Cornell University (2024-2025)

[warm ore]

i didn't think id be going to a UC so i just bullshit picked my majors

😭

my 2nd choice for berkeley was L&S mcb but i got my first choice so im stuck here

[mortal sable]

Ohh

[mortal sable]

Can’t you switch rn

[warm ore]

idts

i think you need to wait at least 1 sem

[mortal sable]

That’s so weird

[warm ore]

theres like reqs you need to do to switch

its so dumb

[tame sandal]

He was a junior

[warm ore]

my friend's friend has two sisters that went to berkeley

[mortal sable]

Wild

[tame sandal]

Cornell u have to wait a year

Before transferring

…

[warm ore]

the smarter one went to coc for my major and the less smarter one went to L&S mcb but the less smarter one ended up going to jhu med and the smarter one gave up cuz coc 😭

[tame sandal]

Actually screwed me

[mortal sable]

Oh dang

[warm ore]

ic

[mortal sable]

For us you have to wait a quarter 💀

[warm ore]

the major i applied to cornell in the first place is good for premed so im probably gonna stay

[tame sandal]

Can u like

Pause with the good for premed shit

[mortal sable]

Do you like the major

[tame sandal]

And start more of the

I rlly like this subject

[warm ore]

LOL 😭

[mortal sable]

Real

[warm ore]

i rly like the major i picked

[tame sandal]

I rlly like this volunteering opportunity

[warm ore]

🔥

i think i did nutritional sciences

[tame sandal]

Yeah thats what u told me

😭

[warm ore]

im fine w it cuz it has all the bio and chem stuff but idt it goes hella into depth like a pure chem major or a pure bio major

[tame sandal]

Ur major doesnt have to include ur premed reqs

[warm ore]

ik but i just like the major i picked

[tame sandal]

And it doesnt have to expand on them either

[warm ore]

i can probably get a job whether or not i pursue med

[tame sandal]

Premed reqs r fake news

[warm ore]

wdym?

[tame sandal]

Barely use what u learn for mcat and in classes in actual med school

[warm ore]

oh thats what you meant

lol doesn't that go for most jobs

[tame sandal]

My fallback if not premed is probably like

Paramedic

[warm ore]

i heard that the stuff you do in college for engineering isn't even used in the actual jobs

[warm ore]

thats still cool

[tame sandal]

Maybe graphic design

[tame sandal]

Cool but shit pay

Lol

[warm ore]

yeah 😭

im thinking maybe pharmacist if i dont go to med school

pharmacist is separate right

[craggy thunder]

yah

[tame sandal]

Yeah

[craggy thunder]

pharmacy you can apply without BS

[warm ore]

thats so nice

[mortal sable]

My fall back is to do a 36O and go into management

[warm ore]

ill make the next pfizer and be a billionaire

[craggy thunder]

i think you can apply affter 2 years of undergrad

[mortal sable]

Or take a year and go into vet med

[warm ore]

my friend's dad owns some pill company and dudes stacked

i wanna be like him if i fail med lmao

[tame sandal]

PA is also a valid fallback

For premeds

Less school, less cost, same job

[warm ore]

is that the diagnosing person

i just googled it 💀

[tame sandal]

PA is literally

They do the same thing

As doctors

[warm ore]

but theyre just not called doctors

[tame sandal]

But they dont have like OT as much/oncall

[warm ore]

oh

[mortal sable]

They’re physician assistants

[tame sandal]

And they can be reassigned

[warm ore]

do they get paid well lol

[tame sandal]

And choose their unit

[mortal sable]

Very

[tame sandal]

Decently but not as well as md

[warm ore]

is there a separate school for PA?

[tame sandal]

Yeah

[mortal sable]

Yes

[warm ore]

oo

interesting

theres a lot of options

i didn't even know

[tame sandal]

Its like the same thing as being a doctor

But without the degree

[warm ore]

thats fine w me lol

[tame sandal]

When i shadowed, the PAs did the same shit as the MDs

[warm ore]

id be happy w that as plan B

[tame sandal]

😭

[mortal sable]

You can refer and everything

[warm ore]

ig the only real difference is pay

💀

[tame sandal]

Yeah

And the fact that PA is less

Like

Intense

I was talking to a friend who is pre-PA

[warm ore]

hmm

[tame sandal]

And he was like

When u clock out

[mortal sable]

Ohysical therapist is another option too

[tame sandal]

Ur done done

But for doctors u have like

Sitting cases

Or on call

[warm ore]

🔥

[tame sandal]

And etc

[warm ore]

the big goal is obviously to be a doctor but i think PA as plan B would be nice for me too

i didn't even know that was a thing

[tame sandal]

Do keep in mind its its own profession

And not just

Premed core

It is separate.

And should be treated as such

[warm ore]

are there completley different requirements?

[tame sandal]

No

[warm ore]

oh

[tame sandal]

https://prehealthadvising.cornell.edu/academic-preparation/

[warm ore]

ok ill look at that

[mortal sable]

I had another question sorry

[tame sandal]

Ya

[mortal sable]

Can you count high school non clinical volunteering hrs or nah

[tame sandal]

Yeah

But you should have other stuff

[mortal sable]

Yeah fs

[tame sandal]

The activities section has like

15 slots

[mortal sable]

If you continue it in college it’s ok right

[mortal sable]

Dang

That’s a lot

[tame sandal]

Def

[tame sandal]

Not when it includes ur nonclin, research, clinical, jobs, clubs

😭

[mortal sable]

Great ty

[mortal sable]

Valid 😭

Hmm I need to plan out what first quarter will look like

[tame sandal]

All i did first sem was look at every club at club fair and start research

[mortal sable]

That’s still a lot

[mortal sable]

Oh Jae

Thoughts on premed sororities and frats?

