you finish the validation tests over plebe summer first, you get to sleep, you get into advanced classes
#All Service/Military Academies (2024-2025)
exotic hatch
me neither
calc 3 with vectors next semester
prob stats
all the way up to prob stats for tier three majors
distant spoke
so if u have AP credit in BC that counts towards calc 2?
so i can just do skip ahead to calc 3
warped solar
calc 3 with vectors next semester
same here
exotic hatch
you have to take the validation test over plebe summer
but yes your bc credit should let you jump to calc 3
distant spoke
oh alr
exotic hatch
so actually try in bc
digital plaza
rotc is cooler than the academies tbh.
distant spoke
cause you do not want to take calc 2 here
BC is ez as hell
exotic hatch
rotc is cooler than the academies tbh.
rotc is school with a lil military
exotic hatch
BC is ez as hell
good shit
digital plaza
rotc is school with a lil military
perfect mix.
warped solar
i got calc 3, microeconomics, the human event, sea power & maritime affairs, and intro to actuarial science
exotic hatch
rotc is school with a lil military
service academy is military with school
digital plaza
i got calc 3, microeconomics, the human event, sea power & maritime affairs, and...
NS 100 !!!!!!!!!!
exotic hatch
integrals are hell
warped solar
rotc is school with a lil military
the only military we really do is parade around in NWUs at 0500-0800 every day
and then go to our classes
distant spoke
integrals are hell
they are lowk lol
exotic hatch
the only military we really do is parade around in NWUs at 0500-0800 every day
lmao in civvies
distant spoke
do u think its equal in difficulty to AP BC?
exotic hatch
we dont get that freedom
distant spoke
(if u took it)
warped solar
lmao in civvies
civvies and sleeping at 9am when it's all done
warped solar
although for some reason our PT scores are insane
exotic hatch
at the end of the day we all commision
warped solar
we have a prior in our unit who promoted to E4 just because his PT got so good in ROTC
for fleet standards it was amazing but for ROTC standards he was on the FEP borderline
digital plaza
thats wild
exotic hatch
yeah i feel like the service academy aint good for fleet integration
most kids here never been in the fleet
warped solar
we've got around 30 active marines through the MECEP program
and 6 active navy through STA-21
exotic hatch
asus a big rotc school isnt it
warped solar
all somewhere between E-4 and E-8
warped solar
asus a big rotc school isnt it
for navy it's so-so? around 100 total navy and marines iirc
exotic hatch
having a master chief in college is insane
warped solar
having a master chief in college is insane
he's a MARSOC MSgt
warped solar
he just looked at me like "son im not a midshipman"
opposite here our gunny is the one who gives the discipline
the LTs just deal with you if you're late or have bad grades or some shit
if you suck at PT gunny will let you know
suck at drill? gunny's gonna fix that
warped solar
our chiefs and gunnys are insanely chill
we don't have any chiefs
distant spoke
@exotic hatch what sport are you doing?
warped solar
1 CAPT, 1 CDR, 3LT, 1 CAPT (marine side), 2 2ndLT
exotic hatch
intramurals technically but if you are in like a dvelopment extracirccibular, you can get it waived
warped solar
and then 1 GySgt
those are our staff
lots of gunnys in the battalion though
they're hilarious
warped solar
i love our staff gunny too but his job is discipline so i don't interact with him that much
he's really good at fucking people up for being bad at PT
is it all active duty staff that teach your classes
warped solar
ahh
exotic hatch
or retired
warped solar
makes sense
we do some of our cruises together yeah
i heard some academy kids go to NSI before going to plebe summer why do they do that
warped solar
no yeah ik that
exotic hatch
more to integrate the fleet people to school again
warped solar
but there were academy kids at NSI cycle 1
exotic hatch
ive never heard of nsi ppl
warped solar
which is supposed to be NROTC only
warped solar
huh
i think you're misunderstanding
for some reason the first iteration of NSI (first cycle) they had USNA kids go
not many but some
none in the second or third iterations
exotic hatch
ive actually never heard of that
warped solar
odd
exotic hatch
none in the second or third iterations
yeah thats when plebe summer starts
warped solar
yeah apparently they went to NSI, graduated that, took a few days, then went to plebe summer
digital plaza
why would you do that to yourself
exotic hatch
nah
exotic hatch
nsi is not plebe summer
digital plaza
no like
exotic hatch
from what i heard
distant spoke
yeah apparently they went to NSI, graduated that, took a few days, then went to ...
