👽┃general

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-fathers-day-best-dad-awesome-i-love-you-gif-14322105

[mint crystal]

I've got one that'll start the day at 4am if they could and the other that'll happily sleep till noon.

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/love-you-my-boy-lion-king-simba-mufasa-gif-17474922

[atomic bramble]

Haha, all 3 of mine prefers early, so its chaos from dusk til dawn

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-nick-offerman-kids-annoyed-gif-3575780

[umbral jacinth]

Does anyone know how to reduce the amount of failing scan transactions?

Is sage working for you guys?

[rich steeple]

not sure if possible, because even if you use priority fees then the fee is higher than successful scan

[umbral jacinth]

Agree!

Well I guess they need to improve their system so that transactions can be processed faster and with success

But again this is tge same conversation we’ve been having for months already

[umbral jacinth]

Is sage working for you right now? Because ai can’t stop mining and I cant scan

[rich steeple]

according to the team they are working on this, so I guess we can only keep waiting. I already put my ships to SCORE because some days it's just unplayable

[uneven umbra]

Gmgm fam!

[uneven umbra]

The team is working on this case, we hope to have an update soon on this issue

[uneven umbra]

Correct!

[umbral jacinth]

Thanks! 🙏🏼

We need to be ready for this bull run also

Last thing we want is bad marketing about SA

We are all in this boat together

Is sage working right now for you?

[onyx furnace]

is working for me but i have to refresh for every tx,so im trying to stick with longer mines or longer hauls atm

was thinking about putting into score but will wait for an update for now

[umbral jacinth]

Oh gosh

Today that I schedule and orhanize my day only for scan

[uneven umbra]

100%

[uneven umbra]

Yes, but it does not run very smoothly, I go with a hard refresh often

[mellow sinew]

gm

[split solar]

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[hybrid quail]

Ahah

[reef hawk]

everything died again ??

[dark seal]

[humble cloud]

👋

[hollow bay]

gm

[split solar]

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[hollow bay]

thanks tigu

[limpid isle]

Gm

[languid bridge]

Hey guys, are there any events that rewarded players with a NFT or a trophies in the past?

Are they any level in game? What is the purpose of the 'Player profile" contract?

[tired sundial]

I want a JONI! 🙂 there's been some prizes like the JONI awards, maybe in the next COPA event

[tired sundial]

not yet, but there will be some kind of level, progress, etc... I guess the only thing used at the moment is the faction alignment

[wispy widget]

Sup

[lyric saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/what-meme-ardilla-funny-gif-17427020424106597657

gm santi

[civic marsh]

What’s cookin

[patent iris]

Do you think @desert beacon should re-brand to "Arbol"?

[warm tulip]

The photo contest competition as well

[patent iris]

I think we should have a "Trolling Contest"

SWAG would probably win... but I feel I've got a shot

[warm tulip]

I think we’ve got some good positive trolls in here, myself included

We all have our troll phase lol

[heady shell]

https://tenor.com/view/gm-star-atlas-gm-star-atlas-gif-24920945

[cold ridge]

hello. What is a mining drill used for?

[languid bridge]

Any link the the contract of event?

[umbral jacinth]

6 hours later the server still doesn’t work!

I can’t stop mining

I cant scan

[languid bridge]

So you use this contract to know the faction right?

[languid bridge]

Any link I can have to dig into it?

[umbral jacinth]

I can’t even put my ships on SCORE

[civic marsh]

[umbral jacinth]

Apparently… annoying

[shell glacier]

Cant undock 😄

[umbral jacinth]

6 hours of patience

Does anyone know what is going on?

We need updates

<@&830102056076312648>

@wispy widget

[viscid sleet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/930892611198275695/1005160581789139055/screaming-scream-santi.gif

[wispy widget]

yes absolutely

[wispy widget]

please don't tag admins. Tagging me or mods is more than enough to make us aware of any issues. Will check if this has been reported or if we need more details

[umbral jacinth]

We’re waiting for updates

[rancid carbon]

hi guys!

[warm tulip]

#1093912395132448949

[chilly torrent]

Sage a bit laggy but works for me, dont know why so many complains

And in general, today I wanted to call the anti-doping agency, everything worked unusually quick until recently

[umbral jacinth]

To me it’s absolutely 100% inoperational for more than 6 hours already.

[cedar compass]

Rebooting starcomm

[umbral jacinth]

Thanks

[stoic viper]

Speedy

[wispy widget]

lol

[cedar compass]

Should be up and running now

[split solar]

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[languid bridge]

Where can I find contracts on the marketplace? To solscan

[lime lichen]

Should be the last part of the URL is the token address

[languid bridge]

Oh thanks!

What is the difference between badges like superior and Captain for example?

[lime lichen]

there are different rarities. Their use case is kind of still up in the air from the team i think

[languid bridge]

It was randomly sent to those who played the rebirth event? Could we have a rare as well as a common one?

[lime lichen]

you can have as many as you want. Im not sure what the benefit would be to holding multiple different tiers of badge though

[wispy widget]

nono, it was sent based on what tier you achieved on the rebirth event

[languid bridge]

Ah ok so based on skill thanks

[hollow bay]

not really skill based

more capital if anything

[wispy widget]

nope, it was based on how many posters were collected. The rarer the posters collected, the higher the tier

[languid bridge]

Thanks guys

[amber whale]

help!! i got scammed

freinds

who do i asked for help?

my wallet got drained

[acoustic lark]

@cold ledge

[amber whale]

Sh!t

how do i track this down?

[buoyant panther]

the dog is cute though

[chilly torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pug-men-in-black-gif-8469646

[median token]

Hi, does a ship in SageLabs always spend fuel when it is not docked - even when it is idle?

[golden nest]

Nope

[frosty frost]

Back from 3 weeks of work, LOVINGGGGGGG this new capital freighter!!!! ❤️ - I know where my salary will go end of this month 🥹

[median token]

Thanks. And can I dock on every station (of my race)? Do you know?

[golden nest]

Correct, you can dock, unload, etc at all faction aligned stations. though you can only transfer to/from wallet at the faction CSS

[civic marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-gif-26201479

[wintry berry]

dude i have so many it’s insane

[median token]

So when I travel to a far away station I can't refuel there to be able to get back to CSS again?

[split solar]

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[golden nest]

You can store fuel for later use at any faction station, but you need to transport it there first. ex: load up your cargo space with fuel on the trip out and unload it at the destination starbase.

[median token]

Ah understood. Thank you very much! 🙂

[umbral jacinth]

For me it’s still not working

Sage is still not working to me

Am I the only one having issues?

[modest vault]

u can't track it down, it's gone if u were drained

[umbral jacinth]

Is sage working for you mate?

[modest vault]

let me try

[modest vault]

How did u get drained btw?

[wintry berry]

BARELY

[modest vault]

looks like was playing labs normally

then 7minutes later the drain happened

[umbral jacinth]

I can’t do literally anything for 9 hours

[wintry berry]

its a lot of restarting and clicking for me

its pretty bad today

[umbral jacinth]

At least if we had an announcement prior to these upcoming issues we would had put our ships on SCORE

[wintry berry]

its just like this sometimes

trying to put them in score would not have been wroth it

that takes a long time for me

rather just keep trying to power through labs

[umbral jacinth]

Yes but at least I would have made a few thousand Atlas better than nothing

[wintry berry]

again its working for me

just a lot of work

[umbral jacinth]

What’s your secret sauce?

[lime lichen]

Whats the teams current thinking on use for badges/licenses moving forward for SAGE and UE5?

[wintry berry]

not sure

frustration and hope

[umbral jacinth]

I can’t harvest for 9 hours already

😭

[wintry berry]

thats harsh

it just takes me a few mins to complete tasks that should take a few secs

but its working

[umbral jacinth]

To me it’s really not functional at all

[lime lichen]

Labs assistant works flawlessly

[umbral jacinth]

Do you click many times?

[wintry berry]

https://tenor.com/view/dear-sweet-baby-jesus-praying-sweet-jesus-baby-jesus-prayers-gif-17229699

ill pray for you

[umbral jacinth]

What do you mean?

[wintry berry]

are you getting paid to say that ??

[lime lichen]

I wish

[lime lichen]

Sly labs assistant for whatever reason works quite well when starcomm has issues

[lime lichen]

like the labs UI needs constant refresh etc. but not labs assistant you can just run it all day

and no issues

[umbral jacinth]

I never used it

Never really tried it

[lime lichen]

might be worth a look into for you

[umbral jacinth]

Do I need to install it?

[warm tulip]

Into your browser yes

I actually think BTh just made a video

[wintry berry]

def check it out

[thorny lagoon]

check the latest video from Beyond the horizon featuring Satoshi mama

[wintry berry]

sorry i assumed everyone thats been here has been uising it

[umbral jacinth]

It’s absolutely what I am seeing right now on youtube

Eheh thanks guys

Does it work better?

[wintry berry]

i couldn’t play without it

[warm tulip]

Yeah to the tune of $$$ per day

[umbral jacinth]

When was labs assistant released?

I dont know how I’ve never heard about this before

[rugged bridge]

Is play.staratlas.com down?

I cant conneth to my wallet

[cedar compass]

Which wallet?

Is your wallet missing?

[rugged bridge]

@cedar compassNo, when I press the button. Then nothing happens

I have tried to delete story and ctrl+f5 also

[cedar compass]

You’ve deleted the cache for the site?

[rugged bridge]

@cedar compass no sure.. I try

[cedar compass]

We’ve just updated this, tested a lot but of course can’t test every wallet and browser combination. Here to fix anything not working yet though!

