#New York University (NYU) (2023-2024)
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!nyu
Half a month left 
So long 🫠
is this coming out on 3/31?
does nyu usually release before or after ivy day?
after
helloo
guys a guy got into his first choice program and campus for nyu ed2 (stern) and is not applying for financial aid since his family makes way more than enough to afford the skl. however, he did not withdraw any of his other applications and got into uw today. is this allowed?
no?
damn bro then that is actually crazy
i dont think theres anything legal attached to ED stuff/whether u withdrawal apps...
its just unethical
it's unprofessional and unethical
damn some ED admits can be selfish and just wanna see where they end up getting in for some ego boost, but def unethical
wait where did they confirm it
Where info?
March 28th
So they come with ivy day
Jux got an email
What..
i didn't get it?
4pm
Didnt even get the notification email
28th
I think theres a delay
(2)
They hav manyyy applicants
You’re cooked sadly
Probably takes time
Im cooked like beef stew
THEY STILL LOVE ME
Yea so they come 2 hours prior to ivy day
I hate this
Im opening all at the same time fs
What happened to April 1 bye
I have 10 decisions on march 28 😭😭
I liked that day better
Same
Me
damn it's coming out with uc berk
Personally not loving it
i hate it as well
who else is coming out 3/28?
All the wannabe ivys release to try and fit in lol
!ivyday
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Apparently
uh no let's not
13 days? that's faster than i thought 
berkeley too i think
😭
When is NW
NYU on Ivy day as well now 😂😂😂
I would suggest everyone stay away from me from March 27th to April 1
27th
27th
this is going to be a shit show
I GOT AN EMAIL
sorry that was intense🫣 i’m so tired i j want it to be over
ITS MARCH 28TH
Berkeley nyu and ivies on the 28th😂😂😂
My Easter weekend will be ruined with decisions that make me sad
I go back to school on April 1
OMG
Gonna be an absolute shit show
i have work until 3:30 on the 28th
5 decisions that day
i’m gonna be flooring it back home for this shit
LOL
Ah ok
Can we get a !nyu
!nyu
Eyy
i asked the mods
Bet
ready to get rejected from nyuad!
!nyu
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This is fr
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Ivy day goes crazy
At least I don't have to wait till April
nyu!!
Welp
IM LITERALLY SCREAMING NOW THAT WE KNOW WHT DAY ITS COMING EVERYTHING FEELS WAY MORE REAL
we got this guys!
if i dont get in, yall r gonna have to put me on some sort of watchlist
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L
im gonna save my nyu decision for 7pm so i can open it with the ivies
SAME
Dead on Ivy Day—
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thank you!
Am I cooked if I didn’t write the supp
Applying for tandon cs
ideally you should've bc it shows interest
especially important w/ RD
but don't worry abt it not much u can do now
in other words im cooked
i mean i wouldn't wanna destroy ur hope but like
yeah realistically
ur prolly gonna get waitlisted
its whatever
u shouldve written it its a very easy way they out candidates lmao at least you wont be hurt by writing a bad supp tho
thats what i thought
im terrible at writing so i didnt wanna do the supp and hurt myself
i applied to 31 colleges and i made sure to write all of the optional supps
the college process is mostly writing tho so id advise you to get good at it
u acn make anything look good if u write good
i mean its over now
im quite content with my results
the greatest thing i learned during this process is that no essay is truly optional
unless it quite literally does not apply to you (like change in progression stuff)
ok u will start college in a few months tho no? all ur academic life ur gonna get haunted by the fact that ur shit at writing if u dont fix the problem
yep
i dont really need writing for my major
and im done with all my english classes
you do need writing for your major lol
except like identity or diversity supps
If I put nyu ny as my second choice is there more of a chance of being WL'ed
for what
yeah
especially w the gen eds at a school like nyu
im so annoyed i wish i changed nyuad to second choice i hate them sm
u need wriitng for all majors so dont fret away from it
i alr have gen eds done
NYU NY as second choice you're not getting in RD sorry
L nyuad
ughh 100%?
