#University of Pennsylvania (UPenn) (2025-2026)
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did anyone fill out the challenges and circumstances or stuff like that i hope they read it
Yea
yea additional
penn is red and blue u gotta go full harley quinn
okkk tytytyty
LMAO
I filled out both challenges and add info
lets be real its mainly blue
Oh hell naw
π
Yea im doing blue highlights LMFAO
whoever made their logo fucked the dolphin up
red is tuff tho
i think i'm the first at my school to apply to an ivy at all for a decade
we can twin too
BRO I ASKED ABOUT THAT ON THE TOUR LMAOOOOOOO
SHITTY AHH DESIGN
thought it was a dragon in hs
Twinnem β€οΈ
ayyy twin
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did anyone else do the wharton youth investment comp?
penns mascot pmo. Like why. Why are we sporting an old dude who's also the logo for quaker oats
good luck guys you'll be competing against my cousins....
LMAO REAL
oh boy
umass amherst is just as bad bc their mascot is a fucking minuteman π
tell them to chill plz
i hate the minuteman more than the quaker
i want to get accepted to take your spot...you want to get accpeted to get in we are not the same
What state
yall lucky ur not doing CS i got a skating buddy whos a olympian, youth olympic gold medalist, 4x world cup/champs us national team top 0.5% leet code applying ts year
that's true, they'll only be competing against people in that general region
i was boutta say
as someone from washington π
king county?
oh i thought you were saying you're also from washington lmao
Nah π
What the fuck
i thought it was more on a state level
i'm checking rn
I think its bt region
REA to stanford
Penn has like
i cant wait for my king to get in
it's by region
regional as in?
mid atlantic and sstuff
midwest region or intra state type region
That theres 9 kids from my school rea stanford
Midwest
and some are by state
East west south
damn
oh wait- they have whole teams dedicated to regions
hope they beat yall out in the region then lowkey
with one person in that team more or less dedicated to each state
Freak my baka life
πΏ im gonna touch them
u go to a feeder what the hell?
oh shit west and midwest are joined together with the same admissions team
yeah well the 12 people in the west and midwest can clash out
ππππ
guys did anyone do research and get a rec letter from a professor?
how manh apps come from ny bro π
one AO is looking at 14 different states π
I heard the philly region has a regional AO per feeder school
COOKED β€οΈ
COOKED β€οΈ
what bro
yes
i did
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE AO FOR MY STATE IS ALSO THE AO FOR CALIFORNIA
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
but i couldn't submit for Penn
SCREW MY LIFE
BAY AREA KIDS ARE GONNA DESTROY ME
no the bay area
i asked about my rec letter he said i have the finaical knowlege of a grad student
isnt bay area a whole diff region
yeah
for cali
i couldnt read it but i could ask
just make nyc a region too
@verbal drum i stalked my AO on linkedin
they actually have an interest in environmental
action
now you send them blackmail threats
its not the same AO for every single application yo
wait that's true- maybe i'll be competiting against some rando cali kids in the very north π
regional AO dude
the regional AO will be looking at mine
Thank β€οΈ god β€οΈim actually midwest
and i found that AO
β€οΈ
Some ppl in my class said they blacklisted a lot of the bay for β29 cuz they overadmitted for β28
thats a freaky obsession
very credible sources huh
and found the person
and then went to the linkedin
and saw where they went to high school
the AO for wisconsin is looking at illinois and indiana too
can u find the one for wisconsin i wanna see if i know them
caroline b
did u listen to what i said
Not me ππ
Now that i think of it doe ik more ppl from the south than from cali
i mean its hard to not fw the environment
i feel the defer in my mind already
Region bias is a thing defo
wdym
no like there entire thing
a big portion
is w the environemnt
so yeah
i feel good abt that
but idk what happened with the rest of the AOs
π
or the committee
alr whatever enough crashing out
What if i fast for the next 7 days
Will this incresse my chances @verbal drum
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yeah no one in my school when i applied even EDed to penn, and no one applied for finance except me
you will reach enlightment
i'm confused. My AO's name on the site is billy g (which is hilarious to me for no reason) but a guy I found on linkedin who says he's an admissions counselor for penn has his name as billy p
LOL
dude
yk
they out
pu
put
I heard if u acheive nirvannah thats a π² tier ec
nick names
whats the chances there's two billys
Shiii
If i get deferred iβll put that on my loci
i need to see pics of a different angle but so far he's pretty fine
yea
if u had an interview you should've kissed him
to secure ur admission
Maybe heβll interview u and u can try to kiss him
Like that yale guy
getting a defer should count as an honor
HAHAHAHAHAA
π
exactly lol
sorry- into asians man π
Is defer from wharton a good sign
??
