👽┃general

[cold ledge]

i see a viking whale

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-evil-laugh-cackles-star-wars-gif-16520972

[cold ledge]

hehehe

[elfin tundra]

How much you invested in $PURI?

or whats the token named

[cold ledge]

half is in the raydium pool and i sent 2 guys a mill each

i was thinking if i should swap some bonk to puri

i only had 8

like the discord drop

[neon hull]

First is from inventory, second is from deposit/withdraw ships

[cold ledge]

can you check in these https://v1.labs.staratlas.com/
https://sage.staratlas.com/ maybe the fleet is still there and the disbanding txn did not went trough

[elfin tundra]

i see you like risky trades 😛

[cold ledge]

i just like the idea of the token, support sa projects

a lot went to charity as well

so i wont complain

it was a nice present

[versed summit]

@cold ledge where can I find current info on ship staking

[cold ledge]

still the old one you have to deduct 33% atlas earnings, i hope someone shares a new sheet soon https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sqFnrgOB6r3NKnYN4dw-fPaRaHkGU8-7SM7z28OaMn0/edit#gid=918754841

[neon hull]

Works now. Had to export the airbike from the inventory and deposit again and now it works :). TNX!

[cold ledge]

interesting, thx for the report

[elfin tundra]

i think PURI can be decent investment. Not sure about BONK 😛

i traded ton of BONK first 3 days when it started. It was fun!

[cold ledge]

both arent investments to me, i got both dropped

[versed summit]

THanks. I would remain as independent rebel for now 😃

[cold ledge]

what you playing atm

[elfin tundra]

Ahhh luckyyy,

[cold ledge]

i started some starfield

[elfin tundra]

i bought it. But played only 5 min xD

[late condor]

I hear it's bad

:[

[elfin tundra]

atm i'm playing Warthunder, Read Or Not, Cities Skylines 2, Cod, Valheim (with guild)

[cold ledge]

well its pretty deep in crafting and base building, and the npc are unmatched by any game

a lot of flaws are there

but still a good game

[quaint mica]

How is skylines 2?

I played everything from Sim city all the way to skylines.

[cold ledge]

skylines would be my pick out of these as well

[lyric saddle]

gm

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/trex-america-4th-of-july-fireworks-intense-gif-12117558

is that a cat idk

[lyric saddle]

its one of those dinosaur suits xD

[elfin tundra]

launch was terrible. But each update getting better and better! Easy to lose hours in game 😛

[split solar]

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[brisk charm]

GM Fam

[granite rose]

Morning buddy

[frosty cosmos]

Whats diferent between $atlas and $polis?

[cold ledge]

atlas the in game economy token, polis the governance token learn more here https://staratlas.com/economics-paper.pdf

[frosty cosmos]

What is the seed and private sale price?

[cold ledge]

cant even remember best ask in #📊┃economics vesting is over for some time now

someone told me there was floodings somewhere, have not watched local news for weeks 🙂

where are you?

or is that a secret?

[warm tulip]

gm

[old swan]

biceps dox?

[cold ledge]

who is that skinny feller?

[tall lava]

GM lads, remember to exercise, end of year celebrations destroys the body

[cold ledge]

yeah i send you my crew when its time

i just use finger muscles in discord

[tall lava]

Exactly, that’s why I am training earlier today hahaha

[old swan]

hidden brag: car & gameover soon

[cold ledge]

i see to far

if you get to berlin hit me up

[tall lava]

I need to get ready for brew 100

[cold ledge]

i think it could be my birthday that day

[tall lava]

No way

HAHA

[cold ledge]

not sure im not good at counting

[tall lava]

that would be awesome actually

[wet shore]

lol that you? Damn bro you yoked

I’m getting back into it too. Hard with little kids lol

[tall lava]

It is friend! But we need to take care of our body, otherwise we won’t be the ones to enjoy our POLIS haha

[wet shore]

Ah nice. Yes very true zesk

[verbal flower]

Is anyone working on the issue claiming POLIS rewards? Is it the same "Failed to Claim" issue for everyone?

[cold ledge]

https://app.step.finance/en/dashboard use this for now

we have to wait till the 8th for the team to come back

step works fine

for the dao site you have to retry like 5-10 times

[weary parcel]

Goodmorning

[thorny lagoon]

Lol. I just found out how to do a slide for the shooter and the double tap shift boost with the ships. I am having a blast 🔥 🚀

Anyone figured out how the different components for the ships work? I think I found some issues with the Rainbow shields not regenerating over time and some of the lasers look like shooting from the wrong direction. Still not able to figure out if changing the subwarp drive actually changes the acceleration and the speed.

Oh yeah, and the granades do not work with the redhaired immortal waifu skin, but really nice that I can change the skins from inventory while in game

[vagrant socket]

o traje do homi 😎

quando eu chegar nesse shape eu paro

tô só a costela de adão

[split solar]

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[rugged bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/animated-text-flashing-flashy-happynewyear-gif-2751601316068132651

1.st

😂 🤣

[cold ledge]

yes you early, i hope you saved some fireworks for 12pm

[hearty scarab]

Any recommendations on what ship to buy?

[cold ledge]

puh thats a huge topic, not that easy, mostly depends on your budget and what you like to do in game now and later on

this here helps for sage investigation https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfzW3uiqkbnfJexBysh0MAzZYRhiRwQg8WlsFWfuKgs/edit#gid=205337066

and this here is nice to find discounts https://aephia.com/star-atlas-ships/

[near mist]

hello everyone

[civic marsh]

😁

[patent iris]

Your calves tell me...

That Noot skipping leg day was FAKE NEWS!

[elfin tundra]

@cold ledge what you playing these days

[cold ledge]

as said i play starfield at the moment

[elfin tundra]

hmm... should i give it a try? 😛

[cold ledge]

if thats finished idk, still want to dive into baldurs gate

[elfin tundra]

i have it too

balduers gate 3

[cold ledge]

well you liked fallout 4 and skyrim?

[elfin tundra]

havent played it

too young 😛

my first game was fortnite

[cold ledge]

holy shit dont make me feel old again

[elfin tundra]

just kidding 😄

my first game was GTA San Andreas

cocaine, killing cops, f hookers

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

[wet shore]

anyone know if this is a scam?

[elfin tundra]

if you didnt pay for it

then 100% scam

[wet shore]

yeah

[elfin tundra]

nothing is free

[wet shore]

not true.

[elfin tundra]

ok. some airdrops

but you know for these

[wet shore]

Got airdropped bonk,Pyth and jup soon

yeah

wasent sure if this was anyything

[elfin tundra]

but you could check official website for eligiblitiy

I need to play some games 😦

empire at war, republic mod?

1v1?

ups. wrong person. i menat you @wet shore

[cold ledge]

you heard about lethal company?

maybe a cool game for coop

[elfin tundra]

dont. know will check

but best game atm. Ready Or not

100%

and its hard as f

i am at one mission for 4 days already

[stiff shore]

I cannot be alone in this. My ATLAS rewards for staking ships has just halved. WTF?

[elfin tundra]

😦

[cold ledge]

sort of payday style?

[elfin tundra]

SCORE emmisions decreased

[tall lava]

HAHA fake news indeed!

