#University of Southern California (USC) (2024-2025)
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i went there for a mini vacation and i was obsessed with irvine
💀
where r u based
tn!
omg
whoa thats far
ikk
wait how is that one day
?
i just rlly wanted to do a roadtrip around america b4 college
oh fr? i swear it said a day
after college is cooler tho
or like during
urm does usc have good parking 🥺
i'm doing that with my buddies
i can’t go without my carr
if you are willing to pay for a permit sure
oh fs
ye there is parking
idt people have too much issue with that stuff here
they took down one parking garage last year i don't remember people complaining too much
awesome!!
i don't have car so i couldn't tell u anything tho
what are you majoring in?
nah a lot of people do that here
ye even cs games ppl
grad early double minor stuff
not uncommon
oh nice
hmm i can check my finaid portal
i was having a heart attack bc i had to fax all the forms myself bc my parents weren’t available 😭😭
the fast portal is the most ass website ever
they asked for my schedule e, tax supplement and w-2 forms
i have to do those for break next week
REAL SHIR
so dysfunctional
why do they make you submit the w-2 again when it's already in your tax return that you send to the fafsa
i’m p sure they’re selling our data to third party websites
not to mention schedule e
i have no idea. i had to fax them separately too 💀
fuck i have to do all that stuff in a week
hmmm i don’t see anything i need to submit
i hate fin aid
scratch that fin aid is the only reason im here
but i hate dealing with it
hmm i have that too
there’s two review thingies
fuck the housing app closed
wait what
i should've done it last month
im admitted ea
oh zayum jumpscare
hmm let me check rq
yo you haven't done it yet
they fucked the reassignment for ppl continuing but why do freshmen get caught
u should’ve gotten an email if there were any outstanding forms
yea all of my stuff is good
wha i can't find the button
i’m scared the stuff i entered on the tax supplement is wrong
i applied for summer housing this morning it definitely works
bc it took me an hour to fill out 💀
oh nvmi got it
oh wow 😮
all my homies hate idoc
css profile
anyone related to that
wait do i gotta submit the css profile every year
why can i do allat
idrc. it sent to all my colleges for free 😀
yessir me too
ts pmo
mccarthy > birnk > marks/pardee > webb > new north > parkside > everything else
humble opinion
ok imma just put what you said
XD
are single dorms hard to get
yep
😢😢😢😢
impossible
😢😢😢😢
css profile is dogshit website
but if you're doing it like mr shrimp you cannot get a single
wait i can't pick mccarthy anyways im not honors
well then just go the rest then
i think my rankings pretty good
unless you are latinx then you live on the latinx floor
or asian then you live on the asian floor
why couldn't they give me some scholarships/honors bruh
etc
so pmo icl
i applied to marshall. is it worth it if i get in? my other top choice right now (waiting for more t20s) is uva echols. but mcintire isn’t guaranteed…
what do i do here
i only know darden what is the diff with mcintire
double, single, or triple 🤔
mcintire is the commerce school for undergrad
i thought single is impossible
only sophomores, juniors and seniors can be in it
well it is your preference
so i would have to reapply as a freshman 💀
no guarantee unfortunately
there are only 4 that's why i said it was imp
stinky housing app
bc its pretty much 0
oh shit
ok wtf $2k more
have u guys seen juju watkins around
ye but how is that diff from darden
i’m a fan
bc all the people ik that place well out of uva are darden peeps
darden is the grad school 😭
not doxing myself so i will send this march madness pic
you will have to believe me when i say i got one with her after
6 7
nooooo
if ur not with me ur against me
usc lost to ucla yesterday 💔
up by 10 at half too…
juju should get npoy
we beat them at pauley
lowkey what do these mean
marshall better than echols 1 million percent
is the 2b3p single like two rooms for one person
thats crazy work
scroll down
im blind and also stupid
XD
webb tower experience
thats what
nah half the time you don't actually get what is in that floor plan
one bathroom 😢
like my room in cowlings here is completely diff to what the website says
one bathroom 4 people is definitely hell
i’m immediately leasing an apartment with friends sophomore year 😢😢
im commuting sophomore year ong
that's if you can find a place thats cheaper
LOL
i got a steal next year that's why im not going back to usc housing
right it’s la
like i have a buddy here shelling out 2.2 for a studio
he got it knocked down from 2.6 because he paid 12 months up front
crazy
at that point its actually cheaper to stay with usc housing
nopers
sink in a cabinet is crazy work
marshall mcintire is closer, pretty much comes down to where you want to work (usc places better out west obviously) and how much you care about the other things. and cost ofc
what are these options.
