Princeton University (2023-2024)

[polar moss]

best youll get, i went to harvard to see my friend for thanksgiving and it was not good

because they have such an assortment, every dining hall has like dozens of options every meal

[cunning vortex]

damnnnn okay 😍

[frank pond]

I'm a legacy applying rea
The letter they sent said something like it's not that huge of a boost idk

[polar moss]

salad, pasta, protein, cereal, hot chocolate, coffee

[rose lava]

is it free?

[polar moss]

lol its called a meal plan!

[frank pond]

mmm pasta

[cunning vortex]

yumy yummy yummmy

[rose lava]

oh, will they pay for it if ur low income then?

[polar moss]

i mean im on over half financial aid so you could say the food is free for me

whatever you wanna attribute the aid to

[polar moss]

if u get a full ride, everything is covered

[cunning vortex]

princeton guarantees no payment if ur hosuehold makes less than 100k right

[polar moss]

did u apply rea?

[frank pond]

140k

[cunning vortex]

that's what i heard from the info sessions and campus tours

[cunning vortex]

yeahh

[polar moss]

contingent on not having like the palace of versailles in investments yes

[polar moss]

so youll love something called "late meal" we have

[cunning vortex]

is 140k and less free tuition only

[rose lava]

fairs hopefully i get it then

[cunning vortex]

oh yeah the current student talked about that on my campus tour

freshman 15 is gonna be so rela

real

[rose lava]

yh im sorted, my household makes a bit less than 6k excluding government assistance/benefits

[frank pond]

I think Princeton's finaid formula is actually smart because it's like x% of income over 100k
Unlike a certain rice university with strict cutoffs

[rose lava]

harvard makes u pay 3.5k or smth

a year

after all discounts

[polar moss]

it goes 11am-4pm then 8:30pm-10pm, and its free on meal plan. theres like actual bars for asian stir fry noodles and rice, custom made pasta, mexican bowls (like chiptole), and like a fast food hamburger and tenders grill too

[cunning vortex]

😃

[polar moss]

and sushi every day every meal

[cunning vortex]

holy crap

holy crap

[frank pond]

wtf unlimited sushi

[cunning vortex]

benefits of going to a rich school....

[rose lava]

ur confirmed in bro, u got legacy

[polar moss]

but the two late meal periods are every day in addition to ur 3 dining hall meals

[cunning vortex]

that sounds absolutely amazing

[polar moss]

so the meal plan is 5 meals a day

[frank pond]

70% of legacies are rejected

[cunning vortex]

dyk how much princeton considers stuents from rural areas

[polar moss]

i just got salmon avocado rolls 2 hours ago

[rose lava]

yh and 30% arent, im sure you would be confident if u applied rea ur a cold applicant

[polar moss]

LOL

[cunning vortex]

it would be amazing to get in rea but i feel like im now more aware of reality

[frank pond]

I suppose we find out on judgement day in like 14 days

[rose lava]

nice i never had sushi

[cunning vortex]

legacies dont guarantee admission tho

[rose lava]

😟

icl im worried

but ill try not to think abt it

[frank pond]

I have way too much schoolwork rn

The days are passing by fast

[cunning vortex]

real

[polar moss]

i mean are you like stacked

a bit

[frank pond]

I have unpublished undergraduate research as my main ec

[polar moss]

if you are a legacy and didnt sit on your ass for all of high school, good chance rea lol

the legacies i know who got in rea are not that bright

[frank pond]

Everything else is just hobbies

[polar moss]

😂

[rose lava]

cold

[polar moss]

what was it on

[frank pond]

ML and energy storage mediums

[polar moss]

hmm yeah idk, they like to see commitment and achievement shown in at least a few ways or deeply in one

[rose lava]

i did mine on Natural Language Processing

[polar moss]

hobbies without substantive reason look lazy

[frank pond]

Well I call them hobbies lol

I do event organization and art

[polar moss]

its a boost because theres so few applicants relatively

[frank pond]

As well as teaching some math classes to elementary in a Chinese school

[polar moss]

and they want as much geographic diversity as possible for their optics

[rose lava]

oh nice

[polar moss]

its actually insane lol

i got a research grant 2 weeks after i got here

they just throw money at us

[cunning vortex]

Dangggg that is insane

[rose lava]

damn

[cunning vortex]

Yeah the ppl that always say like

Going to an ivy isnt worth it

Like unless u get 0 financial aid and ur gonna be in debt

I feel like theyre j repeating things that they saw on the internet

"Ur getting the same things ivy or state school" like idts..

[polar moss]

so, i think neither stance here is right

"ivy" doesnt mean anything itself, but that doesnt mean its not worth it

the resources are what you make of them

[rose lava]

opinions on harvey mudd? trying to understand why a sutton trust usa'er applied ED there when he was rlly bright and couldve gotten into stanford

[cunning vortex]

Yeahh

[rose lava]

some guy ik

[polar moss]

if you come to princeton with an open mind and eager to use it to the best of your ability, then its absolutely worth it

if you come here and slack off and choose the easiest courses and party, youre wasting everyone's time and money

[cunning vortex]

U make me want to attend princeton even more

[rose lava]

fr

[polar moss]

theres many ways to utilize this school meaningfully - research funding, conversations with professors, projects with classmates, going to panels and events to learn about stuff, choosing courses that furhter your understanding of something you care about

but its up to you to use those resources and make it worth your time

[frank pond]

@polar moss what is your opinion on the dinky

[rose lava]

100k average salary for graduates also...

[polar moss]

love it

my dorm is a 3 min walk from it

i travel for like politics stuff almost every weekend and its incredily convenient having the train station right by my res college

[frank pond]

Dang that sounds fun

[rose lava]

whats that?

[frank pond]

A 5 minute long branch line off the northeast corridor railroad

[rose lava]

oh

[frank pond]

Connects Princeton University with the main train line

[cunning vortex]

Hows spia

[rose lava]

ohh fairs

[polar moss]

well let me know asap if you get in 🫡 ill give you a tour during preview

[frank pond]

Hoping both me and my friend make it

So we can go there together

[cunning vortex]

Oh my god thank u so much 😭😭

[rose lava]

youll be the one of the first ill tell if i get in. hopefully u can give a british international a tour

btw r u on linkedin?