[elfin tundra]

you cop

Like SWAT 4

if you played

but much better of course

[cold ledge]

#🩹┃patch-notes message https://www.youtube.com/live/zHY_NyK9kCk?si=r1_pCo5V_1FqAPCY

[elfin tundra]

SWAT 4

ready or not

[cold ledge]

check lethal company its just 10 bucks if you can convince @atomic bramble im down

[elfin tundra]

my king. time to buy new game @atomic bramble

[stiff shore]

Shit! This means we need to play to earn now? Thats the objective obviously.

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-really-surprised-this-happened-will-jackson-wentworth-didnt-you-expect-this-to-happen-isnt-this-all-your-plan-gif-23010020

Time to play!!! 😄

[cold ledge]

yes sir, labs is the way to go

[stiff shore]

Ok. Thanks

[elfin tundra]

he didnt thank me 😦

thanks @elfin tundra

[patent iris]

Your arms are THICCC... I see snakes for veins...

[tall lava]

Thank you friend, making me feel happy even though the holidays destroyed my performance.

[warm tulip]

Wait I wanna see

[warm tulip]

This is not new?

[patent iris]

You're NOT ready

[warm tulip]

I need to get back in the gym

Holiday + perpetual kid sickness has thrown me off

[cold ledge]

i wonder who wins a 1v1 you or dom

[stiff shore]

IDK. My rewards just went down this/last week?!

[patent iris]

Noot might have the biggest guns in SA.

[patent iris]

We need tape measurements to verify @tall lava

[storm crystal]

Currently Hellomoon doesn't execute any tx ... every tx results in:

I have hundreds of these messages.

[serene willow]

Hellomoon is a joke...

But unfortunately the only joke we have available that runs this service, apparently

[cold ledge]

how are you today?

[serene willow]

Hey vb

[stuck sonnet]

I’m having trouble claiming rewards from polis locker. Everything else works great. Polis locker hasn’t worked for the last 3 days I’ve tried. Anyone else having this issue?

[cold ledge]

you use solflare?

[serene willow]

How was your holiday? Hopefully filled with joy and good food

[storm crystal]

I get this on Phantom and Solflare.

[cold ledge]

well so lala, nothing special hehe and yours?

[cold ledge]

i see so its not that priority fee thing

[serene willow]

Kinda the same, but good food for sure. Me and the wife like cooking, so... 🤤

[storm crystal]

Yep, I always double-check it with the other wallet before posting it here 🙂

[cold ledge]

yeah it will probably get lost if i see sammy or xeanor i will try to show them

on the other hand they probably know the issues

[serene willow]

Same happening here, vb.

Trying to, among other things, craft some RFR for the past 30 min, repeatedly getting incomplete deposit errors

[storm crystal]

It is always good when the devs play their own game 😁 Hopefully it can be fixed in the next hours.

[cold ledge]

i doubt it, they in holidays atm we will struggle till 8th

[serene willow]

Hasn't been fully bad, though. It was much better earlier today

[warm tulip]

I think the 21st was the effective date yes

[cold ledge]

yeah im not sure someone might restarting starcomm from time to time or its automated, that might help, most issues are temporary

[warm tulip]

Lol what are we doing, Fortnite?

[cold ledge]

cage fight like the real zuckerberg musk type of fight

[near elk]

Same here

[modest vault]

how many RFR

[cold ledge]

whats your advise on this, certain amounts work better?

[modest vault]

no

I've just been providing the liquidity to ppl

if they send me all the mats

[cold ledge]

i see

[modest vault]

but it's only worth the time if it's a lot

[serene willow]

10k. I'm a simple man... 🤣

[near elk]

Sounds great offer 😅

[serene willow]

It's ok, I'll try again later. It's not a lack of crew, just a lack of Honeymoon

But thanks, Yaawn

Not even hydrocarbon is going through. Completely dead now

[tired wasp]

Seems crafting dont work )) - incomplete deposit
who else see this?

[patent iris]

Starcomm is pukey today

[tired wasp]

Ok thanks - then chill 🎄

[drowsy spade]

i scanned the empty void seems 😂

[shrewd thorn]

seems that crafting of hydrocarbon doesn't work... remains in "incomplete" and doesn't start

[cold ledge]

yeah a lot of errors at the moment

[shrewd thorn]

seems that the transaction doesn't have the craft fee

[shrewd thorn]

ah ok... so I wait... because I already tried 2 times

[cold ledge]

probably best yes

[late pollen]

Does anyone know what this incomplete deposit error means? Can't craft anything anymore

[warm tulip]

Hmmm idk how much does Dom weigh and do I get weapons?

[split solar]

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[cold ledge]

mmh weapons sounds interesting, but i think mma style is enough

[warm tulip]

Then how much does Dom weigh?

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/wrestling-midget-fail-jump-fourtwenty-gif-16768990

[cold ledge]

not sure, never asked sort of an intime question

[warm tulip]

@hazy hedge the next time you’re in between TPS matches, how much do you weigh?

[cold ledge]

i mean you both would train beforehand

[warm tulip]

Lol like workout?

[hazy hedge]

Nothing good 💀

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/sylvester-stallone-rocky-training-montage-push-ups-gif-17971136

omg benny is typing

[atomic bramble]

You didnt pay your trubutes to the king yet.. so cant buy

[cold ledge]

who are you

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-your-father-darth-vader-gif-13250196

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-bateman-oh-shit-shiet-omg-oh-no-gif-15452811

[cold ledge]

so lethal company you down?

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/what-princess-leia-starwars-gif-11185391

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/its-crazy-times-we-live-in-pete-davidson-saturday-night-live-were-living-in-a-crazy-world-what-crazy-life-we-have-gif-18838339

[elfin tundra]

fighting for rights

[cold ledge]

thats steadfast?

[elfin tundra]

war of rights

[atomic bramble]

You got steadfast?

[cold ledge]

no but i watch sometimes on youtube, very funny

[elfin tundra]

i cant downclock my stupid laptop...

[atomic bramble]

Ah yeah it is kinda funny

[cold ledge]

try energy settings

[atomic bramble]

Attacking a fort with a marching band is hillarious

[elfin tundra]

only on discord and my CPU goes up to 70

[modest vault]

SA mining more CPU coins

[cold ledge]

in energy settings you can limit the power

a must on laptops

[elfin tundra]

maybe in bios i can do energy plan?

[modest vault]

whole new way to make money

[atomic bramble]

Laptop or desktop?

[cold ledge]

in windows

[elfin tundra]

laptop. its soo more louder then my desktop.. annoying

[cold ledge]

both gpu and cpu energy settings

[atomic bramble]

Then there should be easy settings

[cold ledge]

450k txn we mine for the validators

[modest vault]

• we lock heaps of SOL in accounts

[cold ledge]

yes after a while i let my laptop run on 15% power coz it was so annoying especially at night

[modest vault]

0.02 per account

we onboard what 1M users?

[cold ledge]

crazy numbers

[modest vault]

need 20-30 accounts to play labs

[cold ledge]

i want to see total numbers of sa for 23

[modest vault]

400k SOL locked up

in SA alone

[cold ledge]

a billion txn

[modest vault]

w/ 1M players

😂

[cold ledge]

hehe

[modest vault]

bullish

this is my whole bull case for SOL anyway

[atomic bramble]

[modest vault]

if they onboard 100M people

just so much gets locked away in accounts

😂

[atomic bramble]

Never thought of it that way

[cold ledge]

coz u slow

[atomic bramble]

I dont waste energy on such

Aka im smort

[cold ledge]

and poor

[cold ledge]

well is that good

[atomic bramble]

This too yes

[cold ledge]

you dont even play games no more your iq goes down by the minute

[atomic bramble]

Why am i even here

[cold ledge]

soon dom is beating you in every game

[atomic bramble]

I keep wondering

[cold ledge]

what

[cold ledge]

you my father

[atomic bramble]

Why am i here talking to an old german ?