[tame sandal]

Some r toxic asf

It gets u mentors, peers that are premeds

And gets u their study resources

And some have discounts on the kaplan mcat books

If u risk toxicity go ahead

Listen to the ppl who were in them or tried rushing

Theyll say which r the toxic ones

[mortal sable]

Hmm ok

Ty!

[tame sandal]

Ik one thats like

Nontoxic at corn

But im not rushing

Even tho i could get in

Idk i cba

Dont have the time

[mortal sable]

Ohh

[proven crane]

sorry this is not related to anything at all but the dog in ur pfp is SO cute.

[mortal sable]

Ty!! His name is Cheerio

[lyric gyro]

get ready to get some hate as a PA btw

[proven crane]

stop ill cry 😭

[warm ore]

the thing is i did it in high school but on the actual paper it shows berkeley

idk if that makes a difference?

[tame sandal]

You didnt read the screenshot

[warm ore]

i did

a lil bit

😆

[warm ore]

the thing is for my research i lowk just piggybacked off a researcher i know

like i didnt do the whole thing myself

[tame sandal]

Were they first

Or last

[warm ore]

like the author name order on the paper?

[tame sandal]

Yeah

[warm ore]

they were first obviously

i came after them

[tame sandal]

Then its fine ppl know u did like nothing

😭

But that was the whole pt

[warm ore]

😭

[tame sandal]

If u read biggreens last msg

[warm ore]

nooooo

i was the third author on it

[tame sandal]

Yeah

That doesnt help

That makes it worse

[warm ore]

NOOOOO

[tame sandal]

Its supposed to be ordered by biggest impact

[warm ore]

do i need to be the first on the list

[tame sandal]

To lowest

Then last is like mentor

[warm ore]

its 5 authors and i was 3rd

[tame sandal]

First author is best yeah

And the fact that u dont know that

Shows me any research youve done

Is bullshit

When u say publish a paper

You mean publish novel ideas

New facts

Data you found

[warm ore]

yeah

data we found

thats the right description

[tame sandal]

Yeah

But u just told me u didnt do anything

So

Dont act like u did something

[warm ore]

idk i think one of the papers was actually used for some stuff at a hospital

[tame sandal]

U dont gotta lie to us

[warm ore]

but i piggybacked off

[tame sandal]

Lie to admissions

[warm ore]

i did some work but obviously i didn't like go in the lab and find a new virus or something

ill obviously do new stuff at college and il ljust put the stuff i did already at the end just as extra

thats probably the right move i suppose

[bronze egret]

😭

[warm ore]

yes

i just did wtv the main researcher asked me to do and i got put in

💀

[bronze egret]

Lol

[queen grotto]

typically not unless you continue the activity while in undergrad. There are 15 slots for activities and 3 that are designated "most important". These slots will fill up quickly, as you will include things such as artistic activities (music, visual art, etc), each club that you participate in, TA jobs, and any other non-clinical activities/community service that you might do during undergrad. This is not even counting the slots you will use for research and clinical hours. In the end, you will likely forgo putting any high school community service on the AMCAS application willingly rather than any other reason.

[queen grotto]

PAs are able to see patients, but like NPs, nurses, and techs, they must practice under the supervision and license of an attending physician. In some states they can work independently and function as essentially a family medicine general practitioner. In the hospital, they function as essentially eternal MS4s/interns, which for certain wards is invaluable (ED, stroke, and clinic work, mostly) to take work off the already overworked staff.

officially, absolutely no and how dare you. unofficially, if this person is a professor or well respected attending, your chances are boosted. Even more unofficially, if your father is on the adcom and then refuses to leave the room when your profile comes up for discussion, then you're 100% in. And no, that last thing DEFINTELY did not happen.

[mortal sable]

I see, I plan on continuing the activity during undergrad which is why I was wondering if I could count the hours from high school

[mortal sable]

Oh my, thank you for the information. Can someone even refuse to leave the room? Wouldn’t that be a conflict of interest?

[tame sandal]

my dad is retired

that still helps right

cuz they ask for profession prior to retirement

on amcas

i think

if i lock weill bc my dad worked there idc abt nepo anymore i am 100% for nepo when it helps me (until i flunk out bc im unprepared)

[mortal sable]

Real asf

[tame sandal]

also guys

EXPLORE UR LAB OPTIONS

BEFORE PICKING ONE

BC MY SECOND

IS SO CUTE

I HATE I LOCKED MHYSELF IN TO MY FIRST ONE

😭

[hasty anvil]

Wdym by cute haha

[tame sandal]

1. Seems more organized
2. The grad TAs r both cute
3. Im actually going to be doing stuff
4. I like the topic more

[hasty anvil]

Valid description

[mortal sable]

Can you accept them still?

[tame sandal]

Yeah im adding this one

I just wish i had had this as my first lab

Instead of it being my second

[mortal sable]

Wait what does this mean

Having a first and second lab

[tame sandal]

?

I have two labs

One was my first

[mortal sable]

Like does the order matter

[tame sandal]

One is my second

No

Just longevity

[mortal sable]

Oh

[mortal sable]

Ohh

[tame sandal]

Like i want to leave the first

[mortal sable]

So you’re saying you wished you joined the second earlier

[tame sandal]

But i shouldnt

Bc of longevity

[mortal sable]

Oh is continuity super important

[tame sandal]

Not as important as im making it to be

But it is important

[mortal sable]

Couldn’t you technically join another lab if you wanted and left the first

[mortal sable]

I see

[tame sandal]

Also the longer ur in a lab and the more time u put in the more likely u are to get a pub

[tame sandal]

Yeah

[mortal sable]

How important is getting pubs

[tame sandal]

Very

Lol

[mortal sable]

Really?

