Princeton University (2024-2025)

[twin adder]

harv stanf and yale are like

what the fuck is social studies!

harv majors are so fake

my friend is majoring in queer feminist art expression

which like

awesome!

but also

what

LMAO ORFE

NOT THIS

orfe kids are hilarious

its the quant major

[past venture]

lowkey might end up an anthro major or some shit tho

[twin adder]

spia and orfe arent very inspiring

theyre the majors that the evil people do

who end up in the state department or wall street

our rhodes scholars are always like history or politics or something

wolf of wall street commonapp

"at age 12, i watched jordan belfort conquer the formidable shadows of new york's financial district. his effervescent entrepreneurial grit and machiavellian thirst for profit reinvigorated my youth's passion for the capitalist spirit. that's when I knew: i had to study operations research and financial engineering at princeton university"

[twin adder]

why was this kinda compelling tho

just made the soulless major sound too cool

EFFERVESCENT ENTRPRENEURIAL GRIT AND MACHIAVELLIAN THIRST FOR PROFIT

f scott fitzgerald called

he wants his job back

[ionic terrace]

I know of a person at Duke who majored in Death and Dying

[twin adder]

thats me rn

[ionic terrace]

I'm not joking

[twin adder]

have a final in an hour

4 this week

[ionic terrace]

This was according to a Duke tour guide

Who brought this up during a tour

[twin adder]

i mean im majoring in philosophy

not so different from death and dyinh

[ionic terrace]

I am interested in knowing what the job market for Death majors is like

[twin adder]

uhhh theres always law school!

[ionic terrace]

Real

With a Death major, you can become judge, jury, or executioner

Whatever you please

[subtle summit]

lol ik someone who graduated as symbolic systems and her caption was so does anyone know what symbolic systems is? 😭

[old turtle]

I see the perspective on ORFE hasn't changed in 15+ years 🤣 . POL used to be known as the department where all the WWS/SPIA kids ended up when they got rejected from WWS

[jolly wasp]

apparently princeton gave 0 acceptances to turkey in the early round

[old turtle]

You still gotta do what you want to do. Every major has its stereotypes, doesn't mean you can't excel it. We're all hamsters in the eyes of the math majors. I think Max Planck said that Physics was the only science, everything else is stamp collecting

So am I 🤣 . But I enjoy what I do and my impact is different

I have ORFE friends. They enjoy doing their thing. And most of them could retire now if they wanted to

https://orfe.princeton.edu/people/advisory-council

[candid prism]

i talked to a princeton philosophy to investment banking person the other day

philosophy to finance is crazy ngl

[ionic terrace]

You learn what evil is so you can emulate it :clueless:

[hallow jay]

bet

[hallow jay]

cool i put that as one of my interests!

[humble stream]

1000%

[crimson jackal]

We get like a quiz to get our random roommates right?

What kind of questions are on there

[old turtle]

for me it was all random assignment and you get their e-mails so you can get chatting

[crimson jackal]

ohhh

maybe there is no quiz

[old turtle]

but I don't know what they do now

[crimson jackal]

that kinda scares me

[old turtle]

ask lava or smalls

[crimson jackal]

boooo

what is a qhasti

[old turtle]

a chocolate-flavored imagination that plays DOTA

[crimson jackal]

i can't tell if

i don't know

What is dota

[old turtle]

an old video game

it's the predecessor to LoL

[crimson jackal]

does chocolate flavored allude to your favorite candy

or...

is it...

nvm nvm

[humble stream]

idk about princeton but i know for harvard its like are you clean or messy, what time do you like to go to bed and get up, etc

[crimson jackal]

Do you play LOL

[old turtle]

only played a few times. I'm not good at video games

[crimson jackal]

I was wondering if there's anything about interests other than lifestyle

but prob not

that seems hard

[humble stream]

that would be cool though i hope im friends w my roommate

[crimson jackal]

we can tell

[humble stream]

oh btw i got my acceptance package

[crimson jackal]

WHAT

MINT

TODAY?

[humble stream]

yess

[old turtle]

I came up with "qhasti", when my buddies wanted to play DOTA, and I wanted to come up with a name. I started with "Q" because what word starts with "Q". The rest sorta followed

[crimson jackal]

ohhhh

I FEEL THAT

[old turtle]

lol, your screenname is just as random

what the heck is a poikuly

[crimson jackal]

i liked eating pork

and I was in my valorant phase

so I was porkuly

[crimson jackal]

A

H

[old turtle]

it's like the pork cutlets from yuri on ice 😅

[crimson jackal]

OMG

[humble stream]

i love yuri on ice

[crimson jackal]

HAVE YOU WATCHED YURI ON ICE

i didn'r expect them to be gay

is that bad

[humble stream]

where is season 2 guys 😓

[crimson jackal]

FRRRRR

[humble stream]

LOL

[old turtle]

that seemed like a one off

[crimson jackal]

NO BUT IT FIT

BUT LIKE INITIALLY

I WAS LIKE OH

[humble stream]

i had the impression it was one of the most famously gay shows 😭

it’s not even that like

obvious tho

so valid tbh

[old turtle]

I will admit I was a little surprised. But at the same time, I feel like gay acceptance is MUCH better now than when Yuri on Ice came out

[crimson jackal]

I didn't understand what was happening until they got like rings

LOL

[humble stream]

😭

[crimson jackal]

when was that

qhasti how old were you

[crimson jackal]

wait mint did it come in your mailbox or your front step

[old turtle]

Yuri on Ice was 2016

[crimson jackal]

ime been opening my mail box every hour

[crimson jackal]

I was 9

[humble stream]

i’m not sure i was at school but i don’t think it would have fit in my mailbox without getting bent so im assuming front step?