[cold ledge]

im your son

play with me

[atomic bramble]

Get a job

[cold ledge]

lethal company

i buy it for you

[atomic bramble]

Link me first, not sure if i even wanna play

[cold ledge]

https ://store.steampowered.com/app/1966720/Lethal_Company/

[elfin tundra]

now i have i took charging cable out

and still spining like jet engine

https://tenor.com/view/f14-tomcat-navy-jet-aircraft-gif-9904440

I'm just thinking if i should try in bios

[cold ledge]

well go to youtube paste the name of the laptop and check for dissasembling, i bet its dirty as hell and you need to clean it

[cold ledge]

every laptop is like that after 6 months

[elfin tundra]

was cleaned in spring 😄

and best cooling paste

[cold ledge]

thats 9 months

[cold ledge]

fake

[elfin tundra]

ohh. okay

[elfin tundra]

i think it was as the best and most expensive

as i was running it on 95

[cold ledge]

thats what the guy told you and charged 50 bucks more

[elfin tundra]

with undervolting xD

[elfin tundra]

i hope not

but maybeee

[cold ledge]

its just with every little update your system get slower and on laptops you feel it much faster than a pc

how old is it?

[elfin tundra]

4 years now i think

but yea

it was always expensive

[cold ledge]

well good luck, thats old

[elfin tundra]

but now i'm thinking to slow it down

[cold ledge]

no wonder its screaming

[elfin tundra]

i have desktop from June to play games

[elfin tundra]

but it was always screaming

even if i'm not doing anything 😛

[cold ledge]

maybe get a tablet, there is no fans

[elfin tundra]

its definitely a special one

Acer Nitro 5 is known as very bad cooling system

[cold ledge]

dude i had asus , razer and hp laptops

they all the same

they start screaming sooner or later

[elfin tundra]

well CPUs getting better and faster. Laptops are getting smaller and thinner.

[cold ledge]

and i find with good graphics cards its even worse

[elfin tundra]

Energy has to go somewhere

but yea

[cold ledge]

they just cant handle the heat

[elfin tundra]

i really hate it. I will never buy gaming pc anymore

[cold ledge]

i did all sorty of crazy things like buying a stand with 4 fans and 2 extra fans for the exhausts

and still you cant handle the heat

so where did benny go

back to his other family?

[delicate haven]

Not getting scan results 🤔

[elfin tundra]

i also had that. But computer guy recommended me that not to use it fans, just lift it. Because fans just put more dirt in the pc

[cold ledge]

i mean 4 years it did a good job, try to find someone to buy it and get another one

[atomic bramble]

Could be funny, do you think we'll ever play more thsn once?

[cold ledge]

yeah refresh ctrl+f5 is your best chance atm

users getting lot of errors atm

[cold ledge]

i pay, so its fine

[elfin tundra]

@atomic bramble yours little one already have own laptop?

you buyin?

[cold ledge]

i can sell puri its for a good cause lol

community and so on

i have to send some puri to kucheto he is trying hard in ask a question

[cold ledge]

so we gaming or what kids in bed?

[umbral jacinth]

Sage labs going trough severe issues atm

[atomic bramble]

Just got home from a party

Had 9 sausages

https://tenor.com/view/olivia-munn-hotdogs-eat-hungry-gif-16345377

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-always-knew-you-were-good-i-didn't-know-you-were-this-good-simon-cowell-britain's-got-talent-you-impressed-me-gif-5101965901569963800

[atomic bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sausage-king-of-chicago-maitre-d-ferris-buellers-day-off-king-of-sausage-chicagos-sausage-king-gif-21739583

[cold ledge]

so you ready?

[desert beacon]

Crafting is broken rn

[cold ledge]

or should i play a single player game?

[random cobalt]

hi

[cold ledge]

yes everything struggles

@dim bay i saw you online, do you have the power to kick starcom?

[dim bay]

Away from home right now, I’ll tell the team to

[cold ledge]

thx

[atomic bramble]

Probably this for now

[cold ledge]

was nice knowing you, good bye

[atomic bramble]

Bye

[desert beacon]

How do I enable priority fees for phantom?

[cold ledge]

should be automatic

[lyric saddle]

aye i think you can't not have priority fees with phantom, currently

[desert beacon]

How do I use them with ledger?

[lyric saddle]

good question 🤔

[brittle totem]

anyone got issues with ui ?

or is it me again

😦

[cold ledge]

yes lots of issues atm, i hope we get a restart soon, hang in there

[brittle totem]

im scanning atm, the cooldown timer is working but i dont get any info if scans are positive or negative
When i restart the UI the TKs are deducted but i didnt get a single SDU
do you think im just burning TKs for nothing or the SDUs will appear later xd?

[cold ledge]

for me sometimes when i refresh i dont see the crafts or fleets, i think starcomm is struggling to get all the data

[brittle totem]

what does this mean? am i losing the TKs for nothing?

or we dont know ?

[muted wraith]

I'm having same issue with scanning. Just burning through toolkits. No successful scans or scan messages,

[cold ledge]

just that your browser (what you see) isnt updated quickly enough and some txn might fail

i would wait with the crafting for now till things more stable

[rich steeple]

crafting for me doesn't work at all, waiting does not help

[glossy crane]

hi guys

[rich steeple]

yo

[shrewd thorn]

same issue

[rich steeple]

we need a dev here, can't wait for 10 days to fix that 😄

[elfin tundra]

@cold ledge you were right. Fans were nasty nasty

Where the intake is. There was sooo much dirt

But no compressed air so dont want to do anything else

[cold ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/clean-it-up-mcjuggernuggets-get-it-cleaned-up-clean-up-your-mess-fix-it-gif-20706875

[hollow scroll]

It's been a few hours of crafting not working for me

[cold ledge]

yes a lot of users have this issue at the moment, i hope a starcomm restart will fix it, hang in there and sorry for the inconveniences

[serene willow]

Vb, do we have anyone restarting it, or just scheduled? (Just curious)

[elfin tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/it-restart-gif-21531929

[serene willow]

Full vacation mode, or did the intern got the lever?!?!?! 🤣

[atomic bramble]

I think buzz told the team so as soon someone gets home i suppose it gets fixed 😅

[serene willow]

🤣

[split solar]

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Please be cautious and do not reply to direct messages (DMs) from unknown or suspicious users. The Star Atlas Team and Mods will NEVER DM YOU FIRST. If you receive any unsolicited messages or suspicious requests, report them immediately. Your safety and security are our top priority. Stay vigilant and protect yourselves from potential scams. Thank you and fly safe!

[warm tulip]

I should look at mine for just bought a new 3080 lol

[glossy crane]

my first ship : )

[brittle totem]

seems like the TKs are burnt for nothing ?