[tame sandal]

Almost everyone has one pub

[mortal sable]

What if you get none

Does that negatively impact you

[tame sandal]

Then u gap

[mortal sable]

Oh wow

[tame sandal]

And do research

Until u get one

U dont have to be first author

[mortal sable]

Oh so one is must

[tame sandal]

Just get ur name on something

[mortal sable]

Ohh so you just need to be on something

[tame sandal]

in my head yeah

[tame sandal]

Its considered ur pub still

If ur listed as an author

Even if ur not first

[mortal sable]

Yes I thought you meant you needed to be first when you said you need and I was like 😳

[mortal sable]

I see I see

Jae how important is it for your research to be related to like a narrative

[tame sandal]

Wdym

Like having a why?

[mortal sable]

Like being related to other stuff you’re during

Because like

I want to do field research

But I don’t want it to look random

[tame sandal]

As long as ur interested in smth

That makes it not random

Bc theres an underlying reason why u have those interests

Lol

Nothing is random 😭

[mortal sable]

I heard that you should try and focus your app on one kind of narrative

What are your thoughts on this

[tame sandal]

I have no idea

[mortal sable]

Oh

That’s what Reddit says

[queen grotto]

then yes, you would count the hours from high school

[queen grotto]

If someone did refuse to leave the room, then yes, it would be a massive conflict of interest. If someone did do that, which definitely didn't happen.

[queen grotto]

on the secondary application, there is usually a space to disclose connections to the university. That said, it wouldn't likely give you a huge advantage unless your father is emeritus or otherwise very well known to the remaining faculty at the school

[tame sandal]

whats emeritus

[queen grotto]

the answer is almost everyone has no publications, but almost every competitive application will have a significant amount of research hours, a proper project with presentations, and a significant knowledge base and intellectual contribution that they can accurately discuss during interview

[queen grotto]

when a retired professor is allowed to keep his title after retirement as a way of honoring their contribution to the institution. It is usually given to full professors that have spent the majority of their time at the university. I have also seen it given to clinical/teaching professors that have taught at the school for a very long time despite not technically being an academic professor

[mortal sable]

ok ty!

[queen grotto]

basically, if your hours are high, and you have a good project, you don't need to worry about publications. What will actually matter is whether or not you are able to discuss your research during the interview, because you will likely be speaking to someone who is in that field and will be able to tell if you were actually acting as a scientist or as just a tech.

[mortal sable]

Noted, would they face repercussions for this?

[queen grotto]

No, because if that ever did happen, he would be a high ranking professor who has taught an organ block for decades and would be pretty much untouchable

[tame sandal]

unfort

[mortal sable]

Very interesting

[tame sandal]

he was like head of his division in the hospital but just an assistant prof at the school

[queen grotto]

if he was chair then it would likely not matter whether he made tenure as an associate, since he was tenure track assistant. What would probably be more important is his reputation at Weill as an attending, which is likely high if he was chair for a number of years.

[tame sandal]

he like

wasnt at weill in nyc

idk

whatever

idk what like half the words ur saying mean lol

[queen grotto]

then you should likely leave unless you are close to the end of a project, as depth is much more important that length. 2 years is honestly already good enough to dispell any notions of lab hopping, 1.5 could probably work too.

[tame sandal]

i feel bad

theyre nice

i also told her i would likel ystay all 4 years when i interviews

interviews*

[mortal sable]

plans change though

[tame sandal]

interviewed

i also told her i was returning this year

😭

[mortal sable]

oh 😭

[tame sandal]

i also do lowkey need it so i have the option to get bio credit and cog sci credit

at the same time

cuz idt i can ask my lab to split my credits like 2 in cog sci and 1 in bio

i also like just got trained

to do the good stuff

like bird handling

[queen grotto]

so what I'm hearing is that he was a cornell professor and an attending at a local hospital in Ithaca. In that case, it would probably depend entirely on how close Weill is to Cornell proper, as some med schools barely talk to their universities and are de facto independent.

[tame sandal]

um

no

idk if he was an attending or not

i said assistant prof

clinical

but his main job was inpt psych

it doesnt matter.

and he was working at the hospital linked to weill in westchester

i dont live in ithaca

🤮

[queen grotto]

an attending is any full physician, so he was an attending if he was seeing patients. Either way, sounds like I wouldn't be able to give you any insight on whether it would give you an advantage. Certainly you are better off than most applicants, however

[mortal sable]

Does shadowing a physical therapist count as shadowing hours?

[mortal sable]

And how many hours would you suggest?

[tame sandal]

The estimate is like 40 technically

But as much as u need for comfort

In a variety of specialities is key

[mortal sable]

Oh ok ty

[queen grotto]

Shadowing a physical therapist does count as clinical/medical hours. However, you will definitely need to shadow actual physician work since you will need to be able to write about and talk about during interview why you would want to be a physician specifically. For example, "I see that you shadowed physical therapy at length, why do you want to be a physician rather than a PT?"

This can be a very easy answer, since you can focus on patient interaction, wanting increased responsibilities, or maybe even talk about how you met PM&R attendings/residents during your time in PT, which inspired you to walk the path of medical school.

[queen grotto]

competitive applications will have at least 100. I would say 150-200 is a good range for almost anybody.

[bronze egret]

Are u a weill kid?

[mortal sable]

Ohh ok, thank you. I’ve already shadowed a physician as well, but I will shadow more

[mortal sable]

Oh wow, that’s a lot of just shadowing. How many clinical then?

[queen grotto]

150-200 refers to any medical/clinical hours, which a large percentage of will be clinical patient facing (watching or participating in patient care)

so any shadowing will count towards your total clinical hours

[queen grotto]

I am not, but even if I was, I wouldn't disclose. So maybe I am/was at Weill, I guess.

[bronze egret]

Gotcha

Was just curious why you were in this thread as a grad student

[queen grotto]

I stop in from time to time to advise premeds and pre-premeds

[mortal sable]

Oh ok, so you technically don't need just shadowing hours?

