#Waitlist Womp Womps (2023-2024)
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can you see your admissions file once u go to college cuz im curious
But obviously more emphasis on college activities
my dad is a prof on a med school's board and he said they don't take
maybe it depends on the school
i'm guessing it has to be at the same place
if you continue
like same hospital
oh then no way for me
it’s ovaa
yeah but I heard ucs don't let you see notes or anything
yeah I googled and it has to be at the same place
vet school does let you report hs though!
vro
WHATWAHTWHAT
Bro with my instate school
davis was a 50/50
a lot of people got in
a lot of people rejected
a few handful waitlisted
UCI in the regular admission round admitted almost no one from my school, but a lot of people from my school who were WLed got in
depends on the school, but for my school i think it would be useless to see my admission file, except maybe my honors one cuz they autoadmitted me without an application and i would like to see if they read my common app essay (im proud of that one)
Yeah
do i need to have my email or nah
yea i mean i don’t wanna see my usf admission file
i know what’s in that
lemme look it up
nvm i can’t actually see it
but trust me bro
Do they qlso not put AO notes?
I dmd you the link you should be able to join without email
I joined before committing
Some movement this evening on the UW-Madison waitlist
CMU finally came out huh
uiuc cs?
its just too late now
undeclared engineering and hopefully next year I can get into transfer for cs+music major
EWiuc
Nah im kidding uiuc is good
Hopefully signs for more to come 🙏
yessir bro what waitlists are u on
UCSD
hopefully you get off bro 🙏
ty
we are getting off our waitlists tg
hope u get off UCLA
I just got off the phone with the office of students with disabilities for ucsd
i'm doin ga ton of shit now so like if i get off the waitlist that's gonna fuck it up
But like
Whatever
i'll go anways
Oh, what for, if i may ask
just adhd
seeing what they offer what accomodations
i'm gonna get a reserved seat in the front of the lectureh all
Problem is its gonna say some shit like "Reserved - OSD"
So if I sit in that seat bro 
"This mf is disabled"
Honestly people will care more bout themselves
yeah yeah ik i'm just playin
Than to care about someone sitting in a disabled reserve seat
i don't mind sharing my diagnosis it's not a big deal adhd is hella common
the peole who judge negatively dont deserve u anyways
Yea fs
i got multiple friends with adhd
Wait but also how does that help ADHD, hope that doesnt come off as insensitive i genuinely dont know
I focus better in the front fo the class cause I'm directly in front of the teacher
Allows the teacher to pay attention to me and me to pay attention better and have fewer distractions
were you the Purdue individual?????
no i was not the purdue individual
oh
no the purdue guy is someone different
Respect the Purdue individual
ruby is typing
Bro ucla is so slow I submitted housing accommodations in May and still haven’t gotten them
ucsd fast af w it
they called me and took notes and gave me a form to give to my doctor
. 🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️
UCSD In-State
🕯️ WL TODAY 🕯️
PLEASE 🙏
🕯️ 🕯️
🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️
ur ruining the vibe of this channel
LMAO
serving the womp womp in the waitlist channel
idk what time UCLA does its waves
but UCSD does 4pm ish
We’ll all get off at 4pm today trust 🙏
Has there even been a UCSD wave recently?
when was rhe last wave? if anyone here rememebrs
PLEASEEEEE
gtech and cmu over, it's been good fellas
UCSD anything?
i think the last WL movement was last month
it might be over consideeing that
i mean if he turned down the offer
and ppl still are on it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
ig
👅
AYEEEE CONGRATS DUDE!!
i never thought i would be going here but i am not complaining lol
Congrats
where did u originally commit again?
usf
Congrats!
Make sure to go through the new student checklist
Yea i gotta do that quick
Congrats!
I also have no reason to be here now I wish you all the best
Just leaving my mark here before the channel is archived. College decisions didn’t go the way I wanted, but maybe it was what I needed. Time will only tell. Good luck to you all, God bless.