[sterile zephyr]

Nice choice

[sonic raven]

Mine is failing multiple transactions I am not even doing any transactions

[elfin tundra]

Next goal: C11

[proven walrus]

Hi good evening! I have question 🙋‍♂️ I use to get daily rewards for the ship (Opal Jetjet ) of 24 atlas token. Now only getting 16 atlas. Why did it change please, someone explain thanks 🙏🏼

[elfin tundra]

Congrats Captain! @glossy crane

[elfin tundra]

Score emmisions decreased

[brittle totem]

Faction fleet got reduced by 33%

[elfin tundra]

Time to try SAGE 😁

[glossy crane]

thx guys 🙂

[proven walrus]

Why decrease? Explain please! 🙏🏼

[glossy crane]

letsgooo

[sterile zephyr]

#🩹┃patch-notes message

[sterile zephyr]

I have almost 500k Toolkits I can't claim from crafting. TX keeps failing but I can Dock, Warp and Mine

[willow cloak]

same here for almost 3 hrs

[sweet dew]

I have 564 Golden Tickets from week 1 of the Lottery I am still trying to claim.

[sonic raven]

Ouch

[sonic raven]

You are a much bigger fish than I am my friend

[gloomy elbow]

Aren you using Solflare?

[sonic raven]

To better fund sage

My scan doesn’t seem to be working either

[willow cloak]

this too...

[rich steeple]

it is a P2E game, you need to actually play the game to earn

[rich steeple]

crafting is broken, same for phantom

[delicate haven]

same...

[sonic raven]

I guess it time to take a break and go mine some airdrops

[rich steeple]

don't worry guys, devs will be back in 10 days

[storm crystal]

According to my observations, the current state is:
txs get (mostly) executed, but the (direct) tx confirmation isn't sent back to Sage (from Hellomoon), thus there is no toast message and no scan probability (and therefore there are a lot of "signature expired" messages in the console log).
I hope there is someone who can contact Hellomoon about this problem.

[brittle totem]

so are our burnt TKs gone?

[late pollen]

Crafting is broken for compounds and components, it is not when you craft single resources like copper, iron, copper wire. The moment you need 2 or more resources to craft something it fails.

[brittle totem]

from scanning*

[rich steeple]

you might be right, that's why it gives double errors when trying to craft

[west slate]

not sure thats on hello moon though, starcom is supposed to be reading the chain for the confirmation, now with how overloaded sol is right now due to the pump right before xmas transactions are taking slightly longer then normal to confirm and are not as garenteed to confirm

[errant quiver]

Hellomoon is their RPC too I think

[sterile zephyr]

Just a fat carp. Nothing special

[west slate]

yeah but its more complex then that as its not about user to server - also note they did say that they are in the process of writing starcom in rust instead of the current javascript

as sol is in rust a lot of the errors are happening due to that

ie starcoms not able to keep up right now, this is a known issue that puts more pressure on the rpc provider

[errant quiver]

Yeah, I understand that. Just right now I see that they are not getting the confirmation for the transaction and that's most probably the cause, why they are not sending the next transaction

[west slate]

the point is its being worked on regardless we just need to be patent for the next week

ie team gets back a week from monday

[errant quiver]

Yep, well, probably no crafting until then

[whole moon]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-there-hello-sup-swag-gif-17652416

[rich steeple]

you guys blame specific components of the process but it's not logical if some actions are valid and some not. If my tx goes thorugh and I see it on the chain then how can it be the game does not register it. Everything I tried is registered on the chain, only things I know that are not working are scanning and crafting that need more than 1 different resource

[west slate]

starcom needs to read the chain to update on its end, thats where a lot of the problems are

[rich steeple]

I'm new player, only 2 days in the game but as I understood this is supposed to be one of the leading projects in this area. Devs can't let them have 10 days off time when issues like this are presented

[west slate]

this is like not even pre alpha stages though

[rich steeple]

doesn't matter, all starups have customer support

[west slate]

also the other aspect is labs is getting ready to transition over to the next stage and will be depreciated

so the fact is they are more concerned with the next iteration then they are maintaining the current one

also note the work for the next itteration does impact labs as its all the same server tech regardless

[rich steeple]

still this does not make any difference in the fact that this game is supposed to be P2E which means every second = money

therefor, every second I must be able to earn

no crafting = no earning

[west slate]

you need to adjust your expectations

this is still one of the best p2e projects however its still the early stages

[rich steeple]

I don't have any expectations, I said I am new player. Game advertises itself as P2E, I'm here just stating the facts

[west slate]

you can always just put the ships in score

there are other options

[rich steeple]

why if they reduce the commision so that we would actaullty play labs

[west slate]

honestly its just another week chill out, also the actual rush on labs has been done now that the primary event - golden tickets and the bulk of the crafting has finished

most of us are winding down operations anyways

[rich steeple]

you're too soft on this, people lose money right now

it's business

MUST have 24/7 support

[edgy isle]

Hello, I was mining mrz-29, but I cannot make a harvest stop for 2-3 hours, it cuts the money, but minininig does not stop.

???

[rich steeple]

don't worry brother devs will back in 10 days 😂

[timid sable]

same here for all, i'm juggling between Labs and Golden Era...

[west slate]

it sounds like your not psychologically ready for the early access stuff

[rich steeple]

or devs are not taking this project serously enough?

[west slate]

try refreshing after every transaction also check on the chain

if it went through on chain just keep refreshing and wait don't put in another transaction

[west slate]

if that was the case it would have been rugged a long time ago

[west slate]

swag literally explained in the town hall where the issues with starcom are

[edgy isle]

0.19 atlas stops but mining doesn't stop, I'm waiting but it doesn't stop

[west slate]

and the fact is we just need to wait

[west slate]

turn off atlas prime

use sol

as that will make sure you don't get duble charged on the token account stuff

and again check on chain for the transaction

[rich steeple]

nah you're just defending a project with poor risk management, team must be always ready to act on issues like we're having right now. It's unacctable to say that they will deal with this in 10 days time

there is no excuse for such incidents

[west slate]

then come back once the project is past these stages

[mellow sinew]

holiday is holiday advance happy new year everyone gm

[west slate]

early access stuff is not for everyone

[rich steeple]

if early accress stuff is connected to real money then you must make sure that it's available at all times

[edgy isle]

Thanks you atlas Prima ?

[west slate]

if your using atlas for transactions that means altas prime is on

[gloomy elbow]

The old version of labs is working ok for me

[rich steeple]

try to craft items that need 2 diffenret resources

[deep tangle]

hello, is it possible to play the game now? (can somebody show me how to play?)

[timid sable]

what is the best way to harvest SDU ?

[gloomy elbow]

yes

[deep tangle]

can i find some tutorial somewhere how to startup? of is it somewhere else really easy?

[gloomy elbow]

use a fleet of xxs small ships to scan

[gloomy elbow]

look in links

https://discord.com/channels/789226204980707409/843881286611501066

[deep tangle]

okay i wil doo thanks

[timid sable]

i have 7 Fimbul Airbike and use Galia Expense but it's very long to harvest

[rich steeple]

a lot of this game is trying out diffent stategies and things that work for you, also depends on how much you are willing to invest in your fleet

[deep tangle]

okay thanks, yeah my friend already invested alot into this game, and he told me about it. im now also intereseted but im first trying to see and learn all about it, maybe play the beta

[spiral ravine]

You can still mine and transport. Try using the V1 labs link from the announcements page. Its an RPC server issue that they have been working on. TBH There is no game in web3 this complicated with this many transactions .. nothing is even close so chill

[deep tangle]

i looked at this links page on discord but i see on epic games that its coming soon, is there another way to access the game?

