All Liberal Arts Colleges (LACs) (2025-2026)

[lilac coyote]

hmm

that is true

but I feel like because I was an international with like

zero connections to us admissions

I had no confidence in my stats

I can't help but feel I kinda lowballed myself

[rose ruin]

meeee

[upper glade]

u applied as transfer?

[lilac coyote]

no no

all rd

[upper glade]

ah

[lilac coyote]

mostly state schools

i wanted to apply to schools like haverford but i didn't

I only applied to reed cuz they extended their deadline

for some reason

and I wrote my paideia in like

literally a day

[graceful estuary]

is anyone here knowledgeable about grinnell? i like most things about the school but the location feels so terrible. its in the middle of nowhere in iowa ffs. but then again im international so i dont know anything for sure. is the school worth the horrible location? im majoring in biochem

[muted cloud]

Hey bro, I'm in an admitted student group chat with over 50 people. Do you wanna join? Surely someone will be able to help you.

It's on IG

[graceful estuary]

umm im not sure how committed i am to grinnell rn so i dont know if i wanna join. dont get me wrong i was genuinely surprised i got into quite a highly selective school but there are factors im a bit afraid of

[muted cloud]

Dude its just for admitted students, I'm not committed either

[graceful estuary]

ykw thanks send me the link ill check out the group

[fickle tundra]

@graceful estuary which country are u from

[graceful estuary]

im vietnamese

[fickle tundra]

Damn congo

So many viet in this sever

[muted cloud]

I DMed you

[graceful estuary]

yea lol we are a very populous country

[fickle tundra]

@graceful estuary what were ur stats and ecs for grinnell

@muted cloud can u tell grinnell to take me off from waitlist

😔😔

[muted cloud]

LMAO

Not sure if they'd listen to me

[fickle tundra]

I would love to attend

[muted cloud]

Gon be honest

[crude shadow]

thats crazy? this makes me thankful for the W&L Promise

full tuition below 150k usd in income

[muted cloud]

can you relay the message to the W&L admissions committee that they FUCKING SUCK 🔥

anyway

[graceful estuary]

um ngl my ECs were pretty standard, not bad just standard. i had a hospital shadowing and lab internship which prob were the highlights, but i do have activities about playing guitar and sports to make it well rounded. i had a 5 on AP bio and chem, 5A* for IGCSE and 4A for AS level plus 3A* predicted A levels, and 1550 SAT. i think my academics really carried me here, cus my essay at the time of submission wasnt great either, i think.

[muted cloud]

I'm still pissed off about them

[tough mantle]

Hey don’t be mean

[crude shadow]

🥺

[muted cloud]

I'm not being mean about the school

Just the admissions staff

Great school yo

[fickle tundra]

What school is a&l

W&l

[crude shadow]

Washington and Lee

[muted cloud]

bro is genuinely cracked lmfao

[fickle tundra]

Those stats are insane

[fickle tundra]

You are from which country

[crude shadow]

they are international, you HAVE to be cracked to get in

[crude shadow]

Pakistan

[graceful estuary]

nah i got rejected ed1 to tufts and ed2 to vandy, plus i got deferred then waitlisted at CWRU (which i was REALLY hoping for), and also rejected from swat and williams

[muted cloud]

Tbf Grinnell tries to have like 20 percent of their class be INTL at once.

I'm sure the rates are still mad low

[fickle tundra]

Where did u ed

[graceful estuary]

my only good acceptances atp is rutgers HC villanova and grinnell lmao

[crude shadow]

thats pretty high, damn

[crude shadow]

Washington and Lee

[muted cloud]

But they do have a good portion of INTL students

[tough mantle]

I think Davidson is about half that

[glossy lagoon]

🇻🇳 mentioned

[glossy lagoon]

Not standard

Most people dont get internships

[magic coral]

most of my ecs were internships

[muted cloud]

My like only ec worth a shit was a summer internship

[crude shadow]

same for W&L, around 9%

[magic coral]

they arent that rare

[midnight garnet]

mine were also internships

[magic coral]

tho im intl + aid + cs so im still yk

[graceful estuary]

yea i dont think its avg but its pretty much reqs for top colleges including grinnell. i didnt apply to any ivies if that makes sense

[midnight garnet]

one was machine learning w/ fish and other was somewhat "prestigous" (in air quotes)

most of the alumni went to t10-50s or ivy

also had one of apple's senior engineers speak to us

[glossy lagoon]

Not in Viet

[graceful estuary]

are u viet?

[magic coral]

fair

[glossy lagoon]

Yes

I fucking hate living in a small city

Theres nothing to do for teenagers

[graceful estuary]

ngl the asian culture really makes it difficult to get good ECs, but on the other hand most kids are cracked academically

[glossy lagoon]

You cant do part time j*bs

You cant do internships cause theres none

[midnight garnet]

what about olympaids?

[graceful estuary]

when i got 1510 sat on the first time that was 97th pctile globally, but 89th pctile nationally

[glossy lagoon]

Very few people gwt olympiads

[glossy lagoon]

Im pretty sure its not

[midnight garnet]

they're getting cheating gang

[graceful estuary]

yea but ill also count that as academics, im talking abt like research or internship stuff

[glossy lagoon]

Its something like 98

[midnight garnet]

amc was a bloodbath this year

😭

[graceful estuary]

nah it was on my college board score summary so i think its legit

[midnight garnet]

perfect score for distinct honor roll

[glossy lagoon]

What mine said 98%

[crude shadow]

😨

[graceful estuary]

it is a bit skewed because most kids who take SAT in vietnam are at least decent because they want to study abroad tho

[glossy lagoon]

I have way worse ECs than you rip

[midnight garnet]

russian roulette ahh application

[graceful estuary]

no way 1510 is 98th sat is inflated now

[glossy lagoon]

But my bro who got marginally worse ECs and SAT got into Dickinson

Idk how coklege app even work

[muted cloud]

Holistic review

[glossy lagoon]

Well my score was last year so maybe

[magic coral]

luck

[midnight garnet]

my school's average is like 960

[glossy lagoon]