box
thats the usc dorm experience
i really want to research this but that’s too much commitment for a maybe school
lowkey bigger than my room at home
all the dorms look like that
naur
are u in yet
ea
nah i applied rd
my rural area better give me that app boost 🥹
oh same
but i had some future ecs and apparently ea doesn’t allow updates
i also liked that the rd deadline was super far compared to most colleges
hot take but i really feel like if you are letting aos know about something you did in like december before apps just for the sake of apps it never ends well
damn gender inclusive housing
but like
i don't wanna deal with someone who has like shitton of beauty and makeup products
senior spike 😢😢
XD
i was in cargar last year which is technically gender inclusive
i just didn't see that many ppl like that bc half the athletes live there
fuck can i waive this
but that's also bc i think only 1% of usc population is lgbt
imma do the rest of this shit tmrw
fml
damn roommate
i don't know anyone
rip
how does usc STILL need more finaid docs
Its nonstop bro
and the portal is so ass too...
I literally submitted everything in december got accepted EA and they still didn't give me my offer 😭
they asked my parents for a form signature and theyre sending it to the irs to be audited ?????
i got deferred bruh how in depth is this process
lol they asked for me to sign a form
then i tried to
and it went away
💀
cus i looked at it earlier and it was there
fml
wtf
mind you they asked for it yesterday when i already sent them 10 other forms before the ea deadline
idek
so annoying
cus it said they wanted me to sign 4652
but i cant
💀
so tf
they js dont need iut..
crazy
i thibk it gets sent to your parents??
they needed a form signed in my portal too but it was actually sent to my premts
parents
did anyone else apply for american popular culture / or narrative studies
i can't tell if theyre selective/impacted programs coz theres little info on them
USC doesn’t have impacted majors! All acceptance rates are relatively the same across majors
can i dm you a question?
yes!
they wont hahah
No estimate yet?
No 😭
I turned in my stuff real late and got an estimate next day
They asked for like my entire life story
Every time I submitted smth it asked for smth else
Ong bruh
Theyre building ur 10000 piece finaid puzzle
if it makes you feel better im a continuing student and they asked for my parents' marriage certificate lol
but if you guys get in you should totally pull up to explore s.c. bc i will be there w the band
Thats a thing? 💀
Idek if my parents have one lmao
yes lol its legal documentation of your marriage
if your parents were legally married/file taxes joinly then they have one
but i wasnt asked for it last year so you shouldnt have to worry about it rn lol
He's fire
hmm
see ive never heard of this guy but he's headlining springfest this year
might have to actually think abt going then 🤔
you’ve what
should listen to him first
to see if you like him
go to usc guys
WHAT
HELLO DEFO GO
oh my gosh I should’ve applied dawg 😭😭😭🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️💔💔
Another day, another two giant Ls for USC 😒
its ok we have don toliver
🙂
Nvm make that 3
also im going to pete carroll's class tmrw
wait how is this
an l
apparently this guy is super good
but i wouldn't know
Maybe not for some folks, but his kind of music is the only kind I can't stand
Over-autotuned mumble rap
you dont even go here tho so why would you care whos playing at springfest lol
how is it sold out already
wait its sold out already??
