#University of Michigan (2023-2024)

1 messages · Page 23 of 1

sharp obsidian
#

However

#

I don't think it is impossible to survive

grave orchid
#

I see T__t

#

How about the criminal rate tho

sharp obsidian
#

The problem tho is that with climate change winters can sometimes be unpredictability harsh

#

And from what I've heard the university will still function as normal

hollow slate
#

I don’t think that’s true

unique onyx
#

i would say bring a warm and long coat and you'll be okay, look on reddit for what people recommend i think

hollow slate
#

It’s a very small town surrounded by a massive college

unique onyx
#

i don't think it's true

sharp obsidian
#

Ann Arbor is not unsafe

unique onyx
#

avoid shady places and going out alone at night and u shouold be okay

sharp obsidian
#

It might not be one of the safest places in the country but it definitely isn't unsafe from what I've heard

grave orchid
sharp obsidian
#

You'll meet a lot of fellow Asians

grave orchid
hollow slate
#

I’m sure you’ll be fine honestly you are going to be spending a lot of your time on campus… Ann Arbor is just the “city” that it’s based in which is very small. It’s a college town

unique onyx
#

nah it's perfectly normal to worry about that stuff

sharp obsidian
#

Tbf racism doesn't come to mind when you think of Ann Arbor

#

There might be a couple incidents

#

But it isn't too much of an intimidating town

unique onyx
#

i can't tell u exactly for south asians but one thing that i really enjoyed noticing about umich and by extension ann arbor is that a lot of the friend groups around campus are mixed between different ethnicities and cultures, there's not a super homogenous or exclusive culture that's noticeable

sharp obsidian
#

On a sidenote, it's one of the best college towns in the nation

unique onyx
#

as an east asian i felt comfortable

#

^^

unique onyx
grave orchid
unique onyx
#

ther

#

oops

#

there's a good proportion of east/central/south asians as well it's not super dominated by one or the other

sharp obsidian
#

Honestly between UCSD and UMich the three biggest differences are the weather, the college system at SD, and the social life

grave orchid
#

Ill really appreciate that

sharp obsidian
#

I can't speak about the engineering/data science programs, but apart from that, this is what I have

sharp obsidian
# grave orchid Can u elaborate more if u dont mind, except for the weather maybe bcs I already ...

UCSD has a college system, i.e. students are asked to rank the 8 colleges of the uni and they'll get assigned one when they're admitted. Your acceptance letter must have your college assignment too. Each of the colleges has its own culture and requirements, so while you will still be taking classes in the university in general, you'll be more involved(and associated) with your college outside of academics

#

Again all of this is from what I've heard

grave orchid
#

I see T__T so thats why I have to rank the colleges in commonapp back then

sharp obsidian
#

UCSD is infamously known as UC Socially Dead

grave orchid
sharp obsidian
#

This might be due to the relatively large number of commuters

grave orchid
#

I thought umich was more socially dead (sorry) meltingsob

sharp obsidian
#

Who practically aren't involved in some of the campus activities

#

Of course you will have a social life

sharp obsidian
#

But it will be easier to be involved in UMich than SD

grave orchid
#

I seee

#

Brand new information

unique onyx
#

if you put effort into being proactive and making friends / reaching out / joining stuff that ur interested in u should haev no problem at all

sharp obsidian
unique onyx
#

yeah true

sharp obsidian
#

Again make sure you get info from current UMich students

unique onyx
#

^^

sharp obsidian
unique onyx
#

i can send u the link for the umich '28 server if you want in dms

grave orchid
#

are u guys commited to umichh

sharp obsidian
#

Same for UCSD

unique onyx
#

you can ask questions to current students

unique onyx
sharp obsidian
grave orchid
unique onyx
#

okk

grave orchid
#

Thank youu everyonee!

unique onyx
#

ofc!

wet imp
#

Every school was a safety back in his day

lean shale
#

Anyone at campus day today?

worldly pivot
grave orchid
manic verge
#

Cs

toxic raft
#

Me

vague zenith
#

My FAFSA is processed but it's still showing up in the portal as incomplete, is this true for anyone else? I'm just a bit worried because the deadline is approaching

proud peak
#

when should i expect to receive my actual aid package info

#

the estimated aid thing they sent like 4-6 weeks ago was only based on CSS

tired mantle
unique onyx
#

there's a c/o 2028 discord server for those accepted btw, i can dm link if you want! can't send here

unique onyx
#

yes

proud peak
#

Feb 13

#

was wondering because that estimated offer contained zero financial aid, and as an instate the calculator was saying I would get like at least 10k/yr

#
  • their Go Blue Guarantee also says that like 85-90% of families (forget the exact percentage) in the income range which my family is in receive aid
#

so im wondering if im getting aid or not, because im not going if i dont get aid

golden hatch
#

Got in. High stats with test submitted. Very happy

manic verge
unique onyx
glad sleet
#

I got waitlisted, not even mad

#

No real STEM experience, t/o, oos, top 15% of graduating class, main ecs are sports and working 30+ hours a week, applied chemE

#

I withdrew so someone that needs it more than me can have it 🫡

plush kettle
#

i looked up their cds and they legit waitlist like 30% of applicants lol

raven pine
#

i feel like Umich is trying to weed out people who RD since they won a natty from the people (like me :) ) who geniunley want to go here

coarse ridge
#

I was waitlisted but it said an update was posted in an email today

#

Although I don't see any change

#

Is this just a technical error?

neat pawn
#

has anyone gotten their official financial aid or just estimated

#
  • lsa scholarships
proud peak
neat pawn
proud peak
#

which i am well within the bracket for their go blue guarantee which states my aid should bring the cost to attend like sub 15k