Before the channel gets archived, congrats to those who got off, and 🫂 to those, like me, who didn’t. I hope I can find smth to remind y’all daily abt :D
i dont think we're archiving just yet
i never had any reason to be here but i just wanted to see what people were going through
yessir bro
I been getting hella tiktoks abt how to manifest
apparently a good way is to write some in a journal an entry as if what you wanted happened
The emotions ur feeling
etc
Ima try this because i got nothing better to do
it will work
i mean
the best thing to do is js fall in love with the school you’re committed
i fell in love with my prev school before i got off the gt waitlist i chose not to go to gt
waiting for UCSD
When is vandy coming
i'll take ur jhu spot if u don't want it 😁
U wanna go to vandy over jhu?
idk a slight possibility but my parents made me accept the waitlist tbh
lmao 🤷♂️
Vandy is a nice ass school i can’t lie id prolly be happier there than jhu
nicer place for sure
but jhu better for academics probably id say
if only jhu werent located in goddamn baltimore
i think the difference is marginal
depends on what u wanna do tbh
what do u wanna do
medical field and cs
jhu js better prolly yea
Completely forgot I was on cal poly slo waitlist
Welp rejected
Seems like SD is my last waitlist
this is probably true
since the diff is probably marginal i wud pick vandy
im on the ucal wl too
im just being realistic
Aren’t you going to cmu or Cornell or somewhere
ya doesnt mean im not on the wl
I didn’t say that I was just clarifying
Would you go to ucla
idts but im staying on it for now
Fair enough
yooo got off ucr waitlist lmao
into uiuc but waitlist ucr is insane
So selfish lmao
Got Berkeley waitlisted but ucr rejected
😔
😔
it’s called leaving options open
UCLA over Cmu or Cornell is interesting
By last when will we get UCSD decision
day 63 no ucla
No way you’re counting 😭
Maybe the most useless email
I have ever read in my whole life
Not a single one of my questions were answered 
Dang what happened
they are mia
bro deadass they are professionals at being unhelpful 💀
did Cal Poly have a ton of movement
im seeing people all over my school add that to their bio
My friend just got off like a few days ago
They sent rejections too
I got rejected
i got rejected in march bruh
would you pick ucsd over usc?!
it really all depends im praying i somehow get my second choice of EE
i see
instead of DS
Don't worry we're getting off
hopefully ya
bro i got rejected from cal poly all from the start
Fuck Cal Poly
Idk why they rejected me bro
its all gud
Cal Poly and SDSU rejected me I was actually so baffled
my gpa lowk was pretty bad
mine too
damn
well in terms of my school context i wasnt even top 10 percent of my class despite having a 3.9 uw and 4.2 W
so like in school context i wasnt really too hot
bro where the fuck do you go
Wait lowk low weighted
mine was a 4.1 without freshman year
and a 3.6 uw
just a school in socal
so u can expect some competitiveness
damn so sorry to hear that
The one in Irvine?
Yurrr
dude i have a homie who went as well your grade
Wait ur rising senior
my grade
He also got a shit gpa
no i graduated
what his name
he also got a shit gpa bro he got cooked alive
BRO
We did a stat project together
LMAOO
long ass hair right?
his gpa wasnt as bad as mine tho right no way
his dad didn't want him to go to my school
because he didn't trust the education
Sent him to uni
Dude got cooked alive
my school has a killer eduation bruh we had hella UC admits
he's going to ASU for CS
wait what school
i wanna know now lmao
not terrible
thats hella good i wish i coulda stayed instate
hmmm
i think i know one person
idk iyk her
Bruh she traumatised one of my bros
Like she acc fucked him up bad
Gymnast abgs really be handing out trauma like candy
hope still exists
this is a crazy take 
wait how close are you with faith
not at all brodie
oh shit
i don't have her on any socials
ik her friends like some of them
she added me on snap but i egoed her
and didn't add back
Ion know much about her either i just know she traumatised my boy
and she got a big ass nose
really?? i didnt' think so but then again i ain't been paying much attention
is she the only person u know at ma school
can y'all not talk about irls here
I might know some others
like go to dms
sorry lord moderator
🙏
mb big unc
soz mod
HELP same here…
i’m not eligible for ELC cause of immigration reasons anyways but even if i was
oh i got elc still tho
i’m in the same boat w a 3.9 🫡
or smth around that, i don’t know my final gpa cause i can’t log in rn ☠️
update: it’s a 3.913 (huge difference i know wowow crazy)
rip brave soldier
it would’ve been a 3.937 if my econ teacher actually cared about the class
r u now committed to usc
yeah
i don’t anticipate ucsd moving lwk and i hope i don’t get off now LOL
last wl so i think its usc for me
also why did the prefrosh icon change from a dancing dude to a frying pan
because yall went from being Ls to cooking 🔥
haha real but if i do get engineering i might make the jump but as of rn most likely not as well
ty love the positive energy
no totally it depends
LMFAOOOOO
anything from UCSD
day 65 no ucla
guys there was def no movement today because of the crowdstrike thing 100%
Lmao
to those hoping for ucsd and was possibly a ds applicant, news came out that they are combining ds and cs into a new department like berkeley
so school of cs, info, and ds
lowk goated
thought this was public info
It is, but it was just to inform
yea
same
does this mean they won’t flat out reject is what u wonder
cos like
why wouldn’t you reject everyone at the same time otherwise
or maybe they’re done for those majors
"finished freshman selection"
This can't be
i just fell to my knees in walmart
my friend got rejected too
Letter starts with "We have completed our selection for freshman admission and regret that we are unable to offer you a place off of our waitlist for Fall 2024."
