Princeton University (2024-2025)

[rancid lion]

the glopo boundaries are low tho

most ppl write like 50%

[weak iron]

💀

[rancid lion]

its a college level class in many ways

[weak iron]

I think P1 shows more critical thinking

cuz p2 u can prepare for

im speaking abt eng btw

[rancid lion]

P1 is source based so u dont know what ur gonna get

[weak iron]

no idea how glopo works

[rancid lion]

P2 is a set of open ended questions

which u can gamble on preparing a bit

[weak iron]

hmmm

[rancid lion]

the good thing with P1 is also showing how u use data to articulate arguements

[weak iron]

I think being able to write a good text abt unseen stuff on the spot shows quite a lot

[rancid lion]

vs P2 which is literally a yapping session

[weak iron]

exactly

and for eng at least, u can really prepare and memorize quotes and stuff

[rancid lion]

but will they penalize me if its in photo form cause my teacher didnt have it in her archive and she couldnt find it in time?

ofc the school can verify everything if needed

mb i should just email admissions but they might not respond due to holidays

[weak iron]

Im a hs senior as well so i wouldnt say im qualified to answer, but I with common sense in mind, I truly don't think theyll penalize u for that

unless the photo is very bad

[rancid lion]

its 4k quality lol

i can edit it with some software so it looks more neat

in regards to the frame

[weak iron]

i think that will work

I submitted completely unedited

[rancid lion]

i was gonna send my langlit HL essay but i couldnt get a grade on the final copy cause my teacher took maternity leave

so i have to go with this one

[weak iron]

teachers be wildin like that

[rancid lion]

the substitute one is VERY good tho

like retired uk army officer that went to oxford, travelled and lived in places like cuba, israel, iraq

[weak iron]

💀

thats wild backstory

[rancid lion]

yeah and he gives hella good comments but im not proud enough of my most recent papers to send them

especially since english was my only 6 this first term

[weak iron]

ugh same

[rancid lion]

i might even get a 5 this time cause i fucked up a p2

[weak iron]

but i think princeton is rly trying to see analytic writing in contrast to the essays

[rancid lion]

"expository writing" they say

they ask and they shall recieve

[weak iron]

😬

[clever perch]

soundtrack of my life

what the flip

[obsidian tulip]

fein!

[halcyon hare]

but what about the author of my comments? it won’t be shown then

is that okay orr

[lost briar]

wait for the graded paper thing

what if my teachers dont leave comments

[ancient sky]

you have to turn on "track changes" and itll show (i think)

[humble stream]

your paper itself is more important than the comments

i only had 1 comment which was like 5 words long

[hallow jay]

yea i had some random grammar stuff and then like a one line comment at the end

[tender karma]

Does Princeton require teacher comments, grade and rubrics for the graded paper?

Or is it just if you have them

[hallow jay]

i think there should probably be a grade

[tender karma]

Ok yeah I looked it up

Would it be bad if it’s a bad grade

[median zealot]

i mean ideally you shouldn't be submitting a paper that's like a D 💀

[tender karma]

They’re all F courtesy of AP Lang timed writing

My teacher hands most people 3 or 4s

Out of 6

[humble stream]

not sure that translates well to a letter grade

[tender karma]

They’re excluded since they’re practice

But we did get a grade just so we can see how we’re doing for the AP test

[humble stream]

i think my point is that a 3 or 4 out of six in the context of ap scoring isn’t really a bad grade

[tender karma]

Oh I thought you meant the class grade

So would it be fine I submit a paper that’s 3?

[humble stream]

oh my bad i just meant it’s not really fair to call it an f

[humble stream]

if it’s the strongest out of the options you have

[tender karma]

How bad would that be for me

I don’t really have a choice but just out of curiosity

[humble stream]

it depends more on the actual content of the paper itself and if it’s a well written academic argument

if it’s well written despite the fact that it got a 3/6 then you’re fine

if that makes sense

[tender karma]

Yeah I understand

Ok I’ll think about it, thanks 👍

[lost briar]

how do we go about putting the grade on the paper?

[humble stream]

i just made a page after my paper with the grade and teacher comments

i typed it up

[sweet bramble]

i sent my SAT scores to princeton before I submitted my app

is this okay

[median zealot]

yeah that's fine

[jade sage]

Honestly I just had my teacher put new comments and a new grade since I lost the original, I really don’t think they care as long as the grade is available

[green finch]

Should I submit the AP lang argument essay I got 100 on or the APUSH research paper I got a B+ on?

[jade sage]

Whichever better displays your writing skills

[green finch]

AP lang essay it is

[woeful loom]

Is it fine if the graded paper is four pages? The worst that happens is that they only read the first two right?

[jade sage]

Yeah they’ll probably just skip the others

[sweet bramble]

if ur class is archived on canvas u can go back in and screenshot it, that's what I did

[median zealot]

yeah that's fine

[lost briar]

we dont use canvas, we use schoology and i dont think that has an archive?

it says including senior year tho so i might just use one from this year

[neat kestrel]

should i just screenshot the comment and grade

[humble stream]

i believe schoology does if you go to my courses then archived

at least that’s what i can see on mine

[sweet bramble]

Yes

[sterile terrace]

yep

[misty bison]

Uh if i won a new award after Jan 1

how do i inform princeton

like theres no update application button here

[zealous forge]

can anyone check my Princeton essays before I submit please

[neat kestrel]

is a songtrack a song or does it have to be from a movie

why do i not know the definition of soundtrack

[misty bison]

I did something from a movie

like a theme song

[zealous forge]

I just did a song from an artist

[tropic surge]

how do ya send em in?

[clever perch]

what's a difference between minor and certificate programs

they feel like the same thing

except certificates are interdisciplinary

[median zealot]

they are essentially the same

princeton is moving from the certificate program to the minor

just make sure that the certificate actually still exists

[vestal pilot]

has anyone gotten their portal link? i submitted 2 days ago and it still hasnt arrived

😭

[worn owl]

also yall just confirming but the app is due at 11:59 on jan 1 in ur local timezone right

[ionic siren]

yep

if you can, submit a little earlier because so many people try to do it in the last hour

[worn owl]

yup tyty

[misty bison]

y'all if i won a new award after Jan 1
how do i inform princeton
like theres no update application button here

[grim dock]

Via Collegeboard

[wise cape]

yo

emailed Princeton abt extending the deadline, apparently its Jan 7th??? How does that work

Common App still shows Jan 1st, but I assume thats not updated?