#

so im kinda pissed at umich rn

proud peak
#

yeah especially when i just talked with someone out of state who makes more than me (although everyone's family situation is different) and their cost to attend was like half of mine

#

like....

median plume
#

Scholarship wasn't aid based

#

So just aid was still super expensive 💀

proud peak
#

yeah of course, and i am not discounting you in any way, but as an in-state student, the state-funded school should be pledged to help out its instate students before oos

median plume
proud peak
fast galleon
#

had someone I know not realize they were viewed as oos for a state school until they got their aid back

proud peak
#

am probably going to call finaid dept this week to see if fafsa info changes anything

fast galleon
#

wait the oos person estimate has half the instate cost?

proud peak
#

idk if they got fafsa yet

proud peak
#

they say 17k/yr and im currently at 35k/yr

fast galleon
#

wow that’s insane

proud peak
#

BUT

fast galleon
#

definitely somethin messed up there

proud peak
#

i do have a 10k/yr scholarship which brings down to 25k/yr so it is really my bad for not mentioning that

#

but that is a merit based scholarship

fast galleon
#

yeah

proud peak
#

so should not affect finaid at all

fast galleon
#

is your aid met based on your sai?

proud peak
#

well my sai is like over the total cost at UM, but according to their "Go Blue Gaurantee" for in state students, i should be receiving a lot of aid

fast galleon
#

oh what-

proud peak
#

idk why the SAI is so high because at every school i am accepted at i qualify for aid

fast galleon
#

did your fafsa process?

proud peak
#

on the fsa website it says so

#

idk if that means um ahs it

fast galleon
#

you should check how much your sai is on there and calculate yourself

#

Umich uses css to calculate

#

until they get fafsa info to put out real aid packages

#

iirc

#

I’m guessing this since unc does a similar thing

proud peak
#

yeah that is waht i assumed

fast galleon
#

but yeah log onto fsa website and check what it says for sai

proud peak
#

k then what do i do with that

fast galleon
#

Basically take the COA from umich website

#

and subtract the sai number from it

#

and that’s how much need you have

#

usually the college will try to fulfill some of it through work study and unsubsidized loans

#

but the rest will come from the college itself

proud peak
#

well yeah but at some schools (like Dartmouth) I would pretty much attend for free, despite what my SAI says

fast galleon
#

hm that’s interesting

#

I’d assume umich had the same info

proud peak
#

idk where to find my sai on fsa

fast galleon
#

Let me check

proud peak
#

oh i found it

fast galleon
#

alr

proud peak
#

yeah the total COA - SAI for me is 1666 💀

fast galleon
#

yeah thats something to call umich about for sure then

#

since 35k is basically full pay

proud peak
#

but every school calculates aid differently; cuz like i said somewhere like Dartmouth my COA - SAI would be like 51,000 but I would receive more like 80,000 in aid

fast galleon
#

and the 10k you got isn’t based off financials

proud peak
#

im mostly basing the need i should receive off of their go blue guarantee

fast galleon
#

yeah based on your sai id expect it to be close to free

#

to go to umich

fast galleon
proud peak
#

yeah i mean i would expect it to be at least like 15k or less

fast galleon
#

like you’d know if your sai was 51k

#

Maybe it’s a typo or something

#

since they did give you the right amount of aid

proud peak
#

im not following you

#

wdym

fast galleon
#

I meant for Dartmouth

#

sorry

#

umich is still something you should try calling them about

#

I was just trying to find a reason for why your Dartmouth sai would be 51k

proud peak
#

well I mean my Cost of Attendance (~86k) subtracted my Student Aid Indext (34974)

#

which is typically what is used to calculate your "required need"

radiant hawk
#

Guys could you please give me some advice if you have some time? Would be much appreciated #1223711552859930624

hardy lichen
#

Can you add me as well?

livid bolt
#

Do they really accept less than 100 students off the waitlist? I feel like this number is just incredibly low

spare hollow
#

last year it was around 1000

#

depends on yield

placid ruin
velvet prairie
#

hey guys i hav a question, why am i being asked for financial statements for I-20 from U-M flint even though i didn't confirm going there

#

like i didn't even get a button to confirm admissions, they simply addmitted me and started sending visa stuffs

#

bruh i even got student election email from u-m flint in my u-mich email

proud peak
placid ruin
#

Oh cool!

#

Congrats

proud peak
#

Thanks:)

placid ruin
#

Did you apply for it?

proud peak
#

Nope, was awarded it a few weeks after EA advance selection CSE

#

I was trying to see if there are any scholarships @ UM to apply for but it seems most are automatic consideration

placid ruin
#

Can you send me a link to a list of them

#

I applied RD, but am still curious which ones I might be considered for

radiant hawk
unique onyx
#

got u

worldly willow
unique onyx
#

yes

spare hollow
#

i think it was like 20k or somn

crystal trout
#

yall im so lost about the loci for this school 😭

slim spade
#

is there a discord for '28 students?

