,

[dark crypt]

guys i have a problem about re-supplying

can u help me about that ?

[spiral spindle]

sure whats up

[dark crypt]

i have already some sol in my phantom wallet but

i cant re-supply or claiming atlas from my ships

[low loom]

Find your niche.

[west slate]

give it a few more hours

[dark crypt]

it's not new actually almost 2 days

[west slate]

its better today then it was yesterday

[dark crypt]

if it is okay just tell me please

[craggy spindle]

Right now all the ships we buy come fully built and with crew. Later that won't be the case. And God only knows what the price of materials or ships will be down the line so there is benefit to buying ships now for sure. Was better a few months ago but prices are still way better then what they were last bull market

[west slate]

the issue is network activity, if phantom is not pushing up the priority fees high enough for you to get it to work the best move is to wait

[craggy spindle]

It's like that for pretty much all of us lol

[west slate]

what we have right now is europe prime time and the entire usa at work ie traders using defi

[dark crypt]

oh so all of you guys have the same problem

[west slate]

yes

[dark crypt]

okaay then i'll wait thanks for help

[west slate]

I am telling you to do exactly what I am doing

[spiral spindle]

ya thats why i bought ships lol there like US Tresure bonds lol when will they start making profit .... lol

[subtle kestrel]

game will change a lot and bots wont make easy profit anymore. At least thats what i think.

Meanwhile, players should take note of those bots and ignore them completly

if they can't sell anything, then whats the point?

[spiral spindle]

This is all Bitcoins fault ,,,,,,,lol blame it all on the bit

[subtle kestrel]

but i think this should be organic and not some rule enforced by the devs

[low loom]

Yeah, people opposed to bots can ignore them. I'll pay a bit more to avoid a known bot.

[spiral spindle]

70k buy friday i am betting

[old swan]

strange that always some fleets seems more affected than others

[low loom]

I'm off to work. These ships won't buy themselves!

[spiral spindle]

i want to go kill people in space think i am going to go play eve for a bit lol , sage is annoying the hell out of me right now especially with having to deal with the shit timer ledger has on it

[craggy spindle]

I don't expect to make significant profit for a couple years really. I just remember what prices were like in the beginning and don't wanna spend $1200 on an Ambwe again so I'm stocking up while I can.
Till there's a game and DAC tools it's just a waiting game. Labs can be fairly profitable depending on how much time you put in and what youre doing, but that's not really what we're here for. Labs is more just to give us something to do I think lol

[craggy spindle]

Have you tried Elite Dangerous?

[spiral spindle]

never heard of it .. nice screen shot though

[craggy spindle]

It's as close to what I hope Star Atlas will be like that I've found

[spiral spindle]

i hope its like eve it has the eve feel to it

[gloomy elbow]

Labs is good for making $$$ to buy more ships 😀

[craggy spindle]

I actually haven't played eve. I'll have to check that out

[west slate]

elite dangerous is more ue5, eve is more sage

(yes I played both)

[proper flicker]

Star Citizen?

[spark hollow]

Eve is kinda halfway between, but ye more or less

[west slate]

I would go with Ellie odissy over sc right now as it likely has more of the feel that ue5 will have

note I have both elite and sc

also elite is a full game

[spiral spindle]

dont see how your making money in labs , it seems it will take a long while, if you consider all the expenses and TIME you spend vs the expense of the purchase of your ships but i do have hope that one day soon in this bull we will be rewarded from our efforts handsomely

[craggy spindle]

Hahaha yeah, it's good if you're able to. It just depends on your fleet. If you want to make money to buy ships you're better off getting another job at this point lol

[craggy spindle]

I heard it's super buggy. Looks like a great game though. I've been thinking about grabbing a ship or 2 and checking it out. I keep spending all my money on SA though 😅

[craggy spindle]

Ahh ok. I just looked it up and I can definitely see that lol

[craggy spindle]

It's the size of the milky way galaxy! 🤯

[spiral spindle]

EVE is probably the best space game ever over 20years lol that is what got me hear the similarities on December 31, 2020, the Massacre at M2-XFE broke the record of largest total destruction in a single battle, costing about US$378,012 in player investments. The scale of the B-R5RB and others in the EVE Online universe have sparked the development of in-game historiographies and public history.

[wraith yew]

Is anyone else having issues trying to stop mining?

[spiral spindle]

yes havent been able to stop for over an hour now

[wraith yew]

Ahhh ok, I guess I should come back later then 😅

Never alone

[spiral spindle]

soon as i press it it tells me wallet transaction failed

[mint crystal]

There are a few really good articles/videos that break things down.

@thorn swift has an entire series of articles.

[mint crystal]

Ooooh! NOW the Zealy campaign makes sense!

[wraith yew]

I actually got one through just now!

