Princeton University (2025-2026)

[solid dawn]

yooo…..

at least i won’t have to do my finals then

[boreal ivy]

my finals are prolly cancelled cause of actual bomb threats

[solid dawn]

pton doesn’t really like the random nonprofits

tbh

those kids can go to harv and stanf and yale

[snow nacelle]

i guess im Worried cuz im like a music production person but applied engineering so idk

music prod is my passion

but So is comp engineering

i felt like what i wrote was good but also i might be way off the mark icl

[solid dawn]

☠️

[sand pagoda]

😭

[snow nacelle]

its ok we can be cooked together

[fair eagle]

whats a hs soph doing here

[proud shell]

lwk 😭

[knotty jolt]

are we not supposed to

[solid dawn]

☠️

sorry i’m not trying to be a hater

they can be good

depends if they accomplished anything

[snow nacelle]

wtf like on your additional info or sum?

[snow nacelle]

DId u do ea or just rd?

[knotty jolt]

noone gets into princeton scea apparently atleast from India

whch is very weird ngl

[snow nacelle]

Anyone know if deferral is like autoreject for princeton

[tender lava]

no its not

[woeful tulip]

do yk if anyone got into pton from india w/out an interview?

[snow nacelle]

Thank you, I didn't see any rates they had recently online, all the figures are old idk if it was just soft rejection sim

[tender lava]

deferral just pushes you back to the RD pool and they compare you to the RD kids

do you know pton rea deferral rate? is it like harvard where everyone is deferred

[snow nacelle]

The last figure is from like 2010

[tender lava]

okay so its not like harvard

yeah you have a decent chance ngl deferred isnt 100% bad

[snow nacelle]

It's pretty high from that figure but they also haven't released in a while. If the poll is anything to go its a little middle of the road

[tender lava]

harvard only 1 person got rejected rea

everyone deferred almost

[tender lava]

I think a princeton deferral isnt a bad sign

since they definitely dont defer everyone

[snow nacelle]

for sure yeah

Idk if they'll like my LOCI. it had one big achievement im proud of i figured my midyear would speak for my grades since the achievement was more important to me

we'll see what happens tho. nonzero chance they aren't moved.

[tender lava]

this is good I dont think everybody has major updates for LOCI so it may help you

[snow nacelle]

Yeah, albeit it was kind of a weird one. im a game modder and i had a big like yearlong project release pretty successully but it might fly over their heads

[tender lava]

For domestics: Princeton EA deferral rate last year was 78.9% and 21.1% of rejected. Of these 78.9% EA deferred applicants last year, 9.5% got in RD (you can expect 5% to 10% any year).

are you domestic?

those are pretty decent rates imo

[snow nacelle]

I'm domestic yeah

[tender lava]

yeah dw u got a good shot still

dude i just hate waitlists though 😭

theyre kinda scary

its like a sense of false hope

[snow nacelle]

colleges reallllly love stringing you along man

it feels almost mean

[snow nacelle]

it feels kinda unfair especially cause kids are expected to commit to other places idk i really hate how this all works to be perfectly honest

[solid dawn]

dw about it vro

you’ll be aight

[solid dawn]

no it means they wanna consider you

i know quite a few deferral admits

[solid dawn]

i think it’s like 20%

similar to yale and stanf

[snow nacelle]

Good, I know some schools basically consider it a pre reject

my friend didnt even send a loci to uchicago cus of the deferral rate

[tender lava]

Someone said 10% on Reddit

For domestic

That’s good tho compared to regular rd rate lmao

[snow nacelle]

10% admitted or 10% deferred?

[tender lava]

Admitted from deferral

In the regular round

[snow nacelle]

not half bad honestly

i mean it’s not exactly promising since ive been on a bit of a rejection streak but hey man who knows

idk i figure the odds are pretty stafked against me but i eas proud of what I wrote on the loci

[alpine oxide]

someone from my school last year got deferred and in during rd

so its possible

im hoping that person is me this year lol

a good loci and midyear report def helps

[alpine oxide]

id imagine the deferrel rate was lower this year given 34% of ppl from here got deferred (and thats probably higher than the true proportion bc a2c is a bad sample)

[snow nacelle]

my loci was a little unconventional (im a game modder and i had a big release witb 50k+ downloads and 100k+ yt views so u talked mostly about that) and my midyear was overall good

[alpine oxide]

better than nothing!

[snow nacelle]

hoping we both get in 🤞🤞🤞🤞esp cuz ur repping the severance pfp

[snow nacelle]

i sure hope so cause it was unironically over a years worth of work 🥹

i know like mant people have major olympiad things or otherwise but hopefully they like the angle i took!!!

[alpine oxide]

thats honestly kinda just a small number of admits

[alpine oxide]

also its def not a soft rejection bc some really cracked kids from my school got completely rejected, including a cmu admit 😭

[snow nacelle]

as long as i still have a chance 😭

[snow nacelle]

that’s true, but I also feel like this process has put me up against people that have done more baseline impressive and educafionally related things than me whereas i chased a passion and am gambling on AOs seeing it shine through in me

[solid dawn]

it’s definitely not cumulative

they prefer one purpose over like unrelated raw achievement

[solid dawn]

my app didn’t have any intellectual/educational awards or research and they were fine with it

[snow nacelle]

thats reassuring, thank you!!!