jesus
exotic hatch
boot camp boot camp boot year
warped solar
nsi is not plebe summer
NSI is closer to enlisted boot camp
than plebe summer
we do basically the same activities just condensed
digital plaza
yeah isnt it literally just navy RTC's curriculum in 2.5 weeks
its even at great lakes
warped solar
they're not allowed to fuck with us as much as the recruits though
digital plaza
really
warped solar
its even at great lakes
yeah we ate meals with the recruits
digital plaza
how come / was there a noticeable difference
warped solar
they fucked me up for not having a belt at sick call
until i said "candidate" instead of recruit and they instantly laid off
warped solar
i asked why he said only certain staff are allowed to fuck with the candidates
if you're not supposed to be fucking with the candidates and you get reported then you get in big trouble
digital plaza
huh interesting
warped solar
they're supposed to keep candidates and recruits separate
digital plaza
do you guys wear the same shit
warped solar
i had a few interactions with recruits mostly at sick call
warped solar
do you guys wear the same shit
yes but different colored belt, normal cover instead of recruit ball cap
exotic hatch
plebe summer was way too damn long
warped solar
so when i was indoors and didn't have my belt i looked exactly like a recruit
digital plaza
very cool
digital plaza
good to know
im gonna try for NSI 2 instead of 3
i dont think i can get 1 cause i have school until the 26th
which is the day before 2 starts LOL
warped solar
from what i hear NSI 1 is the hardest because they're still testing what they can do
NSI 3 has post-OCS marine midshipmen
digital plaza
im assuming thats bad news
warped solar
yeah they just fuck with you more because they're fresh outta OCS
digital plaza
its like the boss > husband > wife > son abuse
warped solar
@exotic hatch do they IT the fuck out of you during plebe summer
digital plaza
oh yeah was NSI like physically demanding or did u cruise by
exotic hatch
yeah
digital plaza
u do PT on like red cards right
warped solar
u do PT on like red cards right
yeah they red carded us a lot
exotic hatch
and they just pick at us
warped solar
but they banned the cards cuz too many fat kids got sent to the ER
digital plaza
what the fuck
warped solar
so much gray space
gray space?
exotic hatch
gray space?
time in between evolutions
digital plaza
thats genuinely wild
warped solar
are you serious LOL
yeah one division had 3 dudes get sent to the ER
exotic hatch
because plebe summer was 7 fricken weeks
digital plaza
yeah one division had 3 dudes get sent to the ER
ER is actually wild
exotic hatch
you run out of things to do
warped solar
oh yeah was NSI like physically demanding or did u cruise by
hell naw that shit was easy
exotic hatch
the detailers run out of steam
warped solar
you just do a lot of holding shit on line
digital plaza
i gotta take your statement with a bit of salt cause you are very physically capable
warped solar
hurts your shoulders and hurts your quads/hammies
digital plaza
i fell off after doing my PFA
warped solar
like you'll cramp almost every night
digital plaza
oh
warped solar
what does this mean
arms parallel to deck holding items out for extended periods of time
the worst was blankets
digital plaza
OH
warped solar
or the damn boots
warped solar
those fucking suck bro
digital plaza
what are leg levers
warped solar
we had to do a shit ton of those
digital plaza
like flutter kicks ?
warped solar
so it's way heavier
exotic hatch
up and down
warped solar
increases the suck by like 100x
exotic hatch
embrace the suck
digital plaza
is that a plebe summer thing or did that happen at NSI too
digital plaza
what are fuck games
digital plaza
could you give an example
warped solar
like folding blankets with arms parallel to the deck for 3hrs straight
digital plaza
bruh
warped solar
anyone fucks up a fold or drops the blanket we restart
exotic hatch
lol you are making rez regret it
digital plaza
nah
digital plaza
ye
warped solar
did you guys get to do confidence chamber at plebe summer
digital plaza
confidence chamber is such a funny name for the gas chamber burh
warped solar
yeah
exotic hatch
were there any baddies at NSI
i heard that
warped solar
were there any baddies at NSI
yes but you barely saw them
digital plaza
fuck
warped solar
if you look at them you'll get fucked up by the RDCs and MIs
digital plaza
bruh
warped solar
because they watch you like a hawk whenever girls divisions come by
digital plaza
LOL
warped solar
cuz they know they're gonna catch someone lacking
warped solar
yeah no you're gonna get the whole div red carded
digital plaza
😭
warped solar
while yelling "i am not here to look at girls petty officer"
every time you finish an 8 count
distant spoke
do yall know how long it takes after dodmets is complete for dodmerb to get the docs
only thing im waiting on
digital plaza
depends on the provider
exotic hatch
it takes like
digital plaza
usually 1-2 weeks
exotic hatch
yeah
digital plaza
up to a month
digital plaza
cuz ur provider has to send them and then dodmerb has to review them
so that could take a min
warped solar
@exotic hatch love how our experiences are so different yet we're gonna end up with the same commission
digital plaza
idk what that is
distant spoke
ah then it must be a maryland thing lol
digital plaza
civ team gives u like a partner clinic
exotic hatch
<@456226577798135808> love how our experiences are so different yet we're gonna ...
