but i didnt get any ivy+
#University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) (2023-2024)
fluid sky
compact trellis
Rice CS feeds well into FAANG
fluid sky
uiuc or gt def better lmao
compact trellis
Would you go to an ivy+ over GT or UIUC?
compact trellis
Brown CS is really good. Their applied math rank is like 3
fluid sky
yeah but im mainly into ai stuff
compact trellis
Makes sense but you wouldn't lose too much by going there.
compact trellis
I want to do Stats/Math + CS and concentrate in AI and Algorithms. If I can get into quant, I would go industry. Otherwise go to grad school.
fluid sky
do you mean either quant or ai?
compact trellis
Yeah
fluid sky
quant wise i know uiuc is slightly better than the rest in its tier (gt, umich, ut, etc) but gt should be similar to duke if not better due to gt having a much more rigorous curriculum that has been established among employers
ai wise gt is definitely better too
if you are 100% set on this specilization path then gt all the way, duke better for some less cs heavy more interdisciplinary stuff imo
also if u wanna transfer in college gt is prob better 😂
compact trellis
Yeah, that's true. But, I feel Duke does better than GT for QT roles based on the people that I talked to. I'm pretty sure Duke = UIUC for QT/QR placement.
Duke's curriculum is def on the lighter side
compact trellis
also if u wanna transfer in college gt is prob better 😂
Why?
fluid sky
if you are 100% set on this specilization path then gt all the way, duke better ...
actually i think this is the most important, some ppl are hardcore cs nerds some are not, like im def not a hardcore cs guy and my isef category is physics, not in soft or robotics, so i think i fit in a interdisciplinary school better
fluid sky
Why?
cuz it's easier to reason why u wanna transfer as gt is tunnel visioning cs but everything else is weaker e.g. linguistics
compact trellis
cuz it's easier to reason why u wanna transfer as gt is tunnel visioning cs but ...
I see. That def serves as a reasonable explaination.
compact trellis
actually i think this is the most important, some ppl are hardcore cs nerds some...
Did you apply physics?
fluid sky
for ultra hard reaches i did but most publics i did cs
compact trellis
The hardcore CS will def be a minority at Duke but is more of a majority at the UIUC/GT.
fluid sky
are you more of a hardcore person?
compact trellis
I'm so confused right now. I would've been at CMU but based on my options I'm not completely sure.
I would enjoy a more interdisciplinary approach.
fluid sky
i think interdisciplinary is the way to go
esp in the modern state of the world
but of course if u wanna go hardcore ai then theres no need to be interdisciplinary if u wanna just be at the forefront of ai research
compact trellis
Yeah the paths def diverge. I guess I have a lot of introspection to do over the next 3 days.
fluid sky
also for the record i didnt rlly do much research on gt cs since i know im not going there
compact trellis
So you're leaning towards UIUC then?
fluid sky
i actually got gt fullride for aerospace before realizing that they announced no more transferring to cs 💀
yeah
compact trellis
Damn
pallid hornet
or does this differ by each llc
Differs by LLCs somewhat. Talked to a current student. LLCs help you get priority registration for classes needed for certain majors. Like business LLCs gives priority registration for business classes, innovation gives some engineering ones, etc. You also are guaranteed a dorm in a building which would otherwise be a lottery. Also, I heard there are some activities and stuff one would do when being part of the LLC
But a current student might answer it better
solemn dawn
ic thanks
spring nova
anyone have a link to uiuc '28 server?
keen ether
anyone have a link to uiuc '28 server?
yea I can dm
spring nova
yea I can dm
ty
solemn ingot
hey guys, is the uiuc offer accept deadline may 1 or is it extended to may 15?
in my loa, its may 1, but i found out that on the websites it says may 15
just wanted to clarify
tepid umbra
May 15
elfin cliff
keen ether
uhh I'll try
wary beacon
bruh does anyone know if the explore LLC in weston hall is worth it
quartz plover
bruh does anyone know if the explore LLC in weston hall is worth it
my best friend did it
he didnt do much but thopught it was interesting
wary beacon
he didnt do much but thopught it was interesting
i see
yeah the hall's real good though
so that's a plus
wary beacon
whats your definition of real good
it looked nice in comparison to the others idk bruh
quartz plover
it looked nice in comparison to the others idk bruh
its... ok
it depends on what you want in a dorm
sonic nebula
Ny friend also did an llc in Weston and he saif he didnt have to do anything dor it
the really good dorns are wassaja a nugent
stuck dust
Yo
If I choose only 1 housing in my residency list will I get a higher chance of getting it?
