#Waitlist Warriors (2024-2025)
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fair enough
a watched pot does not boil
I like that saying
im gonna stop being a madman in terms of checking a2c and my portals lol
@arctic plover ur also on CC ๐ญ
WHAT THE FREAK HELP LMFAOOAOAAOOAOAOA
ICONICC
Doing gods work out here
if any of yall here are on the cal poly waitlist a new spot has opened
damn uc davis over cal poly kinda unique
davis and ucsd are my dream schools (rejected ucsd :<)
love cal poly too but davis has had me in a chokehold
valid
davis prolly would've been where i committed if i hadn't visited for a competition
walking around takes so fucking long holy shit
davis over usc??
its just finaid
yep ๐ญ
im not cracked enough to get any scholarships
same ๐ญ
do parents actually lie about this
TOMATOPARTICLES
aggie
im aggie
i also get to see my dad and cousins in the bay area more ๐คฉ
i wonder where my cousin's goin to college
my cousin is trying to go to ucsd premed
hes in the bay area but i haven't talked to bro in a decade
same
i could've done this but like
my cousin goes to usc
i have 2 cousins and one of them went to nyu
back when i thought i was committing ucla we were beefing hard
my other cousin graduated from usc
i thought i was balling and then it turned out im not even the first one
LMAOOOOOO
are you in state
yeah
its crazy that five years ago ucla wasnt close to t20 public schools really are on the rise
Is not joining UCLA WL aura
i love ucla
well they changed the ranking system
no
so now public schools get included and ucla brags all over campus about it
BEST PUBLIC SCHOOL T15
My logic was UCSD was alr better for my major
you can't walk two feet without seeing #1 public school flag
uf is going ๐ and now they're hiring a new college president for it ๐
And I turned that down
yeah florida had to take down all of the #5 signs it was really embarrassing
rip florida
so they recruited the president of umich and now they're paying him 3 million to help florida
bro downgraded his job
SO REAL
(it's actually #4)
florida ain't a good investment anymore
oh shit he can make bank for like 5 years and then dip when florida goes underwater
fr
u got this bro
How bad are hurricanes in Uf
uhh i did that only lmao
Bro I ain't got no awards but I still think I wrote a banging LOCI hopefully tjat gets me in
We might all maybe have a shot
๐
real
Lack of awards only thing that might screw me over 300 words of pure stern interest and connect
holy yap
Is gonna carry me to getting of the WL ain't gon be anything else (ed2 and full pay)
good luck
tysm same to you gng โค๏ธโค๏ธ
lmaoo they took our president
Mainfesting Princeton
1 waitlist down, one more to go ๐ฅณ
LMAO
my gmail is so dry today
ofc not!
we manifesting stern ๐ โค๏ธ
day 52 of hoping i get off the ucsd waitlist
day 39 of hoping sach gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 39 of hoping sara gets off the irvine waitlist
day 24 of hoping bina gets off michigan/cmu waitlist
day 24 of hoping Nit gets off nyu waitlist
day 24 of hoping !sabella gets off bowdoin/uchicago waitlist
day 23 of hoping val gets off the lehigh waitlist
day 23 of hoping erin gets off the amherst waitlist
day 23 of hoping yuzu gets off berkeley/cmu waitlist
day 11 of hoping baksoo gets off the northwestern waitlist
day 5 of hoping ford gets off the uchicago, washu, pomona, and davidson waitlists
day 5 of hoping owlyowl gets off the uci,ucsd,ucla, and cmu waitlists
success:
Bina off the neu wl!
sara off davis wl after 38 hopes
lmk if u want to be added
almost forgot today
im tryna get off vtech wl vro
where r u committed
ucsc**
crazy yield protect
LMAO not usc i type fast accidentally misspelled
i only saw after u edited
day 52 of hoping i get off the ucsd waitlist ๐ฑ
day 40 of hoping aedrux gets off the emory waitlist ๐ฆ
day 39 of hoping katelynn gets off the ucsd waitlist ๐ฑ
day 40 of hoping val gets off the lehigh waitlist ๐ฆ
2๏ธโฃ 
day 32 of hoping jeni gets off her ivy waitlists ๐
day 24 of hoping bina gets off the michigan/central michigan university waitlist ๐ (GOT OFF NEU)
day 22 of hoping isabella gets off the bowdoin/uc hicago waitlist ๐ปโโ๏ธ
day 22 of hoping yuzu gets off the berkeley/central michigan university waitlist ๐ป
day 22 of hoping nit gets off the nyu waitlist 
day 22 of hoping erin gets off the amherst waitlist ๐ฆฃ
day 21 of hoping jaiden gets off the berkeley waitlist ๐ป
day 21 of hoping odyssee gets off the nyu waitlist 
day 19 of hoping 2006 time person gets off the ucd/uci/ucsb/ucsd/slo/stanford waitlists ๐ฒ
day 12 of hoping baguette gets off the central michigan university/nyu/ucla/williams/unc waitlists ๐ป
day 12 of hoping mm gets off the yale/columbia waitlists ๐ฆ
day 11 of hoping gabi gets off the ucla waitlist ๐ป
day 10 of hoping grossmeta229 gets off the williams waitlist ๐ฎ
day 8 of hoping luce gets off the wellesley waitlist ๐ต
day 8 of hoping kali gets off the duke waitlist ๐ต๐
day 7 of hoping nacl addict gets off the cmu/umich waitlist ๐ถ
day 6 of hoping howdareyou gets off the princeton waitlist
day 4 of hoping baksoo gets off the northwestern waitlist 
day 4 of hoping ford gets off the uc hicago/davidson/washu/pomona waitlist ๐ฆโ๐ฅ
day 16 of hoping carly gets employed
day 16 of hoping stephden gets employed
successes: Collin ๐ป UCLA, bina ๐บ NEU, ron BU + NEU, jeni ๐ UT, SARA ๐ฎ UC DAVIS