#

does someone have an invite?

worldly willow
pallid epoch
#

If I wrote a loci for deferred should I still write one for waitlist

#

And do I email it to them

unique onyx
#

i'll dm you

spare hollow
#

around

#

they have this on their faqs

worldly willow
#

I’m not asking abt ppl accepted from@the waitlist

spare hollow
#

20k that accepted the waitlist

worldly willow
#

Damn

spare hollow
#

look at the faqs

#

also the rate varys wildly

#

like last yesr it was 5%

#

the two years before was like 0.5%

#

and year before that was 13%

#

i think

worldly willow
#

Well i didnt get wl i was just curious

#

Why does it sway so much

#

@spare hollow

spare hollow
#

no idea

spare basalt
#

not 1k

#

its on their common data set

vague zenith
unique onyx
#

yes

spare hollow
#

2023 it was 983/18575

spare basalt
spare hollow
#
#

faq

spare basalt
#

damn what is this difference in waitlist stats

#

77 to 983

spare hollow
#

ik 😭

#

its unpredictable

spare basalt
#

thats so unpredictable 😭 yeah

#

mayhbe the low numbers were bc of covid??

spare hollow
#

yea maybe

dim crag
#

so we can assume about 1k students get off the waitlist??

wet imp
#

No

#

It completely depends on the year

livid meteor
#

is there a loci form for waitlist

crystal trout
#

They don’t take locis according to their FAQ

silver herald
#

gang is there an admitted students ig chat

unique onyx
#

thre is a discord

#

though it's heavily populated by '27 and below rn LOL like half and half between them and '28

silver herald
#

i thought all schools had IG GCs

#

maybe you're just not in kek jkjk

unique onyx
silver herald
#

im asking for a friend

#

who also thinks there's probably a gc and he's not in it 💀

unique onyx
#

oh help 😭

#

maybe not 💀

#

someone had to tell me to make the discord LOL

#

we're late asf

silver herald
#

😭😭😭😭

vocal nimbus
#

which school better for premed in my name 🥸

silver herald
crystal trout
#

USC prolly but it is expensive

wet imp
#

And most grade inflating one

fleet smelt
#

can deferred students still showcase continued interest if they are on the waitlist?

velvet prairie
#

anyone knows when ross comes out?

wet imp
#

Every Ross applicant will get a final decision

#

If they were admitted LSA

#

If you were waitlisted from LSA, you cant get into Ross as an incoming freshman

dim crag
#

Does umich take loci?

worldly willow
marsh cradle
#

if anyone's a umich math major

#

do you know if its possible to start out first year halfway through the honors sequence

#

so like 395

worldly willow
#

hi

#

does anyone know when umich will send financial aid

proud peak
pulsar crater
#

hm ay so

#

does anyone know when the waitlists come out

placid ruin
#

They are reliant on the amount of committed students, so after may 1st. My guess is that those admissions would be rolling after that.

spare minnow
#

Do my chances at Ross change if I commit to LSA or not before the Ross decision!? like will they see that I'm good with going to LSA and not admit to Ross or am I overthinking

radiant hawk
#

@spark rain can you make the ann arbor roads better

spark rain
#

and then ill try

#

but trust me ive probably seen worse

#

living in a developing country

radiant hawk
unique onyx
worldly pivot
unique onyx
#

sigh

radiant hawk
unique onyx
#

AW

#

OK NVM

#

ur too nice 😭

ancient mesa
#

CS Advance selection result just dropped for me

untold eagle
#

anyone know how i can get off this waitlist

trim mango
#

^^

lean shale
unique onyx
#

they also said they'd send out LSA autoapplied scholarships by april 15

coarse ridge
#

does Umich take a LOCI

manic verge
#

Nah

manic verge
#

I got in

placid ruin
#

Has anyone gotten a financial aid package yet?

ancient mesa
ancient mesa
placid ruin
#

Ok me too, but not the final offer

tired mantle
#

Or on the portal?

ancient mesa
spare basalt
tired mantle
proud peak
#

yeah i assume actual aid packages will be sent out within a few weeks

#

or at least the start of them rolling out

#

i was an EA applicant and my FAFSA now appears as received in the UM portal so I assume I should be getting some finaid info soon

placid ruin
#

In the estimate they sent me, they said they still hadn't recieved fafsa

#

In enrollment connect it says recieved tho

proud peak
#

yeah i think it just default says that because the estimate is based on CSS

placid ruin
#

The estimate was based on css, yeah

proud peak
#

yeah so I hope my actual aid (FAFSA) is better than the CSS estimate

#

because the estimate said zero finaid for me 😢

placid ruin
#

They typically are more generous in fafsa, but the umich grant will be based on CSS

proud peak
#

(although their go blue guarantee and other finaid resources brag about how 90% of people in my income class receive aid)

placid ruin
#

Receiving aid is different than receiving good aid

#

Unfortunately

proud peak
#

well aid of about 12k a year

#

which for in-state is substantial

#

and would help a lot

placid ruin
#

That is good

#

The estimate they gave me was about 16k

proud peak
placid ruin
#

Which is the only reason I can afford going

proud peak
#

even though my income is on the higher end for qualifying for aid my parents are contributing zero to my education and so i needa cover it all

placid ruin
#

That will help you

proud peak
#

and so if they tell me im supposed to get x dollars i am gonna be a squeaky wheel until i get x dollars

placid ruin
#

The estimate should be fairly accurate

#

Fasfa should only help

proud peak
#

yeah i just hope i get the aid info sooner than later

#

dont want to push the enrollment deadline too much

placid ruin
#

I'm suprised they haven't extended the deadline

proud peak
#

yeah i know a few schools that have

placid ruin
#

Especially since no one has Financials yet

proud peak
#

it would also be nice for my WL schools :)

worldly pivot
proud peak
worldly pivot
#

hoping it's a SAI correction issue

#

new fafsa sucks

proud peak
#

yeah it has been a rocky road

proud peak
latent fox
#

hey ppl, is there a contract to sign when you are committing to umich

#

cuz im wondering if there are anything else to sign/submit besides paying for the enrollment deposit

#

im really afraid my offer will get rescinded lol

spark rain
#

also if you applied with test scores and you self reported you'll need to send in official test reports from either the SAT/ACT

#

like this

latent fox
#

because im not seeing the checklist

spark rain
#

it will appear in the left section of the portal

#

where the enroll button currently is

spark rain
latent fox
#

thanks again!!

spark rain
latent fox
#

i mean

#

i just saw the checklist

spark rain
#

oh congrats then

lean shale
#

if all new admits were automatically considered for scholarships, why did they still provide the option to apply? were the need-based scholarships automatic and the merit ones required an application or something?

median plume
empty violet
#

Does Michigan take LOCI

fluid solar
#

i don't think they take anything

empty violet
#

Oh alr

trim mango
#

aw dang

#

does anyone know if im able to send an additional LOR

manic verge
#

no sadly

pulsar crater
fluid solar
#

Daily reminder to please withdraw your offer if you're not committing 🙏

pulsar crater
#

Daily reminder to please withdraw your offer if you're not committing 🙏

unique onyx
#

wishing yall luck 🙏🏻

spark rain
#

So everyone would have decided by then

latent fox
#

does anyone know why umich prevents you from dual majoring in cs and ds?