[rugged bridge]

@cedar compass it was the cache ... thank you

[umbral jacinth]

Guys I’m not going to lie

I’m afraid to install that script from sly labs assistant

[thorny lagoon]

Well, did you watch the video that I recommended? It is normal to be afraid of the unknown.

[golden nest]

Well, if you get drained, you'll be in good company

There's a whole lot of us that'll join you

[thorny lagoon]

What is funny is that you might be able to set up extra layer of security with that lancer account stuff. I am yet to test the lancer account part of the script, I am using the regular lab assistant without it - so far it works really good.

I am still sleepy sorry, how am I boosting scammers by recommending you go watch a video?

[umbral jacinth]

sorry mate

not for you

[umbral jacinth]

your messages are boosting scammers confidence they will work harder now

[golden nest]

How so sir?

[umbral jacinth]

bad minset. a bit toxic tbh

[faint prairie]

whats wrong with sdu dear team? impossible to work. something happened for sure there s no annoncment tho.

[desert beacon]

They work harder every time they get a paycheck. Such lowlife scum behavior

[golden nest]

Whatever bro

[desert beacon]

What do you mean?

[faint prairie]

its %50 less than regular for days

server slow, more people scannıng i know but something more

[thorny lagoon]

Maybe someone moved to scan near you? Did you check the map to see the activity on the ships?

[faint prairie]

im full online bro

its not just me. u can see on flipside everybody has same isue

[umbral jacinth]

why did you edit your comment? stop manipulating

you come from bad to worse

[thorny lagoon]

I am scanning with only one fleet so it is hard to tell. If suddenly lots of players moved to labs and started using the lab assistant you will get fewer sdu for everyone. But that is just a speculation on my side, will be nice if I can look at some data to confirm that

like i don't know

the sud hit rate map from Eveeye

[faint prairie]

bro i m in rank 10

[golden nest]

leave it bro. not interested

[faint prairie]

i know how o scan something happened on sdu

[thorny lagoon]

ok, ok, but I am robot, I need data

I will monitor this

https://atlas.eveeye.com/?m=Galia Expanse&o=nodeout_blk,node_sov,sub_sector,sector_ws_scan,con_none,etag_none,tag_none,dark

[umbral jacinth]

if you are not interested don't reply. god bless you

[faint prairie]

even everyone hitrates dicreased

[thorny lagoon]

p.s. noticed that my single fleet is hitting the cap on sdus often than usual ( going home with something like 81 or 93 sdus is indication of that ) so I though that just more people are scanning. Or maybe someone find a more proficient way to do it and is outscanning everyone

[faint prairie]

no scan all crazy slow. my scan time should be 8hours but i cant empting my toolkit in 13hours

[thorny lagoon]

You scanning manually or using the script?

[faint prairie]

makro ofc

which i can 1/2 time as should be for double check and payıng 2x sol fee

stıll crazy bad

[thorny lagoon]

what kind of makro you are using, I personally have:

1. Recently testing the lab assistant
2. My own macro that has dinamic timings depending on the hit rate ( SikuliX custom script for my fleet )

also which wallet are you using ( it is important for the priority tx )

I am gonna try gather some data with my custom script as it does screenshot of the result every scan

[faint prairie]

soflare i use

[golden nest]

I wish you the same.

[faint prairie]

u are good wp. i tried to write codes for scan-hitrate color but i coudnt yet

[thorny lagoon]

ok, will test a bit tonight if I manage to find the time, my other script is not that automatic

[thorny lagoon]

I am still trying to make some kind of code for that too, but the plan is to use the lab assitant and give it the coordinates using Sikuli

need to up my game 😄

[faint prairie]

yes me and my friends stıll tryng to do it

[thorny lagoon]

I will share in dev chat if I make it to work, so far it is really inefficient because it uses a separate vm to work. And I cannot play Showroom if that is running on my pc 😄

[faint prairie]

in atlaseve dc or here

[thorny lagoon]

here: https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/1004095538544787547

but only if I make it work

😅

[serene willow]

Katir, you're not alone in this. Scanning results have been worse for over a week.

Can't pinpoint the reason, but I'd bet on a mix of many things: congestion, Starcomm being, well, Starcomm, RPC provider being shitty, and more people scanning.

I don't see it improving in the near future...

Roughly, 20% less.

[faint prairie]

today %40 less

[serene willow]

Hm today mine is actually a bit better than previous days here.

I was doing daily statistics, but gave up on that, because of the variable % in scanning. Doing it weekly has been giving more consistent data here.

Trying to reach a sweet spot to be self sufficient for RFR.

Still a long way to go, lol

Like, a LONG way

😭

[faint prairie]

flipside has that data i use it

[serene willow]

I mean, personal statistics.

[faint prairie]

its aep tool websıte i guess

yes u can see ur all personal actıon

[serene willow]

Oh, really? Hm...

Here I am manually doing shit... Lol

[faint prairie]

yes i dont want give link. just check their twitter

[serene willow]

I'll check it out, thanks

[split solar]

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Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[rich steeple]

yeah they stopped making announcements. Very bad communication, they still have not announced the crafting fee changes. Or patch notes for last 4-5 patches

dissapointing

[civic marsh]

Have a nice evening g

[uneven umbra]

Have a good one fren!

[buoyant panther]

you mean this one?

[uneven umbra]

We are trying to polish those aspects, but usually when patches are very small or quick fixes they are not announced

[rich steeple]

this is made by a turkish man using a calculator, this is not offical announcment by the team who is resoponsible for this game

[buoyant panther]

they didn't chnage anything. just updated the numbers

[faint prairie]

@opal rain

[rich steeple]

if it involves game changes then everything should be announced. Valve announces even 1 small pixel geometry gap fixes.

[rich steeple]

Changed numbers which generate profit for them, suspicous isn't it?

[wispy widget]

We only announce patch notes when there are significant patches and not minor improvements

[buoyant panther]

i mean it is not a secret info, you can literally see them in game

[wispy widget]

fee change was announced here: #🩹┃patch-notes message

[rich steeple]

not specified what was changed and by how much and the reasons and etc

[buoyant panther]

they calculated average price for the last 7days on everything and took 7% i guess. that's it

all the online calculators like eveeye were updated too

[turbid geode]

It is known what they rebase to. i.e. 7%

[rich steeple]

if it's previous 7 days then how come it needs adjusting?

[turbid geode]

Dude people have explained to you abou this but if you are going to grind it then go at it.

[rich steeple]

nobody explains why it needs adjusting it is already last 7 days 7%?

explain

[buoyant panther]

it doesn't update automatically i guess

need people to do it

[rich steeple]

well that's literally shit then. It is not last 7 days then

it was 37 days

or something

[buoyant panther]

i think they wait till price changes - then update craft fee

[rich steeple]

they need to do it every day then if they say it is 7% of last 7 days

[zinc flare]

hello, @hoary charm . i'm a seasoned developer. can we discuss about dev position?

[rich steeple]

consistency is off

[wispy widget]

10% was a bit high and the game was seeing lower volume based on it, so we lowered it to 7%

[buoyant panther]

if the price pretty much the same - there is nothing to update

[rich steeple]

but this was already done in december?

[buoyant panther]

😆

[hazy hedge]

It's a rebase

Bringing it back to 7%

From volatility

[rich steeple]

so this is done manually? if so then this needs to be done more often because having volatily fees while saying that it's 7% is kinda a lie

[turbid geode]

It is done manually when things get really out of whack. Otherwise the team does not touch it. There is no need.

[zinc flare]

hello, everyone, i'm a full-stack and blockchain developer.
is there anybody who are going a fantastic project and need a web developer?
if so, please feel free to contact me.

[desert beacon]

It is 7% and its volatile both stammers can be and are true

[rich steeple]

there is need if they say it's last 7 days and 7%

[hazy hedge]

It's a target of 7% and yes its manual. It would take a lot of engineering resources to have it automatic which we have on very important items like Starcomm/DAC Platform/SAGE

[uneven umbra]

Hey fam, try here #💻┃community-developers

[zinc flare]

thx

[turbid geode]

They did not say it wil be automatic 7%. It is a real economy and things fluctuate. In future the team may automate the percentage but it is not worth doing that right now due to development resources. It would be better if development time si spent making the game.

[rich steeple]

is it possible to read this information on how the systems work? that's why you need patch notes to explain this stuff and say that you aim for fees to be around 7% and etc..

[rich steeple]

things flucatet but 7% is a constant number. It is not met. I don't have flucating fees on exchanges.

[thorny lagoon]

the marketplace has some pretty consistent fees

the game is not a marketplace

I mean Sage Labs

[rich steeple]

it is, i change my 1 item for another item while paying a fee for it

[thorny lagoon]

it is manufacturing fee, not an exchange fee. At least from a lore point of view in game

[rich steeple]

lore has nothing to do with smart contracts

I have input of an item and output of another item and I pay Atlas for the exchange

[turbid geode]

I will try one more time. They rebase 7% of avergage price over 7 days. Then people use the game. Things go up and down. They do not change it for every minor change. The people are aware what the current craft fee is. Then there is a need to make a change. They give a heads-up as they did recently and then the changes are done. This DOES NOT require a patch note. It is not a game or system change.

[thorny lagoon]

if it is for an mmo game it should start making sence from a lore point of view, otherwise it is not a game but a financial tool which I would not enjoy playing

[rich steeple]

If it involves end-user then every change needs a detailed patch note, small or big.