sara whens the #๐-commitments post dropping
day 41 of hoping i get off the Berkeley/cmu waitlist
day 22 of hoping aedrux gets off the emory waitlist
day 22 of hoping sara gets off the uci waitlist
day 22 of hoping Katelynn gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 22 of hoping sach gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 22 of hoping val gets off the lehigh waitlist
day 22 of hoping jeni gets off her ivy waitlists
day 22 of hoping bina gets off the Michigan/cmu waitlists
day 22 of hoping isabella gets off the bowdoin/uc hicago waitlist
day 22 of hoping nit gets off the nyu waitlist
day 22 of hoping erin gets off the amherst waitlist
day 21 of hoping Minerva gets off the Berkeley waitlist
day 21 of hoping Jaiden gets off the Berkeley waitlist
day 21 of hoping Drowzee gets off the CMU/Umich waitlist
day 21 of hoping boxingtoast gets off the BC/ND/Emory waitlist and USC Appeal
day 21 of hoping litire gets off the cornell waitlist
day 21 of hoping aedrux gets off the emory waitlist
day 21 of hoping odyssee gets off the nyu waitlist
day 21 of hoping nicole gets off the upenn waitlist
day 21 of hoping gavin gets off the SB waitlist
day 20 of hoping ash gets off the upenn wharton waitlist
day 19 of hoping fab gets off the udub waitlist
day 19 of hoping 2006 time person gets off the ucd/uci/ucsb/ucsd/stanford waitlists
day 18 of hoping rich gets off the u dub and umich waitlists
day 16 of hoping chan gets off the cmu waitlist
day 16 of hoping carly gets a j*b ๐คฎ
day 16 of hoping stephden gets employed ๐คฎ
day 15 of hoping baguette gets off the nyu, unc, ucla, cmu and williams waitlists
day 15 of hoping daisy gets off of colby + w&l waitlist
day 13 of hoping baksoo gets off the northwestern waitlist
day 11 of hoping gabi gets off the ucla waitlist
day 11 of hoping grossmeta229 gets off the Northwestern waitlist
day 7 of hoping vicky gets off the barnard and bu waitlists
day 7 of hoping allerqy gets off the uwash (thats what i call udub) waitlist
day 7 of hoping evan gets off the ucsd, ucla and uci waitlists
day 5 of hoping n32vis gets off the yale waitlist
day 5 of hoping p33p33 gets off of cmu, gtech, umich & rice waitlist
day 5 of hoping T R E E gets off vandy waitlist
day 5 of hoping Omen gets off NYU waitlist
day 5 of hoping ford gets off the uchicago, washu, pomona, and davidson waitlists
day 5 of hoping owlyowl gets off the uci,ucsd,ucla, and cmu waitlists
day 3 of hoping kali gets off the duke waitlist
day 2 of hoping Aryan gets off the nyu waitlist
day 2 of hoping fleur gets off the nyu waitlist
day 1 of hoping hy gets off the Vanderbilt waitlist
successes:
day 11 of congratulating bina on her northeastern acceptance
day 11 of congratulating collin on his ucla acceptance
day 6 of congratulating ron on his bu acceptance
day 6 of congratulating Aarush on his purdue acceptance
day 1 of congratulating sara on her uc davis acceptance
day 1 of congratulating lavacakes on his uc davis acceptance
day 1 of congratulating jeni on her ut acceptance
(ping me if u want to be added!)
did anyone get off for engineering/cs for uc davis wl?
i got off for chem e
i sent a photo of my david commit to the modbox and i didnโt get the option to post yet ๐ญ
Another day for the waitlust warriors
Lust??? lol
day 28 of hoping i get off of the Amherst waitlist
i mean thats whatt everyone in here does
amherst moved yesterday
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source???
I forgot where I saw it lmao
๐ญ
I texted Amherst moved to the gc immediately when I saw it
Amherst college or UMass Amherst?
do u know what site u saw it on / where u heard it from
I meant the person is u thatโs why i updated immediately to waitlist warriors ๐ญ
ik but like
Probably cc or xiaohongshu let me see if I could find the message
where u read theres movement
kk
christ there slowmode here is so long
another day another day manifesting NYU
any movmenet
there's also another post talking abt umass amherst from someone else
sobbing :,)
anyone know abt vandy 2nd wave for a&s?
any movenemnt
nyu ucla vandy movementyesterday
alkso emory said that theyd release deicisons 6pm ET today??
AYE
im so fucked ๐ญ
of course the first comment is "is there berkeley waitlist" ๐ญ
amherst and umass amherst are different!?!?!?
bruh i just found out those were 2 seperate things I thought people were referring to the same place if they said amherst lol
Call Harvard pls someone
its so over for williams
Cornell COE plz accept me
i will say that it doesn't specify Amherst College or UMass Amherst
and since ppl are getting off of UMass
and Amherst says that it doesn't typically start till the middle of the month
im guessing its UMass
any updates for ucla
any movmeent chat
i did
Did anyone call Yale and Princeton yet
iโm wishing the callers the best of luck
any movement chat
What happen
yes
pls. 4PM is our time
any chance theres a nyu cas wave at 4
please if i can see a cas wave in 41 minutes
im in a reddit gc and someone called
they said there was going to be a wave today btw
so im hoping for the best but I wont be dissapointed if I dont get it cus theres so many more waves to come
the waves are random right?
i mean is there an order / what students they put on each wave besides dividing it up by school
idk
100%?