[mortal sable]

I'm not sure if I'm just seeing super biased results but online I see kids with a couple thousand clinical hours. Is that something anyone should aim for if they already have a few hundred clinical hours or should they shift and focus on other aspects of their application?

[tame sandal]

where should hours be at going into soph year 😭 idk if im behind or not

i do plan do get a shitload of random shadowing done this sem tho

some in suny upstate and some in georgia

[queen grotto]

no, you could be a clinical volunteer at a local hospice center, for example. Ideally, whatever you do, what is more important is that you have face-to-face time with physicians and patients so that you can discuss with your preceptor why they did what or why they asked this question, as well as observe actual doctor-patient interactions

[queen grotto]

clinical hours is a checkbox, not a gradient. After 300 hours, you should be able to tell me about how all your experiences have let you know that you truly want to walk this path. You should be able to discuss how you felt when patients were sick, and how you were intrigued by the diagnostic process. If not, then you need more hours. If you can, then what you have is enough. An applicant could come in with 3000 hours and they would be ranked lower than an applicant with 150 if they couldn't adequately explain what they were doing in those hours and how it affected their want to go to medical school

for context, I had 400 hours of total clinical time, which felt like a lot then and feels like a lot now.

[queen grotto]

well, if you plan to go straight through then you would be applying in the junior to senior summer year (I think, it's been a while). So I suppose you should be around 70 hours deep? I really don't think there's a steady timeline for these things. As long as you break 150 and are able to talk about it eloquently by the time you apply, you will be fine.

[mortal sable]

Oh ok, thank you for the information

[mortal sable]

How complex does a why medicine answer have to be? Could it be as simple as wanting to advocate for patients to avoid them experiencing a negative experience you had in medicine?

I don’t know if that makes sense

[cerulean shoal]

cornell is so awesome guys

please apply

[tame sandal]

how was move in

[queen grotto]

every reason and every application is on the surface simple. After all, every applicant completes the same premed checklist of items, more or less. However, how these experiences made you feel and how it led you to medicine will be, by definition, unique. Everyone will shadow, but everyone will come away from the experience with something different to say. Basically, there is no such thing as too simple, just whether it is well written and whether it tells the story you are trying to present.

[cerulean shoal]

it was smooth for the most part

[tame sandal]

W

[cerulean shoal]

I don't really like the orientation activities but campus is so awesome

[tame sandal]

valid

did u meet lots of new friends n ppl

n suitemates

[cerulean shoal]

Ya

Surprisingly not in my dorm but lik around campus

[tame sandal]

I should so wear my yonsei letter man to move in right

😭😭😭

I feel like thats tooo aggressive

[cerulean shoal]

Yes

It'll be great

[cerulean shoal]

Nah

[tame sandal]

😭😭

[cerulean shoal]

Most non Koreans probably wouldn't know it and just think it's cool

[tame sandal]

It says

YONSEI UNIV

on the back

LMFAO

[cerulean shoal]

Yea like they probably wouldn't know what yonsri is

[tame sandal]

i cant believe i move in in like

24 hr

💀

[mortal sable]

Thank you, this is a really helpful way of explaining it

[cerulean shoal]

woah

[cerulean shoal]

cornell is so awesome guys

u should apply fr

[forest flint]

I can confirm I’m having an incredible time. Everyone is so interesting.

[tame sandal]

I’m not

Uhaul sucks

I’m so tired

[cerulean shoal]

😔

were u able to move in

[lone jasper]

do you guys like cornell

the ppl there

is the culture bad

one of my friends really hates it

[bronze egret]

Yes

I love it

[tame sandal]

I like it

[tame sandal]

Yeah

[cerulean shoal]

Guys cornell food is really good. I spent an hour waiting for ice cream

[hushed imp]

was it good

[proven crane]

what flavor

[cerulean shoal]

this one caramel one

[cerulean shoal]

ice cream was good

not worth the wait but verygood

[hushed imp]

why line

[cerulean shoal]

cause everyone wants it

[hasty anvil]

Based cornell

I love Caramel ice cream

[tame sandal]

bro

do not speak of the food in public

until they reopen shit

the line is only bad bc only one dining hall has it rn 😭

[tame sandal]

cuz its usually offered in like every dining hall but only one dining hall has it rn bc of strike

its usually 5-10 min max of a wait

not an hour 💀

[tame sandal]

u should take the ice cream class

[cerulean shoal]

I knowww

[cerulean shoal]

i've had the urge to eat out every day for lunch 😔 im kind of controlling it but its getting bad

[tame sandal]

im just hungry when shit closes

my body gets hungry like 10pm and 2pm

[cerulean shoal]

YEA

and the bear necessities is closing around that time too

so there's nothing to eat except dorm snacks

[tame sandal]

yeah

im so hugnry rn

idk if i should try to sleep or get a vending machine snack

probably sleep but all i ate today was one ramen pack

😭

[cerulean shoal]

real

[cerulean shoal]

wait thats so bad

i've spent like 20 bucks on vending machine apple juice 😭

[tame sandal]

yeah...

i dont

want to do that

i need to use BRBS

[cerulean shoal]

ya BRBs

the vending machine prices are too bad to use real money on

[hushed imp]

strike good right?

[bronze egret]

Depends

But they reached tentative agreement

[tame sandal]

its over??

[tame sandal]

there are different stances

good for the workers i guess

[hushed imp]

If it’s good for the workers then it’s good for everyone imo

[hushed imp]

Nice

[tame sandal]

i wasnt

saying it was over.

i was asking.

