Stanford University (2023-2024)

[dapper gale]

Are you actually cus you said the 5-time legacy as a joke right lmao

[lusty magnet]

im legacy to a school that doesnt do legacy

[pine rain]

im pretty sure that wasn't a joke

[wintry delta]

did your parents goof up on the gaokao or something

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(hes legacy to tsinghua)

[pine rain]

no

peking is listed

💀

it's like

[oak leaf]

is there a chance me channel or no

[pine rain]

actually i don't wanna say it cuz i might dox myself

ngl

[lusty magnet]

hell nah

[dapper gale]

I have this friend who is quadruple legacy to duke but she isn't even applying

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no

[lusty magnet]

its not allowed

[lusty magnet]

[meager eagle]

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[wintry delta]

my dad's resume is publically available if you search for his name lol

[oak leaf]

lol why do kids troll it or something

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Billert and me both gonna get into stanford trust

[pine rain]

it's because it degenerates

[pine rain]

🙏

[oak leaf]

Bro how are u confident or even remotely think u have a chance

like what have u done that makes u think that

[pine rain]

nothing

😭

[oak leaf]

u either gotta win some crazy comps or have some nutball summer programs

u publish research or nah

[pine rain]

yes

[oak leaf]

on what

[dapper gale]

Like are you actually 5x legacy cus then actually you'd get in

[pine rain]

on remote sensing

[dapper gale]

That was a joke right....

[wintry delta]

whether you get rejected or accepted, you shouldnt treat a "no" from a reach like your life is over

[lusty magnet]

im like 50/50 in that regard

[pine rain]

i will not elaborate further

[oak leaf]

u capping or nah

[pine rain]

out of fear of doxxing myself!

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yeah im actually a 6th gen legacy

[pine rain]

no

[oak leaf]

i did research at a state college but no publish lol

thats sick im ngl

[lusty magnet]

im fgli with legacy to harvard

[pine rain]

i also have two ieee conference awards but i don't really wanna say what the conference is cuz i'd get omega doxxed

[pine rain]

bro wolog is atually going insane with the flyins

he's gotten into every one he's applied to

[lusty magnet]

jeez

[pine rain]

besides mit

[wintry delta]

is ieee a big publisher
because some of the recent papers im using in my review paper are from ieee

[lusty magnet]

bro is wildin

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which ones

[pine rain]

yes

[pine rain]

caltech pomona williams come to mind

there's a few more

[dapper gale]

Ay similar situations (not ieee for me but international science conference)

[pine rain]

but i forgor

[dim badge]

i think he got rejected from amherst

they rejected everyone bro

[wintry delta]

my parents legit were like "dont apply to harvard, dont like the people there"

[pine rain]

he didn't apply to amherst

[lusty magnet]

o

[pine rain]

he also got into

tufts

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damnnn

nice

[lusty magnet]

bro ima be honest the rest of my family is so cracked

[oak leaf]

realistically if i apply to havard what my chance of getting in

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hes definitely going to have a good app season

[lusty magnet]

low probably5

[wintry delta]

i feel ahead but also behind on essays

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i should be working on essays rn

since i have no hw

[pine rain]

i feel fucked on essays

i also feel sleep deprived

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same

the diversity essay

bleh

[wintry delta]

i should be working on research or all-region auditions or physics hw due in 2 days

[pine rain]

i need to finish my arts portfolio too

emre

[wintry delta]

princeton diversity essay is worded so awful

[pine rain]

don't trash stanford

come on

please

[sleek garden]

this the typa thing to happen to a harvard legacy

[pine rain]

🥺

thank god

[sleek garden]

i hate stanford

so dumb

they rejected me

[pine rain]

emre try not to hate stanford challenge (impossible!)

[wintry delta]

my arts portfolio might just be me throwing together some animation files i have on my computer

[lusty magnet]

fg + legacy💀

[pine rain]

im doing my viola shit

im hoping it's going to be fire enough to make them want to accept me

[lusty magnet]

wtf is that prompt

[pine rain]

my viola teacher also knows a lot of people so im hoping someone recognizes her name on her letter of rec

[wintry delta]

theres a really cracked cellist in my district with her own website and something like tx all-stater all years of HS
and it made me say "yeah im awful at music"

[sleek garden]

i need to go and find a stock to pitch

dont apply to top schools guys

[pine rain]

what about wharton

[sleek garden]

club apps are MUCH harder than college apps

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do yk if kog got into dartmouth bound

[pine rain]

who is kog

[sleek garden]

wharton is bad

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wolog*

[pine rain]

he didn't apply

[dusty trench]

?

[dusty trench]

W take I approve

[rare herald]

Yikes what’s ur main ec?

[flint umbra]

same major?

[rare herald]

.

[rare herald]

who?

[rare herald]

he got into tufts fly in??? bro is cracked

i gotta question: would it look weird applying under a tech major if it has a rlly cool concentration? major in question is science tech and society. they have a life sciences and health concentration which is pretty good for what i wanna do but the thing is my ec's revolve around health care/government (another sts concentration) not anything related to tech major as a whole

[dapper gale]

Both co presidents of a club that we each work 7ish hours a week on

[rare herald]

covid inspired ppl to go into public health rlly

[dapper gale]

I mean idk fs if it's COVID or something else but from what I've heard sooo many ppl are going into it compared to like 3-4 years ago

[rare herald]

general job security+pretty interesting field+ some ppl decide to not be premed but enjoy healthcare

[harsh sentinel]

is there any benefit to applying rea here

like does it boost my app chances even slightly

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no its the same

[nova ruin]

Nope

[harsh sentinel]

then why do people apply early 😭

[harsh sentinel]

fair enough

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Early results

[dapper gale]

Cus if you get in & are planning to go you don’t need to complete any RD apps

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cuz legacy or donor

i think stanford only considers legacy status in rea round too

[harsh sentinel]

yeah but if i don't I'll have to do like 20 😭

I think I'll just do stanford rd

[nova ruin]

Way better imo

Plus we’re internationals 💀

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i mean not reaing gives u the opportunity to ea to way more schools

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mit, uchicago, caltech, tulane

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yeah stanford doesnt have international need-blind admissions right?

