Harvard University (2024-2025)

[young jasper]

💀

[lunar shoal]

I guess it kinda makes sense since it's literally harvard

[eager sinew]

@dreamy lynx acceptance rate drop 🔥

[lunar shoal]

Visiting a clubs' homepage and seeing "clients" is crazy

[tawdry thorn]

berkeley moment

[lunar shoal]

And they call their leaders the c-suite

[tawdry thorn]

we have a club with a 0.875% acceptance rate

[lunar shoal]

⁉️

Which one

[tawdry thorn]

berkeley consulting

[lunar shoal]

It's always consulting

[tawdry thorn]

real

[eager sinew]

everything goes back to consulting

[young jasper]

what do you get out of being in berkeley consulting

[eager sinew]

also i just remembered this @tribal ingot 💀

[tawdry thorn]

resume booster

berk consulting -> actual consulting/biz/faang type tech/wharton or other huge grad school pipeline is insane

[eager sinew]

i have 0 idea how to build my resume

[dreamy lynx]

😭

[young jasper]

so do l ike 2000 ppl apply for like 15 seats

[eager sinew]

berkely is very large

33k ugrads

so like 8k freshman

[tawdry thorn]

700 for 18 i think

[eager sinew]

tf

18 spots is crazy

[young jasper]

thats like 2.5%

😭

[tawdry thorn]

wait no its 7 out of 800

[eager sinew]

idk how many spots hucg, cbe, or crimbiz have

[young jasper]

LMFAO

[eager sinew]

atleast one of them gotta need a token though

[eager sinew]

boo

i would never eat in berg

trust

[shut cliff]

Sneak peek of berg dinner with @eager sinew and @rugged vessel

[shut cliff]

Totally

Made myself a root beer float to relive childhood

[eager sinew]

my berg dinner

[rugged vessel]

:3

[junior imp]

Is their ice good there?

[shut cliff]

They gave @rugged vessel cold broccoli

[eager sinew]

yes

[lunar shoal]

Looks delicious

[shut cliff]

A2C real life meet up at Harvard

[mint tangle]

The boba omg

[glass dune]

Who’s speaking

I forget Kace isn’t referred to as Kace irl

[shut cliff]

Honestly Idk, I didn’t watch the video before I sent it 💀

[dreamy lynx]

wait no one told me abt this

smh

[shut cliff]

We just met up in Cabot randomly lol

Join us

We’re suffering with math

[dreamy lynx]

give me a bit I got an interview

💀

in 15

[shut cliff]

Oh good luck

[dreamy lynx]

@shut cliff

are you guys still in cabot

[shut cliff]

I’m getting food in berg rn but I’ll be back

[dreamy lynx]

alright lmk when that is

[shut cliff]

I’m heading back to Cabot rn

[dreamy lynx]

alr I'll be there soon

[dreamy lynx]

Which part

I’m heading over now

[shut cliff]

I’m outside science center rn

Helping jazzy find class location 💀💀

[dreamy lynx]

Okay😭

[shut cliff]

The blind leading the blind

[dreamy lynx]

I can supply more blind

[rugged vessel]

I FOUND IT AND IM HERE AND SAFE

[dreamy lynx]

nice

[eager sinew]

lies she died

sorry chat

[shut cliff]

It’s funny how this chat is just us actual harvard students talking lol

[eager sinew]

real we should be bullying kids instead

[eager sinew]

im still tryna figure out what the convo was

deadass dont remember jazzy saying that 💀

[worn helm]

dont say this again

[half maple]

Does Harvard have their housing applications or is that decided if you get accepted

[glass dune]

If you get accepted

[shut cliff]

Why not 😞

[half maple]

So I don't have to worry about during applications?

[molten glen]

You don't have to worry about it no

You won't have to fill out the questionnaire until after you get in and accept the offer

[eager sinew]

do u remember what she was saying bruh

genuinely mad i dont remember 💀

what was she saying i do 😔

[half maple]

Thanks!

[worn helm]

i dont associate w a2c irl

[worn helm]

ngl idk

[half maple]

How do we submit an art portfolio to Harvard? Even as an non art major

[brazen flume]

use slideroom

[potent vapor]

Will Harvard release early notifications on December 12 or December 19

It’s always on a Thursday

[eager sinew]

uhhh

prolly 12th

was 14th this past year

[potent vapor]

Yeah 12th

Because it says “by mid-December”

[eager sinew]

yeah

[potent vapor]

Is this ur rea? @eager sinew

[glass dune]

Yes

[potent vapor]

Good luck bois

[dreamy lynx]

thanks

[half maple]

Harvard says they only like art portfolios with exceptional talent. How do I know my artworks are good enough

[eager sinew]

thanks i hope i get in

[potent vapor]

Your own judgement ;)

[half maple]

Bruh

[half maple]

Bruh

[dreamy lynx]

good luck fam

[eager sinew]

u too, what if we both get in

[potent vapor]

Yeah bro

I’m just trying to be with my friends

[dreamy lynx]

would be crazy bro

[potent vapor]

BRO what if all 4 of us get in

[eager sinew]

imagine if we sit one row away from each other at convocation

that would be crazy

[dreamy lynx]

that would be wild

manifesting this fr

[potent vapor]

Me, @dreamy lynx @eager sinew @half maple

[nova yacht]

what

[half maple]

I'm gonna pray that happens

[nova yacht]

sure buddy

[eager sinew]

he cant read

but also

[half maple]

Wrong Kace?