[knotty jolt]

@woeful tulip ur a debater tho, they take 1 debater every year from india

[knotty jolt]

3 last year

[woeful tulip]

and why do you assume i'm a debater 😭

[woeful tulip]

oh okay

[solid dawn]

guys do not come here 💔💔💔

just submitted my 5th and last midterm paper and it’s literally the week after spring break too

11k words across 37 pages 💔

campus looks pretty until they make you do that

[tender lava]

wait i thought u said it was amazing

[tender lava]

LMAO this guy sounding like my alumni interviewer

[solid dawn]

mind changed

perspective uprooted

[tender lava]

Damn

[solid dawn]

jk lol love pton

🐅🐅🐅

roarrrrr

[tender lava]

I better get in

JHU waitlist

[solid dawn]

i’m just so tired

[tender lava]

Lmao u should sleep

[plucky ore]

We will manifest that acceptance next week

[tender lava]

37 pages is wild

[tender lava]

Right right

[solid dawn]

average pton midterm season day is like 3-5 hours of classes and then an exhaustion nap and then library writing papers until collapse

and then you get to walk back to your dorm in 28 degree weather

#deadpoetsociety core

😭😭😭

[tender lava]

LMAO fuck bro can I study in my dorm

Or is that impossible

[solid dawn]

you can but i struggle cause like my room is a cognitive signal to sleep

i get sleepy

[tender lava]

Ahh I see

[solid dawn]

it helps to place a barrier between yourself and bed

like a 10 minute walk and cold

[tender lava]

Ima just lock myself in a room that’s how i normally study

[tender lava]

Damnit bro

I’m in Texas

[solid dawn]

like i had no schedule for today i just made it to the library at 9pm and decided id leave once last paper submitted

and finished at like 1am and that was that

[solid dawn]

yeah it was like 8 9 7 7 6

the problem is when profs think it’s fine to give a midterm where the requirement is 2500-3000 pages

[tender lava]

Bro I fucking hate my high school

I want to graduate now

[tender lava]

DAMN

[solid dawn]

and then that’s just one of 4-5 courses ☠️

[tender lava]

Bro

How long do u get to write these

[plucky ore]

The perfect combo is probably
Undergrad: Princeton
Grad: MIT/CMU

Since Princeton is number 1 in undergrad. Right next to IAS as well

[tender lava]

Just do quant bro

[solid dawn]

hmm i mean usually humanities essays are like choose your one prompt or follow general guidelines prompting

and that’s often articulated on the syllabus from the start

but also you can’t just start midterms papers whenever i guess cause sometimes the instructions are diffused in class or sent with more clarity 1-2 weeks before due date

[plucky ore]

Stanford is perfect for both undergrad and grad imo
That’s why I said convo

If I get Stanford I will go both from there

[solid dawn]

i’d say 1-2 weeks

but it can be hard cause you still have to do readings for regular classes, other weekly assignments, deal with your independent research, go to various prof office hours on top of writing the papers

they treat us like phd students 💔

[solid dawn]

yes🐅🐅🐅

pton on 🔝 always

[solid dawn]

it’s fine that happened to me too

they waitlist goats…..🐐

[plucky ore]

Have you ever visited IAS?

[solid dawn]

yeah of course

[plucky ore]

Dub

How was it?

[solid dawn]

it’s cool, i went to the pond where they filmed the scene with einstein in oppenheimer

[plucky ore]

Nice. Probably the most intellectually influential place of all time

Gödel, Einstein, Oppenheimer, etc

Did you get the chance to talk to any of the researchers?

[solid dawn]

it’s beautiful in the fall and it’s just like a 20 minute walk from campus or so

ias

[solid dawn]

naw i mean im in the philosophy department lol

i study philosophy english and classics

so ias is more of a cool princeton thing for me than a research institute to seriously engage in

i think some ias affiliates should be actively teaching professors though ?

[tender lava]

Waitlist warriors 😭😭

Pton in a week bruh

Ts scary

[plucky ore]

Looks goated

[plucky ore]

I think professors from all over the country are also affiliates there

[alpine oxide]

im a defer warrier

i will be the first person to be deferred from regular decision

[hybrid hazel]

Oh wtf

[hybrid hazel]

Whats ur major

Is that why

[plucky ore]

He mentioned Philosophy above so I assume that

[hybrid hazel]

Well that makes sense then

[idle jetty]

u go to princeton right do uk if its 20%?

[solid dawn]

☠️☠️☠️

[solid dawn]

i think it’s close to that

[snow nacelle]

Real shit

[solid dawn]

philosophy

[queen current]

for everyone else im assuming

lol

[boreal ivy]

When

What email

[queen current]

they just sent me an eamil syaing "you may view your decisions"

"on March 26th"

like a minute ago, not even

[boreal ivy]

Didn’t get it yet

[queen current]

let me know when it comes in for you

[snow nacelle]

Got it like literally right now

[queen current]

did u happen to apply to brown?

[queen current]

same lol

[boreal ivy]

Yes, ED rejected

[queen current]

I was just gonna say bc they swnt out a very similar email to RD people I think yesterday

or day before cant remember

[boreal ivy]

Oh interesting, still haven’t recieved the pton one yet

[gloomy perch]

I got jumpscared 😭

[hard finch]

same lol

[tough imp]

I also got jumpscared

[queen current]

same

I saw "Princeton"

in the the top right hand corner of my mac with the gmail notification 😭

[snow nacelle]

Made me flinch too 😭

[boreal ivy]

Got the Princeton one just now lmao

[hardy nacelle]

That was a jump scare

[snow nacelle]

Even just thinking about ivy day is making my heart race them hitting me w the email is evil 😭

[torn merlin]

Anyone got that email?

Ab the decision date

[boreal ivy]

Maybe read above bro

[torn merlin]

Okay mb

[queen current]

ik I lowk dont wanna go to school that day

[nova lava]

I’m Gen so scared that it’s a Thursday

[boreal ivy]

Thank god my school is online for that week

[nova lava]

The Friday after Ivy day is gonna be diabolical

[boreal ivy]

I’m going to watch a movie with friends!

[snow nacelle]

7pm is fucking frying me man

[boreal ivy]

U gotta enjoy life no matter what happens

[nova lava]

Aww that’s fun

That’s true

[feral oyster]

can someone add me to the princeton '30 group chat?

[queen current]

i lowk might not go to school depending on how it goes

[queen current]

im seeing Hail Mary tmrw lol

[snow nacelle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-shibuya-arc-SZUKcr6R8bbwtVQ1JH

[queen current]

hopecore

[boreal ivy]

Oh I was gonna go tmrw but my friends are too busy studying

[snow nacelle]

seeing hail mary tn with my friends

gonna be awesome i bet

[boreal ivy]

I might go Saturday and watch that hoppers movie

[boreal ivy]

No spoilers, enjoy!