but i mean if you got rejetced from AD
thats sad
yes im rejected i know
i wasnt accepted to the dumb CW or whatever it si
can't rlly say cuz i havent seen this specific situation
you’re still gonna have to write papers
but realistically WL yeah
you have to do lab reports
lab reports for what😭
i presume you’re in stem since you claim you won’t need writing
if you ever do research you need some pretty strong writing chops
no stern needs a lot
of writing
lmao
we have like 6 writing courses as part of our core
ik it does lol
but i’ve noticed that people who say they don’t need writing are prospective stem majors
you’re good lol
the liberal arts have hijacked your brain😵💫
is CAS a pretty good acceptance
isnt it like 4%?
cas is among the lower acceptance rate schools
I'm so glad NYU doesn't come out during school hours lmao
Every other school but one other came out during the school day for me
well for west coast peeps nyu will prob come out during school lol
i defo got rejected from nyuad and since nyu ny was my second choice one ill probably get rejected from there too 😭
most of mine come out at like 7pm 😭
mine always come out at like 3 am
One of mine came out at lunchtime
And I just like to rip the band-aid off
I can't wait till I get home
Same
bruhhhh
NYU isnt even like an ivy but everyone just wants to come to NY
like I actually wanna go
i switched from cas to tandon for this reason
tandon is easier than cas??
i assumed a college of arts and sciences would have a higher acceptance rate than a school for engineering
apparently so
i mean thats what nyu advertises itself as lmaoo
but thats also why i didnt apply cuz i am not paying that much to commute
ahh i see
hate to say this but every single nyu accepted student i’ve talked to has written the supp
I mean I found that there are people who’s to into nyu without the sup
Specifically into cas
But it’s whatever
those are very few and far between ¯_(ツ)_/¯
🤷♂️🤷♂️
Maybe I get lucky
not writing it is demonstrated disinterest
in the accepted students server we joke about the essay being “optional”
possibly, i wouldn’t lose all hope yet
I think I got a good app
Course rigor, ecs
RD is very competitive though
Colllege admissions are random tbh
it’s a warzone out there 👀
You just gotta get lucky that someone likes you
actually
ik someone who went to the abu dhabi candidate weekend without it
i made a poll once and the ratio of admitted students who completed the essay vs those who didn’t was 119 to 1
so take that information as you will
HELP
well idk they went this year
like last week (?) so maybe it has changed
actually maybe ur right considering the context
IT WAS OPTIONAL?
🧍♀️
college admissions tip #1: never trust a college when they say something is “optional”
well yea i did it
i didnt know it was optional
even if i did know i still wouldve done it
but like dang
good that you didn’t fall into that trap then
yea lmaooo
i saw their article about it being optional and i was like “yea this is bs 😭”
thats funny
the quote thing was kind of weird
mine was really personal but i dont think it stands out tbh
as long as you reflect the school’s values well then you should be good
but then again, admissions is very random
are there any schools that are like “less competitive” or is it just competitive all around
i’d say in order of most competitive to least competitive, it goes like this:
Stern -> CAS -> Tisch -> Tandon -> Steinhardt -> Gallatin -> Liberal Studies Core
note that nyu mainly accepts by school, not by major, however they look to see that you have some sort of experience or reason as to why you are choosing your major ofc
aww great thanks!!
np :)
if you have any other questions DM me, id be happy to help in any way i can
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guys can i still get into NYU with a C on my mid term report? I only have one and it’s in art, not related to my major at all
Only time can tell
☹️
!nyu
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!nyu
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its actually crazy that NYU is releasing on ivyday
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This list scares me
I wish Tisch was easier to get into
tisch is like requiring much focus and foundation in your indicated field
Yes and with main campus
Nyu is one of the schools that take basically any gpa in if your ecs/essays are good and if u fit in well
Im worried about if my ex's are enough to display that lol
Me when I spread baseless claims
are we getting personal now lol
No like even kids with 3.0 or 2.5 gps are acceptant regularly if they have stand out ecs
So one C will never break your admission for nyu
Compared to other top business schools they put less emphasis on grades
Ecs* 😂
Lmao this is crazy bullshit
NYU arguably cares the most
About gpa
It’s the primary filter for such a big school
i guarantee u no stern kid came in with a 2.5 gpa lmao
and 3.0 is basically impossible too
yeah those too
instant reject
a/o is a messi fan
messi>ronaldo

ur a united fan, ur not one to talk
jose mourinho> ten hag bro
Liverpool the best England team
ok thats just wrong
anything is better than man united even chelsea
nah
i'm seeing chelsea next month. I'm going to the game in London
garnacho deserves rotten tomatoes to his face
what ur fav team outside the UK
visca barça
thats nice
goin off to england to see your team is quite something
yeah. it's my 18th birthday present lol
nice!