im not hating it
warped solar
nah i used concentra
digital plaza
i didnt
exotic hatch
doesnt everyone use concentra?
its concentra
digital plaza
i went to the fucking hood
exotic hatch
just different places
digital plaza
oh
distant spoke
i went to the fucking hood
💀
distant spoke
its concentra
oh alr
warped solar
im not hating it
do you guys deal with ROTC mids at all or just other academy mids
digital plaza
my doctor was in east new york which is next to brownsville and bushwick in nyc
which is like one of the highest crime areas
exotic hatch
do you guys deal with ROTC mids at all or just other academy mids
nah
rotc mids thinks academy mids are tryhards
warped solar
nah not really
exotic hatch
academy mids dont think anything of rotc mids
warped solar
rotc mids just think of academy mids as academy mids
the only academy mids we have experience with are the ones who leave ROTC to pursue an appointment
those guys are pretty stuck up im ngl
the rest we dont really have any opinion on
warped solar
the guys who try to transfer to the academy i notice that they don't really have a "why"
besides prestige
and they struggle the first sem at ROTC 😭
but that's only n=2 so i cant speak for all of em
exotic hatch
@distant spoke play all the og fortnite you can now
my roomie plays fortnite 8 hour a day
warped solar
wait you guys are allowed to bring your own PCs?
distant spoke
my roomie plays fortnite 8 hour a day
LMAO
im enjoying my last few months of civilian fun
im kinda slacking off in school rn, but my grades are still good
warped solar
wait did you get your appt already
warped solar
sheeeesh
exotic hatch
but gl finding time here
warped solar
my PC won't fit in my room
exotic hatch
im kinda slacking off in school rn, but my grades are still good
its all good enjoy it
exotic hatch
im enjoying my last few months of civilian fun
yup
last time you wear civilian clothes for like months
warped solar
do you guys have pajamas or is it just PTUs
distant spoke
wait did you get your appt already
LOA
distant spoke
if all my other app stuff is good
which it is
dodmerb isnt a worry im fine
got my appointment
nomination*
but i also kind of applied to 15 civilians schools 😭
so im kinda waiting on those
distant spoke
yeah
warped solar
you do realize if you hit that you're fucked
because you can't get rid of your ED contract to go to a service academy
exotic hatch
because you can't get rid of your ED contract to go to a service academy
you can
schools have to let you go for service academies
congress wrote something up a few years ago
distant spoke
man the forums got misinformation then
theyre outdated
they let u go for ED or u can just say u dont wanna pay
cause sometimes they dont offer sufficient financial aid
exotic hatch
yeah the old folks ont he forums dont have the gouge
distant spoke
i will forever be haunted by the abbreviations DS and DD
warped solar
what are those
distant spoke
Dear son, and dead daughter
dear*
just used by parents who ask for stuff on behalf of their kids
warped solar
during my nom interview this kid's parents pulled up in full USNA gear
this kid was a hot mess and did NOT want to be there
it was so hilarious cuz the parents were coaching him on what to say
distant spoke
during my nom interview this kid's parents pulled up in full USNA gear
yeah my mom almost pulled off smth similar during my BGO interview
she was like "before i go, I would like to say my son.."
