Princeton University (2024-2025)

[old turtle]

in the sense that instead of doing problem sets, you have 200+ pages of reading a week

[severe mantle]

orgo destroyed me and it only gets harder 💀

[ancient sky]

was grade deflation a problem when you went? i hear a lot about that being an issue?

[old turtle]

I was there when grade deflation policies were in force

[severe mantle]

why is grade deflation a thing

[old turtle]

because then A's don't mean anything

like at Harvard

[lofty aspen]

lmao

[severe mantle]

So is it literally just to give A's more meaning

[old turtle]

basically

but in practice, that means that all the A's end up being apportioned to the intro courses

[severe mantle]

Making life harder for the sake of making it hard 🫠

[serene tinsel]

gotta keep that US news ranking

[old turtle]

so it makes the intro courses harder and the seminar courses easier to get an A, which makes sense, because the intro courses have like.. 200+ kids, and the seminar courses are like 12

[severe mantle]

are most classes graded on a curve?

[old turtle]

many STEM courses are

[serene tinsel]

i thought curves didnt exist in college

[old turtle]

so you get a 48 on a physics midterm and it's an A

a friend of mine got a 50 on a midterm and lay on the floor of her dorm room crying

freshman year

[severe mantle]

Never understood the point of that
wouldn't it be more desirable to have kids that actually understand everything you teach even if you teach them less/slower

[old turtle]

she went to Berkley for a Ph.D. and has been working at Google for 10+ years

so yeah. curves

[old turtle]

the point is you're trying to challenge the smartest kids in the class and drag everyone else along

[white marten]

oh boy

college is gonna be fun

[old turtle]

how you feeling? Your comments have been healthier from what I've seen

[white marten]

Better

I've just kinda forgot about apps tbh

I still have some left to submit but I feel more laid back

[old turtle]

tried to warn/prepare you, but it's an experience

[white marten]

Yeah I think the only way to truly learn is to freak out and then get better again

I've done it, and almost all of the seniors here have gone trhough it at least once, likely a few times

[old turtle]

I like STG better than your old nickname

[white marten]

lol

[plush fossil]

wait no tho bc mostly people sit like low high 80s low 90s this is only helpful in grade 9 when we don't receive number grades lol

[old turtle]

I think they were talking about Princeton grade deflation policies, not how Princeton Admissions looks at hs grade deflation

[weak iron]

wait

guys

can i submit before the arts reference has been submitted

like should i click submit

even tho my teacher has yet to submit the letter

[ancient sky]

you can click submit since it's optional but if ur waiting on your teacher to add a reference, then i wouldnt

[frosty crescent]

not for chancing, but like essay tips are really good

[ancient sky]

ohh gotcha, i've only ever seen people use it for chancing and apparently it's really bad(?)

[old turtle]

any/all chancing is by nature, bad

[weak iron]

what chancing is "good" tho...

[frosty crescent]

i read the supplemental essay tips. good stuff

[weak iron]

exactly

[weak iron]

yes! like those essay reviews...what they did good and what they couldve improved

[old turtle]

I've thought about posting my high school resume here and being like, "yo, am I still cracked now?" but it's irrelevant

[white marten]

Cornell is almost ready...

[weak iron]

guys should i use up all 250 words in the personal statement

[ancient sky]

i hate those chancing people that charge you like $30 (like limmy and those other tiktok/instagram college advice people) so stupid

[white marten]

submission is brewing

[weak iron]

is it red flag if i just use 150 words... 😬

[weak iron]

haha yeah

[white marten]

I'll chance you for free! Just ask 😉

[old turtle]

depends on if you can uniquely and clearly answer the question in 150 words

[weak iron]

i think most people do that for fun or for coping

[white marten]

but its the same for everybody

and it's a range

[old turtle]

let's leave the number counting for the gpt bot or gen chat

[white marten]

LMFAO

[weak iron]

wait should i see this as another supplemental essay?

[white marten]

i didnt realize this wasn't genchat

[weak iron]

i kinda just went straight to the point

[severe mantle]

0%

[old turtle]

if you feel like it's sufficient, then do it

[old turtle]

which prompt?

[old turtle]

you should probably think about unique tie-ins with your department of interest

[plush fossil]

how long does it take to get your portal? i'm assuming the musci supp is on the portal right

[old turtle]

instead of, "I want to play in the orchestra"

[weak iron]

wdym

oh it took me like 1 day

check ur trash

[wraith heath]

heyy is this deadline extension real (bc if not i js wont apply but if it is i will)

[weak iron]

inbox

[wraith heath]

but ion trust it anyways

[weak iron]

all unis went to normal but princeton went to trash

for some reason

[old turtle]

a few people here have gotten the e-mail, so I believe it

[wraith heath]

okayy hmm

[old turtle]

and their e-mail matches what was stated on the reddit post

[wraith heath]

i've done every other app anyways doesnt hurt to apply i guess?!

[old turtle]

seems silly to lie about something like that

[wraith heath]

ok yea

[severe mantle]

Did they email admissions?

[severe mantle]

eliminate the competition 🫠

[wraith heath]

no yea cus they said there were extensions for other schools

umm i didnt see any proof help

for like columbia or smt

[old turtle]

Yes, they e-mailed admissions, and if it's corroborated across sources, I see no reason to doubt it

@wraith heath @severe mantle #1268244147962118265 message

[frosty crescent]

SUBMITTED PRINCETON.....LONGEST APPLICATION EVER

[wraith heath]

okayyy tysm

ngl not a big priority school so i'll js apply if time

[severe mantle]

You think they might penalize your app for submitting it late?

I'm almost done but the essays are kind of bad so I'd rather take time to make them better 🫠

[old turtle]

probably not. why would they?

[ancient sky]

i dont see why they would if they said theyre going to take it

[severe mantle]

I mean first impressions are everything right

not a good first impression to make being late

idk

[old turtle]

it's not late when they extend the deadline. Stop stressing and get back to work 😅

[copper edge]

i emailed them and they said their office was closed until the 2nd, how are these people getting emails?

[grim dock]

So we can submit the graded paper after January 1st??