being a manu fan is quite something....

ive had to see em lose live
L

ya'll should take this to general
man city>>>

brighton
that is true
yeah im shocked they never did
crazy how celtic has a treble but not RM
nobody talks about it
PSV also won a treble
WHY DONT MY GIFS WORK
i see u everywhere michelleobamna
I need to know realistically what are my odds of getting into NYU I can’t wait until the 28th 😭
low, non-zero
what's ur stats and ecs
ur applying to cas?
my major is biochem so it’s the school of arts and sciences
cuz it's not specifically just bio stuff it also has other stuff so ur well rounded
#📜-rules please be respectful to your fellow discord members. thanks in advance
i just wanted a second opinion even if it’s not credible. other people in this thread were asking how likely they were to get in without a supplemental so i didn’t see a problem with asking.
you have a good app dw
just wait the week
i just want to know if previously getting accepted to a program would influence my acceptance
also ab that yeah i think it would count under demonstrated interest but
i dont think it would have that much of an affect
if not less
i am well aware of that
we aren't in some court room
if you wanna be the judge jury and executioner just go on reddit
Again, I am new to this server and I wasn’t aware. Y’all acting like I attacked someone calm down 😭

And personally because I want to go there I am biased to think it would help
best of luck anyway
I’ve been waitlisted to every other school in the same range of NYU so i’m getting worried about it that’s all
as a fellow pre-med applicant
your application looks really really good
way better than anything im putting down for sure
nyu doesn’t consider state residency
it would just be cheaper for me because i’m from new york i mean
no sat? ur cooked 😭
wait are you domestic
holy shit ur domestic
nvm bro ur good
yeah
im an intl asking for aid so not taking the sat is not an option
63% of enrolled NYU students didn’t submit SAT
right not internationals though?
ur taking the whole stats im talking about internationals
if ur an international student asking for aid, taking the sat or act is REQUIRED
oh lol i thought it was a question nvm
and idk about nyus policies maybe they strictly take internationals not asking for aid lol
i’m from NY and i’ve previously been accepted to NYU program so 🤷♀️
good luck to you
I got into Stern and your ECs def look better than mine
But I also submitted standardized scores
Ditto before I got NYU
I would think not
Maybe shows that you alr had interest in med? I don't know why they'd look down on it
ED2
they were suprised i traveled 3 hours for the program when i spoke to them 😭
surprised*
Yeah that's hardcore
oh well i didn’t i did regular decision
I don't think they expected you to commute
i ran off the amtrack train we fought with an uber driver lmao i went through hell to get there
yes that’s what they said
I never did summer programs but I think they expect you to go with housing with the school if you don't live nearby
they didn’t have housing for this specific program it wasn’t an option
but i know that they look at your interest and stuff like that so i’m hoping this will make up for my no test scores
Yeah def
i’ve been subscribed to their magazine since middle school 😭
💀 they have a magazine?
when i went there they told me that they check who follows them on social media and who opens their emails
I don't think I really got many emails before I got in
I did go to an open house
And I only made an insta in the last couple months
You def have an insane amount of demonstrated interest not just in NYU but also your field
yeah the program i am in is insane i’ve watched surgeries and births and i’ve rode on ambulances
yep
Does NYU admit by major?