that's what they said idk if they will follow through
but yeah I would trust NYU admissions tbh
meowza
idk if id trust some random redditors lol
my waitlist form changed for nyu, the place where u could select alternate majors dissapeaered idk if it means anythign tho
prob dont mean shit, how tf u find this lmao
ucsd wave today pls
day 23 of hoping Bina gets off the michigan/cmu waitlist
day 23 of hoping sach gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 23 of hoping aedrux gets off the emory waitlist
day 23 of hoping sara gets off the uci waitlist
day 23 of hoping katelynn gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 23 of hoping val gets off the lehigh waitlist
day 23 of hoping jeni gets off her ivy waitlists
day 23 of hoping erin gets off the amherst waitlist
day 23 of hoping litire gets off the cornell waitlist
day 23 of hoping !sabella gets off the uchicago and bowdoin waitlists
day 23 of hoping Nit gets off the nyu waitlist
day 19 of hoping yuzu gets off berkeley/cmu waitlist
day 7 of hoping Omen gets off NYU waitlist
day 7 of hoping owlyowl gets off ucsd, ucla, cmu waitlist
day 7 of hoping baksoo gets off northwestern waitlist
day 6 of hoping T R E E gets off vandy waitlist
day 6 of hoping Ford gets off uchicago, washu, and pomona waitlist
day 4 of hoping Kali gets off duke waitlist
day 2 of hoping narwhal gets off cornell waitlist
Successes:
Collin got off for ucla on 4/24 ๐ฅณ
Bina got off for neu on 4/25 ๐
Jeni got off for ut austin on 5/2 ๐คฉ
Ford got off for ut austin on 4/3, bucknell on 5/1 , reed on 5/1, and uci on 5/2 ๐คฏ
Sara got off for ucd on 5/6 ๐ช
When does SB decisions usually drop
litre i got off the ucd waitlist yesterday ๐คฉ
congrats! I fixed it
I need Fords luck bro jesus
Any news guys
Lemme in
any nyu movement for anyone
not for me
sample size of two
I hope youโre aware that youโre not the only person on the waitlist nor are you certain to get off in the next wave
dude
im in a wl chat on reddit with 74 people
I don't need this negative energy ๐ญ
Literally
dw im p sure theres gonna be a wave friday based off last years pattern
im sure I have a good shot of getting off then especially being full pay + ed
so much demonstrated interest
Iโm in the gc for a specific college and there is this girl telling us โguys as a current student I donโt think they are using the waitlist at all this yearโ every other day like we needed to hear that
wait were u the one who dmโd me abt nyu wl grp chat ๐ญ๐ญ
ive been in this gc since ed1
upenn first wave tmrw
yep, just gonna pray and keep my expectations low
is bro gatekeeping ๐ญ
specific college ๐
I donโt want that person to know Iโm trash talking them?๐ญ
ok time to make some more calls and then i have to lock in for ap lit final
are you doing the ones from reddit?
The shadeee ๐
Jeni pls reply to my DM ๐ฅน
THIS IS SO GOATED SOB :,)
when brooks tho ๐
@arctic plover are you going to call berkeley again btw? Someone on CC said they called as well and they said that they havent admitted anyone off the waitlist so everything is contradictory ๐ญ
i can do that
i'll ask about appeals while im at it
okieeee tyyy
berkeley is being an opp did i just get freaking voicemailed
im literally committed to your school bitch ๐ญ ๐
HELP NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT WOULD BE SO EMBARASSING
thats lowkey why im too scared to call CMU again ๐
what major are they asking u to call CMU for?
theres no point in calling for SCS cuz thats like overfull
what about UCLA for intl, the office should be open rn I think
mathematics
wait thereโs two women tho usually
if you call closer to 12-1 EST or lunch time basically, you get the other one
HELP
now there is a guy but he rarely is there unless you call really early
Jeni what did Harvard say
before ANYONE asks how i know: iโve been on edge since november ๐
anyway if you do call them, can you ask abt COE ๐
BRO HAS IT FIGRUED OUT
bros been strung along since november except im rlly on good terms w the other one!
but the meaner sounding lady is often whose straight with you and tries to get u to leave her alone that way
but she also gives you mixed answers
iโm also guessing any cmu movement would be on fridays or 5 PM
can someone call UCLA for intl college of letters and science plsssss
they donโt pick up usually no
I thinks its cus their offices are only open from 1-4pm pt
thank you! (310) 825-3101. waitlist for college of letters and science for intl
LOL u can keep them jeni this is my one time deed of community service
Oh wait so you people really go off work at 4:30
HELP LMFAOOO wait keep what im stupid
ucla dont pmo
the phone caller requests ๐ญ๐ญ
jesus christ this is long
bro stanford is so strange they only take calls tuesdays - thursdays 9am to 3pm PT
YEAH SEE
okg iโm being connected
OMG DID THEY PICK UP THIS IS INSANE
yes
AND THEYRE CLOSED FOR LUNCH FROM 12-1
๐ ๐๐
so they have no insight on how the waitlist will moveโsome got offers but then it goes in rounds on rolling based on needs
currently reviewing but theyโre waiting on people who got offers
thatโs what UCLA said
okok thank youuuuu
let me give u guys a quick sneak peek about HYPSM
hella guys
H - presumably no waitlist movement yet because the lady said she heard no news
Y - havent called yet
P - have made offers and expect to make more throughout may
S - havent gone to waitlist, haven't determined if they will need to
M - haven't gone to waitlist, haven't determined if they will need to
Fuckkkkk cmon Harvard
Thatโs brutal
purdue has given so many offers but didnโt michigan go through waitlist alr?
LMFAOOOOO
what do the letters stand for?
Wait so either Harvard isnโt taking anyone off or the lady just is clueless
no like they havent taken anyone off yet
Prolly the former ๐ฅฒ๐ฅฒ๐ฅฒ
they took 41 off last year so idk
Oh wait so are they going to or no
HYPSM
H is Hofstra, Y is Youngstown State, P is Purdue, S is San Jose, and M is Michigan
Or do we not know
we are not aware
they arent sure yet but no offers have been made yet presumably as far as she knows
Okay thatโs chill
princeton kind of aura-lossing rn ngl
So we arenโt entirely cooked
whatever this is good for me ๐
Tysm jeni
i hope cmu opens a spot for me ๐ ๐ฅ
bro the ucsd guy telling me to check my portal for waitlist decisions... mf i was ADMITTED ๐
Same
im starting to get rly anxious about Amherst wl ๐
id call them but erm theyre closed rn ๐
berkeley pmo sb rn
they wont pick up the phone
stop voicemailing me im literally enrolled
Dont
Anticipate to enjoy where you're going
Plan to stay at Penn
And if you dont like it? Transfer
But if you end up liking it, do stay!! it's a very very good school, as long as it fits your goals
THANKS
yall ping me if there is any ucsd movement
I think the next sd movement will be next week
My friend missed her sir deadline and appealed. The deadline for her to make a deposit is this Friday
the school is fine and I like it
I want to break into IB and its gonna be rlly hard
Helloooo
from penn state
youre gonna transfer later then?
ya they give u 5 days ๐ญ to make a choice
I heard smeal is pretty good but yeah IB is tough
im tryna transfer after my freshmen year
u could try transferring to unc
ib loves their ivys and sternies thats for sure ๐
which is semi target and they have a a decent transfer acceptance rate
Yesss UNC has a pretty decent acceptance rate along with NYU
tho stern is tough to get into nevertheless
but i mean if u prove urself at penn state u could break into ib. are u in schreyers or the saphire program?
bro if nyu lets me off this damn waitlist
u could still try to get into econ at their liberal arts school
i might apply transfer maybe
WE ๐ฃ๏ธ ARE ๐ฃ๏ธ
nah im in smeal tho
i rly wnana go to a lac :< idk if ill like brandeis
i hope i do!!!! but like im kinda uncertain about it now
econ is in cas yeah
Im just tryna plan earlier
uva pls pls ๐ญ๐๐ฝ๐ญ
uva would be cool too for finance
YESSS WE AREE, I love PSU rn they gave me 2 years worth of credit
Literally my shayla, they won my heart
wait can you graduate in 2 years??