He did pay for college consultancy tho

[midnight garnet]

most europen/asian countries have higher sat scores

[glossy lagoon]

Asian momentos

[graceful estuary]

at a certain acp rate it does become more or less random or at least arbitrary in how they compare students. its hard to compare college apps ngl

[muted cloud]

I got into schools in here that other people didn't who have like WAY better stats than me

[graceful estuary]

oh god

[muted cloud]

LACs are very holistic

[midnight garnet]

these kids have been prepping for college since 3rd grade

kumon

• aops

programs

[glossy lagoon]

I got rejected from all LACs so far

[magic coral]

same

[glossy lagoon]

All i have left are ivies

[magic coral]

WE are cooked

[midnight garnet]

there was like one freshman I knew who did calc ab freshman year in my sister's high school

[graceful estuary]

yea which made my acceptance to grinnell even more confusing, i didnt even show much interest i submitted the optional supplement like 2 months after i submitted my app lmao

[glossy lagoon]

You have great stats alr

Its pretty well rounded if u ask me

[muted cloud]

I didn't do the optional supplement at all 😭

[glossy lagoon]

Ur good enuff for bowdoin brau

[vocal schooner]

Could be because you're the only few Vietnamese student applying to Grinnell

[muted cloud]

I saw another Vietnamese guy committed a few days ago

[glossy lagoon]

Hes definitely not 2 of my classmates did

[graceful estuary]

ehh true though in my impression there are quite a few viets at grinnell, one of the featured alumni on their website is viet actually

[glossy lagoon]

And we are from a school where theres like 10 guys who know what a LAC is

[glossy lagoon]

Theres a ton of them on linkedin

[muted cloud]

Grinnell is VERY heavy in DEI.

That's a good thing for people like you though

[graceful estuary]

lol i think u def shouldve done it, mine was so rough but i got in anyways. i think the most valuable u could get out of submitting it is really just to show interest

[glossy lagoon]

The school that ive seen the least viet at is davidson

[vocal schooner]

Or maybe they think they can yield you 🤷

[glossy lagoon]

And amherst

[muted cloud]

I mean

I got in with merit

clearly it didn't kill me too much

[glossy lagoon]

Historically theres ljke 2 viet at those schools

[vocal schooner]

For some context I got accepted to Davidson as a need-seeking international but rejected from Grinnell.

[graceful estuary]

oh i thought u didnt get in my bad twin

[glossy lagoon]

Probably yield protected

[muted cloud]

Nah ur good lol

[graceful estuary]

ngl i woulda liked davidson more lmao the location for grinnell just seems so rough rn

[vocal schooner]

I don't know honestly

yield protection is a bit iffy haha

But perhaps

[tough mantle]

Davidson’s location has got to be so peak being next to Charlotte

I don’t wanna live in Iowa

[vocal schooner]

indeed

[graceful estuary]

ong

[glossy lagoon]

How many school do u have left

[vocal schooner]

Davidson was my second choice 🥹

It'll always have a special place in my heart

[glossy lagoon]

Davidson tricked me

[graceful estuary]

i have wesleyan and rice left, plus 3 waitlists brandeis cwru and denison, though out of them i only really care about CWRU cus theyre like t10 for biochem undergrad. though if i get into either wesleyan or rice i deffo wouldnt go to grinnell

[glossy lagoon]

They gave me a likely letter in a drean but did not accept me

[vocal schooner]

Did you get finalist for freeman Asian

[muted cloud]

Balright

[glossy lagoon]

Gl bro

[graceful estuary]

thanks u got any left?

[graceful estuary]

what is that lol

[vocal schooner]

Full ride Wesleyan scholarship

For SEA applicants

[glossy lagoon]

I have wesleyan vassar dartmouth and lawrence uni

Probably all rejected

[upper glade]

I think im goin to gate

[graceful estuary]

oh no i didnt even know it lmao might be a big fumble

[upper glade]

its auto nomination

[graceful estuary]

do u have any good acceptance yet

[graceful estuary]

oh

cool

[glossy lagoon]

Only safeties

[vocal schooner]

It’s automatic consideration don’t worry

[vocal schooner]

Ooooo

Let’s gooo

[graceful estuary]

but i mean idek if im admitted yet wesleyan is like 6.4% for intl last year

[vocal schooner]

Are your parents alright with it

[glossy lagoon]

Ucincinnati UT Arlington and Texas State

[upper glade]

gotta appeal for aid tho

[graceful estuary]

ah gl with the rest then dartmouth might be hella tuff

[upper glade]

yuh we recently sold out house with good return

but we'll see how much we can get more

and other results

[glossy lagoon]

Thanks bro i offered my right ball to the devil for dartmouth

Lets see if i get in

[muted cloud]

How would you be class of 2032?

[upper glade]

like I'm p sure Amherst/ND will have way better offers

[upper glade]

national service

2 years

[crude shadow]

def not, for international aid seekers, theres practically no diff in difficulty betwen the T20 LACs

and Davidson isn't THAT much more selective than Grinnell

[upper glade]

This^^

[crude shadow]

literally 14% vs 13%

[graceful estuary]

they might need the other one too ngl

[crude shadow]

military service

[glossy lagoon]

I alr offered the other one to Davidson but they didnt take me

[crude shadow]

iirc he was korean? or singaporean?