[nova yacht]

no

[eager sinew]

we are talking abt what if smoof and i get into harvard

[nova yacht]

i go to harvard

[eager sinew]

that wouldnt happen would it

[potent vapor]

I edited it

[eager sinew]

omg???

can i please have your stats

[nova yacht]

i can help u

for a fee

[eager sinew]

do i have a chance

[potent vapor]

Boi

[eager sinew]

$500

take it or leave it

[potent vapor]

Don’t do chanceme

It just hurts your ego

[dreamy lynx]

I will double kace's offer

[eager sinew]

FUCK

[dreamy lynx]

1k for any advice pls

[eager sinew]

$1500 for advice

[nova yacht]

6371 kills on apex legends using wraith

[dreamy lynx]

I'm desperate

[dreamy lynx]

i only have 5k help

[half maple]

How do I know my portfolio im submitting is good enough for Harvard

[eager sinew]

ME TOO BRO

[nova yacht]

and uhhh i’m ascendant on valorant

[eager sinew]

6k

[half maple]

You Harvard Mf using the name to scam the innocents

[eager sinew]

i agree, kaceTM is a scammer

[nova yacht]

wait i’m not scamming

[eager sinew]

but give me ur stats

please

[nova yacht]

look i go to harbard

[eager sinew]

did u have atleast a 17 on ur SAT

[half maple]

I'm the son of harvard's headmaster

[nova yacht]

see

i just took this pic rn

of me

in hazard.

[half maple]

Damn is that beautiful

[nova yacht]

how could i not be in harmard if i sent that huh

[half maple]

Me there next year trust

[nova yacht]

beat that liberals

[eager sinew]

||did i send this or am i just basic and everyone has a pic like this||

[half maple]

Also, I need help

[nova yacht]

took this pic the other day too

munching on grape pizza

a non harvard student wouldn’t know we eat grape pizza

i’m gonna head down to pinocchios

like a harpard student

[half maple]

Are you, flexing?

[eager sinew]

sorry, harvard students dont know to talk w/o mentioning it

[dreamy lynx]

omg suits reference

[half maple]

This channel is poisonous

[nova yacht]

we have supreme court justices from hartiard

ruth ginsberg

but

the law is a precise endeavor

[half maple]

Ok. Harvard students. Should I submit an art portfolio even if I'm not majoring in art.

[nova yacht]

no

i go to hayard btw

[half maple]

Let's get a bit serious here without the jokes. I need answers

[nova yacht]

harmard

[tawdry thorn]

if you think its good, yes

[torpid sun]

that's fine

[mint tangle]

lowkey if you send your port to me i might be able to help a bit?

[half maple]

Making or reviewing it?

[mint tangle]

Helping you decide whether to submit it

[half maple]

Ah ok. Lemme send my artworks to you either today or tomm

[mint tangle]

K

[half maple]

I just sent you

[molten glen]

I don’t think art portfolios help like a tremendous amount so don’t worry too much abt it

[mint tangle]

Yeah ports don’t do that much tbh unless you”re cracked and get requested by an art professor

[half maple]

When I self report my test scores, do I have to report the entire score both RW and Math for both tests that I'm self reporting? On common app it only allows you to submit your highest so that's why I'm asking.

[tardy sparrow]

If it says highest then you should put the highest scores regardless of test date i think

[half maple]

That's not what I mean. Do I have to put in the other lower scores that was together with the two tests is what I mean.

[tardy sparrow]

Is there a place to put them?

[sly orchid]

i dont think so

[half maple]

No. But for Upenn their email told me to self report in their portal

[tardy sparrow]

Oh i see

[half maple]

Idk for Harvard

[tardy sparrow]

Yeah me neither

[molten glen]

harvard i reported on commonapp

i dont even remember reporting my scores on upenns website lol

maybe i confused the url with pennstate

[half maple]

Oh

[half maple]

Cause on common app for ACT/SAT they only allow you to report the highest scores across each sections now

[molten glen]

I'm sure it's fine just do what the CommonApp requests you if they need more info they'll reach out

honestly i never even looked at all this stuff for any of my colleges

i just filled out what the commonapp asked for

[half maple]

Oh.

[half maple]

Did you submit ACT score?

[molten glen]

yes

[half maple]

Did it asks you for only the highest sections

[molten glen]

yah

but it also asked for my highest like overall score you know

[half maple]

Harvard doesn't super score ACT. So idk if i would submit scores from one sitting or the highest like it asks from multiple

[molten glen]

i just submitted the highest

if you get in whenever you send your ACT superscore they get both anyways

so worst case scenario you get rescinded

[half maple]

That is the scenario that I want to absolutely avoid bruh

[molten glen]

its a joke lol

[half maple]

[half maple]

Highest from one sitting?

[molten glen]

2

it asks you for the date

bruh

it asks you for your highest composite, highest math, highest science, highest reading, highest english

thats what i submitted

my highest composite out of all 3 ACT's I took
the highest math out of all 3 ACT's I took
the highest science out of all 3 acts I took
highest reading out of all ACts I took
Highest english out of all ACTs i took

now it just so happened that all of them were from the same test except my highest math lol

but that's irrelevant

[half maple]

Oh. I see

[half maple]

Ig I will do the same. Weird af tho.

Whats worrying me still is Harvard looking at it and wondering why it was super scored

[molten glen]

wdym

I mean I seem to have gotten in fine

Like, from waht I've seen, CommonApp won't even let you submit more than one ACT/SAT right?

There really isn't much of a problem if you're just simply filling out the CommonApp. If they require more information, they will eitiher ask you for it specifically or they will send out a mass email because every other applicant is having the same issue.

Also, worst case scenario, you can email them and confirm with them. If you feel uncomfortable with doing so with your actual email address, you can use pretty much any old email

[half maple]

Yup

[half maple]

I see. Aight.

[half maple]

Did you have to self report your scores on any of the portals besides on common app?

[molten glen]

just mit

and mit doesn't use the commonapp

[half maple]

Ah I see

Ig I am worrying too much

👍thanks

[molten glen]

i applied to:
Rice
Columbia
Duke
Harvard
Yale
Cornell
UPenn
Stanford
MIT
UVA
Dartmouth
Princeton

None of them had me submit them (besides on CommonApp) PRIOR to getting admitted

Except Princeton

Princeton requires an official report

[half maple]

Remove Dartmouth and UVA and that's my list damn

[molten glen]

Yah

It was a good time

Except for MIT which I got deferred -> rejected (my dream school)

[half maple]

You submit them through college board after getting accepted?