[nova ruin]

Yeah they don’t but they’re almost needblind tho

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damn that sucks, the rest of hypsm does tho right

[nova ruin]

HYPM*

[harsh sentinel]

yeah that's what im gonna do

[harsh sentinel]

im citizen tho so need blind for me

[nova ruin]

Sis has that needblind rizz

[harsh sentinel]

😎😎😎

still not gonna get in tho 😎😭😎

[dapper gale]

Stanford in general doesn’t rly care about legacy as much as, say, Harvard or Princeton

[rare herald]

source?

im happy they like spikes and interviews

didnt realize the importance of interviews ig

[harsh sentinel]

omg i have a spike in a niche field lets gooo

i now feel much better about shifting to rd

[rare herald]

major?

[harsh sentinel]

communications but my ecs are all writing related

[rare herald]

nice

i didnt know stanford had a comms major

[harsh sentinel]

wby

i wish they had a journalism major tbh

but its okay their comms major seems v cool

[rare herald]

i might apply as a science tech society major with a concentration in life sciences and health or public policy

[rare herald]

i like communications tho, its super cool

[harsh sentinel]

plus i love their data science major because its a ba and it connects data science and social systems which is v cool!!

[harsh sentinel]

sts?

[rare herald]

yeah

[harsh sentinel]

no i mean

what is it

😭

[rare herald]

i edited my message but its science tech and society

[harsh sentinel]

ooooh that sounds nice, good luck!!

[rare herald]

yeah thanks! my ec's arent rlly science related tho so i might apply public policy

[harsh sentinel]

yeah after seeing that reddit post, i think its best to apply to something related to your ecs

[rare herald]

ah

yah and i think they look for ppl in underrepresented majors too

true

[native loom]

bruh i only have like a couple of major related ecs but like so many other ECs

[harsh sentinel]

make your major ecs sound like really impressive

[real herald]

stanford? thats some light shi ong

[pine rain]

what the fuck does it mean to have a spike

what if you're just cracked at everything

[narrow jacinth]

Then you’re a whole knife

But like those chinese butcher knives

[pine rain]

like what does it mean

i have 3 extracurriculars that are in the realm of data science

and i have decent success there

but i also do a lot of other things

like playing in retirement homes

or running my own organizations

[harsh sentinel]

allen chang flashbacks

[pine rain]

or coaching my mathcounts team

[harsh sentinel]

im international so from what i've seen of the us education system, your school offers a shit ton of clubs and there's always opportunities so as a us hs student, you inevitably become a doer of all
like salami's saying though, it all comes down to what you choose to highlight in your application and what you've chosen to pursue outside of school and make a name for yourself in

send the post if you come across it again

oof

[pine rain]

this is pretty much me oops

my awards are all from different disciplines

[harsh sentinel]

im lowkey relying on my spike in my major to get in bcuz its an unconventional major and i have a pretty long spike

[pine rain]

from data science to physics to math to computer science to applied geography to music

[real herald]

i might be cooked ngl

i dont have enough of a spike

😔

[harsh sentinel]

data science + physics + math + cs comes under stem so i think if you can make your spike stem that could work

[pine rain]

dawg i don't have like 10 extracurriculars all oriented in the same field

[pine rain]

stem is a pretty fucking broad field

[harsh sentinel]

your spike isn't only about a major

[pine rain]

oh i'll just choose research then

lmfao

id write the thing about my research topic

does research event count as a spike

[harsh sentinel]

i saw this post which talks about spike like it's also about your values as a person. like your spike could be creating things and your ecs could range from mechanical engineering to writing a book but they both come down to a love of creating

are you cracked enough tho

[pine rain]

i need to think about this application from the perspective of a communicator

i need a solid reason for them to say "admit billert"

i don't have any physics extracurriculars lmao

[harsh sentinel]

ok but is it a bad idea to write all the essays about one thing

[pine rain]

my ass could never work at a pyhsics lab

[rare herald]

yeah ive made one of my ec descriptions sound fire

the rest suck

[harsh sentinel]

doesnt have to be physics, they were just giving an example

different things that connect back to the same overall interest?

[rare herald]

hmm

[harsh sentinel]

like let's say i did 2 different volunteering activities in the same field, if i talked about each one in an essay is that fine

[pine rain]

if i'm all over the place they'll just feel bad for me

[harsh sentinel]

what field do you have the most ecs+awards in

[rare herald]

if my ec's are scattered but have somewhat of a emphasis on a major thats ok right

[pine rain]

i think they're evenly distributed

[rare herald]

i asked my friend if she could tell my what major im applying to from my ec list and she said english or sociology 💀

[pine rain]

i don't usually get a lot of awards in a field

i just try to compete in the biggest competitions i find

yea

[rare herald]

i saw an AMA

[pine rain]

didn't i show you my ec list @dim badge

[rare herald]

theres some state/natl level awards that they look for

at least the top colleges in general

[real herald]

it was so bad bro

you only had 3 intl awards

and 2 non profits

smh

get better g

[native loom]

i mean they are but

its just the one

[pine rain]

💀 for a second i was worried i accidentally showed my shit to you

i have 2 intl awards

[harsh sentinel]

what field?