[muted cloud]

I know Grinnell likes to keep 20 percent of their class INTL though. They have a pretty high ratio

[upper glade]

korean

[glossy lagoon]

Shouldve applied grinnel damn

My list was rather cooked

[crude shadow]

still, Grinnell is just as selective as davidson

[rustic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/satono-diamond-uma-musume-lick-licking-gif-1120995586170710369

[muted cloud]

Why are only the INTL kids up it's 10 in the fucking morning

[crude shadow]

AAAAAAAAAA

[upper glade]

lmfao

[crude shadow]

7 pm for me

[upper glade]

10pm

[glossy lagoon]

Most people go to school for mormimg

9pm for me

[muted cloud]

its

a sunday

[crude shadow]

sunday

[upper glade]

in church idk

[crude shadow]

😭

[glossy lagoon]

What if they are touching grass

[upper glade]

I gotta get built for rush at 'gate

[rustic sleet]

Sunday school

[glossy lagoon]

I havr a literature and english test for tmr

[muted cloud]

Admissions Officer at Grinnell must have genuinely pitied me bro

[glossy lagoon]

But cant study

[muted cloud]

[upper glade]

bouta be a Sigma Chi legend

[glossy lagoon]

Pls dartmouth i need a pity

Surely common app would have a pity system rite

Even honkai had it

[vocal schooner]

Yep

that's what I think as well

Just a "lottery" atp

Maybe Grinnell had many full-pay Singaporeans

who knows

[upper glade]

yeah depends on what schools r lookin for

[upper glade]

idt it would be a popular choice there

[glossy lagoon]

I think ur AO was distracted while reading your app because he was busy looking at a blue butterfly

[crude shadow]

no one would full pay for grinnell bro

😭

[upper glade]

SG has way more competition in the ivies as u mentioned b4

like NUS prolly has better outcomes in terms of QoL than most LACs

[crude shadow]

only LACs id full pay for, IF I COULD, would be like Williams and Amherst,

[upper glade]

ykwim

[graceful estuary]

full pay in their financial letter was 97k lmao

[crude shadow]

W&L was 104k bro, WHO IS PAYING THIS

😭

[graceful estuary]

alr bro wtf

104 is diabolical

[tough mantle]

Davidson was 95k

[fickle tundra]

Tbh full pay makes sense if it's USC, duke or Emory type colleges but I don't think people are paying that much for LACs

[crude shadow]

most people wouldn't full pay emory either tbh, Duke def.

[muted cloud]

Three words

[vocal schooner]

Oh damn

What’s the other 7k

[muted cloud]

White
&
Loaded

[crude shadow]

personal costs i guess

[vocal schooner]

Wow

[fickle tundra]

Lol

[vocal schooner]

What’s ure aid amount

[crude shadow]

76k

[vocal schooner]

Actually can you send the full financial aid package

Usually the work - study covers the indirect costs

[crude shadow]

direct cost is like 21k

[vocal schooner]

But it seems like the indirect costs is 7k

[tough mantle]

Dang 21K

[crude shadow]

is that high?

[tough mantle]

That’s my family’s income 😭

[crude shadow]

my moms income is like around 130k, I think 21k is fair

[tough mantle]

Dang

[faint sleet]

appeal it

no point in not

[upper glade]

real

[vocal schooner]

You can try to appeal, wouldn't hurt

[crude shadow]

I already committed

it was ED

[vocal schooner]

You can appeal next year then

😆

4 years 4 tries

[upper glade]

bruh I'd die for 21k/yr

like

[vocal schooner]

That's interesting

6.3k in indirect expenses

Maybe they give higher estimates

For Davidson/Bates/ND it was all 3.2k

[crude shadow]

Im pretty sure the cost is like very fair, cuz below 150k is full tuition off,

i got full tuition and a bit more over that.

[upper glade]

colgate

[crude shadow]

Why the letter so ugly bro

😭

yeesh, get a designer colgate

[upper glade]

I expected full tuition minimum lmfao

[upper glade]

nah the full letter looks better

[vocal schooner]

Davidson

[upper glade]

I gotta check my CSS again like

we mightve messed up somewhere

[vocal schooner]

Oerhaps

[glossy lagoon]

My family makes 22k a year

[muted cloud]

I can send my financial aid offers I'm considering rn

[rustic sleet]

damn bro

https://tenor.com/view/pewdiepie-brofist-gg-gif-27128168

[muted cloud]

The "debt" number assumes that none of the outstanding costs are paid without loans which obviously isn't true lol

These are my 3 on my spreadsheet

[vocal schooner]

Yoooo

[glossy lagoon]

Insanely gud

[vocal schooner]

Insane

[muted cloud]

That's similar to my richmond offer

[tough mantle]

Yeah it’s pretty Fire

[muted cloud]

My richmond offer is also around 3k net price per year

[glossy lagoon]

Damnnn

[muted cloud]

And then I get

[glossy lagoon]

Thats lit

[muted cloud]

2500 work study

[glossy lagoon]

Should i gap year nd reapply sjdjsjdnsjdjdj

[tough mantle]

I’d go to the cheapest school you can

Then maybe transfer

[glossy lagoon]

Transfering into LACs are nigh impossible

[muted cloud]

So long as you do stuff during your gap year to enrich your application

[glossy lagoon]

My cheapest school is around 20k

[muted cloud]

Colleges HATE seeing a year stagnant

I had considered a gap year because all of my good classes are in my senior year and my GPA woulda been higher + I woulda had more time to get ECs

But I decided I wanted to get the fuck away from home

[glossy lagoon]

If I did a gap year id probably just do more ECs like MUNs and comps

And run a business

[upper glade]

bro wtf

our income reported on CSS is like sub 100k

no significant assets

how tf is colgate asking for 45k

[muted cloud]

So long as you can support what that business does with measureables

A top mistake on applications is saying you run a business/startup and then it has zero measureables or metrics

[glossy lagoon]

Can i still apply undergraduate if I enrolled st a college in my country

[upper glade]

common practice in KR bc of semester schedule differences but if you complete 1st yr no

[glossy lagoon]

I see

So i get one more chance

[crude shadow]

:3

[upper glade]

but like u alr applied

so its basically a gap yr

[crude shadow]

W&L supremacy RAHHHHHH

COULDN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE W&L PROMISE 🤬 😎

[upper glade]

shouldve applied smh

[vocal schooner]

What about Notre Dame’s 🥹

[crude shadow]

they have a promise :p?