nah by school i think
Ok hopefully that helps me a bit, the major Im applying to is popular for tisch
what😭
yeah it’s like demonstrated interest and shit
so if they like you and want to see how interested you are (obviously to know how likely you are to accept admission) they’ll look at that stuff
That’s crazy
I don’t like to follow instagrams until I get in
Yeah when I went on a bunch of campus tours they really try to sell you early decision so I was told similar things by colleges who “really care about demonstrated interest”
Fr I don’t wanna be a fan
I don’t use social media 💔
its ok i followed darty on insta but i still got rejected
No clue bud
is it too late to email my ao?
about what
idek ....
nyu is big on early decision so i’d assume less for RD
fr rd is close to hopeless 😭
Omgg s
waittt I THINK IK U IRL don’t dox me
S? Jenny? i think ik both of u irl 😅 @little crater @static talon
If you are poor enough ED could actually be good bc many schools guarantee a full ride under a certain income w/ typical assets
too late for that 😭
lowkey wish i did this ugh
Me w/ UChicago ED2
Doesnt rly work lol
I did ED and ED2
Both rejected
Mb I'm an intl I dont count
Sorry
International is so competitive, it’s a whole different ballgame
Yep
mid
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I have to actually get in first lmao
That’s the point of ED. It raises your chances
If you're poor you're screwed either way then
no
It's not smart for ppl who can't afford coa to apply Ed to any school, especially one like NYU where their fin aid is known for being iffy
So it's either they apply Ed anyway knowing they might not be able to afford it or they apply RD and the school assumes we aren't interested
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no?? ed increases ur chances and if u dont get the fin aid u want u can always back off from the ed agreement
thats how it works
how many people u know can afford 90k a year?
But that's not what Ed is even intended for or advertised as
A lot of they get loans
unpredictable + not everyone wants to drown in student loans nowadays.. aid is only given AFTER you apply so u really cant know fs
respectfully it doesnt matter what its advertised as
Which is why ppl apply rd
If there wasn't a contract you had to sign everyone would apply ed
Especially since the Ed 2 deadline was like 2 days before the rd one
this
why would i apply rd if i like a school and i want to go given they cover my efc when i can apply ed with better chances ur argument is bs no offense
Because you're only supposed to apply ED if you can go there for sure
yeah well if u cant go there u can back off like im telling u twice now lol
i mean if you can prove you cant afford it you can be released from the agreement
Ok but that's not what it says when you're applying ed
so if you want to gamble w/ NYU on ED you can
95% of ppl cant afford 90k per year for college ur not making any sense bro
The problem is that it's a gamble
Ok but most can with loans
Like plenty of ppl can afford 30k and that plus fin aid plus loans can bring the price down
no r u dumb this isnt med school its the 21st century and no one wants to graduate with 400k in student loans
I don't think ppl should be punished for listening to the contractual agreement
I'm not saying they should take out the loans idiot
and they wont be punished if they truly cant afford it whats ur point?
My point is you shouldn't be punished for being financially conscious
???
Bro if you live your life based on if you'll get punished or not that's a you problem
Don't project that on other ppl
I didn't even ask you anything
Like at that point ED should just be EA
ok u clearly dont know shit about the college admissions process so stop spreading misinformation lmao whats ur deal
The literal only difference is the contractual obligation
no if u can afford it u gotta go thats the point
that obligation lifts if u cant pay for it what are you not getting?
Ok but why would someone who knows they cannot afford it apply Ed knowing they cannot afford it
Why would they attempt to go for that loophole when there's RD with no obligation
u clearly havent read the contract of ed n ur telling ppl they shouldnt do it if they cant pay for a school thats a whole bunch of cap
My only point is demonstrated interest shouldn't boil down to if you applied Ed or rd
because ed increases chances????????