so i fear i am actually in tech during springfest so like if you want my ticket ill give it to u
LMAOOOOO
i would love that
you can pretend to be me LMFAO
literally me missing green day both times they were in la bc of rehearsal
Thank god for that—broke ahh school
what an odd thing to say
especially when the conscerts committee is a student-run org
🤭
I'm more calling the school broke for the 5% tuition spike they announced earlier + the new multimillion dollar lawsuit against them than the contents of a concert I won't be attending, to be fair
plus apartment plan
plus that books thing that came out the other day
(that probably just exists so they can remove the books line item from the coa to keep it below $100k)
i mean the books thing is like. the one good thing the admin has done recently
one of my friends in engineering has paid almost 1k for her textbooks this year
$260/sem is a lifesaver
it's probably good for some people
but i definitely paid less than $100 for books this sem
ye to each their own i suppose
i mean you can opt out of it
ive only paid like $50 the entire year
i will dog on this school when they make bad decisions but the textbooks fee is genuinely great
the books line item is still on the coa page lol
rare usc trustees w
And also the price increase to the meal plan for on-campus upperclassmen housing
ya thats the apartment plan thingy
if they make me buy that apartment plan for this summer in cng i will actually lose my mind
ngl the apartment plan isnt as bad as i though itd be
really
its 120 meal swipes that you can use at dining halls and tcc
and like $50 in dining dollars
my roommate vows to never step into a dining hall again once we move in next year
off campus
i enjoy the dining halls idk
ye they're not that bad
some people are just like that 
when i have free saturdays sometimes ill just spend the entire day there doing schoolwork
Sounds nice!
The time I made beef Wellington at usc
Ya lowk was gud
i love my kitchen i just have no time to cook < / 3
yall arent using free pdfs for your textbooks?? rookie mistakes
me when almost all of my textbooks are in the public domain
sda moment
thats colleges generally
fr, who pays for pdfs
ya i've been doing that
lol at this point in my career its just me and scribd like this 🤞🏻
it's just that the accounting professors make you buy the book or else you can't access homework

i dont even have scribd lol i just use archive.org or anna's archive
wait kiley did you have heinrich for 225
nah i had lori fisher
reina is goated tho
bro im fighting for my life
shes so nice shes just not a good prof
fr that one website that stores and archives pdfs is the goat
apparently saying its name is illegal here
yeah you just gotta remember that this is like her phd so its like her special interest LOL
YEAH I WAS WARNED FOR SAYING IT LOL
it just autodeletd and i was like okie not tryna get into beef
i have never been more jealous of people than those in finbergs class rn lol
i want to know < / 3
the website that the colleen hooover fans took down
225 sucks for everyone ngl, it’ll be okay tho
BYE
bruh i have to do well in this class to get aaa bc of [REDACTED] dragging down my gpa last sem
so silly goofy
i would say complain to sergio but that aint gonna get you anywhere either sooo
the way we had an entire email thread about it and then when i was like "dude this straight up isnt true" he stopped emailing me and sent an email w sergio CC'd that referred to it as "the confusion" instead of him being wrong
"Because of the confusion regarding your absences, I’ve adjusted the score in the preparation category of your crew assignment, bringing your grade up to a B- and I think that is generous."
negating the fact that i had an A in the class before
same, new plan doesn't seem too bad especially as someone who doesn't cook
first thing my econ prof talked about in class today is to not sign up for the book thingy 😂
jokes on him we're automatically enrolled
i mean i feel like it isn’t that bad for the amount you get
tbh the old plan was kinda shitty in comparison
yea it was less expensive but the value was also much lower
When does RD come out?