[ancient sky]

yes you can check the box that says you want to submit it on the application portal

[old turtle]

notice that the message is from 12/30, a Thursday

[grim dock]

So it’s fake

[white marten]

Oh boy I hope my Princeton application isnt late!!! (i submitted it october 3rd)

[wraith heath]

well wouldnt they be closed until the 2nd and not respond until then

[old turtle]

when did you e-mail them?

[copper edge]

today

[old turtle]

they're definitely closed today.

[wraith heath]

werent most college offices closed for weeks tho..

[copper edge]

^

[wraith heath]

i dont see em taking off break to respond lmao

[plush fossil]

https://admission.princeton.edu/apply/first-year-application-dates-deadlines

i don't think so technically it's still due jan 1 but if you wanted to submit your app earlier and your paper later (still before jan 1) i think that's why they give the option idk fs tho

[clever perch]

i mean they have an option to submit the graded paper on their portal

which definitely comes after the 1st

which maybe means they're more lenient with it

[old turtle]

can you post the e-mail text for this?

like, a screenshot

[ancient sky]

somebody had a screenshot

[wraith heath]

why tf r they responding at like

12 am

i mean if theyre intl or smth

[old turtle]

I don't really know what to say here lol. For admissions offices to be completely closed when kids are stressing out the most seems nonsensical

[wraith heath]

and its also winter break......

[clever perch]

here

[grim dock]

I thought the office was closed???

[jade sage]

Should I abbreviate to Whig-Clio in my essay or write out the whole thing?

I’m assuming the AOs know what I’m talking about but should I play it safe

[wraith heath]

ngl many colleges sent me emails saying closed until break soo idk if that one is real

[ancient sky]

they posted on the princeton admissions instagram a few days ago

[wraith heath]

cus it seems v random

if they're obvs closed

[ancient sky]

they migthve been open idk

[old turtle]

abbreviate

[jade sage]

Thanks

[wraith heath]

idk if that makes sense to open js to answer random emails ab extensions

[old turtle]

nobody calls it the whole name

you're under-estimating how workaholicy people are

but I'm not typical

[green finch]

Idk I’d still submit today if I were you

[wraith heath]

yea i was gna apply if time for kicks

[green finch]

For all you know someone could’ve made this up to sabotage you

[wraith heath]

but i prolly wont

[wraith heath]

no yea do not trust a2c kids 😹

[old turtle]

how about this - e-mail princeton admissions, and if they reply it's jan 7, then apply. If not, relax until you hear a reply

[wraith heath]

they on break until after the supposed deadline tho

[old turtle]

yeah, so if they get back to you on jan 2, you have 6 days to work on it

if you care enough, apply today, otherwise I don't know what to tell you 😅

[wraith heath]

no yeah idgaf so imma js not unless its confirmed tmr or smth

[old turtle]

I personally believe the extension, but it's not my life decision to make

[old turtle]

I would e-mail Princeton admissions just in case though

[sudden sky]

Can you use chem lab reports for the graded paper

[wraith heath]

okk tysm

[old turtle]

probably not analytical writing

[frank pike]

princeton doesn't admit by major, right?

[old turtle]

nope

(afaik)

there's probably some preferences - after all, they do ask what majors/certificates you're interested in, but they don't admit you to a department

[frank pike]

I mean I'm going to be fr on my app anyways, since I wanna do engineering

so being fr is probably better than lying and having them be confused

[grim dock]

Who else is submitting an ap lit or lang essay

[frank pike]

I'm submitting a personal essay

[ancient sky]

im doing an ap lang essay

it's a synthesis so theyre going to be confused about the sources 😭

[frank pike]

"My source was that I had five minutes left to write the essay"

[grim dock]

Im submitting the ap lit essay , the one without any text

I forgot the name 😭

Lowkey wish I had some of my ap lang essays left over since I got a 5 on the exam, but all my timed writes were on paper so 😖

[ancient sky]

i'm super proud of myself for writing this one in only 40 minutes, also make sure u put if you had a time limit or something

mine was handwritten but i did this

[grim dock]

lord pls do not suprise me with any sudden requirements that i should have looked for a week ago 💀

[frank pike]

did you send ur sat score?

[grim dock]

yes

2 days ago

[frank pike]

good

I'm pretty sure the graded written paper and the sat scores are the only things that surprise people

outside of the common app + portfolios, which are due later

[grim dock]

yea

i have my portfolios ready tho

[frank pike]

same

[white marten]

Why would a school extend a deadline?

[grim dock]

more money

more applicants = more fees = more revenue and lower acceptance rate

[white marten]

Probably yeah

and a lot of them are gonna be rushed shotgunners so they're applications may or may not be as good, so it definitely could drive down acceptance rates a LOT

[grim dock]

yup

[frank pike]

this also isn't true, right?

[grim dock]

what isnt?

[frank pike]

the extended deadline

the jan 7 thing

[white marten]

There have been several A2C members who have received official admissions correspondence confirming it

[novel mason]

chat should I ask chatgpt to write my princeton essay then ask grammarly to write it in my writing style just to submit something, I DO NOT WANT TO WRITE THAT 500 word essay

wait deadline extended?

[frank pike]

why hasn't everyone gotten it?

[novel mason]

to jan 7? so I can write it later?

[plush fossil]

i think because people like emailed and asked it wasn't an official thing

[novel mason]

princeton due date is still today ?

[plush fossil]

^^

[jade sage]

Yea

[frank pike]

so is it jan 1 or 7?

[plush fossil]

like technically but also if you submit it late probably not the end of the world

[novel mason]

ok chat tell me an answer

[jade sage]

No

You should not

[plush fossil]

yea no

[severe mantle]

you should so I have less competition 😄

[plush fossil]

like don't waste your time or your money

[novel mason]

i dont think i was gonna get in anyways and that 500 word essay is a demon

well i would have applied if my AMC 12 score was better but it wasn't

[frank pike]

so is it jan 1 or 7?

[novel mason]

they said jan 1

[ancient sky]

if ur app isn't ready to be submitted, just take an extra day or two and i doubt it'll be to ur detriment. there's a guy in the harvard chat who said he submitted slightly late and now he goes there. it's ultimately up to you to decide if you want to believe it or not

[novel mason]

if princeton's date was the same as penn and stanford I would have wrote that 500 word monster of an essay

[tall raptor]

ap lang lmao

[tall raptor]

what does amc 12 have anything to do w it 😭

[novel mason]

if I got into aime

i probably

would have been able to get into princeton

[tall raptor]

💀 um

not sure thats how it works

[novel mason]

depending on how my other essays were

[tall raptor]

aime will prob barely help you 😭

[novel mason]

how?