Holy wow
lowkey graduating in 2 years then going to a top MBA school might be game
ye
I coulddd! I have an associates but i opted for 1 bc premed T-T
Thatโs so goated yeah
wait
Im not a finance kid lmaooo
theres two penn state kids i GOT YOU CONFUSED WITH OMEN LMFAOOOOOO
LMAOOO WHOOPS
omgomg this is so goated ๐ญ graduating early is sososogoated for premed
Im the og Nit on the NYU waitlist lmao
penn state smeals still agood business school tho. like ur guarenteed a good job if u try maybe just not ib
YESSSS i was not expecting them to take all my credit but PSU even took texas gov like they want me frrr
obviously im going for a 4.0 but you basically only have one semester to build you ec profile
makes sense
like what do you do bro ๐ญ
join nitany fund or whatever its called
how can you get research/internship in the first semester
just do like a local firm
cold call/email
you dont need like jpmc ur freshman yr
any stanford movement or do i gotta wait until next week
remember good things come to those who are patient
realll
yes
wl decisions may spring out of nowhere when ur least expecting it
I stopped my obsession with nyu portal
gl chat
Yalll got thiss bro, i was previously on a NYU wl obsession and loved it but no matter what youre gonna coookkk
Im just gonna pray and hope for the best
ive just been waiting for stanford to move since march
but should I continue my hs passion projects if I wanna transfer
ive been waiting since december bro
๐ซ
No literally
I was getting ice cream and all of a sudden I got a status update at like 1:30 I was like wtf
Someone got off UVA just now
WHO WHERE WHAT
mixing up uva and unc craz ๐ญ ur good tho
Tbh Iโm expecting movement either tmr or Friday for uva so itโs chill
they love thursdays ๐ค
yeah but they would still take people off the waitlist right cuz there are only a few cases of people missing the sir deadline
they already have an idea of yield right
waitttt i thought u changed ur name to Omen
cuz Omen also is going to penn state and NYU waitlist
i thought that was u ๐ญ
Is ucla moving today
hes trollin
o
usually ucsd releases waves at 4pm
any wellesley wl updates?
Anything for Brown or Columbia?
LMAOO
Can sm call Yale
please Berkeley please
NO
THE GIRL WHO WAS MEAN TO ME BCUZ I GOT INTO BARNARD GOT OFF THE BARNARD WAITLIST
be mean to her back
๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
when will berkeley move
โhaha imagine not getting into barnard in marchโ
laughs in getting off the uc davis waitlist
โheyy congrats on getting in barnard! iโm glad they thought about you a second time, and you def deserve it! i mean, i guess i deserved it more haha but like still, super happy for you!โ
apparently one of my classmates is going to berkeley... (rumor)
LOLLLL
LOL T-T
Nahhh im still Nit guys
holy '28 aura
ive just been busy with Ap Exams and PSU stuff so ive been off lolol
LMAOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOO
YESSS THEY SAID I COULD GRADUATE 2 YEARS EARLY BUT IM PREMED SO IMA DO 1 YEAR OFF
I LOVE PSU, THEIR BIGGEST FAN RN
bro i have two other ppl i dont like from my school who r going to barnard
someone kill me 
me and my ex are both going to penn
YAYYYY
hell nawww, Isabella youre gonna cook anyways
and theyre interested in things im interested in so theyll prob join all the orgs i want to join
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO its ok ur taking a gap year tho right...?
my goal was to get away from everyone at my school but my neighbor who also goes to my school (who ive known for 12+ years) is also going to gt...
welp no ucsd movement
๐ฟits ok we chill tho
for Berkeley, very important info
im lowk oos so only kid at PSU but kids be judging me for not waiting on NYU anymore lmao
Its ok 28 aura gonna carry moi
my cousin accepted caltech over berk so i know theres one open spot ๐
REALLLL
i need this person
to talk to my WL colleges
what the heck
also whoever wrote that reddit post that yale isnt taking anybody off is lying btw so if you saw that dont trust that
leah is the goat for this
(i mean, they might not let anybody off... but not for the reasons they were citing)
nah i didnt write that someone else on CC wrote that ๐ญ
Yale might take off a few people but 0 is such a lie
real
mannn why they giving SIR extensions
STILL A GOAT LEAH
leah goat
i know three people who rejected yale so (stanford, harvard, and caltech respectively) ๐ญ
yeahhh theres so many cross admits
People who get into yale are very likely to get into other goated ahh schools
i mean tbf just because someone turns down their offer dosent mean it will open a waitlist spot
if a school has 2000 seats then they dont only admit 2000 ppl yk
they always admit more than the seats they have and only when that number starts to go low then they go to waitlist iirc
ok but im guessing the cross admit ratio this yr is NOT in favour of yale it seems
LOL asf bro ๐ญ
that woman lied to me on god
Lowk yale over harvard for moi but I get ittt T-T
Not like i got in tho hehe
whats so fucking annoying heon is that we ask for more info and she just ghosts. i feel like she doesnt actually have strong tied to ao friends and is just gatekeeping ts bruh ๐ญ
ok they specified Amherst college
fuuuuuck WHY COULDNT IT BE ME!!!!!
apparently ppl have gotten off of bowdoin too
heโs business
NVM HARVARDD rahhhh
guys
maybe it wasnt about the waitlists
maybe it was about the friends we made on the way
i made no friends just get me into amherst <3
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i have like 20+ linkedin cmu connections ๐ those can be my friends
lowk valid just get me into NYU
i feel so apathetic rn about it like
I have a gut feeling that something good is going to happen tmrw
why even waitlist me just let me down right away pls ๐
no be positive erin
go listen to manifestation music
my go to is telekinesis by travis scott
yeah they havent taken any off yet apparently when i called 2 days ago
maybe it just started to move?