[rare herald]

yeah it is but doesnt matter

i got a natl award but its unknown

lmao

[native loom]

honestly im just not good enough for it

[rare herald]

yes u are

[harsh sentinel]

also what do you wanna major in @\sleepy billy

[rare herald]

if theres an app then yeah u r

[harsh sentinel]

wait how 💀

[rare herald]

hmm

hmmmm

i cant lie im not a liar

[pine rain]

many things but as of now i'm putting data science

because it covers a lot of things

[native loom]

CS, i did an interesting part of FRC programming + some certifications in java and im doing an internship rn

[rare herald]

itll come back to bite u probs

i mean i stand by what i say. even if u get into an elite school itll come back to you

[harsh sentinel]

yeah but can't they like idk gauge if its national or not

[harsh sentinel]

same 😔

[harsh sentinel]

then make that your spike?

[rare herald]

also i just wanna say ur college list is wild

i love it

[harsh sentinel]

thats pretty cool!!

no bcuz honestly even if they dont find out if you lie, i just wouldn't be able to live with myself

like imagine getting into a top university and the entire time you're there you have this feeling that you got in on a lie

even if the lie was something as small as saying you have idk 250 volunteer hours when you only have 100

[rare herald]

yeah that and imposter syndrome

1 safety 20 reach list

[native loom]

idk just not several hundred nonprofits

[pine rain]

this is me

but its 1 safety

16 reach

[rare herald]

how are the essays going

[pine rain]

because my safety is actually fire

[rare herald]

that sounds terrible

[pine rain]

commonapp done

stanford supplementals in progress

[rare herald]

i have like 20 essays for all the schools im applying to

[pine rain]

i have a fire princeton graded paper

you know what i'm talking about right

[rare herald]

16 t20s?

[pine rain]

not all of them are t20s

[rare herald]

yeah the graded paper req

[pine rain]

e.g. columbia

[rare herald]

t25s lol

[rare herald]

nonprofits 💀

i was thinking on submitting a paper on get out the movie

but lmao i 100 percent will not be applying

[pine rain]

wait this is slightly unrelated to the convo but do uchicago supplementals have a word limit

what the fuck

[rare herald]

even tho i have sibling legacy

[pine rain]

im trying to figure out how much i'm gong to have to write

[rare herald]

i think so

they mention it

lol

that school is awesome

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they do give us an extra reader

[real herald]

i mean its national honor society

but yea i put it as school

[harsh sentinel]

bro wtf how yall done with essays already

i just have like 20 shitty first drafts and nothing completed

also my college list is like. 10 reach 10 target 10 safety help

[real herald]

30

holy

[harsh sentinel]

i just wrote 3 pages and called it a day yk

yeah i dont plan on applying to everything tho

im doing like 7 ea and then based on the decisions of those, ill apply rd

ahhhhhhh makes sense

my summer was one month and my parents decided to take an intense vacation

like take us on

so i had no time during summer tbh

and school started in june

🤩

[wintry delta]

Spike theory has been debunked for a bit
There's some posts on the subreddit wiki that go over it

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send

[ocean badger]

‘spike theory’ 😭

[wintry delta]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/j645sf/you_dont_have_to_be_spiky_but_please_dont_be/

Also Yale admissions podcast

[nova ruin]

Yh!!
Top Colleges are looking for a WELL-ROUNDED CLASS not a well rounded person apparently 😭

[harsh sentinel]

Allen Chang's explanation of spike theory makes sense intuitively

https://blog.prepscholar.com/how-to-get-into-harvard-and-the-ivy-league-by-a-harvard-alum

[rare herald]

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[rare herald]

no comment

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why no comment

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ohh

LMAO sorry

i meant to reply to something else

[rare herald]

ehh legacy is a bit weird. no shade to u tho

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ive been replying to so many wrong messages lately

[rare herald]

my keyboard has been making so many typos lately

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def is

[rare herald]

is weird or shade to u

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i meant to respond to if legacy gets benefits

[rare herald]

bro 100 percent yes

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i dont agree with it, id get rid of it in my cycle if it was gone for everyone

[rare herald]

shhhh

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even tho it benefits me it locks the doors for so many other people

[rare herald]

yeah thats true

[rare herald]

the system is unfair tho in so many other ways but legacy always gets highlighted as the most controversial

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bc its the biggest issue

[harsh sentinel]

WHYS IT SO LONG

[nova ruin]

Not really an issue tbh😭

Legacy funds the school

[rare herald]

honestly thats so false

[rare herald]

they can find funds other ways

[nova ruin]

And provides a lot of financial support

[rare herald]

lots of schools have banned legacy consideration

[nova ruin]

Basically paying back to their Alma mater

[rare herald]

and they are FINE

[nova ruin]

But with a return

[nova ruin]

Yeah Amherst

I think JHU too

[rare herald]

they dont deserve a boost regardless of how much money they donate.