just unnecessary glazing
distant spoke
nah im african american
warped solar
ah
distant spoke
well i was actually born in africa but immigrated 2010, got my citizenship like 2015 or 2016 i believe
warped solar
ahhh gotcha
warped solar
it was so hilarious cuz the parents were coaching him on what to say
btw this guy was obviously the worst candidate in the room
didnt talk to any other kids during the mixer, didnt talk to the congressman, any of the alumni or panel
only talked to them during the meeting
exotic hatch
bro
you can see exactly here
whose parents wanted them to come
and who actually wanted to come by themselves
the kids who wanted to come independantly are the ones that eat in king hall everyday
grind their asses off
the kids whose parents wanted them to come
get their food delivered everyday
(uber eats or the actual parents)
but its like a crazy thing, these kids dont even wanna be here
my parents didn't know about usna until I got in lmao, and I was a direct applicant
lwk kinda wild, but the people that care the most are the best performers
the people who don't complain are the best performers
and the people who know why they are there are the best performers
tips for the incoming class
warped solar
get their food delivered everyday
wtf you can do that??
warped solar
and the people who know why they are there are the best performers
this is the same with ROTC
find your "why"
exotic hatch
wtf you can do that??
yeah ubereats and shit
exotic hatch
find your "why"
matters more here i think
warped solar
it doesn't matter where it matters more
exotic hatch
never been rotc i wouldnt know but quality of life here sucks
sucks and is so good at the same time
service academies are weird lol
your entire person changes
warped solar
here it matters because you're up at 0500 every day doing stupid shit when you have normal college life dangling in front of you on a stick
where you can pull all nighters and sleep in
and if you're late or UA it's GG
instant PRB
warped solar
exactly
exotic hatch
finding the good in everything you do
warped solar
ROTC attrition rate is horrible after first semester and first year
exotic hatch
embracing the suck
warped solar
because that's when you can still back out without any obligation
and kids come back from break thinking "why am i doing this shit"
exotic hatch
ROTC attrition rate is horrible after first semester and first year
yeah i feel like usna's attrition rate is high because of how different it is
because when you go back home for the first time
your friends change
warped solar
yeah ours is high for different reasons
exotic hatch
your view on the world changes
warped solar
do you guys get room checked
exotic hatch
every day
warped solar
yeesh
warped solar
yeah my room would get hit at least 500 times
this shit is nasty
banned stuff in plain sight
warped solar
ehhhh a form of it
it's 4 MIDN that set it up and take it down
we're on a schedule
and then we rotate with army and af
warped solar
i've done it i think 4/5 times
the upperclassmen dont like doing it so they'll bribe 4/C with chickfila
finite tusk
💀 💀
exotic hatch
thats wild lmao
finite tusk
i love af
warped solar
i dont complain though i enjoy my sandwich
exotic hatch
we get free chikfila whenever theres like an event
finite tusk
they accept intl students but its very few
exotic hatch
fire
finite tusk
like 3 intl students go
exotic hatch
plebes
warped solar
we get free chikfila whenever theres like an event
oh shit?
shrewd crypt
they accept intl students but its very few
thank you for letting me know
warped solar
we just raid the dining halls for stuff
exotic hatch
ill prob have the option to go to nwc or naval postgrad college as a fed
u navy rotc?
finite tusk
your entire person changes
😭
finite tusk
(uber eats or the actual parents)
bruh thats insane
warped solar
u navy rotc?
nah hes normal dude
finite tusk
intern
finite tusk
real
warped solar
josh you already have your secret?
exotic hatch
nah
warped solar
cuz you need it for protramid right
warped solar
we're getting ours soon but our unit is lowk stalling
shrewd crypt
you can contact your embassy
awesome, i'll contact my embassy
currently at a different place right now for studies but i'm trying to consider new options
warped solar
4/c need them before going to cortramid
exotic hatch
awesome, i'll contact my embassy
currently at a different place right now for s...
good luck
and btw you dont serve us navy, youll serve your countries navy upon graduation
finite tusk
^
exotic hatch
4/c need them before going to cortramid
yuh
shrewd crypt
what's the gender ratio, or more specifically how favourable are they towards women
exotic hatch
depends on your country
its strictly up to your country to decide whether or not they want to send you here
typically other countries send top performing junior officers here
most freshman here have prior fleet experience in their foreign militaries
shrewd crypt
so probably not something i'd be able to get into then, at least culture-wise
exotic hatch
I dont wanna discourage you; if there is a will theres a way, but the military is not always nice when it comes to who gets to join and who doesnt
distant spoke
but its like a crazy thing, these kids dont even wanna be here
wtf
how havent they been kicked 😭
warped solar
@shrewd crypt put simply your country has to have an incentive to send you there---im assuming if they're gonna take the initiative to send you there they are expecting you to be a career officer
finite tusk
I dont wanna discourage you; if there is a will theres a way, but the military i...