[turbid geode]

Ok.

not necessarily but OK.

[rich steeple]

game is just an interface for the blockchain interactions. The fee I pay is not MMO fake money. It's an economic intstrument that is used while I transfer from 1 token to another token

[thorny lagoon]

I am all in for more detailed documentation. It would be good to have. I am starting having issues pointing my friends and community members to important info. Update of the support page would be nice with some info on the RFR and how the Atlas fees work on crafting. Wouldn't mind if we get patch notes in there too. I mean Discord is really nice but I personally don't consider it an official source of documentation

[rich steeple]

it's not some runescape GP, it's something that team sells to pay salary for themselves

[rich steeple]

Yes exactly, my point. Info is either scattered between hours long podcasts or hidden in the depths of these chat rooms. Least the team can do is document the damn changes

Doesn't seem much to ask but I guess the business side of this project is not that important for the team

[thorny lagoon]

Maybe we should consider starting a community driven wiki/kb article site. Example I have in mind is the League of Legends wiki

[turbid geode]

Dude you made your point that detailed patch notes must be provided. I agree to notice and patch notes but when there are choices to be made for valuable time I think that the team has made the right choices to where spend their time. That said you have your opinion and I have mine. It is all good. However I suggest that you learn a little more about the reasons and plans.

[rich steeple]

not a bad idea actually

[rich steeple]

How do I learn? They don't share their reasons and plans. I think they already confirmed that they won't even make a roadmap. Also typing the patch notes will take 5minutes of 1 person's time. The paragraph you just typed took the same time as putting together the change notes.

Go check other projects, you won't even needs to join discord or anything. Every patch is detailed on their homepage news sections.

And they are also Alphas, Betas, Closed Alphas/Betas etc

[dapper matrix]

hi I need some support regard scanning.... who can help?

[turbid geode]

My firend you are new and I understand. There is a lot to learn. I agree that there needs to be a lot of documentation. However we are in pre-Alpah stages. Things are beign developed and they keep changing. Any documentation will get stale very quickly. There is no easy solution for that. THe team has to balance that and I understand it. THer are times that I get frustrated also. As far as raodmap is concerend. You are misinformed. There was a roadmap. It needs a refresha dn it is in the works. If you had a chance to attend or wathc the brew it was stated that it will be released by March. It is ready but there is areason that they are publishing it for next few weeks.

[turbid geode]

Show me another project similar to SA that has done something similar.

[rich steeple]

I can't do it because other projects have patch notes 😦 therefor they are not similar

[turbid geode]

What do you need friend?

[turbid geode]

Wow Lol.

[thorny lagoon]

Hi, what issues do you have with scanning? Also don't trust any DM that you get from server - stick to general chat

[dapper matrix]

thank you ))

so my question is about the success rate of scanning

let's suppose I scan one sector for 24 hours.... what % of the scan will be successful?

if in 24 hours I can make 1000 scans... will I get 200 successful? Or the success rate is much lower?

[rich steeple]

and don't bullshit me with this pre-Alpha, game is out for years now. Also I don't have to listen to the brews, this is just some podcast not an official documentation.

[wispy widget]

Lol

What an argument

[turbid geode]

Ok my friend I am done. At this point you are arguing for the sake of arguing. Make your judgment whether this is a project for you or not. If this is not good enough you make your decision. Good Luck

In any case you made me post more that I usually do. lol

[rich steeple]

an appropriate one for the question he asked

[wispy widget]

He asked a fair question.

[rich steeple]

yes SA is Solanas top project and everything but that's no excuse to justify bad documentation and lazy corporate communicate

[turbid geode]

We need someone like Bryan to be talking to this guy. I do not know how to respond to him. I am too polite.

[wispy widget]

Nobody’s justifying anything. In fact we are telling you that we want to improve on all areas, just that it’s a very early stage

[rich steeple]

You don't need to talk to me at all

[golden nest]

Info here may help to answer your question: https://atlas(dot)eveeye.com/

[wispy widget]

Should be whitelisted

[turbid geode]

I do not but you keep replying to stuff I did not ping you. It seems like you need seeking attention.

[dapper matrix]

I have checked that already but my question is different. Those data imply you move around to get the higher %. While I'm asking if I stick to a single sector for 24 hours what happens on average

[golden nest]

Ok, thanks. Don't want to get on the bad side of Tigu

[thorny lagoon]

The success rate of sectors is dynamically changing. Usually the best success rates are found towards the middle of the map. There are also other things to consider:

1. What is the cooldown of your scanning fleet
2. Once you find an sdu ( successful scan hit ) the % chance of the sector that you are scanning goes to 0 and regenerates to its highest possible % chance over 2 min
3. Are there other fleets scanning on your location
4. There is a hard cap for maximum SDUs found on the map in a minute - if it is hit the whole map goes on 1 min cooldown. If that cap is hit and you continue scanning during the 1 min cooldown you won't find any SDUs
5. There is a small chance that you make a "Critical hit" and find more SDUs from a single scan ( varying between 2x and 10x your usual SDU finds)

So currently a bit hard to calculate a guaranteed return rate on the SDUs scan considering all the variables.

I strongly suggest checking out the Eveeye Map with SDUs scan chances. Once you leave it run for a while it will populate with what other fleets are finding and you have the option to right click on a specific sector/tile and check the hit rates and successes of other players: https://atlas.eveeye.com/?m=Galia Expanse&o=nodeout_blk,node_sov,sub_sector,sector_ws_scan_p,con_none,etag_none,tag_none,dark

[golden nest]

Excellent summary

[wispy widget]

Did u create this text yourself friend?

[dapper matrix]

cool that is a lot of info..... the basic SDU finds is 4?

[thorny lagoon]

second time I was asked this question 😄

[wispy widget]

That’s cause it’s good!

[golden nest]

Pretty neat, huh? This guy is good!

[wispy widget]

Yes he is

Accurate

[turbid geode]

That is very difficult to answer because it will be different for different people, time, location and who is scanning at the same location. You need to calculate it yourself. However I can tell you that even your rate will change daily slightly. You should just try running and then record teh number for you fleets as a general reference.

[dapper matrix]

I see.... and does it change if my fleet is composed of 1 or 2 ships? to I double the odds (and the cost) if I have two ships with the same cooldown?

[thorny lagoon]

thanks man, I have recently started writing these down so I can keep them as templates and not type them every time

[wispy widget]

Super helpful brother!!

[rich steeple]

Well some guys in this chat just try to shut down anyone who has any criticism. All my questions have been valid and all I get back is some bullshit from the fan boys. Saying that I need to listne to brew and try to make me look stupid that I don't understand how the fees are calculated and etc. I realized that nobody here knew how crafting fees are calculated and how much from the crafting fees to go team and etc.

[turbid geode]

Rule of thumb: you fleet has max Scan rate of 10 SDU no matter how many ships you have in the fleet. Ideally you have 10 xxs in the fleet to get 10 SDU on success. xs gives you 2, small gives 3 and so on.

[wispy widget]

I don’t think anyone is trying to shut you down, just giving you their opinions. You should also think about the tone in which you bring things up, since you’ll receive answers in a similar one 🙂

Shoot the questions you have, can be bullet points. We go check them with the team and come back w the answers. Does that sound good?

[desert beacon]

To be honest the fees were known. You just have to dyor

[wispy widget]

About the brew. We had an event literally with the team members running the Economics department, since all your questions seem to be related to the economy it’d have probably been helpful for you to join and ask directly, that’s why they are telling you that @rich steeple

[dapper matrix]

ok so then if I use a small ship only, once I get a success I should take 3 SDU or more depending by the critical shot.

[turbid geode]

IF you are using small ship: each ship gives 3. Hence the goal for the fleet is to get to 10. This means if you have 3 small you can get 9 SDU if you have 4 small you will get 10. Hence the 4th ship is wasteful. In such case create a fleet of 3 small ships and 1 xxs. This will give you 10 SDU per successful scan.

[west slate]

pre alpha is a state of development, this is a massive project to hit its full vision, showroom has 0 econ loops yet so you can't even truly count that and sage labs (very limited rules set) is by definition a pre alpha test environment

[dapper matrix]

I am just wondering about the Data Runner ship.... the Opod has 13k Cargo and no toolkit costs with a cooldown of 33seconds. In principle, I could make 100 scans per hour, meaning 2400 scans a day. If I get 4 SDU per successful scan and consider a 30% success rate, I could earn 2800 SDU a day. Meaning the cargo will be full in about 5 days.... does it make sense?

[turbid geode]

yes that is a good strategy for Opod. You do not have toolkit cost. Better yet put 2 Opods. You will get 8 per scan.

[thorny lagoon]

Basic SDU found depends on your fleet configuration. Each ship has size, for example xxSmall ships are size 1, xSmall size 2, Samll size 3 and so on.

The maximum base SDU find is 10 so players tend to optimize their scanning fleets for that reason. For example here are a few configurations for a scanning fleet that are optimized based on max SDU base find:

1. 10x of xxSmall ships fleet ( each xxSmall is 10 size so that gives you 10 base sdu find ). I go with Unibombas but, any xxSamll will do just best to be the same kind of ship to have consistent SDU cooldown scan
2. 8x xxSmall ( let say Pierce x4 ) and 1x xSmall ( lets say Calico Maxhog ) - so 8x xxSamll is size 8 + 1x xSmall is size 2 for a total of 10 base sdu find. This fleet is usually used to have more cargo for toolkits and scan for longer time.
3. Some interesting setups might be 2x Rayfam 1x Opod

[turbid geode]

For my Opods I have added 2 small to maximize the results even though it will cost me toolkits. I did try Opods alone but I find this a better fit for me because I do not have hundreds of Opods.