billy g kinda looks like dahmer
i donated a couple buildings already your screwed
@chilly stream i think your right they seem to specifically avoid admitting too many nyc bay area NJ kids
Im gonna get them demolished dont worry
Oh my days
oh my AO is natalie k @red flower
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All ik abt this is they have a quota for greater philly kids
And its a hard set one
there is no natalie k
i think
guys i cant tell if i think im being too cocky thinking i have a chance at getting in or im delusional and im gonna get auto rejected
Oh!
i mean charlie k π
ctrl f is finding natalie z
also it appears that they have specific AOs for a small in state region and it isnt the same AOs for the whole midwest west region
WE ARE CHARLIE KIRKKK
i know its accept 14-16% but thats general for ED
charlie
we carry the flame
For midwest states?
yes
just search it up
oh- he's ok
on google
it just logically makes sense too
one AO is not handling thousands of applications in 1 month
what are you on dude π
wait wdym
like i thought
th
charlie k person
i'm in a rabbit hole of finding the most attractive AO on the UPENN admissions team lmao
is doing regions of that
their sketches do not do them justice
brother π
surely there are better things to do
ew my AO is like a 3/10
wow
bro it's not me
yes actually, I have like 2 finals I have to do tonight but I'm still in panic mode from my C so Im finding smth else to do
Im lowk gonan shit my pants bruh
lock in
dj v is like a 5/10 at most
ur not wrong
Penn ahh background icl
this is a frat boy fit btw
HOW r u finding these
THIS IS A PENN AO?
lol wdym
XDD
dude looks like my asian distant relative i would see at a dinner party
fr
LMFAOOOOOOOOAOOAAOA
bro π
maybe he's the holistic review AO
"dj v upenn admissions linkedin"
u guys are all going through the linkedin stuff
Oh dang i was tryna find it on linkedin itself
wow
shes gonna be my cousins
HEAR ME OUT BILLY P IS LIKE A 6 OR 7 POTENTIALLY AN 8 BC THAT JAWLINE IS NOT IT BUT IT MIGHT JUST BE THE ANGLE
not everyone gotta have a v shaped jawline
he a baddie
bro you know our fucking state is irrelevant as shit when one AO is handling Wisconsin, and 2 other states alone
fuck man
she looks... nice. Just nice. like 6.5/10
maybe a 7
she looks midwestern
bro why we rating aos
cuz why not
dayummmm 7/10
oh wow
ggs
your in
your so right bro she screams environmental activists
theyre all 10/10s
BRO IKR
now let me in
LOOOOL
yeah u hit the jackpot bud
bro she also has SWOT analysis
and i had that exact same thing on my additional info
business + environmenttttt
swot analysis is so basic
sure hope so dude
well okay
but what do these
AOs
even know
we need to foster relatability
Like a lot?? ππ
ykyk
bro u think they're doing DCF valuations and stuff
π
hell nah
Bro they deffff know swot analysis isnt deep tho i feel
or actually idk
nah i know i know
exactlyyy
that's what i meant
it's just wild
such a coincidence
billy g looks like the type of person to reject me π
which of them looks like the type of person to accept you π
nah im joking lol
kat d π
i'm lowkey surprised billy g is in charge of the west coast
like he went to school in new hampshire
thats the new west coast man
he was in oregon for... you guessed it... 6 weeks
okieee i go do my finals
glgl
im kinda pissed i didn't do ed
could've done wharton ED yes
lol
idek if i wanna know
my answer or not tbh
penn oh penn pls make finals disappear π
How does being a first gen affect us?