did u get the letter?
maybe they’re sending in batches but that’s weird
No i did not get a letter i'm still waitlisted
He got no email but checked his portal
lemme check mine
and his portal is a rejection letter
check your portal
lmao
rolling basis
</3
i deleted sorry 💀😭
give me a sec
yea rejected rip
real
wait is it out?
A wave of rejections dropped unfortunately
on the portal?
wait did i opt into it 😃
i might be dumb
the decision eltter and waitlist faq is all u see ont he portal right?
If it gives you the waitlist faq then ur still on it
What does it say at the bottom
Is there a check next to the yes i accept the offer or the no i don't accept
oh wait im not even on it then
lmao what does it say

….
idk why their portal so ancient
bro on mobile u can't even see the waitlist opt in option unless u scroll down
poopy
lmao
this whole time you were waiting for nothing
for a t20 cs school tahts a pertty mid portal
its fine ive committed elsewhere so
csu ?
@modest hill did u get anything
nah cornell
oh
Maybe bro didn't have to worry about ucla in the first place
but im instate for ucla which would be an interesting consideration
Rejected
🫂
all is left is ucsd
ucsd from DOWNTOWN
i Think they reevaluate as more spots open/close
So at some point you would be a No but then shit changes and ur a Yes
Or a maybe like they would see u being admitted but they don't know if ur the best option yet
exactly
has neu rejected you?
can't really think o fa situation where they would have u in the accept pile but then move u to reject pile
all my friends irl got rejected off ucla wl but me
please god don't let this be for nothing 🙏
Rejected ucla ❤️
i’m not gonna check my portal anymore until an email comes in
im gonna protect my peace
UCLA cooked?
idk rejection wave dropped but not everyone got rejexted
i’m still on it and one dude on CC
gllll
@late stump wait u didn't get rejected either?? this is reassuring af
i want to call the office tho to ask whats up
what do u think
bros clinging onto his last bit of hope
We stay delusional out here 💯 🔥
you should ask the office
im curious
bro the dude straight up was surprised my friends got rejected
He's like "Wait your friends got rejected? That is surprising the waitlist is still open"
like WHAT??? 
He said Late August
will be when it closes
dude was genuinely trying to be helpful but i knew it was cooked the moment he was like "I am surprised your friends were rejected because the waitlist is still very much open"
NAHHHHHH THAT'S CRAZY HOW DO THEY NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR OWN SCHOOL
It’s usually students who run the phone lines and AOs don’t always keep them updated on stuff + it could just have been a rejection wave
Did ucla release waitlist results?
some ppl had a rejection wave
bruh
stfuuuuu
BRO RIGHT
Like what??? dude was like "yeah i didn't think we already rejected people the waitlist is open"
Brother how do you not know what goes on in the office
can’t even deal with this
bro just told me to keep checking my email lol
hi guys lol my brother is waiting for the uc irvine waitlist results to come out and hes p nervous, is there any1 with like some stats ab chances to get in?
