Yale University (2025-2026)

[shrewd spade]

And beating them AGAIN

[void lichen]

I hope we go on an 8 year win streak

Harvard co 26 never saw their team win😭😭😭

[shrewd spade]

That’s actually sad haha

[native smelt]

truly

[plucky void]

really wanted to apply to yale but i dont have time for the supps 😞 womp womp

[native smelt]

you have 8 hours

get to writing

[plucky void]

im not beating my ass over that

ive already applied to so many schools and most of today im spending on northwestern

i could do one school a day but 2 a different story

[proud garnet]

they might keep the portal open for a few extra days like last year

[plucky void]

like full on starting supps on the day

[plucky void]

thats what im hoping for

how did that work out though

did they like say they had an extension or what

[proud garnet]

someone emailed them and they replied saying they'll accept any apps until 1/5 without penalty

for last year

[plucky void]

https://tenor.com/view/pinkpantheress-stan-twitter-biting-lips-bite-pink-gif-4469271623669484881

hmmmmmm

[shadow axle]

should i mention any specific clubs or programs at yale?

[elder barn]

oh shoot i didnt know this, woops mb

[frosty goblet]

are we excited to submit today guys?!!!

[proud garnet]

nah

i think im gonna have to set my timezone to hawaii

[gray scroll]

Why us is killing me

are we not supposed to mention anything about yale since it's in past tense?

[frosty goblet]

dont mention anything about yale imo

[proud garnet]

for the 125 word one? you should

[frosty goblet]

they're kind of interesting where they hate when ppl spoon-feed them niche programs and shit at their school

[frosty goblet]

I've seen ppl do it and it works but on their podcast they advise against it

[gray scroll]

i just saw a reddit comment on that

[proud garnet]

their podcast advised against the majority of the essay being a laundrey list of yale specifics

[gray scroll]

i'm torn

[proud garnet]

its still a why yale tho you should mention like one thing that connects to yale

[elder barn]

answering why yale without mentioning anything about yale? 😭

[frosty goblet]

its totatlyl up to you, I think you can either let them infer that you'd be a good fit or you can show why you'd be a good fit (either works)

[proud garnet]

this is lowk misleading ngl 😭

but ok

[frosty goblet]

well it says what has drawn you to Yale

meaning a past experience

[proud garnet]

to Yale

its still a why yale essay they just want more emphasis on a past exp

the podcast mentioned connecting it to yale in the last part of the essay

[frosty goblet]

whcih one

Ill have another listen

I could be wrong lol

[proud garnet]

the application update 2025-26 i think

[frosty goblet]

okay listening now lol

[native smelt]

i mean it ultimately depends on your yale specific essay

i don’t think you should go overboard

[shadow axle]

ok ill js mention one

its moreso about yale culture

[dapper flicker]

i did like 60% past experience, 40% Yale

[proud garnet]

if we pick prompt 3 for the 400 word one (enrich college exp) should we mention yale specifics at the end

[dapper flicker]

And i did like a funnel - My experience -> draws me broad culture of yale (interdisciplinary, etc. etc.) -> One Specific Yale program

[native smelt]

i didn’t

up to you

[frosty goblet]

they seemed to lean no in podcast (I just listened to this one lol)

[dapper flicker]

What about the Community Essay? Do I have to say "At Yale, Ill continue this by XXX"

[lucid sonnet]

im so confused are we not supposed to say why yale in why yale 😭

[frosty goblet]

Mark said something like "if you give us 2 and 2, we'll make 4 and understand that you'd be good at Yale"

[native smelt]

the question doesn’t ask you why yale

that’s the biggest misconception lol

everyone treats it as a why yale when that’s not what the question was asking you lol

[lucid sonnet]

The 125 word one?

[dapper flicker]

no you should, just lean a bit more heavy on how your past leads you to the culture of yale and then 1 yale thing. but i wouldnt do it like a here's one lab, one class, one funky tradition, type of essay

[frosty goblet]

its a why you

[native smelt]

it tells you to reflect on past experiences that have drawn you to yale

or wtv the question is

[lucid sonnet]

I talked about an anecdote w a problem and how yale can help me solve it

well not solve it but better it

[native smelt]

when i did mine the question was different

[dapper flicker]

like for me I did a personal anecdote on a specific humanities program (but Im a STEM major) -> tied it to Yale's use of humanities/interdisciplinary -> the specific thing from yale that'll allow me to explore boht STEM/humanities

[native smelt]

but i like took aspects of hale and then connected them to me

[proud garnet]

hm ok im wondering cuz i never named any proffesor or named any specific yale program/club elsewhere, so would it be wise to pick prompt 3 (i think u read mine, for the orchestra essay) and then connect it to yale at the end? or does it not matter?

[native smelt]

doesn’t matter

[frosty goblet]

this is what I did

[native smelt]

i would pick prompt 3 tho

[proud garnet]

do you think the essay worked as prompt 3 as is

or should i change anything

might add something abt yale's music outreach programs breifly idk

[dapper flicker]

Did anyone do the 400-word communities essay?

[native smelt]

wait i don’t remember

ngl just use ur discretion. in mine i referenced how i would use that reflection at yale but i didn’t mention anything specific about yale

[native smelt]

lol did u mention ds

[lucid sonnet]

can a current student read my why yale im kinda scared now 😭

[native smelt]

sure

[gray scroll]

real

[native smelt]

i’m on my phone so i’ll skim it tho

[lucid sonnet]

thank you!

[native smelt]

omg i told u i would read ur supps and i fully didnt

[gray scroll]

I've changed parts of it now

[native smelt]

i’m about to eat but once i get my laptop i can read them and give comments

[gray scroll]

I need ot update that link

[lucid sonnet]

that’s okay it’ll give me some peace of mind

[dapper flicker]

no it was a very specific thing within a specific institute

[native smelt]

what was it? or do u want to gatekeep lol

[dapper flicker]

Solomon Health Law and Policy's Universities Allied for Essential Medicine Group

[native smelt]

oh. interesting i’ve never heard of that

[pseudo moat]

recycle but write the essay better every time

[dapper flicker]

legit top advice ever

the more schools i write, i keep going back to the ones i haven't submitted to edit in those few owrds that keep changing

[pseudo moat]

i lowkey did that and by the time i got to my jhu supp it was straight shakespearean

[frosty goblet]

okay just listened and I agree with you

thanks for expanding my insight twin

also does anyone have tips for the what inspires you essay

I think im overthinking it but its the very last one I have to do b4 I can submit

and im so stumped 😭

[raw tendon]

yoo i can share what i did

in dms if u want

maybe it'll help

[frosty goblet]

yes please!