[polar moss]

not a fan

maybe its just my individuality complex but i will defend politics over spia til i die

we literally have all the policy solutions for every damn problem

climate change healthcare housing

what we dont have is political will to usher forth and implement those policies so im not particularly interested in what spia teaches

[cunning vortex]

Thats very valid

[polar moss]

its great - only an hour by train and shuttle to the newark airport

which ive had to go to like 4 times since ive gotten here so definitely helpful

[polar moss]

what do you wanna study

[cunning vortex]

Ahahaha

I was thinking of spia

But im also very interested in econ

Ill see when i go to college

[polar moss]

i wont support u unless u say ur gonna do politics sorry

[cunning vortex]

[polar zealot]

hello school i prolly wont go to

[polar moss]

not with that attitude!

[polar zealot]

the numbers are not in my favor

plus im going to engineering

which isint the focus of ivies

[cunning vortex]

R u applying to princeton rea

[polar moss]

scoping out the competition...

[polar moss]

that is an advantage

[polar zealot]

never applied

in fact not even ED

cause ngl my dream is an oos state school

[cunning vortex]

Can i guess where

[polar zealot]

guess

[cunning vortex]

Uiuc or umich?

[polar zealot]

no and no but they are very very high

like second and third

[bleak ridge]

damn

[bleak ridge]

really?

damn I’d be sorted if I got in

got no hope tho

[rose lava]

r u legacy aswell?

[bleak ridge]

nah i wish

just a low income dude trying his luck

[rose lava]

same, glad to know someone out there like me

[bleak ridge]

yea bro we in it together

[polar moss]

good luck !!!

[topaz glacier]

thank u!

[frank pond]

Gl

[topaz glacier]

do you like it there lake?

[bleak ridge]

thanks

[polar moss]

yeah! its a great place to be

[bleak ridge]

hopefully we’ll pass each other on campus one day

[topaz glacier]

is new york city close?

i hear its like 45 min

[polar moss]

great residential experience, town is really nice, professors accessible, etc

great for research support

[polar moss]

yeah like hour by train

[bleak ridge]

are the trains easily accessible/reliable/cheap?

[polar moss]

wel its the cheapest form of transit youll find

yeah like under $30 to nyc i think

[bleak ridge]

damn that’s not bad at all

[topaz glacier]

gosh

[polar moss]

ive been to nyc like 5 times since i got here lol im enjoying it

[topaz glacier]

i'm from ldn so traveling that long to a major city is crazy to me

[polar moss]

also orientation is wild we went between nj pa and nyc over 4 days

on some bus

[topaz glacier]

oh why?

[polar moss]

and stayed in some cabins in some campsite in rural pennsylvania

LOL

[topaz glacier]

is pa pennsylvania?

[bleak ridge]

Ayo what they be doin

[polar moss]

i couldnt tell you😭

[topaz glacier]

ur pfp is gas btw

love it

[bleak ridge]

Yea

[bleak ridge]

shit sounds fun but crazy a lil bit

do you happen to be from a warmer climate area tho? I wanna know what the weather change is like for someone not used to the cold

[polar moss]

princeton '28 is crazy lol

[topaz glacier]

thank u!! i'm learning how to be american day by day 😈 ‼️

[polar moss]

feels like just yesterday i was applying

[bleak ridge]

time passes incredibly quick

have a teacher who told me the older you get the faster time goes

mf was right

[topaz glacier]

tbh i have to disagree but that might just be my schedule 😭

[polar moss]

youll see when you start college

its an endless trek of stuff and before you know it your first semester is over

nice chatting with you prospective tigers 🫡🫡

good luck with december and i’m down to answer questions about pton if anyone has any especially if u get in rea

[sterile flicker]

any princeton people at columbia rn? i heard there were a few since the dean of SPIA is here, our tree lighting is at 7:30 but there’s been a protest going on outside the rotunda for a few hr

[tiny belfry]

wait nyc or columbia tree lighting

huh

[sterile flicker]

columbia

[tiny belfry]

they have their own tree lighting???

gw doesnt get one 💀

[bleak ridge]

thanks

[sterile flicker]

all of the trees on college walk are lit

[severe shell]

Your parents are young tho💀

[frank pond]

rebuttal: graduate school

[halcyon imp]

who applied princeton REA Here

btw any princeton students here, please go to the football analytics wintersession workshop, im helping them develop the workshop and a potential sports analytics course at princeton

[bleak ridge]

me

[polar moss]

what lol

i mean fair enough

sounds dope

[cunning vortex]

me

also for any princeotn students

or anyone that went to the admitted student orientation day

i heard pton gives out a lot of free merch that day??

could any of u elaborate 😃

[polar moss]

not that much

a water bottle

that was it 😭

and maybe like a t shirt i didn’t find it tho

[cunning vortex]

mannnnn i had my hopes up

one of my friends got into pton last yr (she couldn't go to orientation nor did she enroll) but she said ppl told her a lot of merch was provided

water bottles are cool tho :D

[wet pilot]

I wouldn't expect it to be a HUGE boost unless your parents donated a ton of money, which mine have not

[rose lava]

oh good

so only a small portoin of ppl have a massive boost

[wet pilot]

I mean, if they were accepting all legacies, that would be a decent number of people, some of which may not be academically qualified. Although, I'd like to think that most legacies are

[polar moss]

maybe i didn’t look in the right place

[polar moss]

well 13% of class is legacies

it definitely impacts lol

[wet pilot]

Right, but that's all four years, yeah?

[rose lava]

if oxford did that, then there would be outrage in the whole country

[polar moss]

that’s not how stats works 💀

it is 13% in total and 13%ish in every class

[polar moss]

plenty of stuff once u get here

for ur res college

[cunning vortex]

honestly the dinning hall food alone is like 🫶

[rose lava]

is the food rlly that good?

[cunning vortex]

and also their financial aid is just insane

[rose lava]

i never went restaurant in my life, is it like a restaurant food

[cunning vortex]

holy crap youve never been to a restaurant before?