Who bro
penn is bad
upenn should reject me
wharton is toxic
I would reject them for accepting me
although it's interesting that so many people got rejected for princeton. Like last years poll was much better. But this year was supposed to be better bc of the administration and less intl applicants
so I wonder if upenn is gonna be worse this year too
but ig unlike penn, they didn't require sat/act so maybe their applicant pool didn't go down as much
why was it worse this year?
it was a massacre
is it bcz most of the people are intls and not domestic?
that's what I'm wondering. Like i get that it's a small applicant pool on A2C compared to the entire pool of REA but I hear it's bad even on reddit
idk lemme check
kk
what poll?
the poll is not reflective of the massacre
the A2C one in the megathreads
nvm it's too hard to check all that lmao
but from a quick look it didn't look like that many intls
thats good then
im an intl
what massecre?
seems like the deferral rate online is inaccurate if u look into it thats smth from pre-2014
idt it was ever that high maybe its getting lower every year
the sheer amount of people who got rejected rea lmao
lets say it was like 60% last year
it may be 20-30%
but i really dont think it was ever abv 50%
i mean- i was looking at the one in discord
there isnt any tho
i just looked into it cuz i saw sm1 say on reddit its not accurate
hmm
penn has no REA?
and its true
but i was looking at accepted people
and it seems to be all north america
we're talking about princeton
i cant access this channel
what about penn for intls. what do u think
weird
yo if anything i think what rlly shocked me is that if ur not a recruited athlete, URM/first gen, QB or legacy its acc way more difficult in REA/ED
mind sending a screenshot
that's not true
no clue. Supposedly it's not supposed to be great bc of pressure from the administration to accept more domestic students
i think it is to a degree because the % rate for REA isnt rlly refelctive
no
and visa issues-
theyre gonna fill most of teh spots tehy want with those kids
obv ther ewill be kids who dont fit that
from what i've found, REA either is neutral or gives a slight boost. the not effective stuff is more of a misconception
for like recruited athlete I think people overestimate how many people are getting recruited for this. They only recruit a certain amount to replace graduating students and most sports teams aren't that big
18% of princeton is recruited tho
so thats almost 1 in 5 kids getting in
and they'll p much all gonna get in REA (what i think)
well idk if its 18% but thats what im getting online
i think the main issue is that ppl r just getting statistics from the AI on google nad using that
like the 80% defer rate isnt true at all ik for harvard it is but not princeton
they havent even posted it since 2014 and princeton hasnt even posted an acceptance rate in the last 5 years
@red flower what's your SAT score if u don't mind sharing
i don't think they release this info publicly. Unless someone was to go around to each princeton sports team roster and count the new freshman
its what im getting online
its from the princeotn own newspaper too
but penn didnt accept the deal?
again i think recuriting works diff because if they have more spots open that particular year theyll likely take more kids
1480- which it's not that bad. 20 points away from what would be ideal
i wasn't retaking that shit
i think the main thing is ive been seeing cracked ppl top of their class with just insane awards get deferred
they can pay the $60 since they're rich
which is just rlly crazy imo
ah okay
just goes to show nth is guarnteed
deal? I figured it was just the administration rejecting a bunch of visas
idk i haven't been keeping up with the news lately
but i dont think more than 15% of the class size tbh
ik penn is like 25%
for past years international
i'm looking at that rn and i think it's just talking about the test scores that recruited athletes have from a survey
no, theyve stopped doing that now (i think). they proposed some kind of deal and penn rejected that
doesn't matter
rlly its in the first line of the newspaper?
im cooked then
18% is quite a lot tho
Princeton has a similar ratio, an admission rate of only 7% but athletes constitute 20% of the undergraduate population
i might be looking at a different link https://projects.dailyprincetonian.com/frosh-survey-2029/academics.html
Academics section of the Frosh Survey for the Princeton Class of 2029.