[dapper matrix]

two opod is ideal but costl. I was thinking One opod and six xxs with a scan cost of 7 toolkit which means 42 toolkit costs per scan session

[thorny lagoon]

yes it makes sense, can give you a quote on the exact numbers, but if you set up a base station near the midde of the map that you can supply with fuel for the Opod and run the script to scan around you should get a nice chance to find toolkits

[turbid geode]

Good Combo

[rich steeple]

Sure, that would've been good to take part of. But apart from the brews there are little to no information to be found or it's outdated. You all guys been in here for long time but for new players it's kinda difficult to get on track. Current player base is mostly people who want to make money here, that's a fact.

My suggestion is to improve the communication part as much as possible. Quickest way to learn about games current state is by going through patch notes. Every change is important and even if you manually need to update the fees then all such information should be found somewhere

[wintry berry]

you gotta relax and dyor

[turbid geode]

Or think about using Unibomba. it has best toolkit cost

[wintry berry]

there’s a ton going on and things change regularly

no one is going to sit here and explain everything for hours

thus dyor

[dapper matrix]

yes that what I meant with a cost of 7

[rich steeple]

dyor? based on what? there is no offical statements about changes

[thorny lagoon]

I tried a rayfam and 7x unibombas for a while, it was good but maybe I wait till i can afford the 2x Rayfam + 1x Opod to go full ape on the scanning game.

[wispy widget]

Yep I understand your points. User onboarding is one the key areas that need to be improved for sure

[dapper matrix]

that's a great suggestion.... I just don't have much time to fly around

[dapper matrix]

that's ideal for the moment...

[wintry berry]

fees change all the time and im pretty sure there was but idc i just play its hard to keep up with everything and getting mad is pointless

[serene willow]

I ran those numbers with 25%, including some room for failure, and arrived at something like 10 days to fill it up.

In reality, it will probably take more, considering downtimes, congestion, RPC failure, Starcomm crap, etc...

I'd guess something like 2-3 weeks to fill it up.

[dapper matrix]

what happens if you put a rayfam with unibomba? When toolkits are finished in the cargo, do you still scan with the rayfam or the entire fleet is on hold?

[west slate]

what changes are you talking about

[dapper matrix]

great real life data... thanks for the estimation

[rich steeple]

crafting fees

[thorny lagoon]

Well, a lot of players have started using automation for the sanning and the mining. Check out this video for more info on the tool in question:
#📺┃content-creators message

It also has some info on which brews you can look up for the presentation of the tool made by Groove

[dapper matrix]

yes I heard about but not yet dig into....will do thanks

[serene willow]

Personal opinion: bad strategy, because even though it improves the outcome, it increases the cooldown considerably. OPOD's good feature is the 33s cooldown.

[west slate]

they said they updated those recently, why is something massivly wrong with them like econ breaking

[rich steeple]

no mentions about what changed

[west slate]

note I am not crafting right now

[west slate]

the fees changed, the only way you would know if its crazy is if you try to craft

[turbid geode]

ooh I did not calculate that. However isnt the success cooldown is 2 min?

[wispy widget]

One more time, here is what changed lol #🩹┃patch-notes message

Next time we will make sure we post it right when it goes live as well

[serene willow]

If you're aiming for optimization, don't. Because the OPOD alone will allow the fleet to stay there without moving back to resupply. And also cooldown times.

[serene willow]

Not the success, but the failure. 🤣
For real, it makes a huge difference

[west slate]

the fee was changed to 7% happy

[rich steeple]

Yes it says fees will change and that is all. 0 details when patch went live

[rich steeple]

it was already 7%

[dapper matrix]

I just can't afford now the cool opod 😄 maybe the Rayfam...that's why I was thinking to add some xxs

[turbid geode]

You may have more experience and done the right calculations. What in your opinion the best Scanner ships fleet and what are two best non-scanner based fleet combos?

[wispy widget]

I acknowledged that fact and told you we will share live next time

What else could I possibly do to make you feel better my friend

[thorny lagoon]

it is not a cooldown anymore, when you hit the %chance goes to 0 and slowly regenerates over 2 min. Before that it was 2 min no sdu, but that is like from before months or so

[west slate]

then what exactly is the problem

as santi said they will try to update that faster

[serene willow]

Another personal opinion: OPOD and Rayfam are a HORRIBLE investment. You can get much better outcomes with XS + XXS fleets, even with the toolkit costs. 😉

[serene willow]

Maxhogs + X4 are the real scanning meta. Considering all ship stats + ships market prices. 😉

[turbid geode]

No the Muds do not let us talk at all.

[dapper matrix]

but the advantage of those dataminer is that you don't have to be present to go to refill toolkits....what would be the combination that would allow the least refill of toolkit?

[west slate]

how they can sit out for a long time, no back and forth

[thorny lagoon]

I did test my friend miner ships for scanning - super low toolkit costs, huge cargo space. I am sticking with my Unibomba fleet for now - somehow lower cost on the toolkits, best sdu cooldown scan, moderate costs on the fuel for warping.

[golden nest]

The fleet will use Opod cooldown rate vs. slower rates of other ships?

[tepid kiln]

hi everyone, somebody can remember me where is the race (on the ground) vs IA menu? I'm trying to click randomly 😂 I forgot totally

[west slate]

also the other aspect with data runners is future utility

[rich steeple]

No man we're cool. See what I said before people trying to shut down others with valid but criticizing questions. @west slate has no idea how the crafting fees work but still he is trying to defend the team of his favorite game. And that is ok, I understand this but for some reason trying to explain myself to him again

[serene willow]

I know, that's what I meant. 33s cooldown indefinitely, and keep scanning. Much better than mix it with XXS and bump that cooldown up. You'd be basically wasting your OPOD's potential.

[thorny lagoon]

nah, it is using the worst cooldown timer

[serene willow]

If you're using a script, any XXS config will beat OPOD's, easily

[serene willow]

Nope. That's why you don't mix. It uses the slowest cooldown.

[golden nest]

I agree. Chance of a successful scan is the same for an opod vs. and airbike. I run opods and am constantly getting hosed by 10x airbike fleets, lol

[west slate]

I know how the crafting fees work, I'm just not actively crafting so if things go nuts over a change I would not know, my question was did you notice a major change in the fee structure as I would not have

[thorny lagoon]

you need to enable experimental mode, then press play and use the "E" button to scroll to the right

[serene willow]

Unibombas are the best XXS for scanning, except for the ship's price. You can get almost 2 X4 with the same $. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[tepid kiln]

ok and select ...?

[serene willow]

Wtf are you trying to spew? Lol

[west slate]

the fact is your whining about so much that I had no clue what your actual question was, perhaps don't be an arse and actually talk to people

[uneven umbra]

lol, the other user joking with game lore

[dapper matrix]

how difficult is it to use the script? And is it dangerous in term of wallet safety?

[uneven umbra]

You have freedom of speech here

https://tenor.com/view/bb22-big-brother22-bbian-ian-terry-bb22ian-gif-18122906

[serene willow]

Very easy. I won't comment on safety, because, well, I'm no security specialist. Fair to say, so far, no reports of problems.

[turbid geode]

Sorry bro, I was being facetious
. What is your main concern?

[thorny lagoon]

they removed the option to click to it with the mouse last patch, so you need to use "E" and "Q" to navigate. If you need to AI shooter with ships it is the Track B: Combat vs bots. The third person shooter is TPS bot battle arena

[uneven umbra]

Yeah, he said that the MUDs (human species in the game) would not let them talk, it is a joke with lore

[dapper matrix]

I would love to try... can you direct me to a video guide or whatever could help me to setup?

[uneven umbra]

Hmmm depends check the rules bro #✍┃rules

[tepid kiln]

thank you

[serene willow]

Hmmm I don't know about any videos, but I remember someone posted one. It's probably on the link section, or the content creators one.

[turbid geode]

Check #✍┃rules

[uneven umbra]

As long as "everything" is nothing crazy, yes

But yeah, check rules

lmao

[dapper matrix]

ok will check thanks!

[west slate]

please stop with the slander, I asked what the issue was after your acting all hostile, if you want respect talk with respect

[serene willow]

Total freedom doesn't exist, because it tramples over other people's own freedoms. So, yeah, get over it, grow up, and say what you want, and deal with whatever consequences. 😉

[west slate]

I'm not cesnoring his speach

[rich steeple]

It's not about if I noticed the fees change. It's more about how things are handled. Changing fees is economical therefor should be noted down and shared with end-users in deep detail. We're paying fees that go the team, it's our right to know what exactly changes and it's teams responsibility to share what is our right to know.

Also for the past 4-5 patches there have been no patch notes. I want to know which bugs were fixed and etc..

[golden nest]

I made a similar statement earlier and was told I was toxic and helping scammers. But I use script to automate as well. Checked it as best I could and found no red flags.

[turbid geode]

Today is a crazy day. All are welcome.

[uneven umbra]

Hahaha

[uneven umbra]

Too many conversations at the same time 😆

[serene willow]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

[west slate]

they told us they were changing the fees, they were a little late on telling us what changed by like what a day at most

[turbid geode]

I chose a good day with time available lol

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/idiot-lafuddyduddy-rules-follow-the-rules-penguin-gif-16685859

[thorny lagoon]

Going to play some degen Nida top ranked, have fun in chat guys and relax a little

[serene willow]

How this chat feels now... 🙃

[uneven umbra]

About the rules?