[vocal schooner]

A commitment

Or a pathway I guess

HAHAHAH

They came up with their own terminology

[crude shadow]

for W&L its 150k for full tuition, and below 75k = free

[vocal schooner]

Yep around the same

[fringe topaz]

must be why my friend is getting 0 acceptance

his startup has been dead silent for a month or 2

[muted cloud]

Colleges get very sussed out by startups and time spent on them if there's no results

So if he says he puts x number of hours into the startup

And he has like 30 followers or something

They aren't really inclined to believe him

[upper glade]

nah they dont rlly care bro

I mean some schools verify

but others dont

like

this girl that got into brown ED in my region

her startup's IG had like 70 followers

[muted cloud]

I mean I'm parroting Gohar and what he said on his podcast

Obviously depends on the school though

[upper glade]

yeah

[muted cloud]

EVERYTHING depends on the school

[fringe topaz]

ivys please let me in

[upper glade]

but like ppl with fakeass nonprofits and fine ass college counseling go on to top schools

[fringe topaz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1103709273533468783/1460785903294222493/togif.gif

[upper glade]

harsh world

[muted cloud]

I'm so glad I didn't dump money into that nonsense

[fringe topaz]

my opp in class got into urichmond while i dont and his entire cv just feels fake and all the nonprofits made for college application

[muted cloud]

I should give you my spot just so you can beat him up

[midnight garnet]

lol

[muted cloud]

I hate mfs like that

[fringe topaz]

he pmo

[midnight garnet]

I love looking at t-10s and ivy admits nonprofits

[muted cloud]

You should tell me his name so I can avoid him like the plague if I go there LMAO

[fringe topaz]

he's second most hated in class

[midnight garnet]

either the page is down or hasnt been updated since they got in

[fringe topaz]

cause all he do is scroll linkedin

and ignore most class activities

[crude shadow]

I'm closeby ill beat him up for u 🤬

[upper glade]

I KNOW

they still have it on their linkedin

ffs

[fringe topaz]

dear ivy aos in a2c if there are any if you see this i DO NOT CONDONE ANY VIOLENCE!!!!

[fickle tundra]

tbh i realised college admission is scam, somone can literally pay $$$$$ to conselor and build entire ivy aah profile

to get into top college

[fringe topaz]

true

[fickle tundra]

for intl students you will be literally discriminated on the basis of feeder shcool like UWC type shit

its over if you cant pay

for feeder school

[upper glade]

there are entire services that charges six figures to forge everything, from online school transcripts to ECs that gets ppl into t15s

[fickle tundra]

those private schools

[upper glade]

its an unfair world and we gotta live with it

[fickle tundra]

i mean do they accept my parents to sell their home to get me into private feeder school

[muted cloud]

It's capitalistic for sure. Schools like money. Unfortunately with the current system we NEED those rich kids to help us lowly middle classers though

[fickle tundra]

i mean its fine to admit full pay but ban college counselling

[fringe topaz]

theres a counselling company here notoriously known for faking profiles

[muted cloud]

My ex enrolled in online school because "in person was too harddd" and it's genuinely chatGPT academy.

[fickle tundra]

let them figure out process themselves

[muted cloud]

Online school is so depressing and easy it's absurd

[fickle tundra]

do ecs instead of fake shit

[upper glade]

there's no way colleges can verify if private counseling was involved or not

[muted cloud]

Those kids flunk out when they actually get to school though. That's why colleges analyze way more for character than anything else.

[upper glade]

the only solution is a fully meritocratic system which also has its own flaws

[muted cloud]

Or making college equally accessible to everyone but that also comes with the drawback of a college education losing it's inherent value

[upper glade]

*colleges with elite brand names

I think the german model is probably the best

[muted cloud]

The system has to stay walled for it to be valuable, otherwise something new will come along and college will become prerequisite

[upper glade]

I mean it already is to be employed in an office job

[fringe topaz]

i hope interviews can be a lot more common to fact check profiles

[upper glade]

the value of a college degree has fallen significantly more than anything over the last few decades

[muted cloud]

No, I mean like high school. If it's available to everyone then it'll become expectation, and even HIGHER education will become the bar

[upper glade]

but then private services will prepare students for lying better lmao

[muted cloud]

We already see that in motion with CC being so looked down upon

And private schools hardly taking CC credits

[fringe topaz]

true... but its a small step forward i hope

[upper glade]

I mean if you think abt it holistic admissions were born from racist motivations

its inherently flawed

[muted cloud]

Technically DEI policy is racial discrimination, if we really wanna dig deep into it

But that's a whole other debate

[upper glade]

and its not allowed here lol

[muted cloud]

Yeah, just spitballing

[upper glade]

bruh whatever

absurd world we live in

[keen granite]

colgate ‘32 💔

[muted cloud]

Military

[keen granite]

oh that’s my bad

[fringe topaz]

only lac left is wesleyan

[keen granite]

i thought it was like a meme or smth

[muted cloud]

Is because you have to do required service where you're from? @upper glade

[fringe topaz]

souldiggler can i have your blessing

[keen granite]

i believe

[muted cloud]

Same here brotha

[upper glade]

yes

[keen granite]

yes ofc i give you my blessing 🫡🙏

[keen granite]

i give you my blessing too 🫡

[muted cloud]

Appreciate you bro

🫡

[keen granite]

ofc igu 🙏

[fickle tundra]

pls vandy accept me

pls duke

pls nw

[fringe topaz]

still pissed that wesleyan doesnt allow intl seeking aid to apply ed 😭

[muted cloud]

Diabolical

Did you apply ED anywhere

?

[fringe topaz]

dartmouth

i got deffered there

so i have a tiny bit of hope next week

maybe just maybe...