We're just as clueless as you bud... They said by April 1st on the portal but we'll see
theyre revealing the date tmrw
guys does the RD date when revealed, also apply to the portfolio majors like in sca?
i would imagine it does
ok thanks !!
yes
probably
it does lol
yayyy thanks
np!! i was also in a portfolio major so i understand the struggle lol
dude I’m so nervous 😭😭😭 I heard that you have to get into usc and then the specific college dyk if that’s true??
it’s my dream schoolll
yes, for portfolio programs you have to be admitted academically and artistically!
if you have a non-portfolio major for your second choice then you can be admitted just academically too
thanks sm for the help :)) would u say usc is worth it for the student loans if finaid doesn’t work out ??
legit toured a few months back and i js knew its the perfect fit the campus is so pretty
it really depends how much youd have to take out and your other options for schools
i wouldnt worry about that right now
true true okok
thanks sm!
np!!
maybe it’s a promo for something?
who excited for decision date reveal
what time are they gonna announce it?
i think they might post it around 3:30 or 4:00 EST since that’s when they posted the post announcing the date release
i’m so worried though because i accidentally sent them all my SAT scores including my most recent SAT which is my second lowest
if MIT gave me full ride I'd still choose USC does that make me insane
no
perhaps slightly
only here can you get to shake hands with pete carroll and jason sudeikis
sitting in a class
Mit isn't for everyone
I sorta meant MIT as a conceptual generalization for any hypsm and etc.
well hypsm etc isn't for everyone either
ur parents prob look at you like ???
wait my reply didn't go through
i was replying to thirust
misclick
that adds more context
supposedly for 911
so the rd results date hasn't been announced yet?? it's the 14th already 🙂
In 6ish hours
USC RD Decision Date
Wednesday, March 26
@everyone
oh damn bet
oh wow
Can’t believe I had notifs on and didn’t get this
Also feel free to ping me next time
Okieeeee
who they think they r bruh jjst release it
That’s a lifetime away bro
😭😭😭
march 26 is like 8 months away ughhh
why is it so late this year UGHGHGH
i fear it is actually normal time 😭
it was 3/24 my year it's unfortunately normal territory
now why am i doing a saturday morning event three days after decisions
wdym
i think its harder than the other schools
but manageable
according to what i read online
if you mean internal transfer yes it's possible
when i did it you needed an a in econ 351 and a 3.7 GPA
was the A slight
26 is so weird
Yall were speculating fridays
So i assumed it would be 21 or 28
Wtf is this 26
A whole ass wednesday
Kms
I got a bum ass scholarship
"Directors"
I knew I flopped that interview but like 😭
what does slight mean
No it’s pretty okay
is it better to go to cc oos or go to my state college to try and transfer
im not from cali
Doesn’t matter cuz it’s a private
okay
i just heard that usc accepts alot of ccc transfer
We indeed do
is it cuz of preference or
cuz they have transfer agreements with them too
Eh not really. I’ve met a lot of transfers that weren’t cc,like uwash, Emory, cwru, ucr
Ya np.
Oh my bad, it means easy
i mean there is a preference for california cc transfers bc they have articulation agreements with all of the california community colleges since all california residents get two years free of cc
but theres a ton of transfers in general
Better than nothing ngl
Did u get one
No
Wait did u get the interview
No
Ohh ok
351 is considered to be the hardest class in the marshall business core
Ah interesting
i found it easy enough, not the easiest class ive taken but definitely not the hardest
but that might be because im an econ major so the 351 learning curve was probly much less steep for me compared to marshall people
LMAO this is crazy
It sounds like they practically halved the number of merit scholarships given???
This made me feel better about getting fucking "directors" scholarship
HELP they literally invented that scholarship type this year just to swindle the folks they brought in to interview 😭
The way the 6k a year scholarship barely even covers the difference of their annual price hike
Thats what I assumed but like I thought it was just me cause I flopped the interview at least it happened to a lot of others too 😭
Literally like
At least I get McCarthy I guess 🙄 🙄
Mccarthy is fire tho
You do?