[snow nacelle]

my friend read the book so he's bee like

hyping it up like crazy

this is like the lat ounce of fun im gonna be able to have until the dread kicks in

[boreal ivy]

Mine tooooo

[queen current]

studying 🥀

aint no way

[queen current]

I want a review to know what im getting myself into

[boreal ivy]

We still got finals to study for bro

Well they might get cancelled cause of the threats on our lives

But a man gotta do what he gotta do

[queen current]

happy im on trimesters for once!

no more finals

all AP classes done (now I have like gym and study hall 🥀 )

[boreal ivy]

I’m on a trimester system too lmao

[queen current]

when are your finals?

we. had ours like a week ago

[hollow matrix]

Admissions email jumpscared me

[solid dawn]

they want u vro

[boreal ivy]

They’re IB exams

[queen current]

im begging on my hands and knees

[alpine oxide]

im seeing it tonight too im so excited

[queen current]

let me know if its better than severance

[alpine oxide]

i read the book like 3 years ago ive been waiting so long

[queen current]

jk. theyre very different

[snow nacelle]

Flirting vs harassment

[boreal ivy]

😭

[snow nacelle]

"The Princeton Review" in big 26

https://giphy.com/gifs/mj-no-michael-jordan-gIUgLYIn1wimHG3nti

[split summit]

https://tenor.com/view/um-stan-twitter-interesting-gif-2556128588276332485

[solid dawn]

they’re getting campus ready for you all

[sturdy knot]

this scared the shit outta me

[snow nacelle]

🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 MANIFESTING

[solid dawn]

☠️

they pay us to work at preview

and lead the admits around

[snow nacelle]

LOL thats awesome

[solid dawn]

i like doing it

cause like

[tender lava]

bro princeton JUMPSCARED me

holy shi

[ivory hill]

Jumprincetonscare

[vagrant whale]

I got it too😭

love how we all know full well whe Ivy day is but still got scared

[hybrid hazel]

For Princeton?

I just checked my email usually i get notifications but I didnt

[hybrid hazel]

Omg if i get in I can miss class

[solid dawn]

yes

i flew out to pton preview after i got in

it was a lot of fun

[hybrid hazel]

Do you have to fly out

Or the uni pays?

[sand pagoda]

Oh is Princeton Preview on 3 separate weeks

Like there r 3 separate times for it

[sand pagoda]

If ur heavily receiving aid they pay for it I think

Like full ride or near full ride

At least that's how it worked for Harvard

[plucky ore]

Just 7 more days it looks like

Good luck to all

[sand pagoda]

Yea

[snow nacelle]

7 More days man 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

[solid dawn]

usually

[solid dawn]

separate times

[sand pagoda]

I see

[solid dawn]

wyd here bruh

[sand pagoda]

Interesting

What

[solid dawn]

if you’re committed to harv

[sand pagoda]

I'm not

[solid dawn]

ohLOLok

[sand pagoda]

js mentally committed but subject to change

ig I should put like a question markj

or something

[sand pagoda]

this isj ust based off of my resuilts so far lol

[solid dawn]

wyd at harv

oh gotcha

[sand pagoda]

like what am I studying?

[solid dawn]

yeah usually rea admits just like go lol

[sand pagoda]

I've never been to Harvard so like I don't even know if I would like the campus, and most of my other results come out next week

[sand pagoda]

Oh yeah fair enough I lowkey just rouletted

basically

[solid dawn]

sure

[sand pagoda]

because I'm very indecisive and don't really even know what I'm looking for in a college

[sand pagoda]

prob Math + CS & Gov

I might change Gov for Stats though because idk how feasible that is as a pairing

[solid dawn]

yeah a lot of people at harv do like some quantitative skill + a social science

[sand pagoda]

and stats seems pretty interesting too

[solid dawn]

common

[sand pagoda]

ya

what do u do study

[solid dawn]

philosophy

[sand pagoda]

mm

[solid dawn]

minors in english and classics

[sand pagoda]

is it like very theory heavy

like math

I mean

[solid dawn]

what does that mean vro💔

[sand pagoda]

like logic

mb

I can't phrase ts right

[solid dawn]

philosophy is the theory of like everything

[sand pagoda]

yeah

uh

[solid dawn]

LMAO oh logic

[sand pagoda]

I meant is it like math heavy ish

logic

based

or ig math is philosophy heavy

all things considered

[solid dawn]

you can choose if you wanna do logic heavy courses

[sand pagoda]

lol

[solid dawn]

but yeah like logic is omnipresent in philosophical reasoning

[sand pagoda]

yeah

makes sense

[solid dawn]

philosophy is pedagogically just premise conclusion arguments

so structurally it’s formal logic

[sand pagoda]

yeah

I see

Philosophy seems pretty interesting

I was actually considering Philo last yr

[solid dawn]

but of course like there is moral and religious and epistemic and metaphysical philosophy

[sand pagoda]

hm I see

how is life at Princeton

[solid dawn]

like all sorts of things with non quantitative dimensions but i would say logical argumentation is a through line for like all philosophy

[sand pagoda]

yea

that makes sense

I mean you need some objective form of evaluation

[solid dawn]

certainly if your philosophy is illogical then it’s just random claims

☠️

[sand pagoda]

to validate claims

yes

how do u like Princeton

[solid dawn]

great!

i have fun

[solid dawn]

love it

[sand pagoda]

hmmmmm

What do you love about it

[potent thorn]

logan i always see you

anyway another email jumpscare

7 days is crazy

[idle jetty]

@solid dawn thoughts on princeton deferral chances?