[tame sandal]

if thats how you feel

i do know a number of students and parents against the strike though

so dont disregard opinions

[hushed imp]

Yeah that’s fair people are paying a lot of money

[bronze egret]

In a week or two

If Union agrees

[cerulean shoal]

Strike is over 🫡

[cerulean shoal]

this

[cerulean shoal]

i want apple juise

[hasty anvil]

Same

I haven't had fruit juice in so long and that comment is making me crave it lmao

[cerulean shoal]

we have this really good brand of local apple juice here

its so good

its the only thing i get with my cornell currency

[hasty anvil]

Lmao that's actually so fair

Good apple juice is amazing

Another point in Cornell's favor

[daring whale]

do DTI and AppDev have a rivalry or smth? lmao i remember seeing some posts like that on the subreddit

[rare reef]

anyone go to cornell? if so, what are some cool cs/ece adjacent courses or research I could look at?

[rare reef]

Maybe some research involving robotics or bioengineering

[forest flint]

ORIE and IS are cs adjacent. Not related to robotics or bioengineering tho.

[bronze egret]

Hundreds of courses and research

[cerulean shoal]

Guys cornell has the best food ever

Morrison is incredible

[hushed imp]

what do you consider good food

[bronze egret]

Cornell is genuinely good

Second best dining hall in the country

Obv dining hall food but could be way way worse

[hushed imp]

what do you normally eat

[bronze egret]

Uhh depends a lot lmao

Depends whenever I’m free to eat

Usually like 1am

[hushed imp]

spill the tea

what u eat

like last night

[bronze egret]

I was out last night

So nothing LMAO

[hushed imp]

bruh

last meal u ate

[bronze egret]

Bacon grilled cheese

And friend had stir fry

[hushed imp]

freshman 15

[bronze egret]

Freshman 15 isn’t bc of food lmao

[hushed imp]

what is it from

[bronze egret]

The other thing people consume a lot in college

That has a shit ton of calories

[hushed imp]

ice cream?

[bronze egret]

😭

[hushed imp]

energy drink?

[bronze egret]

Bro is ready for college

Shit u drink when at parties

Not naming it here

[hushed imp]

oh

[bronze egret]

But just watch that stuff and you don’t gain weight

[hushed imp]

in miami everyone loves kirkland vodka

[bronze egret]

Disgusting

[hushed imp]

ikr

[bronze egret]

Also 100 calories in a shot of vodka

Adds up quickly

[hushed imp]

100 in a shot???

wtf

damn i better like fast the day before, eat then go to party

[bronze egret]

Yeah ☠️

[bronze egret]

U get drunker and more fucked up that way

Not the best idea

[hushed imp]

no like eat before party

like you eat then do but you dont eat for a day before

[bronze egret]

Ah

[hushed imp]

if that makes sense

i dont normally get shit faced so i might be wrong

[bronze egret]

Yeah ur also in hs lmao

I didn’t party at all then

Don’t too much now anyways

Just when friends drag me out

[hushed imp]

i generally dont party because they are crazy like raves where i live

[bronze egret]

Yeah college is more fratsand bars

[hasty anvil]

Being in a place where people drink alcohol will almost be a culture shock I feel like

[bronze egret]

Honestly wasn’t horrible

U don’t have to if u don’t want to

[hasty anvil]

Feels weird thinking about, but I don't think I've ever actually seen someone drink alcohol

Yeah I probably won't

[bronze egret]

If u don’t party or go to late night hangouts with friends, you prob won’t

Tbf a lot of clubs go drinking together

Or to wineries

[hasty anvil]

Also wait a sec

[bronze egret]

But that’s just bonding stuff

[hasty anvil]

Don't you need to be 21 💀

[bronze egret]

It’s college

Slash people start drinking at like 12

Not that it’s good but people have always done it

[hasty anvil]

Lmao that's crazy

[hushed imp]

i mean in europe i had a lot of wine

but thats probs different then college

[hasty anvil]

I think that's the one time I would drink tbh

[hushed imp]

i would say that i have been with people that have used fakes when we were at dinner and i really didnt care

i was the one driving anyway

[hasty anvil]

Cause I feel like their wine is part of the heritage

Interesting

[bronze egret]

But yeah AMA abt Cornell whenever

Need an excuse to not deal with club recruitment rn

[hasty anvil]

Will do haha

I might ask some more questions after I finish up some stuff

[hushed imp]

what is your fav food, if you couldnt eat bacon ( i cant)

like that you can get at cornell

[bronze egret]

Bacon is the only meat I eat

Uhhh I’m a rly picky eater tbh

We have fucking everything

But I rely a lot on that and pasta

[hushed imp]

im jewish so i cant eat pig

[bronze egret]

Only eat one meal a day bc busy as fuck so it doesn’t catch up to me

I’m also Jewish

[hushed imp]

lol

[bronze egret]

Hillel does Shabbat dinners if u ever want that community

[hushed imp]

oh thats neat

do a lot of people go

[bronze egret]

Yeah it’s p big

Wanna say like 200 actives

(Lot of ny Jews)

[tame sandal]

lines are bullshit

[tame sandal]

i like the burrito bowls at appel (from time to time). theyre not like amazing but theyve become a craving

the meet option is chicken, beef, or tofurizo

meat

and then for the main grill at morrison, its stir fry and u pick the ingredients

i dont think they normally do pork

i could be wrong hto

yall

i actually like fucked my schedule

LOL

it was so cute going into the sem and now its lowkey fugly

[cerulean shoal]

😢

[tame sandal]

wait lemme show u

[hasty anvil]

How expensive is food at Cornell?

That's kinda the one thing I haven't really thought about when it comes to colleges

Especially schools like this where it seems like almost everyone lives in the dorms, idk if cooking for yourself is common or if a meal plan is worth it

[hushed imp]

its probably meal swipes

[hasty anvil]

Yeah

But I'm just not sure how expensive it is

Maybe I'm going crazy, but like my state university charges an extra few thousand dollars if you want on-campus food

[nocturne swallow]

7132 for the unlimited meal plan, which is mandatory to enroll in for first year

[nocturne swallow]

I have not tried it myself yet but 104 west is a kosher dining hall on west campus that apparently has great food

[hasty anvil]

Yikes

And Cornell doesn't offer ant merit scholarships?