UPenn??
bro i really hope soo
which athletes look like they have a noticeably lower average in test scores but also like- how many athletes who have been training for all their lives are gonna have a lot of time to dedicate to studying for a test
yo idk i think ED/REA is mainly for ppl who are going to be legacy, recruited, minority or a type of student thaat they just rlly want to admit now than RD
i agree but i think its still a bit too much of the class
when u start adding all the other types of students
the counselors i've talked w
don't agree with that
the avg person doesnt comrpomise a lot
i would disagere with them its legit in teh stats
im not sure how theyre gonna argeu with that
but they've been doing this for years & also they know the AOs
i'm still not seeing where it says 20% π
obv ppl who are avg will get in who dont fit those things
so what bro no one knows the process works thats complete cap just to get money
the avg person who is cracked lol
like i'm looking at princeton btw so maybe you're looking at a different newspaper for penn
im looking at princeton btw
yea ppl with stellar ecs and olympiads got defered this year
& u need a spike
stuff that would get u into MIT
but
did they write good essays
where are you finding 20% from π
also
theers no but its obv a fluke
bro u said this year
just this year?
wdym just this year
alr i mean
if anything I just found 10% from a survey
no point in arguing
its 18%
altho that's from co 2028
Comprising 18 percent of Princeton's undergraduate student body, athletes play a significant role in Princeton's campus culture
ok look its the closest we have u realize that
ppl were throwing the 80% defer rate too which is legit from pre-2014
... that's from the entire student body
that's all 4 years
yea thats why i said i think it depends eveyr year
not from one incoming class
I COULDVE TOLD YOU THAT BUT I WAS SAYING THAT PER YEAR IT'S STILL NOT GONNA BE A HUGE AMOUNT
how does that make a differnce?
doesn't that average?
it could be anywhere from 10-20%
each year they only replace the graduating students
so you're saying
like
its prob 15%
so 18% is 18% from the entire 10000 students
but only a small percentage of that 18% is going to be graduating and be replaced
hes saying that if 5% leave theyll only admiting 5% more
ye- there's only so many spots on a roster
wut
wait
20% is crazy
hes right
like- a standard tennis team is only 9 people. If 2 seniors graduate then only 2 tennis athletes will be recruited in the next year
yes but lets say each class size is 25%
so 5/25 = 25%
yo idk it doesnt matter
bro
recreuited will mostly get in REA
how are you not understanding this
im not a senior lmao
bro
either im tripping
or ur math is wrong
accident
yo my point is regardless of the actual # theyre gonna takem ost in REA if u think otehweise idk how because these kids have commited to going here long before so its why theyre gonna apply REA
no stop @torpid merlin
lets pretend princeton has 1000 total students
bro im actually so confused what
.
1500 out of 9000 total students are athletes, right? If only 200 students graduate, then the amount will go down to 1300 and they'll need to recruit 200 more students in the upcoming admissions cycle to replace
yea hes right
but we wouldnt know the exact amnt
each year
etiher way more atheltes are coming in REA
theres rlly no reaso nfor them to do RD
if theyre recurited
uk taht right
i mean- you could. It would just be a massive headache to figure it out
yea what im tryna say is that
REA is too misleading
if ur not legacy, minority, first gen, QB, or athlette its not that big of a boost all those kids will get priority if theyre on par with u in terms of app and ecs and even ppl with wrose calibre will get in over u if they have that
but people think that there's like a thousand athletes applying REA and realistically it'll only be a few hundred and they're not all guaranteed admission. The coach gets a lot of input but not the final decision
so honestly the recruited athlete number could be relatively high but the actual admitted recruited athletes could be much lower assuming the coach tries to recruit more than he needs in case some get rejected
this is my thought process
lets pretend princeton has 1000 total students. 250 per class. 20 percent of 1000 = 200. the athletes will be split equally among each class no? 200/4=50. seniors leave = 50 athletes gone. u need to get 50 athletes in the next class. 50/250=20%.