[modest kiln]

pls me too

[carmine dune]

Arent you inspired by like architecture

[native smelt]

i just put a music artist i listne to

[red root]

i said the odds of my existence

[elder barn]

i said kittens

[native smelt]

wait that was a different short take oops

[meager bloom]

uni r u slammed w/ reviewing supps

[native smelt]

lol im on break so its chill

if u need me to read ur essays i can

[meager bloom]

that would be good can i send them in a bit when i get home

[prime canyon]

lol did u use cornell

[gray scroll]

This may be silly but for the who inspires you

my mom isn't letting me put down a person who really inspires me

and forcing me to do rihanna

isn't that too cliche?

[plucky void]

https://tenor.com/view/ohio-ishowspeed-tweaking-gif-15588474007810322935

firstly why is your mom telling you what to write

secondly why is she telling you to write about somebody you dont even know

i think she MIGHT trying to get u rejected girl 😭

[gray scroll]

Ik rihanna but she doesn't inspire me ToT

[plucky void]

write about what you actually want to write and then show her the rhianna thing and turn in the proper version

'isnt letting me' that is concerning 😭

[gray scroll]

lowkey

I was planning to write about IU

but my mom thinks they won't know who she is

but based on my writing they'll understand who she is TOT

[plucky void]

i mean IU is good too

but is there no one in your personal life who youre inspired by

[native smelt]

its ur application?

lol just submit it

lol

[gray scroll]

my parents but everyone does that

lol

[native smelt]

they dont need to know who it is

[plucky void]

who inspires you more IU or your parents

[gray scroll]

parents

[plucky void]

write about your parnts

https://tenor.com/view/iu-iutv-cannes-france-vlog-gif-26026228

[native smelt]

it says other than a family member

dont write about your parents

[plucky void]

oh deadass

sorry i didnt do my yale app

ok write about iu

[gray scroll]

nah its fine

[plucky void]

😭

[analog pebble]

is the yale econ + math major competitive? like wb compared to pure econ or applied math

[native smelt]

yale doesnt admit by major

no major is competitive

[shadow axle]

wait can u take a peek at my why yale?

[native smelt]

sure

[shadow axle]

dms?

[native smelt]

where else

[shadow axle]

u right

[dapper flicker]

Why does this not show my teacher recommendations?

yet my counselor one is showing above?

[blissful sigil]

would anyone be aviliable to look at my Yale Supps?

[brisk quiver]

can someone look at my yale sups?

[carmine fossil]

for the "Reflect on an element of your personal experience that you feel will enrich your college. How has it shaped you?" by "your college" do they mean your residential college, or just yale in general?

[left ice]

it doesn’t matter tbh

its the same if you think abt it

but yea the residential college

[blissful sigil]

I dmed you btw

[left ice]

alr checking

[native smelt]

yale in general

[native smelt]

well

the residential colleges are a subset of yale

[left ice]

i mean the podcast said

ok yes

it’s both

[left ice]

anyways they don’t want you to connect it

maybe the very end

so it doesn’t matter

[brisk quiver]

can someone look at my yale essays

[blissful sigil]

yeah sure

[brisk quiver]

sent u a message!

[native smelt]

you dont need to connect it back

[subtle trellis]

if i was born in another country and moved to the US and lived here the rest of my life, should i still fill this out

i moved here prior to starting first grade

[blissful sigil]

Hm I'm not sure if I should try and be funny in my supplementals or dead serious

[blissful sigil]

no

[subtle trellis]

ok thanks

[drowsy comet]

Does yale care alot about olympiads?

[plucky void]

what school doesnt care about olympiads

[neat lily]

would anyone be willing to read my supps? i only have 2 (125, 200 words)

pls 🙏

also, would anyone happen to know if its recommended to submit an extra teacher rec apart from the 2 that're required?

[meager bloom]

kinda frowned on

tbf

the 2 r usually more than enough

[neat lily]

man

[meager bloom]

unless it is like

100% filled w/ brand new content

[native smelt]

its not recommended but u can do it

[meager bloom]

oh uni let me send my essays

before i forget

[native smelt]

they make it hard to do on purpose

[meager bloom]

u also have to upload it through a diff portal and shit

[neat lily]

okay so because i applied with a questbridge app, i got recs from two teachers that are math and sci (it's preferred by QB and looks stronger

but honestly i didnt think that either teacher could speak on my character as well as a coach of mine

so i asked the coach to submit a rec letter for me meaning i have 3 in the system now

is that cooked

[neat lily]

fr

[neat lily]

🙏

goodluck !

if my scores are low, it's prob better that i dont include them right?

[native smelt]

what is low

[neat lily]

very low for ivy, high for my school standards
1250

[shadow axle]

yeah go TO

[native smelt]

yale is test flexible

so you need to submit a test score

[shadow axle]

ah

[native smelt]

do you have ap scores instead? if its high for your school i dont know if i would be too worried

[neat lily]

so im required to submit a score?

i have a previous 1200 in my QB application so i really hope they dont see it

[gray scroll]

Me to twin

[neat lily]

no unfortunately, most of my curriculum is dual enrollment and theres really only space for maybe 2-3 APs the max during senior year (im supposed to take AP chem second semester)

[neat lily]

🙏 🙏 🙏

[gray scroll]

It really drives me insane how I never did well on the sat

But I do fine on normal exams and ap

Like where did my common sense go?

[neat lily]

me too

before i changed to a health science major i was set on mech engineering and my application wouldve been cooked

low sat math score, no calc offered at my school except precal, 0 sat help

smh

[versed sapphire]

good luck everyone

[hard wind]

woo y'all got this!