[tall raptor]

plenty of ppll make aime

its not like usamo

[serene tinsel]

damn the sweats we got here

[novel mason]

my parents friends on sons and daughters made it in and they all did AIME

[tall raptor]

yeh but aime isnt what got them in

im sure they were cracked in other places

[novel mason]

Aime is top 2 k

only 2000 people get in each year

[serene tinsel]

r u convincing urself?

[tall raptor]

😭 i mean

i got aime and im p sure its useless

or like

not useless its on my award list but its not that helpful

[serene tinsel]

if you've already made up ur mind about it why ask other people

[novel mason]

i got like 11 right on my amc 12 this year and I guessed wrong

[tall raptor]

oh

[novel mason]

was close to getting in

[tall raptor]

i stopped amc after qual'ing 💀

[novel mason]

i didnt know about it till sophmore year

[tall raptor]

i did one more and my score dropped a ton 💀

[novel mason]

so I got cooked with school and everything

[heavy breach]

no way

its at least like 5-10k if not 15-20k per year

[novel mason]

ah crap

6,000 to 7,000 students qualify.

wtf someone told me the wrong metric

guess Im worse than 6 - 7 k people every year

[frank pike]

Is the deadline january 1st or 7th genuinely I've been getting completely different answers from people

I just want to know the actual answer

[novel mason]

are you sure?

any proof?

[heavy breach]

deadline is the 1st but they'll take applications until the 7th

so if ur late by a day or two thats calm

[novel mason]

are all ivys like that

if so im safe

to keep yapping

[old turtle]

I'm sure there's many reasons to extend the deadline. Anecdotally, there's a few people on this server who have applied late to schools and gotten in

[heavy breach]

just princeton for now. cornell and columbia also officially confirmed tho and harvard has taken "late" applications in the past

yeah

[novel mason]

when columbia extension and when cornell

[heavy breach]

idk there's a thread

[novel mason]

i can finish columbia and cornell if they extend

[heavy breach]

cornell til the 4th iirc

[novel mason]

ill just focus on yale and duke

[old turtle]

if Princeton wants to get the strongest set of applicants, then that's a good motive to extend the deadline

[heavy breach]

i dropped yale

[heavy breach]

realized their cs program wasnt allat

[novel mason]

applied yale because residential college

[serene tinsel]

me 2 ngl

[severe mantle]

what timezone are you in

[serene tinsel]

i was doing research then just gave up

[severe mantle]

3 30 am wtf

[novel mason]

and i can go NSF scholarship and transfer to MIT later

[serene tinsel]

r u him

[heavy breach]

dropped yale and caltech bc idk if id even want to go, and cornell is very expensive as a full-pay so

[heavy breach]

wha

[serene tinsel]

writing common app today is..

[novel mason]

NSF scholarship offered to undergrad and basically allows you to transfer to any school

for your graduate studies, I heard it from my research mentor

[old turtle]

I thought NSF was a grad thing, not an undergrad thing

[heavy breach]

the school still has to admit you

[novel mason]

[heavy breach]

mit admits like ~20/1000 transfers a year

dont bank on it

[serene tinsel]

[novel mason]

dunno I still have to apply to the scholarship senior junior year of college

[old turtle]

NSF offers undergrad REUs, they don't fund full years like they do for Grad students

[heavy breach]

grad admissions are completely different but for MIT msot of the masters' programs are restricted to existing MIT undergrads

[novel mason]

but they normally dont accept anyone if you dont go to like a top 50 college (also what my mentor says, he is NSF career recognized)

[heavy breach]

like their EECS MEng

if ur thinking of transfer shoot for schools like cornell, michigan, columbia, vandy, etc. they're all pretty good to transfers

[old turtle]

yeah, you apply for the NSF graduate fellowship

[novel mason]

I also think he was part of a team that won best paper nationally or internationally but idk. the paper I worked on isn't published yet so hopefully that doesn't affect my application chances

[novel mason]

maybe that was what he was talking about

[old turtle]

that's usually a per-conference thing

if it's CS/EE sort of thing

[novel mason]

maybe

[old turtle]

which field is your mentor?

[novel mason]

Machine learning and AI with its uses in the real world and some cyber security

[old turtle]

so basically hot field shit

[novel mason]

[grim dock]

currently at the stage where I thought an essay i cooked on turned out to be dogwater

[old turtle]

based on what feedback?

[grim dock]

my own

im my biggest hater

[old turtle]

rerack, go

[novel mason]

I worked on a paper about detection of how AI fails to recognize differences between two codes making it harder for it to make changes to it when the code has a bug

[old turtle]

once we get AI to test its own code, it'll work itself out

which is basically an extension of adversarial networks

[novel mason]

the paper focused on detection specifically on very similar code lines where the detectors had like around 50% error rate until it was trained on another metric

[old turtle]

I just imagine CS education just going downhill as a result of these

[novel mason]

its gonna go down hill not only because of that

h1-b visas gonna come steal my job for less, will be forced into research instead of a tech company

beginning to think man maybe I should go into applied math and slave away for wall street

[old turtle]

I'm going to say the same thing my wife says about this with respect to research: There are more problems than there are people to work on them

[novel mason]

research doesn't pay well thats my only issue

but I like doing it, its kinda of interesting and the collarborative environment is nice

[old turtle]

let's be realistic instead of delusional on research pay at FAANG

they come in at the same level as SWEs

[heavy breach]

uh

thats not really how it works lmao

[novel mason]

will be soon

[heavy breach]

i think you should probably stop browsing r/csMajors

that sub is beyond cooked

[novel mason]

• tech over sat anyways I know a girl who graduated from cmu who still cant find a job

[novel mason]

less like that but more like how silicon valley and twitter fired bunch of employees and most of those who stayed are h1-b visa havers

• elon saying he wants to triple h1-b visas

haven't been able to dive deeper into those because of college essays tho

[grim dock]

do ppl still do CS?