[half maple]

You got into every one except MIT? 💀

[molten glen]

Yah

[half maple]

You must be, really really good

[molten glen]

wait no I got waitlisted from Princeton and denied from Stanford as well but I had already gotten into all the ivies by the time Stanford rejected me so I never remember

The way I like to think about it is they rejected me for my cracked friend @glass dune 🙏

[half maple]

Like dang. Must be some president of international organization

[molten glen]

no

don't need all dat

[half maple]

Mmm yeah...

[half maple]

Wish me luck tho... Harvard is my top choice

[molten glen]

good luck

95% of applicants get rejected tho so don't put too much faith into it like I did for MIT

it's unnecessary grief

[half maple]

Indeed.

[molten glen]

a little bit more than 95% like 98% or some shit

crazy stuff

[half maple]

97%

3% last year

Got accepted

[molten glen]

are you reaing harvard

[half maple]

Yeah

[molten glen]

REAing Harvard is way easier to get into than regular decision

[half maple]

Did you?

[molten glen]

no

I RD'ed everything except MIT

[half maple]

Ah right

[molten glen]

but I know just from talking to people here that it is

[half maple]

I find it ironic how you got into all the ivies except your dream school

[molten glen]

Lol

It's because it's the only application I tried on

I submitted everything else < 1 hour before the deadline

[half maple]

[molten glen]

MIT I worked on for months

I started Harvard at like 10:30 PM and submitted by 11:30

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[half maple]

So your saying you submitted an 1 hour application and got in

[molten glen]

not necessarily

I had my interview

[half maple]

Mf. I feel destoryed right now.

[molten glen]

• my commonapp personal statemnet + my ecs + my stats

I mean I don't say this to brag, it's all to say that you don't necessarily have to stress over it as most people do

Though it entirely depends on you. Maybe you do better by refining your essays/whatever over a long process

I've always typed and submitted on everything school essays, applications, scholarships, etc.

It hasn't failed me yet

[half maple]

I see.

[molten glen]

Honestly it's most likely due to the way that I think/operate. Psychologically I think it is just the factor within me that makes me think, looking back on something, that it is all wrong and when I go change it I lose my voice

A big factor that you always hear from admission podcasts/conferences is that you always want to be able to hear your voice in your essays not a college consultant.

[half maple]

Idk if I should ask this, but what do you think is the biggest factor that got you in anyway

[molten glen]

That is where I messed up on my MIT essays, where I hired a college essay reviewer to go over it with me and help me refine it. I submitted it after like 3 sessions and then reflecting on it, it didin't sound like me (nor did it actually answer the prompts which is a little concerning lol)

[molten glen]

idk lol its a holistic admissions process

[half maple]

Yeah that makes sense

[molten glen]

i requested my admission file ill lyk when i get it

45 days or the government says they will arrest harvard

[half maple]

Did you not have your essays reviewed multiple times for the rest of your college essays besides MIT?

[molten glen]

no

not even once

[half maple]

[molten glen]

but thats just how i write tho

like i think any editting makes it so much worse

[half maple]

Your making me question whether I should or not

[molten glen]

oh don't take it as advice

just take iet as an idea that you don't ahve to overly stress over

it

It's a personal thing

Your thought process is your thought process

I'm fairly certain multiple people here have their essays maticulously looked over and checked and they potentially also got into Harvard

[half maple]

Sometimes you just can't help stress over stuff that determines the next 4 years of your life

[half maple]

Ah I see

[molten glen]

Oh I was definitely worried

Probably distraught

[half maple]

I saw how you didn't apply to any safeties

[molten glen]

UVA was my safety

[half maple]

Less than 20% acceptance

I thought safeties were at least 30%

[molten glen]

I was a Jeff Scholar Finalist (and then for some reason they gave it to me in a random week in April lol)

[half maple]

Oh...

[molten glen]

Idk lol

I knew I was going to get into UVA

I'm also in-state so I had a slightly better chance

[half maple]

Jeez. Now I'm wondering if you had a lot of research stuff done

One of those science fair guys

[molten glen]

wdym research

no

never done anything related to research

[half maple]

Im suprised

[molten glen]

never had any math competition medals or anything like that

[half maple]

Make sense.

[molten glen]

infact never competed in any math competitions

you don't need these international thing sto get in lol

[half maple]

If you don't mind me asking, what did you do? Ofc if you don't want to say in perfectly fine with that

[half maple]

I know that much ofc.

[molten glen]

I just did impressive things especially considering my background lol

I mean it is probably above average to a point, but I wouldn't say like crazy cracked like some people at Harvard/MIT are

I should be doing my PSet right now

[half maple]

I only guy I can remember who is crack is that guy from YouTube. Rishab?

[half maple]

I see.

[molten glen]

Rishab

Idk who that is

[half maple]

Thanks for the conversation btw. I gtg too.

[woven epoch]

@molten glen holy crap what are your stats and ECs

[half maple]

It's better not to ask that

[woven epoch]

?

[molten glen]

I can send my stats and ECs if you guys really want in DMs

You just have to dm me

[velvet granite]

Don’t enable them

[half maple]

I dmed you

[mint tangle]

Too late

[half maple]

boss music resounds

[little flax]

i just requested to see my file

if anyone is curious lmk (there's stuff out there already though)

[tawdry thorn]

omg i need to

[lofty hamlet]

Ur ngmi to Harvard bro

[shut cliff]

Wait did they send your file already? I requested half a month ago and they still haven’t got back 😞

[mint tangle]

they will probably take the entire 45 days

at least at yale they almost always do

they really dont want to give you your file lmao

[shut cliff]

Yea they told us that it will take 45 days at the latest too, didn’t think they would actually do 😭😭

[mint tangle]

They almost always actually do 😭

[lunar shoal]

That's so silly

[dreamy lynx]

@shut cliff @little flax I just got my file today

so could be not 45 days

[lofty hamlet]

How’d it go? Were u rejected?