uci has been silent forever
The CC forum for UCI Waitlist hasn't had any activity in two weeks
woah
i just heard of someone who got rejected from ucsd wl
for anyone who was looking for updates
R u fr
Where
@silent rune Sry for the ping
When
idk she said she had no clue
😦
waitlist womp womps
this is a sentence
Waitlists truly are womp womps
how does it even work if someone gets off a waitlist this late
like bro what if someone is going to a semester school and they alr moved in but then they get accepted into a school that starts late september
also housing and stuff
must be such a pain
They would decommit from the semester school and give up their housing and probably pay a fee or two
Oh damn fck
My issue rn
man has his priorities straight 💀
nawww she commented on my tiktok and was like tell ucla to take me off the wl too
because my tiktok was my ap scores and the caption was @ucla please accept me off the waitlist
and so i messaged her
spat some game yk the vibes
Wait ucsd actually rejected some?
same
when was the last time they even had movement
u guys got this
i believe in u gang
maybe they're waiting for some people to decommit?
i will decommit if ucla quit playing w me
the teasing is insane
possibly
doesn’t really seem coordinated with how they weren’t aware ppl were rejected 💀
Bro it's actually insane
idk realistically i'm cooked cuz like if they're keeping me on a short list the only reason is to wait for people to decommit
which atp is so unlikely
i'm already ready for ucsd like i did my mandatory training and allat
prepare for the worst but expect the best something something
i still believe
all my irl friends r telling me they are rooting for me
parents too
but i'm happy the way this is like ucsd was my second choice lol
a2c is too dw
thank u bro i hope i have good news to share to this chat 🙏
bro i have a note with manifestations
my mirror in my room is covered with "PLEASE UCLA"
from top to bottom
lol if it works it works!
manifestation worked for both me and my friend 🤷♂️
it will work 🙏🏼🤞🏼
northeastern told me to check my email
Did u get in
me too
gotta see if i need to decommit from ucla
😹
i just got an email from northeastern?
is that a rejection or a acceptance i don’t wanna open
rejection
😔
oh no how will i survive
ucla literally comes out cheaper for me
granted not by much tho
im oos for ucla
still end up probably paying less there than for a priv school
i mean neu may have given me a scholarship idk
what a sick deal
pa public schools are stingy af
if u cant afford pitt/psu ur going to some random state school if u wanna be in state
for me psu came out to 40k a year
lol i rejected neu waitlist offer
i had no intention of attending that school so i said no to the waitlist
Wait what u got in ga tech but was trying to go neu?
no i got a pathway offer to gatech
which is basically guaranteed
so 1 yr at another uni 3 yrs at tech
wait yall got rejected from neu waitlist today?
rip 😭 🙏
yall will do great wherever you go trust its more about your own goals and aspirations than where you went (although going somewhere that is "for you" and "good" also works but theres second year transfer, 3rd year transfer, grad school, etc etc)
NEU rejected
Yes lol
It was so funny everyone was laughing at orientation
yeah
: D
Why were the waitlisted students at neu orientation?
R u serious bruh
Maybe I missread something idk lmao
I was rejected off the waitlist while I was at my school’s orientation lol
And they were like making jokes and all
Nah I didn’t know I was on the waitlist
Wait huh 😭
UCLA! Definitely worse off fr
Why?? UCLA is great
I’m joking lol
Ah lmao
I wouldn’t have gone to neu
Are u in state
Yeah
Yeah I’d go too to the best public school if I was instate
Just like I’d go to nyu stern in state if I had gotten in
Www
NYU stern is something fs
I saw some ucla vids on campus
My friend said they’re very stuck up
Oh wait let’s move to #🛩-lounge-chat
anything from UCSD?
