Duke University (2025-2026)

[lavish hatch]

but like you gotta be super specific and tie your experiences to how you’d further build those skills at a specific uni

Dont be cliche at all

[bleak oasis]

do they also consider ur entire application as a whole when they admit from waitlist

not just loci

[lavish hatch]

Ye they re screen everything

I’m probably gonna withdraw my wl from Duke later this week

and other colleges

[bleak oasis]

congrats on upenn!

[native steppe]

duke

[dense sentinel]

Ofc

Currently studying lin alg

invertible implies bijective implies dim v = dim w etc

[native steppe]

ew

well pretend i rememebr that

[lavish hatch]

thank you

[lavish hatch]

Can you buy me a pizza when I make it to yale

yale medical school 🤑🤑

[dense sentinel]

Bb i’ll be graduated

[lavish hatch]

Oh

So u want me to die

[native steppe]

did u take any calc or similar in hs?

i'll have to retake everything at duke lol

[plain plover]

uve done lin alg/mvc/diff eq

right

[native steppe]

yea

evil trio 😭

can we log into dukehub yet

also does it tell u if u got merit aid??

[maiden apex]

I submitted a loci for duke when I got deferred ed. I mentioned how I was maintaining my gpa and recent awards that aren’t in my common app. Also it was during the blizzard so I had a sentence asking if they were doing fine

[viscid wind]

there should be a notification/section of ur admission page w/ financial aid stuff

[native steppe]

intriguing

it just says grant aid

[maiden apex]

They ain’t giving me any aid

Im happy they let me in

[maiden apex]

Where chrck

[native steppe]

when u view ur letter

go to the very bottom

itll be the last link

[maiden apex]

Oki

[bleak oasis]

dang that sentence was firee

ur so tuff for getting in after defer

[maiden apex]

i thought it was a courtesy reject tbh

[native steppe]

huh weird

[proper ruin]

that isnt out til may

[proper ruin]

you will get it in the following days

[native steppe]

oh cool !

i also didnt see there were other pages 😭 the aid makes sense now

[proper ruin]

wish i got more aid but my family is financially comfort so im gratefuk for getting 22.5k a semester

[maiden apex]

guys can I apply for aid after I get accepted

ik its a stupid question

[native steppe]

looks like yes

[maiden apex]

yay!!

YAY

I hope you are committing

See you on campus fellow blue devil

[native steppe]

hello....

a2duke !!

i thought u were set on NU

[dusty axle]

Omg it almost got starboard

[native steppe]

get it starred pls

i find the tenting insane 😭

[dusty axle]

I wanna make a YouTube video explaining it

[native steppe]

there is never a time where nc weather is good enough to spend weeks in a small tent

[dusty axle]

Like an hour long one

[plain plover]

i got u girl

#5 stars

[native steppe]

I love the community at A2C. People are so welcoming whenever I ask about college as long as I tell them I worship HYPSM. Then they invite me to their megathread and we talk in there for almost half a semester instead of the applying to college because we love prestige chasing that much.

waitlist warriorsss

join a2nc

[maiden apex]

ofc

duke is superior

Are there any gcs for class of 30

I only see the igotin one but idk if its worth paying

[golden cipher]

best state

[native steppe]

hi I'm Donny I'm 99.119827362718262672% committed to Duke, I love playing with my dog, fishing, and community service!!! DM for roomies pls

[golden tiger]

duke or columbia?

econ + data science pre med

[hexed elk]

Is there a duke specific discord

[maiden apex]

Should i waste my free posting to prank

Like as a celebrity

[native steppe]

I don't think they even vet it

cuz yea I've seen celebs on there 😭😭

[maiden apex]

Its automated i think

[native steppe]

Gotta be

[dense sentinel]

i took bc calc in high school

but nothing else

well i also took stats

surely duke will have a placement test. i mean retaking calc 3/ lin alg might be helpful but since u took it DE they might let u skip

[thin prairie]

harvard better

[native steppe]

I looked at their site

It seems like it's a case by case basis

Will def reach out

[viscid wind]

advice for incoming freshmen: become friends with sophomores+ because when u run out of food points everyone but freshmen will have a lot of excess because of how the foodplan works

[weak lantern]

yeah... I'm currently suffering lwk lmaoo I'm scraping by with just a bit of food points 😭

trying to survive until finals are done at least

[native steppe]

I need to find my tour guide she was so sweet

[viscid wind]

im so cooked it's crazy cause i couldnt go home for spring break so i had to spend a bunch of food points

[weak lantern]

? if ur talking about scholarships you'll be notified if ur a finalist in the next few days

[weak lantern]

oh hell nah

[viscid wind]

based artist taste btw

[weak lantern]

OMG thank youu

bruh I had hella food points bc i went home for spring break but then I came back and discovered farmstead salmon and I may have been indulging myself a bit recently..

so now I'm not in a good spot for food points 😭

[viscid wind]

LMFAO one of my friends has started doing that 😭

it's so expensive </3

[weak lantern]

getting one piece of salmon is more than one full meal at gsoy its crazy

[viscid wind]

biggest con of duke food is having to do math to know if you're overspending without memorizing stuff

[weak lantern]

wait yeah

[viscid wind]

costs more than ginger chicken w/ extra protein

iirc

[native steppe]

How often do y'all eat

[viscid wind]

or it's very comparable

[viscid wind]

freshmen have 3 meals: marketplace breakfast, wu lunch, marketplace dinner

i skip breakfast a lot and use equivalency and get like eggs or smth

[weak lantern]

OMG bruh my friend last sem was buying ginger chicken with extra protein every day and protein shake bc he was bulking and lets just say bro was at 400 food points within the first month 😭

[native steppe]

protein maxx

[plain plover]

i would assume duke is unlimited dining?? its not??