[nova ruin]

If they’re capable, the boost isn’t too bad imo

[harsh sentinel]

honestly i think legacy is fine as long as you had aa to balance it out

now it's just one sided because of scotus

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it underhands their so-called values of diversity

[rare herald]

i mean maybe u have a diff perspective bc intl

[rare herald]

yeah they have all sorts of quotas

[nova ruin]

Hmm

[ocean badger]

being capable does nothing to mitigate the issues people say legacy causes

[nova ruin]

They have other ways to fill in diversity

[dim badge]

if theyre accepting legacy for money then why are we paying 80k tuition

tbh im a rare case of diverse legacy 😭😭

[nova ruin]

Makes sense 😭😭

[rare herald]

yeah lmao

[nova ruin]

Many schools aren’t big on legacy afaik

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extra reader goes a long way

[rare herald]

no.

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not really scotus removed that

[rare herald]

if theyre tryna increase a certain kind of diversity doesnt legacy admission take away from that

[rare herald]

essays 😭

[nova ruin]

Legacies CAN BE in a diversity

[nova ruin]

This!!!

That’s why Harvard changed their essays

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i mean thats true, but most legacys are pretty wealthy so its like similar perspectives

[rare herald]

this is one of the few kinds of diversity that i dont argue for.

truly

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in order to have true diversity you need people of differing socioeconomic classes

[nova ruin]

Makes sense

[rare herald]

ppl who spend all day on reddit

[nova ruin]

Never do a chanceme

Reddit people are obsessed with college apps

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and arent really connected to their culture

[rare herald]

yeah

[nova ruin]

Only 20% of accepted applicants are legacies

Y’all chill😭

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thats a lot

[rare herald]

ik people say being LI helps even a little in admission but yall have no idea how many doors it closes anyway

low income

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many fgli and urm dont even make it out of high school in the first place

[rare herald]

i agree but banning it doesnt help rlly

[nova ruin]

How many doors does it close?

[rare herald]

maybe we shouldnt talk abt this

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ecs

resources

ur on ur own

[rare herald]

so much.

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no guidance

[nova ruin]

Very true

[dim badge]

every high performing fgli has paved the way themselves

[nova ruin]

Had to get all those on my own

[rare herald]

you cant rlly count it. its something u gradually discover over time.

[nova ruin]

When some random kid in an international school got an internship with the Bank of America 😭

[rare herald]

ive discovered things like fly ins bc ive researched extensively resources for ppl like me

[nova ruin]

Didn’t read what you meant!
I get you!!

[rare herald]

ik people who are like me but have zero guidance, which is why i hate college admissions

[nova ruin]

Yeahh. There should be lots of non profits helping FGLIs tbh😭

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tbh also being urm just in general can be detrimental as well

[rare herald]

well yeah im just elaborate chill out

[nova ruin]

Being LGBTQ is also a URM

[rare herald]

idk i feel like even for fly ins a lot of urms, not rlly low income were at the fly in

which isnt bad or anything

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i dont think so anymore

39% of brown is lgbtq

[nova ruin]

Crazyyyy

[rare herald]

but if they wanna cater towards low income folks do more

[dim badge]

many of the ivy leagues have high populations of lgbtq

[rare herald]

wow

[nova ruin]

Yeah exactly
The focus should be on low-incomes tbh

[nova ruin]

Didn’t know about this wow

[dim badge]

its not the same as urm but its definitely not an advantage

[rare herald]

i dont know. a lot of ppl know a2c and all these resources. i wish fly ins were advertised in low income communities

these colleges only have our emails by us taking ap exams

and some low income schools dont offer them'

so they should find another way

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i heard it was 50

mb

[rare herald]

yeah lots of ppl ik are applying to 3 schools (all less selective, state schools) which isnt bad but i wish they could know more abt their options.

no hate to state schools or anything i just wish my high school would actually tell us how to build a balanced college list

not just add a ton of rolling deadline schools

[nova ruin]

Exactly this is so unfair and this makes the rigor of their high school look undemanding

[weak pasture]

how do you attach images

[nova ruin]

Exactly
My counselors tells us to apply to only HBCUs

[rare herald]

fr?

dang

[nova ruin]

Yeah. She’s like “don’t be delusional, Harvard WILL reject you”

Well she’s not wrong💀

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nah definitely still apply

[weak pasture]

Harvard has L engineering programs

def will not apply

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but you should also apply to hbcus too

[nova ruin]

Umm…cross registering at MIT

but yes don’t apply

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use both of ur resources

[nova ruin]

Reduce competition

[weak pasture]

if you're good enough for Harvard just apply to MIT

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are u applying to howard hogwartian

[nova ruin]

Definitely thanks haha

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nah harvard and mit look for drastically different kids

u can get away with having a mid sat and still get into harvard

[nova ruin]

They’re so bad with financial aid yikes

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really??? damn

[nova ruin]

REAL

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it sounds like such a cool school

[nova ruin]

Yh😭

[nova ruin]

IT IS COOL

Used to be my dream till they stopped financial aid policy in 2022

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what did they change

[nova ruin]

Not if you’re a social studies major

[nova ruin]

Stopped giving financial aid to internationals

Now they just have merit schollys that are about 20% of tuition

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nah thats dumb asf, the intls is what made howard so great

[rare herald]

6/15 on essays howww

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on schools

[rare herald]

bruh i only drafted unc and some state schools

[nova ruin]

This!!

[rare herald]

ahhhhhh

[nova ruin]

Man is devoted 😭

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most of the schools didnt have supps

[rare herald]

wow

did u submit ur stanford app?

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not until october

[nova ruin]

Michelle are you still going test optional?

