#Bowdoin vs Washington and Lee (PLEASE help)
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major: econ, poli sci, or comp sci
cost: both are comfortably affordable (almost full rides) i want to think of this without price as a factor because one does cost more but i don’t want that to sway my decision
Bowdoin Pros:
- more prestigious
- small tight-knit community
- better dorms
- slightly better food
- prettier campus
- more outdoors events
- no greek life
- the students seem happy from youtube vids??
Bowdoin Cons:
- weather (i come from an extremely cold environment already, kind of wanted a change but it’s not a deal breaker)
- doesn’t seem to have many on-campus events?
- fairly dead party culture. ivies (their supposed best concert) seemed so dead 😭
- less chance for internship opportunities
W&L Pros:
- spring terms (4 week terms where students focus in on one class/project + often with a trip abroad!)
- experiential learning (washington term where there’s an internship to dc, investment banking internships)
- mock convention (seems fun and unique)
- weather (warmer)
W&L Cons:
- EXTREME party culture. frats DOMINATE the social scene.
- only 3% intl population with low minority group populations. more rich white people (potential for racism — i’m east asian lol )
- secluded (and less close to nicer cities, so less to do)
- less recognition + prestige? idk they’re about the same ish
i would prefer a middle type party scene tbh but i ended up with the 2 extremes sadly.
I’m extremely indecisive. I genuinely really need help. i’m so confused about w&l’s social science. especially since i can’t find a single w&l student making youtube videos about the school
i care about being happy during college (this includes everything from partying to weather) but i also care about getting internship opportunities and the uni’s abilities to help me eventually work in the US.
bowdoin imo
why would u say less internship opportunities at bowdoin vs WL
not sure if u know this but bowdoin is actually closer to boston than WL is to washington DC
how often would u even party anyways lol
it sounds like you like Bowdoin more
yeah i just figured that out
the spring term is so alluring tho 😭 but ik it’s only 4 weeks of the entire experience
and also i’m scared about deflation at bowdoin tbh
if i ever want to try to transfer that is
im pretty sure it has inflation lol
it does? all ik is that you can very barely use the pass/fail option at bowdoin
so that makes it really tricky
yea the average gpa should be around a 3.4
isn’t that from a really long time ago tho? the current students say bowdoin makes it hard 😦
but thank u sm for all ur help thus far
yea but the longterm trend for most schools is going up anyways
and each student has a diff experience
like what major they take
honestly i should just go w my gut and my gut has been saying bowdoin for awhile now
the thing is i didn’t research into w&l very well
and i didn’t even give it a chance until i freaked out today
im sure u will be fine if u are happy and u work hard at either of these two
i get how u feel LOL
i literally didn’t even know spring terms existed 😭😭 it’s the first thing on the “academics” thing
and i got the johnson scholar at w&l too
so the full ride is kinda hard to pass up
oh nice!
but meh bowdoin is affordable and that’s all that matters
which part of asia r u from btw
WL is like 70% white
not sure if u would be comfortable with that
east asia/mongolia
oiccc
cuz i applied to them lmao
oh lmao gotcha, where are you committing now if u don’t mind me asking?
bowdoin was in my top 5 at one point and i was finna apply ed2
boston college
i actually applied there last minute cuz i had a slot left LOL
woaaah congrats bro fr
i also applied to bowdoin last minute to the point where i didn’t even remember applying 😭
weird how things turn out
i’m now infinitely glad i applied
i wasnt seriously considering before last month lmao
boston was my ideal city
shall visit often!! ahah
also btw do uk anything about UK schools? my next decision will be between bowdoin and ucl
but i think u should just go w ur gut cuz the differences in the long-run with these 2 colleges will be marginal at best
oh yea ik about UCL
why what about it
UCL or bowdoin would u say?
these lacs rank so lowly on the world rankings my parents are giving me so much shit 💀
is there a cost difference
between ucl and bowdoin
commit to bowdoin for now imo
so if i get that scholarship
u have time to decide
yes yes i’m 100% committing for now
but keep in mind the ranks of LACs are low
cuz they are focused on the undergrad experience
and not pumping out research output
that’s what i keep telling themmm ahaha
but it’s pretty crazy how bowdoin’s ranked like 20-40 in the US
but 1100 in the world 😭
have u ever been?
and the weather seems a bit gloomy
yea a couple times
i also have like a dozen friends studing highschool in london and they are all tryna move out lol
but overall its a p good city, just couldn't envision myself staying there long-term
do take into consideration
that if u go to ucl
ur major will be extremely specialized
and u will have little room to explore
other academic interests
within ur course
very true
and i’m very undecided tbh
i got accepted into the course social sciences and data science
which incorporates econ poli sci and comp sci
but idk tbh they say u can transfer courses
so thank u for the heads up, shall definitely keep it in mind
oh congrats!
imo
if u go to either WL or bowdoin cuz ur still undecided
and u find the major ur passionate about
u can transfer more easily to another institution that will allow u to specialize
cuz of how US colleges work
oh that is true
but i also heard that the whole prestige hopping thing with transfers barely work
cause you have to have a VALID reason
a valid reason is that bowdoin/WL wont let u take more courses in ur intended major etc
or going from a b or a tier college to the ivies is seen as stupid (which i kinda get tbh)
true 🤨
i shall see
you’re a us citizen right?