[frank pond]

I was talking with my friend who's also applying rea and I heard him say "ok gotta change princeton to vanderbilt and switch a few class names and lab names"

[rose lava]

yh i js eat at home and get food at school because i qualify for that government free food thing in the uk

[frank pond]

In regards to the essays

[cunning vortex]

this is so relatable

[wet pilot]

You're in England right?

[rose lava]

yh

[cunning vortex]

ohh gotcha yeahh

[rose lava]

the unis here r so overrated ibsr

ppl in the usa applying oxford/cambridge i dont get it

like the ivy's r way better

[wet pilot]

My mom just wanted to go to America lol. \

[frank pond]

My parents dream of me going to Oxford

[rose lava]

Trust me, its overrated

unless ur applying for PPE

i applied oxford aswell js in case the usa stuff doesnt go to plan

[wet pilot]

Hopefully you won't need it

[polar moss]

not really

ivies are overhyped

it’s what you make it

not inherently a ticket to anything

[sudden rose]

Yeah

[frank pond]

I probably don't need that big of a boost lol, think my essays are at least decent & demonstrate fit + other stuff is good

[rose lava]

valid point

[frank pond]

From alkie's take it's like legacy won't help with any academic shortcomings but it can boost personality evaluation or whatever

[wet pilot]

That's good. Did you apply REA? I think I'm the only RD here so far, and not too concerned about whether my legacy will help.

[frank pond]

I'm rea

[wet pilot]

Nice. I applied to USC EA, so I couldn't apply to Princeton REA

[frank pond]

Some schools give exemptions for USC ea

[wet pilot]

Yeah, I contacted Princeton and they said they did not. I've heard others say that they do, but I went with what they actually told me

[quaint ledge]

🥱

[pale sonnet]

me I applied REA

[orchid axle]

anyone doing princeton for qb?

bestest of luck to u guys

[cunning vortex]

Not me but my friend is

He was individually 1st twice at hnsct

Hsnct*

[polar moss]

what is hsnct

[pale sonnet]

I think HSNCT = High School National Championship Tournament

[hollow jewel]

quiz bowl nats?

[pale sonnet]

Yes the championship is held in Atlanta GA (300+ teams)

The 2023 HSNCT was held at the Atlanta Marriott Marquis and Hilton Atlanta on May 26–28. Barrington High School’s A team (Barrington, Illinois) was the champion out of 304 teams.

The 2024 HSNCT will be May 24–26 (Memorial Day weekend) at the Atlanta Marriott Marquis and Hilton Atlanta.

[cunning vortex]

Yup that exactly

Barrington is amazing

the members are also goofy and friendly af

[pale sonnet]

are you from Illinois?

[cunning vortex]

Yeah

[pale sonnet]

Good Luck with Princeton! they admitted a lot of students from IL (like 55)

[cunning vortex]

Thank you!! Im rlly scared for rea bc i have no legacy or anything but hoping for the best 😊

[rose lava]

r u from uk applyuing to usa aswell?

icl to u

cambridge is prob the best after mit for me personally

but

oxford had my course and not cambridge

i did so many cambridge programs and summer schls and really like cambridge

they js didnt have jmc

so when i said oxbridge overrated

its more like oxford overrated

[polar moss]

@cunning vortex

custom ramen soup for lunch 💀

good luck questbridge kids

70 new tigers today!

[cunning vortex]

Custom ramen??? Thats so epic 😭

Hows the taste

That addition of cilantro makes ur taste buds elite

[rose lava]

that looks so good

[polar moss]

i told them to just put everything

there’s a half boiled egg, chicken, and beef

and chili oil that is actually kinda authentic tasting

and decently spicey

my chinese ass approves

[frank pond]

huh wtf

[rose lava]

yes my bro, i applied there aswell

be honest tho broski do u know what the lyrics mean in uk drill?

[polar moss]

LOL

they always surprise us

there’s a chocolate fountain in the rockefeller dining hall sometimes

paid for by john d rockefeller himself

[rose lava]

no way

uk schls never have any of this 😭 they js have rinsed out dry ass meals

[polar moss]

big oil money paying for my chocolate covered strawberry

so called “climate activist”

[cunning vortex]

Thats when yk it's real

I SAW AN IMAGE KF A CHICOLATE FOUNTAIN when i searched up princeotn dinning hall food omg

[polar moss]

it was fire …

[polar moss]

my tummy is full and happy walking to french 🫡

[cunning vortex]

😭im in class and ur makign me hungry

[polar moss]

late meal is crazy tbh

this would cost like $8 at some smoothie shop😂

[cunning vortex]

No fr tho 😭

Wait they have smoothies at late night meals 😲

Smoothies are one of my fav drinks

[polar moss]

late meal is 11am-4pm 8:30pm-10pm

it’s just always 😭

[cunning vortex]

Damnnn

Whats ur fav food u had at princeton so far

[polar moss]

shrimp scampi pasta

[rose lava]

if i got in, princeton would acc spoil me wtf

this shit is crazy 99% i never had in my life

[polar moss]

new tigers hit me up

i’ll show you the lore

[quaint ledge]

No, I'm studying at cam 🤗 i just like instigating college beef lol. I don't actually care abt college rivalries etc. what ive learned is that as a UG uni is what you make of it and you can pretty much get the same out of any uni you go to if you are true to yourself and your passions.

[rose lava]

oh? cambridge. WWWW

what course?

i wouldve applied cambridge if they had jmc, but only oxford had it

oxford is done out

all the widening participation stuff, i did it through cambridge. and i rlly like it a lot

[quaint ledge]

engineering

[rose lava]

cold

[quaint ledge]

so real

oxford is the only college i shit on constantly

[rose lava]

lol fairs

ox and camb beef

ox is very good for humanities like ppe

but like cambridge clears every other uni globally for stem, except mit, but virutally impossible to get in as an international

[quaint ledge]

econ and management at ox is 👌

[rose lava]

i kinda regret. applying jmc

[quaint ledge]

jmc as in maths and computing right?

[rose lava]

they take 40 ppl ish for the course

[rose lava]

yh

i think straight math or straight cs wouldve been better, and if i went with that, i wouldve applied cambridge instead

[quaint ledge]

yh a lot of the ppl here that are interested in that stuff go for straight maths

applied maths at cam is quite computing heavy, but so is the case everywhere

[rose lava]

i js like both subjects, but didnt realise it would be this competitive

[quaint ledge]

are you intl?