[gilded bear]

Most colleges allow a grace period

[humble stream]

you can email

[misty bison]

awesome thanks !

[white marten]

Probably won’t be seeing you guys in the fall of 2025. Godspeed and god bless!

[wise cape]

No but with Princeton it's with the whole application

Grace is usually just additional materials, only LORs from what I understand

[lost briar]

wait the deadlines extended????

lets gooooo

[wise cape]

Not sure. They don't have it on website or anywhere else

How about other universities, I wonder if they share as well

[severe mantle]

is that fr

what did you ask them exactly

[timid island]

yeah they did extend it

there's apparently a reddit post about it too

[severe mantle]

I'm assuming this is an extension for everyone?

Did they state whether it won't disadvantage your app

I'm assuming a late app wouldn't look too good but if they don't care no reason to not take extra time

[subtle summit]

they usually have a grace period in general

[wise cape]

Can u share the link?

[timid island]

yeah

[heavy breach]

goddammit reading this is going to kill my motivation

[timid island]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1hp74x9/college_application_extension_megapost/

[heavy breach]

looks like i js gotta focus on harvard and cmu for now 😭

[tall raptor]

wait i officially sent my sat score but do i also have to do my a scores

this means self report is fine right

[humble stream]

yes self report ap is fine

[neat kestrel]

wait where do you self report aps on commonapp

or is it in portal

[dusk forge]

If I took courses at a community college through dual enrollment do I have to officially send the transcript over to Princeton? or is there a place on the portal where I can upload it?

[woeful loom]

I took dual enrollment too. For other schools, I had to send the official transcript. Not sure if Princeton takes unofficial transcript uploads.

[humble stream]

on commonapp i think it was under the tests taken part of your profile and then there should be a section for ap subject tests

[neat kestrel]

oh i missed this

[jade sage]

I’m still submitting on the first since that’s the deadline

And I want to be done with essays lol

[neat kestrel]

if i don't want to report my 3 should i still write it down to show that i took the class or will they figure that out through transcripts anyways

[ionic siren]

dont report a 2

[ionic siren]

is it in your transcript

its pretty reasonable to take an AP class without taking the test, if you don’t want to submit the score, don’t

[neat kestrel]

yea it is

[gaunt bay]

the paper I submitted was over this limit you're fine

[hoary pecan]

hello

should i send my whole research paper in the additional information box at princeton?

or just the first page / abstract

thank you

[worn owl]

i would just send the abstract

bc a) they don't ask for a research portfolio and b) the more time they spend reading your paper, the less time they spend on the rest of your application

[hoary pecan]

well im sure they wont read the whole paper as it has like 20 pages

i heard that if they really consider you, they might redirect the paper to a professor, who would review it

so maybe it is beneficial to send the whole thing?

[heavy breach]

do we have to email them to get extended deadline or do we automatically get it

[lofty aspen]

what did yall write about on your princeton essays? I've got ideas, but I'm having trouble putting it together into a cohesive narrative

i think it's because princeton's essays are somewhat different than what I've seen up until now.

[ionic siren]

princeton essays are fun you have lots of room to yap

do all the yapping first then string it together

[lofty aspen]

yeah I like how the word counts are relatively higher

[primal crest]

for the graded written paper, should i just submit the first 2 pages (6 pages total)?

[vestal pilot]

1x why major 1x experience 1x volunteering and a lot of fun answers

[heavy breach]

no, dont truncate your paper

[primal crest]

is it ok if there's no comments? i have a grade and blank rubric

[ionic siren]

it says "comments if any" im pretty sure

just yap you got this

[wheat bay]

wait guys did they lowkey fr extend the deadline? 😭

[hoary pecan]

guys does anybody else have any experience regarding if i should just put the abstract or the whole paper in supplementary materials please 😭 😭

[ionic siren]

no harm uploading the whole paper

[twin elm]

guys

what does the school report (final) mean in the portal

[ancient sky]

your counselor wll upload that when the school year ends

[ionic siren]

i assume that's your grades and all that

for end of year

[ancient sky]

i think it's like final grades and stuff

yep^^

[twin elm]

wait whats the difference between that and the final transcript that it says it wants

[ionic siren]

i assume one is end of semester and one is end of year do you have a screenshot

[lofty aspen]

oh hm

[lofty aspen]

wait what

[hoary pecan]

aight i hope its just not seen as spam or sum

[ionic siren]

they didn’t

[lofty aspen]

ah

rip

there goes my happiness

[shrewd heart]

does anyone have any proof for princetons extension

[worn owl]

?

jan 7 might just be when the grace period officially ends ngl

[ionic siren]

none

[vestal pilot]

i know someone said that you can submit your standardised testing scores until jan 7

[ionic siren]

that’s because its technically supplemental material i think

[heavy breach]

doesnt the email from above say that

[vestal pilot]

yeah thats all i heard

[lofty aspen]

huh

[ionic siren]

oh i haven’t gotten this email

[lofty aspen]

someone should email the admissions office again to check

[ancient sky]

they emailed princeton ao, princeton didnt send that out

[ionic siren]

oh

[heavy breach]

someone emailed an AO, also more people are corroborating on reddit so

[ionic siren]

i’m not 100% confident but schools send a report to colleges about your school environment

so it might be that

[wheat bay]

guys it's for real

i got the email

"Thank you for your email.

We will be accepting Regular Decision applications until 11:59pm on January 7th, EST. We recommend that you make every effort to complete and submit the application and Princeton-Specific Questions, along with the required school documents as soon as possible. Please note that the application platform will then be closed."

some people on reddit also got the same thing

[twin adder]

lol omg

not the rd applicants falling off

they were like yall we need more sweats these rd stats avgs not cutting it

[ancient sky]

hoestly if they allow more people to send apps, it means they can reject more people and lower their acceptance rate 💀

[twin adder]

they dont release acceptance rate

[ionic siren]

https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2023/03/princeton-accepts-no-students-to-the-class-of-2027

[twin adder]

i dont exist

[ionic siren]

facts

you're too small

[gusty lark]

Does some note like this at the end of my essay work to show that I cut content? Note: I cut content to fit within the page suggestion.

for the graded written paper ^^

[ionic siren]

dont cut it

[gusty lark]

its normally an 11 page paper 😭

[white marten]

Pray that the deadline extension is because they have less applicants

[clever perch]

doubt

[clever perch]

submit the whole 11 pages that's what my friend did

[white marten]

lol I know

I’m not getting in anyway

[split hawk]

Can i upload the graded paper and send it through commonapp and then send the rubric through the portal later? Because I don't have the rubric right now or any comments on it, but I have the letter grade

[gusty lark]

I would say just wait until you get the rubric and stuff because regardless everything is due the same date

so either just submit through common app and upload the whole graded paper through at once to the portal

because it says that you can only submit one file to them

[split hawk]

ok ty

[lost briar]

wait so is the deadline pushed back?

how long does it take to send scores/graded paper stuff?