My point is it shouldn't... Can you read??
because theyre expecting aid? if they cant get the aid theyre hoping for they just dont go its that simple
I'm literally just stating an opinion
And we're back to the Gamble
honestly ppl like u should back off from tellinb people a bunch of crap
Because there's a good chance you won't get that aid
im not gonna argue w a low life like u gn
nyus full need for anyone below 100k
You're the loser who jumped into a convo that has nothing to do with you, freak
nice valk question is do u got the real deal or r u just flexing
are you deadass
real one LMAO
lets fucking go NYU
I've seen ppl say that sometimes NYU doesn't give them the right aid and they aren't allowed to appeal first yeat
Year*
Because NYU doesn't allow you to appeal your aid either
nyu is known for being sketchy with fin aid tho thats just on paper lmao
dm me ur profile
So then you understood my point and argued anyway...?
yea ig lol
i included roblox trading as an ec 😔
All I was trying to say is I think it's a bit unfair that applying ed holds so much weight when for a lot of ppl they apply RD for financial reasons
But yeah I'm ab the NYU promise, but it just started this year so I don't know how good NYU will be ab that
Especially with FAFSA delays
trueee
acceptance letter to NYU stern
I'm just wishing for the pools to be more balanced in terms of acceptance
Real
idk what id do if i got into NYU fr fr
hard choice
ok im gonna phrase this as nicely as possible. ur missing a crucial piece of information: you can only back off from an ed agreement if you cant pay for it. so, say you applied ed to a school hoping to get aid and you dont get the aid that u thought u were gonna get and u cant afford it. waht do you do? you back off. ed isnt for only rich people, its for everyone and schools make a promise to pay full demonstrated need and thats on them if they dont. thats the thing ur not getting here, with your logic only rich ppl should ed or they should take out loans worth half a mil? thats crazy i know it seems unfair but when rich ppl have so many advantages why are you fighting poor people for taking their shot? its a gamble, and its a gamble you take.
Oh God here comes the dissertations
youre operating on 5 brain cells
I'm not even gonna read that ngl
waiting for ur profile rich boy
Like I heard what you said my point still stands
then im afraid ur a dumbass lmao
You can keep repeating yourself till you're blue in the face but it doesn't change my opinion
ok ur a dumbass for sure
Like ok then go apply e and back out of your agreement idk
i thought u were just joking around but ur serious
But I didn't do that because I don't feel right with signing a contract and backing out of it despite knowing my situation
yep a lot of people do that and its unfair but it is what it is life is unfair and this is the only shit poor people got against the rich
and thats on u and ur morals
Bro you can keep arguing with yourself ngl
Im not telling you what to do with your lofe
Idk why you care about how I go about my day but I certainly don't feel the same ab you lmao
Weirdo
yes you are, not to me specifically but ur giving false advice to a bunch of people about the contractual obligations of the ed agreement regardless of it being fair or not. dont punish other people because you didnt take advantage of it, thats your fault not theirs
nah ur crying rn
The texts are getting too long again
I'm not reading anything you send above two lines
I gotta get paid for anymore than that, sorry
its 2 lines long can you really not process vocabulary more than ur daily tiktok intake?
god help you 🤦
Why don't you go get help
Instead of arguing with randos on discord
I literally don't care if you did Ed
Like I actually don't
You're dragging it
now ur crying cuz u realized ur in teh wrong and u didnt take advantage of the ed system
lmao
?
if u just shut up i wont reply lol
Ok
its that simple
No
You can continue to argue with yourself
I just won't read texts longer than two lines
Ok
good boy
That's nice
Oh you're a freak fr LMAO
This man really just said good boy
Oh.... That's so sad
holy yappatron
what in the hell is this argument
I don't even know
I wasn't trying to argue I was just saying an opinion I have ab college applications and bro took it personally

I get that fin aid can help ppl who can't afford college if they do ED but there more than just tuition and room+board. Like your fin aid will not be disbursed by time you have to pay your enrollment fee for example. Some people can't afford that and will apply rd so they have more time to get that together. So I think it's sad that applying ed is weighed so much compared to rd because sometimes it's not a demonstration of interest, it's the finances.