[rose lava]

nope from london

[quaint ledge]

ah safe

[polar moss]

the pton welcome questbridge video is cute

if anyone got in and wants to talk about pton hit me up🫡

[pale sonnet]

IMPORTANT QUESTION- I submitted my REA application to Princeton and I have two new awards (one is national and the other one I got nominated for a really important award in FL). Since it is so close to decisions coming out I am not sure if I should email my AO directly with these updates or if I should wait to use it in case I get deferred. Also should I email my regional AO or just upload a doc on the portal? Please help!

[rose lava]

how do i find my regional AO

also ill let someone more qualified answer

[pale sonnet]

Hopefully @polar moss can answer

[pale sonnet]

https://admission.princeton.edu/apply/counselors/meet-admission-team

[frank pond]

Email the office right now if you want, but if they already read your app they might not factor in the new awards

[bleak ridge]

even tho im not confident im still antsy waiting lol

[polar moss]

always email

it can only help

[polar moss]

yup

they r super nice

i talked to my ao in april

great guy

[austere wave]

might just be me but i cant find illinois

[polar moss]

its there

Seth Fiderer
he/him/his

Assistant Director

Indiana, Minnesota, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Wisconsin

[email protected]

seems like a cool dude

[austere wave]

he doesnt read illinois tho

he does indiana

[polar moss]

oh lol

im illiterate sorry

i think its either just a mistake or maybe illinois is a large enough region to where multiple people are responsible

[halcyon imp]

i shoulda connected with the AO's on linekdin before hand 💀

ok joke idk if thats a good idea

but

[polar moss]

dont do this

thats weird

[halcyon imp]

might or might have not done with other colleges

director of undergrad admissions at cornell accepted

somehohw

thought they shouldnt

[polar moss]

5+ essays is more than enough for your ao to get to know you

[halcyon imp]

my interviewer brought it up and said it was a good thing to connect but he gonna wait till after decision to make sure it doesnt look like bias

[polar moss]

where did u early

pton/mit/stanf is quite the ambitious aspiration list

[pale sonnet]

Thx I will email my regional AO and copy the general admissions email

[polar moss]

there is a place in the portal to send updates

thats where i sent mine

upload as pdf

[halcyon imp]

princeton

and the opportunity to contribute to the sports analytics course at princeton came later that day so it wasnt on my initial app

unfortunately

but

i sent an email and they put on file

[halcyon imp]

oh i sent an email to update

but yeah i guess so

[polar moss]

this could be good actually, i talked to my ao at preview and he was like "oh i definitely remember you" and laughed

seems they take their applicants personally and seriously

[halcyon imp]

yeah i mean i hope the sports analytics course thing helps considering im directly contributgin to princeton

[polar moss]

cause they have to argue for you to committee before the vote

[halcyon imp]

idk how highly theyll look at that

[polar moss]

but dont be annoying about it, one email per round is fine and otherwise use the portal

[halcyon imp]

yeah i mean

im not gonna update then with everyting

[polar moss]

i would not worry about this

[halcyon imp]

this was the only important thing

[pale sonnet]

Do you guys think uploading it on the portal or an email would be better?

[halcyon imp]

uaoffice was nice

dont send to AO

i just sent to uaoffice email

[polar moss]

it doesnt necessarily help to do princeton things on a princeton app

[halcyon imp]

well u can but i feel like general email is better

[halcyon imp]

fair

i mean it is the top ranked university itw so

[polar moss]

they are looking for depth/personality/ambitious/achievement

which doesnt matter whether you develop a course for pton or mit

[halcyon imp]

i def feel least confident about my essays

and idk how good my recs are

[polar moss]

i think if its something really notable, email. if its something you think could help but is not that interesting, portal

[halcyon imp]

not necessarily liked by teachers

but my optional research ones should be good

[polar moss]

you dont wanna be annoying unless you think the ao will see it and be like "oh wow this is a strong argument for this applicant"

[halcyon imp]

i would just add to the resume part and add to portal

isnt that for like optional mateiral

[polar moss]

yes that, plus updates

[halcyon imp]

did u do music portfolio by any chance

i realizezd so late they have one but thankfully got it in

[polar moss]

i did a performing arts one but not music

it was kind of just a side thing tho

[halcyon imp]

ah

[polar moss]

thats good, yeah they have a lot of room to really show off your stuff

[halcyon imp]

lowkey princeton appeals to me a lot cuzz of nostalgia

[polar moss]

with the arts essays

[halcyon imp]

cuz i was born there and lived near there

for like

10 years

[halcyon imp]

wait essays

well my main esasy was about the instrument and one of my interests

but essay for portfolio?

[polar moss]

oh it was just a few like "explain your background in ... this area of performing arts, how do you envision yourself contributing to the arts community on campus" etc

[halcyon imp]

huhh

is this just for performing arts

[polar moss]

plus commonapp and 6 supplementals lol

[halcyon imp]

i swear there wasnt an essay

[polar moss]

oh yeah. maybe music is just video

[halcyon imp]

oh wait

was it theater

for you

[polar moss]

and like theres lots of music kids here, they probably dont feel the need for extra essays

[halcyon imp]

yeah

idk if my instrument can even be judged

[polar moss]

im from the midwest so its an entirelt new place for me

[halcyon imp]

because its a south indian classical instrument

[polar moss]

no

[pale sonnet]

thanks for taking the time to explain I sent an email… I hope it helps (Bezos won this award and he was accepted…)

[polar moss]

hahahah

[halcyon imp]

likely date for releasee?

mid decmeber too broad

[cunning vortex]

12/14

prob at 7pm est

🥹

[bleak ridge]

might as well open the thing at school w/ my counselor then

(not confirmed time ik)

[tough eagle]

I ain’t opening that shit in public

Saving that rejection for myself and myself only

[random sonnet]

I mean it’s almost 100% going to be a weekday

And based on patterns highly likely to be 7pm ET

The schools that release on weekdays/weekends don’t usually move between those two