[upper glade]

bum school

[muted cloud]

I was lwk gonna apply there but the dude running our info session was an obnoxious twat

You know its awful when ONE man can turn me off from a whole school

[fringe topaz]

im lowk stocking up luck

i got 3 lucky milk carton and 3 lucky water bottle on my desk

and some lucky money in the ipad case

cause i view my decision with it when i woke up

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1127045977962971156/1148983656052953249/togif-1.gif

[upper glade]

richmond mogs anyways

[muted cloud]

It does lol

Richmond is genuinely so nice but I probably should consider Grinnell too

[upper glade]

are those your top 2 rn

[muted cloud]

I feel like U Richmond has a huge balance of everything though

[upper glade]

richmond is closer to home for you right

its probably way better weather wise

[upper glade]

yeah

[muted cloud]

Yeah they're only 3 hours

[glass hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-gif-9556112374072121190

I love Virginia

[upper glade]

isnt richmond d1 too

[faint sleet]

same here

[main kite]

https://tenor.com/view/um-stan-twitter-interesting-gif-2556128588276332485

[upper glade]

Hmart 😭

[muted cloud]

I think I'm only overthinking it because Grinnell is higher ranking, and guarantees to meet demonstrated need without loans whereas Richmond technically doesnt (even though they gave me my best aid package for the coming year)

[main kite]

blasphemy

[upper glade]

I think aid is really case by case

[muted cloud]

But god I LOVE Richmond they've really grown on me

[fickle tundra]

tbh urich has better roi compared to grinneell by seeing linkdin alumni

[muted cloud]

Washington and Lee was my old top choice but I think I probably would've picked Richmond over W&L

[upper glade]

their logo is way better than grinnell too

[muted cloud]

I also have a roommate candidate for URich

Uggghh

[glass hornet]

Is Urich like urban or city

[upper glade]

fire mascot too

spiders

[muted cloud]

It's in Richmond proper but it's actually in a small pocket right outside the city

The campus is very walkable and localized

[sinful totem]

richmond is fucking awesome also

as a place

[glass hornet]

I mean, location wise it’s really good

Grinnell is actually out of no where

[upper glade]

oh wow they moved to patriot league

[muted cloud]

It seems like they're way more well rounded than Grinnell even though they aren't technically as high ranked (it's genuinely negligible dude)

[sinful totem]

i’d much rather be in RVA than like poughkeepsie or especially wherever grinnell is😭😭

[upper glade]

colgate vs richmond bouta be interesting @muted cloud

[loud helm]

i’d choose richmond over grinnell

[sinful totem]

lac rankings are like not real

i would choose richmond anyday

[loud helm]

grinnell js in iowa

[glass hornet]

This

[loud helm]

i’m not going to fucking iowa

[upper glade]

I think all LACs below Williams Amherst Swat and Pomona are like

[sinful totem]

yeah

[upper glade]

personal preference

[muted cloud]

Richmond has better food and career counseling stuff too

[upper glade]

like the t10~t30 range

[muted cloud]

From what I've heard

[upper glade]

unlike research Us

[sinful totem]

also location is honestly a lot more important than people think

being in a shitty location suckssss

you’re there for 4 years

[glass hornet]

I asked my Chinese friend, she thought Iowa is in India

[muted cloud]

I actually love the location of Grinnell outside of it being in Iowa

The town seems really homey to me

[sinful totem]

richmond is like fucking awesome great music scene too

[muted cloud]

I'd be more worried about getting careers outside of said area

[sinful totem]

I’m literally listening to a screamo band from richmond rn icl

[sinful totem]

i think it’ll be fine with either one

[muted cloud]

Okay this might convince me

Are they any good

[sinful totem]

one of my favorites

richmond has a crazy hardcore and emo scene

it’s rly good

[muted cloud]

Fuck Bad Omens is also from Richmond too

I forgot

Grahhh

[sinful totem]

richmond’s awesome

[loud helm]

i want to eat an entire ring of shrimp cocktail

[glass hornet]

I mean, we still decisions next week

We could like wait and decide

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1127045977962971156/1148983656052953249/togif-1.gif

[muted cloud]

I only have 3 coming up and they're like lock rejections

Vanderbilt, Wesleyan, Hamilton

And Hamilton has shit aid from what my calculators said

[glass hornet]

You’ll never know

[sinful totem]

the npc may be a bit inaccurate but also hamilton mid

location sucks

[muted cloud]

I genuinely considered withdrawing from Hamilton lol

[glass hornet]

Wes. is really good

I would wait

[sinful totem]

also im ngl ive never heard of anyone happy at hamilton 😭😭😭😭😭😭

all the stories i was told of people either hating it or transferring

[upper glade]

r u from upstate NY

how's the area for Colgate

[sinful totem]

im from NYC but vassar’s upstate so ik how it is

both of them location wise are pretty ass

[upper glade]

wondering what the general perception abt the school is too

[sinful totem]

bad location is most of what i care about for it it’s like genuinely in the middle of nowhere

upstate sucks also

vassar’s fine because like it’s easy to get to the city

but hamilton and colgate don’t have that luxury

[upper glade]

ohh

[sinful totem]

i think like cornell has a really good location also comparatively so LOL

ithaca is not bad at all

[upper glade]

no way

[sinful totem]

leagues better than hamilton colgate and maybe even vassar

vassar’s is probably close

but ithaca has actual stuff

it’s a college town

poughkeepsie is just poughkeepsie

[upper glade]

ahh

[sinful totem]

it’s just a rust belt working class city that’s been kinda abandoned by the state since no one cares about it

poughkeepsie that is

[upper glade]

most upstate cities right

[sinful totem]

but it’s a much more real location than wherever hamilton or colgate are

[upper glade]

😭

[sinful totem]

yeah

honestly probably all of them

[upper glade]

my friend HATES binghampton

[sinful totem]

bing is most likely better location wise than hamilton and colgate unless you like rural

i just can’t do rural

there’s literally no one

[upper glade]

ohh

[sinful totem]

if you like rural they’re fine

[upper glade]

but if I fw rural

oh okay

like weather is js classic upstate right

harsh winters

[sinful totem]

yeah hella snow

and very cold

[upper glade]

no sun

[sinful totem]

well there is sun

[upper glade]

is there sun

oh ok

[sinful totem]

but it’s just blisteringly cold

[upper glade]

ah

its worse than like coastside maine right

since its in land

[sinful totem]

not sure

[upper glade]

Im iffy if I like rural or not

[sinful totem]

i think it helps to think you’ll be there for 4 years

[upper glade]

I live in like the most urbanized part of this country rn but I don't take advantage of it often