this
warped solar
which is why they tend to send priors
shrewd crypt
<@1315725423547650133> put simply your country has to have an incentive to send ...
makes sense, thank you
exotic hatch
how havent they been kicked 😭
sports tied
a general asked a kid for their reason of being here
and this kid said football
finite tusk
skull
distant spoke
thats actual bullshit
finite tusk
how did he even get nominated
did he just tell his rep i wanna go to usna bc football
warped solar
and this kid said football
if they hit the portal do they still have to repay
exotic hatch
did he just tell his rep i wanna go to usna bc football
they get special noms
most football people go to naps for a year, then come here to play football
and naps people dont need congressional/senatorial noms
exotic hatch
if they hit the portal do they still have to repay
they are immune from the portal lol
warped solar
wdym immune from it
exotic hatch
thats actual bullshit
lol just be someone who wants to be here
warped solar
they still lose eligibility
exotic hatch
and want to get 1% harder to kill everyday
service academy are expemt from the portal
finite tusk
most football people go to naps for a year, then come here to play football
oh interesting
exotic hatch
my parents havent contacted my BGO once
mine neither
distant spoke
i think i have like
exotic hatch
good shit
distant spoke
is it wild i emailed him saying happy thanksgiving 😭
finite tusk
what designator r u hoping to do after usna
finite tusk
is it wild i emailed him saying happy thanksgiving 😭
😭
exotic hatch
what designator r u hoping to do after usna
*service community
I wanna do subs or nuke swo
finite tusk
I wanna do subs or nuke swo
based
exotic hatch
i want that money
finite tusk
i think its similar to what feller wanna do too iirc
distant spoke
I wanna do subs or nuke swo
didnt they have a shortage of people who wanted to do subs, so they had to take some out of aviation for class of '25?
warped solar
i think its similar to what feller wanna do too iirc
ya atm swo, swo-nuke, EOD
exotic hatch
didnt they have a shortage of people who wanted to do subs, so they had to take ...
mmmm
distant spoke
at least thats what my BGo told me
warped solar
didnt they have a shortage of people who wanted to do subs, so they had to take ...
they don't really "take it out" its more of a draft
exotic hatch
yuh'
finite tusk
ya atm swo, swo-nuke, EOD
you and will could team up in EOD
warped solar
they just snatch you regardless of whatever you want
distant spoke
but being top of the class reduces that chance right?
warped solar
for ROTC if your GPA is high and you're engineering high likelihood of getting sub drafted
exotic hatch
but being top of the class reduces that chance right?
nope
if you are too good
they will subdraft you
warped solar
but being top of the class reduces that chance right?
if you're insane and want something like SEAL/EOD or sometimes aviation with insane ASTB then yeah they might not take you
exotic hatch
youll realize at your time here
warped solar
but for the most part if the navy needs subs they get subs
everything you do is about the navy's needs
exotic hatch
your personal ambitions are good, but its all about the navy
dang feller
youll realize your sense of purpose and your goals will allign to the mission
most plebes here dont recognize that here yet
distant spoke
well thanks for the notice in advance, although i still want to go 😁
ngl i dont think even a million dollars would make me reject this offer
exotic hatch
thats the spirit
finite tusk
ngl i dont think even a million dollars would make me reject this offer
dont fall into the jane street trap
usna >
exotic hatch
lmaoooo
warped solar
i mean i wouldnt be mad with sub
you'll see what subs are like too
exotic hatch
true
and nuke swos
they get a bad rep because people dont wanna go to nuke school
exotic hatch
ngl i dont think even a million dollars would make me reject this offer
dont let anyone take that from you lol
warped solar
what do you guys do at protramid?
exotic hatch
keep that mindset, find out why, and youll be a good mid
exotic hatch
what do you guys do at protramid?
marines for a week, subs for a week, swo for a week
warped solar
wait is that your 3rd or 2nd class summer
exotic hatch
its the summer after freshman year
warped solar
oh
wtf the difference between cortramid and protramid then
just separating ROTC and academy?