Like unless ur saying that somehow freshman dont have the athletes. and the athletes are majority senior. like somehow non athletes become athletes or that they transfer, i dont get how this doesn't work
@craggy cloak
is there some flaw here or smth
why did you divide 50/250
because i'm talking about the % of students in the incoming class that are athletes
the incoming class has 250 students
yes
the math doesnt matter guys
yeah but it's not evenly split which is the problem. The incoming class has ~1000 students. If they need 50 athletes then they're only gonna recruit and admit 50 so it'll be 50 in this class
this doesnt mater
now, if 250 graduate, then the incoming class will be 250
lets change the course of this convo
no the incoming class
doesnt have
1000 studnts
this is a matter of mathematical principles now
bro
no lets change
yo it doesnt matter
your wording was confusing
the truth is tbh ur better off getting in RD than REA in terms of u being a cracked person but no hooks
u rlly need a hook to max ur chances out for REA
like kinda? but your math ish depends on the athletes being equaally distributed
max ur chances
did u even apply?
yo the thing is CC's will say stuff so u pay for them
is scaring me
bro ED has an advantage
if anything its good for u lmao
he's saying that
ED has an advatnage but def not REA
ED doesn't??
i think ED has slight but its not that crazy tbh
REA def doesnt have one but ED does
bro you've been crashing out for the longest time
ED has a good advatnage cuz ur gonna pay but its not as crazy as it seems
okay yeah
REA has no advatnage anywyas and it shows
I'm saying that there's not that many recruited athletes applying REA as people think π
it does depend on the athletes beind distributed
like yall act as if thousands of recruited athletes are taking up 50% of the ED spots
my only concern with my logic was that somehow the athletes were not distributedd
equally
or whatever
bro i think ED has an advantage
if this were true they would have been better at sports
i mean- realistically they aren't. It might've started that way a long time ago but that's likely changed
i think ur right its not as many but i think still like when u tally upp all the stuff that colleges want all these diff groups its just a bit upsetting knowing that u rlly have a lower chance even if ur super cracked cuz they rather have sm1 else who qualifies for smth like a specific group or smth
it def does but not as big as it seems
eveyrone applying ED is willing to pay uk that right
im just gonna get my 17 apps done somehow and pray dude π
atp idek
what r ur stats @torpid merlin
u seem like a very cracked person
sm1 with US math camp got deferred princeton btw
which means its over for all the regular joes
some athletes have to retire early and leave the sport or some straight up die so it becomes uneven over time
nah
stop capping
if i get in wharton
u can call me cracked sure
for now
no
didn't this happen to a lot of people
no thats acc p rare lol
yall haven't met stew yet
us math camp is rlly good and its p much getting u into MIT even with nth else
same
broo we haven't met you yet
even usamo or other olys r p much enough if u have a complete app
π
if its ur only thing then maybe no
im like
its smth u cant control
future class of β30
like how its all unpredictable
of Wharton
bro you're gonna watch me get rejected
straight up
watch
meet stew. A canadian student who has applied to wharton ED this year
if ur not hooked applying REA its p hard
awards?
SAT
he has an absurd amount of volunteering hours, bilingual, 1550 SAT, all 5's for AP
this is good but idk if its good enough
how many APs
also what awars
awards
does he have
like 6. He's in canada tho so I assume he just doesn't have that many available to him
@red flower whered u apply
deca and swim too
I donβt think Iβd accept
deca provincial champion π
that's like states
yea ur overrating it
i agree
canadian version of states
top 10 intl medalist
he has a state award
business finance
i mean that's good
@torpid merlin whats ur best thing @red flower
@torpid merlin whats ur best thing @red flower
i'm a grandmaster at a variant of chess
tyty π
yo i feel like with college apps like so many ppl r cracked like its rlly hard to say why sm1 didnt get in uk what i mean
he didn't do that much if I remember correctly. He only did like one or two events
no i mean
there are 5 award slots
what is he gonna
do with the rest
i don't freaking know he has like 10 he could choose from π
wait what oher
good ones
like does he have
4 other
natonal
national
intl
awards
he's cracked. A lot of internships, awards, high test scores, great academics, pretty sure child of an immigrant, etc
yea this is like chancesomeoneelse
@red flower whered u REA/ED
he's such a typical asian child man. He literally has an award for piano
upenn
bro that's what im saying
i dont see a spike
his ECs seem random
he has what 6 APs
itβs genetic too
he has one intl award
generic
only?