[sinful totem]

a lotta people overlook location

going from urban to rural is like a big culture shock

[upper glade]

there's city semester programs + study abroad tho right

[sinful totem]

it’s weird not seeing people everywhere

[sinful totem]

i mean most likely

[upper glade]

ahh

[sinful totem]

i just think like it’s weirdddddd i could never do rural

im not a very social person but also being isolated is offputting

[upper glade]

if you're from NYC it would've mattered more I feel that

[sinful totem]

yeah

[upper glade]

poughkeepsie is like 2hrs away from NYC right

[sinful totem]

yes

[upper glade]

wish I applied to vassar

[sinful totem]

more like an hour and 45 minutes i think

[upper glade]

ahh

[sinful totem]

im driving back rn lmao

[upper glade]

lmao

[fickle tundra]

@sinful totem can you pls tell vassar to let me in

[upper glade]

my math teacher went to marist

[sinful totem]

i’ll manifest

[upper glade]

shouldve asked him smh

[sinful totem]

marist is pretty cool

they just became a uni

[upper glade]

yeahh

[sinful totem]

marist and vassar kids don’t rly interact though since we’re in like the town of poughkeepsie

they’re in the city proper

[fickle tundra]

thanks. i good experience with interview

i hope they forgive my css mistake

[upper glade]

ohh

like its still p distant?

[sinful totem]

then probably a good shot but also it’s a crapshoot for admissions anyway tbh

[sinful totem]

i mean it’s like 10 months

minI

min*

INTERNET

BRO

[upper glade]

LMAO

[quartz kindle]

How is darmouth's engineering program if anyone kneos?

[sinful totem]

the data up here is so bad

[upper glade]

top notch in the ivies

[sinful totem]

yeah dartmouth eng is pretty good

[upper glade]

I heard some ISPs dont work in upstate lmao

like mint mobile or smth

[quartz kindle]

Does ED give any boost? I heard they're pretty generous with Intl aid

[sinful totem]

i think it does but the service just sucksssss for most 😭😭😭😭😭

[quartz kindle]

I'm considering applying there ED

[upper glade]

yes but its still rlly hard

[sinful totem]

yeah

ED also like is kinda misleading a little since a good amount of the people applying ED are committed athletes

[quartz kindle]

Yeah I'll just still try. Everything is reach for Intl needing aid unless you're rich

[upper glade]

dartmouth is need blind so its hard both ways

[upper glade]

yuh

[fickle tundra]

i was shocked seeing vassar alumni on LinkedIn

[quartz kindle]

I'm not sure if there's any other good LAC engineering degree since most require 5 years

[fickle tundra]

most of them did sports

[sinful totem]

yeah there are a Lot of athletes here

most of our ED class was probably athletes lol

[upper glade]

swarthmore

[sinful totem]

it’s not like we’re any good either 😭😭😭

most of our sports suck

[fickle tundra]

do vassar prefer athletes?

[upper glade]

vassar logo would rock HARD on a football helmet icl

[sinful totem]

don’t rly know they like athletes because a lot of them are full pay

[fickle tundra]

😭

[upper glade]

are they from like prep schools mostly

[sinful totem]

we don’t give merit scholarships at all and that includes sports also yes

it’s fucking crazy what schools some kids here come from

it’s weird seeing the elite

[fickle tundra]

bro i thought vassar meets full pay and gives lot of students

they also mention declonisation stuff on page

[sinful totem]

We have a LOT of students on generous aid but also a LOT of full pay

[quartz kindle]

Oh I'll add that to my list

[sinful totem]

like it’s basically split in half

half are on aid

[fickle tundra]

i see

did you get any aid

or full pay

[sinful totem]

yeah im paying like 9k a year lol

[quartz kindle]

Ah so the acceptance rate on ED is misleading?

[upper glade]

is there a social line between the two or like

[sinful totem]

a bit yeah

[upper glade]

do yall js hang out

[sinful totem]

kinda

[upper glade]

ah

[sinful totem]

it depends

i also don’t like rich people very much

[upper glade]

bro duke has like actual discrimination against aid kids lmao

[sinful totem]

so i don’t go out of my way to hang out with them

[upper glade]

idt that would be the case for LACs

[quartz kindle]

I'm js not sure I think my stats fit the minimum requiriement but I still need a good personal statement and etc

[fickle tundra]

@sinful totem see dms

[sinful totem]

it’s like it kinda happens but no one’s outwards about it

[magic coral]

as someone who stays inside 24x7 cant relate

[sinful totem]

it’s like micro aggressions but instead of race it’s class

[upper glade]

no like outward classists right

[upper glade]

ah

[main kite]

this cannot be real

[fickle tundra]

was hard to adjust with rich pepole

coming form low income

[sinful totem]

tbh there are some but it’s very much not common

[main kite]

richmond is not it

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-lightning-crash-out-gif-4015029622416133418

[upper glade]

ahh okay

[fickle tundra]

like they would be spendng lot of money and stuff

[sinful totem]

it is most definitely so much better than poughkeepsie

[upper glade]

I mean they're everywjere

[main kite]

you’ll go to richmond and then you’ll get bored and start taking day trips to DC to do anything😭

the only good thing in richmond is carytown

sorry im biased. i am from here

[sinful totem]

richmond has a crazy good hardcore and emo scene tho

[main kite]

does it though…. all of my bands go to the norva in norfolk

[sinful totem]

lotta legendary bands in richmond

[main kite]

ive never seen any emo/metal bands go to richmond truthfully

[quartz kindle]

Does anyone have a list of good LACs for engineering yhat has aid for Intl? Swarthmore and darmouth are the only one in my listi rn

[main kite]

anyway i think richmond is good if you’re someone who wants both a taste of the south and a little city tbh

it’s kind of like if pitzer was a city😭😭 or is that portland

[sinful totem]

no way 😭😭😭

there are so many

[fickle tundra]

hmc

cmc

[main kite]

bruh who😭😭/gen

I want to know

[quartz kindle]

Those do not give aid 💀

CMC is a good one to add to my list thanks

I'm so worried my percentage average isn't good enough for these colleges. I only have a 92% avg

[glass hornet]