[weak lantern]

yeah me too

[viscid wind]

i say im bulking but in reality im just becoming fat

[viscid wind]

no

literally the opposite 😂

[native steppe]

It's just a dirty bulk trust

[weak lantern]

freshman get marketplace which is buffet style so u can get as much as u want

[viscid wind]

marketplace is buffet

[plain plover]

thats so wild to me

[viscid wind]

but after freshman year there's no buffet

[plain plover]

they hate your asses 💀

[weak lantern]

but then after freshman year u gotta pay 22(?) bucks for marketplace but u get a meal plan for food points to eat on west campus at WU

[viscid wind]

our dining hall is basically just a bunch of restaurants

it's not a traditional dining hall like mp is

[weak lantern]

yeah

[viscid wind]

"our"=wu btw

[weak lantern]

I haven't gone to nasher yet bc I don't got the food points for that yet 😭

but duke food is definitely rlly good

[native steppe]

What's the best eats

Am I gonna become big 💔

[viscid wind]

freshman 15 at duke hits when u go back home and can eat as much as u want

or at mp

[weak lantern]

wait yeah

i gain weight when i go home not at school LOL

[plain plover]

im gonna have a fat girl winter at harvard with the unlimited dining 🤤

[viscid wind]

depends on ur pref but gsoy is the most popular

[plain plover]

maybe duke is protecting u guys

they looking out for u

[weak lantern]

honestly i think as a freshman you will think gsoy is the best in the beginning but you will get sick of it and switch to other stuff

[plain plover]

thats a real one

[viscid wind]

this is notably a fact

[weak lantern]

I've been enjoying farmstead a lot recently and their kale salad

[native steppe]

I'm very not picky tbh

[viscid wind]

mix up ur food choices

also

[native steppe]

Open to amything

[viscid wind]

EAT VEGGIES

i actually hate

[weak lantern]

WAIT YES

[viscid wind]

that there's no good vegatable options

in like half of the food

[weak lantern]

im so sad there are not many veggies bc im a huge veggie person :(

its actually so sad

[viscid wind]

there's like literally 0 fiber in half the meals in wu

[native steppe]

Lowkenuinely?

[weak lantern]

also take advantage of marketplace once u are a freshman bc u will miss it 😭

[weak lantern]

yeah..

[viscid wind]

fr everytime u see the brownies

just go get them

[weak lantern]

YES

[viscid wind]

u also dont get desert for free in wu

[weak lantern]

i go crazy for the mango sorbet in marketplace

[viscid wind]

😭 real

[native steppe]

r y'all on aid

has it changed significantly year to year ..

[viscid wind]

im on academic scholarships outside of traditional fafsa

[weak lantern]

im on academic scholarship as well lmao

[viscid wind]

but like technically im out of pocket

[native steppe]

💔

[viscid wind]

it's gone up the past 2 years

prob years more but i only know abt the last 2 years

[native steppe]

So I've heard

[weak lantern]

i think it went up by 2% for next year right

[viscid wind]

yeah it's up like 2-3k i think

[native steppe]

I saw this though

[weak lantern]

ah

tbh if tuition increase they may increase the amount of financial aid to match that but im not entirely sure

[native steppe]

me equals mc scareddsdd

[weak lantern]

have you gotten your finaid package?

[native steppe]

ya

it said 70k in grants

It's doable but that's like right on the edge 😭 still able to pay without nuking the finances

[viscid wind]

duke where is this fin aid for me 😭

[native steppe]

lwk

They have an initiative for in NC/SC

<150k free tuition

[viscid wind]

ok tbh like very seriously i do not need aid at all

but like it'd be nice ot have 😭

[native steppe]

We were a bit above so my suspicion is there's a sliding scale above it

Since the total grants were a hair under total tuition

[weak lantern]

nah fr

😭

[weak lantern]

ah i see

i think if you get that much finaid though you qualify for work study as well right

[viscid wind]

wait i forgot to ask what major ru

[native steppe]

the total billed costs is basically our sai

[native steppe]

Yea

[weak lantern]

chemistry lol

[light timber]

congrats to those who got in

[viscid wind]

wait what

twin

[native steppe]

I def don't mind taking it upon myself to afford

[viscid wind]

or well

former twin

[light timber]

happy ending to the admission cycle

[native steppe]

I'm going for math

[viscid wind]

im potentially transferring into pratt

but im currently doing chem

[weak lantern]

omg what happened 😭

OHH

bme?

[viscid wind]

yeah

[weak lantern]

wait thats so cool

i have a friend who transferred to bme this sem

he is enjoying it except the math classes lol

[native steppe]

mafs is fun smh

[weak lantern]

you can def get good work study there are some stuff on campus where you just have to stand at a desk for a few hours and u can do ur homework at the same time lol

[viscid wind]

lmao i hope i enjoy it too

[native steppe]

The dream

[viscid wind]

which chem class ru in rn?

[native steppe]

I'm getting a tutoring job at my cc

[weak lantern]

orgo 1 :D

[viscid wind]

who's your prof

[weak lantern]

craig but i lwk skip to go to parise lmao

[viscid wind]

LMFAO im in craig

😭

[weak lantern]

parise the goat

[viscid wind]

OH HN

[weak lantern]

LMAO

bruh

[viscid wind]

I WILL NOT TAKE CRAIG SLANDER

[weak lantern]

😭

WAIT its ok

[viscid wind]

craig is unironically

the lebron james

[weak lantern]

i love craig too

omg

[viscid wind]

of the chem department

[weak lantern]

lebron james of chem

[native steppe]

glaze

[viscid wind]

my man is literally moving like prime lebron in ochem lectures

[weak lantern]

bro.. should i pull up to a craig lecture

[viscid wind]

legit will never stop glazing him

[viscid wind]

yes bro he's acc so good

[weak lantern]

i just cant bring myself to go bc its at 8:30 am..