Well that's a neat perk at least!
ye i saw this on the reddit
some of these changes man
...
hey at least football recruiting is going well
Nah they fcking destroyed that shit
I can’t even play tennis or pickle for free now
Lowk pmo
wait you have to pay
to use marks
can't you just go there when there aren't games
Ya it’s annoying
Nah cuz it’s locked
Yea it said in the email they sent me
That's nice!
let’s not use derogatory terms
I uh
Didn't realize, sorry
Didn't mean it derogatorily, just meant it as "to cheat someone" 😭
live and learn
but ur right tho
folt haters getting their moneys worth before she leaves in like 2 months
what an odd thing to say
FR
I have a feeling it's not gonna get any better with her out of office
fact is usc has a lot of things going for it
but
a lot of the bad things are rearing their heads rn yk
Oh yeah naturally! Academically it's honestly kinda underrated
Top business program, top communications program, top film program, strong theater, strong engineering, strong CS
It has a similar spread and quality of majors to Northwestern tbh—a school ranked 20 spots higher
Oh yeah for sure
Chicago feels roughly equivalent to LA though
depends on industry
Maybe a bit worse or better depending on what you're after, but on a similar tier
ya
Like
Well yeah, but that's kinda at least partially a result of the administration 😭
yeah i gotchu
ugh I lost consideration for the presidential/trustee scholarship and only got offered 6k
I mean that’s definitely generous but for usc it’s like pity money I’m so disappointed with myself
help me too
matt can I ask how your interview went
Oh I lowkey flopped
But i saw ppl saying that everyone who gets interviewed gets presidential or trustee
But ig this year they had budget cuts 💀
Hbu
Omg I still needa fill that out
my interview was okay I mean they were all smiling but maybe it was just a facade lol
I feel like mine was hella awkward
I mean I read people’s past experiences
Well now ik to put McCarthy first ig
they said it was awkward but they still got presidential or even trustee
I can’t believe they slashed the scholarship recipients guhh
Exactly that's what I thought too
Ugh
And all the other good schools rejected me today so like
I'm prob stuck paying almost full USC tuition
😍
dont go at that point
if it's 70k total or something
it WAS my top choice too lol
I don't like the other schools I got into that much 😭
Rutgers
what school?
But eughhhh
what for
ooh thats interesting
i mean can you afford usc
They didn't even give me my financial aid estimate for usc yet though
yeah tbh if you're paying close to sticker and you have to take out like $200k viterbi is not going to be worth it
ah well wait for that then
but
if you're paying anything close to full here no way
They gave it to most ppl apparently so idk why
for viterbi
did you hear if anyone got the bigger scholarships or did they not come out yet?
I mean like yea my brother goes to nyu stern
it’s bc they have to calculate it with your scholarship
Ohh ok
It's gonna be like the same 😭
if you don’t have to go to grad school and your family can afford it then like. i would go
I'm thinking to get a job after undergrad and then like they can pay for my grad school right
For engineering is that how it works
it depends on the company you work for
if you don’t need to go to grad school i wouldn’t rush lol
ik a grad student in robotics who’s 27 and didn’t have to take out any loans bc he just worked for five years after undergrad and saved up enough to go to grad school
he didn’t need to go, he just wants to do research lol
Oh yea lowkey im only going if i have to
that changes things then
But to each their own
i mean tbh viterbi has great job placement
ik a civil engineering senior who had an offer in boston since last summer that she just turned down bc she got an even better one in la
Ooh ok
yeah we lowkey have a feeder going on to la28 bc the guy doing transportation went to usc
and hes hiring a bunch of usc students rn
so you will be fine career wise if you put in the work
la28 mentioned🤤
I've heard of this happening to 7 people, I've seen 2 presidential scholars, and 0 trustee scholars so far... yikes
yeah i went to their hq the other day
so cool
yall will see me volunteering in 3 years from now no cap
You're not alone, Nor, at the very least! Don't think it's anything you did! 💙
eek very interesting
i mean only about 100 people get trustee, it’s not like it was that popular before
Ughh I feel you so much rn 😭😭
Oh wow
Yeah, but they also announced yesterday that they're taking fewer trustee scholars this year
They shoulda told us this before
Ik
😭
Ngl I feel swindled on y'all's behalf 😭
They did you dirty stringing you along with the interviews and not even giving you deans
There was legit zero indication they'd do that till yesterday
honestly what annoys me so much about all this
is all the stuff happening in dc
fsc
with the new cmapus
have you been lurking here listening to this whole convo and then now you decide to type this
really
it’s a difference of like 3% and 4%
nah i saw yall got swindled so i felt the compulsion to say that on their behalf
It's a difference of like 3% and 12%
Whats goin on