🙂

[west slate]

also the real solution is the starcom in rust, that will alow for them to bypass a lot of the bottlenecks in the api, note that takes time and will likely be done for starbased, note that right now all the play to earn is done in seasons, the rfr is to bypass the need to go back to score till we have starbased

ie meaning labs will roll directly into starbased

[rich steeple]

yeah I get it but still there must be someone on the call duty if shit hits the fan, it's a business here

no notifications, no updates, nothing

[west slate]

this still means most of these problems will persist for a while regardless of what the team does right now

the mods are still here

[limpid isle]

What is starcomm current tech stack/language?

[west slate]

so if there is a real issue the team will be aware also there are blue names on

note one of them is swag

[rich steeple]

I worked in finance and I was on call duty on christmas night and the whole bank system crashed and I was working that day, no excuses. Our problems also persisted but if you know you are likely to encounter issues then you must think on reduncancy and how you act when the issues arise

[west slate]

I think they said javascript mostly, it was explained in the town hall

[rich steeple]

not just say , we will be back on 8th of january

[spiral ravine]

TY .. I just searched .. looks like a lot of work .. going from JS to Rust

[west slate]

odds are not as much as we think due to it needing to interact with rust regardless

ie the team needed to learn rust because of sol

[stray marsh]

We’re gonna hire two high schoolers and have them finish it over the weekend

Just like the UE5

[limpid isle]

Rofl

[west slate]

they were forced to downsize because you finance types don't do your jobs properly

[limpid isle]

Can't you run JavaScript repo through AI and have it converted to Rust?

[rich steeple]

yeah you can hate if you want but no project with shitty attitude towards their customers ( money) never break thorugh

[spiral ravine]

Bro .. when I worked for IBM we hired a kid in HS and one with no GED who just got out of jail because they were the only ones who could code right. lol

[stray marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[limpid isle]

I was kidding about conversion

[autumn meadow]

Who's the one with a shitty attitude here? Anyone who doesn't agree with how the team is running things is more than welcome to leave rather than stay here and complain about it.

[west slate]

starcom has no other precident odds are thats not the best option

[rich steeple]

comments like this are what ruin the image of business

[west slate]

well if you finance types did not push for the bs that let sbf do his little scam they would have a bigger crew on over the break

[limpid isle]

Dude, everything is going great in this project. I've been very impressed with things since Labs launched

[west slate]

honestly its a ligit question for that

I mean I would not trust ai with something as complex and unique as starcom but odds are they are using ai for parts of the code

[limpid isle]

I use it so much as a programmer

[limpid isle]

That's how I use it

[autumn meadow]

I'm not here to argue with some random internet stranger. All I am saying is we have spent enough time with the team through the highs and lows to understand their character and integrity. It baffles how many people jump into chat and complain as if the team hasn't jumped through a million hoops to try to deliver to the best of their ability, and those people LOVE to tell them how they are doing everything wrong. Why are people like that still here? If they don't like it, they can leave and come back later when it's not in pre-alpha so that things can run more smoothly like they want them to.

[rich steeple]

still need to do better than this, that's very low effort towards customer satisfaction

[limpid isle]

But who will buy my wares if they leave???

[rich steeple]

you can't just tell people to leave if they are not satisified, you clearly have no business experience

[west slate]

if anything its smoother for me then before the team went on break

so I don't know what you would expect

swag got up on stage and explained the issues with starcom, meaning we just need to chill out and wait

[slate plinth]

does this game have ongoing costs

or do you just buy the game and can play and earn everything in game

[limpid isle]

I think it's been great, but my specialty is releasing shaky code to the masses

[rich steeple]

I would expect someone to be here and confirm that shit is fucked and needs to be fixed, currently very important functions are not working. I'm not only one with issues, I'm just vocal enough to say it out

[limpid isle]

On going costs

[west slate]

in theory you can buy a single airbike and a bit of r4 and just cycle that indefinitely, however a few bad decisions might force you to put some more money in but thats pennies at that level, the cost of mistakes go up as you scale up

[limpid isle]

Like fuel ammo Toolkits and food

[slate plinth]

CHers back to Starcitizen lol

[west slate]

if you get an airblike some r4 and a claimstake you should be good to go, not sure how fun it would be but you would be good

[limpid isle]

I should be in sales

[west slate]

so about 60usd or so start up cost (45 for the t1 stake 7 for the airbike another 10 or so for r4 and sol fees)

also you should get surplus r4 that you can sell to buy more bikes with that

should being that your not going boom too often

[limpid isle]

But it's easy to generate profit to overcome on going expenses.

[slate plinth]

well i have a freind that plays entropia and h hated the model of the game

whe ni saw this it feel like it ws the same

u have to keep trickling in money to play

[west slate]

no its not the same

[storm crystal]

Confirming on the blockchain isn't the problem ... the txs get mostly confirmed. The problem is the back-response to Sage. Sage doesn't get the acknowledgment from Hellomoon.
For normal transactions (like warping) this isn't a problem, because the blockchain is still synced to Sage in the background, but for SDU scanning it IS a problem, because you get no info about scanning successes and scanning probabilities (because this info is included in the acknowledgment from Hellomoon).

[west slate]

I play entropia as well

[slate plinth]

so i buy a ship... i can earn in game currently to upgrade to someting bigger?

[west slate]

again the primary fix for that is still starcom in rust

as that would lower the pressure on the rpc servers

[slate plinth]

how come nobody streams the game?

[peak badger]

Crafting is broken ?

[minor thunder]

We've had this discussion thousands of times before you arrive and I'm new too, the team is doing as much as they can, there is limited money and the technology is extremely new, it's up to you whether you stay in the project or leave it.

[umbral jacinth]

Im also having issues

[limpid isle]

Correct. Upgrade or expand

[umbral jacinth]

It’s been like this for hours

[rich steeple]

it's not about only me, it's about investors who need to meet their targets. If the service is down and nobody takes a look at this then this is the worst thing a company can do

[umbral jacinth]

I can craft in one base. But my main one is not operational

[topaz pine]

anyone having trouble rafting RFRs?

[supple bough]

not bigger, the hull stays the same, you will be able to you can upgrade components

[umbral jacinth]

Yes

[rich steeple]

everyone has issues and the team doesnt care

[topaz pine]

havent seen this websocket issue before

[umbral jacinth]

Team is on holidays in dubai

[west slate]

my advice if your not willing to put more outside money in after a point is to make sure you have at least 1 t1 claimstake as that would let you slow down and build up resorces to keep going

[rich steeple]

doesn't matter, that's how you fuck your business

[west slate]

that is if you make a mistake or want to wait for more favorable prices etc

[topaz pine]

i can usually force it through

[umbral jacinth]

Yes that is weird. I’ve noticed it too

[topaz pine]

but it seems extra fucked today

[storm crystal]

yep, my JS console looks the same.

[limpid isle]

Thank you for the clarification, I was thinking "sell and buy a better ship",

[topaz pine]

like immediately dying right now

normally it waits ebfore it dies

[slate plinth]

im a grinder... i like being able to play and build up over time by actaul playing the game.... if my ship is destroyed do you have to buy another one using real money? or do i have insurance on the ship?