[dreamy lynx]

yeah sadly

[lunar shoal]

How much of a role does foreign language play

Like I only have 2 years + a state award at a language competition; are you heavily disadvantaged if you don't have the years they recommend?

[molten glen]

when did u request it

[shut cliff]

Omggg share

Cabot cabot cabot

[lunar shoal]

Cause I don't want to waste money and time to get basically auto rejected if that's how they do it

Did you guys who got in all have four years?

[dreamy lynx]

3rd I think

[tawdry thorn]

i know a friend who got in w only 2 years but thats because you can't do more than 2 years at my school so idk

[lunar shoal]

Hmm ok

I could've done a third year but I opted to take more math classes this year and last year since I was more interested in them

[dreamy lynx]

give me a bit

[shut cliff]

5th for me, does it mean I’ll get mine soon 😱😱

(This is giving me college decisions flashback)

[shut cliff]

I mean I don’t think so. I only did 2 years of regular Spanish even though my high school offered honors and AP (the requirement to graduate at my Texas school district - basically just enough foreign language to graduate lol). Unless it’s like your intended major, I don’t think it will weigh heavily especially since you said you were more interested in math which of course would take precedence if we consider the whole “spike” rather than “well-rounded” concept

[lunar shoal]

Ok sounds good, thanks!

[molten glen]

of sept???

[half maple]

Do you know if Princeton have any other essays to write besides their Princeton specific questions on common app

[dreamy lynx]

yea

[tardy sparrow]

Whats a file

[young jasper]

wait u can check ur file if ur rejected?

i thought only if ur accepted

[lofty hamlet]

I don’t think u can check ur file if u got rejected

Smoof is in Harvard rn lmao

[young jasper]

thats what i thought

isnt viewing ur file kind of hard tho

it takes a while + they wont let u like take pictures

and have to write down notes

[tribal ingot]

admissions file

you can view it if you got accepted, it’s pretty much a pdf that has the rating scores your admissions officers and interviewer gave you

and any comments the AOs had about your application/essays/ECs/etc while reading it

[tardy sparrow]

Ohh i see

[molten glen]

did you say anything in your email or just email the form

[dreamy lynx]

it said the docs are in my docs section of my.harvard

in my email

and it was

[molten glen]

wait what

[molten glen]

I meant the email whenever you requested it

[dreamy lynx]

I think they were just like we are working on it

[molten glen]

I mean when you initially requested it did you say anything or did you just email them with the form

[dreamy lynx]

Yeah they said they opened the ticket

[molten glen]

Ya ok

[half maple]

Hey uh, TYN, how many scores did you self report to MIT?

[molten glen]

Two sets

[half maple]

Ah. Did they change the policy from allowing you to self report the scores you want ? Cause this year they say they want all scores reported

Regardless of whether it contributes to your super score or not

[molten glen]

I mean

They always say they want every score reported

But you can request that scores be removed from your file at will for both the CollegeBoard and ACT

[half maple]

But, am I allowed to self report only the scores that they want me to see is the thing

[molten glen]

Just report the tests that have your highest sub score

They say full sittings not all sittings for MIT

[half maple]

That's what I want to do too. But people also told me to report everything .

[molten glen]

Not for ACT/SAT but for AP Scores yeah

Do not submit all 90 of your ACT/SAT sittings to MIT lol

Say your highest score in Math is from November your highest in English is December your highest in Science and Reading is in November

Just report November and December sittings

[half maple]

Aight. I'll trust you on this. But juts FYI this is hella confusing

[half maple]

Oh yeah. Ap scores. Oh damn.... I got 2 3s.

[eager sinew]

hello

be active

[shut cliff]

Yes

[sly orchid]

harverd

[dreamy lynx]

Harved

[sly orchid]

hervard

let me in pleek

[lunar shoal]

Can't wait to be yield protected here

[wet wing]

💀

[rugged vessel]

harvbd

[eager sinew]

girl

shouldnt you be studying or smth

[midnight shale]

Harvard

[lofty hamlet]

hravrad

[lunar shoal]

Wait the mascot is actually John Harvard 💀

[eager sinew]

its the color crimson

[lunar shoal]

Idk

Not according to some very reputable sources online

[half maple]

Should I REA Harvard or ED cornell? Harvard is my top choice but if I have a better chance with Cornell I'd choose Cornell

[half maple]

Will a 33 math in a 35 comp look bad

[lunar shoal]

Probably not

[eager sinew]

whats ur intended concentration

[half maple]

Biology

[half maple]

Pre-med

Or pre-health

[half maple]

35 science, 36 English, and 34 reading btw

[eager sinew]

ur fine lmfao

premed requires up to calc 2

[half maple]

Uh. What's that suppose to mean.

[half maple]

Like, I need that in hs?

[eager sinew]

no

im saying ur math score is fine

[dreamy lynx]

your score is fime

[eager sinew]

im just saying ur not gonna be in a smoof level class as a premed 💀

[half maple]

Is that the same for if I get a higher math score

[dreamy lynx]

yea reqs don't change based on test score

there is a placemewnt to determine where you start from

[eager sinew]

and even if u do bad on it u can take whatever u want lmfao

[dreamy lynx]

yea

[half maple]

Oh aight

[half maple]

I know it's a bad mindset but, I can't help but think they'll say my math score is bad bc I'm Chinese

[jaunty void]

I'm curious if anyone knows if it's possible for an east european with average high school grades to get accepted into harvard or should I not even try to think about it?