The only two I can name are MIT and Duke

And northeastern but that wasn’t bc they intended to

There may be a couple others, but other than Duke and northeastern’s decision fuck up the only schools that switch between weekends and weekdays tend to be ones that always release on the same numerical calendar day of the month bc it’s significant to them

So maybe like Colgate and notre dame do idk

[bleak ridge]

fair

im doin it with my counselor because bro is literally the reason i applied there

rejected or not it wont be embarassing to me

[cunning vortex]

aww u have a great counselor

MANIFESTING SO HARD RN FOR PRINCETON AHHHH

[bleak ridge]

he my bro fr entire reason i switched schools to his

manifesting for u too btw

gl

[rose lava]

i am not ready for this decision

[bleak ridge]

its gonna break me lol

[sand crane]

I’m so ready to get this over with tho

[bleak ridge]

same like im ready for it to be over but im very scared to read what itll say

have a sliver of hope

[rose lava]

I've thought a lot about how I'm going to feel in all scenarios, and I think that in no case will I feel elated. I think I'm instead going to feel deflated more than anything else, even after an acceptance; life becomes pointless for me until graduation. But holy fuck. If I get a fucking deferral, I'm going to cry.

[bleak ridge]

why not feel elated?

you would have successfully been offered admission to one of the world's leading universities

[rose lava]

Who knows though, we will see what happens.

But I'd rather be declined instantly than deferred.

At that point they're just putting me on death row.

[bleak ridge]

i mean afterward if you did get in, you would just chill, coast along in your classes just enough to satisfy Princeton and make sure you study for your AP tests if you have any

[frank pond]

if i get accepted im going to eat at the fancy steakhouse near my neighborhood

[bleak ridge]

w shit

my moms gonna be out of the state when i find out so if i get in, i wont tell her and ill surprise her when she gets home

lmfao

that would be so intimidating

[rose lava]

Also, this is true, but I'm so burned out even now I don't know how I am going to feel

[bleak ridge]

lowkey same im reaching my limit

[rose lava]

Just remember though that, just like they taught in AP Calculus, the limit does not exist.

[bleak ridge]

i just wanna get ap scholar w/ distinction so i get my name on a plaque at my school

and then im done

[rose lava]

Damn.... my school doesn't do anything like that.

They really don't like the hyper-achieving involved kids.

Like they will just shoot you down if you want to try and like skip AP Calc AB, or skip etc etc.

[bleak ridge]

damn

nah thats insane

[rose lava]

It's actually wild

The time

[bleak ridge]

my old school principal is a pastor but thats a yikes

tf they taking your lunch time for

dumb as hell

[slender citrus]

lol same

[rose lava]

Damn a pastor is crazy tho

66 essays is insane 💀

Respect honestly.

[sand crane]

Something most likely I’ll do as well HAHA

[bleak ridge]

im thinking of like getting a little present box and putting it under the tree, so when she gets home ill tell her to open it and she'll see the printed acceptance

[slender citrus]

lol if i dont get in its pointless

[slender citrus]

awwwww

[cunning vortex]

thank youuu you too 🙏

[rose lava]

That's actually awesome

[rose lava]

No matter what we have all learned a lot from the process, even if the colleges are losing out on you

[bleak ridge]

shes been like my main motivator a lot because she sacrificed a lot to see me succeed

i hope i can make her proud

same for my dad

[bleak ridge]

thanks, best of luck to you, hopefully we read acceptance letters

[rose lava]

I hope you get in 🙏

[bleak ridge]

thanks i appreciate it, hopefully you get in as well

[slender citrus]

true

[slender citrus]

same tbh with my mom

my dad lives abroad so my mom was the one who was really there for me

[cunning vortex]

it's honestly so assuring to see that

everyone else is on the same page

[slender citrus]

plus she read all my essays and provided moral support and listened to all my im gonna get rejected from everywhere rants lol

[rose lava]

W parent

[cunning vortex]

if i dont get in i feel like i wont be as sad now idk

[bleak ridge]

^

[sand crane]

W parent ngl

[bleak ridge]

honestly no matter what it is what it is

we're still gonna have lives and stuff, not the end

[sand crane]

Can you guys sleep well at night lol

I cant

[rose lava]

I have been getting 5 hours average

and I have always gotten 7-9

[cunning vortex]

i try to keep college offn my mind when i sleep

[bleak ridge]

i mean i can, the admissions process hasn't weighed THAT badly on me

im religious (not trying to force it on you guys) so i kinda just gave it to god and left it at that

[cunning vortex]

yeah i'm also religious

just gonna take it as "i wasnt ready to receive it" if i dont get in this round

and God has a better plan for me

just from a religious perspective

[bleak ridge]

yo same

thats kinda how i view it

[rose lava]

i'm not losing sleep over thinking about it, but ive grown so tired of school i'm just trying to be awake doing things i enjoy rather than going to sleep, which is an awful thing to do

[cunning vortex]

aww

i wish only the best for u

[sand crane]

Im also religious YET i cant sleep with peace

[sand crane]

Bro honestly

I’m currently doing a gap year

[frank pond]

i get like 5-6 hours of sleep on school nights but thats because i decided to take 5 ap's worth of classes

and like the hard ap's

[rose lava]

I fucked up this year with that

I'm taking 8 classes

[cunning vortex]

🙏 ahhh good luck w ur apps

[rose lava]

All AP/Advanced/Dual Enrolled

[slender citrus]

i dream of my 66 essays

[slender citrus]

kinda same but also id be crushed lol

[rose lava]

I feel like after opening my decision I'd be in the mental state to watch paint dry for about 2.5 hours

[sand crane]

So i’m honestly like on the phase of surrendering since May

[bleak ridge]

i havent loaded up on APs, just like 3 and a cc class

the schools i went to didnt offer that many

basically took every single one available besides comp sci and spanish

[sand crane]

Thanks btw, wish you the best on your apps too

[hollow umbra]

i hope to join this thread one day as a student but gl to the person who's on the 66 essays grind 🙏

[rose lava]

what do you all want to study?

[hollow umbra]

pre-med or compsi

wbu

[rose lava]

i have friends trying to do a med/compsci mixed type thing, thats hype

probably math

[slender citrus]

ty lol

its only effective if i get in 😭

[cunning vortex]

yeah

totally understandable 😭

[cunning vortex]

econ and policy

maybe data science minor

[bleak ridge]

biology on pre-med track (inspired by my mom, shes a nurse)

[orchid axle]

biology too

[rose lava]

W majors

[orchid axle]

dang we're all bio kids?