[native smelt]

i mean theyll consider your circumstances

[neat lily]

i see

hope everything comes out well

[frosty goblet]

wiat guys

for the short take about a class

u wanna create

I did my title in all caps

is that fine??

bc most course books do them in all caps so I wanted to make it like that

[versed sapphire]

its fine

[frosty goblet]

I can change it

I didn't submit yet

[versed sapphire]

i mean i don't think it matters that much

[frosty goblet]

IM just wondering like if its a bad thing (definitely overhtinking this lol)

[versed sapphire]

either way works

[frosty goblet]

yeah lol

thanks

[versed sapphire]

does anyone know whether you should waive your right to view interview summaries

[hard wind]

I did

ik ppl who didn’t and got in

idt it matters too much?

[versed sapphire]

oh

what benefit do you get from waiving it though?

[hard wind]

if y wanna be safe waive it

[hard wind]

idk i heard it’s a rule of thumb to always waive ferpa

[versed sapphire]

yeah i heard that too

i guess i'll just waive it yeah

[frosty goblet]

AHH

[proud garnet]

erm yale better have a grace period

[frosty goblet]

waive

[versed sapphire]

gl man

[hard wind]

you got this

[frosty goblet]

always waive it bc if you wave it then they dont need to show u a summary

[versed sapphire]

ill submit mine in a sec

[frosty goblet]

they dont want to have to withold thoughts bc you have a right to see it

so always waive

[frosty goblet]

thanks!! you too

[hard wind]

if it helps one of my recommenders for rea didn’t submit rec until nov 7

[frosty goblet]

I really liked my essays for yale so fingers crossed!

[hard wind]

eh it’ll be post decision so idt it matters that much

[versed sapphire]

i got a sister attending yale rn so i really hope it helps me somehow lol

i still don't know for sure if sibling legacy is a thing here

[frosty goblet]

good point, I've just always been told its a good idea to waive

[proud garnet]

im so conflicted with prompt 3 (element/enriches your college) do i tie back to yale or not 😭

[native smelt]

nah

[frosty goblet]

I think it is

[native smelt]

don’t force it

[frosty goblet]

yeah no I didn't tie back at all

[hard wind]

i only included one very brief reference at the end of mine

[frosty goblet]

they can figure it out

[hard wind]

maybe some reflection could be good? looking forward, though not necessarily to yale specifically

idk what ur writing abt tho, it may not be necessary

[proud garnet]

wait can i dm u a quick q

about this

[hard wind]

sure

[meager bloom]

the prompt doesnt mention it

doesnt mean ppl dont do it

[hard wind]

that is true
i only did bc i felt that my why yale was not as specific as it could have been! but it’s up to you fs

[frosty goblet]

I loved ur why yale (at least from what u told me the topic was)

handome king Dan

[snow yoke]

I just submitted my Yale app!

[versed sapphire]

congrats! good luck!

[snow yoke]

Thank you

[versed sapphire]

just submitted mine

[spare atlas]

Full sent

[snow yoke]

Aye

[spare atlas]

Cinema

[hard wind]

Tysm!

[native smelt]

congrats everyone!!!

[brisk quiver]

helpp for the y yale essay

i dont get what they want

according to the podcast ykyk

[frosty goblet]

Thanks!!! You have been an absolute amazing person in helping both me and the rest of the applicants!

[native smelt]

uh?

a little late for that no

[brisk quiver]

i have 40 min...😭

[sudden ruin]

i submitted with 10 sec to spare

ahhh

[drowsy saddle]

we're all getting in

[gray scroll]

Thank you so much for your help!!

I have a throbbing headache so now I'll be sleeping 💔

[native smelt]

connect your past experiences to experiences you can have at yale

[native smelt]

of course :))

@void lichen you've inspired me im considering applying to be a rc lol

i dont know if i should tho it might be stressful

[feral cave]

what is RC?

[native smelt]

recruitment coordinator

working for the admisions office

[feral cave]

what do they do?

[feral cave]

i see

[native smelt]

students connect with admitted students and help with recruitment

essentially i try and get new students to come to yale

[feral cave]

oh oh

seems like a

fun job man

[native smelt]

yeah it seems nice i just dont know if i want to have the stress

of 2 jobs

• all my ECs

• hard classes

[feral cave]

[native smelt]

like obviously im not gonna do it just to do it but i dont want to apply and do it and then quit like 2 weeks in

[feral cave]

you only have so many hours man

[native smelt]

lol

its a position i definitely think i would love

but i just dont know

[feral cave]

don't burnout yourself man

[native smelt]

ur right

[feral cave]

yeah
like maybe do it when you are free

with time

[native smelt]

ill never be free

i mean the good thing is i could always apply next year

but next year i could arguably be more busy

[feral cave]

well true but next year could again be next year and yk you could miss it

[native smelt]

true

let me go and reflect on all the things im doing

and how many hours a week they take

[feral cave]

yeah
heard from other seniors that sophomore is the busiest and most stressful year

but idk how true it is

[native smelt]

hm

this could be true

bc i start taking more heavy major classes

[feral cave]

yeah you should

[native smelt]

im lowk considering studying abroad next fall

[feral cave]

and also have to declare major and shit

[native smelt]

i feel like that could be really good for me

[native smelt]

i lowk alr know what im gna major in

which is nice

[feral cave]

where are you considering?

europe?

[native smelt]

probably france

it was just a thought i had last night

[brisk quiver]

wait can i dm you😭

[native smelt]

but i think it would be valuable for me

[native smelt]

sure

[native smelt]

yeah

[feral cave]

woah
what are you gonna major in?

[native smelt]

im between like 3 majors but they all have similar requirements

[feral cave]

lol
but yeah france could be fun
but i think italy would be cool too

[native smelt]

applied math, stats & data science, or pure math/cs+math

im just gonna take classes that interest me and then declare once i have to

[feral cave]

isn't stats and data science double major?