cuz we do the same shit
marines, subs, swo, aviation
exotic hatch
and academy people tend to be more professional due to the military exposure
but some of them also plateu and do stupid shit
like frat
and drink
warped solar
LOL
exotic hatch
weve had adjudications for all those already
warped solar
and academy people *tend to be* more professional due to the military exposure
interesting i thought it would be the opposite
cuz i can frat and drink whenever tf i want here
you guys dont get to do that so i would imagine it would be like a golden opportunity for yall
exotic hatch
exactly
exotic hatch
interesting i thought it would be the opposite
the good ones ofc
warped solar
midshitbags
exotic hatch
alright my fine dedicated brothers and sistas in arms
exotic hatch
i have a chem final tomroowo so i will be going to bed
exotic hatch
how lenient r they
0 tolerace
warped solar
yeah if you're caught you get fucked
here too but it's just 10000x easier to not get caught
exotic hatch
mhm
warped solar
basically everyone does it cuz they dont gaf and dont check
finite tusk
0 tolerace
rip
warped solar
they only care once you get caught and they have to deal w/ it
warped solar
fuck around find out
exotic hatch
be smart or be strong
finite tusk
or crash out
exotic hatch
the fuck out
warped solar
be smart or be strong
-gunny
exotic hatch
good night yall
finite tusk
gn
warped solar
before he ITs the fuck out ofus
exotic hatch
pleasure
warped solar
peace
digital plaza
type type
exotic hatch
random generals and admirals just show up here
and important people
its pretty coool
exotic hatch
LMAO
exotic hatch
lol
distant spoke
well...
#1274778616609374268 message
the hypothetical has now become reality 😭
red and blue pill situation im facing rn
finite tusk
red and blue pill situation im facing rn
u could do jhu rotc?
distant spoke
u could do jhu rotc?
yeah thats what im thinking
finite tusk
yeah thats what im thinking
lets gooo
distant spoke
but i have 33 days to make a choice
see if anything pops up for the academy
highly unlikely theyll extend the deadline so idk
exotic hatch
to commit to usna?
distant spoke
what elements would u think is considered regretting
😭 that was worded like dogshit
distant spoke
i know a lot about both usna and jhu
but 33 days
is enough to put my mind to rest
exotic hatch
mhm
exotic hatch
my two cents is
if you come here
youll struggle now and be glad you did in the future
if you go to jhu, youll have a bit more fun, and youll struggle a bit more in the future
as both officer and civilian
distant spoke
i have a feeling ur a messenger from god 😭
warning me of what lies ahead
(joking lol)
exotic hatch
i aint gonna sugarcoat it is sucks here
and its hard
you get thrown a lot of shit
but you keep your mind straight and your goals are clear
i cant say for a civilian school but its a completely different world here
civilian school with a little military, or the military with a little school
plus, the networking here is insane. you meet some of the most badass admirals/generals
but on the civilian side, speaker of the house's son lives a few floors away
i declined my stanford offer a week after i got it and made no regrets
helped me sleep betetter at night
distant spoke
i declined my stanford offer a week after i got it and made no regrets
hmm
i dont really lose much attending either JHU or USNA
i still get that opportunity to serve
but i get what u mean 100%
distant spoke
rotc at jhu, youll need to pay either room/board or your tuition
its 5k for the school year
i got my financial aid offer
they deducted 85k
i dont have to pay it back either
distant spoke
yeah either materials science engineering or just plain mechanical
exotic hatch
...
distant spoke
my alternative to aerospace
exotic hatch
if you wanna go engineering come here dude
exotic hatch
u dont get to choose until after ur first year anyways or i think 2nd
you choose after your first semester
and if you validated enough classes, you can start on your major in the second semseter
twilit forge
I'm pre med engineering
finite tusk
yeah either materials science engineering or just plain mechanical
usna is p goat at engineering
plus u have a guaranteed job right out
exotic hatch
do you wanna be up at 5am every morning eating shit, going to school for 6 hours, exercising for 1, studying for 4, sleeping at 11 every day
wait the fuck what am i doing LMAO
exotic hatch
yeah dude go to jhu
finite tusk
i dont think anyone would wanna wake up at 5
exotic hatch
it's easier
finite tusk
well any normal person
warped solar
i dont really lose much attending either JHU or USNA
are you on ROTC at JHU
exotic hatch
i came to USNA cause it's hard lol
warped solar
i can speak for the ROTC side
all we need now is an enlisted dude
to talk about enlisting
😂😂😂
exotic hatch
if you wanna fly the academy is suited for that
distant spoke
are you on ROTC at JHU
nopeeeeee
and there was no option on the app 😭
ill look into it
warped solar
@distant spoke the biggest difference between the two is the lifestyle
AND that you aren't committing to 5 years of service with JHU
you can still go to OCS after if you wanna serve
i would personally take OCS
finite tusk
all we need now is an enlisted dude
theres someone in the AF reserves at my college
warped solar
theres someone in the AF reserves at my college
my new roommate's a prior
just made e-4
distant spoke
jhu has a lot of connections to big aerospace names, but either way... im going into the military after
rotc requires u to serve after right?