[tame sandal]

like

outside of dining halls?

so

freshmen are required to purchase the unlimited meal plan

which is unlimited swipes + $400 dining dollars

dining dollars can be used at most on campus eateries (inclusive of a "convenience store + grill" on north campus near freshman dorms and a "convenience store" on west campus and a bunch of cafes and some actual like dining hall style places namely Trillium and Terrace)

but other than dining dollars there are 3 swipes dining halls on north campus where all freshmen live

and like

5 on west

1 on central

if u wanted to u could 100% spend ur whole time here using swipes

if u live on north or west campus in later years, u either buy the unlimited plan or the 14 swipes per week plan for 1k cheaper (also comes with the $400 dining dollars)

u have to move to greek or off campus to have an actual normal option to puirchase for meal plan

[bronze egret]

Unlimited freshman year

But obv that costs money

I do 14 swipes a week now and it’s plenty

[tame sandal]

u are required to purchase a meal plan if u live on campus

ur options are based on whether ur on north, west, or south

[bronze egret]

Ivies don’t rly do merit scholarships

[hasty anvil]

Interesting

Yeah I knew that in the back of my head

How are you guys affording Cornell?

[hasty anvil]

I guess I just need to do more research into if loans are worth it

With my current family situation it would be $30k/year according to their calculator

And $120k in loans is a lot

[bronze egret]

Most people are either full pay or on financial aid

Idk any on big loans or any

[hasty anvil]

Yikes

Maybe Cornell is not for me then haha

I mean they would still be giving me a 2/3 scholarship hypothetically, but when your tuition is 90k 1/3 is still a ridiculous amount 💀

[bronze egret]

It’s gonna be most colleges tbh

Most meaning ivies/t20’s/oos unis

Def look into costs

Colleges fuck over middle class

Also you can get outside scholarships

U just have to apply asap

[hasty anvil]

Yeah I've been looking into them for the past hour now haha

I'm hoping nmsqt clutches up

And then I might have to do DoD work for a few years

All the other scholarships like Coke seem nigh impossible

[bronze egret]

Go for local ones

Stack them up

Apply to Coke why not but don’t expect it

My friend gets like 50k a year from Maryland ones

[hushed imp]

oh i dont keep kosher just no pig

[whole condor]

If I superscirr the SAT for Cornell, do I have to submit both score dates

[bronze egret]

They’ll see it’s superscored for any college yeah

[whole condor]

But do I just submit the highest scores or submit both scores and then they evaluate the highest

[tame sandal]

on commonapp?

commonapp edits it for u

u input everything

and it hides lower if ur superscoring

if u mean sending the actual scores, u do that after u get in

[whole condor]

How?

It only lets me add the highest

[tame sandal]

oh

i forget then

just do what commonapp says

u dont need to send anything untuil u get in

unless u apply to cmu or like 2 other unis

[cerulean shoal]

They probably aren't worth it

:((

Loan rates r really bad too

[tulip cove]

Guys what are the acceptance rates for Nolan ED? I wanna apply for business/finance but I am international and US is kinda competitive for internationals so im thinking to apply for a bit less competitive colleges at cornell

[forest flint]

I believe Cornell has stopped releasing acceptance rates generally. Nolan is objectively less competitive though.

[timid cave]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BsLJlq-9kivdzSSTXjJeZ7tF1B4MarM8b4FYEj0Mykc/edit

I am not sure where they get their sources from though but it looks accurate

[forest flint]

I'm sorry there's no way the eng acceptance rate was over 12% that's insane

[tulip cove]

Ah tyty

[timid cave]

I think Reddit when I was over stressing last year lol

[timid cave]

Yeah take it with a grain of saltl

[bronze egret]

Lmk if u have any Nolan questions

[uncut sundial]

oh is this open again?

Y'all should apply to CALS

[proven crane]

i will be applying to cals 😺

[bronze egret]

Gl bae

[kind flame]

Rly? My school's asking us to send score at least 2 wks before the application ddl

edit: maybe I'm consuming this with ap scores

[hoary herald]

How is cornell for physics/statistical science? And is it easy to declare a double major?

[bronze egret]

Very good

[tame sandal]

u dont send ap either lol

only some schools require stuff sent before u get in

like cmu

[tame sandal]

prob not too hard cuz theres decent amt of overlap

and cas is flexible with the gen eds

[hasty anvil]

What is it like living in Ithaca?

Like how does culture shift coming from a more suburban/urban environment

Also an extra 4 essays to apply for engineering is diabolical 💀

[restive canopy]

I got a 7.5 in IELTS, does it affect my admission than if i got an 8+?

[bronze egret]

On campus or off

Either way it’s chill

[restive canopy]

is Comp Sci competitive in cornell? Compared to other unis

[bronze egret]

Comp sci is comp mostly everywhere tbh

[restive canopy]

Yeah sadly, but I mean like in cornell

compared to other unis

[hasty anvil]

Sounds good, I'm just kinda worried since I've never lived in an area quite so rural

[bronze egret]

I’m not a comp sci major

[bronze egret]

I’m from chicago myself

[hasty anvil]

But I could also see it being fun

[bronze egret]

Ur on campus two years here

Then most kids go live apartment in collegetown

[hasty anvil]

Oh interesting

I'll look into that as well

Are the rumors of horrible dorm food true?

[bronze egret]

Yeah it’s no diff from any other uni in a collegetown

The dorm food is one of best in country

So like no lmao

We had strikes for two weeks but over now

[hasty anvil]

Oh ok haha

I heard a lot of complaints and saw some pretty bad pictures online, but that was probably from the strikes

[bronze egret]

Yeah

We were ranked #2 last year for dorm food

It’s not bad

[hasty anvil]

Ooh nice

One nice thing about Cornell being in Ithaca; I bet there's a ton of cool hiking you can do around there

[bronze egret]

Yeah 100%

I go to Syracuse and nyc a lot too

[hasty anvil]

Oh nice

How long does it take/do you drive or is there transit?