[rare herald]

i got my safeties locked in

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both of us are yeah

[rare herald]

but i gotta finesse my unc app

[rare herald]

idk my act is iffy

its high but not high high

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same with my sat

[rare herald]

i will for some schools others i will not

[nova ruin]

Ahh same

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r u applying dartmouth

[nova ruin]

ECs will carry 😭

[rare herald]

i think i will if i have time

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what other schools r u applying btw

[rare herald]

i reduced my list lmao bc the amt of reaches was insane

literally i had like 11 reaches

[nova ruin]

Georgia state is my safety 🤗

Already have 3 safeties with full rides

So just focusing on the big dogs Ig

[rare herald]

wow u got in full ride?

[rare herald]

gstate w for public health btw

[nova ruin]

Grambling state (HBCU)

[nova ruin]

Fr???

[rare herald]

pretty sure they work with emory on public health stuff and have a cdc connection

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have u looked at emory

[rare herald]

yeah

[rare herald]

yeah!

[nova ruin]

Wow omgggg

Thought the 100% acceptance rate meant otherwise 😭

[rare herald]

it sounds rlly nice! im totally applying

[rare herald]

feels like a more realistic reach lol

[nova ruin]

Emory is slay

Premed at Emory is amazing

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i did a summer camp there

it was awesome

i cant apply tho cuz they dont have engineering

[rare herald]

is the campus cute

[nova ruin]

Where are you guys EDing?

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yes

[rare herald]

nowhere

[nova ruin]

Or REAing or EAing

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stanford rea

usc ea

[nova ruin]

W!

[rare herald]

ea usc, unc, umn, madison and macalester

might ea uchicago

[nova ruin]

Hope I get in too😭
Would do public health + film here

[rare herald]

idk if i vibe w/uchi but their supps are amazing

[nova ruin]

Macalester is bae

Twin cities are amazing

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i hope i get into stanford 🙏🙏

[nova ruin]

😭real

[nova ruin]

Manifesting for you

[rare herald]

non binding ea is the way

[rare herald]

id be so happy if i got into any of my ea school tbh

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same i hope i can score uwash at the very least

[nova ruin]

You’d do umn and Madison easily

[dapper gale]

Besides USC are there any priv EA schools in the t100 that Stanford rea kids can apply to

All the ones I see only have ED not EA :/

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Some lacs maybe? I believe Stanford has a rule though that only allows you to apply ea to privates if that’s when they do scholarship consideration

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you dont have to stanford rea

^

like we said, theres no advantage to it unless your legacy or donor

It really won’t make a difference unless you’re hooked

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not even then

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I feel like it varies cause there was this one girl here

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she prob wouldve gotten in rd

like its the same chances

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Probably but I’m guessing most people who get in rea would get in rd

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yeah definitely, and thats why its not necessary if you want to ea to more schools youd have a better chance at in that round

Real

basically its an opportunity cost, would u rather find out if youd get into stanford sooner or ea to mit, caltech, usc and have slightly better chances or benefits or earlier decisions

[native loom]

caltech is rea now

[rare herald]

bro tryna eliminate the competition ☠️

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LOL

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ong but hes not in my area so i dont gotta worry

[rare herald]

nobody's in my area so i dw abt this server 💀

[dapper gale]

Ik i don’t have to but there’s no school I want to ED so why not? None of the other schools on my list that are private even have EA besides MIT which equally doesn’t help lmao

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well you were asking about other t100 schools with ea lol

[dapper gale]

Ye I was

Caltech I think is rea

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yeah thats new

still mit, tulane, lots of lacs

[rare herald]

fr im actually manifesting an emory acceptance

wwwww school

esp for my major

but theres lots of premeds

so idk abt the atmosphere

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im just saying if u didnt apply rea it wouldnt hurt

ur chances are the same regardless

[rare herald]

major?

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its awesome

everyones nice

[dapper gale]

Meh mit EA is just as unlikely as Stanford REA so might as well do it for Stanford as I prefer it

[rare herald]

yaya!

[dapper gale]

Same as you I think(?)… STS

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then go for it!

[rare herald]

nah im applying as a public policy major but if stanford is your first choice go for it

good luck seriously

[dapper gale]

Tyyy and you both as well

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u apply neu or uchicago

btw?

[dapper gale]

Nah I don’t like chicagos core and I don’t like how neu overflowed so they kicked ppl into hotels or onto different campuses for their freshman year

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yeah ok id go with the stanford rea too

[rare herald]

if i end up at emory id be rlly happy i think

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im sure u got a decent chance

youll prob get washu

[rare herald]

ehh im not too pressed on washu

[rare herald]

they dont have my major 💀

[dapper gale]

My school had this odd fixation with WashU for like several years

[rare herald]

so weird

[dapper gale]

This one kid got into Harvard, Stanford, Yale and chose WashU even though he got the same aid for all 4

And so did like 10 other ppl in his grade (they didn’t have as good of a choice as he did but still so many chose WashU)

[rare herald]

hmm maybe its the atmosphere

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dont blame him

[rare herald]

i like it

i think its probs v different than harvard or yale

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i might choose dartmouth over stanford if i get into both

[dapper gale]

Yes definitely a different vibe

[rare herald]

midwestern homey vibes lol

[dapper gale]

And I mean he later went to Harvard med so 🤷🏻‍♀️

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yeah its just taste

[rare herald]

washu good for premed

[rare herald]

i dont think id go to harvard or stanford from this list even if theyre more prestigous

[dapper gale]

Are you rea Stanford?