cmu isn't even that good
i think waitlisting 10k people is just ridiculous
ucla does it
that was four days ago
๐ญ๐ญ itโs my number one choice since sophomore year so for me it is lol
imo schools should only waitlist about 25% of their class size assuming they also account for yield in their original acceptances
yo is it normal to get waitlisted at 10 private t20s
like stanford who only waitlists around 500ish
oh hmmm
yeah they told me there was no movement but i specifically called for dietrich so
last year cmu stats:
applied: 33,941
admitted: 3,959
waitlisted: 16,484 (10,062 accepted a spot)
accepted off waitlist: 32
whenever u get the chance can u call again ๐
cmu should be waitlisting like 5k MAX
i mean it is what it is atpppp just would be nice ๐
2024: 32
2023: 75
2022: 43
2021: 35
2020: 288
2019: 140
how many people taken off waitlist for cmu
๐ญ๐ญ we know theyโre a little insane
i still don't know how i got in with my 3.9 W gpa 1340 sat
did u ed or rd :O
RD
ur insanely awesome thatโs why ๐๐
i dunno about that
i mean cmu theater is insaneeee gotta support my fellow nyu program members โผ๏ธโผ๏ธ
LOL
Im lowk friends with all the PSU kids now, its funnn
BINA NEU GOAT, are thou still waiting on CMU???
Did it move yetttt
YEA people are saying it did for my major but we called and heard nothing
u email admissions
no u just lose the deposit
"hey i wanna drop out of x school cuz i got into y school" then they say "okay ur money is ours still tho, make sure u cancel housing and classes if u registered" then move on with life
yeah it sucks, like CMU's was $800 so if a school (cough UCLA cough) takes me off a waitlist, bye bye moneys
neu was 650
Holy shit
Thats a lot
Even a stingy ahh school like usc was like 60 or 80 usd for housing app
brandeis was $100 for me
Ucsd waitlist better not be cookrf
upenn princeton and mit don't either!
same with columbia
looks like a lot of the ivys dont require one
quick question
does anyone have any resources on writing fire supplementals for transfer essays
have a very clear โwhy transferโ that isnโt just โi wanna go to a better schoolโ
I wanna make sure I stand out
would I just research the programs that are unique to that school
not even that you need like a very legitimate reason e.g. for community college kids itโs that they physically cannot attain a bachelors at their current institute
hmm then how do kids succesfully transfer from a state school for example to an ivy
or for example if youโre switching to a completely different career path and that school is much much better for that career
or for example youโve truly absolutely unequivocally exhausted all of the resources at your current school
hmm
depending on the ivy those are rare
what if I wanna go from penn state to unc chapel hill or uva for example
thatโs def possible
hmm I rlly wanna try for cornell
would it be smart for me to start as a data science major at penn state
but then "change" my interest into finance or something
and talk about why all these schools are better
im gonna try to find something niche
i still dont understand why they have a million ppl on the wl
makes no sense
Itโs a consolation but also stresses everyone on the WL off
stanford my goat
atp a wl means nothing
cmu wl pmo especially since they released finaid estimates
i think everyone should give their school a try and while hoping on the waitlist is normalโyou didnโt even give psu a chance.. planning ahead like that doesnโt make senseโwhy not just change ur major there? will be a question brought up
making me mald over 2k coa
if you think youโd be miserable then i think just be honest w admissions about it, you donโt need to fix yourself up be authentic (ap lit reference..)
well finance isnt niche so you might wanna look a bit more
bruh they're leading u on
usc pmo with the 11k coa
damn for usc thats basically free
id happily sac the $800 if i get into stanford ๐คฃ
i can save that money leaching off of my parents food and having a lower meal plan
stanford yield is weird
Hi
does location matter for waitlists ๐ someone from my school got off ucla for engineering
i'm def overthinking this but i'm just that devoted to ucla ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
Aint it by major
major and demographics
please ucla you need another premed asian dude
i have shrimp plsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplspls
LMAO
just hope youre not from a highly competetive area
i feel like most colleges want to balance out their pool
it might matters if you're from a underrepresented state i thjink\
because schools try to get someone from all 50 states so e.g. if youre from ND
i had an ao say in an info meeting that they love the dakotas ๐ญ
apparent 25% of the kids that got off the yale waitlist last year tho were from the same city in cali so who knows if it really matters
idts
hi gang
demographics also dont matter that much lol because the amount of people they accept off the waitlist is so little
yeah a lot of ppl r like oh if an asian person declines they will take off more asian ppl but thats not how it wokrs
in state vs out of state does matter to an extent tho because one of the schools i called told me they mostly accepted oos for their first wave because more oos decline
this is only for public schools tho
uchicago and bowdoin PLEASE
im in state...
ucla you NEED another compsci asian girlie that sings๐ค ๐ค๐ค
bro everyone i meet here is either ucla accepted or ucla waitlisted
where are my fellow ucla rejected ๐ฉ
number #1 public univeristy in us ahh
#4 public university in the US ๐ฃ๏ธ ๐ฅ
wait tbh UCSD being higher than LA is valid ๐
i love the location
(SD are you seeing this)
plus the campus is so beautiful
good luck w/ the waitlist o7
YESS the beach omg
the only thing i kinda don't like is the cloudy weather sometimes, but the campus makes up for it
berkeley mogs ๐
Anybody off Princeton or Wharton today?