[native smelt]

no its one major

[feral cave]

is CS+econ also one major?

cause it was an option when i was submitting the app

[versed sapphire]

think so

cs+econ is pretty popular at yale

i've heard

[feral cave]

i see

i wanna do CS+econ with a physics minor man

[native smelt]

yeah

[feral cave]

[native smelt]

we dont have minors

unfortunately

[feral cave]

ah shit
what about double major?

[native smelt]

its possible

[feral cave]

CS+econ & physics

[native smelt]

hard but possible

if its what you love go for it

[feral cave]

will it be to hard?

[native smelt]

are you trying to go for quant lol

[native smelt]

physics is a difficult major

cs is harder than teh econ portion

also difficult

[feral cave]

yeah i love them and my application is also based around those

[feral cave]

well guess if i take it
i won't get to touch grass

[native smelt]

i think also the nature of yale and similar liberal arts schools

is that your interests will change

[versed sapphire]

cs+econ+physics has to be the most quant thing ever lol

[native smelt]

and youll go more broad, specialize, but dont necessarily tie yourself down to any one subject

[native smelt]

yeah LMFAO

the jane street recruiters at yale will snatch u up

[feral cave]

i don't particulary wan't to go to quant
it's just combination of what i am interested in

[versed sapphire]

yeah i can understand that

[feral cave]

it's just a coincidence

[versed sapphire]

they just happens to be the most popular majors for wannabe quants lol

[feral cave]

noo
i wanna do phd

[native smelt]

no im just playing w u lol

[feral cave]

i see
i just wanna do research and go up to phd and then figure out shit

[native smelt]

bruh yale students cant study abroad sophomore fall

this is so chopped

[feral cave]

only from junior year?

[native smelt]

sophomore spring, junior year, or senior fall

or any of the summers

[feral cave]

also does yale have study aborad in oxbridge?

[feral cave]

i see
i think summer would be more fun cause you can just study language there and spend most of you time as a vacation

[native smelt]

i feel like my summers are important tho

as someone in a quantitative major

whats the dartmouth essay

[feral cave]

wdym?

like the why dartmouth?

[native smelt]

well no dartmouth and yale are pretty different

[feral cave]

but yk relaxing one summer won't hurt

[native smelt]

that is true

its more why you than why school

[feral cave]

why yale is not much about Yale but about you

and how Yale's vibe matches with you

i wrote it like that

[native smelt]

i just feel like theres so much pressure here to make sure youre doing something over the summer

the only summer its acceptable to not do anything is freshman summer

and im doing something frehsman summer

lol

id say do 60/40

[feral cave]

i think that is why
it is necessary to take a break once in a while so you don't burnout

[native smelt]

mine was like 50/50 but they changed the prompt

[native smelt]

thats why i was thinking of studying abroad sophomore fall

because studying abroad is basically a break

[feral cave]

mine was i think 80/20 or 70/30

[native smelt]

lol

[feral cave]

yeah that's fair too

[versed sapphire]

whenever my sister comes back from break at yale she's always just wasting time

like playing minecraft on her ipad

meanwhile i have write like 5000 college essays

[native smelt]

real as fuck

this school is hard as fuck

[feral cave]

lmao

[native smelt]

thats all i do when i go home

i just played roblox with my friends for 3 hrs

[feral cave]

well that's what uni is

[native smelt]

like ur sister did when she applied... 💀

[versed sapphire]

yeah ik lol

im just saying like the contrast between her and me rn is crazy

[native smelt]

yeah but everyone who doesnt go to yale likes to pretend that yale is easy because we have grade inflation

[versed sapphire]

i thought she'd have more to do since she's in such a rigorous college

[native smelt]

the grade inflation just exists to make the grade floor higher and prevent people from failing

doesnt make teh classes easier

[native smelt]

i mean its winter break so the semester is over

[feral cave]

wait does they have big inflation like harvard or how big is the inflation?

[native smelt]

there are no classes to assign work because classes havent started yet

[versed sapphire]

i thought she'd be like studying for mcat or something

since she's premed

[native smelt]

what year is she

[feral cave]

man if i hadn't taken a gap year
i too would have been enjoying my break

but here i am

[versed sapphire]

junior

[native smelt]

eh she has time

[native smelt]

i mean like its hard to fail

my intro to prob theory class is graded where the median is an a-

[feral cave]

when do they start from?

[native smelt]

so ~50% a range grades

[native smelt]

we start spring classes jan 12th

[feral cave]

oh then it's pretty chill ig till jan 12

[native smelt]

yeah and last day of finals was dec 18th

its annoying tho my last final was dec 17th but some peoples last final was a week earlier

so their break was a week longer

[feral cave]

lmao man
isn't like that basically to easy

[native smelt]

well the class is still hard as shit lol

the median for the final was a 72

[feral cave]

i think that's pretty decent

[native smelt]

people getting good final grades in the class doesnt make the content easier

[feral cave]

true

also how are the professors there?

are most of classes taught my TAs?

[native smelt]

i wouldnt say most

usually u have lecture with the professor and then you have discussion/section with your TA

the professors are good for the most part

[feral cave]

but yk for people who are doing pre law, pre medical, need the good gpa regardless of the content

[native smelt]

my prob theory prof was too smart tho so a lot of concepts that couldve made sense with a short explanation didnt because thouse were intuitive to him

[native smelt]

yeah

im just saying that the content is hard

i mean you can but then thats pointless

i mentioned a researcher who was doing research in the field that i was interested

like his research aligned with my ECs and my academic interests

how much time do you have

[feral cave]

if freshman are hard then man i can only imagine how hard coming class would be

[native smelt]

well not not all the classes are hard

i think i just had a hard courseload my first sem

sure

[feral cave]

also can UG students take phd level classes?

[native smelt]

yeah

[feral cave]

from which year?

like sophomore or from freshman?

[native smelt]

it just depends on your preparation

i wouldnt recommend for someone to take grad level classes as a first year

[feral cave]

do people have to take permission or give exams for phd level classes?

[feral cave]

well that would be crazy as long as a person is like the genius who had his phd recently when he was 15 years old

[native smelt]

i mean this question just depends

like what field are you thinking? math?

or like physics?