[crimson jackal]

ohhhh fairrrr

[humble stream]

same

[old turtle]

bigass folder?

[crimson jackal]

I don't have classes tomorrow so Im doing a stakeout

[old turtle]

like 8x10

[humble stream]

yep

[crimson jackal]

wait my message was deleted

[humble stream]

lucky i can’t wait until break

[old turtle]

I don't publicize my age

[crimson jackal]

LOL

BUT YOU SENT IT

its okay

secret safe with me

[humble stream]

we won’t tell qhasti

[old turtle]

yeah, some people know it, but I don't want it all over

[crimson jackal]

locked in my brain

forever

[crimson jackal]

is this week finals for you?

[humble stream]

we don’t have exams until mid january 😭

[crimson jackal]

pause

[humble stream]

this week is just like

[crimson jackal]

what'

[humble stream]

yay fun holiday activity

💀

[crimson jackal]

LOL

we have half day finals

until 10:30

[humble stream]

damn

yeah we have that significantly later for some reason

[crimson jackal]

do you study over break?

[humble stream]

if i was a responsible student i would 😅😅

[crimson jackal]

thats highkey bum

I bet the try hards do study

[humble stream]

there’s like a week after break before the finals so it’s okay

[crimson jackal]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

this is a weird system

[humble stream]

senioritis hit me im only studying for calculus

[crimson jackal]

when do you guys finish school

[humble stream]

now that i’m explaining it i do realize it sounds odd

[old turtle]

both of you are just going? no other applications?

[humble stream]

mid june?

[crimson jackal]

...

WHAT

I end may 9th

[humble stream]

i’m going im tired of applications LOL

[crimson jackal]

i need to try for mit...

but i haven't started

so

[humble stream]

i was thinking of maybe yale but i figured if i wanted to go that bad id go for grad school

[crimson jackal]

is it worth it

[humble stream]

WHAT

i’m transferring

[crimson jackal]

we start first week of august

[old turtle]

Yale and Princeton have similar campus environments. I'd go somewhere way different for grad school just for variety

[humble stream]

oh that makes sense we start first week of september

[crimson jackal]

ohhhh

[old turtle]

in that they're pretty isolated

[humble stream]

i was also kind of thinking columbia

for grad

[crimson jackal]

BRO OMG I WANNA GO TO COLUMBIA TOO

[old turtle]

which fields are you thinking?

[humble stream]

i didn’t wanna do undergrad because i don’t think im independent enough to be in nyc all alone suddenly 😭

[old turtle]

one of my best friends did her Ph.D. at Columbia

[humble stream]

maybe law eventually but i still wanna explore my options

[old turtle]

what about you, prokuily

[crimson jackal]

balls

[humble stream]

😭

[crimson jackal]

ball state here i come

[old turtle]

that's a unique major

[crimson jackal]

I strive to be

one of a dozen

not quite one in a million

[humble stream]

a dozen balls???

[crimson jackal]

but we're getting there

[crimson jackal]

I don't like men that much...

[humble stream]

HELP

[old turtle]

are we talking an even number or an odd number?

[humble stream]

same girl 😔

[crimson jackal]

pause

how would we get an odd number

[humble stream]

[old turtle]

There was a kid at my school who sufferred an unfortunate accident

[crimson jackal]

oh

oh.

uhm

wow

and they only took one?

at that point they can take both

[humble stream]

we only talk about important serious things in the princeton a2c megathread 💯

[old turtle]

rushed to surgery, but because the NCAA apparently requires people to have everything that comes in pairs (or something like that), they only removed 2/3rds of it

[crimson jackal]

oh

[old turtle]

so I guess legally speaking he still had a pair

[crimson jackal]

ehst

what

[humble stream]

this is actually so unfortunate

[crimson jackal]

this is a crazy story

and the fact that you have the details

[old turtle]

hilarious because now opponents could heckle him as 1.3333333333333

[crimson jackal]

OMG

[old turtle]

since he was the high school 3 sport star

[crimson jackal]

HELP

[humble stream]

THIS IS SO FOUL

[old turtle]

it's so funny when gen chat goes crazy and I'm like, dude, I've heard/seen some shit

[crimson jackal]

qhasti

what happens if you graduate in 5 years

instead of 4

[old turtle]

nothing, your graduation year is the year you finish, not the projected year you started with

enter as class of '29, finish as class of '30

[crimson jackal]

no but like all the merch

you have to change the bio

[old turtle]

you only get so much class specific merch. If you repeat freshman, you just get 2 sets

[crimson jackal]

burn the merch

[old turtle]

I presume you keep both. It's really up to you

[crimson jackal]

is it something many people do

or just a handful

[old turtle]

a have a few friends that entered one class and graduated a different class

[crimson jackal]

ohhh i see

i know my mom's class was like the year she went in

that makes more sense

i feel like

[humble stream]

me and my mom were having this exact convo last night

[crimson jackal]

would save me from changing my insta bio

[humble stream]

fr

[old turtle]

I mean, you shouldn't be terribly concerned about how it looks. You need to do right by yourself

[crimson jackal]

i'm really concerned qhasti

really really concerned

[old turtle]

of what?

[crimson jackal]

thats why I'm bringing it up

[humble stream]

poikuly i have a solution

[crimson jackal]

of moving my fat thumbs to edit profile

and change bio

[humble stream]

instead of putting your grad year

just put

"princeton"

problem solved

and now youre mysterious with aura trust

[old turtle]

or class of '2x

[crimson jackal]

HAHAAH WAIT THATS HOW I HAVE IT RN LOL

[crimson jackal]

nahhh thats too nonchalant

or

chalant

wait

[old turtle]

I mean ^^

[crimson jackal]

does anyone have any alpha wolf sigma solutions

[old turtle]

what's that?