[west slate]

we don't have that yet

[slate plinth]

i dont mind spending money in a game e.g subscription costs

[topaz pine]

feels like starcomm failing on top

[west slate]

right now getting blown up is just r4 costs, that will be the case mostly indefinitely as long as you stay in your faction controlled area

[rich steeple]

By the way, who do think is paying for DUBAI holidays???????????????

WE DO

[topaz pine]

is someone really in dubai? im going in january

[west slate]

read the sage manual it explains how the zone system works

ie sec, mrz, hrz

[umbral jacinth]

Mate I was joking I have no idea where the team is. I’m also frustrated

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[umbral jacinth]

Be patient is the only option for now

[rich steeple]

indeed but being in crypto space is the same as being in finance.

you must ensure that shit works

imagine if your banks says you cannot withdraw money

[topaz pine]

lol they couldnt be more different

what the fuck

lol

no one is comparing crypto to banks

shit doesnt work 50% of the time right now

cutting edge tech

if yo dont like it come back in 5 years

https://tenor.com/view/kl-gif-25745415

[rich steeple]

yeah that's why people don't have trust in crypto

REGULAR people

[topaz pine]

okay

[rich steeple]

not fan boys like you

[topaz pine]

they can enjoy buying skins and donating money to blizzard

and getting fucked by microtransactions

[rich steeple]

and they will because it WORKS

entertainment

for money

[topaz pine]

good. they arent ready then

if they cant handle a little down time

what is your point even?

[serene willow]

Any crafting involving multiple ingredients is failing into "incomplete deposit". I'm sticking to converting ore until this gets sorted... This is verified working. Not just that, all single ingredient recipes. Polymer worked, hydrocarbon didn't. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[limpid isle]

Some great banter in here 💋

[topaz pine]

crypto should magically be better then banks where banking systems have been around for 200+ years?

come on bro

fucking green leafs

[rich steeple]

i'm not talking about just crypto i'm talking about handling your business

[topaz pine]

im going to try slamming recipes for another 5 minutes

[rich steeple]

where the fuck are the people responsible for this project??

[topaz pine]

maybe if we ignore him

he will go away

[topaz pine]

whats new this weekend? i see airbikes are pumping like mad

[rich steeple]

"we" you trying to find supporters of the poorly managed business

[topaz pine]

every time i try and buy airbikes they pump like 30%

i think someoone is tracking my trades

trying to front run me

p.s. its working i dont have time for bartering

sell me airbikes

[minor thunder]

Bots are destroying the market

[clear meteor]

hi

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-6997856904020830598

sammmmyyyy

did the cat summon you?

[minor thunder]

I hate this one

[limpid isle]

Direct sales ftw

[serene willow]

Bro, I get it, it sucks. But they're not running away. Last 2 years were BRUTAL, and they pulled through. Last 2 months were insanely productive. A LOT was implemented/fixed.
So, yeah, I'll take a week of shitty performance if that means they'll come back blasting through shit like they did over the past 2 months. Btw, no fanboy here, quite the opposite. I'm VERY vocal about crap not working.

[topaz pine]

we had no marketplace bots in R9 in 3sma just showed up. hes annoying

[limpid isle]

The worst!

[topaz pine]

but Mert said we shouldnt get mad at ht at the market because it does market stuff so im trying to be more chil

[storm crystal]

I hate this one

[plush vessel]

I wish there was a way to tag them in the browser just for quick reference.

[topaz pine]

potentially on the teams list

[serene willow]

Dude, don't get me started. I ran some numbers, and realized my bottloneck is crew for crafting (compared to Hog crafting). Apparently others did the same, lol! All XXS are pumping...

[topaz pine]

i just sell everything at spread now. cant be bothered

[serene willow]

I'm currently going through a "problem" were I can only use 1/2 my SDU earned through scanning, cause I can't keep up with crafting times... 🤦🏻‍♂️

[rich steeple]

for sure, I don't even for once think that they are not trying their best but in cases of collective vacation you must have people who take care of the business, especially for cases where shit can hit the fan.

[limpid isle]

Let them rest and be merry

[rich steeple]

no

[topaz pine]

2 more tries then im back to easy components til tmw

[minor thunder]

Simple solution: Discount the 6% on each sales order, if you withdraw the order and place it again, charge again, bye bye bots

[topaz pine]

they will just spin up multple wallets. it will hurt players

[clear meteor]

terrible timing tbh. most of the current issues are due to solana being incredibly congested. If it were something where we'd be able to fix everything in a day and get stuff back up and running I'd agree with you, but theres probably going to be a week or so of refactoring stuff when we get back

[topaz pine]

there is no simply solution for this type of program

you have to gate it behind subtantial stuff like actions taken in game, levels, etc. something that cant be easily replicated by making a new wallet

[serene willow]

Tip: put stuff at roughly 6% below ask. That's usually the threshold were bots lose profit margin, and don't over/undercut. 😉

Or 6% above bid

[clear meteor]

On the bright side though, a lot of focus is going into fixing existing issues next year

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

[minor thunder]

If discounting 6% in advance solves it, they will not be able to update orders whenever someone covers their orders

[limpid isle]

Bryan, you finding selling complex things better than simple things? I'm just selling R4s

[clear meteor]

its still a lack of priority fees for the most part, no?

[storm crystal]

or put a small buy offer that forces the bot to do a higher offer and then sell into it.

[topaz pine]

no i dont sell anything complex. it wasnt liquid enough

[rich steeple]

the issues right now are probably fixed via restarting something, because people can craft 1 resource items but if craft needs more than 1 then it just does not go through even tho the TX is going through

[serene willow]

They have, it's not fully drifting ashore. But these issues are usually mixed up between several layers of problems. And some are not on their end... Sucks, but it's still VERY profitable.

[topaz pine]

no. something else is happening now. i can usually force it through with phantom but even phantom was failing. I'm also getting websocket connection failures. so i suspect this is an RPC issue on top of the priority issue. at least thats what im seeing right now.

[clear meteor]

interesting

well, on the other bright side of things, part of my plan over break is fixing a lot of our metrics and logging so I dont have to go on discord and ask you guys whats broken lol

[topaz pine]

index-f1c661fa.js:81 WebSocket connection to 'wss://rpc.hellomoon.io/cfd5910f-fb7d-4489-9b32-f97193eceefd' failed: 
index-f1c661fa.js:82 ws error: undefined
index-f1c661fa.js:2937 Refreshing all c```

and earlier they were insta failing so definitely more then 1 thing happening right now

[serene willow]

The actual solution is to tag the high frequency accounts, so we know they're bots, and avoid them like the plague

[topaz pine]

yeah this was my suggestion in FR. Swagner liked it. basically just give them a bot icon like birdseye.

[clear meteor]

you can filter them out in the marketplace

[topaz pine]

you cant really avoid it either

[clear meteor]

theres a filter button I think?

[topaz pine]

no one wants to ignroe them

bc then they undercut you and you have no idea whats happening

[modest vault]

no

[topaz pine]

i guess if people are ONLY buying the filter is OK

[modest vault]

single airbike u actually can't make $

fees too high

[clear meteor]

so a "bot" icon is what people want?

[modest vault]

for what?

[clear meteor]

idk

[topaz pine]

thats the best solution ive been able to come up with

[clear meteor]

How do you know an account is a bot?

[topaz pine]

basically you give bot an icon in marketplace similar to birdseye so people know they are bots

[limpid isle]

Seems like a feature that is more work than it's worth?