(most of us)

[bleak ridge]

real talk yea

u pre med? @orchid axle

[orchid axle]

nope

[frank pond]

i applied for CS

[orchid axle]

i'm more towards molebio

[bleak ridge]

ah aight

where are yall applying from? (geographically)

me personally LA

[orchid axle]

southeast asia

indonesia

to be more specific

[bleak ridge]

ah cool

how is it for international students applying?

yall have a good chance?

[slender citrus]

lol we gotta see aint we

[orchid axle]

in my country

0-2 ppl got in

per year

and they are usually from feeder schools

[bleak ridge]

damn

so its a long shot?

[orchid axle]

it's not looking good for me

lol

[bleak ridge]

ay who knows tho

me personally i dont think i stand a chance gpa wise

the rest of the app is pretty cool n all but gpa wise im toast

[frank pond]

assuming you applied early, the app is already out there

all you can do now is wait

distract yourself

[orchid axle]

what's the standard gpa for princeton admits?

I've never been aware of this

[bleak ridge]

seems to be a 3.9 uw from what i can observe

[cunning vortex]

southern il

[orchid axle]

ah ok

[slender citrus]

whats your gpa

[bleak ridge]

3.88w, 3.64uw

[polar moss]

dawg it’ll be 12/14

[frank pond]

is it 12/14 or 12/15

[polar moss]

it literally always is thursday

[frank pond]

i c

time to update my countdown timer on my lock screen lol

[polar moss]

depends

if your gpa isn’t good that’s not a good sign but

if you have something really exceptional you have a chance

[frank pond]

do you think princeton values somewhat oddball ecs lol
idk its like i play viola parts on my cello in my string quartet & i also run events for places like a2c, my friend group, and my 80 person hypixel guild lol

[bleak ridge]

im not really sure if i bring ONE exceptional thing, but holistically maybe i stand a chance?

[orchid axle]

^

wow

[frank pond]

i do 2 of my ec's partly on a2c lol
graphic design & event organization

[slender citrus]

i actually put that down for my ea schools 💀

watch as it backfires lmao

[orchid axle]

i just re-read my common app and I just realizedhow trash it was

[slender citrus]

lmao same

[bleak ridge]

i just opened mine to look at the activities

i think i put too many soccer related ones

[orchid axle]

my activities were kinda wack

shit

[polar moss]

it’s ok

learn for rd

it’s a learning curve to develop humility

through the process

and see how you need to improve

[orchid axle]

i feel like the message is alr there
but the delivery.. prolly not the best

[bleak ridge]

i wonder if i shot myself in the foot with my essay topic

i kinda just wrote about the personal growth prompt

[frank pond]

i really like my pricneton diversity essay

[orchid axle]

bro we're having the same problem

[orchid axle]

me too

[frank pond]

the why BSE essay... not so much

[orchid axle]

[polar moss]

nothing wrong with personal growth

it’s about delivery not just content

[orchid axle]

are you domestic / intl student?

[polar moss]

i am from michigan lol

midwest babyyy

[orchid axle]

ah

[bleak ridge]

me personally i tried to write the essay about my weight loss, stating how i felt hopeless at my worst, gained determination and confidence, and plan to excel in the future with what ive learned

basically that formula

[polar moss]

no

lol

sorry 💀

[orchid axle]

do they really fly everyone to princeton for princeton preview?

[bleak ridge]

i was curious about if it was required and how that worked

[polar moss]

they only pay if you’re low income

[polar moss]

i mean that’s good but i can’t assess without seeing the delivery

idk what this vanderbilt ao is on about

[frank pond]

what about diffeq and linalg in high school lol

[polar moss]

a weird ec that doesn’t show anything meaningful isn’t gonna get you into pton

[rose lava]

honestly

i doubt it

[orchid axle]

do you know anyone from indonesia in princeton

[polar moss]

it’s not to say you shouldn’t pursue what you want but you should also do substantive things that contribute to society or deepen your knowledge

[rose lava]

the amount of people i know applying who own discord servers rn is crazy

[polar moss]

like these schools accept 3% of applicants, it’s not about being nice or genuine or putting on a good front

they are looking for future leaders and people who will be driving positive change in some way in society

the whole “be unique and quirky” thing is just this sub culture that has come out of people not wanting to confront the fact that they didn’t do anything real in hs lol

[hollow umbra]

ive had it for 3 years so maybe that helps with showing commitment

[rose lava]

i bet youll be fine, given hopefully its not ur only ec lol

[rose lava]

im too embarrassed to put anything on my college app about discord

"a2c mod"

[polar moss]

well if you don’t have a really substantive thing whether it’s research or activism or olympiads or writing etc it comes down to your body of work and writing

which is too complex for me to make an accurate judgement of

[frank pond]

fwiw jae was accepted to cornell with a2c mod on her ec section

[hollow umbra]

like have a purpose and why is it impactful and meaningful

also is going test option for princeton possible

[rose lava]

but my ecs are already filled

[rose lava]

yes

[hollow umbra]

as in chances to get in

[polar moss]

it happens

[frank pond]

do you think modding for a2c means more to you than whatever occupies slot #10

[polar moss]

but you should have very good everything else

[rose lava]

probably not

i didnt even apply to be mod

[frank pond]

then dont put it lol

[polar moss]

no my roommate is from the philippines tho

[rose lava]

wanna see my 10th

[hollow umbra]

i plan to go test optional and hope them seeing that im in IB is enough for academic rigor 😭

[polar moss]

i mean that’s good

lots of people do that tho

like one thing isn’t gonna get u in

[frank pond]

my 10th was blank lmao and my 9th wasnt that amazing

[frank pond]

yeah ik thats what holistic review means

[rose lava]

ill send it to you

[bleak ridge]

i did volunteering in african orphanages and varsity soccer

those are 2 of my bigger ones

[sand crane]

Shit 😭 no chance for me then

Im from southeast asia too

[polar moss]