[west slate]

if we need info about a change that is not listed I do help poke the team

[golden nest]

The way #👽┃general should be!

[west slate]

feels like deadend is back over a minor thing

[uneven umbra]

Have fun bro!

[west slate]

as the fees have been what maxed at around 10%

[serene willow]

Ok, serious question: wasn't the fee already 7%? What in fact changed then? (I'm actually trying to understand it)

[turbid geode]

Ok. I would not mind that this guy can exercise his right of freedom of speech elsewhere.

[uneven umbra]

lmaooo 😂

u bored bro?

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hawkeye-no-please-no-no-sad-gif-16886381

[west slate]

I think they played with the algorithm is all

[rich steeple]

Not sure I understand. I can't find any detailed info anywhere that says anything about the fees. Only pre-announcment but this has 0 details. And still patch notes for the last 4-5 versions are nowhere to be found.

[west slate]

ie the fees are on a floating average on the price of the goods

[turbid geode]

The craft fee is 7%. However it is based on 7 day average of the price in the market that fluctuates. hence it got a little out of whack and the econ team did rebase.

[west slate]

if you go back through old patch notes its explained

[serene willow]

Ohhhh it wasn't auto-pegged???

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/can-lafuddyduddyp2-icantell-tell-lafuddyduddy-gif-20841508

[west slate]

note this is all very early

[serene willow]

Ok, makes sense now. So they were just applying the proper fee?

[west slate]

so the economy is getting a lot of adjustments

[turbid geode]

No it is doen manually peroidically when needed.

[rich steeple]

NO, team explained it here in this chat. They change manually the fees. So they lied about it being 7% trailing for the past 7 days

[serene willow]

Ok, so... Yeah. Simple answer here

[umbral jacinth]

Sage still not working

[west slate]

well it is auto pegged but its about the average price over time etc so that needs to be monitored to remove massive data discrepances due to voltility

[serene willow]

I think lying is a harsh word. More like, they didn't enforce the pegging.

[turbid geode]

No it was space suit for me. I am an asteroid miner.

[umbral jacinth]

It’s been 12 hours since I put my fleet mining and I can’t harvest it!

[serene willow]

It doesn't finish mining?

[rich steeple]

Okay they mislead us by letting us think it's pegged

[umbral jacinth]

What should I do?

[umbral jacinth]

No

[turbid geode]

Say whatever you want until they do. You will then know what not to say.

[serene willow]

A few things: refresh, clear history, different browser, different connection (try routing data from your phone), try v1, v2 or 3D.

To me, usually a combination of these fixes issues.

[umbral jacinth]

I’ve done almost all of that

[turbid geode]

Freedom of speech in action.

[umbral jacinth]

I’ll try everything

🙏🏼

[rich steeple]

not auto pegged, and that is exactly my point. People have no idea what is going on because team is not posting offical changes and notes

[uneven umbra]

Because of the failed tx? There is no quick fix at the moment, I give it hard refresh until it comes in and if it doesn't work I'll try again later

[serene willow]

Yeah, ans the Earth is flat, ISS isn't there, all are GoPro images, and (insert more crap here). Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

[umbral jacinth]

I’ve been trying all day for 12 hours

[serene willow]

Oh, another one: try using Phantom. It pays higher fees, and works better when it's congested.

[west slate]

its not pegged to the current price its pegged to an average over time as it should be

[serene willow]

Aaaaaaand he's gone.

[rich steeple]

Oh so that's what a guy needed to write to get banned 😄

[serene willow]

Phew, thanks.

[west slate]

the idea is that cost of stuff should be overall stable

[umbral jacinth]

I tried both versions. I tried using vpn. I clear the cache and cookies, I tried phantom and solflare, I tried on my iphone and laptop

I dont know

Am I missing something g something?

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/no-me-olvides-despedida-me-marcho-me-voy-adios-gif-12159746

[rich steeple]

No, Santi literally said that it is not pegged or automatic and team needs to manually change numbers

[serene willow]

Trying to think of more possible solutions

[rich steeple]

Again, that's why we need patch notes for every change

[uneven umbra]

@umbral jacinth Yes, with Phantom more tx goes through than with solflare, but as our friend says, you have to pay a higher fee

[turbid geode]

Oh no what did he say to get banned. I got distracted due to a phone call?!

[umbral jacinth]

Yeah I know. Tks

[rich steeple]

something about hurting children

[serene willow]

On this, I agree 💯. Team needs to communicate more clearly. Even if after the changes (to prevent manipulation). But still, it's nice to feel we're being told everything. Also, good to feel respected, considering we're literally backing this project up.

[turbid geode]

oof that is bad one.

[west slate]

there was market volatility, so yeah they had to go in and change it as they are working out the systems ie pre alpha the idea is that its still pegged to an average - how they actually manage that is ofc not always stated - this is not that big a deal

[uneven umbra]

Joking about children being raped 💀

[serene willow]

Something about bankers, forced sexual activity, and some worse crap (PLEASE don't ban me!)

[west slate]

note the change was a bit more substantial overall this time due to atlas usd value dropping due to market conditions

[uneven umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/nmplol-emiru-cyr-banned-gif-26412698

[serene willow]

Pleaaaaaase

[turbid geode]

@umbral jacinth Sorry to see you having trouble for many days. Is it only in Sage or you cannot use Score, MP, Lockers, etc.?

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[rich steeple]

nothing to do with usd value

[serene willow]

Oh, another one: try turning Atlas Prime on, and trying to exit mining.

[serene willow]

100% to do with Atlas/USD ratio, because that fluctuation causes a lot of marketplace volatility. More sensed on SDU, but everything else also feels it.

[west slate]

ok, so the fact that the change was noticeable enough to have them tell us even though that its still pegged at 7% is due to the fact that the market took a hit in the past week

so yes it does have to do with the usd value

note they recently changed the price in atlas on all the dev listings as well

[rich steeple]

yes, exatcly dev listings

they have usd value, r9/r4 don't

RFR stayed 2 Atlas

[west slate]

yes, however the price in atlas on everything else changed with the market changes

even though its not directly pegged to usd its how markets work

[rich steeple]

Only food changed, other items have had very low impact since the market pull back

food price changed because of RFR requirements changed

other items have changed over the period of 1 month

[west slate]

yes exactly they are still working out the econ levers

so therefore things are not exactly seprate yet

[rich steeple]

so they cannot say that it's 7 days trailing

it's not pegged

they just forgot to change the fees for long time

because it's manual

[west slate]

yes because of the holdiay break etc

[serene willow]

Atlas prices fluctuate a LOT based on USD value of Atlas.

RFR stayed 2 Atlas because it would absolutely wreck emission rates to change it. Just check how Score emissions didn't follow Atlas devalue over 2 years.

It is what it is. Can't fight macro (at least not yet, maybe someday...)

[west slate]

the fact is atlas stayed stable for the most part during the break untill the past week where they had to update everything

[rich steeple]

yeah but Atlas price of resources have not fluctuated that much, so what I was saying is that USD price has no big effect on resource price in Atlas

[west slate]

also 7 day trailing means that if the market is stable there are no real changes overall even with manual adjustments

[serene willow]

My point is: communication sucked. Bad. They should definitely listen and improve that, because several people pointed it out.
Now, economy is still a very early work in progress, and there's no way to set things on stone yet. Get used to changes, announced or not, and drastic or not.
If you're expecting a smooth ride, with no bumps and adjustments, well... You won't get it.

[west slate]

yeah, they should have just stated that they were readjusting it to reflect the 7% that its supposed to be

[serene willow]

Indeed

Even if after the change happened.

[west slate]

but they took a little longer to do that then they should have, its not that big a deal

[mellow sinew]

gm

[serene willow]

I'm a LOT more concerned with performance issues than economy, to be fair.

[rich steeple]

Yup correct. I have no expectations. It all just started with a simple question: Where are the patch notes 😄

[west slate]

the point is you could have been railing about anything and I was not going to scroll up past a ton of drivel to find out what the actual issue was

[serene willow]

Economy is doing great. Now, performance... It sucks to not be able to craft RFR sometimes for days

The whole "incomplete deposit" thing is horrible.

And if it was only occasional, I wouldn't even bring it up. But it's not. It's every single time I try.

[west slate]

yeah, the team is working on that - I noticed that they are back to telling us to use phantom while they fix it

[rich steeple]

At least that's 1 thing I am a bit more confident because somebody shared a picture where someone from the team actually explained it in 4 points

but again no proper communication

somebody just shared a picture of 4 point improvement

@cold ledge you have that pciture

[west slate]

the issue is they need to fix the bc code to reflect the network changes with priority fees

[rich steeple]

there was a lot more going on

[serene willow]

Hm, curious about that

[west slate]

the catch is this code is still being optimized to begin with

plus starcom issues etc

[rich steeple]

they were going to rewrite in Rust and also do indexing and etc, indexing was supposed to make actions around 150ms

[serene willow]

Now, honestly... Relying on priority fees is horrible. A temporary solution? Fine. But if important things aren't going through, it means the whole idea behind it needs a rehaul.

[west slate]

yeah that takes time to complete though

we just need to chill till they get it done is all

[turbid geode]

They implemented the new wallet logic in Lockers. It worked well.