[topaz pine]

ridiciuously easy. these guys are doing 100x more transactions then humans

10000x

[modest vault]

the problem is no one cares if it's a bot

I know the outspoken people do

but 95% of the playerbase don't even look at discord

[clear meteor]

So I just make a smarter bot that does all this in individual accounts instead of using the same

[topaz pine]

nah if you see a bot icon with the exact same price of as someone else on the marketplae they will avoid it

[clear meteor]

just pushes the problem down the road

[topaz pine]

nah. you need atlas lockers

[modest vault]

the problem is 1 of the bot owners alrdy did this

[modest vault]

depends on ur goal

if u just wanna drive prices down

[topaz pine]

and its significantly harder engineering. and these bots are fucking amateurs

[serene willow]

Not really. Complex recipes rely on multiple contracts, and if one fails, it all fails. And this is the issue. A simple recipe goes easier. Multiple ones require a compunded "luck" for multiple things happening in sequence. And it seems this is the issue.

[modest vault]

u spin up 100 accounts all undercutting each other for like 20k resources each

[minor thunder]

No, just tax all orders in advance, if the bot removes the order and places it again, tax it again.

[modest vault]

this isn't viable

u actually fuck real players who tranche orders

cause ATLAS is so volatile

[limpid isle]

Seems like that would hurt everyone

[clear meteor]

taxes

[topaz pine]

anyways all the icon does is making it more visibile. players may choose to ignore them. and they will if there is a price disparity. however, if the prices are near identical i think people will choose human players

[rich steeple]

still some middle layer issue, blockchain confirms the tx so it's the whatever layer in between that doesn't know how to read blockchain

[minor thunder]

So let's let them dominate the market 🙂

[modest vault]

I want ability to remove orders by size by market tho

it's kind of dumb u have to do min size for different markets and always change it

[serene willow]

It wouldn't fix it, but would at least expose them, and we can avoid giving this scum $

[modest vault]

to me bot issue is so low on priority list for marketplace stuff lol

[clear meteor]

seems like a lot of work

[topaz pine]

lol thats true

[modest vault]

Give liquidity to bit multiple markets

give me ability to have different market filter by market

[topaz pine]

mate if adding an icon to ppl with high transaction count is hard work we are absolutely screwed

you guys are trrying to do shit liek iniinitely more difficult

[clear meteor]

hm. nice error message

[modest vault]

When is star atlas moving to SUI?

[topaz pine]

yeah like i said its not the old congestion errors

[topaz pine]

bro SA would crash SUI

[modest vault]

wen interoperability

[storm crystal]

I said it before, a wild idea: If you want to list something on the marketplace, you need a "market ticket" that can be crafted in-game (or can be bought on the marketplace).
Then a high-frequency bot would be forced to lower the frequency of the bids - or it would need to buy a lot of these tickets, thus giving us money for it.
But as I said: It's a wild idea.

[clear meteor]

I mean yeah we can do that, but idk

[modest vault]

no because all the normies would still play on SOL

[serene willow]

Exactly, it's Honeymoon. And they suck. Bad. And it's a 3rd party service

[modest vault]

it's not honeymoon tho

saying they suck is silly

no one can handle it

period

it doesn't matter who is providing the RPC service

it's going to break down

[limpid isle]

Would you rather have team work on anti bot or different feature? I'd rather have them work on other things

[clear meteor]

exactly

[serene willow]

Agreed, though. But it's annoying.

[topaz pine]

i mean... yeah. i would prefer marketplace to be local with numbers and volume of transaction to be gated by player level and a whole lot more. but we arent there yet

[limpid isle]

I feel your pain

[minor thunder]

There is no way to impose restrictions without affecting real players, you can also impose a time to withdraw the order, say 1h...

[rich steeple]

just use runescape grand exchange system for market and all issues are resolved

[modest vault]

Bots would absolutely destroy real players more there

[topaz pine]

ive heard a lot of ppl say marketplace isnt game and then they focus on "game" when marketplace is the single most important part of the game imo

[modest vault]

they can provide the most liquidity the easiest

[modest vault]

The marketplace being so shit has cost SA piles of $

I promise everyone

imagine coming here if u r a whale

[clear meteor]

making marketplace perform less like crap is better

[modest vault]

u want to buy 50 taps

[spiral ravine]

That address seems down. 45.250.254.106

[modest vault]

it breaks on 2 refreshes

u leave

[clear meteor]

better than adding a bot icon imo

[topaz pine]

i was thinking of a super easy low cost solution to address botting that could be achieved RIGHT NOW.

[minor thunder]

The best example of all is the Eve Online market.

[topaz pine]

u guys need 6 months to fix marketplace

[storm crystal]

Wohoo, transaction acknowledgments are working again. I'm getting toast messages.

[modest vault]

wen new marketplace

[topaz pine]

bot icon like 2 days

[modest vault]

shouldn't bot icon take like 15minutes

[topaz pine]

yes

[modest vault]

If daily transactions > X, mark bot

[topaz pine]

art for bot icon should take longer

[modest vault]

"If anyone wants to dispute they are a bot DM someone"

[clear meteor]

do you have an api that returns daily transaction count I can use?

[modest vault]

😂

[modest vault]

It seems like this should have been built into

a fucking marketplace

in the first place

no?

like

didn't u guys build the marketplace from the ground up

why is so many things missing

[clear meteor]

[modest vault]

I guess we are never getting any airdrops from SA

cause they can't actually track volume or anything

😄

[topaz pine]

@clear meteor do you know the birdeye.so folks?

they already have the code to do it

[clear meteor]

I mean we know how to do it, just a matter of whether it already exists

[rich steeple]

yeah shits working again, nice

[modest vault]

at this point I'd take a marketplace that doesn't have to be refreshed every 5 clicks tho

[topaz pine]

yeah but that is months away

[modest vault]

this is baffling to me

😂

like all these RPC issues won't be resolved w/ firedancer

so wtf is gonna happen

[topaz pine]

1.18 should fix a lot of congestion issues

but until then...

priority fees

[modest vault]

btw if we were ramping up the number of calls/volume etc cause of player influx

that'd be one issue

[serene willow]

Yep... Kinda embarassing, and I mean it not disrespectfully. I'm not going anywhere, just want this to be better and better

[modest vault]

but we've had the same DAU for 3months

and no improvements

[serene willow]

How poorly market performs

[topaz pine]

okay fair marketplace issues have been around for a long time

but congestion issues are pretty new

[modest vault]

like I'm sure they have fixed some stuff

but as someone not on the inside

u'd never know it

[modest vault]

u know I had to pay 50cents for a transaction

on solana

[topaz pine]

like Sammy said hes going to build a lot of debugging tools when he gets back

[serene willow]

Oooof

Yuck

[topaz pine]

there is so many points of failure imo

is it solana

is it rpc

is it web

[modest vault]

buildinggggg

it's good tho

all these new chains will struggle w/ same issues

[clear meteor]

adding debugging before I get back lol

[topaz pine]

is it a power outage in your moms basement

[modest vault]

but the on chain gaming

[topaz pine]

like who knows

[modest vault]

man I love the idea of actual proof of work for gaming

but it's so rough atm 😂

[serene willow]

It's called SDU scanning

[modest vault]

I know team wants all this shit fixed too I hope no one is feeling bad that shit isn't working

[serene willow]