[gusty zephyr]

is the deadline today or is it the 7th?

[serene tinsel]

treat it as today

[gusty zephyr]

i havent started a single one

🙏

[serene tinsel]

💀

[clever perch]

bro boutta cook

[serene tinsel]

get cooked*

[clever perch]

in the past they've given out extensions tho

[serene tinsel]

nah jk gl

[heavy breach]

whered u alr get in

[gusty zephyr]

bot places

[heavy breach]

o

[gusty zephyr]

penn, tamu, utk

[heavy breach]

penn state?

[gusty zephyr]

ye

[heavy breach]

i got tamu thats it

[gusty zephyr]

LOL

[heavy breach]

💀

[gusty zephyr]

i say penn

[heavy breach]

lmao

ngl upenn is overrated

rancid vibes

[gusty zephyr]

lmfao

lwk you'd have to pay me tuition to go to philly 😭 💔

[heavy breach]

nah philly calm

its a lil sketchy in some parts

[old turtle]

dms

[heavy breach]

but other than that its a fun city

[old turtle]

Philly's a pretty cool city for the NE. There are better, there are worse

[gusty zephyr]

im from nyc so it just sounds like where i live but objectively less cool

[old turtle]

not wrong

[gusty zephyr]

you went to penn?

howd you like it

[old turtle]

worked at Penn for 7 years

[gusty zephyr]

sick

[heavy breach]

i feel like everyone should spend at least a year in a philly/dc rowhouse with like 8 friends in a band

[old turtle]

I liked the city. Then I moved to Boston, much better city

[gusty zephyr]

i loveee boston

[heavy breach]

been to boston once

[gusty zephyr]

dude the charles is actually blue

compared to the hudson yo LMAO

[heavy breach]

it was where my dad first came to the US actually

[old turtle]

Philadelphia is a nice city as well, I don't mind it. It's a bit less crazy than NYC so it's more my vibe

[heavy breach]

im from dallas 💔

[gusty zephyr]

my fav part abt boston is that its so easy to skip the fare

you dont even need to hop

[old turtle]

lol

[heavy breach]

this is why the MBTA is in such a hole 😭

[gusty zephyr]

cause the gates stay open for maddd long

IM SORRY okay i couldnt figure out how to pay 🙏

[old turtle]

especially in rush hour, they just don't bother

[gusty zephyr]

n i was in a rush

[old turtle]

they just open the gate and let people in

[heavy breach]

yh thats fair

[gusty zephyr]

cause they dont close on you

i think if it detects someone

itll stay open

[heavy breach]

but still

no north south rail link

[gusty zephyr]

accessibility fr

[old turtle]

the subways are packed in rush hour, especially red line

[heavy breach]

one of the lines is a literal 1930s trolley

[old turtle]

that's the green line

well, parts of it

[heavy breach]

green line iirc is 70s

im talking about mattapan

[old turtle]

commuter rail?

[heavy breach]

no the mattapan extension on the red line

[old turtle]

oh shit, yeah, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mattapan_Line

[heavy breach]

its kinda like the norristown line in philly

[old turtle]

I've never gone that far

what are you an urban transport hobbiest?

[heavy breach]

yeah

philly has the best commuter rail in the country for its size, ngl

they did the whole north-south link back in the seventies so they have through-running electric trains

while boston is still diesel and doesnt have through-running

[gusty zephyr]

nyc lwk sucks but i cant lie the transportation goes crazy

24/7 subway is underrated

[heavy breach]

nyc transportation is goated

[old turtle]

Boston's MBTA is just a mess, especially after one of the control rooms got wrecked by an accident

[heavy breach]

yeah

[old turtle]

effing replace the thing with a raspberry pi already

[heavy breach]

ngl dc metro is my favorite transit system in america but its lowkey only rly useful to suburban federal workers 💀

if ur commuting from like arlington

[old turtle]

it ran a lot better 20 years ago

now it's just always delayed

[heavy breach]

they brought back automated train operation on some lines

so the delays should go away

[old turtle]

oh nice

[heavy breach]

and they fixed most of the track fires

[old turtle]

I grew up in baltimore and spent summers in DC

[gusty zephyr]

baltimore is tuff

[old turtle]

lol, post whole bio in this channel....

[gusty zephyr]

glad u got out

actually if u spent summers in dc

[heavy breach]

its probably easier to get from pg/moco to arlington than within DC on the metro

[gusty zephyr]

then u were prolly fine

LOL

[old turtle]

yeah. Baltimore suburbs for real

[heavy breach]

its crazy knowing places like baltimore, st louis, and detroit used to be craaaazy rich back in the 20s

actually wait detroit was in the 50s i think

legit richest cities in the world iirc

[old turtle]

also WWII. Baltimore was a shipyard back then

helped churn out freedom ships

[heavy breach]

i think detroits been on a comeback lately

[old turtle]

er... what are they called

[heavy breach]

the burbs always stayed rich tho

[old turtle]

not freedom ships. the WWII atlantic convoy ships

[heavy breach]

o

[old turtle]

Liberty Ships

[ancient sky]

i live on the georgia-florida border so would it make sense if i called myself a quasi-floridian in one of my essayts

or is that stuipid

[grim dock]

not at all

i also used to live on the georgia SC border, and I can understand being influenced by both places

[cerulean marlin]

guys is there an option to submit research to princeton

cuz i saw there was like a place for an arts portfolio

but i didnt see anything about research

[median zealot]

no

[cerulean marlin]

ah okay thank u

[median zealot]

not to my knowledge

[mortal hornet]

does anyone know if princeton accepts graded papers submitted after the deadline? i need to get my paper through my counselor because i'm not allowed to see the grade and comments (school policy) and she's on holiday

[frosty crescent]

Yeah they do

Just submit when you get the applicant portal

[heavy breach]

yeah

[mortal hornet]

alr tyy

[fierce drift]

is anyone willing to look over my princeton 500 ? just like the general idea of it

[jade sage]

Should I submit my resume to Princeton?

[plush fossil]

wait is there a space for that

or are you thinking the additional file upload thing

[jade sage]

Yeah, that

Because I have work stuff on there that’s not on my app but it also repeats a lot of stuff from my app

So idk if I should or not

I think I’ll just send it, worst that happens is they don’t read it and at best it adds to my app

Applied! 🥳

[naive spindle]

My graded paper is in a lockdown browser, should i just copy and paste it into a google doc?