😭

[viscid wind]

and he's fun to talk to after lecture

[weak lantern]

have u gone to a parise lecture

[native steppe]

what makes this fella so goated

[weak lantern]

oh wait yeah hes super nice

ive talked with him before

[viscid wind]

ive had parise as a substitute a few times for craig

[weak lantern]

Ooh

[viscid wind]

when craig was traveling for stuff

[weak lantern]

what did u think of it

[maiden apex]

Does duke take alot of ap credit

[weak lantern]

in comparison to craig

[weak lantern]

only 2 credits

[viscid wind]

yes but highkey it's 99% useless

[weak lantern]

can count towards grad

[viscid wind]

ab and bc

are the only useful ones

if youre stem

everything else youll probably just retake

[weak lantern]

ngl u guys if u only have dual enrollment credit ur cooked... bc that was me and I got no credits transferred lmaoo

[weak lantern]

yeah

i have ab calc but not bc

its fried

[maiden apex]

What the

[native steppe]

were u NC?

[maiden apex]

12 aps gonna go straight to the bin

[weak lantern]

nah

im a west coast kid through and through

[native steppe]

ah

Maybe I'll get some in state grace

[weak lantern]

but i went to a specialized hs so they only have 4 ap classes offered

💀

[native steppe]

It's easy As if I have to retake anyway

[weak lantern]

yeah

well tbh i know a lot of ppl who took calc bc in hs and they were struggling in calc 122

so beware

but if u have to take higher lvl calc classes some ppl recommend taking calc 122 anyways bc itll help u

[maiden apex]

Oh

Its a small school ngl

But dont make ur opp resign ur chance at duke

Thats like

Losing to ur opponent

?

Wow

[viscid wind]

i hate ochem labs sm

[maiden apex]

I ed duke just because some girl decided to apply to the school I was plannign to

[native steppe]

Is that even allowed

..

[viscid wind]

18 for me 💀

[maiden apex]

Damn

[maiden apex]

Duke was my actual dream school but more like a unicorn school

[viscid wind]

math at duke is just hard from what ppl tell me

like the ab and bc equivalents

[maiden apex]

As international no chance to get in almost

[viscid wind]

are just hard from what i hear

[viscid wind]

youre going to be

surprised

[maiden apex]

She got in northwestern but opted out ed

[viscid wind]

at how many internationals there are

which country ru from?

[weak lantern]

thats actually so sad 😭

[maiden apex]

Yes but theres like 200 countries

[weak lantern]

yeah for sure :(

[maiden apex]

Korea, we get like 20 ppl domestically

[native steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/i-could've-sworn-there-was-a-gif-of-this-whatever-squid-game-squid-game-edit-squid-game-edit-meme-i'm-so-scared-gif-12360771953743496060

[viscid wind]

oh lmfao yeah gl finding anyone

actually that's not true

youll find a bunch of domestic koreans

[maiden apex]

Most of the koreans u see on campus sre like

[viscid wind]

international koreans are rarer

my roommate is korean

[maiden apex]

American koreans

[weak lantern]

holy moly there are so many korean ppl here

you will be fine

[viscid wind]

and one of my friends in my first class was korean

physics queen

[maiden apex]

Im prob the only one actually from the peninsula tho

Im seeing NOONE accepted other than like 5 from other schools

[lucid sierra]

holy shit I got into duke

[maiden apex]

Nice

[viscid wind]

just dont get sucked into frat culture from the get go and youll survive

[native steppe]

on jah ?

[lucid sierra]

APRIL FOOLS

[viscid wind]

maybe this is a person thing but like frat culture at duke is such a weird thing

[lucid sierra]

AHAHAHAHA

😭✌️😭✌️

[viscid wind]

i am perhaps too asian for that

[maiden apex]

I thought u had to join a frat to succeed, what are your thoughts on this

[native steppe]

Is it easy to avoid?

[viscid wind]

AT DUKE???

HELL NAH

[weak lantern]

honestly i agree on this point

[native steppe]

Or is it one of those things where it's ingrained in the culture

[maiden apex]

No like in general

[viscid wind]

ehhh

id say no

lol

[weak lantern]

and i think a lot of ppl misunderstand that you wont survive socially if you dont join a frat but i dont think thats the case

[viscid wind]

depends on your goals but at duke im not ngl

frats are just for parties

😭

[weak lantern]

ik a lot of ppl who are not a part of frat culture and still enjoy their experience here

[maiden apex]

Baseline I DO NOT want to be in a frat. But I thought I would be missing out on job opportunities

[native steppe]

I heard frat rates are declining

Across the country

[viscid wind]

duke disaffiliated with them

so we also dont have traditional frats and sororities

[native steppe]

are frat houses on campus?

[maiden apex]

I do not like partying too much

[viscid wind]

no

[maiden apex]

More of a studious asian

[native steppe]

🙏

Bless

Frats scare me

[viscid wind]

youll fit in fine lol

find me dying in bostock sometime in the fall

[maiden apex]

Yay

[viscid wind]

i know an obscene amount of study spots

i too belong to the studious asian category 😂

[maiden apex]

Endulge me in this information

[native steppe]

I'm a studious Asian

[viscid wind]

whatever anyone tells you

[native steppe]

[viscid wind]

perkins is the worst spot

[maiden apex]

We all studious asians ❤️

[viscid wind]

to ever study

[weak lantern]

i look forward to when lily library is finished and when i wont have to fight people for a spot in perkins

[viscid wind]

like EVER

do not go to perkins 3rd floor

if u ever want to study

[maiden apex]

Do people blast music or something

[viscid wind]

in peace

[viscid wind]

it's a bunch of frat guys (i think at least) who dont shut up

[maiden apex]

Sounds shitty

[viscid wind]

just go to bostock

it's connected and much quieter

[weak lantern]

i think thats bc perkins 3rd floor is a popular band pickup spot

but im not sure

[weak lantern]

bostock is amazing

i rlly like the engineering building as well

[native steppe]

I think my fave part of my tour was the libraries

We didn't go in lol but they seemed cool

I gotta go again now

[viscid wind]

egr buildings are amazing

pratt has all the new buildings

but if ur not in pratt it's a bit of a headache to walk over solely to study

[native steppe]

I swear I never saw any duke ppl in here before today 💀

[weak lantern]

thats true lwk

[viscid wind]

also apparently ceiling tiles are falling in cineas

[native steppe]

Where were y'all hiding

[viscid wind]

i lwk just joined today

[native steppe]

oh LOL

[viscid wind]

just for this 😂

[weak lantern]

lmao i joined today for this as well 😭

its fun seeing all the new admits :)

[viscid wind]

idk how negative im allowed to be here but

r/a2c

highkey

one of the worst things in existence

next to uconn vs duke and houston vs duke

[native steppe]

The discord is a much better place than the sub imo

[maiden apex]

May I ask you stuff in dms if I have any questions?