[feral cave]

physics

[left ice]

Supplementary materials - science or engineering research
If you have been engaged in advanced science or engineering research, you may consider submitting a Science or Engineering Research Supplement.

how long can this be? if i submit a research paper

[native smelt]

i can talk about math because thats what i know

[feral cave]

yeah that would be cool to
what is the process?

to take phd level classes

[native smelt]

so the math pathway at yale is placement test is for calculus classes

[feral cave]

up to which calculus can we give exams?

[native smelt]

but if u dont want to do calc just yet you can take linear/take a placement test to skip linear

[native smelt]

calc 1-3, they dont usually like for people to skip calc 3 tho

theyre annoying about skpping classes

[native smelt]

wait now thati m thinking about it is moral of the story

its hard to skip to advanced classes

lol

[feral cave]

i wanto to directly start with calc 3

[native smelt]

yeah thats what i did

just take the placement test and place into calc 3

[feral cave]

well cause if you did skip into advanced directly it could be hard af yk

[native smelt]

yeah

[feral cave]

is the test online or we give it on campus?

[native smelt]

online

you take it befoer you get there

[left ice]

does anyone know?

[native smelt]

is there any more info here

[feral cave]

ohh
do people have like chances to retake or is it once?

[left ice]

The STEM Research Supplement form will allow you to attach a research paper or abstract. It also includes the option to invite a research mentor to submit a letter of recommendation electronically to the admissions office. Full research papers are generally more helpful than abstracts. If your research incorporated work from many individuals or was part of a larger project, please indicate your specific contributions when completing the form.

[native smelt]

just once

but you have unlimited time

at least for the math one

[left ice]

i have 2 versions a 20 page one and a 10 page one

[native smelt]

so just submit the full research paper

[left ice]

idk if the former will be too long

[feral cave]

ohh

how do i ask for css waiver for yale?

through mail?

[native smelt]

they just said full research papers are generally more helpful

lol

[feral cave]

@native smelt

[native smelt]

hm

you can email yale? you also might be able to get an automatic one

[left ice]

both are full 😭

alr then ig ill submit the longer one

[feral cave]

ahh fuck man

i requested for css waiver code but pasted Another university's name

and i submitted the form again after replacing the name

am i cooked?

[crimson kiln]

Is it fine if I submitted a bit late 💀

[meager bloom]

not rlly

😭

[frosty goblet]

Will they read it?

[meager bloom]

atp just submit

if u havent

[meager bloom]

if its a few mins late ur probably fine

[crimson kiln]

No I have but like it was less than an hour after the deadline

[frosty goblet]

I submitted in time I’m just curious

[meager bloom]

yale sometimes extends deadlines but

i wouldnt gamble

[crimson kiln]

Okay hopefully we'll see if I get the portal

[woeful plume]

if common app still allowed it to be submitted ur good

they have grace periods. theyre not gonna not accept ur application cus its a college and they like money

[crimson kiln]

yes i got the email and everything that it was submitted

ok thanks

[left ice]

what if they take the app fee and not read the application

[woeful plume]

do u think AOs r evil or something

[native smelt]

i mean the deadline is teh deadline for a reason lol

[woeful plume]

they are still human they know that sometimes things happen

[native smelt]

i guess. but its not like u didnt have a long time to complete this app

the person will probably be fine. but given that this app has been available since august 1st and submitting it late.. shows a little irresponsibility

[void lichen]

Did it say "congratulations you have submitted ...."

Then yes

It's through

[void lichen]

Whatever coalition says

[blissful sigil]

Yeah for research only

[gray scroll]

You should

[gray scroll]

AT YALE???

[gray scroll]

Omg thats a long break

[void lichen]

Yes, but you can get a certificate

They have some cool options

[left ice]

why havent they receieved my lors etc

commonapp shows they are downloaded

[weak lagoon]

none of my stuff show as received either

except for the application

[left ice]

hmm guess they will update

i got scared

lmao

[weak lagoon]

yeah same lol I was just going to ask about that

[feral cave]

same but they will process it in time ig

[native smelt]

give em a second

[gray scroll]

Omg

Thats so weird

[void lichen]

It takes a while to update the portal

[void lichen]

It's really easy to double major over there so I guess that takes away the need for a minor

I think

[native smelt]

no it’s not

lol

i mean for humanities it’s slightly easier but not easy

the only “easy” double major is econ

[void lichen]

Not in terms of workload or like experience

Just like no outward restrictions on doing it

Like Princeton

[gray scroll]

Oh

[gray scroll]

What restrictions do they have

[void lichen]

You can't double major at all

You pick a concentration and stick with it

[void lichen]

The actual answer I found from a Google search just says they focus more on depth in a specific area and a minor would just bog ppl down with additional requirements and those already sort of exist in the distributional requirements, there's whole articles on the ydn about it

[dapper flicker]

For me, my main major was biomedical engineering, however for the Why Yale, i wrote about the bioethics institute to contribute to my biomedical engineering work.

Would that technically be a nerf then since they just wan tyou to stick to one area?

[native smelt]

no

they dont want you to stick ot one area

its a liberal arts institition

[dapper flicker]

ok phew

[gray scroll]

question for the stem research supplement

what if my research mentor already did her lor on the actual application

do I say no to this

"Do you intend to ask a mentor to submit a recommendation on your behalf?"

[analog pebble]

Do i need to self report SAT on the yale portal if i alr submitted it on common app

For AP scores it says dont enter ur scores if already shown on common app but it doesnt say that for SAT

[dapper flicker]

Where's even the SAT report button?

[proud garnet]

How long does it take for the Yale portal email to be sent

[subtle trellis]

i submitted last night 1156 est

got it this morning

[proud garnet]

Bruh 🥀

[dapper flicker]

i thought you had to submit a thing for that to prove or email their office or smth

[proud garnet]

I don’t think so

This just seems like an extension

Cuz they would have talked abt the form in the message

[brisk quiver]

i feel scamed

[snow yoke]

Bro don’t pmo

[sharp flume]

Fuhhh

Fuck bruh literally

[dapper flicker]

when was this announced? Today?