[remote cipher]

my princeton essay was about ribs

for what brings you joy

ribs 🔥

[tall raptor]

should i submit a rhetorical analysis ap lang or a analysis or a analysis of a columnist writer

i got a 90% for the rhetorical analysis and a 96% for the analysis of a columnist

[remote cipher]

communist

[subtle rivet]

GUYSSSS. It is presently 11 minutes after midnight and I submitted my princeton application by 12:00 of January 2nd. Will I be considered a late submit. Will by Chance drop????

[tall raptor]

no

ur fine

[subtle rivet]

Omg. FRRR???

I almost died

R u a 100% sure?

[naive spindle]

"Most colleges do adhere to the stated deadline and may not consider an application if it arrives even one minute late."

-collegevine

[subtle rivet]

Damnnn 😭
If I get a portal then does it mean I made it?

[remote cipher]

did you already submit it

[subtle rivet]

I submitted Jan 2nd 12:00

But I put the signature as January 1st

[naive spindle]

Earlier applications are encouraged; late applications are not accepted. Deadline dates shown are for 2024 and are subject to change up until September 1. All applications are due by 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time on the date of the deadline.

• on princeton's site for early applications. maybe its the same for rd and its only due at 11:59 EST

[subtle rivet]

Oh wow

I may be safr

[tall raptor]

scaring for no reason 😭

most colleges have a small grace period

[remote cipher]

hey guys

question

do i need to submit the actual grades and stuff for the graded apper

[naive spindle]

nvm this wouldnt apply. this on princeton's insta: Regular decision applications are due Jan. 1, 11:59 p.m. applicant's local time

[clever perch]

does pton take research supplements

[remote cipher]

so uhh

i am cooked

[serene tinsel]

im grindingn out the 500 one r/now

AAAAAAAAAAA

[remote cipher]

i havent written a single essay this year for english

and all my other courses only have short writing

so i am genuinely cooked 100%

i am burned and fried to a crisp at 729 degrees celsius

[serene tinsel]

i think i have a book analysis from last year idk if i have comments though

[remote cipher]

i have alot of good essays

just none with comments

[clear yoke]

good luck everyone

[naive spindle]

my graded paper is an ap lit timed write

should i include the AP grading rubric

thats what my teacher uses, but it is 3 pages long

[serene tinsel]

my ap lit stuff is trash

when i redid it it was on paper

👍

[green finch]

Wait gang

my ap lang paper

is 1.5 pages long

is that fine

it's 623 words

[ancient sky]

yes that is fine

[serene tinsel]

doesnt it say 1-2 pages

[ancient sky]

i submitted 5 pages but theyre handwritten

that's like 1-2 typed pages

[clever perch]

my friend submitted 10

they obv wouldnt read it all but length can be whatever i think

[green finch]

Alr should I submit the essay prompt along with it

[clever perch]

oh idk

might be good context though

[green finch]

Alr and how do I submit the grade

[serene tinsel]

ngl i am now realizing how sweaty a2c is

its even influencing me

[green finch]

I know it was a 6/6

But like

[serene tinsel]

no need to shotgun a bazillion ivys

[green finch]

How do I prove that☠️

My teacher graded it but he just put it in powerschool

[serene tinsel]

yo guys

[old turtle]

what.

[heavy breach]

wait im lowkey stressing 😭

is this consistent with the style of email

that pton admissions put out

[old turtle]

I asked the mod team, we aren't certain and there isn't historical precedent

[jade sage]

Bro imagine if someone made this and put it on Reddit to get rid of competition

[worn owl]

💀

[naive spindle]

i feel like thats more likely than pton extending their deadline with no announcement anywhere

[worn owl]

apparently several people got the email

according to the reddit megathread

[naive spindle]

ok then maybe they did extend...

idk why a school would only be telling ppl in emails and not announcing it 😭

[worn owl]

it feels like jan 7 is when the grace period ends maybe

[broken vortex]

Do ygs know if not submitting a graded paper right now for the application would hurt my chances for admission?

I submitted this AP Lit essay I really like back in october but my teacher still hasnt graded it yet

[ancient sky]

i think you're fine and you can submit it later on the applicatoin portal

but idk how long itll take your teacher to grade it

you should try to get that asap

[broken vortex]

The thing is, hypothetically if she grades it the DAY before decisions (VERY RARE), then it automatically means they never considered it ykwim

so idk when they'll see my application if I dont submit it 😦

[ancient sky]

uhh is there any way you can contact her and tell her you need it for college admissions

also taking 6 months to grade an essay is foul 😭

[broken vortex]

Definitely what I'm going to do, but this is out of my control

My 2nd option was my APUSH dbqs, but my teacher didnt post the assignments online

only physical copies I lost

[ancient sky]

if push comes to shove and you dont have the essay graded within a reasonable time frame, i would probably say to use something else

[broken vortex]

ahh I'll see

ty tho

[errant dawn]

wait how are we supposed to email our graded paper if we dont want to submit through common app (greater than file size limit)

[heavy breach]

dude 500 word is killing me

god

[ancient sky]

you dont email, upload to application portal

oh wait i misread that

you can compress the pdf if the file size is too big

[median zealot]

I think for mine I had to compress the file

[woeful trout]

how good does the graded paper have to be

[median zealot]

as long as it's still readable

[old turtle]

that's where I'm at, but without any hard evidence (ie. someone here showing me a personal e-mail from someone who's verified to be in admissions), I can't be sure. The name in the e-mail is someone who works for princeton by linked-in, but not listed in admissions

[median zealot]

it should reflect good academic writing but I don't think they're looking for anything too crazy

you should be a strong writer

[woeful trout]

my school has never had us write a 2-page paper

so i was wondering what to do in that situation ...

[median zealot]

what's the length of ur paper

longer?

[old turtle]

whatever you have that's as close to that as possible

[woeful trout]

4 pages minimum

[median zealot]

yeah that's chill

mine was like 10 lowkey

[woeful trout]

oh what

i thought you could submit max 2-pages

[median zealot]

idk I don't recommend it but it's only because the paper I wrote was like

very interdisciplinary

and related to my profile

[woeful trout]

can i submit 4 pages 😭

[remote cipher]

my dad after seeing the princeton application fee: "those greedy assholes"

[woeful trout]

technically i have a thesis prospectus that's only a page but that's because it's a pitch to my school's council so i can write my thesis

[old turtle]

how much is it?