[weak lantern]

worst comes to worst we get banned and that may be a good thing

[native steppe]

I'm pretty sure they're even ran by diff ppl

[viscid wind]

go for it lol

[weak lantern]

BRO

[maiden apex]

Its more wholesome because its less anonymous

[weak lantern]

DONT EVEN

😭

[native steppe]

cayden boozer

cooper flagg

[viscid wind]

im happy to answer anything just dont ask me frat/sorority related stuff

[weak lantern]

yeah me too :)

[viscid wind]

oh also from a domestic student perspective

your closest in-group is going to be nerdy academic students

likely from california

[weak lantern]

are u from nc?

[viscid wind]

im from norcal

[weak lantern]

Ohh

[viscid wind]

wbu?

[weak lantern]

seattle lol

ive been thinking this but im pretty sure we know the same people ngl 😭

[viscid wind]

wait wha

dyk eileen 😭

[weak lantern]

YEAH

LOL

[native steppe]

lmfao

Small world

[viscid wind]

she lives 2 doors down from me lmfao

[weak lantern]

bro

[viscid wind]

we share bio ochem and ochem discussion 😂

[weak lantern]

i live in the same dorm as u gang

[viscid wind]

BRUh

[weak lantern]

😭

wait hold up

[viscid wind]

bassett warrior

[native steppe]

no wayy

[viscid wind]

my people 😭

[weak lantern]

bassett gang

[native steppe]

Is Duke that small fr

[viscid wind]

bassett is that small

our dorm is BAD

like REALLY bad

[native steppe]

💔

[maiden apex]

Can I ask you reasons/how to avoid frats?

[weak lantern]

we are united over suffering

[plain plover]

i know an evil evil man attending duke…

[viscid wind]

it's the worst one basically

[weak lantern]

YOU GUYS DONT TAKE GENETIC FOCUS

[native steppe]

Whom

[viscid wind]

this is a personal preference

[weak lantern]

OR ELSE U END UP IN BASSETT AND RISK GETTING PUT IN ETHICS

😭

[echo grove]

got into duke!!!

[maiden apex]

I feel like I’m on the same boat as you lowkey

[viscid wind]

for reference im from like bay area cali

[plain plover]

a biomed engineer.

[native steppe]

Oh dear

[viscid wind]

alcohol and i have never and will never mix

[native steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-eating-funny-basketball-mcdonalds-gif-12782701

[viscid wind]

not that this is 100% true but a reality is that 70% of undergrads have consumed alcohol

and 70% means 70% of undergrads who are willing to admit when surveyed

[maiden apex]

I mean I did since its legal in my country at my age

[weak lantern]

genuinely worst than west house

[viscid wind]

a large portion of that is because of frats

[weak lantern]

at least west house can say "west house best house"

[maiden apex]

I drink like a glass of whisky once a month alone

[viscid wind]

they get wannamaker and it lwk isnt that bad

[native steppe]

do u pick ur dorm

[viscid wind]

no

like first 2 years

u just dont

[native steppe]

The god gotta bless me?

[weak lantern]

bro it pmo that the pegram kids get craven

[native steppe]

Oh lord

[weak lantern]

😭

[viscid wind]

your freshman dorm maps onto your sophomore dorm

[weak lantern]

they didnt get to go trhough the bassett treatment

[native steppe]

I used my luck for the next 10 years as is

[maiden apex]

Yea im def not into drinking 8 beers and getting into hangovers the next morning

Ty

[viscid wind]

so if u get a good dorm freshman year, you get a bad dorm sophomore year

[weak lantern]

random

and your roommate is random too

[native steppe]

No.

[viscid wind]

i mean each to their own im just not a party person in that way

no one will judge you for or for not drinking

[weak lantern]

honestly, you might get a rlly good roommate

[viscid wind]

i just am not into doing that stuff

[weak lantern]

its pretty 50/50 here but i know a lot of ppl who are sticking with their roommates for next year

im staying with mine

[viscid wind]

international students also tend to experience culture shock when they come here

[native steppe]

schools with have these low ahh acceptance rates and still put u with a bad roomie

💔

[restive rain]

@plain plover did you get duke?

[plain plover]

i got waitlisted

duke saw my face card and knew it was too good to accept but they decided to be nice

[native steppe]

omg! stats + ECs + essays + W2 + SSN + blood type + birth chart??

I was genuinely a step away from invoking actual astrology

[plain plover]

oh!! i dont remember the last 4 on my application!!

[native steppe]

What do the stars say...

[echo grove]

there is a lot of randomness in college apps

so i would not stress too much over it

[viscid wind]

just something for you guys to consider and this isnt backed by stats

getting into duke by merit is potentially harder than you'd expect by the admission rates

[echo grove]

the statistical probability for sm1 normal unhooked is p much impossile

[viscid wind]

duke's class consists of lots of athletes and a portion of legacy students

[echo grove]

when u factor in all donors, athletes, legacy, fgli, diversity and any other hooks

if u have none of that the amnt of spots left are very few

[native steppe]

wow they blessed me then

unhooked orm

rd

[echo grove]

its a lot of luck

sadly colleges dont value merit as much as they once did

[native steppe]

maybe there's an NC rural boost

[echo grove]

maybe a bit but prob not much

[viscid wind]

so it's not surprising to see ppl who are "normal" (and i say that in quotations in the sense that they're not in those categories) end up with weird results at duke because there's fewer spots to ppl who are getting in without any of those

[native steppe]

The ceiling just isn't high enough stats wise

[echo grove]

not really

[native steppe]

More people get a 1600 SAT than there are spots at Harvard + MIT combined

[echo grove]

they rather have sm1 who can help in making a unique class size than a normal cracked person

[echo grove]

no lol

only 1000 ppl get a 1600 a year?