[west slate]

oh I need to check that

[turbid geode]

Can finally lock Polis

[rich steeple]

and while we chill we need to see progress in the patch notes 😉

[serene willow]

Which I know needs lots of coding and work, so I understand it takes time. Just... Communication, again. A simple newsletter, maybe, on what's being addressed, would calm pretty much all chatter about most problems.

Perception is key.

[west slate]

and again I was not saying they don't need to tell us more about that - I did not even know what you were talking about ie why I asked

[west slate]

to be fair swag got up and told us about starcom in the town hall

[serene willow]

Written newsletter. Takes 5 minutes to prepare. Saves them hours of back and forth.

Create a new channel: Stuff being done

Just stick it there

[west slate]

people are still going to just hop on discord and ask

[serene willow]

Anytime someone starts ranting (myself included, 🙃🙈), link the newest post there. Done. Easy.

[rich steeple]

yeah exactly, somebody before told me go ping devs about my questions 😄 they have more important things to do other than answer same questions all over again

[serene willow]

This is basic PR.

Very very basic. And it's lacking.

[turbid geode]

It is very easy to say than getting it done. The issue is rapid change. lack of people with the right skill and time. Eventually they will add the right staff for it.

[rich steeple]

yup, but I think they don't have any PR managers

[serene willow]

And I say this very constructively. We're still very small. Once shit gets boiling with new players, if things are happening like they're now, it will be a daily mayhem.

[west slate]

they had to cut staff due to ftx bs

[rich steeple]

still... need to cover basic needs

PR is important, maybe even one of the most important things for a business

[turbid geode]

My friend people will ask for details. Details are not basic. It takes time and effort. That is the issue.

[serene willow]

I have to strongly disagree, respectfully. Each hour spent here would save lots of hours on other stuff.

Like, even get a mod to volunteer on it. A weekly quick update. Or even create a 5 min section on brew, updating what's being worked on, and a mod writes it down. There. Done.

[turbid geode]

That is why they are not spending hours here. It is just us folks debating each other. Lol

[serene willow]

Trust me, it goes up the chain.

[west slate]

the catch is guilds etc already do compliations of information its all there in text if you look for it

[turbid geode]

There are folks here who have created their own posts copy and paste scripts for the people that show up here and ask questions.

[west slate]

but yeah the starcom rewrite should be on the roadmap or some such

as thats a rather big thing

[serene willow]

They do compilations on whatever subjects. I'm talking about a simple update on what was the week's focus.

[west slate]

especially as starcom is interacted with on a dialy basis

[serene willow]

A very very simple board.

This week's progress:

• improved Starcomm performance.

• repegged fees to 7%.

• launched Sledgebarge

• (...)

There, did it.

See? It really takes 5 minutes.

[turbid geode]

One of the issue with documentation is that once you post it people will reference it. Even if it gets outdated which happens quickly in an early stage project.

[rich steeple]

yup

no it cannot be outdated

[serene willow]

Don't document predictions. Document achievements.

[rich steeple]

history is history

well past is kinda outdated but still there is reference point into the past

[serene willow]

It baffles me they're still not doing it. It's easy PR, easy to improve sentiment, just to aee what's being done. Basic psychology.

[west slate]

yes however most of the actual detailed documentation is mostly out of date

[turbid geode]

Acheivements are not docuemntation. What do you mean repegged fees to 7%. what fee. what was you logic. How dare you cahrge fee. All other project do nto charge fee...... on and on.

[west slate]

it serves as an ok refrence point if your otherwise able to keep up

but its mostly useless for new people coming in

[serene willow]

Xap, you got my point, I just listed whatever... Lol

[turbid geode]

That said not supporting that they do not document and report to the community. I am just saying that I understand that they are lacking in that department.

[serene willow]

I see what you mean, though. Still, the benefit far outweighs the potential questioning

[rich steeple]

an example: If I go to patch notes and search for "crafting fee" I can see how crafting fees have changed overtime. Especially useful for returning players

so it's not outdated

[west slate]

this still was a simple we need to poke the team to get them to tell us what they did, once they respond thats that

[turbid geode]

I agree. I did my share of tech startups. I have seen this story repeated almost in all cases. That is why I may have become more understanding. It is good to hear strong opinions. It makes the project better and stronger.

[serene willow]

Thing is, a good example on why it's important: this is several months old (Labs). And newcomers could arrive here not knowing shit about crap.
Having a small board, they could check it, and see how much we've progressed (cause we did, even though sometimes it feels not)

[rich steeple]

somebody actually suggested to create community wiki, which is also not a very bad idea but it's hard to put down stuff there if it is not offically confirmed by the team

[turbid geode]

I have been asking for a roadmap update for months. Only now we were told that we may get in a few weeks. I am not happy but I understand.

[west slate]

a wiki though would help with stuff like the starcom / priority fee talk as it would provide an article that can just link everything in 1 place

[rich steeple]

yes and explain how the crafting fees actually work 😄

because now I know, after the long battle here 😄

[turbid geode]

There was a comunity built wiki I think and it got stale pretty quickly.

[rich steeple]

it should have useful things like API-s n shit so that people would come to check some calculators and what not

[serene willow]

I myself, am VERY vocal at times (more than I should, actually, I'm working on that myself, lol!). But I am because I really care about this whole thing. I'm not going anywhere, but creating a nurturing and receptive environment is absolutely KEY to retain newcomers.
Community is absolutely pristine on this, I have never seen newcomers being treated poorly. But I can't say the same about the project itself.

It's solid to have something to show for (as far as a board of achievements/progress/goals).

[turbid geode]

They do have stuff like that. Unfortunately spread and lost all over the place. You will not hear an argument from me against a tool to link and consolidate everything.

I have pages and pages of spreadsheet, screen shots and notes.

[west slate]

done too early and while we were still weeding out people that were not in it for the long haul

[serene willow]

Oh boy, oh boy... 🙃🙈

[rich steeple]

Lol same here, I've realized I'm vocal about things I care. If I don't care then usually idgaf 😄

[serene willow]

Still, doesn't mean I should be that much. 🤣

[turbid geode]

Yep. We are still too early. That was about 2 years ago.

We had nothing at this time

[serene willow]

Alright, good people. Time to work on dinner. No idea what I'm cooking... 🤷🏻‍♂️

[turbid geode]

Except posters

[lost fiber]

hey all, what's the difference betwenn Tool Kit 1 and Tool Kit 2

[turbid geode]

Recipie

[serene willow]

None, just the recipe.

Do 1, 2 is more expensive

[turbid geode]

I only do 1

[tall lava]

https://medium.com/star-atlas/star-atlas-community-week-a-galactic-celebration-cd0634b6c3fc

[lost fiber]

Yeah I was trying to figure out why anyone would ever craft Toolkit 2

[turbid geode]

Steel will be too useful once Starboard comes out I suspect

[west slate]

honestly at this point there is enough to have a few articles, perhaps not quite a wiki yet though

[serene willow]

Well, I did a bunch of 2 when Maxhog recipe got updated, and I was stuck with a good load of steel. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[west slate]

like something talking about ue5, starcom and labs would be perhaps a few articles on each

but not enough to be a true wiki

[last socket]

what are Joni awards?

[turbid geode]

Oooh announcement

[serene willow]

It might make sense later. Let's say carbon prices are much lower than Iron. 1 x iron + 2 x carbon might, someday, be cheaper than 2 x iron. Who knows...

[modest vault]

non-event

[hazy hedge]

Star Atlas community awards.

[modest vault]

[serene willow]

Do we have a "most annoying member"? I might run against gabbs

[hazy hedge]

LOL

Nah he wins biggest scammer

[serene willow]

🙈

[lost fiber]

Good point. Thanks man. Have I missed any big news announcements as far as new game releases (beyond the stress test, shooter game)?

[serene willow]

Polis pumping already???? 🤣

[serene willow]

Not really. Unless you have $15k (ish) to buy the new freighter. Pretty good, but oooof, lol

Let's see if the Gods bless me, gonna try some RFRs

[lost fiber]

nah man lol I love this game but TBH even the small size ships are unrealsitclly priced. I have a Pearce F4, Vzus Ambwe, and a Pearce x5

[hazy hedge]

You just have to remember that these ships have earning potential. That's why they're more pricey than traditional game assets.

[rich steeple]

also in UE5 game you can use 1 vehicle at the time. In the future buying a 10$ airbike to play the game is actually not that bad, considering this a game purchase which you can then sell at any time you want.

[pearl surge]

bro

somenoe knows how to see a undocked fleet

[serene willow]

Hmmm elaborate better?

[rich steeple]

there is button on right side of the screen

[serene willow]

You don't know where it is?

[pearl surge]

Okey but how i know which one is mine

[rich steeple]

there should be button

I dont have any fleets currently

[serene willow]

Button on the right side shows all your fleets

[west slate]

not the toggle there is another button that shows your fleets

[pearl surge]

Show overview?

[serene willow]

It's a yellow pointy arrow pointing to the "Northeast"

Nope

[rich steeple]

are you sure you have any active fleets?

[pearl surge]

I undocked one 5 mins ago

[red fiber]

Does anyone here know the slightest bit about computers?

If yeah, how can this happen

[pearl surge]

ok

i saw that button a few minutes ago but i dont see it now

i clicked on undock and after that i didnt know where the fleet went

[west slate]

try refreshing or resizing the window

also if you just undocked the fleet would still be at the starbase

[serene willow]

Maybe you clicked disband instead of undock? Just an idea

[pearl surge]

Ok i will try

[serene willow]

And yeah, undocking keeps it at the same base it was.