[pliant flint]

so will princeton take apps after deadline today or nah

[old turtle]

is it in line with the other ivys?

[pliant flint]

what if that dude with the email just eliminating competition

[old turtle]

submit today to be safe

[old turtle]

I don't trust it

[median zealot]

ya ur fine

[median zealot]

it's like 80 dollars

They literally don't need that money lmao

[old turtle]

that's just to prevent people from wasting their time

[median zealot]

but it probably cuts down

the nonserious applicants yeah

[old turtle]

troll applications or you have to work for a waiver

I mean, even for interviews, if you think about the average $/hr for a Princetonian, you might be getting value for that 80$ 😅

[median zealot]

that's true

you do interviews right?

[old turtle]

yes

[median zealot]

that's cool, are you doing them for this cycle as well?

[woeful trout]

oh wait also, what if my academic papers are usually denser? i've only been allowed to write on classics

[remote cipher]

$70

[old turtle]

yes, already did 2 for early

[median zealot]

awesome

[remote cipher]

so i submitted it

and now

awaiting a rejection

[median zealot]

I'm guessing they tell you which applicants got in because I remember my interviewer sent me an email congratulating me

[old turtle]

as long as your safeties are in line, don't stress

[remote cipher]

man

even if i get in

i wont go

[median zealot]

damn

[remote cipher]

its as shrimple as that

[old turtle]

yes, we find out through the portal a day or 2 after they announce it

[remote cipher]

i dont give a shit

so the shit isnt given

[old turtle]

that is an attitude

[remote cipher]

its as simple as that

[wraith heath]

this is so real

ngl i dont trust the extension so i wont even apply

REJECTING princeton!

instead of the other way around

❤️‍🔥

[old turtle]

yeah, at this point, I don't have hard evidence that I trust

if you really care, e-mail admissions for confirmation, otherwise leave it be

[wraith heath]

Ok

[tawny depot]

Did they extend the deadline

Pls

[old turtle]

I don't trust the reddit post. either get your shit together in the next 4-8 hours or e-mail admissions about an extension

[pliant flint]

bro ong that email a setup

[wraith heath]

no right they were like yea hella colleges extended their deadlines

[tawny depot]

Yeah lowk

[wraith heath]

"also dont dm me for proof i have 200 dms"

[tawny depot]

LOL

[old turtle]

yeah, that's not proof

[tawny depot]

eliminating the comp fr

[wraith heath]

no fr 😭

crazy ahh

[old turtle]

and Barbara guzman isn't listed admissions for Princeton

[tawny depot]

oh.

[wraith heath]

CRAZYY

[old turtle]

it's a linkedin page, but that doens't require verification

[median zealot]

wait are people really forging these emails 😭

that's crazy work

[serene tinsel]

eliminating the comp

[median zealot]

fr

[old turtle]

@median zealot is there a Barbara Guzman in the directory?

[remote cipher]

wait theres an extension

[tawny depot]

on god

[wraith heath]

wtf is an assistant department manager

[median zealot]

ill check

[wraith heath]

doesnt sound like an AO

[green finch]

Same situation

[old turtle]

yeah, that's my point

[green finch]

I had a graded paper all ready to to

Go

And then I realized that there was no grade on it

[pliant flint]

what if u just make up the grade

[tawny depot]

yeah

[green finch]

Then I looked for old dbqs and realized my teacher took down the posts for grading it

[tawny depot]

give urself a flat 110

[old turtle]

least important thing, at this point, get as close as you can

[tawny depot]

break the scale

[green finch]

Should I just email them the paper anyways?

[tawny depot]

Do they care abt comments or the grade more

[pliant flint]

like a 1% chance they gonna contact ur school and check it

[old turtle]

can't hurt

[tawny depot]

or the work in general

[tender karma]

For the graded paper, if I were to pick a lang paper that I feel is my best work but has no grade, should I still submit it? Or should I pick one that has an actual grade?

[woeful trout]

wait does the apper have to have a grade??/

[tawny depot]

^^

[woeful trout]

mine are handwritten

[tawny depot]

I think so but don’t quote me

[woeful trout]

bc my school is no-tech

[old turtle]

they're guidelines, get as close as you can

[tawny depot]

Cuz graded writing assignment

Right

[median zealot]

she's an emergency coordinator for the admissions office

[tawny depot]

Oh ok

[median zealot]

https://emergency.princeton.edu/buildingdepartmental-emergency-coordinators

[tawny depot]

Oh

[wraith heath]

oh well it says admissions office but

emergency person answering?? emails

[tawny depot]

I’ve been checking my commonapp like 3 different times

[old turtle]

admissions isn't in west college anymore?

[tawny depot]

should I j submit

ughh

[wraith heath]

no yea

[old turtle]

330 alexander is in the middle of the boonies

[median zealot]

Nope

[green finch]

I just can’t believe this was my dream school and I just cooked myself

Lame ending

Not like I was getting in anyways but still

[old turtle]

they put it that far outside of main campus??!! wtf

[median zealot]

yeah the financial aid office is there too which is an absolute pain to get to

i've been there

I had my bike too and it was still annoying LOL

[old turtle]

that's not a short distance

@median zealot do you believe the extension? maybe we should ping mr smalls

[median zealot]

The building itself is quite nice though so they're probably not complaining about the new space

[median zealot]

idk I was an REA applicant so I never got any notifications about deadline extensions for RD

I can look into it

[old turtle]

much appreciated. the kids here are tweaking over it and there's no certainty. It's also last hours so.... there isn't likely a direct way to find out for sure

[median zealot]

My friend doesn't trust it either

i mean it's a possibility but he says that he has no recollection of this happening last yr

[naive spindle]

someone make an email thats kinda convincing but u could figure out its fake. then post that on the reddit saying u confirmed its extended

really fuck with people

[median zealot]

Idk I would've expected the university to have notified applications at this point if they were planning on hard pushing the deadline

[severe mantle]

I know another university that extends deadlines but they don't let it be known until several days after the deadline

then the common app says like you've been granted a deadline extension

[green finch]

Hey if I’m emailing my graded paper what email do I send it to🙏

Doesn’t say it on the website

[old turtle]

I have no idea... admissions?