[native steppe]

Yes, lol

[echo grove]

unless that number went up

[maiden apex]

Im not either too
reason why I look so forward to going to college is to become detached from the whole student culture in south korea

We are known for drinking and smoking alot

[echo grove]

the issue isnt stats a lot of ppl applying have good apps

but lack some unique factor to get a second look

[viscid wind]

yeah youll be fine just find the right vibe of ppl

[native steppe]

SAT doesn't seem to publish it anymore but in 2025, 2,958 students achieved a 36 ACT

[echo grove]

ACT is diff than SAT

[viscid wind]

also not saying this is going to be you but international students have a...

small

reputation

[echo grove]

its easier to get a 36 due to the rounding

[viscid wind]

well ig this is more applicable to chinese internationals

[native steppe]

Sure but I imagine there's a four digit number of 1600s as well

[weak lantern]

undercover state school fr lmao

[echo grove]

even then there are more spots for mit+harvard than total act perfect scores that year

[native steppe]

It's interesting because last CDS they included in state as a separate group of admissions

[viscid wind]

but there's some internationals who are really insensitive to domestic students for some reason

[native steppe]

And it was a 2% difference

Genuinely I think it is lol

[echo grove]

because CDS is for a lot of schools

state schools give a boost

thats mainly why

[weak lantern]

oh huh

thats kind of crazy

[echo grove]

most private schools do give a slight boost but not anything crazy

CDS has that

[weak lantern]

i have no clue bc im oos

[native steppe]

Home field advantage

[echo grove]

its not duke creating that format

they fill out a form

[viscid wind]

as in ive heard an international student from the middle east trying to hit on a girl by saying he has 5k monthly allowance 😭

[native steppe]

oh.

[viscid wind]

yes they were both freshmen

[native steppe]

anyways!!

[weak lantern]

LMAO

i cant

😭

[viscid wind]

you will also learn about what we call

"the duke difference"

[native steppe]

Hopefully I'll duck college dating

[viscid wind]

or as i like to call it

[native steppe]

I'm locked rn

[viscid wind]

"the duke deficit"

[native steppe]

wat da hell is that

[viscid wind]

im not explaining that to you

you have to learn first hand

[native steppe]

ok!!!!

[bleak oasis]

bro i wanna get off the waitlist so badly

[echo grove]

but like the process was never fair to begin with so dont get mad if u didnt get in

the amnt of spots for normal cracked ppl without any hook or diversity appeal is very low

a lot of ppl are saying that too many ppl with high stats are applying but idt thats the issue

[native steppe]

I'm sure

[restive rain]

LMAOO nah they knew u were a harvadian and got grossed out 😉

[echo grove]

a lot of those ppl have solid apps but those colleges would rather have smth that would improve their agenda/goals

[native steppe]

That's why I say nobody really knows why they got the decisions they got

[echo grove]

at the end of the day the college rather they benefit more

[echo grove]

yea thats true but if u just take a look at how many spots are really left

[native steppe]

I suppose a 3x IMO could suspect why they got into MIT lol

[echo grove]

it shouldnt be a upsetting as to why so many got rejected who were qualified

[restive rain]

Were u gonna consider it as an option over the big h?

[native steppe]

But otherwise who knows

[echo grove]

again single case instances arent good measures

[native steppe]

They very well could've had a different decision if they applied a different year

[echo grove]

yea it depends on a lot of things

but i personally know people who leveraged a lot of stuff in their cards to get in despite having weaker apps and lower stats

the process is never fair and wont ever be esp for private colleges if you got rejected and were qualified i wouldnt get upset because that wouldnt change anything

[native steppe]

mhm

[echo grove]

just work hard and ull do fine anywhere most ppl at all these colleges will end up living normal lives

if you are excpectionally cracked you will make it big anywhere

[native steppe]

I think if you truly are the type of student who could get admitted into such institutions, your work ethic will carry you greatly

No matter where

[echo grove]

if you're banking on certain connections at these top colleges then you're misled

extremely rich ppl are not going to invite you into their circle just because you go to the same school

[native steppe]

Side note it's funny when I hear about what people "settled" for and it's like...

Georgia Tech, UMich, Cal, etc

[echo grove]

its a close knit circle and esp if u dont come from wealth its hard to enter

[restive rain]

Oh shit congrats on duke!!!! Which school are you leaning towards 😭

[native steppe]

prob duke

[echo grove]

georgia tech and caltech are both insanely hard to get into esp gt oos

[native steppe]

Oh by cal I mean Berkeley lol

[restive rain]

All that unc pride talk 😭😭😭

[native steppe]

They say on their finaid they don't match offers from other schools

[restive rain]

Fair tho

[naive thicket]

vro what 😭

[native steppe]

I had zero reason to believe I was getting in 😭

[viscid wind]

i have a friend who got gtech mechE

and thinks she let ppl down

[native steppe]

yea...

[viscid wind]

i dont know how to explain to her gtech mechE

is like

[naive thicket]

yeah ggs im going ucsd atp 😭

[native steppe]

GT OOS EECS this year was apparently 4.5%

[echo grove]

fin aid is hard to negotiate

[viscid wind]

one of the best programs in the US

[native steppe]

I think they cut a lot of their oos seats across the board

[echo grove]

whats ur cost?

[viscid wind]

she's like tripping herself because she didnt get into a t10 by name college

[native steppe]

I mean it doesn't hurt to try

[echo grove]

11k is p cheap

[viscid wind]

but she got like ltierally the 1st or 2nd best meche program in the us

[echo grove]

u might be able to get a bit off if u have some circumstance

11k is very cheap i can understand many can't pay but a lot of upper middle class are paying close to 100k

[restive rain]

Why not try to appeal atleast? Congrats btw!