I m already considering transferring to URich

https://tenor.com/view/bird-cat-fly-ai-ai-gne-gif-7131706058580585843

[sinful totem]

ostraca, pageninetynine, dot gif from god, claudia’s symptoms (disbanded), dodomeki, autumn sonata (disbanded)

the hole has a

lot of shows

from what i see

[muted cloud]

I'm from the middle of fucking nowhere. Richmond has plenty exciting for a rural dweller like me

I find ways to be entertained in the middle of cornfields

[main kite]

yeah i don’t know how you do that

[magic coral]

lightnovels

[main kite]

when i was younger going to richmond was like going to nyc 😭😭😭

[sinful totem]

also athera, mydiarytoyou, donaldshimoda etc

[glass hornet]

Did u apply to Mac

[main kite]

2700 monthly listeners

[sinful totem]

well yeah

[main kite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/800761415388102676/1479630837044482212/IMG_3965.gif

[sinful totem]

they’re local bands

[glass hornet]

Mac is also really city irrc

[magic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-gif-25917805

[main kite]

well no wonder i do not recognize them

[muted cloud]

Local bands can be tuff

[sinful totem]

Gotta be active in da scene

the hole has a lotta shows

and the backroom

[main kite]

im not saying u need to be mainstream to be exciting but ain’t shit coming from richmond isn’t nettspend from here

[sinful totem]

well idk i said the hardcore and emo scene 😭🥀🥀

the scene there is hella active

[main kite]

no sorry ik he’s another genre i just meant my point is he makes Poop music😭

as in

haven’t heard much good shit coming from richmond 😭

but u know more than me so i will believe you

[sinful totem]

it was def better like maybe 2 years ago tbh

a lot of bands had to disband

[main kite]

norfolk is popular for international metal

like imminence

[sinful totem]

oh fair yeah

[muted cloud]

Bad Omens is a little poppy but they aren't bad

My friend wanted to see them so bad lol

I don't know a lot of Richmond bands though lol

[main kite]

which is what i know more about

shit their concert i just had to leave early bcs 3 hours into it they still hadn’t started yet ☠️ it was just the openers

[sinful totem]

😭

[main kite]

i prefer more poppy

[sinful totem]

This is why i like local shows

sets are like 15 min

[main kite]

shiii 😭😭

[sinful totem]

headliners usually like 30-45

[main kite]

ill look into them

like idk if a song doesn’t have a beat i can follow…. Im out🤦‍♂️

oh i guess the term is melodic death metal

[muted cloud]

I'm usually not a poppy guy

[main kite]

https://tenor.com/view/fierce-arch-enemy-alissa-white-gluz-music-video-gif-12048377

[sinful totem]

melodeath is pretty good

[muted cloud]

I'll look into them

[sinful totem]

oh arch enemy

[sinful totem]

nah it’s a genre lol

[muted cloud]

Ohhh

[main kite]

That’s a genre

💔

[sinful totem]

i’d say listen to old at the gates

pretty good

intestine baalism also

[muted cloud]

Melodic death metal is what I hear it called

[rustic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-owl-cat-owlcat-spring-excited-gif-9638611985122140704

[sinful totem]

best melodeath band probably

[muted cloud]

Took me a second

[main kite]

and i would suggest arch enemy 😛

[muted cloud]

Yall mfs be abbreviating anything

[main kite]

https://tenor.com/view/he-made-a-statement-so-gif-11797356028698398494

[glass hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-gif-9556112374072121190

[muted cloud]

Why the fuck does its wing morph into arms

What am I looking at

[loud helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/817461829566726144/1478942947667083385/twitter-gif-2029222639198195759_69a8ea7d15aef.gif

[rustic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/water-cat-ai-catfish-puffercat-gif-4103263979081323190

[glass hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-meme-cat-cat-meme-balloons-gif-15884246815804905231

Day 67 of begging Colgate university to ship me free toothpaste

[upper glade]

same

[glass hornet]

If I ever become a mod

I’ll spam the thread with owl cat gifs

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-gif-9556112374072121190

[rustic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-owlcat-owl-cat-bye-goodbye-gif-17579581394175547877

[magic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bird-bird-cat-pointer-finger-point-finger-cat-bird-point-finger-cat-gif-2676038606799380578

[rustic sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/get-well-soon-how's-your-knee-knee-dancing-cat-dance-gif-15766880887172440403

[steep ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-animated-troll-trolled-gif-27617235

[fringe topaz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/481308892165308416/1111380752525951066/74B1B0BF-9190-458C-9AC1-4FAFDE34C50D.gif

[glass hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-cat-dance-cute-cat-dance-ai-cat-gif-15064057413633942575

[idle bobcat]

Hello family

[glass hornet]

Hello shok

https://tenor.com/view/meowl-gif-9556112374072121190

[fickle tundra]

Most colleges are need aware so is the decision made by the admission department or Financial aid department ?

[idle bobcat]

Admissions

Yes, admissions will know if you need aid but they don’t always know how much aid you need

Some schools combine admissions and aid into one office which is kinda weird but yeah

[glass hornet]

I am so excited for college

Hopefully I can find a date

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-cat-dance-cute-cat-dance-ai-cat-gif-15064057413633942575

[fallen umbra]

a2davidson admitted students day fr

[tough mantle]

You going on the 10th then too?

[light karma]

wl from oxy too 😔

[quartz kindle]

Is the merit aid difficult?

[glass hornet]

Reed extended their ED2 ddl to 4.15??