[solid dawn]

am i a magic 8 ball

i’m a lowly undergrad vro

[idle jetty]

o

[split summit]

this has me giggling

[sand pagoda]

side effects of being on spring break with nothing to do

[potent thorn]

wait i’m also on spring break but in asia rn which is why im up at 4:51am waiting for a decision 🫩

[sand pagoda]

💀

[potent thorn]

i love not being able to sleep just to open a rejection

or a waitlist yesterday wtv

[hybrid hazel]

Ah

[hybrid hazel]

Fr

[solid dawn]

☠️

[left slate]

if rea had that, rd is so fucked

[snow nacelle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-pray-guy-praying-OmqRHI3lSX7jR97WjZ

[left slate]

im dying lmaoo

[idle jetty]

any1 know what % of ppl got deferred

i dont think its that high the 70% i found online seems to be from 2012 or so

i was leaning towards like 20-30% this year esp cuz a lot of smart ppl ik got flat out rejected early

[snow nacelle]

around 30 or so

Judging by the poll held here

they don't release their stats anymore so there's no telling. This server is a small sample size so it oculd be lower or higher. Many rejected though

[idle jetty]

i feel like more competitive ppl are on places like discord ,cc and reddit

so it might be slightly higher here

[snow nacelle]

True. There is inevitably sampling bias because its the A2C discord so take that as you will. You see more acceptances here than is the actual rate after all

[hybrid hazel]

Cc?

[idle jetty]

college confidential

[hybrid hazel]

What is that

[solid dawn]

it’s ok i got in rd its possible

[left slate]

i hope to be you

[solid dawn]

trust bro

you got this

[left slate]

i hope to be blessed with the dilemma of having to choose between stanford and princeton

🙏 🙏

[queen current]

same

aand yale and harvard lol

[snow nacelle]

SAME

[left slate]

lmaooo

[solid dawn]

ok one thing at a time blud

[left slate]

lmaoo

i love princeton for the vibe & community and love stanford for the whole business-tech feel fr

[snow nacelle]

Princeton rlly is such a vibe. My aunt works and lives around there so I've been to the town proper a few times and its so pleasant

[left slate]

i've been on calls w diff clubs at princeton

and

they're so chill omg

ts the kinda people i see myself yapping w till sunrise

[solid dawn]

vibe and community ☠️

i don’t disagree but also

interesting choice of words to describe pton

[left slate]

lmaoo

they're a curious bunch

[solid dawn]

i’m at the point of the semester where my classes just consume me and i haven’t been to a social event in forever

[bright comet]

how many hours a day do you have to dedicate to the non-academic

[bright comet]

n = low + response rate is even more selective of a filter than a2c. I know people who got in and immediately left the server lmao

[solid dawn]

it really depends on the day

imagine like throughout the semester you have to sit down and write a paper all day maybe 10 times but other times you can choose to do your readings or just slack off and do other stuff

[left slate]

lmaoo

[solid dawn]

i don’t really dedicate time to other stuff i just do it if time allows

[left slate]

thats valid

[hybrid hazel]

Me fr

[bright comet]

Thinking to bring my bike to campus I was pleasantly surprised in my first visit by the apparent bike culture

[solid dawn]

that’s cause athletes

need to get around

[bright comet]

well it also just seems like a pleasant place for wheels

[mint sky]

choose princeton if you get into both🙃

[solid dawn]

☠️

[left slate]

lmaooo

[plucky ore]

W Bertrand Russell

Are you a Philo major?

[solid dawn]

everyone should be

[bright comet]

Yes lfg such a beautiful life he led

[bright comet]

No but I did a lot of philo-related stuff in high school so I do plan to take courses in it

even then, though, I take it that the majority of what you can extrapolate from philosophy for the sake of personal flourishing is to be extrapolated in the time you invest in it outside the academy

[astral schooner]

who's ready to get yield protected by princeton 😄

[vagrant whale]

me!

[dull stag]

✅

[hybrid hazel]

Lol

[open escarp]

me frfr 😭

[broken sparrow]

ready to get rejected on thursday

[nova lava]

MEEE

[solid dawn]

i feel like they do for some people

not on merit but for fit for harv/yale/stanf

[sand pagoda]

Probably

[sand pagoda]

Wow I added absolutely nothing but yeah it makes sense that they wouldn't take people that they couldn't imagine on their campus or don't think would fit in well with other people and add/contribute something to the school

But also if they could imagine them somewhere else then why would they take them to that school yfm

[solid dawn]

😭😭😭

[sand pagoda]

💀

[idle jetty]

this is def a low %

the kind of app u would need to be guarnteed at these schools is very low

[lunar gull]

I feel like they would just send a likely instead

in they wanted you ngl

[lunar gull]

bro is there even an app that GUARANTEES an acceptance?

[idle jetty]

again very small %

[idle jetty]

there prob is

like malala

[lunar gull]

did malala get rejected from ivys or smth

[idle jetty]

idt she even applied

[lunar gull]

I did not know that happened

[idle jetty]

she wanted to stay in england prob

[lunar gull]

yeah that makes a lot of sense

like I feel like ivys don't do yield protection

[idle jetty]

ivies would they prob would beg to have her come

[idle jetty]

i think smaller ones do

like cornell

[lunar gull]

FR?

[idle jetty]

if they know u wouldnt go

[lunar gull]

that's crazy

[idle jetty]

who knows

[lunar gull]

yeah ig

[idle jetty]

no1 can say they do or dont

[lunar gull]

if I go to cornell I'll ask if they yield protect /j

[idle jetty]

but every college is looking out for their own best interest

if a college doesnt think ur super passionate

they prob wouldnt admit u even if u were rlly cracked

why waste the resources on sm1 who might not come

but i think a lot of cracked kids apply every t20 and do the best major so their app isnt the best fit

like cmu scs or jhu bme

[lunar gull]

ahhhhhhh perhaps

I personally just went for astro

and if they didn't have it I just didn't even try ngl

[idle jetty]

i think astro department is p small

esp at columbia

like # of ppl who graduated

[lunar gull]

yeah I heard honestly

but they have one of the best exoplanet labs

so that's why I rlly love their dept

and if all else fails I can just transfer to physics instead

[lapis girder]

I swear I remember there was a study that showed that all schools including top ones yield protect for fit

[queen current]

probably

I would have to imagine they would

[solid dawn]

it’s true

[hexed scarab]

Me applying as a philosophy major…

I’m slightly counting on that bc it’s literally my greatest passion in the world and I’d spend my whole life teaching philosophy if I could

But obviously I do have other “cards”, but I think it’s pretty unique, no?

