I don't know what you decided to do, but I'd be cautious of using sudden interests to drive your long term decision making. People get interested in things all the time but the longevity of that interest is what's important. Just something to keep in mind. ask yourself "am I truly passionate about ocean science?" If you are I say go for it and live your dreams and do great things! 😉 Hope that helps if I'm not too late.
#Cornell vs UMiami & major confusion
hybrid star
silver junco
I agree with CEO here, a sudden whim can change your entire life, and as you don't have that much experience in marine bio yet, it just (personally) does not make sense to suddenly go from 1) an ivy to a T20 and 2) two completely different majors.
although actually this thread might be dead so... lol
^^^
Even in CS and whatnot, if you want to make more than 130k/yr, get a masters or PhD. You will be completely set at that point.
Especially for science majors, ending education with a Bachelor's just isnt the way to go, as in the span of a 4 year undergrad education you just do not learn enough content to prepare you for high paying jobs. Thats why many high-paying engineering jobs like EE or CE do slated hiring (i.e. if you have Bs, you may (this is all hyp.) need a min of 8yrs work experience, Masters 5 years, and PhD 0 years)
silver junco
or else they get bullied for "wasting money"
I want to say something to this because personally, it feels like thats a very...toxic attitude. I can't say that I know who your family is or what their look on higher ed or whatever is, but I can say that money should not be a driving factor for you. I think that's your mentality anyways; go to where you're passionate. But this sentiment is true in that if your outlook is only a BS, marine biology is, from my 10 minutes of research on Google, not worth the amount of prospected money you can make in the future. Architecture, on the other hand, will give you about a 20% increase in prospected salary at the same degree level. While the name of the game is "passion", the other is valuing your own time. If you value your time to X extent, will it be worth spending 4 years undergrad for $X salary prospect? What about 6 years for a masters for $Y more salary prospect? And I definitely can tell you, as my parents have gone through this situation, is that if you do something you're passionate in but make little money, it can get frustrating. Not saying unbearable or intolerable, just frustrating.
Now I also want to mention that I'm not trying to sway your mind to Architecture or Marine Bio, just want to give you perspective in making such a big decision. Life's full of them.
My best advice is, continue to do research on both Architecture and Marine Bio. Look into their job outlooks for the next 5, 10, 15 years. Look at the salary. Look at the QoL index. Look at the schools and education paths you have to take for each. But ultimately, ultimately choose something that if 10-year-older svod looks back, they'll realize they still had made the right choice. It's a hard thing to do to look into the future, But we live it one day at a time. You got this :)
OK that definitely was a lot of text. I hope some of it made sense?
tawny jetty
So I'm slated to enter Cornell in august majoring in architecture design, but I was wondering if I should do a complete 180 and major in marine bio and transfer to UMiami instead, one of the best schools for it
IDK what my odds are for getting in but I've taken a huge interest in ocean science lately and was wondering if it'd be worth the effort to completely change course
Any recommendations for what I should pursue? I'm kind of passionate in both fields, but I want $$$ so my family's happy too
hexed burrow
If u want money stay in cornell LOL
I know plently of rich architecture people
Not so much for marine biologists
tawny jetty
I know plently of rich architecture people
no u dont lol
architects work hard to make little
its a stereotype in stem
tawny jetty
what do u mean by more
hexed burrow
And u have a better chance of making it big
tawny jetty
an ideal salary for me is abt 80-100k but all i hear they make is 60k
hexed burrow
no u dont lol
I actually do-
tawny jetty
And u have a better chance of making it big
ibut im worried
what if im overworked and feel the money aint worth it
assuming i have money
marine bio feels like a thing thats always fun
hexed burrow
I agree
But you need more research
Ion know much abt marine bio, but some things seem more glamorous far away
Try like doing a research position for marine bio then decide
trim blaze
Can I suggest architecture in undergrad with a graduate degree in marine science specializing in underwater architectural systems? Could do some neat stuff.
tawny jetty
Can I suggest architecture in undergrad with a graduate degree in marine science...
huh
is this a joke
trim blaze
No?
trim blaze
Think of it as an applied science @tawny jetty in grad school you can specialize within disciplines into almost anything. If you enjoy marine science but want the security of architecture, you could look at questions like how do different architectural types affect marine ecosystem health, how does ocean water degrade different types of material, etc.
tawny jetty
this sounds like a bullshit major
tbh
those are research paper topics not fields of study
trim blaze
Yeah, it’s not a major. That’s how graduate studies work.
You specialize within a large overarching subject; ie specializing in architectural studies within ocean science.
So you’d be in a “Marine Science” program in a MS/PhD capacity and be studying those specific parts of it.
tawny jetty
oh thats for masters
lol why would i want a masters degree
my cousin makes 130k with a bachelors in cs from a C tier uni
trim blaze
Because you want to specialize?
I’m just answering your question. You will have a very hard time trying to get a “good” job in a research field like marine science without an advanced degree.
junior crater
architects work hard to make little
this
they get saddled with projects and get stressed making turnover rather high
tawny jetty
so whats the use
why dont we all do cs
i shouldve sold my soul for money
smh
my moms not gonna understand this concept even tho my dad had a doctorate
everyone in my family either goes into cs or med schoool
or else they get bullied for "wasting money"
like my cousin majoring in sociology who works for PBS now
but makes half as much as my other cousin in cs
they live in the same city
Alexandria VA
junior crater
small job market too