[bronze egret]

Drive mostly

Friends with cars or club trips

1, 4 hrs

[hasty anvil]

Ah ok

How important is having a car?

[bronze egret]

I don’t

Someone u know will

Helps to go to fun places

Like resturants in commons or wineries

[hasty anvil]

Makes sense

I'm actually finding myself liking Cornell, it's just a shame so many people are depressing about the school online

[hexed peak]

i like the people here

i feel like cornellians shitting on cornell is just kind of a culture thing but no one actually dislikes it

[hasty anvil]

That's cool

[cerulean shoal]

can confirm morrison was so good today 😋

[tame sandal]

r u aptmenting next yr

[tame sandal]

im from westchester and its nothing crazt

u never rlly leave campus lol

and campus is like never dead

[tame sandal]

i had post-prelim appel for the first time this year ..

tell me why i have 13 prelims but im taking 18 credits

😹

[cerulean shoal]

Which one did u have

My friend n I got post 2110 prelim apprl too

The tacos weren't that good but I was so hungry it didn't matter

[bronze egret]

Yuh

Signed it last week

Hbu

[zealous mist]

Hey guys

I am so confused about the application process to weill cornell qatar versus a standard undergrad in Cornell Ithaca

i have tried emailing wcmq about whether I can apply to the engineering college in cornell ithaca and wcmq and they always respond with this:

technically even if you're applying to premed in Cornell you still apply to any of the colleges, you only apply to Weill Cornell in Ithaca when you apply for med school right

I really need clarity on this

[bronze egret]

P sure u have to pick one

They’re hella diff

[zealous mist]

help

_<

[zealous mist]

can u pls elaborate tho

[bronze egret]

Yeah sure

I have a friend at qatar

Everything is different lmao

Everything abt academics and social

[zealous mist]

can i dm u

[bronze egret]

Ofc

[zealous mist]

tyy

[bronze egret]

I’m not an expert but know a little

[uncut sundial]

it's nice

It's what u make of it. Any school can be depressing or amazing given the right conditions.

[hasty anvil]

For sure

[lethal oxide]

Hi

Should I send a 1530 to Cornell engineering?

[proven crane]

yes

[lethal oxide]

Ok

Is that above their avg?

[dusty plank]

Math score?

[lethal oxide]

790

[tawny oxide]

What lol yes

I submitted a 34 ACT with like a 29 Math

And got in + some kinda scholars program for CS

[dusty plank]

Ur fine

[lethal oxide]

Oh nice that’s awesome. Congrats on Harvard !

[tepid light]

Cornell is huge

Very pretty (I’m sorry this doesn’t answer your question much)

Yes from what I’ve seen (I don’t actually go to Cornell but my brother did)

Campus is nice

And they have a nice college town

[forest flint]

Of Ivies I only toured Cornell, Columbia and Harvard. Cornell was by far the most beautiful. That was a big deciding factor for me.

[bronze egret]

Campus is awesome

Lmk if any specific questions

[tawny oxide]

Great campus & great food.

It's very nature-y so if that is what you'd really enjoy being in a kind of secluded spot then it's probably a good option

For me, the academics imo weren't there (even tho cornell CS is highly ranked; I believe it is more so for theoretical/research/academia than what I'd want to do like FAANG/Full-stack development/i.e. corporate sell out)

I also grew up in an extremely small town, nature, hills, forests surrounding me and I far preferred to experience the opposite of the spectrum (cities). So I ruled out Cornell, but nonetheless a beautiful campus and AMAZING food! Perhaps not as beautiful as Yale's, but still really awesome.

also financial aid sucks and they wanted me to pay like 3k/year 🔫

Ok well

I got a full ride everywhere else

I'm just poor lol

Though, to be fair, all of my scholarships would've covered it. So financiald aid wasn't that big of a consideration

Oh and I negotiated them down to 3k/year

Originally 7500$/year

But like it's kind of wild I sent them Harvard AND Yale's package and they were still like 'you haven't demonstrated the need for anymore aid'

i was like bruh

full-stack development

i've got an amazon internship this summer

should be pretty lit

talented is a stretch my ass is gonna fail espanol

lowk if you don't have a 5 on a language AP test or fluent in another language also take that into consideraetion ngl maybe that's just me tho

if i had went to cornell columbia uva rice pton or duke they all wouldnt' have required a language req. which would have been heavenly

BUT they would've required engineering reqs like physics, chemistry

in another language

other than english

You just have to take a language placement test in ur language

but if ur fluent yah you pass out

also certain scholars programs negate it not at harvard/yale tho

like columbia/cornell have all kinds of different scholars things and uva

that like got some perks

wdym because sat

?

whats ur sat score

subscores ?

submit it

my ACT was a 33 superscore

yah

wait

hold up let me make sure

yah 33 superscore

32 highest composite

but prettty equal to a 1460

test-blind?

how

oh ok

idk if ur a good applicant i don't think you should worry too much abt ur 1460

well i guess if you think ED'ing to Cornell is your best shot then go for it fr

I am a D1 hater of early decision

I think being tied down to one university is crazy when the admissions process is so volatile and unpredictable + there are so many benefits/drawbacks of each and every university

I mean, tbf, there was never an option for me to ED because I wanted to go to MIT so I only EA'ed to MIT and RD'ed to every other school. Tho even if my dream school was say, Columbia, I wouldn't ED to them either because I just wouldn't want to be tied down in the off chance that maybe I get into Harvard & Yale and I want to see what it's like there, how I like the community, how I like the culture, how I like campus, how I like the people