[eager sinew]

define average

average in a2c and average in reality are very different

[jaunty void]

Well I have no idea how my european grades translate to america

2 is lowest and 6 is highest
I got 5.4 average

Wait, I'm a little confused, it's says it's an A

Let me keep digging

[jaunty void]

So it's 3.462 gpa according to this website

[dreamy lynx]

I don't want to be the bad news bear but I wouldn't get your hopes up for harvard, especially as a hs grad

[jaunty void]

it's alright, I already know that

[half maple]

Uh. 5.4 average is like a 3.6. That's low low for Harvard. Unless your extracurriculars are really really awesome of you have international awards, then you might have a chance that is as low as 0.01% (I'm pulling numbers out of nowhere but you get the idea)

[frail plank]

Keep in mind that Euro grading tends to be way harsher tho. Idk what country you're from but I have a lot of friends doing the French Bac and the rigor in grading is far beyond most american schools

So even if it's technically a 3.5 or whatever, if it's a challenging program it's not necessarily comparable. american schools tend to be quite easy

[jaunty void]

i have international rewards in sports

pole vault to be precise

[frail plank]

Don't worry— that 0.01% figure is bs. you probably have a decent enough shot

at least worth applying to find out

[jaunty void]

I mean, unless I get injured or smth else happens, I am very close to making the height for the eu championship u23

if i get a good place there a bunch of schools would want me anyway

thats what happened a few years ago

[frail plank]

congrats on that

[jaunty void]

thanks

[frail plank]

so hopefully it works out well then

[jaunty void]

yeah, I was just looking to see if I can make it other than my sports achievements

[frail plank]

well it's definitely an uphill battle for anyone, so i wouldn't get cocky or anything, but you at least have a chance

[jaunty void]

in my head I thought "If I work hard enough, I can achieve anything I set my mind to" but then someone said my gpa is too low and that they only accept perfect grades. After which I thought, well is there any way I can fix my grades post hs or do tests to show new grades or compensate in any other way, hence why I came here

And so is there any way to check in which university I would have a chance at getting accepted, which is also a good school?

[young jasper]

if u convert gpa it always looks wack

• diff scales

a 90% at mys chool is a 4.0 b ut its a like 3.6 3.7 at others

if i just said i had 90% here someone would be like woah u have a 3.7 gpa thats low asf

[lofty hamlet]

U could ask here https://discord.com/channels/786557653924708373/954421825427865690

Be sure to follow the format tho

[spark wraith]

If i got a 33 math (35 comp), should I retake to get my math score up. I'm aiming for the top schools

[wet wing]

If ur stem major then probably

[spark wraith]

I plan on doing biology

[spark wraith]

or any bioscience actually

Bruh if only harvard superscored the ACT. then my math is a 34

[eager sinew]

it doesnt matter

35 composite is fine

[wet wing]

For Harvard yea maybe

For some top stem schools like mit and cmu u should prob aim for 35+

[wet wing]

U will be fine tbh

[spark wraith]

im applying to MIT yeah...

only Rd tho

[wet wing]

I mean

[spark wraith]

i had 35 in science. does that make it better.

[wet wing]

Their 25th percentile math is 35 I think

That’s good

[spark wraith]

f**. they superscore ACT so technically i got 34 in math

[wet wing]

But I don’t think 2 extra math points will be that good

That said

If u have time u can retest

I wouldnt study too much for it tho

Time could be better spent on essays and stuff

[spark wraith]

already took it 3 times

note that I took the SAT too. my superscore for math is 780 on that one

[wet wing]

What was rw score?

[spark wraith]

770

[wet wing]

💀

Ur fine then

Lmfao

Submit that

[spark wraith]

yeah thats superscore however

[wet wing]

Yeah

[spark wraith]

my highest is 1490 single

[wet wing]

Still

I don’t think it matters a whole lot

But if it bothers u then u can retest I guess

[spark wraith]

oh ok. I kinda dont want to retake anything honestly. Ive already taken 7 tests this entire year and im so tired of it

[wet wing]

I get that lol

[spark wraith]

4 SAT and 3 ACT.

[wet wing]

I mean it takes like 2-3 hours on a Saturday morning🤷

[spark wraith]

god I hate the SAT

[wet wing]

Real😂

[spark wraith]

but will my score even increase

[wet wing]

U never know

[spark wraith]

I literally got lucky with my science in ACT last time

[wet wing]

The way I see it

U alr have a safety net

Worst case scenario u get a bad score and submit ur already good one

[spark wraith]

MIT also says to report all scores

[wet wing]

Rlly?

Damn

[spark wraith]

they "say"

but allow score choice

So im guessing its not against the rules to not report eveyrthing

[wet wing]

Yeah

If they say u don’t have to then don’t

[spark wraith]

their website says you should

[wet wing]

But like

Yeah

Doesn’t matter that much

They will only consider highest

[spark wraith]

but regardless they allow score choice.

[spark wraith]

they "say" that

[wet wing]

Bruh

[spark wraith]

why do they want all scores then

[wet wing]

🤷

I mean

Maybe to see cheating or smth sus

Like someone jumping from 1200 to 1580 in like a week

[spark wraith]

"only considering the highest" while also requiring all scores.

[wet wing]

Idk

[spark wraith]

btw r u applying mit

[wet wing]

Not sure

I might add it last min

[spark wraith]

why not. if your applying RD we got 3 whole months

[wet wing]

I mean

I’m not a big fan of the school

When I visited

[spark wraith]

oh then dont apply lol

[wet wing]

Ye

A lot of ppl told me to apply💀

[spark wraith]

whats the reason

[wet wing]

Idk maybe bc I’m more stem oriented

And I’m a typical hs overachiever kid😂

[spark wraith]

ah i see. are your ECs good?

[wet wing]

Ye

[spark wraith]

what are your most notables?