Or can I choose all 5
Bruh where’d y’all go 😭😭
frozen holly
If I choose only 1 housing in my residency list will I get a higher chance of ge...
nah, the way housing works is ur assigned a random time slot to pick a dorm from whats available. I don't think it matters at all what you put down there.
stuck dust
nah, the way housing works is ur assigned a random time slot to pick a dorm from...
ty papi 💗
sonic nebula
make sure to sign up as soon as possible once you get the time ticket. the dorms fill up very fast
gleaming lake
Anyone get an email saying “2024-25 University of Illinois Scholarship Letter”
When i try to log in it wit my NET iD tho it says
Access is not allowed because you are not enrolled in Duo. Please contact your organization's IT help desk.
quartz plover
DUO is our 2FA platform
keen ether
you there?
Ye
vestal pier
Ye
bro
in hypothesis testing
when we take p values
why are we including extreme values
keen ether
why are we including extreme values
What do you mean including extreme values?
You use the "extreme values" to determine how unlikely it is to receive that result
Given current parameters of what you think the distribution / parameters you are testing for are
vestal pier
Given current parameters of what you think the distribution / parameters you are...
bro like
say if the population mean is like 0.35
and we got a value of 0.21 or smth
why dont we just take the probability of that value occuring
why are we including extreme values
stable pagoda
@vestal pier giving ap stats 💀?
vestal pier
yes
stable pagoda
😭
vestal pier
help bro
stable pagoda
do ap scores matter ? I'm only giving exam without class
vestal pier
so am I
vestal pier
same vro
keen ether
why dont we just take the probability of that value occuring
Well because we need to reject hypothesis
Right
So given our hypothesis of 0.35
vestal pier
i dont understand why we're including the extreme values
keen ether
How unlikely is it that we get 0.21
vestal pier
How unlikely is it that we get 0.21
how do we check that
keen ether
P value
vestal pier
with the p value compared to the alpha right
vestal pier
i dont understand why p value says
probability of the observed and more extreme values
vestal pier
because we dont have a sample with more extreme values right
vestal pier
P value is the probability we see a value as unlikely
yes
vestal pier
yea
vestal pier
yea
keen ether
That seems fine
vestal pier
yea
vestal pier
yea not enough evidence
vestal pier
It's the probability we see the extreme values
but we dont have a random sample with an extreme value so whats the point of including those in the probability?
keen ether
So p value is the chance we get 96 heads given our hypothesis that heads prob is 0.5
keen ether
It would be the probability that we get 96 heads
If it's a fair coin
The p value will be super small
So we can reject that hypothesis
And say maybe the head prob is not 0.5
Maybes it's an unfair coin
Stuff like that
vestal pier
It would be the probability that we get 96 heads
so we're not considering situations which are more extreme here
only 96 heads
keen ether
Yea
vestal pier
then why in the p value
keen ether
Our extreme value comes outta the sample we are testing on
So 96 heads is our like test
Or sample
vestal pier
okay so wait
from the earlier example
0.35
is the population mean
and 0.21 is my observed value
now i'll find the z score right
then what do I do
the probability below that z score?
keen ether
Yea to the left assuming it's a normal distribution
vestal pier
lemme send a pic
keen ether
So you find the table entry of that z score
0.21 - 0.35 / (std/sqrt(n))
Smth like that
keen ether
Ahhh because its tailed
vestal pier
what that mean
keen ether
Because probability is like area under the curve right
vestal pier
yea
keen ether
So our p value is the area left or right
Of the extreme value
So it's the prob we see a value as unlikely or more unlikely than what we found in the sample
vestal pier
the only way i understood so far is we cant calculate the probability of that single value so we need to do it for an interval
vestal pier
and we do it from the extreme till the value we observed
keen ether
Well it's extreme to more extreme
vestal pier
but i just dont understand why are we considering those from the extreme
vestal pier
Well it's extreme to more extreme
yea
keen ether
but i just dont understand why are we considering those from the extreme
Cause we are trying to find evidence
To disprove
Hypothesis
So more extreme is the way to prove it
96 or more heads
Is a stronger statement than just 96
vestal pier
wait what
vestal pier
but like we dont have a sample with more than 96 heads right
keen ether
Gives us evidence
vestal pier
to show
keen ether
To reject hypothesis
keen ether
but like we dont have a sample with more than 96 heads right
We don't
But we use probability to guess
How extreme more than 96 is
vestal pier
oh nice
keen ether
Cause normal distribution can approximate it
vestal pier
yea
keen ether
So we can tell how much prob more extreme than 96 is
Obv in ap stats it's prob gonna be normal distribution
But there's other distributions
That can help us determine thus
Like exponential
Chi sqaure
Binomial
Etc
vestal pier
wait so what i still didnt understand is the values of more extreme than 96 right
they might have a low probability
keen ether
Yea
vestal pier