🤣

[topaz pine]

lol turn off SDU scanning. save solana

[modest vault]

it's just good to vent it all out occasionally

[topaz pine]

lmaoooo

[serene willow]

Hahahahahaha

[modest vault]

I mean SDU scanning they could change a bunch?

to lower stress

[topaz pine]

yes

[modest vault]

I mean the fees are so bad

[serene willow]

They NEED to change it

[modest vault]

they should probably do that

[topaz pine]

ive been saying this for 4 months

[modest vault]

like stress tests were great

[topaz pine]

it was a cool idea but just a bad bad design for blockchain

this isnt an FPS game

[modest vault]

but now that fees are up something has to change

[serene willow]

I've been saying this since literally day 1 of Sage. Scanning mechanic is abhorrent

[modest vault]

just make it a mining mechanic

[serene willow]

Exactly

[modest vault]

and allow more than 10 ships

[topaz pine]

i suppose they learned a LOT for when we have real time combat

[serene willow]

I mean, that doesn't prevent me from joining the party, but it sucks SO bad, lol

Meanwhile, we accumulate

[topaz pine]

0.002456 tx fee

[serene willow]

Or cry trying

[topaz pine]

LFG it might work this time

[serene willow]

Ouch

[topaz pine]

i think its working

GO CRAFT NOW

it worked

googogogogog

@here craft now

[umbral jacinth]

Yes

[umbral jacinth]

Let’s go guys

[serene willow]

For $0.2? Nope

[desert beacon]

finally got one going

[serene willow]

Will try in a few minutes

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-leonardo-dicaprio-django-unchained-meme-gif-18513725

[serene willow]

Hahahaha

[topaz pine]

craft more RFRS sir

[serene willow]

I have 10k lined up

[topaz pine]

70,000 atlas dont care about no tx fees

[serene willow]

Fair enough

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-6997856904020830598

[serene willow]

But... Stuff is not stopped, so it's not a real loss

[topaz pine]

yeah thats true

[serene willow]

Mining hydro meanwhile

[topaz pine]

but daily compounding y'know

[umbral jacinth]

They said the tax fees for rfr are temporary right?

[serene willow]

God bless Groove

No shit...

[topaz pine]

yeah

[umbral jacinth]

It’s better to wait then than to sell it now

[serene willow]

Yeah, gotta think about selling it and losing 5-6%, and using the Atlas, or waiting

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-ragnarok-isitthough-doubt-it-gif-18239143

https://tenor.com/view/mymoney-needthat-gif-13598893

[serene willow]

Really depends. If you're compounding for 1.5%/day, makes sense to sell now and put those Atlas to use

[desert beacon]

Tell me you don’t hold enough polis without telling me you don’t hold enough polis

[serene willow]

Theu won't cut the fees in the next 3-4 days

[topaz pine]

whats polis?

[serene willow]

Wen Polis bag?

[desert beacon]

Scam token stay away

[topaz pine]

i had to mute the Puri server. 🥹

[serene willow]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[topaz pine]

100 pings per day.

[serene willow]

Dude, I went off for a few days, came back to Econ channel being Puri-land

[topaz pine]

haha

[serene willow]

I was legit lost for a few... Like, where am I???

[topaz pine]

Puri is cool but id rather focus on Atlas and Polis

[umbral jacinth]

I will risk to wait a bit more. Patience is important in this game guys. Never invest with feelings

[serene willow]

Not feelings

[topaz pine]

https://tenor.com/view/balls-carry-heavy-gif-9906845

i invest with these

[serene willow]

I'm literally compounding at 1.5%/day

[topaz pine]

how are you getting 1.5%/day?

[serene willow]

So it really doesn't make sense to wait, for me at least

[topaz pine]

TIPS?

[serene willow]

Stonks

[modest vault]

Any fee enjoyers

[serene willow]

Nah, lol

[umbral jacinth]

They said beginning of the year there is no more tax

It’s in a couple if days

What are the cons?

[topaz pine]

team isnt back til the 8th bro

you going to be waiting a long time

[serene willow]

A VERY well oiled machine, comprising scanners, miners, transporting, and crafting

[modest vault]

I've provided over 1M RFR liquidity

[umbral jacinth]

Mate it’s 1 week and half

[modest vault]

week and half is a lot

[umbral jacinth]

What can go wrong?

[modest vault]

if u can OTC for 1.96

[topaz pine]

nice. Yaawn taunt me once how to do a complex setup but it was too much work. im like 50% inefficient right now

[serene willow]

10 days is 15% here. Nope, not waiting

[serene willow]

Pm, bro, I'll gladly geek out about it with you. 😉

[hardy elm]

[desert beacon]

Quantity / convinience > quality

[umbral jacinth]

What do you mean?

[modest vault]

Iunno I think crafting away from CSS is nice 😄

[topaz pine]

remind me in the new year. im on a mini vacation staying in an old pub hotel in some ancient british city

[modest vault]

u can ship home the complex stuff w/ SLY tool

[desert beacon]

I do some of this for sure

[modest vault]

[serene willow]

I mean literally that. I'd be waiting to save 5.1% on fees, when I can make 15% by using those Atlas during those 10 days

[umbral jacinth]

Oh

[modest vault]

what ponzi is this

[umbral jacinth]

You mean trading?

[serene willow]

Haha awesome! Enjoy, man! I'll ping you next week some time

[serene willow]

It's called Sage-Labs, and being almost autistic level (no offense...) on min-maxing everything.

[modest vault]

sure but what r u spending the ATLAS on that u need it immediately

[serene willow]

Ships

[modest vault]

more ships doesn't really help me

[serene willow]

Hahaha you're FAR off the curve, Yaawn

You should spend on hirelings

🤣

[thorny lagoon]

More ships = more digging and scanning = more profit = more ships 😄

[serene willow]

Exactly

I was making about 5 Hogs/day with about $10k invested (market value)

[umbral jacinth]

I guess it all depends on your predictions. According to mine I think bitcoin will fall very soon before sky rocket again. So trading atlas right now wouldn’t be convenient. Ps: according to my predictions as I stated before. Let’s see what will happen

[normal stone]

gm

[serene willow]

Still, I'm not even watching outside price

I just compound in. It won't be selling season for me for at least several years, so...

Makes sense to just compound in

BTC could go to 20k, I don't care

[umbral jacinth]

So if you just want to compound why you need to use your atlas for?

Why not wait until the 8th of january?

[serene willow]

? How do I buy ships if I don't sell RFR into Atlas?

[umbral jacinth]

To get more

Ok

So you want to buy ships then

[serene willow]

Precisely my point. 🙂

[umbral jacinth]

Now I understand your logic

[serene willow]

I'm nowhere near where I want to be as far as ship amount

[desert beacon]

Bro why you juicin up the chat?

[serene willow]

Hahahaha

[umbral jacinth]

Well I have some hundreds of thousands rfr. I’d rather wait a bit and sell it with no tax. More convenient to me

[serene willow]

It's also a very valid play

Not for me though

Hehe

Ok, let's try to craft

[umbral jacinth]

Let’s go!

[sonic raven]

My first scan worked. Yay

[cloud crypt]

has anyone managed to change the controls?

[sonic raven]

And crafting with multiple inputs

[serene willow]

Yeah! It's back!

[sonic raven]

I knew if I took a long shower it would fix everything

[slate hound]

been trying to dock my fleet for the past four hours and not working. any thoughts???