#

The website said this (I somehow can't attach a screenshot)
The following MDDP combinations are not allowed:

CS-Eng with DS-LSA
DS-Eng with CS-LSA

shadow basin
#

I was confused about the same thing as well

latent fox
#

thanks

tribal pelican
#

did ross come out yet for anyone else.. i still havent gotten my results

silver herald
#

i think they said april 12th?

ancient mesa
#

Did anyone get a notification that they received a engineering scholarship today

shadow basin
#

I got it way back but that’s because I applied early action

ancient mesa
shadow basin
#

Congratulations

ancient mesa
shadow basin
ancient mesa
shadow basin
trim mango
#

also this yr could be wayyyy later cuz of fafsa

vague folio
#

anyone get a financial aid offer based on fafsa and not just css

unique onyx
#

not yet

placid ruin
#

I dont know if they'll give out a real offer until after commitment

spark rain
#

For UMich its may 1st

#

But for other universities like Rutgers they’ve moved it back to June 1st

#

And so on

tribal pelican
#

is anyone visiting umich

#

on campus day

vague zenith
crystal trout
crystal trout
#

Ty 😭

neat pawn
#

has anyone gotten lsa scholarships

lean shale
#

Anyone know if trying to negotiate financial aid with UMich would be successful? I got nothing from them in aid, but other schools have given me up to $8000 a year. It's not an absolute necessity, but I just want to lighten the load on my parents as much as possible and if I don't get a scholarship (which I don't think I will) then it would be great to lower the cost of attending through other means

#

Also when can I become an RA? They have guarenteed housing, right? Is the housing cost removed for UMich RAs?

worldly pivot
#

and yes, no housing cost

lean shale
#

amazing. How competitive is it to become an RA?

proud peak
lean shale
#

if you do, let me know how it goes please

shadow basin
lean shale
#

yeah

shadow basin
#

Oh how’d u get it

#

Like was it email?

#

I only got the estimated one

lean shale
#

oh no, I mean I have the estimated, but I don't expect the real one to be much different, neither do my parents

shadow basin
#

I was thinking of doing the same but after I get the official cost

proud peak
#

idk

#

will probably just shoot an email and see if i get a response, they are usually pretty slow to respond via email

shadow basin
#

@proud peak I’ve heard that most unis reject appeals unless there’s a big change in income

#

So I really dk how umich gonna respond😭

worldly pivot
#

Umich typically reject appeals too

worldly pivot
manic verge
#

Is getting umich phd admission from msu easy?

fluid solar
#

how hard is it to get off the waitlist?

#

i'm trying not to be delusional

neat pawn
proud peak
#

so i wanted to see if this discrepancy would likely be cleared, and possibly show intent to commit if i receive good aid

neat pawn
#

i’m so mad they aren’t extending the commitment deadline i wanna go so bad but like😭

proud peak
#

my counselor says sometimes they give you a little extra aid if they know it means you will attend, idk how true that is but that is what she said

proud peak
neat pawn
proud peak
#

im in-state even but it just is not fiscally responsible to commit to a school before knowing the coa

proud peak
#

tbh dartmouth was my dream and I got WL'd and tbh UM was a back-up but now that I have looked more into it, I am so happy I applied

#

I wasn't really even considering of attending but my opportunities are IMMENSE at UM

neat pawn
proud peak
#

yeah cuz even for in-state my coa is like 25k, but that is still 100k; i know oos is way more but that is still a lot of money

neat pawn
proud peak
#

if i can get that as low as possible that would be nice

proud peak
#

a little more even I believe

#

so I will be able to do their SUGS (accelerated masters, typically 4+1) in pretty much 4 years from what it seems

#

of course need to verify everything but I can, in theory, finish my UG coursework in 5 semesters

#

whether it is actually practical to do that is a different story

#

either way a Masters in 4 years is KILLER

neat pawn
proud peak
#

you don't need any additional credit outside of what you would take at UM for SUGS if that is what you mean

neat pawn
#

ohhh sorry i misread what u sent you would be finishing it 4 years right?

proud peak
#

yah

#

typically I think you start taking your graduate classes in senior year

#

so then you have some done for the 5th year which is all grad courses

#

there is some sort of double counting or something idk

neat pawn
#

no yeah that’s crazy i got in for pharmacy and all my prereqs are like the same for the major i want in engineering so hopefully i could do the cross campus transfer next year 😭😭

#

sugs is so goated i would def go if i was you

#

but yeah it’s so expensive😭

proud peak
#

oh yeah, especially for oos 💀

#

😬

#

that is a lot

neat pawn
#

shhhh🤫🤫

proud peak
#

like even this is a lot, but I am avoiding 1 year of UG so it isnt as bad

#

yknow typically it is 4yrs UG and 2 G so even doing the SUGS save 1 year of G, my thing will save a year of UG and G

neat pawn
#

damn i should’ve done dual enrollment instead of ib😭😭😭

proud peak
#

😂 my school only offers 2 AP classes

#

but then they got this sweet ass deal with our local CC

#

typically it is a 5th year program where you enroll in HS for a technical 5th year, but you take all CC classes and get a free AA because all DE classes are paid for '