[spiral spindle]

i mean we all have our on way of thinking and trust me when someone finds a profiable way to make money and one of these streamers finds out and shows to the world it wont be profitable long

[craggy spindle]

Thats pretty sick! So people spend money on ships in Eve?
One of the things I like about Elite is you don't have to spend money if you don't want to. Well aside from the actual game that is. You can buy ship skins and body kits but it's not necessary.
The flight mechanics are my favorite part about elite. Especially with a hotas. It can be kinda tedious at times but all in all they did a really good job 👌

[mint crystal]

That's what I like about these articles - they explain how to figure this stuff out. The "teach a person to fish" method.

[spark hollow]

not exactly. The ingame currency, ISK, can't be exchanged for real cash in either direction, but the way subscriptions work is u buy the premium money, PLEX, which u can either spend 500 of to get an Omega Subscription, or sell to other players on the in-game market

[spiral spindle]

true as long as you dont teach them how to fish for moby-dick lol

[mint crystal]

Pfft I'll be whale hunting, for sure.

Maybe that wasn't the moral of the story... 🤔

[spiral spindle]

for example it takes 6 real life months to make a titan ship in the game and over a year to learn how to fly it correctly thats assuming you have all the basic crap learned already

[mint crystal]

What is that crafting process like? Is it engaging, or more just a straight time sync?

I'm. really hoping that SA ultimately has a fun and engaging crafting system.

[umbral jacinth]

None of us will be able to migrate to starbase!!!!!!

We are fuc*e d !

[spiral spindle]

lol google spreadsheets have their own eve online data spreadsheet you can go within the game its the most intense crafting i have seen in a game

[umbral jacinth]

What is the issue?

SA?

[spark hollow]

it's similar to SAGE, resources go in, u wait and other resources go out

[umbral jacinth]

Or solana netw?

[spiral spindle]

i believe some of the devs in star atlas are from EVE ,,

thats why i have high hopes for star atlas being the greatest game ever

[mint crystal]

I want crafting to be it's own mini game. To build the warp drive, there's some sort of sequence and combination that we can mess with to try to find the right balance.

Maybe some combination produces something that's incredibly efficient but not as powerful. Another combo produces something very powerful but unstable.

Then we could each have our own "formula".

[spiral spindle]

so u want something like rng?

[mint crystal]

Bonus points if we do some manual action related to the crafting process.

[spiral spindle]

oh ok so like the more time involved with making it makes it better

[mint crystal]

I played a game where to craft a sword, you had to collect the raw materials, stoke the flames, time the bellows, select your oil, etc. and it all produced different results.

[spiral spindle]

ya ok like i hope ashes of creation will be

if it ever comes out

[mint crystal]

Oh, possibly? Haven't heard of that one

[spiral spindle]

its another one of those 10 year wait and see star citizen games lol

[mint crystal]

I just want it to be an engaging and fun experience all on its own. Not just a click and wait type thing.

[mint crystal]

These can be frustrating, but also the best types of games to dream about potential.

[spiral spindle]

i want to buy a fly simulator and play star atlas lol

[gloomy elbow]

Id be happy with just being able to unload cargo right now..

[spiral spindle]

are have it on VR would be nice

[mint crystal]

...baby steps heh

[spiral spindle]

Something went wrong please try again later 😡 😡

[craggy spindle]

Ahh ok. I get it. That's not too bad then 🤔

[craggy spindle]

Haha wouldn't we all 😅

[spiral spindle]

i wonder if the cpus and gpu are melting at solona

[gloomy elbow]

Its literally game over right now Im gonna go make some meatballs...

[pulsar moat]

Hello what we need is a good Boss hunt just like those MMOs for the community, or a really really hard UE5 race track that is almost impossible to finish complete with prizes etc. need Atlas to join off course

[umbral jacinth]

I’d be happy in start crafting

[fresh frost]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-homer-the-simpsons-gif-4314259273459992031

[pulsar moat]

I'm in faction fleet though, is the site down?

[spiral spindle]

lol simpsons have predicted we will be invaded by aliens this year so who knows...

[gloomy elbow]

Ill post pics its gonna take me an hour..

[fresh frost]

Niiiice, please do

https://tenor.com/view/salt-bae-sprinkling-salt-gif-7535412

[fresh frost]

Damn ONIs!

[craggy spindle]

I wanna do a dual stick set up but this is what I'm using for now. Can we use flight Sims in the showroom? Whenever I've logged in with mine hooked up the showroom glitches like crazy

[fresh frost]

Skulls and Bones made a tool for it.

[craggy spindle]

Thats dope! How do I go about finding it? Have you tried it out yet?

[fresh frost]

Nope, I’m still mac only for a few more months.

[craggy spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-geicos-caveman-3doors-down-let-me-be-myself-song-wait-what-gif-20064762

[fresh frost]

@simple latch can you help this man rock a showroom?

[craggy spindle]

You're the man Carlos!

[topaz pine]

um

entire market just dumped

SOL 119

[split solar]

Attention, everyone!

Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/crypto-moon-btc-gif-24030358

[topaz pine]

that was a fast liquidation

RIP

[waxen raven]

BEWARE! This bot makes trades ! 🤣

[simple latch]

https:// github.com/skullnbonesdao/SnB_HOTAS @craggy spindle

[gloomy forum]

is time to Make Atlas Great Again

[desert beacon]

Noooo

I was worried

[dusk trout]

!fun

[desert beacon]

Oh you’re talking about the market in general not your position?

[dusk trout]

... whatever ... this pain is familiar.

[fresh frost]

https://tenor.com/view/ups-oops-gif-25712345

[topaz pine]

yeah i was fine. but i paid off a bit just in case. sitting at 108 liquidation not a good feeling

[fresh frost]

That was risky

[topaz pine]

yeah but i got a bunch of TIPS out of it. worth the risk

https://tenor.com/view/glenn-quagmire-family-guy-giggity-gif-4084933

[fresh frost]

I don’t know

[topaz pine]

you not a TIP fan?

[fresh frost]

I’m not a fan of liquidation 😂

[topaz pine]

its true but when you leverage super fucking hard its like "Oh no they made me sell at $120."

worst things in the world

[fresh frost]

I do 75% asset-to-loan only

[topaz pine]

thats pretty high

[fresh frost]

No, I’m cashing 25%

[topaz pine]

ohhhh

that is very non risky

[fresh frost]

I keep the liquidation price as low as possible.

Just in case… 😅

[topaz pine]

if something is going to crash to 25%

then you better off getting out at 75%

[fresh frost]

Yeah, if I reach that liquidation I have other things to worry about 😂

[craggy spindle]

Thanks bro! Awesome that you guys did that! 🔥

[waxen raven]

you bought something from a bot without knowing it: you are banned

[waxen raven]

did you know? geheim stadt polizei was disbanded

[gloomy forum]

if you banned first you know when you banned you can see trsanction after that. not in the past

and if you block that wallet in the market all cant buy from that wallet

all can be programed, and find one solution, im not a program guy but im work for consultand in SAP

[pulsar moat]

How do I know if it's a legit MOD that is DMing me

[pastel knot]

it's not

I mean, there is a chance for it. But if you weren't expecting a mod to DM you then I'd be very wary of them DMing you out of the blue

[pulsar moat]

Can the Mod msg me here

[pastel knot]

you can open up a ticket and talk with the real people through that if you need

[craggy spindle]

Don't give your wallet or seed phrase to anyone! If you put a ticket in they'll talk to you in this server

[uneven umbra]

That's not going to happen, we're not going to send you a dm

100% scammers

[pulsar moat]

Can you ban the account

[waxen raven]

And your boss says save money save money!

[pulsar moat]

Can I send a screen shot here

[uneven umbra]

If you need some specific help, we can do it in a ticket #ticket

[uneven umbra]

#🚨┃scam-report here pls

[pulsar moat]

Ok thanks

[uneven umbra]

Anytime buddy!

[gloomy forum]

my boss is asking me rigth now if the programer was finished his job, for i can start prove the changes xD

[craggy spindle]

Happened to me too so I reported it

[pulsar moat]

Stay safe friend

[craggy spindle]

Apparently our conversation was supposed to be legendary 🤣

[faint prairie]

anyone can do something on labs

[gloomy forum]

no xD

[faint prairie]

zero right no need to f5 spam

[wispy widget]

It’s the priority fees thing. Should have an update coming soon

[uneven umbra]

Banned, thanks for the heads up!

[simple latch]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-salute-hat-off-condolences-jack-sparrow-hat-off-gif-18163964

[pastel knot]

Just thought I'd point out that SOL priority fees are currently at about 0.00001 sol, so you're essentially paying double for each transaction. Went all the way to 3x a while ago. Something to keep in mind when SA integrates the priority fees.

I have no idea how it got this bad, but the current SA gameplay mechanics are going to make SOL validators rich if this keeps going.

[pulsar moat]

Is there a SOL TXN fee burn like in ETH?

[desert beacon]

L consultant

[desert beacon]

You can’t stop otc

[maiden swift]

See if it is on this server, and then report it to thr #🚨┃scam-report

[desert beacon]

And once those assets are sold /sent otc you can’t tell if they are sold/sent to a bot or a high volume trader

[gloomy forum]

you can not show his offert

[desert beacon]

Do you know what otc is?

[maiden swift]

Wait, it was meant to be 0.00001 SOL for the Internet fees?

[pastel knot]

normally it's 0.000005 sol. Now it's about double.

[maiden swift]

Shet

[waxen raven]

Once again bots have margins they are not here for you to become rich.
Neither you or the guy that talked just before you or the one before or the one before want the other to be more wealthier, this is the labs compétition.
Personnaly all i hear is whining because you have been outbid: put a 5% diff and see if the bot outbids you.
If this can make you more comfortable think of a bot like a nerd that 20H a day stands there see if someone has outbid him.
You could actually be thanking them because they regulate the market and do arbitrages. You think you'll make a bunch of money in 2 secs probably better play bingo.
The day the game will come alive and the prices will flatten, you will be happy to buy something not too expensive.