[rare herald]

nope!

rd

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i would choose most schools over harvard tbh

even unc chapel hill or another t30

[rare herald]

even 😭

[dapper gale]

Are you in state

Cus otherwise I would not be paying the tuition for that

[rare herald]

bruh unc is goat at lots of majors

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ik

unc is really good

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i hate harvard

im just saying id choose a great state school over harvard

[dapper gale]

Fair I hate Princeton (eating clubs 💀)

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if it came down to my state school and harvard, id prob choose harvard tho

[rare herald]

honestly i think i would (not full tuition) if it was between my state school or harvard but if it was between like emory or harvard id probs choose emory

tho tastes change over time

[dapper gale]

Are you ED Emory then?

[rare herald]

nope

i literally cant do ed

[dapper gale]

My state school will give me essentially free tuition thanks to my sat scores so it’ll take a lottt for me to give it up as well

[rare herald]

ed emory has a rlly good boost

i kinda want to but ed is binding which is a bit scary

[dapper gale]

Fr, I would Ed Cornell but I don’t want to be stuck w it down the line

Especially since I would always have the question of “could I have gotten Stanford, Harvard, Yale, etc”

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thats why im rea

[rare herald]

ed ripoff ngl

unless its questbridge

[dapper gale]

So true 💀

[pine rain]

ive heard applying rea is harder than applying rd

[dapper gale]

I wouldn’t say it’s harder more that the ppl applying rea are like the cream of the crop

(Or they’re recruited athletes, hooked)

[pine rain]

e.g. i've heard of readers making references in admissions files saying

"this person would be a clear admit in rd"

"not so sure in rea"

[dapper gale]

Yea so then they defer they won’t straight reject

Stanford does very little deferrals compared to other rea schools

[pine rain]

yea

applying early and getting rejected feels so bad

[dapper gale]

Tbh I’d rather that then getting a meaningless deferral and having my hopes go up for nothing

[ocean badger]

this was a thing in a file analysis on the a2c reddit

[pine rain]

nah i'd like that

cuz you know there's at least hope

and then you continue with your other applications with belief in yourself

[dapper gale]

Harvard and MIT’s deferrals are glorified rejections

They reject like 80% or something

So it’s no use in hoping but that hope might prevent you from EDII somewhere else that you could’ve gotten

[pine rain]

not necessarily glorified rejections

it's just that they don't mean anything

they defer almost everyone

i know people who have been deferred and then accepted

80% doesn't say anything

[nova ruin]

Yeah this!

[narrow jacinth]

https://ucomm.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2023/03/CDS_2022-2023_v3.pdf

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im pretty sure everyone in this chat is

besides michelle

shes just weird

[narrow jacinth]

not me

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im done

and sure

it means im a hater

of everything

no

im waiting

bme

you?

nice

you legacy?

oh nice gl

oh yeah lmao

idk

not confident

its unpredictable

i think i stand a chance ig

u?

gl

im applying to 15 schools so gotta rush

nope

probably

most of my shit doesnt relate to bme

no

they dont admit by major

where else are you applying

[pine rain]

are you an isef qualifier

what does fob mean btw

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nice

uwash is based

really not dartmouth??

[pine rain]

does fob mean first generation

so your parents were immigrants?

or you're an imimgrant

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its not

dartmouth has the quarter system

their cs is renowned

[pine rain]

dartmouth is a good undergrad school

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it has very similar academics to stanford with probably easier stem

[pine rain]

unfortunately i am not applying

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easier doesnt mean easy lmao

they take a very theoretical approach to everything

you looking into med school?

yeah

[pine rain]

didn't rpi place really well in putnam

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thats one of the highlights of dartmouths bme program

is its designed for premed

but they also have other approaches too

they are a very flexible school where you can study practically everything you want

#📝-essays but i wouldnt recommend sharing it publicly

leadership within a community

i dont know

its like essays too

not just ecs

[calm condor]

YOH ME

[calm condor]

bme gang

[lusty magnet]

hail nah

[weak pasture]

where're my EE people at

[nova ruin]

You’re bme?
Are you gonna do bioengineering or biomedical computation

If you win ofc

[nova ruin]

They also have an early assurance program to medical school

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depends on the school

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ik its great

[nova ruin]

for stanford

[rare herald]

my Ec’s are policy centric with some hobbies mixed in

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prolly biomedical computation

its a mix of a degree that could land me some jobs in both cs and bme

maybe bme tho

[nova ruin]

Same but including public health in biotech

[nova ruin]

But idk if biomedical engineers are considered engineers tbh

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they are

they literally take the engineering core

theres jobs called biomedical engineers

[nova ruin]

Apple still ain’t taking them

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well im not tryna be a biomedical engineer

im doing it for premed

[stoic stag]

hi

is REA for internationals really that better than ED

[pine rain]

stanford doesn't have ed

[stoic stag]

oh a typo, no I meant REA and RD sorry my bad

but like is there anyone aware of the percentages

all the blogposts in my country just state how many people get admitted into stanford each year(it's like 10~20, that's a few) but it fails to document how many people even apply to them, for all we know it may even be less than 200, idk

[pine rain]

afaik there shouldn't be a significant advantage applying rea

[stoic stag]

WHAT r u fr rn

[pine rain]

where tf did u hear rea is an advantage

[stoic stag]

well for almost all schools applying the early round DO have an advantage so I just assumed there is

is there not?

[pine rain]

that's mainly for early decision type schools right?

i can't imagine ea schools giving a significant advantage

[stoic stag]

I have seen an article where the overall chance was like 10%

https://www.ownyourownfuture.com/stanford-rea-acceptance-rate/#:~:text=REA is a non-binding program that allows students,acceptance rate at Stanford hovers around 9-10%25.