[solid dawn]

W best major

[solid dawn]

that’s awesome

i wanna be a philosophy / law professor

[hexed scarab]

Coolest job on the planet

Which philosophy branch do you enjoy the most?

[solid dawn]

moral

i like metaphysics and epistemology too

[split summit]

well i know what is going to happen on thursday but at least i put myself out there and learned some skills on how to build a compelling application. and at the end of the day i am glad i was able to learn more about how to write about myself and market myself. so it is a win in some fashion

[sand pagoda]

I mean u dont need to be guaranteed in order to be a candidate that could've been cross admitted

Idk why u think that's the case

[sand pagoda]

I know someone who got into MIT early and got likelies to Harvard, Stanford, and Yale

That's probably pretty close

[solid dawn]

💪💪💪

yes important skill

[sand pagoda]

Yeah true

And you were able to participate in extracurriculars that you enjoyed

[solid dawn]

there are informal bars but guarantees are contingent on fit

[sand pagoda]

And had fun with

Yes

[solid dawn]

back in my time campers got mit early auto

isef grand winners always got harv rea

[sand pagoda]

Mmm

[solid dawn]

but outside the stem achievements it’s more flexible

[sand pagoda]

Yeah fair enough

There's also prob like John Locke finalist/winner person

[solid dawn]

if you’re like 16 and on the forbes30 under 30 list for a startup or something then probably

[split summit]

i simply do not get how ppl do this😭

[solid dawn]

naw those things aren’t so heavy. i barely know what john locke is

[solid dawn]

LOL

[sand pagoda]

Rlly

[solid dawn]

i have a couple friends who are forbes30 although like early mid twenties ish

[split summit]

like there’s a part of you that must be so fucking bored

[sand pagoda]

It's like an internationally acclaimed writing award

And only given to like 1 person

[split summit]

at 16 you play minecraft. not think about finance or ai study startup

ugh i know this one kid though who got into harvard rea

[sand pagoda]

https://www.johnlockeinstitute.com/essay-competition

[split summit]

he is so admirable

he’s done so much policy work

but i don’t know anything about him besides that

like that’s the part that puts me off because idk you’re a teenager have fun😭

[sand pagoda]

Yeah fair enough

[solid dawn]

lolll

i mean you have to do stuff if you wanna get into a top college

[sand pagoda]

^

[solid dawn]

yeah i was like a policy kid too

[split summit]

no shit

but i don’t think that’s all you should live and breathe

[solid dawn]

it definitely is a path

[split summit]

and i find it a bit sad

ts not even cope it’s just how i feel

[solid dawn]

a lot of the kids who are at top ives do/did have fun honestly

you do better work when you have a balanced life

[split summit]

yes

[sand pagoda]

Yea

[sand pagoda]

Agreed

[solid dawn]

like i grinded but selectively

[sand pagoda]

U js need to know how to balance ur time

Yeah

And what ti prioritize

[split summit]

i guess a little part of me is like how fun is that Though😭😭

[solid dawn]

and only for things i felt were meaningful

[solid dawn]

well hopefully you enjoy the work you grind

and find it meaningful

[sand pagoda]

I spent basically no time on school so I had a lot of freetime to spend time on other stuff I found fun

[solid dawn]

i enjoyed the stuff i did in high school

[wooden copper]

I’m fried

I’m likely-less

[sand pagoda]

I didnt necessarily have the best grades but

At least I had fun

[split summit]

I never really found an academic extracurricular i was passionate about

[solid dawn]

i wanted to go to princeton and knew i had to be accomplished but i also just did what i felt was meaningful

[sand pagoda]

Why does that make you fried

[split summit]

it just raises my cortisol

[solid dawn]

fun is abstract and subjective anyway

[sand pagoda]

Maybe you should go find one now

[sand pagoda]

True

[solid dawn]

achieving things is fun

lmao

i like achieving things

[sand pagoda]

Yeah holy dopamine hit

[split summit]

no wait

i love achieving things

but i haven’t found that academically

[solid dawn]

doesn’t have to be academic

[split summit]

i found that mostly all in art

[wooden copper]

I’m exaggerating it’s jot

[solid dawn]

i didn’t have a single academic ec or award

[sand pagoda]

Maybe u dont need to

[split summit]

but i am not going to major in barista

[solid dawn]

on my app

[split summit]

what did you have?

[solid dawn]

i mentioned earlier

[split summit]

generally

oh

[solid dawn]

was a policy kid

[split summit]

well yes i got that far

[solid dawn]

which is like a non academic avenue

[split summit]

but you said no academic ec or award

[snow nacelle]

Maybe i'm wrong here but I feel genuine passion is always going to read more earnestly on ur app

[split summit]

oh im referring to that as academics

[snow nacelle]

I think it's more obvious than people think when they lie and bend the truth to look more good on paper

[solid dawn]

yeah correct

[sand pagoda]

Not necessarily but for the most part I'd say yeah

[split summit]

what im saying is that i have not rlly felt passionate about any of my ‘academic’ ecs not literally my school but policy, leadership, etc

[sand pagoda]

Academic ec or award mainly refers to like purely academic so like olys or research in pure fields

[solid dawn]

yeah

[snow nacelle]

I mean not all the time but in the way of writing apps I think unless you're a very skilled liar it's going to risk your chances in a way just going all in on shit you like would not

Also it's for your own happiness in HS

[solid dawn]

another path to ivies is just like policy activism

and a lot of people do that

[sand pagoda]

You don't have to be the very skilled liar is the thing

You can always just hire someone else who is

[solid dawn]

i think a common misconception is that academic stuff -> ivies when ives like civic stuff the most

[snow nacelle]

Well if you have money yeah

[sand pagoda]

True

[snow nacelle]

But I didn't

so that wasn't an option

[sand pagoda]

Civic engagement is awesome

[sand pagoda]

Yeah I didnt either

[split summit]

half of the ppl i see are very passionate about their policy work and then there’s people who seem fucking miserable😭😭 like my group leader is in 47000 different groups and im like what are u even doing this for. half of your organizations are just ignored bcs u want to appear a certain way. idk

[sand pagoda]

Just saying that some people are able to and do do thst

[solid dawn]

there’s like other things

like most of my honors i listed were like news features

or getting invited as a feature on a cool panel or something

[split summit]

oh ok cool

[solid dawn]

it’s in your favor to like think creatively

[snow nacelle]

There's one guy who did get in with his only ec being ballet so anything's possible

[ivory lantern]

passionnn

!!!!