that’s not how stats work
They brought in 450 interviewees, 100 got trustee last year
This year, it's more like 50, if that
and a lot of presidential scholars are in schools that have december 1 deadlines and don’t find out they have a scholarship until after RD is released
you’re kind of sampling from a largely confirmation-biased pool
Oh yeah
you said nobody you know got a trustee scholarship
I wish i got some scholarship moneys raaaaah
This is the first year they've given 6k scholarships to interviewees
a lot of trustee scholarships are given with december 1 deadline schools
my nmsq money 😔
that is confirmation bias
i mean that can be true
but the director scholarship thingy when before it was 25% tuition
can also be true
Thank gyat for finaid
It's literally confirmed info
real
dude you can send this article as many times as you want that does not change the fact that december 1 deadline schools have a lot of trustee scholarships
morning trojan is speculative at best let's be clear
not the most quality reporting sometimes
do you know what confirmation bias is
I mean the fact that we've already seen them reduce the dean scholarships to 6k scholarships is telling enough
The director scholarship flat out didn't exist before this year
yeah that is my opinion
but what can you do
Yea what I didn't even know it was a option to get that low of a scholarship
obv most scholarships are not out yet as quinn was saying
bc its portfolio majors that get those a lot
And that doesn't change the fact that students are getting lower scholarship amounts overall
3/8 people in my major and year have trustee lol
yeah that's fair right
but the mere existence of the 6k
in merit interviews is like
weird
i’m not saying that the 6k isn’t weird
since before the threshold was 25% tuitoin
That's a 14k decrease
And if tuition gets more expensive
oh do you think there are going to be more trustees out in next few weeks than the 6ks?
When*
thats fair
i’m just saying that pointing to the fact that nobody you know got a scholarship that only 100 people get isn’t really indicative of much
yea everyone in sda i know with a scholarship has presidential or trustee
I'm in group chats with around 500 EA students
Not one has said they've gotten trustee
500 ea students is literally almost a sixth of the total number admitted
you’re ignoring the fact that there are swaths of students eligible for scholarships who don’t find out their decision for almost two weeks
and a lot of those students get scholarships too
like % wise i bet more sda sca people have scholarships than dornsife or something
There are group chats?
I'm not saying they're not giving any trustee scholarships, but if they've cut the amount of NMSF scholarships, and cut the amount that the trustee scholars finalists get—that's setting a precedent
Really? I'd have figured it'd be the other way around—specifically with SCA
you have to be academically and artistically admitted into portfolio schools
These scholarships exist to entice students to enroll, I don't think extra incentives are needed as much for the #1 film school in the country vs. a decent but not incredible arts and sciences college
you clearly don’t know how artistic admissions work lol
And how do they work?
once you see the quality of sda/sca
even thornton
it makes sense
they admit very small classes
a lot of roski too
you’re in marshall
yeah
Can i secretly make a small pond tub hidden in a secret spot on usc campus
it's not the same
Or will i get expelled
It's a joint degree as of 2 years ago
like a koi pond
And it's a sub 5% acceptance rate program
you didn’t go through the artistic application process
administratively it's marshall
More small like a guppy pond
bottom line
and the app process for bca is nowhere near the theater or acting or game art stuff
bc there's no portfolio
or audition if you're thornton
Oh yeah, that very much is true, IK that
But my point is
The scholarships are incentives for top students—students that'll likely get into better schools than USC—to come to USC
There's literally no other reason to give these scholarships
these programs take very few students and operate on a scale so small that they need about 50-75% of their admitted students to enroll or else the major is at a large financial deficit because arts programs are incredibly expensive to run. that’s why most great programs are at R1 institutions because the schools can afford to run them. usc doesn’t have a waitlist so they can’t rely on that. they need students to enroll and the best way to make sure of that is to give them money
And if someone's putting in the effort to prepare a whole five minute short film or an original 10 pages of script or what have you to the top film school in the country—the odds are it's probably their first choice already
no
thats how the process is for every school
The only other undergrad programs which cut even close to SCA's value as a film program are UCLA (a much smaller major) and NYU (which appeals to a completely different market)
you’re talking to someone who is in a fine arts major, who went through the application process, who knows how these programs do admissions because i’m now helping with new students
and?