Add me please ๐ I need udub so I'm becoming religious fr
Were u a major with a portfolio based app or nah
no
waitlists are driving me mentally insane
what are you waitlisted for
BXA, engineering and technical theatre
so partly portfolio based, im not too sure how the engineering part works
cornell/jhu/neu
oooh wishing you all the best
thanks, but im cooked ngl
should i put ur keyboard smash display name or ur username ๐ญ
has anyone gotten off rice waitlist
wharton/upenn waitlist movement starts tomorrow
WILLIAMS COLLEGE:
my counselor called williams and they said the waitlist is "on hold"
Sounds fun
My friend got off harvard wl
I cant break into IB at penn state
thats literally the problem
but it seems like im cooked for the ivy league anyway
bruh what
Like 20 mins ago they told me
hmm
Can sm call Yale and brown
u got into columbia brooooo
i wish i were u i got waitlisted
What do u wanna know abt brown
FUCK
unreasonably mean
where were they initially committed
Columbia
nice
Guys can sm pls call Yale
Fr
in diana we trust
day 51 of hoping i get off the uci waitlist
day 42 of hoping the uci admits go to an ivy (minus columbia, princeton and brown)/stanford/usc
day 40 of hoping sach gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 37 of hoping katelynn gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 35 of hoping jeni gets off the princeton, brown and columbia waitlists
day 24 of hoping bina gets off the umich, cmu and neu waitlists
day 24 of hoping !sabella gets off the bowdoin and uchicago waitlists
day 21 of hoping nit gets off the nyu waitlist
day 21 of hoping erin gets off the amherst waitlist
day 21 of hoping yuzu gets off the berkeley/cmu waitlists
day 21 of hoping val gets off the lehigh waitlist
day 20 of hoping jaiden gets off the berkeley waitlist
day 20 of hoping odyssee gets off the nyu waitlist
day 15 of hoping baguette gets off the nyu, unc, ucla, cmu and williams waitlists
day 12 of hoping baksoo gets off the northwestern waitlist
day 11 of hoping sbotz gets off the stern waitlist
day 10 of hoping evan gets off the ucsd, ucla and uci waitlists
day 10 of hoping litire gets off the cornell waitlist
day 9 of hoping vicky gets off the barnard and bu waitlists
day 8 of hoping allerqy gets off the uwash (thats what i call udub) waitlist
day 6 of hoping ford gets off the uchicago, washu, pomona and davidson waitlists
day 6 of hoping owlyowl gets off the uci, ucsd, ucla, and cmu waitlists
day 6 of hoping n32vis gets off the yale waitlist
successes:
bina (northeastern)
collin (ucla)
ron (bu; holy shit less than 1% wl rate you are a unicorn fr and neu)
jeni (ut austin)
ford (uci, reed, bucknell, and ut austin)
me (uc davis)
lavacakes (uc davis)
(ping if you'd like to be added)
Did they send loci
If any body gets off let me know
do u think theyโll let us off or pull what they did last year
I think
Like does loci matter at this point or is it based on insutitonak needs
Deff let us off ๐๐
the latter
they better not edge us like last yr ts pmo ong
Fr
Thatโs how I feel too
Actually idc about Columbia and i love the school im committed to
pls just like MOVE
When r extended commitments days till
where are u committed girlie
Rice
Help i love ur pfp
thank u baddie
okayyy ATE
Yale pls I need to either get out of my delusions or try harder
What about you
Teehee
USC ๐ช
They give you 96 hours normally
ATEEEEE
is columbia the only wl u would leave rice for
lowk columbia waitlisted 3 ppl from my school but im the only one in seas ๐ญ they waitlisted so many of us canadians holy edge
Columbia or maybe cmu
Dangg
Wbu?
sheesh i lowk didnโt stay on the cmu wl cuz i hate the rain ๐ญ
only columbia too LOL
Its so nice to sleep to thooo
iโm from raincouver i need a change unfortunately ๐ฃ๐ฃ
Ahhh I see
which state are u from?
wait lowk what are u gonna do with ur roommate if u get off
Awwwww
plss yale needs to let me off the WL now
I need to get off NYU genuinely
aaaaahhhhhhhhj columbiaa ๐ฟ๐ฟ
do u have a pic
the latter but also
seas or cc
Seas
Nope
holy
cornell is legit like on dnd
institutional needs are a joke ngl loci still matters, that being said, ppl have gotten off ivy waitlists without loci and the quality of the loci really doesnt correlate with getting off
my friend called again toay and no response
didnโt someone get off the CALS waitlist today
didnt harvard just say they werent taking anybody off yet though @arctic plover
for phone calls
columbia too
i called this morning tho, iโm guessing chloeโs friend just got the news
hiii jeni
hi cholk!
but yh most movement is coming from cals. im expecting cas and brooks to have movement soon hopefully
other schools may be cooekd
i got the craziest edge today from columbia
what happened omg
They did
HELP
bro nothing will beat when some random columbia guy in the office accidentally forwarded me the entire exchange between my guidance counselor vouching for me and my regional AO
like genuinely edge of all time i thought i was getting a portal update
me with brown pre college
LMFAO bro def got fired
oh yeah i got that too
bro the pre college emails pmo im literally graduating ๐
My college counselor just sent a letter
Hopefully thatโs as effective?
ngl if i had the money tho id wanna do a precollege program at a school i wasnt going to the summer before i went
Wait Jeni did you get into columbia?
Apparently someone got off for Stanford
confirmed?
Idk, saw on xiaohongshu
all schools moving except columbia is crazy work
berk and ucsd:
columbia probably has high yield
XIAOHONGSHU HELP LMAO
i was expecting less lol
ill wait for my goat brandon tineo to confirm all of this
it was from a consulting company
columbia always moves late
No please
move earlier pls ๐
Thatโs insane
actually idc idc idc idc
nothing on CC
well ur friend going to harvard off the wl means waitlist movement for columbia ๐ญ
Wait ur right
yeah especially in your region (if they do region, which im not sure they do)
thanks luis
And we are the same major
GOAT
which one :0
Cs!
!!!!
@arctic plover on that columbia inst page i dont think u need to be committed to join it so i feel like a decent amt of ppl joined then chose another school maybe?
like they were considering it so they joined then dipped ๐ฃ
@visual otter
oh perhaps so i def think thereโs gonna be movement regardless tho
can you send reddit link to that post
what's up?
the dude didn't provide a link ๐ญ
https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1khffh8/attention_to_all_waitlisted_applicants/
ivy wl having more movement than ut ๐ฅ
i swear everyone says either zero movement or a lot of movement
he was like "im going to make a website where you can track waitlist decisions" and then he forgot to post the link
it sounds gpt written but its still funny
ivy WL having more movement than NYU
i think theres going to be a normal amount of movement
๐คฃ
normal distribution
is the population normally distributed?
did you check the technical conditions?
no its vibes based
manifesting nyu movement tmrw for cas
@rugged aspen wait just wondering but would u go uci > ucd or are u hard committed ucd
stats ๐ฑ
shut up shut up i dont want to think about stats ๐ญ
nah i'm getting first place
wait poggers
yeah guaranteed 4
youre set guys dwwww
and i only need 3 for credit ๐ฅบ
Stats is lighttt kinda
my next ap isnt until wednesday #bless
i will not get credit no matter what score i get ๐
stats is my 5th ap this year
5 aps in senior yr 
im taking 6 ๐
condolences and good luck
4 here
thanks you too
lol i finished 3 ap exams, time for 3 more....