[upper glade]

huh

[glass hornet]

You can still apply to Reed ED2

[upper glade]

like switch to ed2 and they'll reconsider your app?

sneaky move for yield lmao

[glass hornet]

Like literally apply

[upper glade]

oh wtf

[glass hornet]

Not switch

Idk if it’s worth it

What’s in Portland

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1127045977962971156/1148983656052953249/togif-1.gif

[loud helm]

stoners

burger joints

[foggy cape]

Portlands actually cool

[glass hornet]

If Urichmond does this I’ll apply

[muted cloud]

URichmond mention

I've been summoned

[fallen umbra]

yes

[tough mantle]

W

[glass hornet]

I have 0 hope for next week

Next week is going to be brutal for a2c

[fallen umbra]

a2davidson community going strong

[tough mantle]

I believe

[tough mantle]

Us and our 4 members 😭

[muted cloud]

And me

Obviously

[muted cloud]

The great Reckoning but it's the great Rejecting

[glass hornet]

Can i show up as a wl student at the Davidson admitted day

Are they gonna let me in

[muted cloud]

no

[glass hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bird-bird-cat-pointer-finger-point-finger-cat-bird-point-finger-cat-gif-2676038606799380578

[muted cloud]

[fallen umbra]

no bc u have to register in advance

[glass hornet]

Oh shit

[muted cloud]

I'm gonna show up as a rejected student

Trusttt

[upper glade]

reed is a really cool school

[fallen umbra]

rejected students day

[upper glade]

I'd attend if it was free

[muted cloud]

LOL

I'd go

Ngl

[fallen umbra]

Is that the one in Portland

[glass hornet]

I honestly don’t think it’s worth it to ED now

Idk

It’s too much

[muted cloud]

I think most people would attend anywhere if it was free

[upper glade]

yes

[glass hornet]

They have pretty good aid tho

[fallen umbra]

Portland is rlly cool but it’s def not for everyone

[glass hornet]

But not good like Grinnells aid

[upper glade]

would you attend like utah valley

for free

I'd rather go abe lincoln and study on my own

[glass hornet]

Is Reed in the city

I really don’t know if it’s a good choice to choose Reed over UGA. Especially right after I committed

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-so-fucking-scared-squid-game

[muted cloud]

There's exceptions

[rich robin]

reed isnt in like the city city

[upper glade]

HAHAH

[rich robin]

but its not in an isolated area either

[fallen umbra]

ok reed and UGA are very different schools

like vibe wise

and school culture

[upper glade]

UGA mogs

go dawgs

bark bark

woof woof

[rich robin]

im biased towards reed cuz im a portlander but i fw reed heavily 🔥

[fallen umbra]

I love Georgia so

[glass hornet]

Is Reed in the city

[rich robin]

no

its kinda like on the edge ish

suburbs area

kinda

[fallen umbra]

yeah

[glass hornet]

I fear party schools. But ppl say uga is a big school for all different kinds of ppl

[fallen umbra]

But like I mean culture wise in the type of students it attracts and like sports culture

[obsidian lintel]

reed is tuff ah

[idle bobcat]

Another Pitt fan ❤️❤️❤️

Are u ready for Thursday

[obsidian lintel]

i mean the good thing about big schools like UGA is that every imaginable kind of person exists there

like my flagship is uw madison, and i'm def not a frat bro / party guy but the people who go there are very varied in what they like/do

[upper glade]

go cheese

or badgers

or smth

UW is so cool

[obsidian lintel]

roll badge

[glass hornet]

I really like UR but I didn’t apply

[upper glade]

dope campus

[glass hornet]

I might just go to UGA then transfer

[obsidian lintel]

or we say on wisconsin

[obsidian lintel]

what is UR?

[muted cloud]

Its hard to transfer into lacs though

[obsidian lintel]

madison is such a pretty area too

[glass hornet]

Richmond

[obsidian lintel]

and lots of cool things to do

[muted cloud]

Richmond

[upper glade]

yeah nice college town right

midwest state schools are such a vibe

[glass hornet]

Yeah but I heard UR is nice to transfer

*sight

[dense relic]

random question but are the lakes swimmable at uw madison

[glass hornet]

Is it hard to find your group at small schools

[foggy cape]

yes

[upper glade]

omg

[dense relic]

YAYYY

[obsidian lintel]

it depends

some are

some are restricted

boating and fishing is pretty big tho

think you can swim in lake mendota

and monona

[dense relic]

omg that makes me so happy yay

[obsidian lintel]

god madison is so tuff

[dense relic]

im visiting next month

im so excited

theyre handing out badger lego sets for all admitted students

[upper glade]

COLD

[obsidian lintel]

WHAT

i gotta get to an admitted students day then that's tuff ash

[dense relic]

YES im so excited

[tough mantle]

😭

I was 2/3 at North Carolina colleges

[fickle tundra]

Wait what? Can i apply now using scior ??

[glass hornet]

Yes

I m considering it too

[upper glade]

I recommend taking an unconventional approach in the supp

thats how I got in

[obsidian lintel]

where are you seeing this?

[fallen umbra]

YES

I need episode 13 so we can get abbot back

[upper glade]

I think they are short on applicants this yr or smth

wtf

[fallen umbra]

I fear that samira is down for the count this episode tho

[glass hornet]

I m considering it only cuz I don’t like party school. And Oregon has no sales tax

[idle bobcat]

Oooooof

[idle bobcat]

Sales tax influencing college decisions is crazy 😭

[fallen umbra]

had I not gotten in ED 1 the majority of my apps would’ve been NC

[loud helm]

MY BABI

[fallen umbra]

NO BC I NEED ABBOT TO SEE THE STATE OF THE PITT RN

[loud helm]

mohabbot i love u

[glass hornet]

I mean💀 it’s cheaper

[fallen umbra]

abbot save ur girl

[loud helm]

ABBOT SAVE OUR PRINCESS

[glass hornet]

Does anyone go to Reed here

[fallen umbra]

mckay and javadi interaction next episode

[glass hornet]

Is it true that they are really hard academically

[loud helm]

notoriously so yes

their grad rate is

[glass hornet]

Is there like China town/bobas near by

[rich robin]

mostly yes but its also js dependent on the specifics of things

[upper glade]

YES

[rich robin]

no china town

but lots of boba shop

[upper glade]

only 9 4.0 graduates since the 70s or smth

[rich robin]

portland is oversaturated with boba 😢

[upper glade]

its crazy hard

[glass hornet]

I am Chinese idk if it’s going to be nice to me

I never been there before

[rich robin]

nah ull be fine

very diverse area

[upper glade]

p sure portland is great for POC

[glass hornet]

WHAT

[rich robin]

yes

[glass hornet]