Not yet
got rejected today
did they give you an email
yeah at 6 pm pst
Man I feel like ucsd is gunna be rejection tmr
same
Buddy you’re going to usc
I wish I had applied for structural engineering or civil engineering or ECE to most of my colleges
There are no stakes
its ok whats done is done
you can do just as better at usc
UCSD is ugly too dw
if not more
You’re not missing out on anything
@ atry 😋
Their college system is weird asf too
Also all the terrible people ik are at or going to ucsd
I meant the campus overall but geisel is cool
True
Same with u at Davis
The campus is like very spread out and old and at least to bio part is musty asf
But man ucsd had been my og dream school
tru im not that worried about it now
USC >>> ucsd
Davis is awesome too
Ty but man ucsd will hurt out of all my waitlist rejections
CMU was just unrealistic so I didn’t care
ok but
The wl rejections don’t hurt for more than a minute
Coming from someone who got rejected from their dream school’s wl
True true
Focus on what’s in front of you
you want to go with a healthy mindset to college
so u can make the most out of whats there
Is vandy not coming
I’m not lying
It’s so spread out and icky
Those bio buildings were musty asf
bro the campus is the prettiest one other than santa cruz
i liked it a lot when i visited
honestly all the uc campuses r really pretty
irvine is nice af too
santa barbara is overrated tho im ngl
Different tastes ig 🤷♀️
La is my fav campus
Berkeley is nice too
Sb is very nice definitely nicer than sd sorry
tbh i've only visited irvine, sd, sb, and la
SD was the only one i've done a full tour of. Irvine i live near there so i have driven through campus and stuff and it's nice
Santa Barbara I visited for a bit and wasn't impressed tbh
Than what
LA I visited and walked around a bit I didn't go to south campus but i saw powell and stuff it was pretty cool
anything else except sc i guess
Sd and Irvine are like peak suburbia
L opinion
It’s also so musty
what more do you want
Have you been irl
na
bbro the water crashes onto the rocks right by geisel
Clean buildings
thinker i was there irl it was nice af
It looks different irl
The new buildings are clean
The holdings
*buildings
Sadly that’s not bio
def modern architecture is so pretty
i never saw bio building i'm assuming the guided tour only took us to the new buildings cuz i only saw new stuff tbh
Bio buildings are like at a different part and they look really old
santa barbara buildings are old af
i love glass panels
Until you wake up at 6 am
Because of the sunlight shining on your face
:(
weather doesn't get better than SD and LA tbh
i live in a highrise so i’m lowk used to that lol
SD right on the ocean
so true
LA a few miles from it
Berk weather is best
It’s never hot
Irvine has good weather like where I live has decent weather but rn it's a fucking sauna
define cold
Irvine during the school year tho will have typical cali weather
Below fifty degrees
rip for me it’s like 65
bro i asked my friend's dad who is a ucla AO
why tf i'm still waitlisted
It's good sign
he said

hope is a dangerous thing
Davis is perfect for you then 😭
Real
Me when I read I had a good chance of getting off duke’s wl and got rejected 😭
was duke ur dream school
One yeah
Nah ur opinion is invalid now
Even my uci friend the campus isn’t that good except for that one area that they build newly
Mesa court
I like irvine's campus
it seemed peaceful when I visited
aldrich park is really nice
some of the buildings were kinda depressing though
especially middle earth dorms
I heard Irvine was like artificial asf
The only part great abt uci is the surrounding places u can visit, like Irvine spectrum. There’s just a lot u can do and go out to go with friends although u might need to drive but still
Did you get in?
Jhu is better anyways
Yea ig
Lmaoooo
No way you said ig 😭 what’s your major
We’re done now
Fr I wasn’t going anywyas
Cs and bio
I applied to both jhu and vandy blindly
Didn’t know anything about them when applying
Jhu is amazing bro
Me w vandy
It’s funny how things work
Yeah lol
Out of the 20 schools I applied to I never thought I’d be going to jhu
Just cuz I didn’t know anything abt it
@silent rune sry for the ping, but have u picked classes for ucsd yet
any news on ucsd??
Exciting news!! After waiting 8 months longer than I was supposed to wait to hear back from them, Tulane has finally rejected me!! 🙏🙏
tbf certain parts of ucsd are ugly
like all of muir
sixth is really pretty
omg fr
Seems like ucsd does not want me rip
@young agate don't close dis chat until end of august plzz
delulu is not the solulu
It's the only way to stay positive
@modest hill did it close?
or ur just mentally joevered with it
Joeovered
Generally speaking if colleges are now starting their orientation I expect it to be just over
Due to class registration and such
And even if I were to have gotten off it wud a huge problem due to class registrations. If I’m not mistaken, one of the issues with UCs is classes being filled too quickly and ending too fast
yeah
but is instate cheaper for you
than usc
True, although I may have not paid for tuition,I already spent a lot of for other mandatory expenses just for usc
like what
Bro I cannot get imagine doing orientation at one school and then switching to another
You should withdraw then
UCSD hasn’t had class registration yet I think my friend said mid/late August
damn already?
i start school in august 21
ah
ucsd class reg is late
Well then hopefully tmr
nevermind bruh no news tdy
Bae it’s almost August
I’m tired.