[sly remnant]

labs still doesnt work. anyone knows whats problem about it?

[valid yoke]

Hey all

[maiden swift]

Please work, I was planning to play it today ;-;

[valid yoke]

How's the network today??

Nvm

[desert beacon]

Worse

[valid yoke]

Obviously it's still total garbage

[pastel knot]

yeah even worse than yesterday

[jade grotto]

.00003 lol

[valid yoke]

And they wanna release Starbased and nuke passive earning lol

Classy

[maiden swift]

We can nuke?

[pastel knot]

damn I think you got the highest one yet 😄

[valid yoke]

No, but the team can 😛

Well sort of

[desert beacon]

Nuke it all

[maiden swift]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-death-star-galactic-empire-battle-station-gif-17503551

[valid yoke]

I'm just more sad to see prices tanking so fast

Stupid paper markets

[maiden swift]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-wallet-i-am-broke-no-money-no-cash-gif-24120042

[valid yoke]

Not there yet lol

[maiden swift]

Currently some of us now after network price goes up

[desert beacon]

I’ve had to sell all my liquidity for atlas to pay for crafting fees cause I can’t craft the dam rfr

Sucks man

[maiden swift]

How much is the crafting fees?

[valid yoke]

The Atals fees for crafting are ridiculous

[desert beacon]

I’m burning through hundreds per day

[valid yoke]

It's the reason a lot of us sell raws now instead of crafted stuff

[jagged dawn]

Some of my fleet are stack for >8h now. Is there anything wrong? It went so smooth last 2 weeks

[maiden swift]

https://tenor.com/view/blood-bleed-chen-he-gif-10201239

Hundred of USD???

[desert beacon]

Block space is in high demand

[desert beacon]

Yes 😦

I’m running so low it’s bad

[maiden swift]

Those fees are enough for me to change to SOL on invest

[valid yoke]

It's expensive as shit

Hard to see how anyone can make money with them the way they are lol

[simple latch]

Team will need to figure this out soon

[desert beacon]

They have a solution coming with based

[maiden swift]

I'll just go for shipping and mining, no crafting for now

[jagged dawn]

Thank God you became a validator right?

[crimson drum]

when airdrop destributing

[craggy spindle]

There's a Solana hackathon happening

[limpid isle]

man, these priority fees are not friendly to scanners 🩸

[last socket]

hi guys

does ledger support solana chain

[craggy spindle]

Yup!

[last socket]

so i can play labs and everything like i had it in phantom

and have every token

[craggy spindle]

It can be used for Labs as well

[last socket]

great, thanks

[desert beacon]

I’ll be in mainet in the next few weeks 🙂

[craggy spindle]

Yeah, you can either connect directly to your ledger or through phantom or solflare if you'd like

[last socket]

but wait i can have my ships in ledger also, right?

[craggy spindle]

Sure thing!

[craggy spindle]

Yeah. The ledger just holds your seed phrase. I connect through phantom myself

[random cobalt]

hi

[desert beacon]

Guys check out the keyst.one wallet

It’s so much better than ledger

[last socket]

so, it isnt like wallet itself

[plush vessel]

yes

[desert beacon]

I still have ledgers but I’m all about the keystone

[last socket]

like i have all my things in just one wallet and thats ledger

[lost fiber]

Damn Sage is f****d right now lol

[last socket]

like i dont want my ships and that to be in my pc just in my wallet

[craggy spindle]

To be honest I'm not entirely sure how it works but that's my understanding

[desert beacon]

You got it right wallets don’t hold tokens they hold permissions

[last socket]

can i play labs with it

[desert beacon]

Yes

Through solflare

[craggy spindle]

Does it work with Star Atlas? 🤔

[pulsar moat]

Bohdi have you tried the swap feature in the ledger app?

[desert beacon]

Nope

[last socket]

i thought it is wallet just itself

[valid yoke]

What makes it better?? And how much is it??

[desert beacon]

It’s like $130 and can store 3 keys.

[last socket]

what are then advantages with hatdware wallet

[fresh frost]

that looks interesting

[pulsar moat]

Ic was thinking of swapping some BTC there

[desert beacon]

Thoochscreen. Biometrics. Camera for air gapped tx.

[valid yoke]

All that for $130?