[crimson jackal]

you wouldn't know

kidding

dont ban me

[humble stream]

it looks alpha wolf sigma rn ngl...

[crimson jackal]

woof woof

gonna but that in my bio

[humble stream]

wolfgang stray kids

[crimson jackal]

HELP

i lowk hate that song...

and i hate their new album...

[old turtle]

I've been listening to Maggie Rogers on repeat all day long

[crimson jackal]

who is that

[humble stream]

i like a few of her songs i was meaning to get into her

[humble stream]

me too ngl...

[crimson jackal]

ok so I'm just uncultured

[humble stream]

isnt this the one that got released on decision day

[crimson jackal]

yeah

its hot doodoo

sorry

[humble stream]

girl thats supposed to be ur celebration song 😔

[old turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNWsW6c6t8g&ab_channel=MaggieRogersVEVO

[humble stream]

wait lemme listen ive never heard the new album

[crimson jackal]

like the beginning intro chorus whatever

GREAT

rest of it

bad

[humble stream]

why is there a normal version and a "hip" version

[crimson jackal]

NO

don't listen to the hip one

[humble stream]

im gonna listen to the hip one

[crimson jackal]

oh lowk this eats

cleanse from stray kids

I HAVE THEIR BANNER ON MY WALL

AND THEY CAN'T RELEASE A DECENT SONG

AHHHHHH

i need to lock in for my final

can I get a 45

[humble stream]

can i be honest this just sounds like all other stray kdis songs 😭

[crimson jackal]

GRAHH

[humble stream]

im not majorly into them i cant tell if this is better or worse than usual

[crimson jackal]

no you're right

[humble stream]

i liked umm

miroh

ages ago

though

[crimson jackal]

ME TOO

[humble stream]

and maniac

and hellevator and stuff

[crimson jackal]

bro I need them to go back to their old era

of I AM YOU

and My Pace

i liked those songs

[humble stream]

ohhh i forgot about those i liked those

im listening to the hip version now

[crimson jackal]

I cannot with these noise songs

JJAM made me physically repulsed

in my opinion

[humble stream]

howd they make this worse 😭

[crimson jackal]

too messy

[humble stream]

that one tortoise and the hare song stresses me out

theres so much going on

[crimson jackal]

BRO

UGH YEAH

OVERSTIMULATED LOL

I reallyyyyy reallllyyy liked the rap in chk chk boom

but thats it

[humble stream]

wait serious question for princeton people where can me and poikuly buy some kpop albums.

[crimson jackal]

OH YEA

FR

[humble stream]

i actually lowk liked that song more than i like most stray kids songs

probably because there was significantly less things going on

[crimson jackal]

theres not even a target within walking distance right

[crimson jackal]

YESS FRRR

less it more

someone tell them that

LOL

I really like BBNO$ lol

off topic but

[humble stream]

im googling rn and theres like no targets or walmarts close by as far as i can tell 💀

[crimson jackal]

NO

AH

i'm gonna build a car

[humble stream]

someone please correct me...

wait maybe theres a barnes and noble or something

wait no they have that independent bookshop right

so probs no barnes and noble

[old turtle]

you mean to Princeton?

what are you looking for? there's a nearby wegmans if you have a car. It's part of a big shopping center. If you need to shop for target-type stuff, it's either the U-store or amazon

honestly, there's like.. 20 libraries, you don't need a barnes and noble, and all of them are nicer than the U-store booktsore

[humble stream]

we're trying to get um

wait this is embarrassing now

[old turtle]

either the main one or the one on Nassau Street

[crimson jackal]

LOL

[old turtle]

oh, I didn't read

Princeton Record Exchange

[crimson jackal]

whatttt

what is that

[old turtle]

https://prex.com/

new/used record shop in Princeton. It's 🔥

[crimson jackal]

YO

THATS SICK

[humble stream]

omg i heard about that i wanna go lowkey

[old turtle]

it's pretty awesome. Probably one of the best reasons to go to Princeton that's not the school or shopping

[humble stream]

have you ever just blind bought vinyls and listened to them

[crimson jackal]

i love shopping

it brings out a side of me I didn't know existed

but yesterday

i bought these jeans thinking they were SO CUTE

no

i was blinded

[humble stream]

i buy too many jeans

and they all look the same

[crimson jackal]

LOL REAL

[humble stream]

i need to donate some

i cant be buying so many of the same pants in slightly different shades of blue

[crimson jackal]

I got my first wide leg pair yesterday

cause I only wear like bootcut

but like lowk I look ugo in them

[crimson jackal]

AH YES THIS

[humble stream]

I LOVE THESE

[crimson jackal]

BUT AT THE SAME TIME

[humble stream]

wide leg started my jean issue

[crimson jackal]

mine are wayyy too long

so it bunches up

at the ankle...

LOL

[humble stream]

😭

[crimson jackal]

Gonna hem it

or whatever its called

make it shorter

[humble stream]

i tried using some safety pins on the inside to make them not so long

i dont remember how i did it but it lwok works really well

[crimson jackal]

ohhh did it work

OH OKAY

i will try

[humble stream]

i saw a line literally around the corner for small world coffee is it really that good

i just wanna knwo if its worth the wait

[crimson jackal]

I got some during my tour it lowk it was just fine

i dunno

it was good but not like

[old turtle]

eh, how high are your coffee standards?

[crimson jackal]

WOW

[humble stream]

im not that good at judging coffee but i had some at georgetown and it was lowkey crazy good

[old turtle]

I drink a lot of specialty coffee

[humble stream]

so im expecting something big here

[old turtle]

small world is a bit of a cult

give it a try

[fair marsh]

vibe checkkk

[fair marsh]

Junbi clears

[old turtle]

hmm?