#

and you are still considered a FY because you are technically taking CC classes during HS still, not after

#

you dont technically graduate HS till after the 5th year of all CC classes

neat pawn
#

wow that’s amazing the only credit i could get from all my classes is like intro bio💀💀💀💀💀

proud peak
#

anyways I am doing that program but finishing it in senior year

#

oof yeah

#

i dont like bio 😢

#

but I love ecology

#

make sense of that 🤣

neat pawn
#

ooh i’m trying to switch into biomedical engineering 😭😭😭😭

proud peak
#

that is dope

#

I was initially wanting to dual major @ UM, but since I thought about doing the SUGS in 4 years I completely dropeed the idea of dual major

#

so much more advantageous

#

unless maybe if the dual major was like a BBA

#

idk I still think a masters has more weight to it

placid ruin
neat pawn
#

kesslers specifically*

placid ruin
#

They're still rolling out

#

I applied rd and got one yesterday

#

But my friend who went ea got one a couple days after they were accepted

#

And then another one later

#

So I think they're rolling

#

No clue if kesslers is over

neat pawn
#

were you guys in state or oos

placid ruin
#

In state

shadow basin
#

They got a scholarship then got another one?

placid ruin
#

Apparently, yeah

shadow basin
#

Is this an in state thing

placid ruin
#

Idk

untold eagle
#

need to get off this waitlist

#

😭

neat pawn
fluid solar
#

even though i won't get in ross

#

i still want to be stuck in LSA smile 🙏

steep wren
#

for those who got in how many ppl from ur hs got in mich cs as well lol

lean drum
#

oos tuition is insane lol

#

does anyone have scholarships that are still open for umich?

steep wren
#

how much is oss

#

oos

lean shale
#

too dang much

#

like 76k a year

manic verge
fluid solar
#

damn

#

(i still want to go)

#

are they generous with aid?

wet imp
#

They give essentially 0 aid

ashen merlin
#

Ima fly in and try to lower tuition

proud peak
proud peak
#

although if you do have a low SAI you can get quite a bit, but it will still be very costly compared to any in-state school

steep wren
#

its rlly easy to get in mich overall as in state right

steep wren
proud peak
#

so yeah, it is easier to get into umich in-state than oos

#

although I wouldn't say it is "really easy," if you aren't academically strong, they won't just let you in

#

I have a friend who has quite a bit of business experience but didn't really try hard in school and was deferred and then rejected for UM (not even Ross, he just wasnt accepted to UM)

steep wren
#

now that cs is restricted is it much harder to get cs as in state?

#

im just curious

proud peak
#

well since there is a limited amount of CS spots in general, yes

#

it is harder for anyone who wants to do CS

steep wren
#

ill likely commit to mich cs too

proud peak
#

although, proportionally, it is just as "easy" as getting accepted in-state

steep wren
#

ur already committed right

proud peak
#

yeah I haven't committed yet, but it is the most likely option for me right now

steep wren
#

what are u choosing between?

proud peak
#

i also want to see my finaid package before committing

steep wren
#

oh yeah how do u see ur package lol do u email them

proud peak
#

well they are supposed to send out official packages on the 15th

shadow basin
proud peak
#

someone told me that they emailed finaid dept and that is what they said

#

i havent seen the email, that is only what this person said

shadow basin
#

Damn I didn’t know that thanks for telling

proud peak
#

i was going to send out an email today

#

was wanting to last thursday but have been stupid busy

shadow basin
#

Yeah u need to get your financial situation sorted out

#

For umich

proud peak
#

i havent committed because even though they are the best option for me, i cant consider it fiscally responsible to committ without knowing coa

proud peak
#

K, just sent off the email

#

will keep yall updated (on the date)

velvet prairie
#

is ross BBA today?

warm lava
#

hi, i did the math and i’m coming in w 37 credits and i’m pretty sure that i can graduate in 3 years if i take an adequate/doable amt of classes each semester. how and when do you find out if you’re officially “sophomore standing” or not? also are lsa scholarships still coming out or have most of them already been given? i’m out of state if that makes a difference. thanks!

fluid solar
#

good luck for ross~~~

#

(i'm definitely gonna get off the waitlist and then transfer in ross smile ❤️ )

proud peak
#

just making you aware that is an option (possibly)

placid ruin
#

What is a SUGS program?

proud peak
#

I am coming in with about 50 credits and could logistically complete my UG coursework in 5 semesters and am planning on doing a SUGS (sequential undergraduate graduate studies) which is typically a 4+1 masters program

#

meaning I may be able to complete the SUGS in 4 instead of 5 years

warm lava
#

I thougjt that was engineering only

#

I’m lsa

placid ruin
#

I'm in a similar boat

proud peak
#

hmmmmmmmm

warm lava
#

Either way i’m pre med so i can’t do a combined masters :(

proud peak
#

if it is, then i didnt know about that

#

many schools have 4+1 programs so i assumed it was just for lsa and eng

#

but yeah it looks like it is eng only

placid ruin
#

Its engineering only

#

Yeah

warm lava
#

ok ok

proud peak
#

damn

#

good for me ig 🤣

warm lava
#

Ty for making me aware of that tho! i knwo there’s the preferred admission thing too which is cool but sadly they don’t apply to me

worldly pivot
#

wait who said sugs is for eng only???

#

Current University of Michigan undergraduate students studying Computer Science-LSA or Engineering, Computer Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Data Science (Eng or LSA), or a minor in Computer Science are eligible to apply to the CSE Sequential Undergraduate/Graduate Studies (SUGS) program.