[desert beacon]

Might be good, idk about the liquidity and fees

[desert beacon]

Yea man

[valid yoke]

Hmm

[desert beacon]

It’s sooo much better and none of that stupid seed backup backdoor crap

[craggy spindle]

The wallet I believe is connected through the ledger app. The physical device is what store the seed phrases. At least that's how I think it works. Someone else probably knows more about it lol

[fresh frost]

on sale for $105

[pulsar moat]

Ic Roger that

[last socket]

i thought i can have all my things in just like that one stick

not in pc

to be safer

[fresh frost]

all your thing are on chain. The ledger is for access to them

[desert beacon]

The coins are stored in chain the device stores the permissions to access/use those tokens

[craggy spindle]

Yeah I don't like that at all. Would be one thing if they told us and gave us the option to decline

[desert beacon]

The assets aren’t a storing the wallet. The term wallet is a misnomer. It’s more like a key than a wallet

[last socket]

oh, so i need to plug it in to access all my tokens and NFTs

[plush vessel]

All assets are on Chain, the Ledger holds your keys.

[desert beacon]

You can decline but that doesn’t change the fact the device is capable to send the send which is crazy

[desert beacon]

In the case of the ledger yes. In the case of the keystone no keystone can be used in airgap mode

[west slate]

does it work with solana

[desert beacon]

Yes

Through solflare

[west slate]

hmm, the only issue is for ue5 then

[desert beacon]

Yes

[craggy spindle]

Gotcha. Yeah, I was pretty shocked when I found out about that whole thing. Definitely wish I wouldn't have updated my ledger but I didn't know till afterwards 🤷‍♂️

[desert beacon]

Check out the keystone I still use ledger but I’m no longer endorsing it

[west slate]

yeah I think I'm effectivly going to stick with ledger for now, perhaps once the other has intigration, also the entire player profile thing will let us mess around with the root wallet

[plush vessel]

I'm looking for something other than Ledger since the forcus everyone to update the firmware with the Backdoor.

[west slate]

meaning its best to just wait to swap over

[desert beacon]

https://keyst.one

[fresh frost]

I agree, but I did like the price

The Stax has a ridiculous price

[desert beacon]

3 pro $105 for three keys

[craggy spindle]

I definitely will. Thanks bro!

[desert beacon]

Np 🙂

SA devs put me onto it

[plush vessel]

I looked at them years back, i'll look at them again thanks

[last socket]

so wait they have only one product

and that 3 pro

[tight spear]

I moved to tresor after all Ledger drama

but this keystone looks nice

[plush vessel]

What do you think about Tangem wallet?

[gloomy forum]

what happen with ledger?

trezor dont have solana

[tight spear]

it does

[gloomy forum]

now yes?

[last socket]

so wait they have only one product
and that 3 pro

[valid yoke]

Can we transfer the ledger over directly to it or is it a swap process??

[gloomy forum]

i have both

[tight spear]

well ledger had data leeek some time ago, and aparently they have in hardvare option to send your seed and keys out "if you chose so"

[west slate]

I already have all the ledger devices I need right now though

[plush vessel]

this

[maiden swift]

I remember SOL has release their wallet phone, heard the review thst is it bad

[gloomy forum]

😮

[west slate]

remember its new

[maiden swift]

Mmmm, idk

[tight spear]

bad or not Saga phone buyers got enough money to buy few better phones and hard wallets XD

[west slate]

meaning its just the first iteration right now, let it get better

[maiden swift]

Will try, but I wanna hear review first

[west slate]

ie don't rush to buy one just yet

[west slate]

its not like its avalible for mass consumption yet ether

[valid yoke]

The SAGA phone is good for airdrops

Been debating on getting one just for that

Then sticking it on Helium or something maybe

[gloomy forum]

I get ledger only for star atlas and is not safe

[west slate]

I'm thinking of getting a saga for busness use

[valid yoke]

So what I am gathering is Ledger is no longer safe right??

[whole moon]

Stop Mining is Broken<

[west slate]

its still safer then a hot wallet

[tight spear]

i mean its all safe depending how you use it

if you use ledger to sighn contracts its hot / hard wallet lol

cold / hard wallet should not sign anything exept send /recieve

[west slate]

not exactly

[valid yoke]

Hmmm

[west slate]

hot wallet is about the seed being on the computer

ledger hides the seed better

[valid yoke]

But then people can just recover it some way tho right??

[plush vessel]

They always claimed that the keys would never beable to leave the Harware, and then they went updated the firmware to do just that.

[ancient spire]

I got a fleet stuck mining. Do I need to create a ticket?

[valid yoke]

Hmmm

[west slate]

hot wallets are vulnerable to people digging around in all the backlog from the operating system

[gloomy forum]

All have, we are all in the same Page, solana is the problem

[ancient spire]

Thanks

[regal crest]

I can't sell products in the market, anyone having problems?

[west slate]

sol is jammed up right now

[valid yoke]

Does anyone know what is actually going on?

Is it just busy?

Or is there some event or something happening?

[west slate]

bull market shenanigans + no liquidity

someone mentioned a hackathon but I bet its more just general bull market stuff

[last socket]

why not safe?

[ancient spire]

You have to subscribe to this though, so just dont subscribe, or am I missing something?

[valid yoke]

I'm trying to invent a soup....

I suppose it is more like stew the way I envision it....