[wet wing]

Mostly related to cs and env science

[wet wing]

Startup

[spark wraith]

ah i see.

[wet wing]

Have done some fundraising for nonprofit since 8th grade

[spark wraith]

by yourself?

[wet wing]

Nah

It was someone else’s

But they’re a close friend

[spark wraith]

ah i see.

My ECs are just ok

[wet wing]

I mean they compare u to those in ur environment

[spark wraith]

2 health career programs, family restaurant, 4 clubs, shaodowing, volunteering

and a summer job

[wet wing]

So if ur based in like Bay Area or go to a rich private school in ny/ma then they consider with higher standards

[spark wraith]

yeha kinda. My city doesn't have a ton of opp compare to others

[wet wing]

Ye that’s fine

They take that into consideration

[spark wraith]

The only notable one i know of in my city is this research program

for high schoolers at the biggest research center in my city

i got rejected from....

[wet wing]

Dam

I mean u should still shoot ur shot

U never know

Most admits aren’t like a2c sweats

[spark wraith]

Yeah I didnt do much notable stuff like intern with a professor (tried emailing every uni near me bruh) or starting non profit

[wet wing]

Starting non profit is overrated imo

Better to work for existing one

[spark wraith]

i see

How many leadership roles do you have btw

[wet wing]

Unless the one ur starting is sooo unique and it addresses something no one else does

[wet wing]

Not a whole lot

[spark wraith]

same

I just got one each for 3 of my clubs (all from this year)

[wet wing]

I tried to start scioly club but no one joined except for like 2 ppl💀

[spark wraith]

damn

[spark wraith]

I didnt even start a club. I just joined all of them last year

[wet wing]

Lmao

I joined like 7ish freshman year

Narrowed down to 3

[spark wraith]

But i did try out some clubs freshmen and sophmore year

[wet wing]

I’m not interested in most of them

[spark wraith]

left all of them after that. Joined 4 junior year. stayed with it up to now

[wet wing]

And it’s hard to make one since my school small asf

[spark wraith]

ah i see

which school is your top choice?

[wet wing]

Prob Stanford or Penn m&t

Princeton as well

[spark wraith]

m&t?

[wet wing]

Wharton and engineering

[spark wraith]

dont you need to early apply for one of them

which one

[wet wing]

Prob Penn

Bc it’s ed

I don’t rlly wanna ed tho

I’ll just rd all reaches

[spark wraith]

why not go for stanford or princeton then

[wet wing]

I’m also trying to get usaco plat by December

[spark wraith]

i plan on REA harvard

[spark wraith]

is that the CS one

[wet wing]

Ye

[spark wraith]

and dang. Your school has olympiads?

[wet wing]

Gl

[wet wing]

I do individually

[spark wraith]

oh.

[wet wing]

Rea pool is full of sweats and legacy donor kids

Recruited athletes too

So acceptance rate is inflated

[spark wraith]

But there is still a little higher chance compared to RD

[wet wing]

Not rlly

If ur a regular applicant it’s the same

Maybe even worse since ur being compared to those guys

But I’ve heard mixed opinions

Some ppl say it’s good

Others say it makes no difference

[spark wraith]

I wish colleges were honest on comparing EA vs RD chances

[wet wing]

For t10s they’re functionally the same for non legacies

Outside t10/20 they are prob a lil different

[spark wraith]

thought cornell or columba ED has higher chance

[wet wing]

Favoring ea kids

[spark wraith]

ik Upenn and Duke's only way of demonstrating interest is through ED

[wet wing]

Eh

Without the athletes and rich donor kids I don’t think ed rate would be much higher than rd

At those schools

[spark wraith]

I see.

[wet wing]

They alr have rlly good rd yield

So they don’t need ea/ed as much as lower tier t20s

[spark wraith]

really good. ITs just a little better compared to HYPSM

[wet wing]

Like rice for example

[spark wraith]

Ima just roll the dice with REA harvard

[wet wing]

I mean

U don’t have much to lose

U will prob get deferred

[spark wraith]

and then accepted

[wet wing]

Hopefully

[spark wraith]

[wet wing]

They defer like everyone

Lmfao

[spark wraith]

shhh. its defenitly

But it is possible to get into REA harvard without being legacy or donor or cracked

[wet wing]

80% deferral rate is crazyyy

Definitely lmao

Plenty of ppl do

But they are insane

And would’ve gotten in rd anyway

[spark wraith]

I just gotta pray to Budhha and god at the same time

[wet wing]

I refer Stanford early system

Low defer rate

[spark wraith]

"not cracked" too

[wet wing]

Eh

Not that I know of

[spark wraith]

stanford defers lower?

[wet wing]

I know 3 Harvard admits and 2 are rea

One is athlete

[spark wraith]

sigh

[wet wing]

Other had business making 50k a month😂

[spark wraith]

a punch to my face

[wet wing]

Cancer nonprofit on top of that

[spark wraith]

how do they do it anyway. I refuse to believe they make 50k a month

[wet wing]

I was on rec rowing team with them

I mean it’s hard to lie abt that

[dreamy lynx]

Cracked

[wet wing]

Not hard to verify hs kid making 6 figs

No way u can get away w capping abt that

[spark wraith]

are they all rich btw

[wet wing]

Yea

[spark wraith]

above 200k?

[wet wing]

All full pay

[spark wraith]

wtf

[wet wing]

Like 500k+😂

[spark wraith]

its always the rich kids with the best ECs (most of the times)

[wet wing]

Well yeah

[spark wraith]

prove me wrong

[wet wing]

Parents are well connected

Easier to get internships

Funding for business/pursuits

More opportunities in general

[spark wraith]

also more educated, thus setting you on what you need to do for the t10s early

[wet wing]

Yep

Alr I gtg

Cya

[spark wraith]

I love my parents and all, but they barely speak english lol

[spark wraith]

cya

[wet wing]

High income kids get judged by higher standard tho

[spark wraith]

why do they always have the highest acceptance rate then

[wet wing]

So it’s kind of harder for them to get in unless they donate millions

I think it’s more so to do with self selection

The rich kids that are applying are just stacked af

[spark wraith]

indeed

[spark wraith]

for me i dont think they consider your income in yoru appplications until the final

[wet wing]

Ur area

If u go to rich private school

Then u are compared to ppl that also go there

Who are prob rich af

[spark wraith]

private school huh. I went to a private school once for science fair, and 90% of the studens were white kids

[wet wing]

😂

[spark wraith]

like damn.

