When is loot determined?

[chrome gazelle]

When you kill a mob, is the loot determined: 1) the moment it is dropped, or 2) the moment you pick it up? If it's the former, how is loot determined in a party scenario? i.e. if a party member (A) kills the mob but another member (B) loots it, is the loot type and quantity affected by the killer (A) and their drop rates?

[weak nest]

moment it's dropped

if my knowledge isn't outdated

[mint plover]

so far, i have never seen an answer to this question. It is a company secret. As far as we know , it could even be in the moment of monster spawn

however, the quantity can be influenced by the Amount modifier, so perhaps it could be a combination of some of the theories

[chrome gazelle]

Dang. For some reason I'd feel more comfortable leaving the loot behind if I knew it was generated on pickup xD

[weak nest]

Well leaving loot behind is silly anyway cuz you might miss something you've been grinding for

[lime vigil]

I wish PA would just get rid off the horrendous pet loot delay. Grinding at spots like CotD is full tilt mode for me.

At the very least, code it so the pets prioritize the rarest loot first so trash comes last. I don't wanna leave loot on the ground but I like to be efficient and move onto the next pack.

This has been living in my head rent free for years. It's a horrible gaming experience.

[fleet flicker]

I am not aware of any drastic loot system changes, so this ticket response should still be up to date.
In regards to party looting, people sometimes grind solo spots as duo and just switch back and forth between who picks up the loot. There is also the option to enable ordered looting in the party settings. ♥

[chrome gazelle]

This is a direct answer to the question. Thank you.

[chrome gazelle]

This is literally the catalyst for my question. Even with -15% cooldown reduction using T5 pet, I'm still standing around waiting for them to pick things up...

[chrome gazelle]

If the loot was generated on pickup, I'd be better off picking up more loot per minute than standing around waiting for loot to be retrieved. Now I feel like I have to wait around for loot to be claimed by slow pets since it's possible to leave rarer loot unclaimed as per Berrin's Ticket. Some people may feel differently, in a 'Monty Hall' sort of way.

[light drift]

The loot is generated after you or your pets interact with the lootable mob.

You can test this actually yourself with a friend.

Turn on your agris, kill the mob and let your friend loot it and see if the agris applies.. or kill the mob agris turned off and activate it before looting it...

Also "loot priority" is also just a telltale. I also experimented this... Thats why you should go slow when you at low gear reauired spots like polly, blood wolfs etc...

[crude iron]

You think a GM is lying in that post above? EDIT: But Isn't Agris consumed the moment you kill the mob? Or I guess that might be at the moment of the pick up possibly...

[light drift]

im not saying the GM is lying, i just wrote down what i experienced with some testing.

[chrome gazelle]

I guess the real solution would be to give allow us to use as many pets as we can aggro a mob... or to make the current ones faster. I don't understand why the make us wait. PA has increased the size of the mobs but not how quickly we can farm them. Feels silly.

[crude iron]

its to limited the gains we get from gameplay that doesn't require "p2w" items probably. Like if you grind debo spots, you want Crons to enhance them. But if you could grind as much and as fast as possible, there is no need to use the pearl shop outside of permanent items.

[chrome gazelle]

I don't think I understand what you're saying.

Pets are a Pearl item. If they allow us to use more pets, that would increase pet sales. I can tell you right now I'd be the first in line to purchase new pets if they allowed us to use more.

[crude iron]

Yeah, but you only need a set of 5 T4 pets.

[chrome gazelle]

The only thing I'm concerned about is the tempo of my grinding. I want to kill a mob and not have to stand around waiting for pets to pick up the loot. It's the feeling of not knowing what's on the ground that breaks the tempo for me. However they address it, whether it be by increasing the amount of summoned pets, decreasing the cool down on pets, or even reducing the amount of mobs that can be killed to reduce the excess.

[crude iron]

And most veterans already have dozens of T4 pets on the side lines for different content.

[crude iron]

I'd swap to a tougher spot if its too easy to kill the mobs. less waiting that way.

[chrome gazelle]

That's not enough. I have four T4 pets and one T5 pet and that's still not fast enough.

[crude iron]

And yes, we have been asking for more pets and more speed for years. We did get T5 pet in the last 2 years to help, but its not enough as you know

[crude iron]

Yes. I know.

[chrome gazelle]

I guess this is another solution xD

[crude iron]

That's how the game is designed really, but that won't really solve the issue because you'll most likely get less money that way if you aren't overgeared for the spot 😂

[chrome gazelle]

Exactly.

I guess if we've been complaining for years, my additional complaint won't lead to very much xD

[crude iron]

Unfortunately yes.

[lime vigil]

Just social engineer our grievances and blow it up in KR so Jae has no choice but to listen. Problem solved.