[plush vessel]

The code is on your wallet if you use it or not, and can be exploited if you use it or not. that is the issue, the backdoor should have never been added. There should have created a different line of Ledger devices with this feature instead of forcing everyone to the new feature.

[spiral spindle]

WTB a ledger with a 8 hour time limit on the 8 digit lock out ,,,, dam thing locks me out so fast they really need to upgrade that

[west slate]

you can change that

[granite jungle]

To low solfees in Sage makes it stop

[west slate]

the fact that its possible is the problem

[spiral spindle]

through live ?

[west slate]

settings on the ledger itself

[mystic mango]

But only up to 10 minutes

[serene willow]

I think you can turn it fully off

[west slate]

you can turn it off

[plush vessel]

you can turn off the auto Lock, in the setting on the device

[mystic mango]

Hm. Look at that. Glad I looked before I mouthed off

[spiral spindle]

k must not have seen it

[mystic mango]

It's under screensaver

[spiral spindle]

not in the nano s i dont believe

[mystic mango]

Not sure which one that is, but if it's the higher-lower-end one, I just did it.

[granite jungle]

Sol working fine, but priofees in Sage is wrong, sage devs has to fix this

[west slate]

most platforms auto include priority fees

sa does not

so the rest of whatever your doing may work as is but it does not change the fact that the network has a lot of activity

[regal crest]

I can't sell in the market, the wallet is not responding right now.

[granite jungle]

Yepp, Sage can’t work in high traffic

[spiral spindle]

lol need time dilation for traffic

[west slate]

labs assistant lets you set your own priority

the real question is it worth messing around in sage if you need to add those in

[granite jungle]

Sad, when its all a bots gameshow

[fresh mulch]

whats with the fleets it is still mining since yesterday

is there a bug or we keep tryin

[west slate]

wait

as in push the transaction through when network activity drops

or use phantom to try

as phantom auto adds priority fees

again labs assistant lets you set what the fee is

[fresh mulch]

so the chain is the issue not atlas

[fresh mulch]

mining hydro so not gona pay an extra penny 😛

[next sigil]

im mining and transporting just fine

[granite jungle]

no chain issue, Starcomm can’t work in high traffic

[west slate]

exactly thats the issue here, prices on r9 don't reflect priority fees, also whales with bigger mining fleets absorb all that without needing to add anything

[regal crest]

I can't sell products in the market, it doesn't react

[west slate]

again this is about priority fees not starcom at this point

[granite jungle]

True, but still team can fix this

[fresh mulch]

same issue with everyone

[granite jungle]

Nope

[fresh mulch]

what u selling

[lost fiber]

sucks theres bots but if the game were designed to make manual play even remotley worth it people woldn't need bots

[regal crest]

R4

[west slate]

the point is adding priority fees from their end changes a lot of other aspects about the economy so its not something they can just do

they need to model the econ impacts etc

for example at my size I would rather wait it out then try to mess with adding the priority fee

the rest is about delay, if we knew transactions were going through starcom is good enough at picking it up eventually

[granite jungle]

They have to do it now or close it down til fixed, this is just a mess

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[west slate]

umm you do understand that this is on chain it can't just close down, also you can chose to deal with the problems or you can wait

[gloomy elbow]

where under screensaver?

[granite jungle]

Sure …

[west slate]

no <@&809877248572260394>

[modest vault]

We might need to all apply soon

Way markets is going

Don't ban him yet

😂

[modest vault]

Where's the 62k this week versus last week meme

[west slate]

markets going fine

[modest vault]

Yeh I mean I top sold and positioned perfectly

Chilling

Saw a lot of tears tho

Would be nice if labs worked tho

Zzz

[west slate]

still the real fun starts what end of next month

[valid yoke]

Market motions like this are why I will always work 😛

Take vacations sure

But never stop grinding

💪

[late condor]

someone's gotta earn us our booty after all

[uneven umbra]

[west slate]

I mean I'm cleaning up some loose ends right now and going to be back on the govs arse soon about what they owe me

labs being down right now just means my orca positions are doing well, so I'm chill

[simple cloud]

Labs ded?

"Only possible on Solana" (most of the time) 😂

When is firecracker coming?

[west slate]

only if you don't want to add extra fees

[simple cloud]

Back to Phantom then, I guess.

Do we know if Starbased will be 3d?

[stray marsh]

yes

[simple cloud]

yes, we know it, or yes, it will be 3d 🙂

[faint prairie]

we are back guys

[last socket]

it willl be web right?

[maiden swift]

I guess I'll just put the game aside until the whole website fixed 🥲

[lost fiber]

Hey man, can you explain the fees? I see the number "1000" being quoted. What currency does that refer to? Can you help me understand how to determine if the fee you set makes playing unprofitable?

[craggy spindle]

Labs is working for you now?