[jade sage]

I think I’m gonna change my song choice last minute lol

I’ve found one that I think I can make better points with

[haughty wagon]

my short answers were so unserious

I wrote about pitbull

and my main line is

this is for everybody going thru tough times
believe me been there, done that

[neat kestrel]

how do i tell me parent that turning my 500 worder into a why major will not in fact explain how others will learn from me

[misty bison]

they asked for a grade

right?

I mean

on the portal

it gives you an option

to upload graded paper

so you do have some time

yeah you have plenty of time

[white marten]

You know what’s diabolical? Deferral

[misty bison]

I mean going off the email they said they close applications by the 7th

[misty bison]

Did you get defferred REA

[white marten]

Yeah

[misty bison]

this email

Dang i heard princeton deferred a lot of people this round

[white marten]

About 50% of server members here

[misty bison]

Got rejected rea stanford lol, apparently they defer only like 7%

[white marten]

So we guessed 40-60% overall

[white marten]

Ouch

[misty bison]

im intl needidng aid from india

Princeton need blind

[white marten]

Although Stanford deferral is essentially a waitlist so idk if you dodged a bullet there

[misty bison]

so i hope this works

[white marten]

Good luck

[tall raptor]

isnt there literally a why major/why us essay

[misty bison]

I think thats in the academic section right

[neat kestrel]

yes

there is

[tall raptor]

yeah then tell ur parent that colleges dont want you to put another why major in a diff essay 💀

[neat kestrel]

in his opinion its not a why major tho

but i legit

cannot think of any goddamn conclusion that would impact the princeton communtiy without saying some bs about technological advancements

and even then i doubt my peers would learn that from me

[old turtle]

Then talk about your constructive attitude and technological vision

[neat kestrel]

lowk not a bad idea thats p much what i came up with lemme add smth

[lost briar]

can i send the grade for my paper separately? or do i put them on the same pdf

[misty bison]

same pdf

thats what i did

[haughty wagon]

u can submit up to 3 files

And y downloads as on pdf in the app

[south hamlet]

is it alr if i just put smth like:

assignment details:
grade: B
Comments: n/a (couldn't get them)

Essay:
blahblahblah

[zealous forge]

yea same

i got no comments just a grade

[ionic siren]

it’s a 2nd personal statement

write whatever

[jade sage]

Do we need to talk about why the song connects directly to our life at this moment or can it be about what the song means to us right now?

Because I just talked about how the song inspires me but it’s not directly about my experiences rn

[sudden sky]

Is the song “from now on we are enemies” by Fall Out Boy appropriate

For Princeton’s song essay

[jade sage]

Just make sure the themes and lyrics are appropriate

[sudden sky]

They seem so to me but I want a third party opinion

[median zealot]

it can be whataver your heart desires

don't overthink it

[south hamlet]

i got an essay for the 500 worder thats like 350 words long... u think adding like an extra 50 words would be sufficient enough in length? once like the minimum for smth like this

[south hamlet]

😭 help

does princeton not already have a why major one

[ionic siren]

yep that's fine

[tropic surge]

hey so if I have a written paper, but the grade is not on the PDF, can I just like, self report the grade?

I have an english lit paper I wrote a while back, but the grade isnt like annotated onto the PDF, it's just a scan

I was given the grade in google classroom

[split hawk]

i think you should just attach an additional info doc and explain it. Or you can write that at the top of your graded paper

idk though don't quote me on that lol

[frosty crescent]

does 11 59 pm on jan 1 means one minute before jan 2 or one minute before jan 2

[zealous forge]

is this fine anyone?

[mild spire]

Should I link the 500 word essay to Princeton somehow?

[zealous forge]

Question for the graded paper, I have a 5 page reserach paper that isnt graded( I did research with a proffessor and made one but it wasnt graded or anything) Should I try and get that graded?

My CS/Physics Teacher could grade it

I also have a history paper from 10th grade graded but its 10th grade and Idk if I should send it

[vestal pilot]

get it graded yeah

[zealous forge]

alright should I try mailing the proffessor I worked with

hes kinda weird but it might work

[zealous forge]

I can also submit the paper after the deadline right

[ionic siren]

not necessary

[tropic surge]

according to the website it needs to be submitted before the deadline

[tropic surge]

hmm

[zealous forge]

wait fuck actually

[tropic surge]

yeah I think so

dw I got the same issue

[zealous forge]

To submit your graded written paper, choose one of the following options:

Option 1: Upload the graded written paper alongside your application materials when submitting the Common Application or QuestBridge Application.

Option 2: Mail, email or upload the graded written paper to your applicant portal.

you sure?

on the website

https://admission.princeton.edu/apply/graded-written-paper

we should be fine

[frosty crescent]

Till when can we mail

[zealous forge]

I cant sumbit a research paper that I did as an Ec right?

it has to be in school

[wise cape]

+1

is that jan 7th too? they ask it on the common app though

[frosty crescent]

The worst requirement ever

I've written soo nicely outside the school 💀

[vestal pilot]

theres a place for you to submit research papers

[zealous forge]

wait really where?

fuck bro I just submitted the application

[vestal pilot]

the applicant portal

[zealous forge]

oh thank god ill sumbit it there

thank you

[zealous forge]

fr bro

[vestal pilot]

@zealous forge

note that its onlt the ABSTRACT

dont do your full paper

😭

[zealous forge]

oh alright thanks

[hoary pecan]

who says?