thats still the film school application process
for every school
regardless of their rank
because you need to show the ability to make films to get into film school
aww that’s so sweet thank you for saying that
but I do feel like I could’ve done way better now
I think that feeling will always be natural though
And there's half a dozen theater programs better than USC
SDA is incredible, but SCA is the undisputed champion of its industry
there's always something
keep your head up
Same 😭
SDA might want to give scholarships to dissuade a student from Northwestern, Yale, Carnegie Melon, Columbia, NYU, or UCLA
Meanwhile SCA is only competing for students with two of those schools
you’re really indicating that you don’t know much about theatre programs because several of these only have MFAs
and usc’s MFA in acting is free
as well as yale
I admittedly don't know as much about the theater admissions—but I do about film
and sda is massive in terms of working in the film industry. it is in fact the #1 choice for many people who want to work in film and television. you’re speaking about something you really do not understand
But yale offers undergrad theater, Northwestern does, carnagie Mellon does, Columbia offers it through Barnard, NYU does, and UCLA does
that’s not how it works lmfao
the people going for BFA programs do not care about BA programs at schools where they won’t be prioritized because of the MFA program
Makes sense—it's the same way for Film
A school like Northwestern is garbage for film undergrad but incredible for theater
northwestern is one of the only BAs in theatre that are comparable in outcome to BFAs
you’re trying to debate me about a process i spent four years preparing for and am now helping operate
I mean ultimately I wasn't trying to debate you on it—I was trying to comfort Nor on the fact that they didn't get a lot of merit aid by saying that I've seen a lot of students get ripped off like them, and you chose to start an argument
And now we're falling into a rabbithole back-and-forth about one stat from one part of the previous argument
And it's not really accomplishing anything on either side
So we might as well call it quits
i said that you not knowing anyone who received a trustee scholarship isn’t the most statistically accurate statement because a lot of trustee scholarships are given to admits from schools with december 1 deadlines
i said that as someone in a school with december 1 deadlines who knows many, many people with those scholarships
and you continued to debate me on it
And that—flat out wasn't even the relevant part of what I was saying to them, that was an offhand comment tacked on at the end
dude i’m not debating you about this
The important part is that, for the first time in history, Finalists are getting 6k when that was never even mentioned as an option
Which is flat-out true
The number of students getting a full ride, whether 50, 100, or 0, doesn't really change the fact that the bulk of students are getting a lot less aid than they were promised
not to sound like an asshole but nobody is promised a scholarship
it’s not
The finalists getting interviewed historically have been, though
the minimum that students who did the interview process would get was always dean's
but framing it as usc taking money from students that was already promised to them isn’t accurate
And the students that were rejected from participating in the finalist round this year were given deans
And you can say what you want about confirmation bias and representative samples, but now 14 students with a 6k scholarship and zero with a dean's scholarship is a telling pattern
Yes, exactly
Yet the students supposedly more competitive students ended up getting less than those students
i don’t really see what this has to do with the concept that people were “promised” scholarships
If someone comes in, hearing that historically, everyone who has gotten an interview has gotten the dean's scholarship, and they come out of the interview with a worse scholarship—it's natural they might blame themselves
By sharing with them, "no, don't worry, you're not the only one who got this lesser amount"—they don't feel as bad about their own ability, or about how their interview went (which they shouldn't, they're still wildly successful to have even gotten one in the first place)
yea so again i’m not understanding what that has to do with this
yo @strong monolith did you ban them
Is there grade inflation? Cuz my friend said getting above a 3.5 is usually rlly difficult (she’s in a huge public uni though)
the marshall curve has gotten nicer past few years i think the average is 3.5 now
used to be 3
i think it's bc of the marshall dean being from wharton and just making it easier to get good grades
So doing internal transfer from LSA to marshall is possible? I’ve been considering (not fully sure) switching to finance or accounting from biology. Ik usc is super competitive for those majors so not sure if its worth it even if i get accepted (like if i decide to switch is that feasible)
Bro probs left on their own
yeah i actually did it myself then switched back to las
Damn
the easier way would be to declare econ when you get here bc they take everyone and then transfer from econ
Hmmm okay
just tell your advisor you want to transfer to econ, make a plan where you do 3 GEs and 351, then once the switch happens you can apply to marshall the next semester once you get 351 final grade
ez pz
Got it
What major r u now?