[sand pagoda]

To where

[snow nacelle]

Princeton

[split summit]

so many things i wish i could’ve done differently🤷‍♂️

[sand pagoda]

Oh thats cool

[tender lava]

im cooked

[solid dawn]

yeah pton likes it when you do one thing

or like you can do multiple as most do but the kids who are just obsessed with one thing are attractive to aos

[tender lava]

@solid dawn Im becoming a waitlist warrior

[solid dawn]

my friend in my year just did math literally lol

and worked under a math phd student who wrote a rec letter attesting to his grad level ability

he didn’t do like anything else but pton recognizes that stuff

they’re trying to make the next einstein

[sand pagoda]

That's fire

[solid dawn]

einstein was only interested in physics

[sand pagoda]

Yeah lwk u kinda js have to have an obsession

[solid dawn]

they’re not trying to admit the kid who fills out all 10 ecs well

[sand pagoda]

With whatever it is u wanna do

[snow nacelle]

Very true

filling out all 10 can look dubious esp if the time doesn't add up

[solid dawn]

lol oh no what did u get waitlisted from

[sand pagoda]

ngl I filled out all 10 lol

[solid dawn]

i’m prolly applying to law school soon

[tender lava]

jhu and washu (where I have legacy 😭)

[sand pagoda]

But trust I had a spike ✌️✌️✌️

[solid dawn]

so maybe i’ll get thrown back in the arena

[split summit]

why would you want to study your obsession

[sand pagoda]

Because you're obsessed with it what

😭 😭 😭

[solid dawn]

well me too

but you can fill out all 10 and have them obviously be shaped into 1 or 2 goals

[split summit]

i feel like that’s the saying of don’t make your favorite thing your job😭

[sand pagoda]

Is this an actual question or

[sand pagoda]

Yea

[split summit]

im serious

[sand pagoda]

It's the other way around

[split summit]

no

[sand pagoda]

If you're obsessed with something

Ofc ur gonna want to study it

And learn more abt it

Like what

[solid dawn]

because the pursuit of meaning takes dedication and work

[split summit]

am the only one who has heard this phrase

[solid dawn]

oppenheimer wasn’t a part time physicist

[sand pagoda]

I think abt math in the shower because I'm just that enthusiastic and curious abt it so ofc I want to learn more about it and how do u do that

U study it

[solid dawn]

ruth bader ginsberg wasn’t a part time lawyer

speaking of that

i’m not a part time student so maybe i should go do my readings

for the week

💔

[idle jetty]

re-read

[sand pagoda]

?

[idle jetty]

they def had smth unique that the colleges all wanted

[sand pagoda]

I did

My point still applies no?

[idle jetty]

they prob were that 1%

[sand pagoda]

You dont have to be guaranteed to a school to be cross admitted

[idle jetty]

obv not

[solid dawn]

yah

[sand pagoda]

Then why r u talking abt guaranteed applicants

[solid dawn]

i got pton and upenn in my day

not the exact same but like

[idle jetty]

guarnteed means

nth is guarnteed lol

[solid dawn]

generally if you’re really good you’ll get recognized by multiple top schools

[idle jetty]

it just means u have high odds

but to think u deserve a spot is laughable

anything can happen

[sand pagoda]

I'm so confused at what ur talking abt son

[idle jetty]

nvm

[sand pagoda]

Bro 😭 😭 😭 😭

[idle jetty]

that theres a small % of ppl

that will prob get into multiple hypsm

[sand pagoda]

Mhm

[idle jetty]

but they had smth on their app

that the college wnated

it wasnt just pure luck

there are things AO's look for

whether its diversity or certain qualities

[sand pagoda]

Wow really

You're telling me when an AO admits a student

That it's not pure luck

[idle jetty]

because many ppl say it is

[sand pagoda]

You know this just applies to any applicant whatsoever

[idle jetty]

which could be true

[idle jetty]

not necessarily

[solid dawn]

it’s a combination of achievement + coherent purpose and narrative

[sand pagoda]

They're thinking about their class overall

And I guess you could have luck

[solid dawn]

i mean i didn’t quite sweep but i got into pton and mit waitlist in terms of hypsm

[sand pagoda]

In that they might need something

But you still need to be a high quality applicant overall

[solid dawn]

so like they are recognizing similar merit across the t5

[sand pagoda]

Same but admitted Harv WL MIT

[idle jetty]

just look at ur own grade

its prob best representative

[split summit]

did you apply to mit for philosophy

[idle jetty]

of how good ur app is

[solid dawn]

yea that happens

[sand pagoda]

dw I know how good/bad my app is lol

[idle jetty]

i meant in general

[solid dawn]

if h/m think you’ve gotten the other they’ll waitlist you

[idle jetty]

not talking to u specifically

[sand pagoda]

Yeah I'm js gonna cope and blame it on my bad esssays for MIT

[solid dawn]

LOL

my essays for mit were crazy

i wrote in second person like directly at the ao for one

🫵

listen up ao

[sand pagoda]

Nah cause I had really good MIT feeder + mit research + decent LOR from Primes head and then rushed essays cause of QuestBridge ✌️✌️

I really regret using ts fuckass QuestBridge bro fuck me

[solid dawn]

☠️☠️☠️

[sand pagoda]

Damn

Mine were dogshit

[solid dawn]

you got harv pack it up vro

[sand pagoda]

Cause for qb you had to submit back in liks September

And then they forced me to use that

For mit

So I used my personal statement and supps from September

That I rushed

😭

It was so bad and jover

[idle jetty]

did u get in anywhere

[sand pagoda]