[fair marsh]

wait wait

not that one

the one in Palmer sqaure

[old turtle]

is this another coffee shop?

[fair marsh]

yea

[old turtle]

found it on google maps. looks very.... boba

[fair marsh]

no no

ur looking at the wrong one

ROJOS

yea

rojos is the best coffee i've ever had

[humble stream]

cant wait to have an opinion on that

[gaunt bay]

nah fine hall common room has best coffee machine

they have espresso too

[old turtle]

Math department takes tea time seriously

[old turtle]

I'll give it a try the next time I'm in town

[fair marsh]

Bye what

You’ll never catch me in fine willingly

[fair marsh]

Please do

[fair marsh]

Yesssuhhh

[median zealot]

bro no way

[heavy breach]

@old turtle i asked my teacher to add comments to my graded written paper and she only gave areas for improvement, is that fine 😭

also the paper itself got a 30/30 but the section she commented was 13/15 for some reason 😭

is it calm if i submit the orignal one with the grade and rubric

[old turtle]

should be fine

[twin adder]

wait literally like

what is that

does it really just mean you represent things with things

thats just called abstraction

!

just finished my 3rd final

back at the library for grinding for 4th 😭

finals week or my final week

[hallow jay]

mine reached out to me before i emailed them. should i just respond normally? what does this mean they talked about a virtual panel too

@old turtle @twin adder

"Sometime in early April we will be offering a virtual panel discussion for new admits from [my general location], where you will have the opportunity to meet some current Princeton students from our area and hear their answers to many of the burning questions you might have about university life: course work, faculty, social life, sports, theater, music, science, the humanities and more. I will send specifics as the time approaches."

[old turtle]

Yup. just respond normally. Some regional committees will organize a meetup

I think the regional chairs inform the interviewer that someone they interviewed got in and to feel free to reach out to the student

otherwise its radio silence

[gaunt bay]

me neither, but at least it's free. I just go whenever I'm nearby

get coffee, a cookie or two and leave

[fair marsh]

That’s hella valid

[gaunt bay]

coffee club is hella overpriced, except for their espresso

but then again they don't make double espressos I think

😦

[gaunt bay]

not sure if this was stupid of me back in the day, but my papers barely had feedback on them. it was just like "this is an awesome paper!' and that's it lol

as long as it has an A and you're proud of what's in it I think that's all that really matters.

[rancid lion]

Is it ok if the paper is in class source based but still has idea development?

[gaunt bay]

i have no idea what that means

[gaunt bay]

also are you greek, unfortunately we can't speak in foreign languages on here but nice to meet you!

[rancid lion]

nice to meet you too! i have a feeling that we might be from the same school

[gaunt bay]

nah I'm american but I'm greek and speak it lol

[rancid lion]

oh cause princeton 2027 coinscided with the time our school sent a kid

nvm thats cool

By source based I mean a global politics, In-class essay paper, where you get 4 sources, and you answer questions based on source data and own knowledge.

[gaunt bay]

yeah i don't think people care

[gaunt bay]

so athens I'm guessing lol

[rancid lion]

no thessaloniki

[gaunt bay]

YO

that's rare

every single undergrad here from greece is from athens lol

[rancid lion]

Well we are breaking the chain lately

Cause all the athens schools are in over their heads

In ED this year, we had 1 yale, 1 dartmouth, 1 cornell

[gaunt bay]

mipos mporoume na grapsoume me anglika grammata

[rancid lion]

tha arxisoun na kanoun epithesi oi diaxeiristes

[gaunt bay]

alla den thelo ban re file

[rancid lion]

dm ama thes

[gaunt bay]

lol nai

but anyways

[rancid lion]

super proud ngl, maybe we will set a national record this year cause i have a feeling ill get in somewhere

[gaunt bay]

i mean i know a physics student already who got in

but from athens lol

[rancid lion]

yeah and there is also a student athlete

from athens

[subtle summit]

I’ve have no idea she’s tried to explain it but I don’t get it

[rancid lion]

our kid at princeton is a CS major

[gaunt bay]

oh wait shit how did I forget about him, yes I know who you are talking about

[rancid lion]

his name is galanos i think

[gaunt bay]

uh nah I think it's ||Moschopoulos||

only greek person that is in CS unless they have a non greek name

[white marten]

HELLOOOOO

[gaunt bay]

giati fonazei ugh

[rancid lion]

thats his last name

but yeah thats the guy

[gaunt bay]

oh i guess he changed first name because it's listed differently

or at least I know him by a different first name, despite speaking in greek with him here idk

[rancid lion]

maybe

[gaunt bay]

there are so many greek people at princeton it's insane, brain drain goes crazy

and cypriots

[rancid lion]

well we have many intelligent and passionate people, and the situation in greece isnt inspiring

especially when ur unis look like this

i mean i personally wanna go to the states to get a good education and come back to try and make things a bit better

its funny cause if i were to get into princeton, the cost of my education would be lower as a whole (despite greek unis beign tuition free)

[gaunt bay]

government is so corrupt 😦

hard to get anything done

[rancid lion]

somebody has to do it

[gaunt bay]

sad

[rancid lion]

cause not everyone has the luxury to leave. i considered myself priveleged in that sense

but then again if i am to come back to greece i need to find gainful employment lol and im not coming back if im doing 40 hrs for 750 euro a month

[gaunt bay]

i mean economic situation has gotten a little better thankfullly

[rancid lion]

it has but the cost of living has also risen

[gaunt bay]

LOL

[gaunt bay]

fuck airbnb

[rancid lion]

property bubble as a whole for some reason

[jade sage]

Hello Princeton chat 🥳

[twin elm]

hi!