[vestal pilot]

can you read

[hoary pecan]

oh sorry i see now

well rip

i submited in the additional information section on the common app

the full paper

because there were no details regarding in what format may i submit a research paper

i hope it s fine...

[vestal pilot]

they just wont read all of it

[hoary pecan]

most definitely

[hoary pecan]

i see that u are international. did u submit the english exam through its platform? or just self-reported?

[vestal pilot]

im from australia

we speak english

unfortunately

[worn owl]

happy new year lol

[vestal pilot]

haha thanks

[hoary pecan]

lmao

[worn owl]

did u watch the fireworks

[vestal pilot]

yas

im not in aus though rn

i watched it on youtube

still cool though

[worn owl]

ohh icic

[worn owl]

ikr

[hoary pecan]

@worn owl u from english-speaking country too or u know how to submit eng exam?

[worn owl]

ye im from australia too

[rancid lion]

i put down english as my native language cause i speak it at home even tho i dont live in the us or an english speaking country

and they didnt ask

[worn owl]

😭

[rancid lion]

for proficiency

[hoary pecan]

ah aight

[worn owl]

but from what i've seen on their websites, pretty sure it's similar to SAT

as in you send it directly from the testing website

[hoary pecan]

i cant find nun about it

just for the graduate school

[worn owl]

https://admission.princeton.edu/apply/international-students

[vestal pilot]

@worn owl TWO MUTUAL FRIENDS??

WAIT

wtf

[hoary pecan]

yuh but it says nothing about self-reporting vs. sending electronically

[worn owl]

LOL did u not realise earlier

phlooph and ivan lmfao

[vestal pilot]

no 😭

dms

[worn owl]

that's fine but start getting to the princeton part really soon

yay

[frosty crescent]

Can y'all give me Princeton specific stuff related to tech and neuroscience and aerospace

Not really my first choice so didn't research much 💀

Yeah...

Lemme go stalk some Princeton people

[worn owl]

try ask perplexity.ai and gpt lol

but fact check everything gpt tells you first

[frosty crescent]

Yeah... can't let a blunder happen again 💀

[rancid lion]

gpt is very accurate for some things

but then it makes up courses that dont exist lol

[tropic surge]

@frosty crescent https://www.coursicle.com/princeton/

these are some old princeton courses

obv check if they still exist but this is what I used

I used em for harvard too cuz harvard's are updated to spring 2025

[gaunt bay]

https://www.google.com

[vestal pilot]

absolutely crazy

[untold lodge]

can i submit my physics lab report for the princeon grded writing? im applying for engineering anyways and dont got any english papers

[gaunt bay]

i think you should submit a graded writing sample that is substantial

I submitted a psychology paper I wrote

[untold lodge]

sorry could you clarify what you mean by substantial

[tropic surge]

being so fr rn

would IELTS practices count as graded written papers

[gaunt bay]

like not a bunch of equations and data but like you showing that you can write

the princeton graded paper isn't complicated

[untold lodge]

I see

[tropic surge]

otherwise Im prolly gonna submit my english lit IGCSE essay

[untold lodge]

i got a TOK exhibition writing

its like about writing 3 objects to a question, but im not sure if its expository writing

[gaunt bay]

because Princeton has a writing seminar requirement, they want to make sure your writing ability is not that of a 5 year old

it's not a make or break

[untold lodge]

it doesnt have like a proper structure its just 3 big chunks

or should i submit my extended essay

[gaunt bay]

well then I guess you are answering your own question then. If it doesn't have a lot of writing, I wouldn't submit that for a writing supplement

[untold lodge]

cuz i did all my english papers at school with paper pencil starting from 10th grade and dont have them

[untold lodge]

it has a 1000 words

but just divided into 3 chunks for the 3 objects im talking about

shouldnt expository writings have a proper structure with intro

[heavy breach]

that counts as expository

[untold lodge]

ty

[winged grail]

The first verse

of my song that represents of the soundtrack of your life

is the narrator talking about leaving his wife and kids

its hungry heart by bruce springsteen

for columbia i put a weezer album cuz my regional adcom is MOST DEFINITELY a weezer fan

/s

[ancient sky]

imagine if they listened to the song you put while they review your app/read essays/everything 💀 that would be hilarious

[tacit ermine]

does anyone know if i could put my research paper in the princeton graded paper section I don't have anything else to put

the research was out of school so i don't have any grades or stuff

are u sure? ive nothing else rn 😭😭

they basically want to know my writing skills right? that paper defo shows that the best

man this unfair

im cooked

alright damn

wrote 3 supplements wasted 3 days now ive gotta scrap princeton off my list

damn

[cerulean marlin]

i think its moreso to assess ur writing skill in the clasroom

[tacit ermine]

its the same thing tho anyway no?

[tall raptor]

it j doesnt fit their requirements 😭

[queen wasp]

why did i get my portal

but i cant even see the application checklist

all i can see is upload more materials

[jade sage]

They add it a bit later

[ancient sky]

i just finished mine 😭 it took me a few days to brainstorm what i wanted to say

basically the prompt is just: What lessons have you learned in life? What will your classmates learn from you?

you can pretty much ignore the rest

[warm panther]

@gaunt bay when does princeton winter recess end?

[tender karma]

For the graded paper, if it has things like “Source A” should I change it to the actual source?

It was a synthesis essay from lang

[lost briar]

if ive uploaded my material but its hasnt been checked off yet, is that fine?

[ancient sky]

i just left source A instead of changing mine

i put the prompt and year at the top

didnt include sources bc that would make it like 15 pages 😭

[clever perch]

i think it may take a bit of time for the checkmarks to update

at least that's what my counselors always assure us

[fierce drift]

yea i think thats good since it shoiws how youve reflected on multiple parts of ur life

and how it fits in w who you are

[tender karma]

Ok thanks 👍

[fierce drift]

how late can the graded paper be

[ionic siren]

it should be submitted with the app no?

[ancient sky]

i think you can upload it to the portal after submittng the app since it gives you an option

[ionic siren]

if thats the case then yeah you have a couple days of leeway

[mild spindle]

will the princeton interview count towards the admission or no

or is it just like the sat

it will count towards admission if you choose to have one

but if you choose to not have one you wont be affected

[ionic siren]

your application is considered complete without an interview

you will not be negatively penalized for not interviewing

however the interview can serve as a positive

[mild spindle]

ohh alright

thanks

[ionic siren]

it can bring your application further

yes no problem

[mild spindle]

yea

[fierce drift]

i said learning to dj cause i like music

oo thats interesting

say youll make cornell tiktok edits

[woeful loom]

Just submitted!