But the opposite side of the argument is you have way better chance of getting into some of the ivies by REAing

It's way easier to get into Harvard REA than RD

same with yale i think but not sure

i think eding to columbia/cornell probably gives you a significant boost

if cornell is what you want then go for it though

[zealous mist]

its probably because they knew you would pick harvard over them

[tulip cove]

does anyone have Cornell CALS number of applicants for each major?

im thinking between two majors so i just want to know how popular each is or if one is a lot more competitive

[forest flint]

https://irp.dpb.cornell.edu/university-factbook/undergraduate-admissions
Here's all the data you should need

[rocky dagger]

how's everyone doing

[cerulean shoal]

Goated

[rocky dagger]

mid tier school

not even top 10 honestly

yeah true

top 5 ivy 💪

[tulip cove]

tysm

but specifically within CALS, is there data for each major?

or is that not a thing

[bronze egret]

No

[austere coral]

if i have a sibling at cornell rn and i apply ED to the hotel school how are my odds in general🙏

[uncut sundial]

imo send anything 1500 or above no matter what

beautiful, big, and much prettier nature wise than all other Ivy campuses besides maybe Dartmouth

yes, some buildings are old, but depending on your major you might never have to step foot in them. And they're still pretty nice even though they're old

[uncut sundial]

Which majors?

[tulip cove]

Biometry and stats or information science

It’s between these two

I think they are both smaller majors tho

Also they recommend physics which I don’t take which I’m not sure if its a big deal

I do IB DP and the only science I take is SL chem

[tame sandal]

orgo 1

andthen hd 2300 yesterday

[tame sandal]

unsure, probably not tho cuz we'd have to cancel our cornell housing license

[tame sandal]

um

u are very confused

weill cornell is not undergrad

weill cornell is in nyc

different parts look very different in a good way

some parts look rlly modern others look like the old aesthetic and some r just pretty

the size makes that easy

[zealous mist]

I know that

[tame sandal]

u said weill cornell in ithaca

[zealous mist]

but in qatar it is literally a non-major program

[tame sandal]

which is why i said that

[zealous mist]

oh

idk why i remember the wcmq site saying smth like you get a degree as if you are in ithaca

sorry i got confused

but like does it matter tho

ithaca or ny, the question still stands

[tame sandal]

yes

u are not using amcas to apply to weill cornell

when u use commonapp to apply to ithaca cornell

so they may not even know

that u applied to both

[zealous mist]

see like they always refer to it this way

3rd layer of confusion now

[zealous mist]

we can't assume they're that stupid

anyways ive been procrastinating calling them

for a while

but once i call ill update everybody

[tame sandal]

i never said that

either

i said they may not

i didnt say to assume they wont

[zealous mist]

yes yes

[tame sandal]

but ithaca cornell != weill cornell

[zealous mist]

oki

[tame sandal]

that looks like a comment

and not a formal website FAQ

so

[tame sandal]

why dont u just

ask them

💀

[zealous mist]

yes

[tame sandal]

u can email

[zealous mist]

i will next week

[tame sandal]

too

[zealous mist]

i emailed

and their answer

is very bland

[zealous mist]

this is their email response

second time i asked them this

[tame sandal]

https://qatar-weill.cornell.edu/our-story/overview/weill-cornell-medicine-qatar

here is the whole article

[zealous mist]

yes

so it is apart of both

[tame sandal]

they mean u cant apply to both medical colleges

at the same time

eng at cornell in ithaca isnt a medical college.

its like saying u cant apply to CAS and CoE for undergrad at the same time

also ithaca cornell does not even highkey feed to weill cornell in nyc

so no it is nothing like applying to weill medicine

[zealous mist]

wait you can apply to both?

dont you pick one college

[tame sandal]

yes that is what i was saying

...

[zealous mist]

oh

well i tell you what

the policy at nyu is not like this at all, you can still apply to shanghai, abu dhabi in a form of priority list

[tame sandal]

good for nyu

[zealous mist]

doesn't have anything to do with colleges, rather with chances

[tame sandal]

every school is different

[zealous mist]

which is why I was confused as well

[zealous mist]

I understand that

[tame sandal]

u dont need to tell me why ur confused im not judging or anything

im just trying to help answer

[zealous mist]

okay thanks for your help

[mortal sable]

@covert zinc so sorry to bother you but do you know how competitive explanatory journalism is at ucla?

[covert zinc]

Why am I being tagged in Cornell university lmaoo

None of the reporting sections are super competitive, and explanatory is one of the lesser competitive ones of the reporting

You should totally apply to it!

[mortal sable]

wait I thought this was uc sorry!!

[mortal sable]

oh awesome!!

[mortal sable]

it's 13 questions...

[covert zinc]

lol not them being extra

[mortal sable]

it's so extra jay

i don't think i'm going to apply it's actually soooo much work

and so little time

[cerulean shoal]

best megathread 😊

[hasty anvil]

True

[lone jasper]

for current students how bad is the curving

also have you personally had issues with mental health that you are comfortable talking about @ cornell (not looking for details, just yes/no if its ok)

[hexed peak]

depends on the college

cornell doesn't really have crazy grade inflation like some of the ivies (cough yale cough) but some colleges at cornell are worse than others and some are better

[lone jasper]

which college are u at btw?

and how is it there

[tame sandal]

depends on the class too

it doesnt depend on college

imo

bc u can take classes regardless of what college ur in

depends on ur major and what classes u take more so

[tame sandal]

ive heard the psychologists are good

like therapists

and its $10 a session so not a huge worry

on price

[lone jasper]

gotcha

whats ur take on ithaca

in general

[tame sandal]

if u want a city atmosphere u will not get that but if ur fine with like knowing ur area its good

like u can do new things like nature walks or like random shit arnd campus like the stables but that isnt too easy without a car