[crimson jackal]

fizzi

i love the pfp

[twin elm]

thanks lol

apparently my youtube premium comes with 3 mo of Nitro every once in a while

[twin adder]

hello

[twin adder]

like athens greece????

i like greek philosophy

[rancid lion]

yes

the cradle of western civilization

[analog mountain]

man i really like princeton but after i got rejected from cornell ED theres no way i have even a slight chance to get into 😭😭

[old turtle]

the fit for every school is different, it's not a ladder. I would encourage you to give it a shot

[analog mountain]

i see, thanks alot

[twin adder]

LMFAOOO

its ok

ik people here who got rejected from columbia ED and then got into pton rd

[crimson jackal]

is there not a princeton 29 server

[twin adder]

i guess not

[crimson jackal]

booooooo

[inland bane]

If there's no server then why am I even applying to princeton

[crimson jackal]

frrr what a deal breaker smh

[inland bane]

Currently rescinding my app

[old turtle]

You are all beautiful and unique snowflakes who don't need to be awed by the presence of your own kind. There's always the band discord😅

[twin adder]

oh theres an a2princeton server

dm me?

[hallow jay]

should i make one?

[old turtle]

You should encourage admissions to make one

[twin adder]

hahahahhaha

nah

thats like an mit style thing

[quasi spoke]

theres a pretty big instagram group chat for pton '29

[old turtle]

The band has a discord and that's pretty old school

That said, the hard thing would be moderation

[crimson jackal]

pause whattt

not the igotin one?

[humble stream]

wait yeah how can we join the ig one

[crimson jackal]

igotin is my opp

highkey!!

wdym i have to pay 3 bucks

[twin adder]

LMFAOAOAO

THREE BUCKS???

thats diabolical

[crimson jackal]

FRRR A MONTH

A MONTH

[twin adder]

distorted market signals.................

[humble stream]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-a-wall-gif-9702424950693960694

igotin gc

[crimson jackal]

Bro navillus was saying how other people say that the gc is dead

thats prob how it looks like😞

without us 😼

[humble stream]

yeah bc whos paying that shit 😭

[humble stream]

fr we're the life of the party

wait poikuly i think i found the gc ill send it to u

[old turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[crimson jackal]

lol what are you

[old turtle]

Surprised I didn't see this last week

[crimson jackal]

like magical

fairy

[crimson jackal]

see what

did you black out?

[old turtle]

The let me in gif

[crimson jackal]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

that was me

a week ago

a week and 3 hours and 5 minutes ago

[old turtle]

And look how much you've grown in a week!

[crimson jackal]

i got senioritis

[old turtle]

Well earned

[humble stream]

today i had time to read a book for the first time in like 2 years

and then i took a 3 hour nap

i love being done

[crimson jackal]

it's frrr so refreshing

i just bedrotted

[quasi spoke]

i dont think so???

yeah it's just this gc on ig i got invited to randomly lol

there's like 70ish ppl in it??

[hallow jay]

is that the one that costs money?

[hallow jay]

can u send it to me too 🥺

[quasi spoke]

nono just a normal ig groupchat

[humble stream]

yeah i gotchu

[white marten]

Hellooooo

[dusty folio]

chat should I apply to princeton even though they don’t offer linguistics

main reason I chose to apply was because they’re generous with middle class aid

[old turtle]

I forget what department has linguistics....

[rancid lion]

does princeton have an alternative program that suits your passion?

if yes, apply

[old turtle]

a friend of mine did classics and linguistics

[rancid lion]

if not, dont. even if you get in, you might be unsatisfied

[dusty folio]

they have a minor in linguistics

and psychology is pretty related

[rancid lion]

if you are ok with that i suggest go with it

cause they are very generous with fin aid if you are admitted

[dusty folio]

okok good i’ll apply then

[old turtle]

yeah, I see the program in lingustics with some core faculty, and the associated faculty are cross listed from Comp Lit/Psych

[dusty folio]

i know they have a separate finaid thing so i could explain my unusual financial circumstances :p

[old turtle]

yeah, the finaid application is separate

in your case, I would check the research of those faculty and see if you'd be interested in majoring in Comp Lit/Psych

[dusty folio]

okok

[old turtle]

because if that department isn't built out yet, then your course options will be limited

[dusty folio]

ill look into it

thank you!

[old turtle]

not only course options will be limited, but senior thesis advisors as well

[twin adder]

thats dumb imo

pton believes in the traditional academic disciplines

you can take whatever you want outside of your 8-10 major rec classes

[rancid lion]

i mean for me thats good because I plan to do so, but it depends on the person

[old turtle]

that's like saying that all you need to be to be an elite cyclist is to be a marathon runner

[heavy breach]

i wish princeton did have more flexibility with major stuff but i understand that they let u do minors and give u freedom on senior reasearch and all

[old turtle]

yeah, the senior thesis is your chance to basically do (almost) whatever the heck you want to with the guidance of a faculty member

mine was an absolute shitshow 😅

[twin adder]

its soooo flexible academically

like literally besides your academic advisor no one is gonna bother you. you take whatever classes you want

just cause you cant double major doesnt mean you cant explore like 20 disciplines while youre here

again: the major is ~30% of your classes here

[old turtle]

unless stem where you have to gen chem (1-2 courses), organic chem (2 courses), physics (2 courses), and departmental requirements. Damn MOL sucked 😅

[heavy breach]

i mean yeah sure, but it still would be nice to double major imo, especially with topics that are kinda liminal or interdisciplinary

[old turtle]

is MOL less popular now? Back in my day, there were ~100 grads per class

[heavy breach]

is mol molecular biology

[old turtle]

so what you can do is have multiple advisors on your thesis from different departments

[heavy breach]

that’s a lot wow

[old turtle]

and get certificates in 1-2 different departments

aside from administrative limits, nobody's going to write two theses in two departments, but you have flexibility if you rope someone in from another department

ultimately, your thesis is a personal acacdemic expression, so if you can do something interesting with it, then it won't really matter what your major is

my thesis was biology, but I used computational methods. Turns out, ~10 years down the line, computational is all I'm doing

the ability to do your thesis on what you want to is one of the many strengths of the undergrad program

[rancid lion]

cool. curious though, if 30% of your classes are for your major, does that mean that you have more free time to pursue opportunities like internships while in school?

