OU vs UTD for Surefire Safety Econ!

[desert burrow]

writing this to procrastinate act prep. input welcome 🤗

I'm trying to limit my list so I have to pick one

Schools: University of Oklahoma and University of Texas at Dallas
Intended major: Economics
Similarities: I believe they'd have a similar cost. OU has a generous NMSF that I believe I'll qualify for. UTD has a full tuition NM finalist scholarship (idk if I'll get that) plus some others I may qualify for though they're competitive, but I'm in-state so tuition isn't high anyway. They're similarly sized schools (18,564 vs 17,979) and public.

OU
Pros-
Not in Texas
Guaranteed scholarship
Technically higher ranked and I believe it has a better reputation
Oklahoma's flagship, so lots of resources.
accelerated Econ BA/MA with emphasis on big data huge pog
Cons-
Location. I prefer urban places and while Norman is close to OKC it looks like the most boring suburbia imaginable.
It's a football school so literally everyone and their mother wants to go there. I know no college is HS part two but this would be close.

UTD
Pros-
In-state tuition
Nerd school which I consider a plus because idk i like quirky people. This can be a con too (see below).
Location is more urban. Campus looks nice. (though Richardson is still the mf suburbs)
More diverse. OU is not bad on this front but 60% white so it has an overwhelming majority. UTD has a 40% asian plurality but no racial majority.
Cons-
Close enough that my mom can drive up whenever she wants to see me. So too damn close.
I want to leave Dallas and the connections will probably be very regional. OU probably has the same problem tbh but it is a flagship and UTD is not.
Commuter school. People say it's socially dead.
weeb population is too high smh ||https://www.reddit.com/r/utdallas/comments/v2ljqo/will_i_be_made_fun_of_if_i_bring_my_waifu_pillow/?ref=share&ref_source=link||

Tiebreaking considerations:
Which has better career opportunities, I guess.

[terse widget]

OU would have better career opportunities imo because its bigger

[desert burrow]

that's what I was thinking

[burnt prawn]

idk about econ but for CS at the very least, UTD is nice

Dallas has more work opportunities in general

wait if ur into econ @desert burrow, then top 6% public HS students should get guaranteed admission to UT

And a note on the "weeb population", look for the UTD discord, and go to their equivalent of the starboard ---- spoiler alert, it's very weird

[desert burrow]

I’m not top 6% I’m just barely top 10% 😩

[willow forge]

I think thats more a thing with discord people being strange than the college population

[burnt prawn]

https://admissions.utexas.edu/apply/decisions#fndtn-timing

Scroll to "Automatic Admission Decisions", and click the transfer admission tab to find the automatic transfer admission, which doesn't require top 6%

Transfer Admission

Some students who graduate from Texas high schools qualify for automatic transfer admission.

To be eligible, you must:

Have graduated from high school in 2008 or later

Qualify based on Texas law for automatic freshman admission to a Texas university

Enroll at a Texas community or junior college after you graduate from high school

Complete the core curriculum at a Texas public junior college or other Texas public or private lower-division institution of higher education

Earn a cumulative GPA of at least 2.5 on a four-point scale (or the equivalent)

Apply for transfer admission to a term no later than four years after the academic year (e.g. 2014-15) in which you graduated from high school

If you're down to going to a CC for 2 years (less if you have preexisting AP/other credits), that can work

If you strictly like UT more than UTD and OU and can accept going to CC for a period of time, that deal seems highly appealing

[burnt prawn]

Well, that's a really good point
Also mind grabbing some #810227815260618772?

[willow forge]

Uh yeah sure

[floral hare]

UT Dallas has a large discord server but idk if they’re open to prospectives

Although ngl their server can be kinda scary from what I’ve heard

[desert burrow]

Thanks! So the difference between this and CAP is that this is guaranteed and CAP is that every top 10% person can do this, right?

[desert burrow]

scary how? 😦

[burnt prawn]

Negative, CAP is available to everyone who's offered that program, while this guaranteed transfer is available only to those people who met the above conditions

[floral hare]

Just a wild server lol

[desert burrow]

I mistyped my question 🤦🏾‍♀️

[burnt prawn]

Also, from what I've gathered, you just need to qualify for automatic freshman admission to a Texas university, i.e., top 10%

[desert burrow]

I meant is cc transfer top 10%?

[burnt prawn]

It'll guarantee admission to liberal arts at the least

[burnt prawn]

Yes, that pathway should be open to everyone in top 10%

Ideally call UT admission before you make this your surefire safety option

You want to be absolutely clear on the terms there

Out of curiosity, @desert burrow how much math/CS do you want to study in your econ plan

UT is introducing a BS economics plan that allows for more focus on math/CS/stats

And also, are you after econ or business 👀 if you want to do this guaranteed econ transfer, it won't leave you much of any room to internally transfer to business school

[desert burrow]

ooh I’m into that. I like economic theory but ik quantitative skills are useful for career/grad school. Plus I just want to be able to learn how to do the analysis I read about in the news

close to no business interest tbh

[burnt prawn]

Yes, then most definitely look into their BS economics plan ---- it's not on their website yet but I can find a link later

[burnt prawn]

Oh that's not a problem, I just want to make sure you're not eyeing McCombs and using econ as a step in between

How many ap credits will you have

We can see if it's possible to squeeze a core complete by end of your first year in CC instead of 2 since BS Econ is likely a bit more time consuming

[desert burrow]

if I don’t drop any classes, 12

[burnt prawn]

12 AP classes? Nice

If you end up talking that route, I'm more than happy to helping you figure out the credits and such

Longhorns helping longhorns

[desert burrow]

Thanks! It all depends on how my decisions turn out. trying to go for debt free if possible so in-state is big

[burnt prawn]

True!

[desert burrow]

but OU scholarship is big too 👀 it just requires moving to an inferior state

[burnt prawn]

UT does tend not to give merit based scholarship though, so I can see why you want to consider OU or UTD for debt free possibilities

[burnt prawn]

Sobs

[vast badge]

Do you know of any other finance/econ/business programs at schools that have strong connections to CA/data science?

[burnt prawn]

https://utexas.app.box.com/s/dhpf12m5iyjg1txee1pe6oik5e791pko
For a compilation of computing/math-heavy econ programs, go to "Existing Programs" section of this document, starting at page 22

this obv doesn't include business, and I don't have a handy resource for that

Your best bet would still be a #954421825427865690 post

[vast badge]

This is exactly the kind of thing I wa slooking for. Thanks so much!

[burnt prawn]

No problem :)

Keep in mind that it will have some bias and inaccuracies in describing other programs (after all they're trying to sell a new degree to the authorities) so also look into programs in detail

but a good place to start for in terms of econ programs

[vast badge]

I'm mostly focused on going into finance after college. I know that both econ or business majors can go into finance depending on what they focus on.

[vast badge]

For sure

[burnt prawn]

Ah ic

As conditions permit, make UT part of your list, it's worth it 💯

Also grab some #810227815260618772

[vast badge]

Nice. Thanks again