[wet wing]

Alr bye

[spark wraith]

Most public school in my area are mostly african americans

[spark wraith]

cya

[eager sinew]

different definitions of cracked

i did rea

wouldnt consider myself cracked compared to other harvard students but from my highschool yes i guess i was

i think the way you look at tour accomplishments affects the answer to your question

[rugged vessel]

what do you define as cracked

[rugged vessel]

of course 35 composite is fine lol

i got 34 composite, and 31 math and im astrophysics...

dont be silly

[lofty hamlet]

wtf thats exactly what i got

[rugged vessel]

and see it worked out for you too

purDub

[half maple]

For harvard too?

[rugged vessel]

Who

[half maple]

You

[eager sinew]

she goes to harvard if thats what ur asking

[young jasper]

i mean u have to have some way of standing out

being cracked is one of them

[spark wraith]

what is your most notable thing?

EC, awards, or smething

[eager sinew]

from a very disadvantaged background, 4.0 33 act and my most notable ec's were probably my lab internship and advocacy work

neither of those are very competitive when u look at harvard students as a whole, one's background matters more when deciding what is "cracked"

[dreamy lynx]

real

bama goat

[spark wraith]

i see

[molten glen]

didn't you make like a 27 on math tho or something crazy

[dreamy lynx]

What

[molten glen]

Oh well understandably bc he skipped a grade so I think he was at the highest math possible he could be in, but he was still under-prepared in comparison to people who had been all the way to calc

It's just a good example that your ACT/SAT score isn't all that important

[eager sinew]

lol yeah, my math score was 2nd highest in my hs and i took the most math of any of them 😭

all the kids from alabama are in math MA which i think says a lot about the preparation the title 1 schools in the state actually make available

[molten glen]

public schools suck nationally fr

tho like im not sure exactly how they "compare" your scores to your school/area average bc im fairly positive im the only one from my school to ever apply to Harvard

maybe its in the reprot

[spark wraith]

how do I check that

[molten glen]

you dont

[spark wraith]

oh

[spark wraith]

but im gonna guess I have the 3rd highest in my class

[molten glen]

Unless you go to an actual good school with an actual counselor (I did not); then your counselor may have those stats

But I don't think they're allowed to share

[spark wraith]

Good counselor as in a school counselor or a college advisor counselor

[molten glen]

Are those different?

Idk lol

I didn't have a college advisor counselor

My school had two guidance counselors and neither knew the college admissions process

[spark wraith]

My school counselor helps us manage college stuff but she doesn't advise on what we need to do or how to write essays etc

she basically reminds us of finacial aids, common app, and recommendation letters

[molten glen]

Your school counselor would be the one to know, if anyone, how you compare amongst your school/class in ACT/SAT scores

But again I don't think that data is actually obtainable and moreso just something that you can infer given the information you get from your fellow classmates yourself?

If that makes sense

[eager sinew]

i know mine based on public info from state agencies posted online

[molten glen]

wild

[eager sinew]

my schools avg act is a 17.5 💀

[molten glen]

Googles generative AI says my high school average is 25

That's from Niche tho

[eager sinew]

yeah niche typically isnt accurate

[spark wraith]

oh nice

same

[eager sinew]

the people using niche are interested in college

[molten glen]

Maybe Alabama is different or maybe your school is just a popular public school

[spark wraith]

My school is SAT dominant tho

[eager sinew]

yes alabama publishes the school averages

[molten glen]

How many students were in your high school

?

[eager sinew]

it took me a lot of searching to find it

[eager sinew]

600

[spark wraith]

total?

[molten glen]

in your class or total

[eager sinew]

yeah

[molten glen]

Oh ok bigger than mine

We had like 400

total

[eager sinew]

152 in my graduating class 🙏🏽

[spark wraith]

mines like 800

[molten glen]

Nice we had 103

[eager sinew]

its insane that ppl have schools w like

6000 students total

[molten glen]

crazy fr

[spark wraith]

texas

[eager sinew]

how tf u even make a connection w teachers

with that many kids there

[spark wraith]

more teachers

[eager sinew]

i'd imagine classes are large though

[spark wraith]

texas schools looks like colleges lol

[eager sinew]

also the fact some ppl have multi-story hs's is wild lmfao

[spark wraith]

mine has one main building thats 2 story. does that count

[molten glen]

? highschools with two floors pretty normal

[eager sinew]

is it

[spark wraith]

oc

ofc

so far even elementaries ive seen has 2 stories

[molten glen]

my high school is one building; two floors with like 10 classrooms on each floor

[eager sinew]

ive only seen rich hs's have 2 floors, all the ones in my county are single story

[molten glen]

what lol

[spark wraith]

but its big right?

if its not tall, its big. LIke a bruegr

[molten glen]

nah poor highschools have two floors

[spark wraith]

burger*

[eager sinew]

no not really

[molten glen]

median salary in my town is like 25k-30k/yr

[eager sinew]

yeah same

[molten glen]

yah we still have 2 floors tho

our county only has 3 high schools, all look exactly the same with two floors

[spark wraith]

mines 55k

[eager sinew]

my county also has 3 hs's but all 1 floor 😭

[molten glen]

alabama just dumb

[spark wraith]

your county seem small

[eager sinew]

yeah 30k

[molten glen]

wtf thats wild

so many people

[spark wraith]

my county has 49 publuc highschool lmao

[eager sinew]

tf

[molten glen]

oh wait

county or town?