but unless we actually have a value bigger than 96 we cant disprove it even though the probability of it occuring is less than the signficance level
keen ether
No if it's less then reject
vestal pier
anything greater than 96
vestal pier
is obv gonna be in the top 5% probably right
but unless we actually get a value like that we can't reject it right
even without a sample
u can look at the normal curve and tell that
anthing above 96
keen ether
Yea
vestal pier
will have a certain probability
keen ether
You don't need the exact prob of 97 and 98 and 99
Cause the distribution helps you figure that out
We can rejevt without data of 97 98 99
vestal pier
why tho
keen ether
Cause we can approximate the chances of those with the distribution
Just take the right of 96 on the normal distribution
vestal pier
but then every distribution would have values with really low probability right
keen ether
And that's the approx for them
vestal pier
doesnt mean the mean is wrong
keen ether
doesnt mean the mean is wrong
Yea it doesn't, but we have enough evidence to say it's probably wrong
96 heads is good evidence
That it's not a fair coin
vestal pier
yea
keen ether
We have enough evidence to prove the opposite
vestal pier
to disprove 97
vestal pier
oh wait
keen ether
97 is even worse
vestal pier
yea tyea
keen ether
And we can approximate all of that with normal
vestal pier
shit now II get it
keen ether
Yea
vestal pier
yea
keen ether
Anything 0.21 or less
vestal pier
yea
keen ether
And if that prob is lower than significance
vestal pier
disproved
vestal pier
so we're considering more extreme values just cuz we already got a really extreme value
and its probable we get more extreme values as welel
so we include them in the probability
keen ether
Yea we are just examining all possible extreme values
From the extreme value we get from our sample
Yea
keen ether
Np
stable pagoda
@keen ether would I be resinded based on my ap scores for the final exam?
or are they just for credit?
keen ether
<@683507099413905464> would I be resinded based on my ap scores for the final ex...
Nah
Credit
stable pagoda
like i'm intl taking just the exam part of the ap and not the class (school doesn't have)
sonic nebula
no im fairly sure you are supposed to pick your room whenever the time ticket tells you to
distant spindle
Can I change my roommate after I've signed my housing contract
quartz plover
Can I change my roommate after I've signed my housing contract
Yes
You can also change your roommate throughout the semester technically
solemn dawn
Usually it starts later
usually when
solemn dawn
no im fairly sure you are supposed to pick your room whenever the time ticket te...
when is that
ashen tapir
yo is innovation llc worth
and what courses does it give you priority registration into
ivory magnet
The biggest reason people apply there is for the residence hall as far as I know. I'm not too sure about what priority registration it gives you
spring berry
how do i see the cost of attending before i accept the offer
tepid umbra
If you go on myillini, there should be a checklist that allows you to see fin aid
spring berry
If you go on myillini, there should be a checklist that allows you to see fin ai...
can you see the fin aid if it says "We have received your 2024-25 FAFSA."
i don't see an option for it
tepid umbra
can you see the fin aid if it says "We have received your 2024-25 FAFSA."
I have that option
tepid umbra
i don't see an option for it
Call them and inquire
spring berry
someone told me you could replace placement tests with ap scores?
yea there are a lot of alternatives to ap exams tbh
u can take the placement tests
or you can also do cc classes and skip them
solemn dawn
yea there are a lot of alternatives to ap exams tbh
no i mean i can skip the tests with the ap scores i have
spring berry
no i mean i can skip the tests with the ap scores i have
oh yea im not sure
doesn't everyone have to take placement tests
that's what i remember from the orientation i went to
spring berry
some ppl r telling me they didnt take it
so it's saying that the only test that is required by all majors is this one
ALEKS PPL Mathematics Assessment
like all freshman have to take it
and u have to take it "at least two weeks before their New Student Registration date"
the rest depend on ur major
like engineering has a lot more you have to do
wary beacon
no i mean i can skip the tests with the ap scores i have
placement tests are easy af tbh
dont even need to skip em
past widget
yo cud someone send me the official discord server link
rocky oyster
yo cud someone send me the official discord server link
same 🙏
stable pagoda
ded chet 💀
stable anchor
yo can someone send the invite for the uiuc cs
sure
stable anchor
np
open cloak
btw does anyone know why data science is ranked so high for uiuc
isn't it like new or somthing
keen ether
btw does anyone know why data science is ranked so high for uiuc
Graduate program
The actual data science undergrad program is pretty bad...
Lol
If u wanna do data science at uiuc, the best major is cs + stats
The data science majors are more like business data analyst degrees
distant spindle
Can I sign up for the housing payment plan the second I've selected my room?
open cloak
Graduate program
Yeah, I knew something was up; there's no way it's ranked that high. Everyone just shits on it on Reddit; it's kind of crazy.