[desert beacon]

Can import seed

[faint prairie]

i did some staff

[spiral spindle]

Dont worry guys the internet outages are just the result of the NSA tampering and spying on everybody in the name of safety to keep everybody safe,

[west slate]

its like the extra gas fee on eth, however normally for sol its 100% optional, just in high activity times it becomes mandentory

its just an extra number on top of the tx fee is all

[subtle kestrel]

@waxen raven ok bot. Go back to parasite the game. We will keep flaggin your bots so you dont sell anything.

[craggy spindle]

Nice. Guess I'll give it another shot then. Thanks! 🫡

[spiral spindle]

oh god eth , biggest scam in crypto like 90% of all eth controlled by whales taking the fees

thank goodness this game isnt on that shit chain are it would be dead

[craggy spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/stimmy-whatmoney-rich-stonecoldsteveaustin-moneybags-gif-20766215

[waxen raven]

Call me if you see my bot on the marketplace

[subtle kestrel]

Yeah yeah bye bye

[spiral spindle]

well everybody should know this is diffently a bot

[serene willow]

This is not a bot. It's a tumor.

[mystic mango]

Sorry. Under Pin Lock. The 'no pin lock' option. There's a similar option under screensaver that I thought would work but I was wrong

[waxen raven]

when the master shows the moon the apprentice looks at the finger

[serene willow]

And the wise looks to Saturn

[waxen raven]

even bots hate him

[craggy spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[primal aurora]

I don't understand why Star Atlas allow this bot here. Let's hope we don't have a bot fight like sometimes happens on ships hahahaha

[gloomy forum]

exist bots in ships too

[tardy flame]

just wondering, is it possible to wrap within labs a complex recipe into 1 before sending to solana? this way we can avoid incomplete deposit

[spiral spindle]

is sage still not working?

[serene willow]

That would help immensily

[proud shoal]

BOtS pROviDe LIquiDitY

[serene willow]

Nope. Just tried to craft something other than single ingredient, not going through.

But everything is fine

[gloomy forum]

in the ships maybe, in the resource market is cancer

[waxen raven]

You may explain this anyway you want some pople do not understand all they see is outbid, outbid, oh shit outbit

[late condor]

just buy spot

[serene willow]

Bots provide liquidity my ass, they scalpel the market

[spiral spindle]

theres no telling how much that bot i posted has made

[serene willow]

People mining and selling are providing liquidity. Bots are buying and reselling. It's the literal expression of the unnecessary middle man

[gloomy forum]

true

[waxen raven]

Seriously once there are no bots you will be shouting hey this guy or this guy should be wiped out, you have no limits

[serene willow]

If it wasn't profitable, they wouldn't exist. And if it's profitable, someone is paying for it.

Simple as that.

[proud shoal]

Yall didn't catch my sarcasm. 😂

But yeah, bots in these low volume markets are a plague to our prosperity. They suck capital out of the project.

[maiden swift]

What's the POLIS token for?

[obsidian acorn]

governance

[maiden swift]

Can the normal player use?

[waxen raven]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-nope-gif-26343150

[maiden swift]

Like, I'm a miner, can I use the token?

[west slate]

what the middle man does is speeds up the buying and selling process, you want to sell fast and buy fast bots on the other hand are flipping stuff so they help actual players get what they need and back in the game faster, however that works better when the economy is more robust ie we just need to wait for more game

[obsidian acorn]

Yes, right now you can only stake in DAO but in the future there will be lots more uses that will benefit in game

[civic forum]

whole day i have problems... awful

[maiden swift]

Ah, so I can change the SAC coins to DAO coins for the stake

[civic forum]

can not stop mining process for more than 10 hours today..

[waxen raven]

are you on solflare?

[maiden swift]

Pls, I have put the money inside and I cannot touch and wait till it fix 🥲

[spiral spindle]

what the middleman does (bot) is make all the profit and scam the rest of the market

[mystic mango]

Why?

[civic forum]

on phantom

[waxen raven]

Because solflare sends the minimum fees and your transactions are not validated when there is congestion of too much demand

[mystic mango]

Figured that. Easy way to change it?

[civic forum]

you think that the congestion is the problem? it is not because i can do other things in the sage labs and transactions are successful

[mystic mango]

Network is starting to unclench BTW

[waxen raven]

Can just say Phantom is better but the price to pay is awesome

[late condor]

Phantom got built-in priority fee stuff so it works a lot better

[west slate]

heavyer transactions are less likely to go through

[waxen raven]

Actually the network is not so bad, the fee sizing has to be adjusted

[west slate]

phantom is agressive about the fees (bad for gaming as the ideal is we need to adjust those ourselves)

however the reason its working has to do with the fees

[serene willow]

Even with phantom, crafting still not going

[west slate]

yeah crafting is one of the heavier things in labs

so its more likely to have issues

note thats the other part about being able to adjust fees

[spiral spindle]

crafting will be the king bottleneck in this game i believe

[civic forum]

i can not believe.. this game is glitching.. wont even process transactions.. the game is the problem not the whole network.. devs should resolve this..

