I feel very stuck in terms of progression - need help

[dry wolf]

Hello all, I had so much fun with the game, grinding, upgrading gear, do PvP etc..

But lately I've been pretty stuck. Each upgrade, either pen debo or tet gear to buy costs almost 200b.
I had very bad experiences with the necklace (oct and nov pittied) so I thought buying would be the better idea for the remaining acc, but it costs a lot as I said.

That's why I wanted to ask how you handled the position and weren't frustrated to wait so long for an upgrade.

Thank you!

[balmy fable]

I personally, even though debo route was better back then already, just went the kharazad route and made myself comfortable with spending more money on average for the same stats just to get the gradual upgrading to make the grind bearable for me, worked out in the end because every click I could get motivated me.
Can't say that this is universal, but for me it worked to just ignore the efficient path and take the longer approach that has multiple steps in between.

[dry wolf]

Yeah I might consider this as well. Originally I thought its a good idea to buy pen Debo and save crons for sov upgardes.
But I would have to save over a trillion silver to buy the accs and armor makes me want to quit haha

[balmy fable]

Yeah, mathematically the debo route definitely is better, but mentally it will depend on your character and the way you want to play the game for sure - sometimes a tradeoff is very worth it for yourself

[winter crown]

its what i did too and do not regret

u have a good feeling of progressionn by goin all accs to VI then all VII etc allowing to move on a easiets way on late spots

[hollow blaze]

At this point of your gear, The frustration is Valid, Feeling stuck into gearing and doing the loop of grinding and clicking gear and failing. I was at this point of gearing as well, I pitied a TET to PEN Kharazad earring, This why I go Debo route, I enhanced them myself tho from base to PEN or buying DUO Debos and making my own TET Debo for PEN Debo Clicks, At this point of the game its about your mentality on how your gonna do things 🙂 And if you lay down the Plan, You have to commit to it.

The option to progress gradually through Kharazad is great, But either route your taking, The only way your gonna progress is putting it the hours and staying consistent. How I deal with burnouts? I do not grind at all Like 5 Days straight no grinding. Ill grind 2-3hrs when Agris is full then same thing 5 days again till full agris. If theres no special events like X of hours to get X Seals for exchanges. I just stay log out of game 🙂 Like staying away but logging in daily for the free stuff or doing the minimum amount of effort like weekly stuff to accumulate easy silver from Bosses, Dark rifts, Dungeons if your into that and Guild bosses

Other things you can do is try new Class, Treasure Hunts, Lifeskills, Roleplay? maybe PvPing, AOS is Great way to hone your PvP Skills on small scale, or just talking to random Adventurers in any Chat Groups

My mentality is this, As long as Im putting Hours, I'm healthy, I get to play the game 1-2hrs daily. Eventually I'm gonna get it

[odd cargo]

Just do whats right for you. I personally went pen debo. Dont stress for upgrades and enjoy your time playing

Helps tagging and playing other characters. Plus it gets easier the more gear you have. Income goes up

Atleast it worked for me

[dry wolf]

First of all, thanks! Is it a valid route too to enhance pen debos ? Never heard of this. And how do you approach this? With crons or without?

[dry wolf]

I am doing this at the side, a bit of gathering and alchemy but I dont want to invest hundreds of billions in preonne gear haha xD

[dry wolf]

The one thing what holds me away from trying other classes is the missing weight

[odd cargo]

Maids. Horse stack. Either or

I just have 80 maids. So I never was bothered by weights

But can horse stack

If u enhance debos yourself. Gl. Its raw tap only. No crons.

Gonna be real feast or famine

[hollow blaze]

Its all RAW Tapped, I made 5. I bought one. I made one before Kharazad came, and made four eraw tapped, How you go with these is just grind and tap, Its the same thing you do anyways with Kharazads or every other item. You can hoard like DUOS enhanced them to TETS and do a roulette to PEN. I might have or have not get them on discount if I just buy em, I didnt really track my progress. I just grinded, Buy and Tap, But either route your gonna need Failstacks. When I run out of PRI-DUO Stacks I bought DUOS I usually use 90-100 Stacks to TRI then 110+ Up for TET Attemps, You can even overstack it with 150 If you want to 🙂 Then PEN Attempts, You should always USE 300 Stack plus Valks, I did my journal so I can add up to 13 Valks and I have +1 Perma chance. This route is High Risk, High Reward no Guarantee. Its all in the Black Spirit hands.

BUT I always believed, You have to Believed and reflect into it, If you keep failing there is a BIG Chance the game will give it to you 🙂 People say the numbers will eventually even out. The positive and negative

[odd cargo]

But the disclaimer is. You can fail the next 200b befor u see profits

[hollow blaze]

Dude, I use TRI Manos Gear the 5X Free one, Just gotta buy 1 More to complete your accessory to keep doing some lifeskill stuff

[odd cargo]

Very easily

[hollow blaze]

Exactly 🙂 Or even 1 Trillion before it actually evens out

[odd cargo]

Yup

[hollow blaze]

So you have to know the Facts first before commiting

[odd cargo]

Its just about good mentality about playing. If you are desperate. Youll rage quit just as fast

[hollow blaze]

Exactly, and with the route I took. Oh Man, Like Multiple times I feel quitting just uninstall and leave the game, But I pushed through and as I said Eventually I got all of em

[odd cargo]

I was always fine with my route

I knew what heavy rng is like. 170b grind didnt seem bad at all

It wasn't. Only first 2 pen debos are long

Then became 1month. 2 weeks.

1.5weeks

[hollow blaze]

You can also mix it up with buying, Like selling TET Debos grind maybe the rest of it to buy something like that, Or you can take one of your accesorry The Kharazad Route

[hollow blaze]

Imagine me with my PEN Debo Necklace Or the older players who came before us

The amount of hours theyve put in to grind gor Bases, Tap all the way to PEN with use of Cron stones

That, I can't man. Thats why I left for like good 6mos once I got my Necklace

[odd cargo]

I got my necklace. Played fellowship for 2months. Then came back. Prosperous

[hollow blaze]

I was about to work on getting my Belt, and Ring. Ring was pretty new before when I got my Neck, pretty sure only way to get bases was from Limbo drops lol

Am like nah.

And TET Debos Before was 80B Im pretty sure and Max PEN Debo Price like 300B

@dry wolf This is my journey with my necklace. https://youtu.be/NiGqw8Z2tw4?si=6Wp5xezlB_vCwO0B There is no P2W Involved just consistency, Buying Crons from Vendor and getting lucky with PO from Market

[dry wolf]

Thank you very much!
May I ask which grind spot I Look for? Is it still tungrad or can i grind orzekia or edania?

[hollow blaze]

I actually grinded Dokkebi and Tungrad. Without agris, I go Tungrad and with Agris I use all of it in Dokkebi. Dokkebi is a little less now because the essence of dawn cut in half, But still a good money I'm pretty sure. You can funnel the faint of origin into making Higher stacks for TET Attempts either for selling or PEN Debo attempts, Orkezea is also good money make through the crystals or jus raw selling the Mats you get, For Edania spots its more like touch n feel at this gear, I grinded Nymphamere, but its constant moving and pressing buttons while dokkebi I can grind 2hrs straight without no problem even 3hrs with 5mins break in between.

Check the market, Garmoth is also really good source of averages in my opinion to check your numbers compare to others globally. Youve got quite a lot of options, Just gotta find the rhythm into grinding consistently and makin money to whatever goal you have atm. And dont forget to take breaks when 1 goal is reached