7 essays, 10 ecs, 5 awards, race, gender, income, sexuality, personality, grades, tests, courseload, ap scores, intended major

it’s a very complicated decision

[sand crane]

I wonder if like princeton considers the school you go into

[polar moss]

look it up

how many students come from indonesia yearly

[sand crane]

I think 2

[polar moss]

well good luck lol

[sand crane]

Lol

💀

[vocal pike]

they take into acc for your sexuality?

wtf lmao

thats fucked up

[rose lava]

AA discussion is banned

they no longer consider race, end of story

[random sonnet]

They don’t lmfao, half of what that college student said is easily proven as false

Guarantee there would’ve been plenty of lawsuits if they did

[random sonnet]

See above

Please check your info before spreading it, people unfortunately trust you as a college student way more than they should

Race and gender are also not considered

[ripe ibex]

#📜-rules

​Rule 2: Answer Questions with Good Intent

​Please only answer questions if you know your answers are correct. If you aren't sure, don't be afraid to double check! Share official sources where possible (e.g. school websites). If a question is subjective, you should still have some backing when approaching it. While it's okay if you need to be corrected on occasion, purposeful misinformation will receive infractions.

[pale sonnet]

where are you from?

[rose lava]

tf, thats begging it.

[white hull]

Is being published in a peer-reviewed journal at 14 (only author) "really exceptional"

[orchid axle]

that's so cool

[white hull]

It is probably not enough because I am socially inept and that fact will probably make my interviewer think I was rude to him when I am actually just completely incompetent at talking to people

[orchid axle]

apart from that i must say publishing a journal at 14 is so cool

like

to be so determined to research something at that young age

[white hull]

The determination is the only difficult part

If you're interested in the subject it's not difficult to write a paper

It's just getting interested that's the hard part

Nowadays there are so many shadow libraries that you don't even need money to do research

[orchid axle]

what's the research about if you don't mind telling me

[white hull]

And archives are starting to digitize their material for free

[white hull]

History related

About the War of the Spanish Succession

[orchid axle]

wow

[white hull]

Nowadays you pretty much just need internet access to do research

I have maybe like 50 physical books but probably over a thousand ebooks I got online for free

[orchid axle]

are you intl or domestic?

[white hull]

And sci-hub gives you access to pretty much any paper

[white hull]

Domestic

[orchid axle]

isn't this like 3-4 am

[white hull]

In California

Not in PST though

[orchid axle]

ahh

[white hull]

I also have to say

JSTOR's AI is pretty good

Especially at giving relevant sources when you look at a particular paper

I pulled up a random paper on algebraic geometry yesterday just to see what it recommended and it actually recommended relevant resources

Although I also pulled up two papers on the Rif War and it gave less relevant papers

One paper talked about Amazigh politics during the Rif War and the AI just recommended papers related to contemporary Amazigh politics rather than the Rif War specifically

I am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt though, since the Rif War is a pretty narrow topic

[polar moss]

we know this isn’t true

schools have to balance their gender ratios

if they didn’t consider gender proportion there’s nothing stopping the ratios from going way off at a school like mit

[polar moss]

i’d say that’s pretty good!

definitely uncommon and shows commitment to the work

[slender citrus]

i saw this post where someone was like "ivies choosing to reject the girl who's literally a un board member in favor of the guy who sits on his ass and plays video games all day to keep their gender ratio equal" to highlight the fact that colleges have a higher standard for girls lol

[rose lava]

yo guys how do i track my princeton financial aid

application

i sent it, but they havent contacted me via email if everythings ok

they js said recieved

but nothing on additional documents being required etc

[white hull]

I am worried because I don't really have anything else

The only other activity I listed was tutoring my mom in math

[polar moss]

dont worry about it, its good

what was the research on

[polar moss]

its definitely true💀 can confirm

[white hull]

^

[polar moss]

there is a portal!

[orchid axle]

bro i tutor my mom ms excel

[rose lava]

i checked the portal where i sent the docuemnts, is there another page i navigate to?

the initial docments*

[rose lava]

no it isn't, it's meant to get diverse perspectives, not race because they can't do that anymore

[halcyon imp]

nah bruh if u see my linkedin i literlaly connect with everyone

not because theyre AO's

[halcyon imp]

uh

this is def not true because they need to shape their class

they do this for majors as well

after admititng pepole they shape their class so that its equal rperesentation in most areas

[halcyon imp]

yeah its true

they def consider

i added before interview and my interviewer said its fine but just to make sure no bias he will onl cnonect after

[sudden rose]

lol

[halcyon imp]

yea

[rose lava]

linkedin bangouts

instagram bangouts

[bleak ridge]

research paper published is straight up insane

wonder how people even do that

[white hull]

I suppose the only real difficulty is the lack of time most students have

High school students at least

If you're juggling classes, studying, 772905 ECs, etc. then you probably won't have time to write a research paper

[hollow jewel]

work w professor

it costs 3-4k on avg to publish

getting published in high IF is insane like nature

[bleak ridge]

damn wtf

[white hull]

If Hawk is referring to research costs then you can apply for grants

[bleak ridge]

i mean now its kinda too late but the more you know

[rose lava]

free journals

[random sonnet]

Race still isn’t considered and the fact you didn’t you one bit of research there astounds me

It was literally one google search

[white hull]

Not trying to start a discussion but realistically speaking there's no way that the admissions officers never think about race and it doesn't affect their decision

Even if it only affects it subconsciously it most certainly does

There's just no world in which it doesn't

[random sonnet]

We’re not discussing the subconscious here

They legally cannot factor it in

It is blatantly misinformation to spread around that it’s considered

Argue all you want about the others, this one has legal documentation

[white hull]

Yeah but unless the Supreme Court has planted chips inside each AO's brain they can't stop individual AOs from considering it without putting it to paper

Be realistic

[random sonnet]

I’m not arguing whether or not implicit bias exists

Read again please

You do plan on going to college?

[white hull]

Yes

[random sonnet]

Alright, so let’s read again

We are talking from a legal, non subconscious standpoint

[white hull]

This is simply not a realistic standpoint

[random sonnet]

You’re arguing an entirely different thing than I’m arguing for one

I understand implicit biases exists

Like I’ve said three times now

I’ve never said they can be erased

[white hull]

I suspect that the reason that lake said race is considered is because they recognize that those implicit biases exist

[bleak ridge]

I have a question, not trying to argue of course:

How do colleges admit increasing amounts of minority students per year and maintain their gender ratio of it's illegal to consider those?