[proud garnet]

yep

[dapper flicker]

bruuuh

they dont ever announce it like idk 2-3 hours before the deadline

[proud garnet]

omfg im so slow

i forgot to indicate the prompt number

for the 400 word one

[gray scroll]

wtf

this pmo

[proud garnet]

do i send an email or add a portal update

i was literally talking abt this yesterday idk how i forgot to add it

[dapper flicker]

prob portal update, i dont think you need a whole email to indicate 1,2, or 3

[proud garnet]

lowk dont know tho

people have gotten in while forgetting the prompt numbering so maybe it's not a huge deal

but my essay kind of works for both prompt 2 and 3 so im worried the AO's would get confused

[snow yoke]

OMG

I submitted my AP/IB test scores instead of ACT I’m ngl

[meager bloom]

well cus think about it

uve had since august 1

[snow yoke]

I have a 7 and a 4

[meager bloom]

and if they tell everyone

hey its extended

that doesnt hold true anymore

[snow yoke]

What is going on?

My common app didn’t say all this

Oh yeah

I was about to be like

[dapper flicker]

well lets say you didn't have extenuating circumstances, then those people are getting an advantage for not being on time - they dont check as far as i know

[opaque wharf]

doubt it but at the same time idk if AOs really want to be reading a 20 page paper

versus an abstract that covers everything

i know a lot of people who just submitted their abstracts

[meager bloom]

ur right, but they r trusting u didnt rely on an extension

its more of a

i dont know how to describe this

a university does not have the right to tell u they r extending a deadline when uve had 5 months

[dapper flicker]

Also, is this extension just an excuse for them to get more applicants or is it fully jsut for extenuating

[meager bloom]

both

[native smelt]

they probably read the abstract and skim the paper

[past sable]

Please describe your demonstrated financial need, including any circumstances regarding your household financial status that we should take into account when your financial aid application is reviewed.
This is typically a narrative describing (in as much detail as possible): who lives in your household(s), what source(s) of income do you all have, what routine and/or unique expense(s) do you incur, and/or why would paying for YYGS tuition present a significant financial barrier for you and your family.
Please feel free to include any special or "nontraditional" circumstances and details. You can also contact YYGS with any questions about whether or not any information should be included.

what do they mean by narrative here? (for yygs)

[meager bloom]

they want u to write a detailed explanation about how money is used in ur family

so who lives in ur house that relies on that money, where does the money come from individual wise, do u have to pay anything (rent)

that type of stuff

[past sable]

do i gotta tell any story/anecdote or just tell it like an expository essay? idk if its the right essay to try to use an interesting anecdote

[meager bloom]

it sounds more like the information for financial aid

less the application

[past sable]

yea it's in the finaid section cause im applying for need based aid mb forgot to clarify that

[meager bloom]

so when they say narrative

im interpreting it as they want something like this:

[snow yoke]

For yygs?

[past sable]

yes

[snow yoke]

Bring a fan

😞

[past sable]

oh yeah i saw that

[past sable]

is it that bad?

[snow yoke]

No like

Bring two

[past sable]

dangg

[snow yoke]

Bro yes the dorms are 102 degrees

[past sable]

wtf

[snow yoke]

But then sometimes it would get oddly cold??

[meager bloom]

“my family’s primary income comes from my father working a x as an xx, which has recently been hit with financial difficulties. this mixed with y medical expenses for my grandma with yy is a barrier for our financials, leaving no funds for programs like yygs”

instead of

[past sable]

what state did u come from

[snow yoke]

Michigan

[meager bloom]

my family makes x income and cannot pay

[snow yoke]

I’m from THE bipolar state

[snow yoke]

I went last year

[past sable]

ohh ok i see tysm

[meager bloom]

so try and go for the one i said above

[past sable]

im applying from tx hope i get in 🤞

[meager bloom]

not the short one that gives 0 context

[snow yoke]

You probably will!

[meager bloom]

narrate the struggles and y u need financial

[snow yoke]

I had a 3.6 w and got in!

[past sable]

i heard its competitive but not like too competitive

right

[past sable]

what was class rank

im 9/93 with 3.5 uw 😭

[snow yoke]

It’s competitive but they are more focused on your character higher acceptance rate than the school but still challenging

[past sable]

ooh ok

[snow yoke]

I was 97/576

[past sable]

oh wow

[snow yoke]

I also had massive life issues

So

[past sable]

like extenuating circumstances?

[snow yoke]

They took that into account definitely

[snow yoke]

Yes

[past sable]

ohh

[snow yoke]

I was working two jobs at the time and was the primary caretaker of my mommy

[past sable]

i think my school has really bad grade deflation tho

[snow yoke]

100%

[past sable]

i think 1st place has like 3.9-3.8 uw i forgot

[snow yoke]

That’s odd😭

[past sable]

i was surprised when i found out that was odd 😭

[snow yoke]

I hope I get in undergrad wise

[past sable]

same

[snow yoke]

😣

[past sable]

dw you got it

[snow yoke]

#mathmajor

[past sable]

at least ur not a cs major

[snow yoke]

True

[past sable]

if my mom receives monetary child support but like informally not legally, should i still say child support in the application

[snow yoke]

No

[past sable]

(as in it was never legally mandated that this person give us monetary child support)

[past sable]

how else could i say it?

[snow yoke]

Say your mom is a singular parent

That struggles and your father does minimum help

Unless he’s involved

[past sable]

my father is the one giving child support

[meager bloom]

child support is its own thing

[past sable]

he does not live with us

[meager bloom]

is he paying it through the government

[past sable]

no

[snow yoke]

Probably not

That’s why I said do single parent with no support

If you say no support they can’t prove that your dad helps out considering he hasn’t claimed you on taxes

Meaning you’ll get more aid

[past sable]

this said support is our main main source of income rn does that change anything

[snow yoke]

You don’t have to claim both parents in financial aid just the one claimed under your taxes

[snow yoke]

Who claims you on their taxes

[past sable]

my mom filed her tax return together w her and my dad

[past sable]

lemme check

[meager bloom]

are ur parents divorced?