#

LSA CS and DS qualify

proud peak
#

it is as good as eng only for everything except cs/ds

worldly pivot
proud peak
#

im not sure why the program isnt extended to more degrees though

sharp obsidian
#

Did anyone hear back from the LSA international scholarship

neat pawn
#

has anyone heard back from kesslers😭😭😭

neat pawn
unique onyx
neat pawn
sullen acorn
#

Bwah

tribal pelican
#

GOT INTO ROSS

#

RAHH

#

probably won’t commit tho- idk let’s c when financial aid comes out

tribal pelican
unique onyx
#

conrgatstt::3

tribal pelican
wet imp
manic verge
silver herald
velvet prairie
#

Got Ross too, prob gonna commit :>

tribal pelican
ashen merlin
#

Does anyone know if you can transfer to ross while in umich

unique onyx
steep wren
neat pawn
unique onyx
steep wren
worldly pivot
# unique onyx

bro really posted a pic of carlo's insight here 💀😂

unique onyx
#

LMFAO

tired mantle
#

Has anyone not received their fin aid offer yet?

#

Like is there a way to check it that I’m unaware of? Because it thought it was just an email.

proud peak
#

but there was an estimate sent out, just not the official thing yet

#

afaik

tribal pelican
#

not even an estimate..

tired mantle
proud peak
#

hmmmm that is odd

#

well some have been saying official aid packages come out tmr

proud peak
#

with a guest or "friend" account that is

#

https://wolverineaccess.umich.edu/ > New and Prospective Student Business > New&Prospective Student Center > View Financial Aid Document Status > 2025 > Award Summary (sub-tab at the top within the "Financial Aid" tab)

#

That shows the exact same information the emailed estimate shows

#

Perhaps you do have an estimate and weren't emailed the webpage (the emailed estimate has a much fancier looking webpage but the data displayed is identical)

tired mantle
#

My only concern is that I was admitted for Urban Technology, which starts Winter 2025.

#

But like. I still need my aid before then 💀

proud peak
# tired mantle It just says $0 💀

well either they just never did an estimate or according to the estimate you are receiving 0. if it is the latter, i wouldnt worry too much about it because my estimate says 0 for need based when according to all resources online i should be receiving like 13k in need based (i am in state though, so take that into account)

proud peak
crude marsh
#

when do waitlists start coming out

pulsar crater
#

after 5/1

warm lava
warm lava
#

I meant like reps i’ve spoken to in person said it was sent alr

#

and it’s just not there on my portal

silver herald
#

I think estimates were only sent for ea?

warm lava
#

i applied ea. all my financial aid stuff was sent on time/early, they marked on my portal that they received both css and fafsa. can someone send a ss of where it’s supposed to be and on which portal? i checked the admission portal/enrollment connect and it’s not there, and i checked wolverine access and it’s also not there

vague zenith
shadow basin
#

Like how i got it was through an email

#

And a link at the very bottom

warm lava
#

thanks y’all, I ended up finding it today?? but they never sent me an email at all 😭😭

shadow basin
vague zenith
#

There's instructions online

neat pawn
#

someone ping me if you get official aid notice/scholarships today

#

‼️

proud peak
#

same

brave totem
#

Are there any substantial chances that I can get accepted from the waitlisted pool?

warm lava
#

Do they let you know if you didn’t win any scholarships or is it just if you don’t get anything you assume you got nothing

neat pawn
warm lava
#

ok tysm i hope they do the same lol

unique onyx
#

real 😫

livid bolt
#

Literally all of my friends were wait waitlisted or accepted to umich (2 a 7 wl)

tired mantle
#

My offer still hasn’t shown up. It still says that I don’t have any aid

vague folio
#

anyone’s fafsa show up as received on enrollment connect, but not showing up on wolverine access?

vague folio
#

same, i’m assuming your estimated offer is only based on css and not fafsa?

vague folio
shadow basin
proud peak
# vague folio any idea of when updated aid offers will be released?

I was told this in an email from UM:
"Due to the delay with FAFSA, universities have been delayed with official packaging.
Unfortunately if it goes past May 1st, you will have to go off of your estimated aid notice but the lateness shouldn’t bar you from receiving maximum aid."

#

So they are pretty much saying if you don't get your estimate by May 1st, oh well, just commit already!

#

you need to know what it will cost? fuck you!

#

(you can request a 2-week extension, although they don't like to tell you that)

vague folio
#

thanks! department of education really screwed everyone over this year

proud peak
#

yeah

neat pawn
#

i’m stressing sm about kesslers ahhh

frosty yew
#

mog

crystal trout
velvet prairie
#

anyone know how do you double major ross + another school?

#

like whats the procedure

pulsar crater
#

or...are you actually planning on graduating in 3 yrs

frosty yew
#

I just don’t want to get the college role

#

I like my lavender

pulsar crater
#

ohh

frosty yew
#

like

#

Look at this guys color

#

@worldly pivot

#

Piss peach color

worldly pivot
#

it's not even bad although lavender is indeed better

pulsar crater
#

I think yellow is better

#

the Umich yellow

worldly pivot
pulsar crater
#

alright, the UMich Maize

#

I think that looks better than both pink and lavender

worldly pivot
#

nah purple the best color

frosty yew
#

no wonder ur a ucsb kid

#

can’t tell maize from yellow

#

smh

pulsar crater
#

isn't maize a kind of yellow tho

#

are you so unhinged you are gonna tell me "no"

frosty yew
#

bud.