[lost fiber]

Awesome reminder

[west slate]

also if the feet got disbanded the ships should show up in that same starbase when you go to craft/form new fleet

[lost fiber]

Hell yeah! Is this already out or is there an estimated release?

[rich steeple]

it's in demo mode

[west slate]

q2 for the ue5 without the code

[west slate]

right now you need a code

[serene willow]

Looks like a refreshing issue

[west slate]

refresh/clear cache or wait a few min if nothing shows up #ticket

[plain acorn]

About the announcement just made why does the link that is there with it say its in February?

[serene willow]

Cause as it shows, you don't have a fleet

[pearl surge]

Okay

but how i clear cache?

[west slate]

thats browser specific

[pearl surge]

chrome

[west slate]

go to history

[plain acorn]

Why does it say February is it wrong or is the announcement wrong?

[serene willow]

Clear history, all time.

[raven tulip]

New quest in Never Alone

[west slate]

feb is next month

[plain acorn]

Yes that’s why I’m asking

The announcement says it starts tomorrow

[west slate]

no the anouncement says its next month

[plain acorn]

[rich steeple]

"Stay tuned tomorrow for the start of Joni Awards nominations and COPA DAC submissions!"

nominations and submissions start tomorrow

[plain acorn]

My bad

[west slate]

yes nominations and voting need to happen early

[plain acorn]

Thank you

[rich steeple]

but event itself is february

[languid pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-top-gun-deal-with-it-cool-af-gif-22268997

[lost fiber]

Thank you @west slate is that the same as the showroom code? Can you point me somewhere that describes the game?

[west slate]

yes the code is for the showroom

[signal imp]

Will be any optimalization of game, to guys with worse hardward?

[west slate]

dono, they may try to optimize it a bit more for v2 as thats I think slated for q2

but for those running older systems odds are your better off with sage

and no I don't recomend buying a system for the ue5 game yet unless your otherwise looking to upgrade

[lost fiber]

This i a good point. By the time a more permanet versions is released your MB, CPU or GPU might be outdated

[west slate]

even v2.2 is just racing minigame mostly for the econ aspects its still just a test environment that we can play around in more

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[slow nimbus]

I got a Pearce R8 today

it was $1750 yesterday and it was gone

had to pay $2350

[unborn crypt]

hey guys how can i buy with trustwallet?

[thorny lagoon]

did you try putting an order instead of buying directly?

[slow nimbus]

I don't have patience for that

maybe order won't get filled

JUP airdrop is coming on the 29th and manlets will all be rich

ships will sell out

[unborn crypt]

is there a way to buy polis with trust wallet?

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[low loom]

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[unborn crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-25768139

pls help

[thorny lagoon]

I sure hope they do, had to buy my scud for 200$ and the gap if I need to sell it is huge. Also it is not yet sure if team is planning on selling more ships. For example the Scud and the Niruch were only obtainable trough special events but maybe they are released on the primary market and their value drops.

[low loom]

I'm only seeing a way to send and receive it on Trust Wallet.. not buy.

[slow nimbus]

think team will slowly increase supply of new ships when more players come online

keep the economy going

I just need space refuel and salvage to come online thoon

and the fighting and stuff to come online

should be fun

[thorny lagoon]

yep, I am more focused on the racing part right now, don't have enough resources to participate in the combat or at least this is what my calculations are telling me

will sit on my claim stakes in CSS for start

at least that is the plan I have while I learn to pilot my ships in Showroom

[slow nimbus]

when a new feature starts like scanning and mining the scanning and mining ships sell for higher price

once space refuel is ready the pearce R8 price should pump

[thorny lagoon]

for sure

[slow nimbus]

I can take my small fighters far out there

[west slate]

the catch is whales will still need us to help with supply chains and what not, the actual number of players that have insane amount of assets are rather small

however that still requires a decent amount of ships (note I upgraded to having a large ship as my biggest over labs)

[late condor]

am I a whale if I made it into top 100 wallets?

[lost fiber]

I successfully used Showroom when it initially released. When I try and install from the Epic store the download button says "coming soon" Am I doing something wrong.

[west slate]

I think yes, but then again not exactly sure ie whale would be a technicality does not mean your going to be able to compete with the top 100

[late condor]

I wanna be a whale

[west slate]

you need to go from your library and be on the same account that you used the code for

[thorny lagoon]

Yeah, I have 1x of each xxSmall and xSmall ship, one Unibobas scan fleet and 1x Tufa. I go vroom vroom on the track. Whales will need someone to actually pilot their ships when we have actuall battles in 3d so I am going for the long run training. I am also not neglecting the DogFight arena in UE5.

[west slate]

ok yeah I would say your not going to have much to do in starbased outside of sec zone or the more secure med risk areas

[thorny lagoon]

check under Library - the game should be available there to download

[west slate]

as thats mostly scanning / bot patrol type level

[slow nimbus]

I need to download showroom to see my ships?

[west slate]

no they are on chain you can see them on the website

and in your wallet

[slow nimbus]

I don't want to see 2D, how can I walk around the ship and fly them?

[west slate]

then yes

[slow nimbus]

it is safe the download? my wallet will be safu?

[west slate]

if your on a ledger its safe (well as safe as any other dapp

[thorny lagoon]

You can see the 3d models in Unreal engine. The latest fix allows you to see the ships that you have in labs in Showroom too.

Also, there is pre-alpha that you can use to see your ships in 3d in labs: https://sage.staratlas.com/
You can actually use the labs v1 or v2 interface to play and look at them go in the 3d Sage. Keep in mind that most of the actions work in Sage 3d, but it is still early work in progress so best to stick to V1 and V2 for actual gameplay until it is polished

[west slate]

otherwise you can create a new wallet

and send the ships there temporarily

as if your using a hot wallet you would need to enter the seed phrase

they made a ue5 wallet for showroom - it works like any other hot wallet just with ue5 as the platform ie phantom for ue5

[thorny lagoon]

Read here, currently it is best practice to use temp wallets and stuff for showroom as @west slate adviced:
https://support.staratlas.com/how-do-i-connect-my-existing-wallet-to-retrieve-all-my-ships

I use my real one but as I mentioned above my assets in game are small and I am well aware of the risks when I connect my main wallet to Showroom

[west slate]

yeah I am using a ledger so I don't need to worry about any of that

[slow nimbus]

hard to use ledger to play sage labs

[west slate]

the catch is if your making a new wallet write down the seed phrase and import it to phantom/solflare etc first before sending ships to it

[slow nimbus]

lol

[west slate]

security is worth the trouble

technically for me all my crypto assets are corp assets so they should be as secure as I can make them

[slow nimbus]

yeah, I put most of my crypto on ledger

but when it comes to games and NFTs I don't

[thorny lagoon]

Did you manage to test lancer accounts yet, or you just sitting in faction fleet? I am just gathering some statistics on current gameplay and if the community is using all the stuff

[west slate]

I'm playing labs but I am not spamming the scan button

[thorny lagoon]

Yeah, I was wondering if anyone tested lancer accounts with main wallet with ledger and wallet with script for labs. I am about to do some testing but I don't have ledger myself - still not decided if I actually need one at this point considering my current assets and progress in game

[west slate]

they are not that expensive

effectively 100usd worth of assets is more then a ledger

[thorny lagoon]

I am on a half-year hiatus from work so I am currently optimizing my spending on stuff 😉

[west slate]

the catch is there are people that spammed scan in the first week of labs and earned enough to buy a few ledgers with only a small number of ships

so I would assume the same would happen early days in racing / starbased

[thorny lagoon]

Well deserved I think, these are the people that pumped the sol transactions for Star Atlas and brought attention to it. At least that is how I heard about the game when I was making some crypto research. I did make some profit in labs without spamming too much to buy a ledger but the Scud was a priority investment. Probably ledger is the next thing I buy if they don't release the new racing ships before that 😄

will do some testing with the lancer accounts when I get my hands on one for sure

[west slate]

remember the team is going to release a profile system, the current option is more add hoc

but its decent from what I hear

[fluid pivot]

great

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, this is the profile system that I am talking about - it was already implemented in Labs Assistant. It is not official yet, but the code is there and it is already working in the community projects

[west slate]

yeah, its not worth it for me to mess with it

[thorny lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dangerously-gif-20939086

yeah, what can I say:

[west slate]

my situation is complex

I pulled stuff with crypto that I would never recommend others even attempt to do

[thorny lagoon]

Yeah, best to wait for official player profiles by the team, I am just trying to test as much as possible since my main trade is quality assurance/testing. Most of the community made scripts are not suitable for end-users yet but they help me learn alot about sol network and the game in general. Maybe play with it on a burner account with a few xxSmall to see how it feels.