😔
Praying for u atry
looks like ucla wl is out
what
@proud dagger sry for ping, but pls elaborate
unfortunately not much to elaborate
did the wlist come out?
supposedly
or did it close
lot of people got results
when?
for freshman admission or transfer admission?
transfer
transfer rejection wave tdy
freshman rejection wave last week
@proud dagger if ur still on it ucla keeps a short list of applicants on the waitlist just in case more spots open
sadly im not but ty for the info lol
Anything from UCSD?
nope
This is for students who got of the WL somewhere and had to cancel admission to their previously committed university - how do you go about cancelling admission at your previously committed university?
usually there is a way to uncommit on the applicant portal for your school
for me it was just a button and a confirmation page but ymmv
Wow still??? wtf is ucsd doing
You send an email to the admissions office that basically says “haha SIKE IM NOT GOING HERE ANYMORE BYEEEE” but more nicely
no clue what they’re up to
i already paid my deposit to usc but my heart goes out to the people actually waiting on the wl
Yeah either there is a button on your portal or you can just send them an email if you can't find said button
thank them for admitting you and explain you won't be going anymore. they don't really need much info u can tell them the school ur committing too because they might ask
I called admissions and they guided me to send a specific email to a specific person in charge and after they responded it was all good
Some require you to email or call them, others just have an withdrawal form on the admitted page
For UCI I called them and they just said to do the withdrawal form
i'm going to LA tmrw
i'm pulling up to the admissions office and someone in that office is getting pressed
They don’t gaf
Don’t waste your time
i'm kidding
i'm not actually gonna go in the office
I'm going to LA to go shopping
I went in person to accommodations and they said the same thing
damn so they are unhelpful everywhere you go
Right
I legit walked forty mins in the hot sun for them to be like sorry I don’t have any more info like stfu
are you in LA we should meet up i'm super fun and outgoing and funny and nice irl
i promise
I'm gonna go in there and grab them by the collar and throw them against the wall
chat is this rizz
I was there mon through wed for orientation lol
I’m sure you are
i know u think i'm a terrible person but lowkey i'm actually hella chill and nonchalant irl
I would have but it was a student so I was like I guess it’s not her fault but still ☹️ like bro it’s been 2 months just give me my new room
we will be best friends at ucla
Nonchalant irl is an interesting way of describing yourself 😭
i am not nonchlaant i'm gonna be honest
but i am funny and i'm sure we will be great roommates
???
Do you not use he/him pronouns 😭
do u think if i go in there begging and screaming and crying to get in they will fold under pressure
Co ed dorms are where I thrive
Perhaps
I wonder why
Idt the dorm rooms are coed but they def have coed floors
Just get people going to ucla to drop out bam
My friend had a strategy at Bruin Day to act like a total tweaker and spread misinformation so people don't commit
That’s actually horrible
It’s ok just dominate at ucsd
School of the exes
Whatever floats your boat buddy 😭
Mentally prepare yourself
Rejection comes out of nowhere ☹️
so does acceptance!
For me it was my graduation day
oh that sucks
It’s better to be happy by the unexpected than blindsided and distraught he fit
Yeah I was like wtf…
Yall waited till this very day for that
I'm actually very happy with UCSD
it was my second choice
i already am in contact with accomodations office
They are reviewing my case and allat
And the other one was 2 days before when all the seniors go to the river so I was in the car 😭
i'm ready for ucsd but if ucla wants to stop EDGING ME i will be happy too thanks
Bro ucla reviewed mine 7/5 and we’re supposed to send the letter weeks ago like wtf are they on
i just wanted to say congrats to u two for going to phenomenal schools
ya that's insane congrats goat
Oh wait #🛩-lounge-chat
@hot stone bro ucla transportation gave me an $81 parking ticket

this was NOT the news i was looking for ucla wtf
Why 😭
LOL
Real when you see the school name but it’s something random
Coulda said that BEFORE
Girl I did not know you were going 😭
LMAOO
When UCSD will release their final decision?
feel like its this week
all the ucs seem to be making some kind of decision
Fish just in case this channel closes, can u lmk or ping me if any decision for ucsd
Either in like general or Chad rejects or vv or smth
I got loyalties 🫡