#

no

#

are you going to say UCs are yellow and blue and thus equivalent to umich since it’s blue and “yellow”

#

we are DIFFERENT

pulsar crater
#

I don't care what you say, umich is yellow and blue

#

what u saying is like saying "Oh this is not a car, its a lamborghini"

frosty yew
#

oh wait app season is over

pulsar crater
#

umich waitlisted me so...

frosty yew
#

same thing

pulsar crater
#

lmao 💀

silver herald
#

among the UC's themselves there are variations

#

like berkeley is cool and regal and our colors are "berkeley blue" (like navy blue) and "california gold" and they're so pretty and then you have ucla with their basic ass primary color blue and yellow

proud peak
#

smh

pulsar crater
#

Lmao 😭

terse parcel
#

did anyone hear back about the scholarships here?

shadow basin
#

Ik someone who got it a few hours ago

terse parcel
#

alright thanks a lot

median plume
#

I'm wearing a UMich engineering shirt and so many people have come up to talk to me 🥲

neat pawn
proud peak
#

or no one has talked to me but i am also wearing my umich eng shirt today lmao

worldly pivot
proud peak
#

oh my guitar teacher asked me about it

#

he is one of those kinda pretentious, educated people

#

he is cool

neat pawn
#

anyone know anything about lead scholars

median plume
#

I just withdrew my application

#

It hurt

worldly pivot
neat pawn
#

im so scared i wanna go so bad but the way aid offers don’t come out until like commitment day is crazyyy

median plume
neat pawn
#

if i end up not going i’ll be so devastated like my in state options are so bad 😭

median plume
#

Are you engineering?

neat pawn
#

yas

median plume
#

I just rejected the scholarship they offered me

neat pawn
#

i’m kinda worried bc a lot of people alr got the automatic scholarships

median plume
#

So maybe you'll get it 👀

neat pawn
#

omg manifest 😇😇

steep wren
#

oh we dont find out abt merit based scholarship until commitment day?

median plume
unique onyx
#

have a great time at columbia 🙏🏻

#

congratulations and best of luck

median plume
hardy lichen
velvet prairie
#

what is a good MLC/Theme Community for Ross?

vague folio
#

todays the first day to be able to ask for an enrollment deposit extension

warm lava
#

hey i have question about the HSSP MLC. which one of these is correct.
“ If two first-years wish to live with each other, they should request each other as roommates in case they do not get into the program. If a student is admitted to HSSP, they would be living with another HSSP student. HSSP students can room with the student they select as their roommate if the other student is also admitted to HSSP. This happens as part of your room selection process run by the UM Housing department website. “

and this elsewhere “Michigan Learning Community applications take precedence over roommate requests. If admitted to an MLC, successful applicants' roommate requests may not be considered. HSSP specifically does not honor roommate requests - it plays a big part in building our tight-knit community!” which one is correct? i got into the program, can i request a roommate if i meet someone or does it not work like that

tribal pelican
#

ross aid is ass

#

low income and i only got 20kish aid

#

sigh :c

unique onyx
neat pawn
#

anyone got official aid/scholarships today ☹️☹️ i feel impending doom😄

sullen acorn
#

🙋 im starting a generational debt

worldly pivot
#

Email UMich and tell them u don’t need any aid and give them to others that need it more

vague folio
#

hope y’all have better luck

ashen merlin
#

They only released estimates

#

Are they counting that as the official aid

neat pawn
#

god

neat pawn
shadow mist
#

anyone know how i can check my financial aid package estimate for UMICH?

#

i couldnt find it anywhere

shadow basin
#
shadow mist
#

found it

#

thanks

#

65k is crazy

#

looks like im going to GT

shadow basin
proud peak
#

like wtf

#

no one has their aid package yet wtf you mean
"Your request to have your Enrollment Deposit due date extended was considered but unfortunately, we are unable to extend your deadline date.

We have checked with Financial Aid and you have received your package. As the University has provided all of the information needed for you to make a decision, we are unable to further extend your deadline."

#

We have checked with Financial Aid and you have received your package
no i fucking didnt 🤣

shadow mist
shadow basin
shadow mist
tribal pelican
#

atp like

#

might give up on ross

neat pawn
#

god

#

decomitting unless a scholarship i’m waiting for pulls through like now😭😭

rocky flint
#

Hello I'm really hoping I'm in the right place got a bit confused with all the channels 😭
I'm currently a Junior in highschool.I grew up in Michigan and stayed there until 7th grade and am now currently residing in Saudi Arabia, I'm wanting to move back to the US for uni and the univercity im mostly looking at atm is U of M to pursure CS. I was wondering do you guys have any recommendations to increase my chances of getting in other than working on getting 1400 or above on SAT I have a few extracurriculars such as a part time job and some clubs I started in school.
(Sorry if this is not written the best I have trouble putting my thoughts together at times I'm open to answer any questions)

tired mantle
#

Nah the fact that USC gave me better aid is actually crazy.

silver herald
tired mantle
proud peak
#

so if you dont have much cs experience that you may see on something like a resume dont worry about it because i know several people (albeit mostly instate, but a few oos) which had practically no "experience" in cs but got advance selection cs because they were really academically strong candidates

neat pawn
rocky flint
proud peak
#

but as the others have said, essays are huge

rocky flint
frosty yew
#

mewing

vague zenith
#

@neat pawn did you submit any supplementary info for the extension request?

neat pawn
vague zenith
#

Oh ic

neat pawn
#

yeah and they also said in an email that’s it’s only because i submitted a financial aid appeal and those aren’t being reviewed until after may 1st

#

and i mentioned waiting for scholarships and like something that happened w my dads job and stuff but none of that matters apparently 😄😄😄

vague zenith
#

Oh LOL

#

Wtf

vague zenith
#

Isnt the enrollenent deadline may 1st?