[eager sinew]

county

[molten glen]

ohhhhhh

[eager sinew]

town is 3.5k

[molten glen]

how many people in ur town

oh ok

[spark wraith]

our county is the entirety of our city, most of it actyally

[molten glen]

not much more than me

[spark wraith]

wow you guys live in rural places

[eager sinew]

we are both rural southern guys

i believe both fgli

[molten glen]

yah

[spark wraith]

now you make me imagine cowboys

[molten glen]

i do have a pair of cowboy boots

if you are applying to harvard because of grade inflation don't listen to them its all lies

[spark wraith]

even though my city is big, theres really not as many opps for high schoolers as there should be

[spark wraith]

na im applying to harvard bc I want to feel important

[molten glen]

lol what

[eager sinew]

bad reason 💀

[spark wraith]

my end goal for my life is harvard med school

[spark wraith]

calm. its half a joke

[eager sinew]

half ⁉️

[spark wraith]

half

[molten glen]

bruh

idk lol i guess i cannot say much i only applied to T10 schools

[spark wraith]

bruh

[molten glen]

I was doomnig the whole time it was rough

[spark wraith]

why didnt you apply to a saftey

[molten glen]

UVA was my safety

[spark wraith]

even I have 2 safties

[spark wraith]

17% hardly a saftey

[molten glen]

I applied to all T10s and then UVA sorry

[eager sinew]

harvard saved me lmfao

[molten glen]

lol

[eager sinew]

needed full aid somewhere in the northeast and they came through

[spark wraith]

you make it seem like you chose harvard because you had to.

meanwhile 99% of the rest chose harvard bc they wanted to

[molten glen]

I EAed to MIT and UVA (safety)
RDed to Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Stanford, Columbia, Cornell, Rice (this is T20), Princeton, Duke, Vanderbilt

[spark wraith]

must be nice to be built diff

[eager sinew]

i REA'd harvard

i loved harvard and still do

[spark wraith]

i see

[molten glen]

REA to Harvard if its your dream school you get better chance

[spark wraith]

It is.

half the people Ive talked to say REA harvard bad

[eager sinew]

this only applies if ur hooked, no?

athlete legacy urm fgli etc

[molten glen]

Oh I don't know; I've just heard everybody say that

[spark wraith]

whats a hook to harvard. Besides legacy or athlete

Im first gen

does that count

[wet wing]

Ye

[wet wing]

Donor😂

[eager sinew]

yeah but thats not very substantial

like its not a giant one

[molten glen]

I think even without hooks you still got a slightly better shot; tho you're being compared to hooked people so you may have a slight chance of being deferred and then forgotten

[spark wraith]

sigh

I wish American schools were more like UK's

[wet wing]

Why so?

[spark wraith]

less competetive

[molten glen]

Lol

[wet wing]

Bruh

[molten glen]

Then you wouldn't want to go to them

[wet wing]

Exactly

Prestige wouldn’t mean anything

[molten glen]

a2c wouldn't exist it's a community of prestige whores

[spark wraith]

Oxford is def easier to get in than harvard. Not easy, just easier

[wet wing]

Harvard functionally becomes the same as like binghamton

[spark wraith]

even cambridge

[wet wing]

Ehhhh

The thing is

In the uk u are limited to like 5 schools to apply to I think

[spark wraith]

doe sthat include you

[wet wing]

Compared to here where mfs applying to 20+

[molten glen]

idk

[eager sinew]

by proxy its all of us lmfao

[spark wraith]

also, UK schools look less at ECs

[wet wing]

Well

[molten glen]

i knew i was good enough for a top university and didn't wanna settle idk if thats prestige whoring tbf

[wet wing]

I kind of like the “holistic” process

[eager sinew]

it would be hard to find a harvard student for whom prestige did not play atleast a small part in their decision

[wet wing]

Tho it has flaws

[eager sinew]

i'd say near impossible

[molten glen]

a tour group made me late to class on thursday 😦

[spark wraith]

not me. Every time i see someone who talks about their insane ECs, I wince

[wet wing]

Yea but

[eager sinew]

I HATE TOURISTS

[wet wing]

So many 4.0s

[eager sinew]

they walk so fucking slow

[wet wing]

1550+s

[molten glen]

they were pouring out in a huge line to the john harvard statue and i was stuck in the middle trying to get through

[wet wing]

More than t20s have space for

Surely there should be a way to differentiate

That’s what ECs and essays do

[molten glen]

i standby that the sat/act is the worst standard to exist ever

[wet wing]

Eh

[dusty carbon]

Someone from my school got into Harvard Neuroscience and she didn't have any big EC's, i would imagine interning at a local hospital is common.

[wet wing]

I mean it’s standardized

Compared to smth like gpa

Where inflation exists

Sat is an okayish metric

[dusty carbon]

Bro idiots slip into schools because of a standardized test 😭

[spark wraith]

hm i see

[molten glen]

for eral

[dusty carbon]

They literally flunk every class and drop out.

Despite having a 1580 SAT

[spark wraith]

I was a lab assistant and did grunt work at my local hospital

for 90 hours

but that just counted as communit service

[molten glen]

i never studied for the ACT/SAT once and I managed a pretty good score (still below average for harvard standards whoops) I guess I could've put in the extra effort and actually made a perfect score but tbf i thought it was and still think it is useless

[dusty carbon]

I mean, her dad is a Doctor so I don't know if that played a role. She also got into Brown and Princeton so idk

[molten glen]

Had I made that perfect score I would've just lost the actual important stuff

[spark wraith]

20+ Ptests and all i got was a 35.

[eager sinew]

i got 3 exams and an essay over the next 2 weeks 💀

[wet wing]

Zamnnn