(this would obv mean not taking many "optional" classes)

[old turtle]

uh.... 4-5 courses doesn't "sound" like a lot, and there are easier/harder courses, but I don't think students in general have a lot of "free" time

[rancid lion]

makes sense

guess it depends on the student as well

a small part of me hopes that 2 yrs of ib might help me sideline some intro courses but that may not play out the way ive imagined it

[old turtle]

IB/AP have little to no value

at least they didn't before. It's very department specific

[rancid lion]

econ 101 it is then

[old turtle]

Physics gives no credit. They force everyone to take 103/105 and at least back then, 105 was enough to cause the majority of students to throw fits

[rancid lion]

i mean i dont mind, i just feel like ill be repeating stuff that ive already embedded

[old turtle]

depends. College is different

[gilded bear]

Hello Princetonians

I have an inquiry

Could I take a 500 level COS course as an undergrad?

I'm asking because I'm writing one of the supps and found a course I want to take but I want to confirm if I could actually take it

[heavy breach]

tbh 2 years of IB/equivalent rigor is honestly expected for freshman

[severe cypress]

You can only take 100-400

400-500 are grad courses

as far as I know

maybe someone like

@twin adder could tell you more

[gilded bear]

😦

[severe cypress]

usaco mod spotted in the wild???

https://tenor.com/view/anime-nichijou-otl-orz-defeat-gif-12179354

[gilded bear]

what? no

[heavy breach]

juniors/seniors can petition to take grad courses

so yh

[severe cypress]

but aren't you a mooderator...

[gilded bear]

should i write about it in a supp then if its not even guaranteed

[gilded bear]

idk what that means

this is A2C.

[severe cypress]

i caught you in the wild..

out of your natural habitat ^-^

[gilded bear]

nooo

[severe cypress]

this is like finding a cow in a school

[gilded bear]

well thats common in oklahoma

[severe cypress]

Farmer John accidentally let the gate open, and Betty, his fastest cow, escaped into the local school! Betty is now causing chaos, running through classrooms and hallways. Farmer John needs to catch Betty before she causes even more trouble! The school is represented as a straight hallway with N rooms labeled from 1 to N, arranged in rows. Betty starts in room B and Farmer John starts in room F.

Betty moves according to predefined steps M, where each step is either L or R

[gilded bear]

bro the last contest i did was 2 years ago chill

[severe cypress]

Farmer John can move to any adjacent room (L or R) or stay in his current room

but he can only move once after Betty moves each step

Farmer John's goal is to catch Betty in the fewest possible steps

[severe cypress]

so orz

[gilded bear]

we leave this behind now.

[gilded bear]

@severe cypress

[severe cypress]

this is for the why major essay?

[gilded bear]

yeah

i can go into more specifics in dms just dont want those pesky plagiarizers to see

wait bruh

you're a senior nah

i thought you were at princeton

😭

[severe cypress]

I would say yes but also mention ones you can take during undergraduate

[severe cypress]

hell nah

soon dw

[gilded bear]

i saw the furry pfp

and i assumed

mb

[severe cypress]

Im not a furry

[gilded bear]

sure...

[gilded bear]

alr

wait are you even applying eng

[severe cypress]

no

physics lmao

[gilded bear]

Alr can I dm you then

[severe cypress]

👍

[twin adder]

you can take grad or phd courses

just gotta justify it to the prof

[gaunt bay]

yeah it's relatively common to do that

[gaunt bay]

false

[steady tendon]

its a bit annoying to have to petition

[gaunt bay]

it's only one form...

[steady tendon]

thats so much work

[gaunt bay]

you just have it signed by prof and dean

[gilded bear]

Bro you go to Princeton 😭

[gaunt bay]

that's super easy relative to other princeton paperwork

[gilded bear]

Isn't that so much work by itself

[gaunt bay]

what

[gilded bear]

Thanks for lmk

Are you cos?

[gaunt bay]

no i am ex-math

but know many cos people who did that

[gilded bear]

Who are you dating now? What are you majoring in now?

[gaunt bay]

just saying but some people get into princeton without having to work....

[steady tendon]

ex math is so real

[gilded bear]

But isn't Princeton itself very intensive

[gaunt bay]

not really, frat track econ is a breeze

[steady tendon]

it really depends on what you choose to do

[gilded bear]

Oh damn

[steady tendon]

and yet some people stil struggle

[gilded bear]

What about cos bse?

I'd imagine that's not particularly easy... right?

[steady tendon]

my friends who r cos bse arent having too hard of a time

[gaunt bay]

i am thinking comp lit with math minor

[steady tendon]

the egr sequence and all the first year stuff can be rough tho

[steady tendon]

obsessed with this combo

[gaunt bay]

thanks karl

[gaunt bay]

some struggle others don't, basically every major here

[steady tendon]

i wish i was cool enough to be comp lit

[gilded bear]

What's comp lit btw?