[echo grove]

i would try appealing but 44k for 4 years not including other expenses is still very good for Duke

i know people paying 400-450k at top schools its insane

[native steppe]

Well known publics are approaching ivy level acceptances

Esp for certain programs

[echo grove]

can u take out loans?

a 50k loan isnt as crazy as say 400k

[native steppe]

Like I know UT CS

Is insane

[echo grove]

if you work a part time job you should be able to pay off that 11k each year

it might be a hassle but thats life

i would just do that

[native steppe]

How much did NU offer ?

[restive rain]

YESS!! Fingers crossed, hope to see you this fall :)

[native steppe]

Sheesh what

I thought they were good with aid

If Duke is beating offers...

[echo grove]

you have to realize a lot of these colleges alr have a set amnt they can prob give in aid many might go a bit abv every year but

theyre likely taught not to negotiate that much

[viscid wind]

duke is decent w/ aid

like not amazing

[echo grove]

otherwise everyone would do that

which most ppl do lol

[native steppe]

I was surprised

It's the same as UNC would've been

[viscid wind]

it's one of the few schools to offer a scholarship for international students

[native steppe]

But yea finaid system is fucked

Esp with their shadow math

[echo grove]

the financial aid system isnt bad its moreso how college is set up

its supply and demand at the end of the day

[native steppe]

If you aren't a w2 employee w/ no assets at all ✌️

[echo grove]

too many ppl want to go to these top colleges that are willing to pay

i do agree gov should cap the amnt they cost

but everyone who thinks its expensive has the option of cheaper schools

[native steppe]

Some of these institutions literally predate said government

They're ingrained into the American elite

[echo grove]

wdym

[native steppe]

Harvard was founded in 1636

[viscid wind]

harvard long predates the us government

[native steppe]

140 years before

[echo grove]

these colleges can try to prevent a gov cap

but i doubt they would have that much influence

if people really asked for it

[native steppe]

Also the gov has no reason to lol, or if they rlly cares they would've increased pell grants by now

[echo grove]

no1 rlly tries to cap it

[viscid wind]

wm and yale

mb

[native steppe]

Pell used to cover almost the full cost

[viscid wind]

not to be political but to be political

[native steppe]

But ofc it hasn't matched growing tutition

[viscid wind]

i think you know the rest of the statement

[echo grove]

there would be a lot of budget trade offs

its not a simple situation

i think they should cap how much many colleges are charging

[native steppe]

Yeah 😭

[viscid wind]

yale is literally expanding their class size by 100 every year now lol

[echo grove]

but when i see people take out hefty loans i dont feel bad because that was the choice they made

[echo grove]

yes but theyre also offering so much aid to many people

the full pay people are the ones covering thats their logic

[viscid wind]

being able to go to any college is a privilege and being able to afford to go to a t10 is an even bigger privilege

[echo grove]

its a free world so everyone has the choice

[native steppe]

Legitimately if you're a strong student there's plenty of low cost options

It just depends on if you're willing to attend a "lower" ranked school

I always use bama as an example because they have very expansive merit aid

[echo grove]

another thing is majority if not most people will not get the benefit of the college name to justify the amnt theyre paying especially if they take the loans

chances are they would have ended with the same if not similar level job that makes them as much

[native steppe]

yeah

[viscid wind]

not sure but iirc they plan to keep expanding the class size

tho this was smth i remember from a while back so idk if it's true

[plain plover]

no def not. thats why im glad i didnt get in because i knew i wouldnt be going so i would much rather someone who wants it have it

[echo grove]

i see many people including friends who want to go to top colleges because they want a billionaire connection which will never happen

[echo grove]

these people have their own social circles

[viscid wind]

from yale's college page

[echo grove]

for every 100 ppl they add to the class they will likely get more and more ppl applying

so the rate will still be going down

[native steppe]

The divide will always be class

[echo grove]

the amnt of billionaires is so low

[native steppe]

I'm sure social mobility is easier at a higher ranked uni

[viscid wind]

the us college system is factually skewed to favor higher classes

[native steppe]

But these circles have been established for centuries

[viscid wind]

arguing otherwise is hilariously painful

[echo grove]

genuinely not even 3-5% of ppl at these colleges will benefit from the connections to get to another level of social standing

most ppl will work a regular 9-5 job which is fine

[plain plover]

college was never designed to be for people who weren’t rich. go back 500 years

its not just the us

[native steppe]

I wish I had that graph comparing % of students per income bracket at elite institutions

[echo grove]

but to think you will meet some a startup engineering who will become a billionaire and hook u up is laughable

[viscid wind]

50% of duke students come from the top 1% of the wealth bracket iirc

[native steppe]

Is roadmap not on insta??

[echo grove]

if thats true that would be crazy

i do find it hard to believe

20% of duke is fgli

[viscid wind]

i would not be surprised if it was

[plain plover]

gonna kms ig!!

[echo grove]

it would be less than 30% are middle class which i still find hard to believe

[viscid wind]

it's smth around that statistic off the top of my head

[echo grove]

if not less than 30%

[plain plover]

im gonna make a friend and they’re gonna say something super elite and im gonna die

[echo grove]

because many ppl can not be fgli and also be in a lower income bracket

[restive rain]

Ahh that’s fair

[plain plover]

its like when someone on a2c told me it was “just a 1000” to spend

[viscid wind]

not really; income distributions for colleges do show up as bimodal because low income families become elligible for more aid beyond a threshold

and above a threshold they dont need any aid to pay in full

[plain plover]

wdym just..