[jade sage]

Congrats!

[shrewd heart]

is an argumentative essay on sources of misinformation fine for the paper req

it has like 4 pieces of evidence or whatever and its the only thing i can use

i dont have anything else

[scenic crow]

how r u guys submitting graded paper?

[ancient sky]

i just scanned my handwritten one using the notes app on my phone

the quality came out pretty good so i'd recommend doing that if you dont have a printer to scan things

[frosty crescent]

I am submitting a typed pdf cus my handwriting will give them a migraine

[stable valley]

what does princeton want for their graded written paper

what if i don't have a graded paper that's 100 💀

nah i'm cooked

wait no i can submit a graded piece from any year right

[mild spire]

I believe it's any year besides your freshman year

Not that you would want to submit a paper from then anyway

[stable valley]

nice

what is the min length of the paper

[mild spire]

2-3 pages

[stable valley]

oh

[mild spire]

I think?

Let me check

[stable valley]

it said 1-2 on their website

smth like that

[mild spire]

Yeah that's correct, my bad

[stable valley]

junior year i just had honors english, rn i have ap lit

would it be better if I submit a 100 paper from junior year or a B from ap lit (with a lot of comments)

[mild spire]

Probably the 100 but which one are you the most satisfied with?

[stable valley]

the nuance here is that the writing piece that got a B is the highest in the class

but i think i'll prob go with 100

just "feels" better

[mild spire]

Yeah do that then

Whichever you think adds more to your application

My problem is that all my papers that I am actually happy with are like 10+ pages long

[stable valley]

💀

[mild spire]

Yeah maybe I'm cooked

Might just submit one anyway and hope that they just skim it

Or read like 1 or 2 pages to get the general idea

I really like one that my professor asked to use as an example for future classes but it's like 15 pages

[plush fossil]

just submit it

you're not cooked

i have a friend who got in rea this year and his final document was 13 pages long

[mild spire]

Wait actually?

[plush fossil]

yup

[mild spire]

Let's go

Thanks

[plush fossil]

yw and good luck

[stable valley]

what happens if there is no teacher feedback

nvm

[mild spire]

Perhaps this is reassuring

[stable valley]

mmm

how do i include the "grade"

grade is on google classroom, graded piece is on google doc

[plush fossil]

i screenshotted mine and converted it into a pdf

[mild spire]

You can also add it to the top of the paper I think

[plush fossil]

also maybe you can provide a bit of context if you really do wanna submit this one

[stable valley]

do i send 2 files, one is a screenshot of the grade, one is the google doc?

[plush fossil]

that's what i did

[stable valley]

oh ic

[mild spire]

Yeah definitely state that your grade was the highest in the class for this assignment

[stable valley]

is the graded piece a huge part of the application 💀

[mild spire]

No, they are more concerned with the quality of your writing than your grade

[stable valley]

ic

[mild spire]

But like probably don't submit a C paper

Just pick whichever one is better to you

[stable valley]

i'll just submit this 86 paper

with no nuance

:/

it was our first literary analysis essay

[green finch]

gang I rush reported my scores 2 days ago and I can't even open up the collegeboard thing to see if it's been sent and I'm anxious af

am I cooked

[plush fossil]

wait is an 86 not an a for you

[stable valley]

💀 86 is an A for you????

[plush fossil]

yes 💀

[mild spire]

No, I'm pretty sure they have a week grace period for this kind of stuff

[stable valley]

💀 💀 💀

86 is B for us

[green finch]

idk if it's been sent already or not

it might've been

cause it's usually like 2 days to send

but idk

(when u rush)

[plush fossil]

what's the cut off for an a

[stable valley]

96

[plush fossil]

WHAT

[mild spire]

Can you contact them and ask?

[plush fossil]

pause

[stable valley]

💀

[mild spire]

I thought 94 was bad

[stable valley]

93-96*

97-100 is a+

[plush fossil]

ohhhh

i don't have a+ or a-

[stable valley]

ur grading scale is so lenient 😭

[plush fossil]

a is just 86-100

[stable valley]

💀 god damn

[green finch]

in my school 95+ is an A

[plush fossil]

we use words instead of numbers 😭

[stable valley]

😭

[plush fossil]

words can provide "more nuanced assessments of learning"

apparently

[stable valley]

if the graded piece grades doesn't much and is more about the quality, that means I can start writing my princeton supps!

💀

[plush fossil]

oh.

[green finch]

the thing is normally they have a "see where your scores have been sent!" type of thing but when I open it I just get a 404 error now💀 their website sucks

[stable valley]

21 hour countdown

[plush fossil]

good luck 💀

[stable valley]

💀

[green finch]

bro is cooked

[stable valley]

hopefully that graded paper does not cost me

[stable valley]

im like reusing

especially that 500 word one

[mild spire]

Bro I hate that one

[stable valley]

m&t's 650 word supp

i legit

use that supp for every single school

💀

[plush fossil]

the civic engagement one was not a friend

[stable valley]

oh nah

i dont even know what that meant

[mild spire]

idk I just wrote about something relating to volunteering

[plush fossil]

i just didn't like it because i basically answered the prompt in muy pesonal statement

[stable valley]

ah great 💀

[green finch]

yeah it was a pain in the ass

[stable valley]

that's something i never wrote b4

god dammit

can't reuse

[plush fossil]

i loved the more about yous though

[green finch]

it's only 250 words

so like

not that hard

[plush fossil]

like thankyou for asking about my music taste <333

[mild spire]

The 50 word ones were fun

[stable valley]

do u think it's worth my time to do princeton supps

[plush fossil]

what else do you have to do

[stable valley]

CMU, brown, stanford

[mild spire]

Are they all due Jan 1?