[gaunt bay]

comparative literature

[gilded bear]

Ooh

That sounds cool

[gaunt bay]

you take two languages (I'm planning on 3) and you just take lit theory + history courses

[steady tendon]

whats yoru language combo

[gaunt bay]

modern + ancient greek + spanish

[steady tendon]

obsessed

[gilded bear]

Ok that's insanely cool 😭😭

[steady tendon]

are you doing classics stuff too

[gaunt bay]

you can also travel a lot for it

[gaunt bay]

yeah!

[steady tendon]

omgggg

[gaunt bay]

I basically do modern and ancient greek lit + spanish lit

[steady tendon]

love

[gaunt bay]

modern greek is what I know best currently though. Taking ancient greek next sem (and then 105-107 in junior year) and spanish separately

[gilded bear]

Are you looking to continue this after college in academia?

[gaunt bay]

uh unsure

still thinking of finance jobs and consulting

[steady tendon]

yesss consulting

[gaunt bay]

possibly government

[steady tendon]

how is soph summer recruiting going

[gaunt bay]

currently up in the air, junior year is main focus and I'm figuring something out for 2025

[steady tendon]

ok slay

if you wanna case lmk

[gaunt bay]

cause I had a massive switch of what I wanted to do like...just after midterms so

still getting back on my feet

[steady tendon]

thats so real

[gaunt bay]

will potentially hyu for this when the time comes thanks

[gilded bear]

@gaunt bay since you seem to know about the language stuff at Princeton, have you heard anything about the Persian language program?

I was thinking of taking some classes in that because it seemed cool to me

[gaunt bay]

@hidden thicket

i have yeah, apparently it is very chill

[gilded bear]

Ok that's great

[steady tendon]

the smaller lang programs r p chill

[heavy breach]

lowk im kinda torn between BSE CS and AB Math

i dont feel like doing the BSE application tho

[steady tendon]

what is the bse app

[heavy breach]

bse has a separate essay (different than the AB essay)

i dont likethat essay

[steady tendon]

oh lol

[median zealot]

Just apply ab

and switch to bse if you get in

[heavy breach]

yeah exactly

im js saying after i get in

[gaunt bay]

just know what you are getting yourself into for AB math

I have my reasons for retiring out of AB math...but it depends on the person

[severe cypress]

I mean it’s Princeton.. if you’re looking for easy i don’t think Princeton is the way to go

[old turtle]

it's easy if you plan for it in your courseload/course selections. Hard if you don't

[twin elm]

Now i just gotta decide between CS BSE and Comp E

[gilded bear]

wait are you doing ab or bse btw

[gaunt bay]

nah princeton can def be easy

but then again doing X thing at a state school is like 5X harder at Princeton majority of the time

or any top school

[severe cypress]

Lmao

[median zealot]

BSE cos

Might switch to ece idk

[old turtle]

you mean ele?

there's ECE now?

oh, they renamed ELE

that's better branding

f I'm old

[twin elm]

Yea my bad i meant ece

[old turtle]

nah, "back in my day", it was ELE, and now it's ECE

it was ELE as recently as 2016?

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2021/02/02/department-name-change-signals-broad-impact-computer-and-information-technologies

name changed in 2021

[twin adder]

exactly were tired asf

[twin adder]

you choose your own rigor

also school is a skill

if you have the skill, then its just going through the motions and not difficult

like once you learn how to get A's its just not so bad

i made it home yall

9 hours of travel yesterday killed me

that semester was lowk crazy but whatever

we ball!

[old turtle]

damn where you live? It could be cali by air or... north carolina-ish by car

though I suppose train is an option

[twin adder]

why only east and west coast options

im in the midwest bro

[old turtle]

because I'm basic

[twin adder]

dont forget bout us

[old turtle]

and statistically most likely

[twin adder]

i suppose the ivy-presence in the midwest is small

like

people here dont really think about ivies

[old turtle]

does Ohio/Illinois (great lakes) count as midwest to you?

because midwest to me is like, nebraska/iowa big square states

[twin adder]

yes

im from the great lakes area

[old turtle]

dang. I was of the opinion that that's not "midwest"

guess I'm wrong

[twin adder]

bruh what

then where do i live

north narnia?

[old turtle]

I dunno. There are whole states that don't have an arena big enough for a Taylor swift concert

[mild spindle]

yooooo lmao

ceiling fan guy

also guys

when do we need to submit the graded essay

after you submitted the app right?

[analog mountain]

i wanted to ask about the graded essay too, im giving my alevels currently and english isnt one of my subjects so i legit have no essay graded at all, I emailed the admissions but they said RIP BOZO its required

can i submit an old essay from my IGCSE?

but im worried that writing its really shit 😭

[viral veldt]

does anyone here know any international transfer who initially got rejected as a first-year applicant?

[twin adder]

that feels

unlikely

we have like 30 transfers per year

if not less

also a lot of the transfer spots are for ex military people!

[drifting prism]

what about cc

[mild spindle]

cough wyoming

[steady tendon]

is wyoming not big

oh whoops didnt read

is there like midwestern state beef

[old turtle]

there's a lot of beef in the midwest

[mild spindle]

it is big

but there's like no people there

so they dont need to have a huge stadium

[halcyon hare]

dang

they should report them

and I’ll get their place 🙏

[grim dock]

What did u guys submit as a graded paper?