[echo grove]

sure

[plain plover]

like mama…

[echo grove]

but i dont think 50% are in the top 1%

maybe more ppl are in the top 1% than bottom 50%

i would say majority going are middle class

[viscid wind]

i mean....

i literally attend duke

[echo grove]

but there are way more ppl in the 1% attending relative to the population

[viscid wind]

i can tell you

that the top 1%

is disproportionately represented

the middle class is also considerably the smallest group

[echo grove]

you're saying that for every 2 ppl at duke, one of them family is worth at least 10 million dollars

[viscid wind]

top 1% of annual income hovers around 1 million

[echo grove]

NY times says 19% of Duke

[viscid wind]

i would not be surprised if that percentage was much larger in the class body

[echo grove]

1 million income isnt insane and 1% is around 700-750k

10-11 million networth is which is what requires to be in the 1% in America

19% makes sense though

fgli is around 20% at duke

[native steppe]

Does anyone have an nyt sub lol https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/09/11/upshot/college-income-lookup.html

[echo grove]

its not like theyre admitting ppl that are in the 1% they just so happen to have better odds of getting in cuz of more app prep, test prep, and more focused on the college process

[viscid wind]

i re-checked that statistic

[echo grove]

also the 19% figure i said is ppl who's parents make enough salary to be in the 1%

[viscid wind]

"69% [of duke students] [come] from the top 20% of earners" by median family income

[plain plover]

yeah

[echo grove]

so the amnt of ppl who are in the 1% net worth at duke is def much less

[native steppe]

Search up Duke pls 😭

My ol tricks failing me here

[echo grove]

not that crazy tbh

[native steppe]

Is income percentile for the whole us?

[viscid wind]

that is absolutely crazy btw

[echo grove]

i doubt even 5% of the ppl attending duke are in the 1% of net worth

[echo grove]

to be in the top 20% US income is around 150k

so not really

[plain plover]

im not in that!

[echo grove]

i understand what i mean to say logically that ppl in higher income are gonna have more opportunities and more access for college prep and to go for advanced education

[viscid wind]

ok? 70% of duke students coming from 20% shows a very clear bias lol

[native steppe]

Seems we're 75th percentile (150k)

[viscid wind]

this is notably not a reason why higher education should slant so hard

[echo grove]

its not like theyre admitting in the top 20% those ppl just have more resources and better apps

the US gov needs to do something to fix this

to give more opportunities to people in every area especially underprivleaged areas

[viscid wind]

the us government is not solving this issue

[echo grove]

it'll always be infinitely harder for someone from a lower income household to compete with someone with a higher income household

[native steppe]

stony brook

[echo grove]

neither is Duke when they only have 2000 ppl attending its not going to fix the issue for society

why are we looking at 1 specific college rather than society as a whole

[viscid wind]

so perpetuting the cycle is the clear solution?

[echo grove]

nope

lets say next cycle duke admits 400 more kids that are in lower income brackets

it will not solve the problem for the rest of society still

[native steppe]

did u peep this @plain plover

Whole diff worlds i tell u

[viscid wind]

if your answer is "the US government needs to do something" please go take pubpol classes to understand why that's not reasonable

[echo grove]

can u tell me how 1 college can fix this when they admit 2k ppl

[native steppe]

aren't college attendance rates overall up?

[echo grove]

if ur a doctor its not

[viscid wind]

this is just the apathy argument

"1 person can't change something so why should i care and do anything about it"

[echo grove]

i literally said duke should factor it in

but its not a crazy thing to think about

why 70% are in the top 20% income wise

colleges should factor in socioeconomic conditions

at the end of the day these are private colleges so they can decide what agenda they want to meet and what goals we'll never know

[viscid wind]

duke is down again somehow

[echo grove]

but at the same time one can argue that to provide more spots specifically for this would take away spots from people who are in the middle class which leads the question to where colleges consider merit

[native steppe]

bad PR to choke in March madness every year

Houston and UConn chokes distracting from the NCSU game never even being close

Which in turn distracts from losing to UNC in coach K's last game

and so on...

Honestly insane how Duke is in a title drought when they're a top recruiting school every year and win 30+ games

They're too good so nobody stays because they get drafted freshman year

[viscid wind]

ncaa is like that

[native steppe]

Genuinely Duke would've been undefeated if Flagg and Kon stayed

One and done is gonna be the norm forever tbh NBA money is too good to pass up

[echo grove]

if they had boozer yes

[plain plover]

omg chloe got me..

[native steppe]

LMAO WHAT IS THIS

[echo grove]

its not insane as in f u money

yes, its way more than avg person making in America

[tidal bough]

bombaclart reject

https://tenor.com/view/f145-gif-21530498

[echo grove]

but after taxes its enough to live comfortably

[native steppe]

bomba clat

[restive rain]

Got in wtf

What is this name 💀

[native steppe]

u got yield protected from caltech

[restive rain]

LMAOO me too 😭😭

[restive rain]

Duke was my dream school for a minute and they have such good programs bruh fuckkkkk

[native steppe]

r u going

[restive rain]

I’d think ab it

Cuz they’re rly goated for conservation

[native steppe]

doooook

Wherever y'all go good luck, they'll be lucky to have you !!

And whoever decides to come to Durham, hope to see u there

[fossil notch]

Ooof

Dawg what is colorado college

[dusty axle]

It’s an LAC

[runic elbow]

Duke l

😭😢

[maiden apex]

are there any acceptance packages

for rd

[restive rain]

U too gangy, bro got into all the top schools in Nc 😭

[restive rain]

Gang u chanced me wrong ur streak is dead

[true creek]

Oop rejected

WHATS UP WITH MY NAME

Is this an April fools kinda thing 😭

[maiden apex]

Wlecome to usaf

[restive rain]

Nah Chloe chose where we’re ending up

[somber vigil]

didu get in

[lavish hatch]

No I got waitlisted

I’ll be attending upenn this fall

[somber vigil]

ayyy

[restive rain]

Also whoever was asking about the interviews for Duke I didn’t get one and got in so who knows how they work fr

[foggy fjord]

wait

WOW IM USC

not too far from unc

hehehe

[fleet scroll]

i just realized i could change my name back

[lost kraken]

bro discovered free will

[native steppe]

cracked

Well their wording is like "interviews prioritize for students where additional info is helpful"

Maybe yall didn't need it

It's funny seeing Duke save a lot of people

[restive rain]

They gave horrible aid tho 😹

Maybe they just wanted my money fr

[native steppe]

what was yours..