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nope your chances are the same

theres rumors that its worse but thats only speculation

[stoic stag]

wdym

what

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they literally say the chances for the early round are the same

its inflated by recruited athletes and legacy/donor

[stoic stag]

ahh ic

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cuz those are who are applying early round

[stoic stag]

what about cornell

or different prestigious schools

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do they have demonstrated interest

[stoic stag]

what does this mean

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like how interested a kid is in the school

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nope

duke ed i think helps from what ive heard

usually ur ed chances are gonna be the same as ur rd chances

[stoic stag]

wdym nope

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unless ur legacy/donor or recruited athlete

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it doesnt increase ur odds

[stoic stag]

even when I'm international?

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ur odds are lowered in general as an intl lmao

[stoic stag]

no, relatively

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nope

itll be the same regardless

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state schools ea matters a lot so keep that in mind

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actually uchicago and northwestern yield a considerable ed boost

if you want to ed consider those schools

[stoic stag]

let's go to general how about that

it's not about stanford anymore here

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like wdym

ohh

[pine rain]

cornell has an advantage

because it has ed

i think it boasts a 24% ed acceptance rate

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i heard it doesnt

[pine rain]

ed almost always offers a boost

does it not

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cornell admissions has stated that it doesnt

[native loom]

is that probably because legacy and athletes

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this is only for cornell tho

[native loom]

can you source?

cause then i almost def dont do cornell

oof

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you still should though

bc there are mixed sources online

[native loom]

nah its also considering whether i choose it over my current top choice (an oos public)

atm GT is basically my dream but im looking more at cornell

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you shouldnt ed based on your chances unless it offers a significant disadvantage in rd (uchicago)

it should be if you really wanna go there lmao

[native loom]

yeah its deciding if i ed cornell or no ed basically

if it turns out its a better/dream option

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hmm, actually cornell does seem to offer a boost based off other peoples encounters with admissions officers

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this is cc tho so take w a grain of salt lmao

yeah several people are saying ed has less competition so it sounds like it offers a boost in that regard

you do you tho, if you wanna go to gtech over cornell, dont ed

@pine rain yo i think you might be right bc from a business standpoint the more kids they accept ed, the higher yield rate, they can say that your chances arent higher but statistically they seem to be

yale has scea tho

we're talking ab cornell ed

ohh lmao nahh

stanford rea is around the same from an official statement

but speculation assumes its harder

yea but thats yale not stanford

stanfords admissions is pr diff from yale

yk thats fair

but its speculation ultimately

basically confirms yale scea is harder tbh

[harsh sentinel]

why so

[harsh sentinel]

Also why

[rare herald]

No even for uchi

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nah its just that rd is impossible

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cuz they offer more scholarship money and priority consideration

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wdym why? so ur not binded to a school thats not ur first choice

[harsh sentinel]

no i meant the uchicago part

are there statistics for that somewhere?

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wait

hold on

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https://chicagomaroon.com/27081/news/yield-rate-rises/

[harsh sentinel]

thats yield rate

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thats because of ed

heres someone explaining it

its a pretty well-known fact too, ask everyone who goes to uchicago lmao

[harsh sentinel]

im too humanities for this shit

but anyways uh guess there's no point applyying ea anyways

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dont just apply bc of the statistics

shoot ur shot

ea still counts as part of the early admit plans

[harsh sentinel]

yeah obv plus fee waiver and i wrote a banger essay so im not losing much

but i was lowkey looking forward to getting in

[dim badge]

ur chances of getting in even ed are low anyhow, so tbh looking forward to anything just is gonna hurt u more

the best advice is to just expect the worst lmao

[harsh sentinel]

i mean im doing that with all other schools stanford included but i feel like my uchicago essay is just. like idk. very cool. i love the idea i love the prompt i love these little easter eggs i've put in it and yeah. plus my stats ecs are all great so im encouraging my delusions lmao

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haha i feel u, my friends hype me up all the time and make me delusional too

[harsh sentinel]

imagine sharing stuff with your frieds 💀

[dim badge]

we help eachother with essays

so we need to know our extracurriculars

[rare herald]

ea is impossible but im hoping for the best😔

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always worth a shot

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are u doing stanford rea btw

cuz i dont think u can do uchicago ea and stanford rea

[harsh sentinel]

i originally wanted to but financial aid is a factor for me so I wanna apply to as many schools as possible and if i apply stanford REA i can't do any privates ea and all public eas give decisions after January so ill end up applying to 20+ schools rd so now im just gonna ea to like 6-7 schools and then based on those decisions apply rd

you didn't need the info dump sorry oops

but no im not doing stanford rea

im doing uchicago ea + a bunch of privates

[native loom]

me neither

[dim badge]

W choice

[harsh sentinel]

if stanford wants me they can wait till January 😩✋

[native loom]

fair warning you’ll probably be deferred bc they want ed (chicago)

personally im debating ED or not ED cornell

[harsh sentinel]

banking on my insane essay to get me in

[native loom]

but theyre giving like zero aid so itll be too expensive

[harsh sentinel]

i can't ed anywhere bcuz of financial constraints so :/

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im only rea cuz legacy

[harsh sentinel]

ah

are you cracked

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i mean i think i have unique ecs and essays

[harsh sentinel]

interesting

Major?