#

How can u submit an appeal after may 1st

neat pawn
vague zenith
#

Ohh aid appeal

#

I thought u meant extension

#

They're so fucking heartleas

#

Just extend the deadline

#

Every university is doing it

#

You're just gonna lower ur yields by acting like this

proud peak
#

yeah they denied my extension because they said having the estimate is good enough instead of seeing the actual aid package

vague folio
#

they didn’t even give me a reason

steep wren
#

hey current wolverines, how good is umich as placing undergrads in top grad programs? esp in the tech field like cs

steep wren
#

im doing fine prolly ending up going to umich lol

silver herald
silver herald
steep wren
#

noo im doing cs

#

thats why i was wondering abt the question i asked earlier xdd

#

berkeley is goated are u flying over to visit :0

worldly pivot
#

i mean we're good at placing undergrads into top companies in industry so we can't be that bad at placing undergrads in top grad programs

silver herald
#

oh

#

idk why i thought you were a business kid

#

but slay!

worldly pivot
#

dubs

silver herald
#

my current bsf and my childhood friend are going to umich lol

silver herald
silver herald
worldly pivot
silver herald
#

🫶🫶🫶🫶

steep wren
#

just wondering are u planning on going to grad school O.o

steep wren
steep wren
silver herald
steep wren
#

thats cool

worldly pivot
steep wren
steep wren
silver herald
#

you too w umich🫡

steep wren
#

cuz im also not sure if i wanna go striaght in industry

silver herald
#

@unique onyx is also a very cool umich kid

worldly pivot
#

i don't like school

steep wren
#

LOL

steep wren
unique onyx
#

love u guys 🤟🏻

silver herald
velvet prairie
#

can you reject an MLC?

#

and go to a theme community instead

unique onyx
velvet prairie
# unique onyx yes i believe so

wait are you certain, cause i need to be sure (im concurently applying to mrads and to 2 other theme communities which are higher up on my prio list)

unique onyx
#

in the email i got in my LSWA acceptance

#

"furthermore if you choose to decline our offer for any reason please let us know"

velvet prairie
unique onyx
#

yaya

cold cypress
#

anyone got recs on which dorm is the best for first-years?

velvet prairie
#

n stay away from bursley and baits

cold cypress
#

oh i see

#

north campus

#

how far away is north campus from central?

velvet prairie
#

mosher jordan good if ur engineer

velvet prairie
#

js try to stay away from it ;-;

cold cypress
#

yea

proud peak
#

a lot of people will call me crazy but baits aint bad

#

but if you have all lsa classes then there is really no reason to want to be on north

#

i just like north better than central

#

but if you get assigned there go in with an open mind

#

a lot of people get assigned baits/bursley and go in with a closed mind and have a bad time

cold cypress
#

hmm ok

#

do u know if there a dining hall or gym nearby for either?

cold cypress
#

which do u guys recommend between baits/bursley? I'm majoring in lsa comp sci @proud peak @velvet prairie

proud peak
#

bursley has the dining hall but baits has better rooms

#

bursley rooms are tiny, baits has duo suites where two duos are connected with a private bathroom

#

some of them like a living room sort of thing

velvet prairie
#

bursley got 'em elevators and dining hall tho

#

i can't imagine myself walking outside the dorm in the snow of michigan at -5 C just to get food

velvet prairie
#

but if ur doing comp sci perhaps consider some MLCs or theme community?

#

mrads maybe?

unique onyx
cold cypress
#

🫡

fleet smelt
#

when are waitlist decisions likely to be out?

fluid solar
#

end of June

#

which is near my bd

#

hope i get an acceptance as a bd gift 🥹

crystal trout
dense crane
#

goodluck to anyone on the waitlist hearthands

unique onyx
#

good luck yall

tribal pelican
#

visited today, super nice buildings & everything!

fluid solar
#

still want it tho noooo

tribal pelican
tribal pelican
crystal trout
#

They were super tough this year. I’m in state like 10 min from the school and barely anyone got into RBS or even Rutgers New Brunswick at all. They’re really trying to rise up the ranks 😭😭

tribal pelican
#

i’m about 1hr+ away?

crystal trout
#

Also tbh if you made it Ross then honestly rutgers was just yield protection for you fr

sullen acorn
#

is ross extremely competitive as well in its transfer process? I applied to LSA on premed track but am already considering business at ross now lol

cold cypress
#

LSA honors came out today

golden hatch
#

Got in for honors. Anyone know the impact of honors?

unique onyx
thorny perch
#

hey guys

#

so i got into lsa

#

but want to do physics

#

and put down that i would like to be apart of the college of pharmacy

#

is there someway i can still pursue biological engineering/physics while not being tied to that school

#

bc im not tryingnto go into nursing

worldly willow
#

hi when does FINANCIAL AID come out

hallow shoal
#

what's the average GPA for CSE majors?

worldly pivot
#

1.3728

proud peak
pulsar crater
pulsar crater
jagged bear
#

would waitlists decisions come out mid may?

crystal trout
#

At the earliest

#

But they go till end of June

low fog
#

Could start May 2

fluid solar
#

anyone know when LSA wl came out last year?

crystal trout
fluid solar
#

noooo 🙏

crystal trout
#

Real

#

It’s fine imma just lock in for these AP exams and hopefully once they’re done, the decisions will be out

fluid solar
#

my aps and school finals will all be done by 5/8

#

and then it's time to pray for waitlists coolcry

crystal trout
#

You got thisss 🙌🙌

coarse bramble
#

FUCK I OVERSLEPT

turbid stone
#

BRO WHATTT

#

Email them 😭

fluid solar
#

brooooo

cold cypress
#

💀

#

is there a way mich assigns random roommates

#

i filled out the housing application

#

but is there another more indepth form or is that it?

vague zenith
#

No its literally random