[restive rain]

Lmaoo for me it was with friends & I was just happy to be done w decisions but it was kinda wholesome 😭

[restive rain]

like… nothing

[native steppe]

Duke def still lags behind the others in aid

[restive rain]

I genuinely think I might’ve fucked up in my css or smth

[native steppe]

sheesh what??

What was your SAI?

[restive rain]

What’s that

[native steppe]

On fafsa

[restive rain]

css

intl

But on the Yale calc thing my contribution should’ve been like 12k

and my thing was highkey triple that so I might’ve fucked something up 💀

[native steppe]

It's worth trying to appeal if Duke is a top choice for you

[restive rain]

I’m waiting to hear back from a few external full ride scholarships but if those don’t work I’m prolly appealing my yale aid

[native steppe]

Do you/your family hold any liquidable assets

home, investments, business, property

[restive rain]

Nope we don’t even got a house gang 😭😭

[native steppe]

Oh that's weird

Yea css is complicated as hell

[restive rain]

Genuinely was happy to commit to mcgill

[native steppe]

I would def try to appeal

Duke's policy is 100% need

[restive rain]

I tried washu and they said they don’t do appeals for intls cuz it affects their need aware stuff

So I’ll try but I think either way yale is most realistic for me fr

Or stanny if I get the full ride

[native steppe]

Honestly I'd choose Yale over Duke

I just love Duke because I live in NC

[restive rain]

YAYY duke is such a goated school im so excited for you

I think yale!

[restive rain]

Nah duke is actually such a great school

I found so many cool opportunities when writing my why duke essay

I highkey fell in love

[native steppe]

Genuinely it has everything I want

I screamed when I opened the letter and scared my mom 😭😭

[restive rain]

This was me applying 💔💔

[restive rain]

LMAOO awww im so happy for you though that’s so exciting

Not sure how happy ur Tar Heel friends are gonna be when they find out but have the best time at duke fr

[native steppe]

I found this from when I toured

Does he know

[native steppe]

Omg they were mad

Sorry y'all $70k grant is 70k

[native steppe]

Also I didn't even apply for Pratt

Silly me

[restive rain]

Awww little did he know fr

BRO me too 😭😭

Cuz everyone was going crazy about duke interviews fr

All that to be accepted off yale wl 💔💔

Wait for starters u should def look at bass connections

Highkey that was some of the coolest things I found in all of my apps

[native steppe]

My interviewer was a doctor and he was at the hospital so the whole time I was scared an emergency would happen and he'd have to cut it short

[restive rain]

Nahhh I either got in or wl’ed at my interview schools all my girls clutched up for me 🥹🤞

Also got into washu and brown with the same video portfolio LMAOO

YESSS

[native steppe]

Yes!! Super cool thing about them

[restive rain]

I WROTE ABOJT THAT IN MY ESSAY 😭😭

[native steppe]

They emphasized this sm on the tour

[restive rain]

Cuz I wanna go into conservation

It was SUCH a cool thing to find out

Ayy yale clutched up tho

I was an auto reject for Harvard didn’t even get an interview 😹

U gotta send pics if u go

Ugh I’m so excited for you

Trust yale will continue to win Harvard v yale these next 4 years

[lethal bluff]

hey guys im struggling in choosing between duke northwestern ,jhu and rice

[restive rain]

YESSS

[native steppe]

Y'all gonna do all this to leave me alone in Durham

[lethal bluff]

i wanna do electrical or mech engineering

[native steppe]

smh

[restive rain]

Posting my commitment post to Daniel Caesar baby blue

Like ts is so tuff

[native steppe]

Cost at that point

[restive rain]

If she gets off that yale wl im convincing her asap fr

[lethal bluff]

duke and jhu is a full ride . haven't gotten nw and rice aid package yet

[restive rain]

YESS

[native steppe]

I had no idea what to post my letter to so I just put gods plan

[restive rain]

I saw some do it for unc and it was so cute

[native steppe]

💔 💔

[restive rain]

My friend told me to post to yale by Ken Carson 💀😭

[native steppe]

Cornball alert

Are there any Duke songs

Duke Dennis

[restive rain]

Shh not too much on her

[lethal bluff]

crazy pull

[restive rain]

She’s the goat fr

[native steppe]

That's unspoken rizz right there

[lethal bluff]

fax

[native steppe]

When the main and the side find out about each other ‼️

Yes!

I'm going to the one that's on friday

Cuz I don't have class that day

a2meetup..

I'm lowkey awkward though 💔

[native steppe]

Also my counselor is a UNC grad 😭

[odd narwhal]

LMAO

wtf is our names

[restive rain]

Naw gang 😔

Find me some free cute merch and ship it over pls

[restive rain]

LMAOO

[restive rain]

u better hope they send ur final transcript

My fedex girl ghosted me so idek if my yale package is even coming LMAOO

[native steppe]

LMAO we've had Duke admits in the past

I'm sure she does it, even if begrudgingly so

[odd narwhal]

also chat

Gtech MechE vs Duke

What really is better idek anymore 😭

[native steppe]

cost

I think tech is #3 for undergrad eng

[odd narwhal]

Fair enough lol

[native steppe]

Also school size

GT has 20.5k undergrads, Duke has 6.5k

Roughly

[restive rain]

I had to search duke merch… and I think I’m okay 💙💙

yale merch is so expensive tho I hope I get a free hoodie and sweater or something 😭

[restive rain]

LMAOO fingers crossed! ;)

[lavish hatch]

College merch is so expensive

[native steppe]

I'm not wearing ts yo

Lil devil 😭😭😭

Sound like a SoundCloud rapper

[restive rain]

LMAOOO wait this is kinda tea…

Was not aware that duke had a diva side

[viscid wind]

yes there should be

[maiden apex]

I have this old jacket my dad used to wear in 2012

[crystal spear]

did u apply for aid

cause if u didn’t ur gonna be cooked

[native steppe]

Lineup of doom