[west slate]

I mean for me the big aspect would be having things between computers without needing to have the ledger hooked up at all

the catch is thats not in the specs for that at all as it still requires a hardware wallet to connect to the game itself

ie it creates a software bridge between the ledger and the game that is only for that 1 session

[thorny lagoon]

Yeah, that is why I was asking if anyone tested this with ledger as the main wallet and solflare/phantom as the lancer wallet:

probably need to ask Bryan

[west slate]

I am sure they tested it themselves too

when they say it works I do trust them

[thorny lagoon]

yep, getting ledger next thing I do

[west slate]

bodhi mentioned something about some sol fees being trapped in the intermediary wallet

but without the ability to test that myself not sure how it works

well I mean i have the ability to test it myself but I have not done so

[thorny lagoon]

Yeah, I think I know what he is talking about - it is the token fee for creating the ship account for the player profile. I think there is still no way to refund it upon disbanding the fleet. But it is there on chain so when team implements the player profile we should get a way to reclaim those I guess

[west slate]

the catch is in theory you should be able to still connect via the ledger directly

unless it requires creating a whole new game account to use it with

I have not read the docs on it

their other tool by definition requires a separate wallet unless your only running a few fleets and your using the correct wallet set up already

[thorny lagoon]

Well you can, just need to approve every transaction manually which is not what I am looking forward to dealing with. What I want is:

1. Secure my main assets with ledger so it is not possible to withdraw them from Sage without approving this with ledger wallet.
2. Make the scrip run the mining and the scanning with a Solflare wallet that does not have access to withdraw the ships from the game

I think this is how it works, I just don't have the ledger to test it with

but i am already sold, I will get one asap

[west slate]

the catch of being able to connect directly with the ledger is if your doing something that has a larger amount of sol tied to it you do it directly with the ledger and when your just running your set up you swap to the hot wallet

note that only works if its running on the same game account as the ledger does directly

I would need to read the docs on it to know

[thorny lagoon]

noted, thanks for the info @west slate I am gonna do some reading too on the docs

[west slate]

the catch is in theory you would be able to go in and change the auth settings for sol to send whatever is trapped on the hot wallet back out

the other thing is releasing how to do that would also say how to steal someones ships in theory

as how that functions would be via authentication triggers set up in the wallet

[next sigil]

Kinda weird that's even a thing

[west slate]

labs would not work without all that as is

part of what makes on chain gaming viable on sol is the authentication structure in the wallets/token accounts

[dense sigil]

is the marketplace down? i cant seem to buy anything

[thorny lagoon]

just sold some SDUs so it works for me. Maybe do a hard refresh CTRL + F5 and try again. It does hang up from time to time but it usually fixes itself after a waiting a bit and refreshing

[dense sigil]

oh okay thanks, btw where u got ure roles?

[thorny lagoon]

most of them from here:

there are some special ones like "10" that you will need to do some stuff to get

[dense sigil]

wow cool thanks,, @thorny lagoon

[thorny lagoon]

btw if you are new in the chat - don't trust any DMs that you may get. A lot of impostors trying to offer fake support and even impersonating mods and other users on the server. Be very cautious - if you need anything just stick to the general chats.

[dense sigil]

actually im not new here, im on and off , ive been here since 2022,,

[thorny lagoon]

nice, did you try out the new stuff in Showroom yet?

[dense sigil]

not yet,, just came back and getting the hang of things,, rn im doing the faction fleets,, haha thats how i encountered the marketplace thingy

[thorny lagoon]

if you already have ships staked more than a week in faction fleet you should be able to get the code for showroom from your profile - if not the mods can always give you one. The third person shooter with the bots is coming out pretty well

[west slate]

my greenader crashed the game when I tried to fly it, looked cool though

could have been a clipping issue with the ground

[heady adder]

Nub question here. Can we transfer our ships from exploration and mining to the flying "test" game?

[west slate]

yes, the catch is that showroom can't read what is in labs

so it needs to be in the wallet or in faction fleet

note as of v2.2 they would need to be functionally seprate for econ reasons so them fixing that is not exactly going to happen

[thorny lagoon]

it can now

after latest realease

[heady adder]

Do we use same wallet address for the two or better to keep separate and transfer?

[west slate]

oh they fixed that

[thorny lagoon]

yup

[west slate]

wow i have not been paying attention

but then again eventualy it would have to

as they share the same map

[thorny lagoon]

once we have econ loop in showroom it should be removed, but now it is good as we can test our ships there

[west slate]

ie v2.2 would need to have separation because we should not be able to use our crew/ships in racing while they are in labs doing stuff but as the game is in the same map that would ideally be handled via localization code so they would need to make localization work in showroom eventually

this is an example of non linear development

[thorny lagoon]

Best practive is to have separate wallet for testing showroom - there are ships on free rotation there so there is always something that you can test with.

If you want to test with a specific ship that you have then you will need to have it in the wallet/labs/faction fleet that is connected to showroom

but for shooting with bots you don't need it

[heady adder]

What do we call/what version are epic game vs mining/exploring game?

[west slate]

showroom is what we call the ue5 game, labs/sage is the browser

[thorny lagoon]

Epic game version we call Showroom for now.
Web based strategy is Sage Labs
Faction fleet/Faction claims are also known as SCORE

[lost fiber]

any reccomendations for the best SDU scanning ships?

[west slate]

showroom may be called racing when v2.2 is out but thats months out

[late condor]

rayfam and opod obviously

[late condor]

y months

[lost fiber]

Any small X-small xx-small reccomendations?

[late condor]

small: opal rayfam

I'm not sure if the other ones actually are too different from one another

but I don't scan so idk

[thorny lagoon]

10x of xxSmall of any should do. Opal Jets and Airbikes most budget onces. Unibobas bit pricey but best scan cooldown and lowest toolkit usage. X4s best cargo capacity for longer scanning ops

[west slate]

they made it clear that its q2 during breakpoint

[late condor]

so that's 9 weeks :3

so for real that's end of year

[lost fiber]

super helpful thank you!

[west slate]

beginning q2 is in 9 weeks, q2 is 3 months

so months

[late condor]

will we be cool enough by the time the bull hits?

[west slate]

the only thing they need out soon ish is starbased unless they do another big thing for labs

[west slate]

I'm not expecting the halving to be that good of a bull this run

the real bull will not start till next year due to the bs election cycle

[heady adder]

Does anyone use xbox wireless game controller for pc with epic flying game?

[late condor]

you told me once how us elections correlate with cycles but I forgot

[west slate]

elections tend to mess up economic forecasts as nobody knows what kind of crazy the usa will be the following year, plus the incumbent does stuff to mess with things to make themselves look better right now that is a massive wild card for crypto as biden is not exactly one for sane econ policy there

[late condor]

so it's like a congestion

[west slate]

however regardless of who wins things after the election will look better (assuming its biden v trump nether would have a second term after)

[late condor]

but when it's over then the money floods in

[west slate]

yep as people know who to bribe and how to invest

yes in that order

[late condor]

2028 will be an exciting election

first woman perhaps? :3

or maybe

you? xD

[west slate]

as long as its not hillary

nope I'm unelectable right now

4 years from now well dono too many loose ends

[late condor]

jith blade coup d'etat

"I tried the legal way, fuckers"

[west slate]

I mean the end result of what I want is to Nuremberg the usa

[late condor]

Nuremberg.

[west slate]

fixed it

so it would be legal via international law

[late condor]

as long as there's a netflix show about it

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[west slate]

nah more likely it will be off of that crypto social media platform I want to make

[golden nest]

Why would someone send 5 fleets to the same sector to scan for SDU? Seems an inefficient use of resources.

[thorny lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[golden nest]

Maybe you can do the math for me. How much do multiple scanning fleets reduce success probability from the overall sector probability?

[thorny lagoon]

Depends on how you scan. If you configure them to scan consecutively until they hit and then all wait 2 min after hitting an sdu you would probably outscan anyone else trying to get a scan in this sector

[golden nest]

Is it as simple as each additional fleet reduces probability by half?

[thorny lagoon]

nope

depends on how you do it

u dont reduce until u hit

[west slate]

yes but you can send to empty squares now

[golden nest]

Right, but if everyone is scanning at max rate on auto fire?

[west slate]

as you can see who else is there

[thorny lagoon]

you configure the script to wait 1 min if you see an sdu hit that is not devisable by 10

[west slate]

the only logical reason would be to try to hit a square that has a high rate

[thorny lagoon]

I am just speculating, I havent acutally managed to made a script that is this sophisticated

but it is possible to do

[golden nest]

Yes

[golden nest]

Right, I can do that successfully on manual, but that gets old fast

[thorny lagoon]

yeah, did some pretty nice hunting on manual, but it does get boring after a while

[golden nest]

So I'm watching this sector that was at 60%. 8 fleets swarmed in, 5 with the same owners. Most scans are returning >10% chance

[thorny lagoon]

Well, I did not say they are doing it efficiently, I am just saying it can be done and automated properly provided that you have the necessary skills. I have the imagination and the logic but lack the skills at the moment.

[golden nest]

Yeah. I'm with you on that front.

[west slate]

also depends on how many fleets they have

[reef hawk]

Evening

[west slate]

if its a whale with mutliple accounts scanning via automation 5 per sector is whatever

like I could see yaawn doing that with airbikes

[golden nest]

Right. I thought about that. You're probably spot on

[west slate]

as if you have enough fleets you can theoretically get 100% of the sdus per minuite regardless

[golden nest]

But would a whale mess with 10x airbike fleets?

[west slate]

yaawn is an airbike whale for example

[golden nest]

Ahha I knew it was him!

[modest vault]

https://tenor.com/view/step-brothers-what-is-this-will-ferrell-whats-happening-confused-gif-13872085

[west slate]

and also scanning is better with xxs ships at that level

[modest vault]

none of my XXS are scanning

[west slate]

not saying its yaawn doing it just saying yaawn could do it

[modest vault]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-gif-13232766

[west slate]

going to assume there are others

[modest vault]

scanning sucks

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-i-said-it-whats-happenin-gif-11563120

[golden nest]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-man-gif-23343928

[golden nest]

On manual and focusing on high probability sectors I had a 40% success rate/scan. On auto I am down around 15% but I'm scanning at a far higher rate. On manual I was pulling in 1000-1200 sdu/fleet/day. On auto I'm closer to 800.

Correction: 800-1000/day on auto