Thinking of submitting my ap lit essays

[frail meadow]

hey guys

is this sufficient for the grade for the graded paper

i’m worried it doesn’t look legit

my teacher emailed it tho

it’s just my essay and then this

[old turtle]

one of the terms of admission is that if they find any misrepresentations in your application they can rescind. So if it's real, they can investigate

[fair marsh]

Looks legit. I literally typed the grade I got for the paper and the comment my teacher gave me at the bottom…so I think you’ll be ok

[frail meadow]

sweet thanks 🙏🏽

[cosmic notch]

here for princeton rd

[steady tendon]

hi graham

[fair marsh]

Hey Karl

[steady tendon]

crazy seeing you on here

it’s sooooo easy

like a good amount of my transcript is me fucking around

[mild spire]

Will the AO know my selected major for the essays? I want to refer to it without stating the entire name to save on words

[old turtle]

You can always use the 3 letter abbreviation for the department

[mild spire]

Oh right that's probably better

[ashen burrow]

Will Princeton accept a 700-1000 word handwritten argumentative essay graded by my teacher as the graded written paper? It's not an exam sheet

[humble stream]

i submitted ap lit essays

[median zealot]

Does it fit the criteria

[mild spindle]

Did ygs submit after you submitted the app?

[grim dock]

I haven’t even started my Princeton app 😭

[grim dock]

How much comments did your teacher make?

My lit teacher only gives like 1 sentence

[median zealot]

Don’t worry about it too much

Whether or not your teacher wrote enough comments on your graded paper is not going to be a deciding factor lol

[grim dock]

Ok tysm 🙏

[ashen burrow]

It's an argumentative essay of the same type that'll be on the final, so I think yes

[ashen burrow]

Just wanted to check if handwritten was fine

My handwriting is atrocious (not unreadable though)

And my teacher doesn't grade digitally afaik

[median zealot]

Ohh

I don’t see why not

[ashen burrow]

Bet

[ashen burrow]

on a tangent, I need to head to school after christmas and get my teacher to grade the paper 😭

[vestal dew]

I know that Princeton usually recommends 4 years of a language but is it required?

Like would they throw out your application if you don't have it

[white marten]

It is not required

I took 1

[median zealot]

Nah

I did 3

[twin adder]

no

its just good to see

but fine, like i didnt do that

[ashen burrow]

Will marks cut it for a graded written paper?

The paper I'm submitting will be marked out of 30 but won't be graded per se

[old turtle]

what's the difference between marks and graded?

[ashen burrow]

Grades means A, B, C etc right?

[old turtle]

check the guidelines. I think the important part is they want feedback from your teacher

[ashen burrow]

Alr

[mild spindle]

guys someone please answer

i asked my teacher at least twice this week

she still hasnt sent it

are these due after jan 1st

[cosmic notch]

Does anyone know anything about prof nebel from philosophy

I know him from somewhere else but I can't find anything on classes he teaches or clear leads on current research

[wise marsh]

i would check rate my professors because you can see what classes they teach through there

[cosmic notch]

All I can find is his USC rate my prof

[old turtle]

have you checked his personal website?

took me 1 google search to find it

[cosmic notch]

Yes

Ive known for years

But these aren't always updated, so I wanted to ask current students if anyone knew anything new that might not have been updated yet

[old turtle]

Professors usually care more about their research than the courses they teach, since papers lead to promotions. Aren't there philosophy databases to search for their most recent output?

[cosmic notch]

True

I'll check those out

[old turtle]

his website has papers up to 2024, so that's pretty recent

[cosmic notch]

I'm prob overestimating how far the undergrad focus at Princeton is

[old turtle]

what do you mean?

[cosmic notch]

Princetons reputation as undergraduate focusee

I'm overestimating how that effects the course/research split

[old turtle]

the primary expression of this is the research you do in your senior thesis. But there's nothing stopping you from walking into a professor's office and lobbying to be useful with whatever they're working on

doing it early as a freshman is just setting up for your senior thesis

if you want to think that far ahead

[cosmic notch]

Hm

Alright

How significant of a disadvantage is not having research in apps

I might be tweaking rn but might as well ask

[old turtle]

honestly, I'm not an AO, so I don't actually know. But Princeton is a research university with a student body with diverse backgrounds. I imagine your access to research opportunities makes a difference as well

some people just don't have any access

[cosmic notch]

Gotcha

[old turtle]

I would presume that they would not hold it against them. but again, I don't actually know

there's a current student here who's a philosophy major, you can ping them

mr smalls

[cosmic notch]

@twin adder

[cosmic notch]

Did you have any research going into princeton?

[humble stream]

what lava said lol yeah mine left literally one word he just said “good” 🤷‍♀️

[cosmic notch]

My lit teacher doesn't give feedback often lol

like none

just the grade

[gilded bear]

How easy is it to change from CS AB to BSE?

Or vice versa actually

[old turtle]

If you plan for it and take the course load, easy. Otherwise, harder but doable

[twin adder]

the research question?

[cosmic notch]

Yeah

[mild spindle]

someone??

[twin adder]

lol so i did do like some materials electrical engineering research

about energy stuff

as a research intern under a professor

but i didnt end up including it in my application

cause i had other more important stuff i wanted to highlight

ran out of room

[cosmic notch]

so you didnt have research on ur app?

[twin adder]

correct

i put other stuff i found more important that i did in hs

i also wasnt really applying as a sciences kid

[cosmic notch]

gotcha

so i am not cooked

wonderful

[analog mountain]

hey any environmental engineering major here?

[subtle rivet]

Heard so much about it. What's the difference

[sweet bramble]

Hi

[violet vector]

how does the loci work?

do i upload it as an optional supporting doc?

[cosmic notch]

the first supp is so hardddd

[modern drum]

lmfao

I shudve advertised purdue during uchi ed day lol

[pulsar crest]

I got deferred how long should I wait to send a LOCI? I don’t want to be too late and send it after they’ve already looked at my application again, but I don’t think I’ll have a big change until like mid February

[clear yoke]

what if my mid year grades don’t come out till early Feb

[gilded bear]

But transferring shouldn't be hard, right?