[stable valley]

even tho cmu is due 1/2, the supps are light

brown is 1/3, stanford is 1/5

[plush fossil]

i found princeton a lot harder than stanford, and i earlied stanford so i was writing from scratch for that. brown was relatively easy for me took me about 2 hours at 3am, no idea about cmu

[mild spire]

Do Princeton since it's due first

[stable valley]

only thing hard about cmu is it's why major and why school supp together

[plush fossil]

ohh like cornell

[stable valley]

i could sacrifice princeton to bolster cmu brown stanford

LOL

[plush fossil]

i say lowkey sacrifice

[stable valley]

cuz lowkey i did not know there is a graded paper

till i open this chat

so hmmm

[mild spire]

Suppose you could go anywhere, would you go to any of these schools over Princeton? If so, it may be worth sacrificing

[stable valley]

oh def

princeton is like an addition 😭 (shotgunning ykwim)

[mild spire]

Kinda a hard choice since it's due first

[stable valley]

yea

just thinking what's the best use of my time

i know i can get CMU done relatively quickly (2 hrs total)

[mild spire]

You can maybe get a decent essay for the two 250 word prompts (the 50 word ones are lowkey chill so don't worry too much about those)

Do you have the rest of your application filled out?

[stable valley]

what's that

[mild spire]

All the information in common app

Like you can just write your essays and hit submit

[stable valley]

💀

[plush fossil]

uh oh...

[mild spire]

Please tell me

[stable valley]

i did a general quickie for activity list

[mild spire]

Ok thank goodness

[stable valley]

just need like

an hr or 2 to perfect every single word

[mild spire]

Well you have to do that for the rest of your applications anyway, so maybe start there?

[stable valley]

u right

[ashen burrow]

I've used a past board exam that I did as practice as my grading paper. I've attached the full grading rubric and marking scheme to the submission as well. Should I attach a document showing the marks required for an 'A' on the paper that year as well?

[green finch]

Wait gang

collegeboard is closed from dec 25 to jan 1st

Oh hell nah

💀

[mild spire]

Check on Jan 2nd and see if they sent your stuff, other than that I'm not sure what you can do

[stable valley]

wait what

[green finch]

ah wait

that doesn't apply to test scores

nvm

[ionic siren]

THE BIG DAY

[stable valley]

🗣️ 🔥

[mild spire]

GAAAH IT'S UPON US

[frosty crescent]

Shout out to my econ teacher for grading my paper on new year🫡

[tender karma]

Should I submit a paper with a grade of 3/6 on the AP scale

[frosty crescent]

The paper is more important for the quality and not the actual grade on it

[ionic siren]

if it’s 3/6 quality then probably not. if it’s 5-6/6 quality but the grade is low for whatever reason that’s fine

[frosty crescent]

i think my teacher gave me a b+ only cus i made her grade it on new year

[fast urchin]

i kinda forgor to send in sat for princeton, is it cool if i just send it now or should i email them

[tender karma]

Idk it’s quality though, I thought I’d at least get a 4

Hm would you mind giving it a quick skim? It’s a 1.5 page synthesis paper

[tacit ermine]

wdym

princeton does not self report scores?

wtf

why did i not know that before writing all of these 6 supplements

[ionic siren]

send it as soon as you can

[ionic siren]

yeah it’s official send

[tacit ermine]

guys what do i do now

[tacit ermine]

college board is closed for holidays i think

im cooked

[ionic siren]

send it when you can

and email if you want

pretty sure most schools accept supp materials past deadline

[tacit ermine]

i get an automated reply saying princeton admissions office is closed for holidays

[tacit ermine]

i dont think the SAT is considered a supp or is it

[ionic siren]

well just submit it when you can

there’s nothing you can do about it now anyways

[tacit ermine]

well i mean yeah thats what i can do what option do i have 😦

[ionic siren]

sorry if i’m not being very comforting lmao

but you should be totally fine

just send it in after new years

it’s not like they’re reading on jan 2

[tacit ermine]

nah ure good im j stressed abt this princeton app bcs

until last night i did not know abt the graded paper 😭

i just wrote supplements for princeton without researching anything about the requirements

im so dumb

[ionic siren]

lmaooo yeah princeton has a lot of curveballs

[tacit ermine]

IKR all of my other apps were so straightforward

[ionic siren]

half convinced they do it to weed out the shotgunners

[tacit ermine]

well they aint succesful since im still applying

also do you in any way know if i could submit a research paper i wrote instead of the graded paper?

ive no graded paper right now

[ionic siren]

https://admission.princeton.edu/apply/graded-written-paper

english, social science or lit class

expository writing

read the full req i’m not sure

[tacit ermine]

yeah i read it but someone mailed them on reddit last year

u think this means i can submit the paper since there is nothing else I can do right?

or should i just not apply to princeton at all lmao

[ionic siren]

no point not applying

except for app cost

and score sending cost

but like you wrote everything already

might as well

[tacit ermine]

my app fees is waived and the sat score is just 10$ i think not sure tho

[ionic siren]

great then do it

[tacit ermine]

have u applied already?

or wait

are u already in

[ionic siren]

no haha i applied

[tacit ermine]

ohh i saw the '29 in ur name and thought u got in REA or sm 😭

[ionic siren]

nah 😭 i’m still in the process with you

definitely apply though there’s no downside

[tacit ermine]

yeah i will just idk motivations gone down the sink yk all this writing for supps and maybe i get rejected because i didn't follow the proper graded paper procedure

anyways we do what we have to do

imma go work on these harvard supps

[ionic siren]

goodluck!!

[worn owl]

just submitted prince yay

do u guys know if you can upload additional info to the portal? I ran out of time to add it to my commonapp

[tacit ermine]

you're just like me but 12 hrs ahead

[worn owl]

‼️

southern hemisphere time zones 🙅🙅

[frosty crescent]

submit it, if they have any issues they'll contact you

[gaunt bay]

everything starts up again on 27th

[tacit ermine]

yeah i will thanks for the help

[tawny depot]

Did they extend the deadline

[frosty crescent]

Please tell me they did my app is NOT ready

[serene tinsel]

dont depend on it

[frosty crescent]

Yeah

[tawny depot]

Pls tell me they did

Some people on Reddit said they did

But they haven’t updated the commonapp deadline yet

[ancient sky]

because it's a grace period, not a formal extension

if ur app isnt ready, then it's ultimately up to you

[tawny depot]

Isn’t grace period only for recs tho

[ancient sky]

since princeton admissions is receiving so many documents in the first few days of January, they give this grace period so that they can finish getting all of their stuff together in the mean time.