lowkey i didnt have to take csa stats or psych
one of the freshmen took the human geo ap exam (only for jun and seniors at my school) after selfstudying for a week
ohhh hum geo was for freshman at our school yeahhh
none of my aps this year counts for anything other than elective credit ๐ญ
omg i think thats the same thing for bu ...
unironically cooked
i think lit counts for gen credit
LOL the trick to credit glitch is to put them into a cc degree lmao...
but you totally didnt hear that from me lolll
I need a 4 for Penn state
Gotta maintain a 4.0 there man
If I wanna break into IB is it better to complete undergrad in 3
And then Do masters from a target school
Or should I just transfer after freshmen year
Itโs acc not too bad
Abuse the formula sheet
dwdw you got this
I did the same and i did decent
day 53 of hoping i get off the ucsd waitlist
day 40 of hoping sach gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 40 of hoping sara gets off the irvine waitlist
day 25 of hoping bina gets off michigan/cmu waitlist
day 25 of hoping Nit gets off nyu waitlist
day 25 of hoping !sabella gets off bowdoin/uchicago waitlist
day 24 of hoping val gets off the lehigh waitlist
day 24 of hoping erin gets off the amherst waitlist
day 24 of hoping yuzu gets off berkeley/cmu waitlist
day 12 of hoping baksoo gets off the northwestern waitlist
day 6 of hoping ford gets off the uchicago, washu, pomona, and davidson waitlists
day 6 of hoping owlyowl gets off the uci,ucsd,ucla, and cmu waitlists
success:
Bina off the neu wl!
sara off davis wl after 38 hopes
lmk if u want to be added
penn hasnโt moved either sob
theyโre saving the best for last
its ok
hard committed ucd
frfr
briefly forgot for a moment i was rejected from ucsd 
me laughing at the college admissions influencers who claim having no internships nor prestigious club positions that represent your school will get be rejected from all the ucs (i got into davis without all that!)
moral of the story just do the ecs you like
PREACH!!! this is the key
just describe the joy and accomplishments you have for your activities and you're all set ๐คฉ
Frrrr
wait should i take u off the hopes for uci
yeah go ahead
nvm lol
just wanna see where this goes for fun
real
i can't figure out how to take myself off some waitlists(admittedly didn't try very hard) so ig i'm here for it
LOL me core with NYU, not going but kept myself for the plot
UCLA portal down?
day 42 of hoping i get off the Berkeley/cmu waitlist
day 23 of hoping aedrux gets off the emory waitlist
day 23 of hoping sara gets off the uci waitlist
day 23 of hoping Katelynn gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 23 of hoping sach gets off the ucsd waitlist
day 23 of hoping val gets off the lehigh waitlist
day 23 of hoping jeni gets off her ivy waitlists
day 23 of hoping bina gets off the Michigan/cmu waitlists
day 23 of hoping isabella gets off the bowdoin/uc hicago waitlist
day 23 of hoping nit gets off the nyu waitlist
day 23 of hoping erin gets off the amherst waitlist
day 22 of hoping Minerva gets off the Berkeley waitlist
day 21 of hoping Jaiden gets off the Berkeley waitlist
day 22 of hoping Drowzee gets off the CMU/Umich waitlist
day 22 of hoping boxingtoast gets off the BC/ND/Emory waitlist and USC Appeal
day 22 of hoping litire gets off the cornell waitlist
day 22 of hoping aedrux gets off the emory waitlist
day 22 of hoping odyssee gets off the nyu waitlist
day 22 of hoping nicole gets off the upenn waitlist
day 22 of hoping gavin gets off the SB waitlist
day 21 of hoping ash gets off the upenn wharton waitlist
day 20 of hoping fab gets off the udub waitlist
day 20 of hoping 2006 time person gets off the ucd/uci/ucsb/ucsd/stanford waitlists
day 19 of hoping rich gets off the u dub and umich waitlists
day 17 of hoping chan gets off the cmu waitlist
day 17 of hoping carly gets a j*b ๐คฎ
day 17 of hoping stephden gets employed ๐คฎ
day 16 of hoping baguette gets off the nyu, unc, ucla, cmu and williams waitlists
day 16 of hoping daisy gets off of colby + w&l waitlist
day 14 of hoping baksoo gets off the northwestern waitlist
day 12 of hoping gabi gets off the ucla waitlist
day 12 of hoping grossmeta229 gets off the Northwestern waitlist
day 8 of hoping vicky gets off the barnard and bu waitlists
day 8 of hoping allerqy gets off the uwash (thats what i call udub) waitlist
day 8 of hoping evan gets off the ucsd, ucla and uci waitlists
day 6 of hoping n32vis gets off the yale waitlist
day 6 of hoping p33p33 gets off of cmu, gtech, umich & rice waitlist
day 6 of hoping T R E E gets off vandy waitlist
day 6 of hoping Omen gets off NYU waitlist
day 6 of hoping ford gets off the uchicago, washu, pomona, and davidson waitlists
day 6 of hoping owlyowl gets off the uci,ucsd,ucla, and cmu waitlists
day 4 of hoping kali gets off the duke waitlist
day 3 of hoping Aryan gets off the nyu waitlist
day 3 of hoping fleur gets off the nyu waitlist
day 2 of hoping hy gets off the Vanderbilt waitlist
successes:
day 12 of congratulating bina on her northeastern acceptance
day 12 of congratulating collin on his ucla acceptance
day 7 of congratulating ron on his bu acceptance
day 7 of congratulating Aarush on his purdue acceptance
day 2 of congratulating sara on her uc davis acceptance
day 2 of congratulating lavacakes on his uc davis acceptance
day 2 of congratulating jeni on her ut acceptance
(ping me if u want to be added!)