[snow yoke]

Im assuming separated but not officially divorced

[past sable]

they never married

what i meant by together was that she put both her and my dads name on the taxes if that helps

[snow yoke]

Damn

[past sable]

bruh how do i check who claimed me on taxes google isnt helping rn

[snow yoke]

Yeah they have to take account both incomes

[snow yoke]

You have to ask them

[past sable]

it's aight both their incomes r low

[snow yoke]

Because they have the documents

Then ur good and should get max aid

[past sable]

my mom sent me her tax return

[meager bloom]

what does she file under?

[snow yoke]

Is it under 80k

[past sable]

very

[meager bloom]

most states require u to be married to be filed together

[snow yoke]

Yeah you’ll get max aid

[snow yoke]

That’s why I’m like they have to be separated

[meager bloom]

federally u cant

[past sable]

wdym?

[meager bloom]

federal taxes do not let people who havent been married file together

ur mom probably filed state taxes together

but federally u cannot

[snow yoke]

We’re saying only one of them could have your name on their taxes because they’re not legally married

That’s why you need to figure out who

I’m assuming it’s your mom

[meager bloom]

im pretty sure it probably is

[past sable]

uhh that idk, when i looked at the tax return js now it said its a joint return and that my dad is her "spouse" as said on this tax return

[past sable]

prob shes my main caretaker and stuff and the one that does all the taxes

[meager bloom]

r u looking at state or federal taxes

[past sable]

federal

[meager bloom]

and ur sure they have never been married

[past sable]

yes

ill ask again

nope they havent

[snow yoke]

They had to have been married if it says ur dad is her spouse

[past sable]

the closest they got was signing a marriage license but they never went before the judge or official authority to become married, they just got authorized to marry and that was it

wait it says married on the taxes actually 😭

she just told me they never got married though

[meager bloom]

is ur mom lying to u 😭

[past sable]

we r super close idt she would do that

she's busy w something but when shes done in a few mins hopefully ill ask her abt that

okay so she just told me theyre considered common law married cause we live in one of the states that actually recognizes that

[snow yoke]

Bingo

Either way it goes they both claim you on their taxes

[native smelt]

Just applied to work for the admissions office!! Venmo me 20 bucks and ill tell ur AO to let u in 💋 ✌️

[snow yoke]

I wish u were fr

😞

[carmine dune]

multiply that by a thousand and send it directly to the ao then maybe youll have a shot

[snow yoke]

HELP NOT YOU IN THE YALE SERVER

[past sable]

js wrote this out, and its 207 words
although the max is 300. would this be okay to submit? id say the more towards the max word count the better right

[meager bloom]

yeah

u have the chance to explain ur situation

in more detail

[past sable]

idk what else to put lol

i can prob think of more things tho

[feral cave]

I also just remembered man

Am I cooked?

[meager bloom]

i mean its always good to follow instructions

cus it sometimes can be hard to make out what ur answering

[feral cave]

So what do I do now?

How do I let them know that I was answering the community prompt

[carmine dune]

theyll figure it out themselves

[meager bloom]

ur gonna be fine

relax lol

its obv if in the second paragraph ur in a disagreement

that ur not writing about strictly community

[feral cave]

Ohh okay

Is this like a common problem?

Cause man if they just had the option to choose, it would have been so easier

[brisk quiver]

i also forgot to put the promt #😭

[meager bloom]

i think most do tbf

[feral cave]

Yeah Cause man why do they do it like that

[feral cave]

[proud garnet]

I’ve heard of multiple instances of people getting in even tho they forgot

So its probably fine

Also the fact that in the pdf/common app view none of the prompts are present suggests that when the Yale AO’s are reading the essays they have the prompts memorized in their head (like they know which is 1, 2, and 3)

And are probably focusing more on the content of the writing

[static grove]

the 'get more applicants' thing is likely why they gave the extension after the date

if its before, there will likely be people who already wanted to apply who will just wait more for their apps

which is good for them, but not for yale

giving it after means only new people will usbmit

very underhanded

[left ice]

I think it will be pretty clear

it’s segregated by 2 people, many people and yourself

[minor aurora]

I might just do Yale now 😳

[rich cargo]

Would it be a problem if I didn't talk about "and"? it's just that every single why yale essay I've ever read was about "and"

[feral cave]

mine is about the same

[void lichen]

I actually changed my why yale because I realised "and" was overdone

So it's not bad. I think they might also be less impressed with "and" at this point

[sharp flume]

i think that yale guy chris made it common

his essays were a bit

[void lichen]

no more chris hate pls

The boy has been through enough

[void lichen]

He got in though so that's all that matters

[sharp flume]

yeah he was cracked

and showed enough diversity

[sharp flume]

nah I don't hate him. I think his essays got pretty viral so the "AND"

[spark igloo]

haha same I originally did mine around "and" then rewrote it completely without it since it's so generic now

[feral cave]

who is chris?

[rich cargo]

I literally have his Google docs open😭

[sharp flume]

yea he is kinda famous

[rich cargo]

Literally this, though it was surprisingly difficult for me to find something as thematically compelling to talk about as and

[native smelt]

my only issue with admitted students essays is that you don’t know if that’s what got them in

a lot of people got in despite their essays instead of getting in because their essays. lol

so reading what worked for some person might not be the best because it worked because they were that person. not necessarily because it was a great essay

[sharp flume]

like 99% sure

[rich cargo]

No 100%, I actually use them as a guide on what not do sometimes

Atleast for specific schools

[native smelt]

i’m 100% sure they said so in my file

but like i don’t think my essays were crazy good or anything

[sharp flume]

yeah I could smell it miles away lol

[native smelt]

i think they worked because i’m me

[sharp flume]

amazing story honestly

[native smelt]

aw thanks

lol

[viral egret]

hey

now i wanna read them

@native smelt i sent my app in, but you wanna share those stellar essays with me?

[last elk]

Wdym abt "and"?

[native smelt]

i feel lol that’s yales whole thing

[last elk]

Like you can be x and do y?