[old turtle]

it's a dirty fucking trick if its not real. And they said 2 other people confirm it, but ... that just means you have 2 friends.

[median zealot]

I really hope that these ppl are saying it in good faith

like I don't think you should be in the position where you haven't submitted ur app already but if you get fucked over by some random people on reddit then YIKES

i think i submitted my application 4-5 days ahead of deadline in case something weird happened

[old turtle]

basically. which is why my advice is to either get your shit together, or e-mail admissions knowing that you might not be able to submit

[median zealot]

ya that's basically what my friend said too

[old turtle]

in which case, f reddit a2c

not the last time, but whatever

that's why I went digging for confirmation

[severe mantle]

Does Princeton normally hard cut you off at 12 and not allow people to submit apps?

[old turtle]

I think there are some folks here in other countries who have already reported submitting after the deadline

it's past midnight in europe already

[severe mantle]

Feel like if that were true there'd probs be a bunch of kids every year who missed the deadline by a couple minutes

[ancient sky]

no you can submit it after the deadline, common app lets you

or that's just my experience with georgia tech, idk if princeton can manually stop accepting exactly at 11:59

[severe mantle]

💀

"it's like when everyone fails a test"

[serene tinsel]

he thinks hes onto something (he isnt)

[old turtle]

that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard

especially for a binary outcome

mostly binary outcome

is this from Reddit?

[severe mantle]

kids who are in the future need to let us know 🙏

[severe mantle]

yeah

[ancient sky]

the original poster put that

that makes me very skeptical 💀

[old turtle]

sounds like the original poster is a moron

[wraith heath]

mf tryna get rid of competition oml

[old turtle]

has anyone e-mailed admissions?

for future reference?

[broken vortex]

Can i just submit the paper and give the grade later on..

[old turtle]

I should e-mail admissions. that would be hilarious

"hi, I'm an alum, I'm asking if there are extensions, please don't revoke my degree 😅 "

[median zealot]

That would be funny

[old turtle]

I might do it if I have time later tonight. nobody's going to answer until tomorrow anyway

[frail meadow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1hp74x9/college_application_extension_megapost/

[old turtle]

mr smalls will be like, "did you get an e-mail from an alum - ha! Gotem!"

[old turtle]

yeah, we've been discussing this - I think the consensus is that we don't trust it

at least I don't. But I'm not applying

[frail meadow]

is it a mod who posted it?

[heavy breach]

man im being so counterrpoductive now

[old turtle]

any reason to trust a mod?

[severe mantle]

I know some of the information on the post is true to a certain degree....
like extensions are a thing that are given

but idk about princeton specifically

also columbia/cornell is wrong

[old turtle]

so yeah, ef 'em

[frail meadow]

@magic swan got an email

[median zealot]

oh really?

[frail meadow]

why

[old turtle]

I saw the same screenshots

[severe mantle]

the date of the extension for columbia isnt confirmed
cornell is just wrong

[heavy breach]

💀

[median zealot]

damn

People might be tweaking then

[severe mantle]

Emory is right but that's obvious from the website

[median zealot]

at the end of the day if you don't submit ur application in time because you believed some random reddit post

then

uhhh

that's on you LOL

[ancient sky]

yeah i feel like if emory could communicate it, every other school could also confirm it or something

[severe mantle]

Well I'm gonna have to take the risk cause my computer died on me 30 min ago 💀

just gonna pray

[magic swan]

i didn't believe it either but i got the email like 2 hrs ago

[old turtle]

this is the last thing I'm going to say about this - one of the trademark princeton characteristics (in my mind), is the ability ot od paperwork. Do your fucking paperwork and move on

[severe mantle]

forward me it 💀

[heavy breach]

dm qhast the screenshot

[severe mantle]

just forward him it lowk

or someone

[median zealot]

can u send the ss

[heavy breach]

or yeah dm me 😭

[magic swan]

wait ill dm

[green finch]

Yeah lowkey that’s what I’m doing. I know the grade so I’m gonna say it I just have 0 proof for it

[wraith heath]

why would they be working on new year’s day

[magic swan]

their automated reply when i first send the email said they'll get back to me on 2nd jan

[serene tinsel]

gg

[severe mantle]

wait can u dm screenshot

[lofty aspen]

wait wait wait there's an extension

[wraith heath]

ngl the reddit post is so weird “also guys, you know if we all ask a specific college for an extension, they'll be forced to give it to us given the number of requests. it's like when everyone fails a test and a teacher is forced to curve”

that’s not gonna happen for most😭🙏

[lofty aspen]

that's kind of sketchy lol

[wraith heath]

right

[serene tinsel]

so keep on grinding!

[frail meadow]

BRO THAT'S SO SUS

[serene tinsel]

dont use it as an excuse to procrastinate!

[lofty aspen]

guess i need to actually finish my essays

[wraith heath]

no fr

[crimson jackal]

yay you guys got this

[frail meadow]

bro they need to give us a fake deadline

[lofty aspen]

im so getting in

[wraith heath]

idk i was a bit mixed until i read the end lmao

[lofty aspen]

see you all there 🥺

[frail meadow]

so i get the dopamine kick and lock in

[serene tinsel]

im in serious lack of dopamine

[tawny depot]

wait did u get it

wdym

[jade sage]

This is definitely not how it works lol

Also the admission Insta just posted “Hit submit by tonight!!” on their story

[frail meadow]

i'm gonna rizz them

if i send a video of me crying

will they give me points

[crimson jackal]

yes.