like 4 years
finite tusk
do you wanna be up at 5am every morning eating shit, going to school for 6 hours...
the few jobs that would probably be within my options that’d require me to wake up that early is like
warped solar
yes
distant spoke
or smth
finite tusk
being a watch officer
warped solar
5 + 3
finite tusk
or some other shit
warped solar
10 for aviation
finite tusk
and i wouldnt wanna wake up that early till im in my 30s or smth
warped solar
go to OCS homie
finite tusk
most of the dod jobs start at 7 or 8 so im chilling
warped solar
what if you find out you hate the life
finite tusk
rotc requires u to serve after right?
scholarship
warped solar
and stuck with it 5 years
finite tusk
if u get a scholarship yes
distant spoke
wait so ill have money left over?
if the college is covering like 95% of the cost..
what will the rotc scholarship do
finite tusk
jhu has a lot of connections to big aerospace names, but either way... im going ...
lockheed raytheon yea
also prob a huge feeder to nsa
warped solar
what will the rotc scholarship do
thats a question i cannot answer
finite tusk
rotc only cover tuition and books so
finite tusk
theyd probably just adjust the finaid
distant spoke
im still so lost
warped solar
i recommend you just go to JHU as a normie
warped solar
you're not picking up scholarship year 1
finite tusk
rotc would cover the 5k right?
opposite way
warped solar
ROTC would cover whatever tuition is
finite tusk
rotc covers 25k
exotic hatch
lol
finite tusk
mb
distant spoke
distant spoke
<@648364018234556426> how much is FULL PRICE TUITION
90k
warped solar
and your total finaid package
distant spoke
with room and board
warped solar
90k
separate them
i didn't ask for full price everything
just room and board / tuition separated
distant spoke
oh lemme get the figure
warped solar
that's why you're confused
warped solar
personally i would recommend going to JHU if you're nearly covered
distant spoke
12k room and board, tuition 66k
warped solar
ok i cant speak for air force ROTC
yeah no don't do a cross-town
definitely don't
it's inconvenient as fuck
finite tusk
in partnership with UMD
does it offer nrotc or is that also cross town
finite tusk
GW is the only nrotc program in the immediate dmv area i cant speak for jhu
distant spoke
yeah
warped solar
even if you could i dont recommend it
distant spoke
whats wrong with crosstowning?
warped solar
it's inconvenient as fuck
warped solar
commite
distant spoke
its 1 meeting every week
warped solar
you have to commute for your ROTC events and classes
warped solar
its 1 meeting every week
uhhh what?
distant spoke
wait lemme double check
warped solar
i have 3 PTs a week, 1 leadership lab, 1 drill day, and 2 days of ROTC classes
finite tusk
wait lemme double check
that sounds a bit off
warped solar
if i had to commute 30 minutes a day to all of that i would kms
warped solar
yeah no
you understimate the stuff that ROTC does
it's not JROTC where you can just fuck around
finite tusk
https://krieger.jhu.edu/rotc/ the only thing they seem to offer on campus is army rotc for jhu? but i suppose u dont wanna do army rotc lmao
warped solar
my personal rec is to go to JHU
twilit forge
^
warped solar
and when you graduate if you want to go in the military just go to OCS
warped solar
it's not worth signing your life away to go to the academy
if you have such a good offer on the table alr
distant spoke
its with scholarship + their grant
warped solar
yeah i would take it
again, the problem i see is being locked into something
go to JHU and you get a normal college life without being locked into stuff
and you can decide when you grad if you want to go navy still
while having a degree OF YOUR CHOICE
finite tusk
could u transfer after
wdym
distant spoke
alright
warped solar
it only works like that when a school has all 3
but yours doesnt so it doesnt apply
distant spoke
and if i go with the academy, whats ur opinion on that @warped solar
warped solar
i dont recommend it in your case
because you can get to the same path as a naval academy grad without signing 9+ years of your life away
AND have a college experience
there's a reason i didnt reapply to the academy despite having an appointment virtually guaranteed
all my shit is paid for here so i dont have to worry about cost and i get to have a hell of a college life
cannot stress this enough you might not even like the academy when you get there
wanna drop? you're fucked
back at square 1
twilit forge
and if i go with the academy, whats ur opinion on that <@534518554523992075>
What do YOU want? What's your end goal
warped solar
yeah
distant spoke
What do YOU want? What's your end goal
i want to serve through aviation
finite tusk
i want to serve through aviation
so navy pilot?