[random sonnet]

Not really how I interpreted it but that is a pathway

[cunning vortex]

yeah esp since princeton has a huge 500 word essay this yr asking about ur background and experiences

most other schools do too so i kinda assumed that was their way of seeing our diff backgrounds and stuff

(not saying it's limited to race btw)

[random sonnet]

Well for one the illegality of race is new this year save for the UCs

So we don’t entirely know how it’ll look

[cunning vortex]

imo i think colleges will try to accept more low-income students and first gen this yr but this is just an opinion

oh and rural students

[white hull]

I hope so 💀

[cunning vortex]

me too bc it applies to me haha

[bleak ridge]

I am both of those!

https://tenor.com/view/david-luiz-celebration-david-luiz-gif-25461022

[bleak ridge]

well then ig we'll see

[random sonnet]

Man I should’ve booked room for a FIFA game on my trip

(I don’t know when fifa season is)

[bleak ridge]

Euro 2024?

[random sonnet]

Ok that’s not my trip

[bleak ridge]

(FIFA is the regulatory body of football/soccer worldwide, not the league itself)

[random sonnet]

Oh

I confused then

Ty

[bleak ridge]

np

if you're travelling to Europe it'd probably be Euro 2024

hence my question

the World Cup is coming to the US, Mexico, and Canada in 2026

[pale sonnet]

well Questbridge matched more students this year 2,242 High School Seniors than last year 1,755 So it might be true

[random sonnet]

Its joever there are zero football games the week I’m there

They seem to be on bye week

At least the two I checked

[bleak ridge]

where you headed

if you're ok divulging that

id probably be able to find something

[random sonnet]

There’s literally zero chance I’d be able to get something it’s just a fleeting thought for funsies but I was looking into London from like March 19-23

I’m probably going just game wise tickets I bet are rough

[bleak ridge]

a couple things

1. london has 6 premier league teams, and plenty more under division teams

2. you would either be watching a premier league game or FA cup game depending on if a london team makes it

3. the cost isnt like america

itll set you back but probably like 200 USD or so

[random sonnet]

Yeah I was expecting it to be Canada hockey level lol

[bleak ridge]

checking it, unfortunately you're going at the international break

youll just miss out on a london derby on the 16th

it depends if the English national team will play any games then in London

but unfortunately upon checking theyre not playing any games until June

you're going at the worst possible time when there's nothing

[random sonnet]

Ripppp

Maybe next year lol

Different time

[bleak ridge]

possibly

sorry to be the bearer of bad news

[random sonnet]

Nah it’s fine I appreciate you looking into it

It’s my first time in Europe anyways so might be fun to just look around

[bleak ridge]

ye would be cool

just avoid the cabs

they charged me 75 quid for a ride from the airport to london city centre

basically 95 dollars

[random sonnet]

Bruh

Thats worse than nyc

[bleak ridge]

exactly

uber is gonna be your best friend

and if you have to travel within the country to like liverpool or something, a 4 hour coach for 18 quid is gonna be better than a 2 hour 245 quid flight

was there recently so thats kinda what i did

[vocal pike]

rly weird flex 💀

[bleak ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbid-rabbids-go-rabbids-wiimote-funny-gif-21266291

[frank pond]

HUHHH

this must be portal astrology

theres no way

wait actually where

what does that mean for rea day

was joking lol

if this actually happens i will explode

like official confirmation that the rea day is early dec?

isnt that just the finaid date for qb matches

wait actually show me proof

huh

[rose lava]

for ivies

bc of ivy policy

[frank pond]

the only other thursday it could be is thursday the 7th

[rose lava]

theres a chance then

ill dm you the proof

[frank pond]

ok

[rose lava]

but at least we have an official by then date

dec 15

[frank pond]

it said by december 15

who knows

[rose lava]

yeah ur right

it got my hopes up

[frank pond]

probably gonna be december 14

[orchid axle]

what's going on

[tough eagle]

What letter

[bleak ridge]

surely not the 7th ye?

[random sonnet]

Nah

That’s very unlikely

I’ve seen Dartmouth sometimes come out a lil earlier than the others

Princeton tends to stick with mid december

[bleak ridge]

makes sense

might as well get started on my RD private apps

[meager tulip]

hey could u dm me too? im curious abt this

[cunning vortex]

^^^me too if u dont mind

[white hull]

me three

@rose lava

[sand crane]

Me four.. @rose lava

[white hull]

How long before the decision date does Princeton usually announce their decision date

[rose lava]

it's nothing

[meager tulip]

bruh

[rose lava]

my friend sent me his qb admissions letter that said he'd receive a congratulating letter in early december

that's all

[meager tulip]

hmmm

ight

[rose lava]

it's nothing tho

bc his portal says by dec 15

[meager tulip]

i think columbia said their decision date is dec 14 @ 7pm

so i think pton is the same prolly

[rose lava]

early action dates differ

in the early rounds

[meager tulip]

oh rlly? didnt know that

hopefully sooner rather than later

[rose lava]

its only rd where they all release at the same time

[meager tulip]

the wait is killing me

[rose lava]

that's why i deleted all my msgs cuz it's nothing

[meager tulip]

yea makes sense

thx tho

[rose lava]

w

[white hull]

If Princeton sends a likely letter, do they send it through email or does it show up on your admissions portal?

[frank pond]

I highly doubt they send likely letters to non-athletes, let alone in the rea round

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/sxzas9/all_about_likely_letters/

[lapis hill]

wait fr?

[cunning vortex]

idt they send likely letters in the rea round

but i might be mistakened

[meager tulip]

Wait really?

[hollow stump]

gwa

[wooden ginkgo]

Based on the reddit post, princeton only sends likely letters to recruited athletes

[bleak ridge]

^

I believe the athletes are also why the REA admit rate is higher

[eager inlet]

does being low income give a boost in princeton rea since many kids have already matched

[orchid axle]

i don't think being low income has anything to do with a boost