[frail meadow]

but like uncontrollably bawling

[tawdry bane]

ye

[frail meadow]

type shi

[green finch]

I’m just emailing my graded paper to the admissions office and telling them to contact my teacher(so cooked)

[jade sage]

If I applied will they look at my app

[crimson jackal]

like your application or like a phone app

[wraith heath]

HELPP

[jade sage]

Application

[wraith heath]

i feel bad for the kids who believe the extension but uhh trusting reddit kids is a choice

[crimson jackal]

i mean if you applied i hope so omg 😭

[median zealot]

Yeah

Uh

[jade sage]

lol

[median zealot]

No extensions guys

LOL

[jade sage]

I saw that too

They know

[wraith heath]

fake email is insane😭🙏🙏

bro put in all the work

[tired lake]

i don't think there's an extension i think they just have a grace period till jan 7 for supplementary stuff to come in

[jade sage]

Not for the actual app though

I wonder how many people that actually impacted though

[old turtle]

Send please

[serene tinsel]

so many got jebaited

[frail meadow]

isnt that two weeks?

instead of one week

for rec letters and stuff

[severe mantle]

can confirm its real

they sent email headers

[ancient sky]

sebd the pic here

[severe mantle]

I think they should send it lol its their email

but it said the same thing

[ancient sky]

gotcha

[severe mantle]

but they sent me the email headers and I confirmed the email like... exists

so

[wraith heath]

well can you send here

[magic swan]

hi can i j put the ss here

[wraith heath]

well why does insta say tonight then

[magic swan]

dk

but i think im just going to submit rn to be safe

[ionic siren]

do you guys really want to bet 4 years of your life on this random email

i wouldnt trust it even if its real

[old turtle]

3:41 timestamp. The other one was midnight

[severe mantle]

5:10 est

[old turtle]

This one isn't Barbara guzman

I'm leaning real, but I'd still submit tonight if possible

[ancient sky]

i just sent an email too, ill update tomorrow/whenever they respond

also just submitted my app to princeton yayy

[severe mantle]

The only question now is whether they'll penalize late apps

we shall see

well actually we won't see

but hopefully not

[green finch]

Alright gang I emailed them the graded paper

[old turtle]

Doubt it. They took your money 😅

Tomorrow is going to be admin hell for them

[green finch]

Hopefully I didn’t sell my dream school and they’ll at least take the paper and email my teacher for confirmation of the grade☠️

[severe mantle]

free money for them 💀

[green finch]

Imagine if I spent 70 dollars just to get cooked regardless

I want them to at least consider my app

[severe mantle]

wonder where tf the app money goes

[green finch]

The multibillion endowment

[serene tinsel]

https://princeton-staging.campusgroups.com/club_signup

is this legit for clubs

[lofty aspen]

a bunch of universities have a bit of leeway for late applications, yeah? this might just be Princeton's, with the "official" deadline being the 1st.

on another note

would someone mind looking over my why major essay for the A.B prompt real quick 🥺

[old turtle]

Negligible admin budget

[heavy breach]

will uploading a resume at all hurt me or wwill they just not really look at it

[old turtle]

Make them decide to look at it or not

[serene tinsel]

what do u say for the impact on princeton part of the 500 word if the club list is closed

[old turtle]

Be creative

[crimson jackal]

i found some clubs on the website for departments

[old turtle]

Or imagine your own club

[serene tinsel]

imagine my own club is cool

[jade sage]

You can look up “insert club Princeton” and it should come up

[fair marsh]

sure!

[lofty aspen]

thanks so much! can I DM you?

[fair marsh]

indeed

[heavy breach]

princeton doesnt take them

only arts supp

[green finch]

I don't really see the point tbh

Like save em some time

yeah that's why I submitted it on time anyways

just stop caring

like deadass it's not that deep

[grim dock]

Anyone willing to review my supps 😭

[green finch]

this is like a 97% rejection rate school

what do you think is gonna happen

[grim dock]

We pray

For acceptance

[green finch]

I think my chances for harvard are legit 1%

asian male in electrical engineering

[grim dock]

Not us suffering with Princeton and Harvard supps at the same time

😭

[ancient sky]

asian female in bio eng here 💀

[grim dock]

Asian male pre med 😔

Is she ok?

😭

[green finch]

damn bro I finished yesterday

[grim dock]

I have to admit that I haven’t looked at my common app essay since November 1st

[green finch]

I have like some legacy to columbia at least

[old turtle]

damn, you all asian here?

[green finch]

even it's very minor legacy

[green finch]

yeah but I'm the south kind not the east kind

it's not real legacy though

my grand uncle got his phd there

for electrical

[woeful trout]

bay area kind is crazy

[green finch]

but they asked for it so I put it

[woeful trout]

i have negative legacy

[ancient sky]

the only thing i have left to do is the future harvard thing 😭 cant figure out how to convey what i want in 150 words

[woeful trout]

gl my friend stopped applying bc he was competing w olympiad demons

[green finch]

yeah one of my friends lives in the bay area and he's like usamo medal usaco camp and shiee

shit

but like

yeah he's cracked

but he got deferred from harvard rea

cause his GPA is pretty bad

like 3.6-3.7 range

[grim dock]

SAME

[green finch]

there's like 5 of them in our whole class

chill

or maybe 10

idk

but like 5-20

and in terms of quals it's prolly like 70

not much to go around

[grim dock]

Im so glad my parents didn’t move to the Bay Area

[ancient sky]

wtf is usamo 😭

[grim dock]

I would have been cooked

[green finch]

most people who get into top colleges aren't like super cracked ECs wise from the guy I know at harvard(who was super cracked ECs wise)

just like near perfect SAT aime yada yada

[grim dock]

lol I didn’t even know what aime was till this year

[grim dock]

Math Olympiad

[ancient sky]

literally have no clue what you guys are talking about

oh

yeah we def dont do that here in south georgia 💀

[green finch]

I put environmental eng as my second choice though

and as my third choice I put meche

yeah but I want EE

but harvard has so few EE majors

[grim dock]

i cant even remember what majors i put

i keep changing them

[tender karma]

Would you guys recommend uploading my resume if it only provided more details on what I did for my ecs

Like the specific projects, activities, etc

[grim dock]

OH SHOOT

i forgot abt the resume

uh make sure that u can change it

[jade sage]

I did just to show work experiences, it can’t hurt

[grim dock]

bc some colleges dont allow u to change ur test status

OH

yea idk abt that

[tender karma]

Ok thanks

[crimson jackal]

the pton portal

yupsies

I have no idea... I would imagine there's a grace period?

[tender karma]

Wait is the graded paper due tonight or can I upload it to their portal after the deadline? Does it count as supplemental material?

[grim dock]

i think after