[spiral spindle]

i wonder how much time and workers it will take to build an imp

[late condor]

the bottleneck is how much stuff you can get past the pirate lines

[spiral spindle]

i thought yall were mud?

[late condor]

ofc

[waxen raven]

Imagine you have a fukling bot on top of solana that says ok buddy you have 2 seconds to post anything you want trough that hole. And you are not sure to have another chance soon to do it again, like it is not regular. What will you do? take the transactions that give you the most money or the ones that shout me, me, meeeee ?

[west slate]

its unknown if we will be building the gao set of ships, going to be honest its more likely that we will be building alternate versions of those ships so that the gao versions stay as collectors items (as lets be realistic in a few years of ship building the gao ships will not be top of the line)

[west slate]

the network processes transactions the game reads the transactions

[waxen raven]

i would say that actually it is the opposite or a mix

[west slate]

umm no, starcom can in fact be bypassed, there are people who are playing using just the network

starcom helps make sure we don't do stupid things though

[waxen raven]

The game is made of programs ran by the network

[west slate]

the fact is the transactions must be processed by the network

[waxen raven]

what you call the game is a presentation of the state of the network at the time you watch it. You interact with the program to modify the state. And when you modify the state you pay fees for doing it

[west slate]

its trustless meaning atmta does not itself process anything ie the game / starcom just reads what happens on chain

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[reef hawk]

extremly anoying 12 hours , dont think it will get better soon either 😏

[pulsar moat]

I bought a tigu pet, can I see her in the showroom? Saw a tigu in a SA yt video

[stray marsh]

in a cinematic, they are not implemented yet

[round umbra]

Hello everyone

[uneven umbra]

Hey! Welcome to the server 🤝

[limber steeple]

sup fam!

[uneven umbra]

Sistine brooo

Hows your morning going?

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[umbral jacinth]

I cant craft!!!!!!

How long more should we wait?

[polar oar]

anyone recieved Atlas Brew badge yet?

[versed wagon]

Suuuup Sistine…Kamusta?!

[uneven umbra]

Hey! Not yet buddy

[uneven umbra]

Hopefully not much longer bro

[serene willow]

Seems like it's improving. Managed to craft eletromagnet now. RFR still not going through though

[umbral jacinth]

Thats exactly what I’ve been trying all day electromagnet

And failing miserably

[limber steeple]

summer is starting here in PH ... so it's getting hot in here! hahaha... how did Tuesday treat you? haha

[serene willow]

Everything was failing, except simple recipes

[limber steeple]

ok naman wik! haha ... thanks for asking fam. summer times here man

[umbral jacinth]

I still cant craft electromagnet 🙄

Did you use solflare or phantom?

[maiden swift]

I'll just do the easy trading and selling

I was thinking is there a delivery company in Star Atlas? 🤔

Like FedEx

[umbral jacinth]

Woww

I was finally able to start craft

Finally

Jesus

[serene willow]

Phantom

[umbral jacinth]

Exactly

[desert beacon]

Rfr?

[umbral jacinth]

No. The other components

[desert beacon]

Right on

[modest vault]

gonna have to just 24hr the crafts now

sad

[umbral jacinth]

Come on mate you’re the OG of craft

I’m not going to pay for your service anymore

Bad publicity

[desert beacon]

Molasses crafts over here

[valid yoke]

Same

I don't seem to have any issues tho either....

[versed wagon]

could you turn on atlas prime and pass the cost to the cutomer if they really need it on demand?

i havent tested atlas prime yet in these conditions, im afraid of ETH level fees 🤣

[patent iris]

Not my proudest moment, but when I was a kid and we tricked and treated, if someone wasn't at the house, I poured molasses on their window on a cold Halloween night

[maiden swift]

you're lucky that you didn't pour gasoline

[low loom]

I hoped they would fix this while I was at work...

[modest vault]

RFR still not possible

seems a couple lucky ppl got some through

or happened to have some lying around

ah

checked the 100k guy and he had his from couple days ago

wen RFR

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[west slate]

well the brew tomorrow is on starbased so hopefully they have an answer for this kind of problem

as if we can't craft rfr that means the transactions to craft the stuff and upgrade the starbase are going to be hard to push through

hmm I might need to hold off on the titan and put money into validators when I get that windfall

[late condor]

you're aware your titan is supposedly gone aren't you xD

or have you got anything major to confess to us.

[low loom]

Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

[late condor]

his superphoenix isn't available on the marketplace anymore.

you didn't know?

[low loom]

Nope. I hadn't been coming into chat and never looked.

[late condor]

well go look for the superhoenix and the t1

[low loom]

Yeah, they gone

[late condor]

[low loom]

That's a happy surprise.

[late condor]

Well it's not happy news for Jith.

[low loom]

Only for the survival of SA as a project 😛

[late condor]

we don't know why they're off the marketplace tho

[valid yoke]

I'm not convinced they sold lol

I feel like it's a hullabaloo