oh whaaat from where?
and i thought that boston college didn’t give aid? are u full pay?
im a malaysian citizen but ethnically chinese+some random east/central asian
yea they dont give aid so unfortunately im full pay
there’s barely any financial aid for intls esp when transferring 😦 but we shall see if i even hate it enough
im lucky that my parents are willing and able to pay though
yea that is very true
but u can get into some great grad programs from LACs
if u want to specialize
ik an alum from my highschool who went to ithaca college
for physics
now shes at northwestern phd
i don’t think i want to go to grad school tbh
oic
but getting a work visa is so annoyingly complicated
its not for everyone
yea it is
do u wanna live in the US?
yes lol
marriage it is 🤩
i wouldnt risk full pay if i didnt want to 
hahaha
fr
thats the most straightforward route
but also the hardest
yeah gotta fall in love during college fr
yea and bowdoin is cuffing season every season cuz its so cold 
the UK is making it marginally easier for u to remain after graduation
if immigration is one of ur goals
but canada is always an option from the usa
i wish uoft gave me a bigger scholarship
i think i might’ve preferred uoft over bowdoin with it’s guaranteed visa
did u apply to canada at all? or was it 100% US all the way?
yea i did
i applied to uoft, western and queens in canada
they were all hella stingy
man how many schools did u apply to? ahah
with scholarships
like 25 in total lol
i just wanted to see where i could end up
canada was hella tempting
for the ez visa
RIGHT
really? uoft is p dooming w deflation tho
like its actually legit deflation and not the us "deflation"
the us visa is very contingent upon social factors and being mid looking does not help
oh true
3 of my friends are going to uoft
yep lul
oh noice
idk uoft
is like bama
but canadian
ok ok i’m gonna deny all my other unis rn
i’m weirdly inclined to say i’m going to like the university of mississippi when they ask where i committed
#messuptheirdata lmaooo
u should make an excel sheet imo and discuss w ur parents ur final options
and also make them wonder, are we worse than the uni of mississippi🤨🤨
lmfaooo
fr fr
decline harvard 😈
my parents have been saying bowdoin for awhile
i tried to convince them of urochester
but as an econ major u should weigh up these opportunity costs 
but it costs 13k more
and maximize ur utility
oh nice rochester
so despite me liking it’s environment
it is not 13k better than bowdoin yk
cuz bowdoin is a steal if its close to a full ride
13k a year MORE than bowdoin
oh shiddd
bowdoin’s actually not that close to a full ride tbh
yea they are basically on the same level anyways
true and they’re giving a free macbook, ipad and apple pencil 😩😩
lmaoo me justifying things
sheesh 🔥 😈
even tho that’s only like 3k in the grand scheme of things
man an actual full ride sounded really smexy tho
i was gonna even email and ask them to give me money for plane tickets lmaooo
getting greedy
imo they probably spend more on u than u do on them
ok denying drexel first because they suck at aid
yea drexel just sucks period
kinda random but i was finna apply to the UK armed forces last year LOL
thought my fam was broke asf
and couldnt afford college
lmao but then u found out y’all can actually pay 60-80k a year? 😭
damn do ur parents act like ur broke or smth
yea i was like wtf 💀
yea they are hella frugal
F umich
u dont even have to reply to them
true
hahaha
u do got the power 💪
MY TURN
F
and yes
sadge i feel bad for denying grinnell
durham, exeter, edinburgh, and sheffield
they were the only school who gave me a reasonable cost of attendance
oh nice
idk which ones i would go to if i got off
could u by any chance tell me anything about the ones uk?
i am very uneducated about these schools 😭
almost full need intl shotgunning so
sure
how did u get into your schools without research 💀
i feel like only the top 3 are better than bowdoin
i find all, replace all my why us essays lowkey 💀
template AF
top 3 are better than bowdoin 100%
id say hamilton, wes and grinnel are on the same level
hmm interesting
maybe i should consider based on fit then
bro pls pray for me
really wanna get off any of the 3 waitlists
🙄prestige whore🙄
fr fr
they not only said i wouldn’t get off but it was one of the MOST negative responses i could’ve gotten 😭😭
F
they said “NO WAY IN HELL ARE U GETTING OFF”
ok whatever tarot card reading is jack shit anyways 🤬
my friend did it on me
but i own cards
ima become a really good tarot card reader after my ap exams fr
oh lmfao
i’ll do a reading on u if you want
ahahaha ok i’ll let u know whenever i figure it out
the cards are so aesthetically pleasing tho
lmao i love how everyone can read all our convos if they wanted to
fr fr
lmao nobody ever uses this channel anyways
why did u apply to the USA and UK from mongolia btw
i thought a lot of mongolians go to japan and stuff for college
wait how’d you know that??
a lot cause i used to romanticize the US way too much
now not so much
but i still want to go to a school w school spirit and a social life
and the US seemed like the best option for that
a bunch of my cousins going to jp from like central asia so i assume it’s popular lul
icic that is very true
esp the social life part LOL
yooo just committed oh my god @desert junco
i kinda regret it what??
ugh stupid paranoia brain
but wow
that feels weird
congrats!
issok there will always be a bit of regret if u have to choose between so many good options