Im confused lol i havent looked at any admitted students essays from yale online

[native smelt]

yeah

[last elk]

OH i googled it i get it now

[native smelt]

like the natural interdisciplinary nature of yale

[last elk]

Yeah that makes sense for a lot of people to talk about

[meager bloom]

i never was like “and draws me to yale” i just used and to show the interdisciplinary that matches my values/goals

[gray scroll]

OH BC YALE FOCUSES ON BEING INTERDISCIPLINARY

It's clicking now

Now looking back i think my application highlights that well

I didn't even realise it 😭

[gray scroll]

Question when schools say optional/ add materials to upload if it doesn't explicity say research abstract don't upload them?

Like ik some school say refrain from doing that but for those that don't just don't upload them at all

[proud garnet]

Wait I lowk didn’t talk abt it much in essays because the major I picked itself is really interdisciplinary and it seemed overused in every why Yale I read

Was I supposed to

I mainly focused on other aspects

[native smelt]

i don’t think it matters

guys you all already submitted your applications

even if something is wrong you can’t change it now

[night briar]

exactly

https://tenor.com/view/meditation-gif-17436395583685247793

let's all be zen

[gray scroll]

Needed

[opaque wharf]

nah, I think Yale has a lot of diff cultures besides js the "and"

the "and" framing makes sense given Yale but I think there's other unique approaches u can take

but I get it cuz of the residential colleges and very like interdisciplinary culture like everyone says every school is interdisciplinary but Yale excels in that

[static grove]

every fucking college talks about interdisciplinarity 😭

i wrote my 'why yale' abt interdisciplinarity, although i didn't specifically reference just 'and'

[meager bloom]

but every college also thinks their interdisciplinary is the best

[static grove]

meanwhile 90% of them are lwk the same

although i liked the way that brown, penn, and yale did interdisciplinary discussion stuff

the res colleges are actually really cool once i looked more at them

[meager bloom]

i didnt mention the res

[static grove]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-agartha-gif-6211173812848242691

[meager bloom]

i mentioned and tho

but not direct

[static grove]

wdym by not direct

so you talked about interdisciplinarity?

[meager bloom]

i never went “and draws me to yale”

but i mentioned and

[plucky void]

https://tenor.com/view/ohio-ishowspeed-tweaking-gif-15588474007810322935

that gif is fuckinggg crazy 😭

[static grove]

https://tenor.com/view/adrien-explain-our-friend-group-we-are-ohio-gif-9663518733606337371

[opaque wharf]

they're so cool but it js sucks cuz everyone talks abt them

[plucky void]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-twerk-cattwerk-gif-10526951988614619425

[static grove]

oh... so you're saying i'm cooked

thanks a lot shayaan

[meager bloom]

if u have a valid reason ur fine

its more the

[opaque wharf]

yeah ^^^

I js chose not to cuz I had no valid reason

[meager bloom]

“i love yale cus it has and and it has res colleges and its a cool campus”

[opaque wharf]

Like I was js yapping

[meager bloom]

i didnt have any need to mention res colleges so i didnt ya

[static grove]

i said i liked the idea of the residential college seminars and connected it to all my favorite classes this year

[meager bloom]

i dmed u rose what i meant

by not directl

[opaque wharf]

This is sick

[static grove]

which are like 5 ppl so it lets me geek w/ them

i fucking love geeking with people

[opaque wharf]

Wait everyone ik who goes to Yale say the culture is lit js geeking w people

Which is how I think it's diff from other schools

I remember on the podcast they said that they reworded the why Yale this year bc too many ppl would namedrop without like explaining why them and ik everyone hears that

But I think it was js like people wouldn't tie it back to themselves enough and they'd spend most of the words talking abt Yale

[static grove]

i should have just sai d'geeking w/ people'

for the extra prompt w/ 400 words, did y'all directly tie yours to yale?

or did you keep it more general/ about just you?

[brisk quiver]

mine not abt yale but i also did the disagreement essay.. soo...

[meager bloom]

no

it doesnt say to

so i just kept it general

[last elk]

ngl i feel like brown's "open curriculum" is sort of misleading

I was looking at the concentration in applying for and it still had a ton of class requirements

[native smelt]

yeah

[native smelt]

well of course your major is going to have major requirements.. but there are no requirements otherwise

[elder barn]

Just found out that my goat olivia zhang got deferred from Yale ea, it’s not cooked chat

[proud garnet]

is she that one girl who makes Harvard her entire personality

[summer halo]

yes

the only harvard student influencer i respect is soleil

[static grove]

that's not what the open curriculum means

it means no gen eds

[summer halo]

you still have to be able to be qualified in a field to get a degree you just don’t have to take courses outside of the fields you’re interested in

[sweet basalt]

didn't she graduate a while back

oh last year

😭

[summer halo]

yes 💔

[gray scroll]

who is that

[subtle trellis]

soon me as well (hopefully 🙏 )

[cunning flume]

R u gonna be a grifter

[subtle trellis]

nah i already just have the social media part

[modest kiln]

yo can i dm someone at yale

[subtle trellis]

now we need to make it to harvard 🙏

[native smelt]

sure

feel free to dm

[past sable]

"We want to learn more about your background, beliefs, values, and/or the important people in your life. Please tell us about something that has influenced you and articulate how it has shaped you. (150-200 words)"

for yygs
is it too generic if i write abt weightlifting and how its shaped me ofc, i think i also want to tie it into when i lost weight (fat to skinny, not excessively losing weight tho) a few years ago and how that shaped me?

[meager bloom]

u can talk about anything. i think most talk about their upbringing in either culture or family experiences, so if u can connect it to how its shaped ur values ur probably fine

[past sable]

so like if it influences me to have a specific positive mindset is that good

[meager bloom]

did yale extend again 😭 @half shore

[half shore]

yes

check common app or reddit

[gray scroll]

bro wtf

[meager bloom]

jan 7th now!

[half shore]

they love that money

win win for everyone pmuch

[summer halo]

how is yale of all schools not getting enough applications for their tastes

[native smelt]

they’re just decreasing their acceptance rate