[tawny depot]

and teacher stuff

[serene tinsel]

tbh its our fault for procrastinating

[tawny depot]

Ah ok

I hate the 500 word essay with my soul bruh

[ancient sky]

yeah, they're not going to go out of their way and tell everybody that they extended the deadline, but if you do send it a little late, they won't care that much

[frosty crescent]

Oh yeah absolutely 💀
Totally could've finished it weeks back

[frosty crescent]

I knowwww right, wasn't the common app essay enough how much yapping cam they read 💀

[tawny depot]

haha worst case scenario I’ll try to change the deadline with vpn 💀💀

[serene tinsel]

im just shotgunning it last second for shits and giggles

[tawny depot]

No fr

[serene tinsel]

otherwise id be writing smt else r/now

[tawny depot]

I had to change mine bc they had a service one

I only have Harvard and yale left tho thank god

[ancient sky]

here's the email btw

[serene tinsel]

i just need to paste in my community one for 500 and yap i up

[tawny depot]

Thanks man

[tawny depot]

I had to do that for the service one broo

[serene tinsel]

maybe for every day late they move u down the pile a lil more

[tawny depot]

Otherwise id be so free

[serene tinsel]

so ur actually cooked

[tawny depot]

oh

don’t scare me

[serene tinsel]

and they r like gaslighting people idk

[frosty crescent]

Literally so much of my Princeton application is the same cus I ran out of content to write

[severe mantle]

How do we know this is real and not some dude trolling and fucking everyone over tho

[tawny depot]

I didn’t know they required official score reports

45 dollars down the drain

[severe mantle]

Who's the source 💀

[serene tinsel]

rush send it i think theres time

[tawny depot]

Yeah ngl what if they inspect edited

[tawny depot]

did that at 3am

[serene tinsel]

also for anyone that did the A.B 250 word response how many princeton classes/people/programs did yall point out

[tawny depot]

never again

I did like

[frosty crescent]

There's no way I'm giving the application fee, not after they made me yap like 1500 words

[serene tinsel]

i am running out of room

[tawny depot]

5 I think

[serene tinsel]

WTF

[tawny depot]

for real

[serene tinsel]

one sentence per?!

[tawny depot]

yes

100 word anecdote about why im interested

150 words on how Princeton will allow me to achieve my dreams

[serene tinsel]

wuts ur intended major

if u know yet

[tawny depot]

Anthropology

Wbu

[serene tinsel]

CS 💀

[frosty crescent]

Like....for bsc, they asked why do you want to study engeneering at Princeton, and then a completely seperate question says why do you want to attend Princeton engeneering school THEY'RE THE SAME QUESTIONS

[serene tinsel]

d1 mcdonalds worker

[tawny depot]

oh good luck man

CS is rough

[tawny depot]

Oh what

[serene tinsel]

i am thinking about writing 2 things

jus trying to fit in

[tawny depot]

AB only had one question I think

I mentioned 1 class 1 program 1 club and 1 volunteering thing

So 4

Oop

[frosty crescent]

I'm running out of cs content cus all my additional courses were cs50 harvard ones 💀

[tawny depot]

Yapping it up might be the Strat

[serene tinsel]

alize thats like a sentence per right

[tawny depot]

Yeah around 150 words

[serene tinsel]

@.@

[tawny depot]

Unfort

[serene tinsel]

dont they not want u to just namedrop

u gotta explain how u integrate into the program n shi

[tawny depot]

yes

[serene tinsel]

how do u do that in 1 sentence

[tawny depot]

I spent the former 100 words basically offering context

[frosty crescent]

I've written a ton of essays today I'm tired now...

[tawny depot]

on god

[serene tinsel]

i have 136 word context and 1 program is 71 words 💀

[tawny depot]

bro has grand plans

my structure is usually

[serene tinsel]

ok my structure is anecdote -> why i actually like cs -> program 1

[tawny depot]

“Xyz class interests me based on abc research which I’ll continue by researching with cdf professor”

[serene tinsel]

i need to fit in program 2 somehow

[tawny depot]

oh

good luck man

[serene tinsel]

tyty

[frosty crescent]

what are yalls songs for that one question

[frosty crescent]

i just realized that was Columbia, nvm💀

[serene tinsel]

yo i just cooked up a fire sentence

[frosty crescent]

lesgoo

[serene tinsel]

still need to cut words

[subtle rivet]

Heyy guys!!!
Princeton doesn't superscore across paper and digital SAT, right?
This is my score history below. What do you suggest I do. Which scores do you think I should submit. Will submitting the 1380 show I was good in math early and eventually improved in English? Or just cause harm?

December 2022 (Paper) : 800 Math, 580 R&W (1380)
August 2024 (Digital) : 790 Math, 720 R&W (1510)
October 2024 (Digital): 750 Math, 750 R&W (1500)

[serene tinsel]

i think u just submit highest score in general

a 10 point decrease isnt huge it isnt MIT

[subtle rivet]

Oh so just the 1510 and 1500

[subtle rivet]

Righttt, thanks

[frosty crescent]

god knows why im applying there

[ancient sky]

they do score choice im pre sure so they combine two tests sections

they dont do that for the paper sat though

[serene tinsel]

MIT is the most cooked esp if ur CS i ain even trying

[rancid lion]

any chance for government at mit?

[subtle rivet]

Alright thanks

[frosty crescent]

i cant think of a song and its troubling me

[subtle rivet]

I think you can still submit it but maybe explain in additional info section and paste a link to the video timestamped

I know someone that did but got waitlisted last yr

[rancid lion]

write and produce ur own song in one day

upload video and make a transcript

there are several ai apps for that

and submit paper & video transcript

[subtle rivet]

If you have spotify then check your spotify wrapped. I think it even tells u ur mood per month

Lol aiit

[frosty crescent]

there is nothing appropriate on there

[subtle rivet]

I know someone that wrote on an ariana grande song with swears.
It's more about what it means to you than the acc song's meaning

[zealous forge]

Wait was that paper for school? The research paper

[tawny depot]

Agree

[rancid lion]

feedback was on the paper

so it was in the photo of the paper

oh

ok

merge into one pdf

https://www.ilovepdf.com/merge_pdf

[weak iron]

guys for the

do i go straight to the point

or should it be good writing

[lone dove]

NOOOOOO

this is the only supplement that has writing istg

[weak iron]

I KNOW...