distant spoke
or if i cant fly then i want to become a aerospace engineer
finite tusk
ik
distant spoke
the general idea is "serving through aviation"
warped solar
being a pilot through ROTC/academy is an automatic 14 years of time you're 100% LOCKED IN
there is no dropping
without paying the government a substantial amount of money
twilit forge
i want to serve through aviation
If you want Navy aviation, your best bet is USNA if you absolutely don't see yourself doing anything else
finite tusk
also iirc pilot slots in general are one of the most competitive spots
distant spoke
If you want Navy aviation, your best bet is USNA if you absolutely don't see you...
its all a gamble tbh
warped solar
yeah most of the pilot slots come from the academy
distant spoke
my health today may not be my health in 4 years
warped solar
exactly dawg
distant spoke
so i may not be "fit to fly"
twilit forge
Do you have any current conditions?
warped solar
and that's part of my qualm---you don't know if you'll even want to fly still after 4 years of JHU
distant spoke
and i really want to fly fighters
twilit forge
It sounds like you want to go to JHU
finite tusk
what would u major in at usna or jhu
distant spoke
thats why i wanna use this 33 days
distant spoke
what would u major in at usna or jhu
usna aerospace, jhu materials science or mechanical
and yes ik engineering is hard
but im very solid in math and have taken an aerospace course at my school for 2 years
warped solar
@distant spoke btw you can still try for an OCS pilot slot after graduating
given your app is good enough
distant spoke
<@648364018234556426> btw you can still try for an OCS pilot slot after graduati...
i did not know that
wow
god bless this discord man 😭
soo many things and people that helped me
warped solar
most come from the academy or ROTC but there are still slots from OCS
see you're living the dream here
think of it that way
distant spoke
its not that the academy is hard
irdc abt it being hard
mentally
physically
im prepped
its just
warped solar
if you go to the academy you're gonna be doing what the navy wants you to do
all 4 years
distant spoke
jhu is not an opportunity everyone gets
warped solar
and that might include not getting pilot
and you have to be OK with it because it's the needs of the navy
once you collect the $200 from passing go you gotta play the game
warped solar
no problem dude
twilit forge
jhu is not an opportunity everyone gets
JHU and USNA are very good options, whatever the choice they'll both be good, it just lies for what you want
warped solar
im here to give you the best guidance i can for what you ultimately want
finite tusk
jhu is not an opportunity everyone gets
when do u hear back from usna
distant spoke
when do u hear back from usna
im basically already in
finite tusk
jerry he's got a conditional LOA
o
warped solar
considering everything medical is good
finite tusk
i didnt see that part
distant spoke
considering everything medical is good
yup
warped solar
personally i would go the JHU route but this is your decision to make based on what you want to do
congratulations on your work to get to this point
whatever route you choose you're prepared for
warped solar
keep me posted
distant spoke
ill prob make the final decision before jan 10th
warped solar
you got instagram?
distant spoke
yeah
finite tusk
skull
finite tusk
sent in DM
kk
exotic hatch
you wanna take the easy route
or the hard route
you wanna go to bed each night accomplishing more than your friends in a week in a day?
warped solar
it's not about that
what reason does he have to take the "hard route"
it gets him to the same spot
if you want "the hard route" then fuckin enlist lol
go to the marine corps
go into the navy with a SEAL contract, drop out, and be an undes and grind your way back up
that's the hard route
distant spoke
i understand where josh is coming from
but ill deliberate based on everything here
exotic hatch
lol feller i meant it as in
the seal motivational shit
the only easy day was yesterday
evasion go check out serviceacademyforums.com
warped solar
are you even branching SEAL/EOD 😭
i get the motivation but your application of it in this context is not it
twilit forge
Rahhh go Navy beat Army today