Yeah ur right

[idle jetty]

ik sm1 who did QB and got every ivy

[sand pagoda]

I got into Harvard

[idle jetty]

congrats

[sand pagoda]

I didnt use qb for that tho

I used CA for everything but MIT

[idle jetty]

yea same

[sand pagoda]

But only cause MIT forced me to use qb

[sand pagoda]

Oh nice

[idle jetty]

idk how good my app will be in terms of fit

i alr got into a hypsm but

i got wl a few t20's

so very weird

[solid dawn]

mit loves mit interest but also that’s more in early

[sand pagoda]

Yeah true

[solid dawn]

my one rsi friend just did mit everything and then got in early LOL

they were like ok. approved

[sand pagoda]

I mean they also had rsi

[idle jetty]

i hope the waitlists were just fit

@sand pagoda r u just waiting on packages or was harvard ur top choice

[solid dawn]

yeah but they defer like some of the rsi kids

[hollow matrix]

cap
You’re saying this to imagine a “gotcha” moment but you got a rejection , or you’re fantasizing about getting in, even though it comes out later this week.

[sand pagoda]

LMFAO

Bro took the time to quote claude

😭

(Inside joke I know I look insane rn)

[idle jetty]

my school is p competitive

[solid dawn]

😭😭😭

[idle jetty]

so its gonna be interesting

[sand pagoda]

Yeah fair

[idle jetty]

this thursday

[hollow matrix]

dude that must’ve been the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen

[sand pagoda]

I mean u said u alr got into a HYPSM early right

So

Does it rlly matter

[hollow matrix]

can I send the OG photo for context@sand pagoda

[idle jetty]

yea it does

i rather have more optiosn to choose from its not just abt prestige

[solid dawn]

@snow nacelle waitlists r fine btw

i got a ton

[sand pagoda]

Nah it's good I'd rather look insane

[solid dawn]

mit dartmouth uchicago jhu

[tender lava]

im getting cooked everywhere next wk

[idle jetty]

location, cost, major, school activities also matter

[solid dawn]

it just means the don’t really think you’re gonna go

which is true

[sand pagoda]

Yeah true

[hollow matrix]

you got a pretty ton
a p-ton, if you will

[sand pagoda]

I 100% agree with u

[idle jetty]

i hope i sweep but who knows

[solid dawn]

cause after pton i removed myself from all the waitlists

[idle jetty]

my school is rlly competitive

[sand pagoda]

But a HYPSM is not that bad of a fallback option

[idle jetty]

our counselors try to make u not apply after u get in rea/ea/ed

[sand pagoda]

All things considered

[idle jetty]

to a top school

[snow nacelle]

i'd take a waitlist quite honestly

[idle jetty]

like ur not allowed to

[hollow matrix]

This will be me (my only waitlist is ucla rn)

[idle jetty]

since we have insanely cracked ppl

[sand pagoda]

Could never imagine

My school is not that comp

It's like

[idle jetty]

like any1 in our t100 realistically can make a t10

[sand pagoda]

Decently

[snow nacelle]

Deferal to waitlist would be a deadly combo but i'd be more than willing to accept it

[sand pagoda]

Cause I'm in like a decently comp region but

[tender lava]

do school quotas exist

[solid dawn]

dude the MIT waitlist was so kind i almost cried it was like

“hey! we’d LOVE to see you here. every student we waitlist we could imagine at MIT”😭😭😭😭😭😭

[sand pagoda]

No

[solid dawn]

i was emotional

[idle jetty]

they do but not how u imagine

[hollow matrix]

bro how did i even get waitlisted from ucla

[sand pagoda]

Not for a lot of schools

[snow nacelle]

LOL

[idle jetty]

they wont admit 15 ppl from ur school

[snow nacelle]

Thyere too kind

[idle jetty]

because there just wont be 15 cracked ppl

fit matters too

[sand pagoda]

If they really want like multiple people

[idle jetty]

they compare applicants from the same hs

yea

[sand pagoda]

And can see that they can all contribute something meaningfully

And different

[idle jetty]

some years our school sends 10+ to some ivies

[sand pagoda]

To their school

[idle jetty]

other years we dont send as many

[sand pagoda]

They'll take them all

[solid dawn]

a girl near me in my state got off so i feel i might’ve gotten off mit waitlist if i stayed on

[sand pagoda]

There is no hard quota

[idle jetty]

they def compare applicants

[hollow matrix]

my school has class size 400, 1 ivy last yr cuz recruit 😭

[sand pagoda]

There might be a soft one though

[idle jetty]

with the regional AO

[solid dawn]

but also i don’t need to be studying philosophy at mit

[idle jetty]

400 is quite a lot tho

what state

[tender lava]

can they do more than 1 from a small class size like 220 ppl?

[hollow matrix]

colorado

[sand pagoda]

Mine is 1k

[idle jetty]

anything can happen lol

[sand pagoda]

💀

[idle jetty]

yea mine is 1k+

[hollow matrix]

we had 2 national merit semis 😭

[solid dawn]

school and stuff doesn’t matter as much as people think it does i feel

[idle jetty]

any1 in the top 100 gpa can make a t10 in our school

at our school if u make ur rea/ed u cant apply RD

but i didnt tell my counselors or update anything

[hollow matrix]

our salutatorian got deferred purdue 😭

[sand pagoda]

Lol

[idle jetty]

yield prob

[tender lava]

tufts syndrome

[hollow matrix]

im val and got accepted

[sand pagoda]

U sure this isnt gonna have negative repercussions on u tho

[idle jetty]

also a lot of ppl with high stats

[idle jetty]

maybe bad essay

[idle jetty]

wdym

ur hs isnt allowed to not let u apply

[snow nacelle]

We have 2 penn admits and no princeton admits so far so hoping im one of the few that applied at my school

[solid dawn]

i mean i was the only person in my city to get pton and like you could say that was an anomaly if you feel school and stuff is really important

[idle jetty]

but if u try they amke u sit with ur parents

[hollow matrix]

i think so too, im hoping its yield cuz i wanna see someone from my school crack an insane school