and like his SAT is good but not
outstanding
idk
international
applicant too?
asian?
like idk
all his ecs are just internships bru
yes
i dont see any spike
any focus
any vision
is it? volunteering, finance job, finance competition events, a sport, random other economics/business competitions, a job with his church, and a couple more
unhooked applciant in REA is cooked tbh
yes
its just a well rounded
kid
whats ur best thing
this is random
and generic
bro if that's random then what's a spike π
lmfao
you're delulu bruh π
no i think he is right
a bunch of internships in equity and finance plus business comps is not random
bro we've seen how cooked admissions are LOL
we might need other opinions but letβs just stop this conversation here
the reality of this thing lol
π
LOL
yeah
good luck good luck
btw dude
what's your best thing
emotionally (ocassionally physical) abusive household, child of paranoid veteran, child of immigrant, generational trauma, rural, and racism
@weary dove
ooh also zero public transport and too broke for gas
are you okay dude
surviving
so if my ec's seem shitty then you can pay the $10 in gas for each trip to my school and the $10 to get back home
you got this
trust
barely- depression and isolation on top of this hit hard in 7th π
π
I should've written my personal essay on how I was almost an alcoholic in 7th
life will get better in college
i mean- his privileges are kinda just normal, asian kid who happens to live in a city. idk what more you're expecting from him
lol ok
i'm sorry dude but i'm literally just being for real
wharton is cooked like out of our minds
my discord has a glitch
i've been saying that for a while- I consider myself quite grounded on this lol.
i was like weird
wtf
im not saying this for you
im saying this for the canadian person
i wish you the best
it happens on the web sometimes i need to reload
immma try locking in now fr
no itβs the website discord thatβs why Iβll switch to the app
idk, I'll be interested to see his results. He's also just a chill, grounded person in general so I imagine his essays will be able to match that. He's pretty humble, I'm just highly impressed with his app.
which essays r u done with
ah okay
i can tell
he seems like a good person
This abt me right πππ
Lmao
like I literally can't think of anything else he'd be able to do. He even has bullshit research on his app which he also thinks is bullshit ironically lmao
idt he plans to put it on his app bc he knows it's bullshit π
yeah...
thankfully
rec letters
have to support
are they getting rec letter writers
to lie for them
as well
do they give the school teacher false ECs?
Lowkey everyone embellishes a little bit
tbf- idt my teachers could prove my ec's even if they really wanted to. Like my school does volunteering and says to count your volunteering hours but they don't track it themselves lol. So I could put down any number and as long as it's about 50 hours close to the actual number then they'd believe it
they do
they're cooked if the recs don't support
imo
if the recs and everything do not support
colleges will not believe
everything needs to match up
trust me
i was gonna do that for FBLA. I was gonna lie about being voted in for president bc I should have been but we got a bullshit new teacher who threw out all the chapter rulees we had in place π
pmo
idk
we had a rule previously when I joined as a sophomore that "you can't run for president unless you've had a prior leadership role in fbla" THIS FUCKING SOPHOMORE WON THE PRES VOTE DESPITE ONLY HAVING JOINED FOR ONE YEAR WITH NO LEADERSHIP POSITION EXPERIENCE
AND SHE'S DOING A SHIT JOB RUNNING THE CLUB LO AND BEHOLD
no cuz like it pmo so bad. I'm in online school which was not a problem before bc the pres would just upload the presentation slides online that I could read through and see any dates but she won't fucking do that bc she hasn't had any leadership experience
and then FBLA is supposed to have had like 2 volunteering or fundraising projects by now but she also hasn't done any of that π
and ik there's been volunteering opportunities at our school bc i've been doing them outside of the club
you'll be fine
i was fine. Until I signed up for events last minute and my teacher passive aggressively told me off for not communicating and not formally tellling him that I didn't in fact quit π
i meant everything will work out eventually
the hypocrisy still has me tweaking
tiger mom?
nah quite the opposite
she just wants me to get in my top choice
what u ed
what eds r coming today
stanford