day 53 of hoping i get off the ucsd waitlist ๐ฑ
day 41 of hoping aedrux gets off the emory waitlist ๐ฆ
day 40 of hoping katelynn gets off the ucsd waitlist ๐ฑ
day 41 of hoping val gets off the lehigh waitlist ๐ฆ
2๏ธโฃ 
day 33 of hoping jeni gets off her ivy waitlists ๐
day 25 of hoping bina gets off the michigan/central michigan university waitlist ๐ (GOT OFF NEU)
day 23 of hoping isabella gets off the bowdoin/uc hicago waitlist ๐ปโโ๏ธ
day 23 of hoping yuzu gets off the berkeley/central michigan university waitlist ๐ป
day 23 of hoping nit gets off the nyu waitlist 
day 23 of hoping erin gets off the amherst waitlist ๐ฆฃ
day 22 of hoping jaiden gets off the berkeley waitlist ๐ป
day 22 of hoping odyssee gets off the nyu waitlist 
day 20 of hoping 2006 time person gets off the ucd/uci/ucsb/ucsd/slo/stanford waitlists ๐ฒ
day 13 of hoping baguette gets off the central michigan university/nyu/ucla/williams/unc waitlists ๐ป
day 13 of hoping mm gets off the yale/columbia waitlists ๐ฆ
day 12 of hoping gabi gets off the ucla waitlist ๐ป
day 11 of hoping grossmeta229 gets off the williams waitlist ๐ฎ
day 9 of hoping luce gets off the wellesley waitlist ๐ต
day 9 of hoping kali gets off the duke waitlist ๐ต๐
day 8 of hoping nacl addict gets off the cmu/umich waitlist ๐ถ
day 7 of hoping howdareyou gets off the princeton waitlist
day 5 of hoping baksoo gets off the northwestern waitlist 
day 5 of hoping ford gets off the uc hicago/davidson/washu/pomona waitlist ๐ฆโ๐ฅ
day 17 of hoping carly gets employed
day 17 of hoping stephden gets employed
successes: Collin ๐ป UCLA, bina ๐บ NEU, ron BU + NEU, jeni ๐ UT, SARA ๐ฎ UC DAVIS
thats a lot
holy
nyu lowkey waitlisted 250 times my senior class
Manifesting movement after ap stats today
any movements
apparently someone tried to call the cmu office & theyโre closed but their opening hours were correct
gm my waitlist warriors
ok cmu waitlists we got confirmation: donโt hold your breath if youโre not in the fine arts. offers have made to kids in fine arts but not everyone elseโthey said it was highly unlikely
has anyone been taken off rice waitlist
oh INTERESTING
can i collect this data
i called and they said offers of admission have already gone out. they currently donโt have any more updates, and donโt expect to until closer to june 1.
what about yale ๐ญ
all yours bae
they let someone off like in april but idt theres been movement since
ill call to ask tho later
Can u call Williams and Dartmouth later jeni ๐ฅน
They have already been called
Dartmouth is closing and Williams hasnโt moved yet cuz they are still assessing the numbers
cornell schools have not been picking calls up
my friend tried calling brooks they havent picekd up
yeah thats what i saw too
AP stats done
Easy as fuck
Hopefully soon
Any movement
NYU pls tmrw or today
Does this mean they arent looking to make wl offers?
probably unless someone drops their spot
Yes I think so
At least for now - but there still could be double depositors
double despositors the biggest ops
ong
Oof lol
any chance its tonight
im getting into stern as second choice fr
So apparently no ucla wave today
how u know
i mean i thought they released mainly on friday but portal was down like this morning so i thought maybe a wave
I think they always released on 10AM PT this year
But yes portal might indicate updates - probably tomorrow
im calling cornell admissions rn for wl and they have such nice hold music
its like country guitar music and its very soothing :-)
if upenn breaks their cycle today im gonna be so pissed
univeristy of teneessee hold music is like grand royal music
CAN THESE COLLEGES PICK UP
oml
ive been on hold with uni of tenessee for like 15 mins
girl u got barnard
im joining jeni in her quest of like calling a bunch of schools to ask abt wl
OHHH
what do u do if a school tells you to call their director of admissions to follow up on ur waitlist status but whenever u call u automatically go to voicemail ๐ญ
My friend who got off Harvard wl got off Princetons
today?
Yea
oh shit
Seriously give other ppl a chance
itโs not their fault ๐ญ๐ but i get u
๐ฅน
๐ญ
@south spire i think you can take me off ur manifestation list i think im technically employed at kumon now ๐ฅ and potentially another spot too
(Itโs not in writing but im lit going in on Monday after my ap music theory test ๐ฅ )
who had a question abt dartmouth
i called them and they said no students have been admitted off the WL so far. she also said its too early to determine if students will be admitted off the WL or how many, but they will be notifying students from now till end of July
:0
So yeah basically filled just too early to decide if thereโs double depositors
What a guy
congrats!
waitlist warriors keep winninggg
to think that all of these tortures is just the first week of May
And Iโm going through alevel exam season rn๐ญ
does cornell roll out their wl decisions out at once
Saw someone got off CALS wl
or like they roll them out over time in one day or smth.n like that
any movement chat
which one are they going to
LMAO WHAT THE LOCI
go gtown lmao
No clue
I KNOWW
honestly, howโs this even possible
both schools take 20-40 off per year out of 1000+, what are the odds they both waitlisted and then took off the same applicant
low but existent odds
waitlists (and admissions) past a certain point are quite luck based
not to diminish anybody's accomplishments of course - everybody that gets off deserves to get in
all im saying is that there are also other accomplished people that could've gotten in but didn't... and that's not because people like that did anything wrong in particular or messed up their app. it's just luck
i just callef like 15 schools
help
which
uhh lemem check
any of cmu unc chap nyu williams or ucla
georgetown, dartmohut, umich, UF, wellesley, princeton, soka univeristy of america, uteneesee, columbia, yale, colby, tulane, shout out to cornell and amherst and BU for not picking up
doing bc rn
how much u have gadamn
What did Columbia say?
what did yale say
the lady was just like yeah i have no clue abt anything so im gonna call them back soon
No students have been admitted off the WL yet. They donโt know how many students will be admitted off WL. But he said that students will know if they are admitted from now to the end of July.
just finished BC
๐๐ญ
oh good
i called cmu today
^^
only fin arts rigtht
they said to not expect anything atp for anything STEM related
Why they be gatekeeping
THANK YOU WAITLIST WARRIORS IL
Omg congrats man
idc i already leakde it before lol
@rapid dust ur crazy
bro did u get in??????
THANK YOUUUU
My login isnโt working I think they might be putting it in
omen getting in fr
Holy shit Iโm scared
BRO GL BRO WE IN THIS TOGETHER
Wait what did Wellesley say?