[frosty crescent]

I did creative writing and....THE WHOLE SUPPLIMENT IS ABOUT WRITING

[weak iron]

😬

[lofty aspen]

does anyone know how the south asian studies program at Princeton is?

wait, I'm confused

[green finch]

Gang I'm finished

[lofty aspen]

for those going into CS, are yall applying as BSE or AB?

[green finch]

gonna submit in like an hour

[jade sage]

Bro I’m worried that my 500 essay is so cheesy

[green finch]

+1,000,000 aura

[jade sage]

I talk about making new friends and friendship experiences impacting me but I feel like that’s just so basic

And idk what else to talk about

[weak iron]

💀

[jade sage]

But idk maybe we’re chilling

[weak iron]

brother r u deciding that now

[lofty aspen]

sure, lol

[weak iron]

isnt there a 250 words essat

[lofty aspen]

I know I want to do CS, I'm not sure why I'd pick BSE over AB, vice versa.

I'm done with my essays man

[weak iron]

abt either of them

?

how can u write abt "why is liberal arts best for u" prompt without even deciding to do it

[lofty aspen]

I wrote the essay for the BSE propmt, lol

[weak iron]

💀

[lofty aspen]

now im not sure whether or not I want to do BSE or AB

BSE has a general engineering curriculum, it seems.

[weak iron]

hmm

[lofty aspen]

I don't really want that 🥴

[weak iron]

i think the deal breaker is whether or not u wanna take language classes and literature classes

[lofty aspen]

but my academic interest is CS, so that wouldn't fir in the AB essay.

I do want to take language and literature classes

that's part of why I'm applying for princeton

[weak iron]

then u shouldve taken ab what

[lofty aspen]

I don't want an overly STEM focused CS education

[ancient sky]

you can make CS with AB. you should research the differences btwn AB and BSE CS

[lofty aspen]

right, but can I write about CS in the liberal arts prompt?

[weak iron]

yes

[lofty aspen]

hmm

alright

[weak iron]

but also other things too

[ancient sky]

yes, they wouldnt offer AB CS if it didnt work

[lofty aspen]

if that's the case I can mostly just copy over my essay

[weak iron]

💀

u should prob talk abt some of the special things abt AB tho

[lofty aspen]

yeah, I'll do that

[ancient sky]

https://www.collegevine.com/faq/21565/computer-science-should-i-go-for-ab-or-bse-degree#:~:text=The AB degree provides more,knowledge and hands-on applications.

[weak iron]

CollegeVine lowkey the goat

[lofty aspen]

so, I don't need to write my essay about the humanities, social sciences, and natural sciences?

and I can just write about CS?

[ancient sky]

isnt it the really bad chancing website 😭

[lofty aspen]

oh actually, I have the perfect idea for this

ok this is great

[old turtle]

<12 hours left to the deadline? Or is everyone taking the week?

[lofty aspen]

im so locked

huh?

[ancient sky]

im submitting today

[weak iron]

no but for essay reviews

[weak iron]

submitted already

[old turtle]

did you find a better essay topic?

[severe mantle]

employers dont give a shit btw

choose based on what you want to learn
ab bse no one cares

[ancient sky]

yes 100%. i'm glad you made me think it over hahaha

[lofty aspen]

i mean like, you're already at princeton anyways, so even if there was a difference, it's just diminishing returns at that point

[serene tinsel]

AB - i dont rly know what "engineering" experiences i have and also i don rly wanna do chem n stuff

[old turtle]

really glad to hear. I figured you had enough time to change directions

[lofty aspen]

right yeah, it's the general engineering pre reqs that put me off

and the lack of the senior thesis

[serene tinsel]

i think creative writing is pretty fun

[old turtle]

AB/BSE for CS is mostly irrelevant. Just determines your courseload and what your gen ed leanings are

[serene tinsel]

soo

[severe mantle]

Name actually matters a bit less in cs than you think
its not like finance where you walk in and mention you went to an ivy and they start sucking you off

[lofty aspen]

sure, yeah, I'm aware

I've seen plenty of people get good jobs and internships at our state commuter school in CS

[old turtle]

Yeah, for SWE, it depends on what your external projects are like, for research, it depends on the research you do

[lofty aspen]

I'd like to minor in south asian studies, A.B would probably be better for any overlapping requirements or whatever

[severe mantle]

lowk I feel like the week extension thing is a troll

I guess we'll see 💀

[lofty aspen]

surely there isn't an extension

[old turtle]

like, an AI/ML research group isn't going to hire a theoretical CS math person, it's just not the right fit

[lofty aspen]

I wouldn't trust it unless the uni itself sends out some sort of official report

[ancient sky]

i mean, most colleges take slightly late applications anyways tho 😭 i submitted my georgia tech application 5 days late and got in

[lofty aspen]

I'm more theoretical 😭

[old turtle]

Early?

[severe mantle]

are you in state?

[ancient sky]

yup, in-state

& early

[old turtle]

so find a more theoretical group to join, that was just an example

[lofty aspen]

right, yeah.

[severe mantle]

I feel like ivies can kinda tell you to fuck yourself though

yk

or most top schools anyways

[old turtle]

congrats, lets see if you can do better 🔥

[severe mantle]

I wonder when georgia tech ea2 comes out 🙏

[serene tinsel]

jan smt (im cooked)

[ancient sky]

the val-sal thing made it my safety bc guaranteed admission. hoping i can get into princeton!!

[severe mantle]

I should've applied for something less comp than cs 💀

[lofty aspen]

will someone read over my essay once i've revised everything 🥺

[ancient sky]

probably 3rd or 4th week of january based on previous years

[lofty aspen]

it shouldn't really matter at princeton

[serene tinsel]

https://tenor.com/flJJPBnGvlI.gif

[old turtle]

there's always ways to distinguish yourself later on. College isn't the end all/be all

[severe mantle]

meant at georgia tech

[lofty aspen]

ah

[severe mantle]

I was thinking about applying chem but chem is hard

[lofty aspen]

yeah I thought about doing that at some schools, but I really just wouldn't want to go if I'm not studying CS.

[old turtle]

every major at princeton is "hard"

just some are less rigorous than others

[lofty aspen]

like, physics is my backup major at the schools that offer it, but I'd rather take CS at a state school over physics at a much better school where I didn't get in for CS.

[severe mantle]

cs is significantly easier to me than chem sooo