usc is nex friday right
u switched from econ to smth in marshall back to econ?
26th march
yes
biggest reason was i could finish bachelors in 3 years vs 4
among others
oh 26th confirmed?
yes
okay thanks
Wait actually? I thought econ is typically considered more difficult n would take a full 4 years
Compared to majors like accounting
that guy was kinda annoying tbh
i'm in the ba which only has 46 major units
plus ge
marshall has a gazillion more
and imo the classes are not harder they actually cover less, it's just that they have a lot more theory than most of the marshall classes so people find it harder
that's just my opinion
of course everyone has their own thoughts
the marshall fin emphasis is 60 major units btw
the ba does have the foreign language requirement but i tested out of that which is why it's just 46 for me
Makes sense, do yk if there is a huge difference between ba econ and bs in terms of internship opportunities/job opportunities?
uhh depends on industry
i can tell you i've had my internship for this summer since november
which is in finance, public markets am stuff
wow
what are you looking at?
Tbh idk yet, i used to be 100% sure about biology specifically research but recently i’ve been wanting to switch. And smth in the finance field looked interesting. I’m still trying to understand what opportunities r there if i switch
makes sense
you have the ib consulting pe vc
there's big 4 accounting tax stuff
there's markets which is like asset management (me), risk, s&t
wealth management
fp&a
a few of those it would definitely be better to have marshall bc network is pretty important but definitely not impossible
This is what i’ve been looking as of now since i’ve spoken to some family members who r doing this. Ik IB isn’t for me. Have to look into the others
yeah i'm in the same boat i never wanted ib
i do know some people in big 4 rn who are accounting/fin
one guy is doing pe now but he was at deloitte last summer
leventhal is pretty good about careers and keeping you on top of the recruiting cycle i'd say
i'm an accounting minor so i do go to some of the stuff sometimes even if i'm not super interested in big4
Thats nice, thought they’d restrict it to marshall students/accounting majors. So worst case scenario (i always plan for this) even if i can’t transfer into marshall its still a possibility to get good internships n jobs just might be limited to certain fields right?
i wouldn't say limited bc you can go into any of these fields as econ
it just might be harder bc network, no "marshall" keyword on your resume etc
Fair
tbh i credit everything i know to a club i joined here and very little to econ vs buad fin
Club name? If i get accepted i’ll try joining
i might be in that promo video that they have now
Cool
did i just dox myself 😶
Maybe lmao (as one of the many in the vid)
ok i just checked i am in the vid
but not as one of those getting interviewed
saved
but yeah i am in research now and rlly the things you learn sitting in watching some of these ib analysts nerd out about pitches is pretty crazy
do you know how often people get in for their alternate major
🙋♂️
idk the % but it's doable
okay sweet
if i get into dornsife for my alternate major but i had a major in marshall as my top choice, how easy is to transfer into marshall before the school starts
before classes idk
i'd imagine pretty hard
but once you start you can do the internal transfer i was just talking about it here
oh i see
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