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bme prolly

[harsh sentinel]

well gl

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i love humanities too

[harsh sentinel]

what's nas

[rare herald]

true

[dusky pumice]

i too, am very unique

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we all are 🔥🔥

[weak pasture]

I am unique but not diverse

[burnt sparrow]

unique, but not like the others

[dusky pumice]

im not like the other girls

[weak pasture]

same

(I'm a guy)

[dusky pumice]

(me too)

[calm condor]

.-. Damn ur all unique

[calm condor]

.-. but that could be just ur school

;-; not trying to say ur not unique but in all seriousness, that doesn't mean much

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stanford is my dads friend

[dapper gale]

Do they even give boosts for legacy anymore 🤔 ik they never valued it as much as the ivies do

[pine rain]

they do

16% acceptance rate

[dapper gale]

Damn I stand corrected

[pine rain]

at least that's the latest number i remember

[dapper gale]

Is legacy only for undergrad degrees or is it masters/PhD as well

[pine rain]

it might've dropped because stanford probably has to get more and more selective

[pine rain]

i THINK PhD but i could be wrong

i forget how they word it on the commonapp

they definitely ask if you have legacy or not

[dapper gale]

Yea I think it's prolly dropped a bit and compared to the ivies it's not as significant but these schools all care for their name brand/endowment - legacy is the easiest way to "guarantee" some endowment

[dapper gale]

Yea I remember seeing that on my application

I wonder how schools like cmu who dropped legacy are going to evaluate differently now

[pine rain]

apparently it was 14% this year

[clever grove]

Stanford

[calm condor]

.-. Stanford

[nova ruin]

Midford

[calm condor]

💀 why are yall other schools hating on stanford

[lusty magnet]

ong

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why the .-. before

[calm condor]

habit of using .-. Lol

Doesn’t mean anything

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dont you disrespect stanford like that 😠

[calm condor]

💀 I’m not

Boy missed the comment below mines

[clever grove]

Do I submit a 33 ACT to Stanford?

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yes

[clever grove]

Lol are you in all of these too

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im only in columbia and stanford

and dartmouth

[calm condor]

honestly i wouldn't because of their grading rubric

but thats just me .-.

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stop doing this face .-.

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wdym

its good in their grading rubric

u submit generally if its 25th or higher

[calm condor]

.-. no reason not to

[calm condor]

well stanford grades on a 1-6 rubric. 1 being the best. i would give 36 a 1 35 or 34 a 2 33 a 3

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how would you know thats how they grade act though

[calm condor]

ofc i could be wrong but given their act average

[calm condor]

.... they shared information

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1 could be a 36-34

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they never shared that information

[calm condor]

Average ACT: 34. average = 3

[calm condor]

admission files?

also they did share information about "1-6 rubric"

not sure about what act score is which but look at the average .-.

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that might be their average act but it could still be in the 2 range because its a high act

[calm condor]

.-. its a high act yes

but to stanford its average so they can't give a 1 or 2

2 is actually exceptional

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you dont know that

like theres no way to determine if this is the case

[calm condor]

if you have all 2 in all your categories, ur guaranteed in

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like theyve talked about their rubric

but they might not even score test scores on that rubric

they could group them with just academics in general

which is what they probably do

like

[lusty magnet]

so is everyhting equal on the 1-6 scale

like

[calm condor]

they have a separate test category

[lusty magnet]

if my academics are 1-2, essays 2-3

[calm condor]

yes

[lusty magnet]

ecs are like 3

will that get me in

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u mean based off the common data set?

[calm condor]

they average it

[dim badge]

the test category is generally marked in the same group as academics

[calm condor]

no... look at online admission files / student youtube posts + i believe their articles had at least one

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you will be fine submitting a 33

[calm condor]

about 1-6 rubric

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link?

[calm condor]

ill try to find

gib a second

[dim badge]

i promise u its not as simple as ur saying it is

also those admissions files are old

they were made in 2005

the admissions game has quite literally revolutionized

[calm condor]

"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rEZYzsUZu5Wc6bNYKWltAs4Jt53pPrX2/view" example

1 year ago

actually 2 years ago since its a freshman this year

[calm condor]

assuming its a 1, essay 2, ec 3. thats average 2 which is pretty good

however acchieving those numbers are hard...

"Test: 1
HSR: 2
Support: 2
EC: 2
SPIV: 2
Eval: 2+"

and ec included isef ;-;

fortunately changed to ec 1 after second reader but u can tell the readers are sometimes more critical

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still id submit the act

[calm condor]

yeah ur choice lol

[lusty magnet]

apparently isef qual is not that impressive

[calm condor]

isef 4th place

[lusty magnet]

💀

bruh

[calm condor]

his academics included differential equations and 3 outside cs courses = only a 2

[dim badge]

id have his hsr at least

thats good to know

[lusty magnet]

im not that worried

about academics

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yeah we're both in differential equations/linear lol

[lusty magnet]

i dont think anyone at my school besides maybe one guy has an edge

[calm condor]

same here .-. im just worried about my essays now

well my supp are fire but my common app is so bad (... i went through my 23rd draft yesertday

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are you rea

[calm condor]

yeah .-.

[lusty magnet]

23 drafts damn

i did my 10th today

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bro

u guys are insane

[lusty magnet]

its not fully changed each time tho

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i only had 2 drafts of my common app personal essay

[lusty magnet]

its rly more like 5 or 6 distinct drafts

[calm condor]

💀 i don't have legacy and ik that simr doesn't even give me extra points (ironically mit gives me a better grade for simr)

[calm condor]

u must be a good writer lol

[dim badge]

just a good idea

[calm condor]

.-. i have a good idea but i can't show and not tell...

💀 more of analytical essay writer instead of a narrative writer

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tbh idk why im doing rea

i should really do ed columbia