[sand pagoda]

Oh yeah true

[idle jetty]

im not letting my hs nerf me tho u only apply once

[solid dawn]

upenn and pton lots of cross admits

[sand pagoda]

Unless ur transferring or grad school or gap

[idle jetty]

but theyre right in the sense that u applying does hurt the ppl u apply with

colleges actively compare u to the ppl u went to hs with

in terms of resources, classes taken, gpa and ec's

[solid dawn]

in my year after ivy day like 3 of my friends and i were all pton + upenn lol

[idle jetty]

those r the ppl u had the same opportunities as basically

[sand pagoda]

Yeah true

[idle jetty]

many AO's said this as well

[sand pagoda]

Yeah

[idle jetty]

but u still see many ppl from the same hs get into the same ivy

[hollow matrix]

manifesting this @sand pagoda

[idle jetty]

because they were all cracked

[snow nacelle]

What does cross admits mean? Both?

[hollow matrix]

hope u get harvard 🙏

[solid dawn]

yeah

[sand pagoda]

Idk abt straight 1-1 comparison for ecs but maybe like impact-wise

[idle jetty]

yes

[solid dawn]

i opened upenn then pton 5 seconds later lol

[hollow matrix]

i lowk had trouble finding ppl at my school with similar impacts lowk

[sand pagoda]

I can see that

[solid dawn]

so i didn’t gaf lowkey

[sand pagoda]

People gatekeep

No one js puts their ecs out there tbh

[idle jetty]

ya

[sand pagoda]

Everyone js gatekeeps what they have

[idle jetty]

imma gatekeep too

[sand pagoda]

And you'll prob never know what they had

To the full extent

[idle jetty]

im gatekeeping my acceptances until may/june

[sand pagoda]

That an AO sees

[tender lava]

what do u do when ppl ask

[idle jetty]

nth

[sand pagoda]

I didnt gatekeep Harvard but I'll prob gatekeep everything else my school isnt that comp tho

[idle jetty]

i just look at them

[snow nacelle]

lol I'm praying I get lucky w/ that then

[sand pagoda]

So idt they rlly care but

[idle jetty]

u can do wtvr u want in life as logn as it doesnt negatively impact other ppl

[hollow matrix]

maybe, but our schools EA performance was not that great, plus it isnt that comp

[sand pagoda]

Yeah

[idle jetty]

my school is hella comp

[snow nacelle]

I'm still most unsure about my ECs but It's out of my control now so nothing I can really do

[idle jetty]

some kid made every ivy from QB and every1 was pissed at him

but also cuz he made up ec's as well and faked his income

[sand pagoda]

People could be gatekeeping their EA performance too

[hollow matrix]

log (n)

[idle jetty]

it was a p big scandal 3 years ago

[sand pagoda]

lmao

Did they get reported orr

[idle jetty]

he got all 8 ivies his family income was 110k

[idle jetty]

yup

[idle jetty]

thye got access to his family tax report

somehow

[hollow matrix]

maybe, probs not tho

[sand pagoda]

Wtf

[idle jetty]

he only reported 1 parents income

yea

[hollow matrix]

i dont gatekeep

[sand pagoda]

Crazy shit 😭 😭 😭

[hollow matrix]

im not a chud

[idle jetty]

but he didnt get rescinded

[sand pagoda]

Gatekeeping doesnt mean ur a chud

[snow nacelle]

my app is just very contingent on if they gaf since i dont have like national impact or anything crazy. im happy with what i did tho so their loss if nothing turns out as i'd like it too

[sand pagoda]

Theres real possibilities of like getting sabotaged

[idle jetty]

not rlly

[sand pagoda]

Or js people talking shit abt u

[solid dawn]

its not so black and white don’t worry

[sand pagoda]

Or maybe u js dont want to be talked abt

[idle jetty]

ppl fail to realize hurting the school rep will only hurt them

[sand pagoda]

Like I regret not gatekeeping

[hollow matrix]

not rly at my school, its genuinely not that comp

[solid dawn]

it’s just as compelling to do something local or advance a smaller cause but do it well

[idle jetty]

even if uk sm1 larping nth u should do until after results come out

[sand pagoda]

Because I like keeping my shit private for the most part

[hollow matrix]

if i get into a comp uni im lowk gonna have to get used to 'playing the game'

[sand pagoda]

Yeah true

[idle jetty]

what state r u from

[sand pagoda]

Tx

[idle jetty]

o

[solid dawn]

definitely not necessary

i just do my own thing

[idle jetty]

r u val @sand pagoda

[sand pagoda]

No

[hollow matrix]

even at a comp uni?

[idle jetty]

sal?

[sand pagoda]

Not close lol

Not even close

[solid dawn]

lollll

[idle jetty]

what u think got u in

harvard

[snow nacelle]

considering you said pton and penn cross admit that makes me real happy since they're also like my top 2 schools overall and id be like starstruck to go to either

[idle jetty]

any particular thing

[sand pagoda]

Narrative prob

[idle jetty]

i mean ec/award

[hollow matrix]

imo gold

[solid dawn]

yeah but you don’t have to do what everyone else does

[hollow matrix]

or was it silver

[hollow matrix]

insanely valid take

[solid dawn]

you can use like your school’s brand and resources to do something of your own

[sand pagoda]

It was gold

[idle jetty]

u had imo gold?

holy

isnt that rlly good

[sand pagoda]

No

It's trash

[idle jetty]

😭

wait r u domestic or intl

[sand pagoda]

Intl

[solid dawn]

lolll there’s an ipho gold guy in my princeton year

[idle jetty]

oh damn

do u think that will nerf u

[solid dawn]

he’s funny

[idle jetty]

being intl

i saw tons of kids getting wiped intl imo even

[hollow matrix]

aint nobody nerfing w

[sand pagoda]

I'm on a visa so maybe not that bad

[idle jetty]

i mean ur still

[solid dawn]

pton trust 💪💪💪

[idle jetty]

considered international i mean

but gl

[hollow matrix]

im lowk manifesting pton ts thursday

[solid dawn]

🙏you got this