But anyway, gl everyone applying rd
truth
Gl to you too 🫡
What are y'all applying for
i applied for biology cause im trying to do pre-med but now that i have UCSD idk which would be better if i did get NYU
College x vs y chat time
nah not unless i get into NYU
They're both good tbh I'd just go wherever is cheaper or maybe closer to home if that's what you want
then the discussion can be had
But also depends on your preferred med school
im from LA so SD is closer but i would not at all mind going across the country for school
both seem to be rather expensive, NYU probably more so?
in terms of costs of living
fin aid wise if the NYU promise works out for me then idk maybe NYU could possibly have cheaper COA
depends what they say
NYU could possibly give more
i cant write that off
Yeah
then again i very likely just dont get into NYU to begin w/
yeah
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so far whats your favorite choice
I got into my top choice but prob can't afford it
So NYU was the only reach school that would maybe give me 100% need met
But if not then I'll prob go to my state school because it's the cheapest but tbh I like my state school so
what state school/top choice schools if you dont mind me asking?
I'm going for a BFA so you might not know them but
Sva NYC is my top choice because their alumnus network is so good
For state school Montclair state
But I've gotten in everywhere I've applied so far I just need FAFSA to come back
i have heard of them in passing
but know very little of them
nicely done!
Thanks
There's some other schools that are high on my list like mica and I got into RISD recently so that's up there as well
Nyus film school is insane tho so hope I get in
maybe not NYU but other schools 100%
well if your income and assets fall under a full ride (which you can check with their NPC) then why not??
i mean a fair amount of highly-selective schools have tuition promises for low-income students (the ivies, stanford mit, etc) that make ED possible for low-income applicants. nyu obviously isn’t one of those lol
LMAO this argument 😭
i do agree w anyone being able to ed tho cuz u can break the contract if ur financial need isn’t met
the hard part is being able to prove that they don’t meet your financial need lol
I'm sure it's not that difficult to prove I'm dirt poor just look at my wallet lmao
oh, i see :(
Idk why I'm being prosecuted for telling someone who is spreading misinformation off
I'm not spreading anything I repeated stated that what I SAID was an OPINION
You just have no reading comprehension and like to hear yourself talk
At bo point did I say ppl Shouldn't apply Ed I said it was unfair that applying ed means you have more demonstrated interest when ppl don't apply Ed because of finances
And full aid programs don't help with things like enrollment fees often times. So my point stands.
Ed is still a plausible decision for anybody but the poorer you get the more looming that decision is
And since people clearly cannot understand implied context let me reiterate that I am speaking from personal experiences.
does the nyu promise cover housing?
why do you care
about what bro is saying
"why i oughtta"
the girls are fighting !!
how cute
The article said cost of attendance so id assume so
I should stop replying 😭
That was my last one
What an idea
Lmao
I thought u were weird st first but ur really cool ham dude
Okay but your operating under a misapprehension there. It’s not very easy to break from an ED agreement from what I can tell. I asked I believe biggreen the college counselor in the other channel and he said while it is possible to break free, the time and legality make it near impossible. Colleges do legitimately expect you to take out loans to pay up the ED payment even when your not fully covered
That’s quite literally what the definition of college loans are and it’s a big business lol the fact it’s the 21st century isn’t gonna make them obsolete
thanks
That’s also why I didn’t apply ED either
Don't even argue with him he literally doesn't wanna hear it lmao
Doesn’t make a difference to them. If you’ve applied ED then it shows demonstrated interest and they’ll take full advantage of that interest to try to get you to pay even when they know you can’t
Not arguing just informing
Since he says he only cares about spreading the correct info to the people I thought I’d share some correct info
Fair enough
I never said that it is necessarily easy to break away, only that it's possible and is the only way out of the ED agreement. My argument stands for schools covering full demonstrated need, not those who aren't as this is the NYU thread. Like I said before, some schools, like NYU, are sketchy with financial aid and will have different methods of calculating your EFC. If the aid given is not even close to the amount your family needs, then you can leave the contract as necessary. No one is going to take out 400,000 USD in loans because their ED school did not cover their DEMONSTRATED need.
College loans are more or less for the middle class rather than the lower class because the lower class can demonstrate more need than the middle class. I'm a lower class student and, hence, my argument stands for lower class students such as myself.
The counseling I work with sends dozens of lower class students to top colleges in the US and they have been able to break away from ED agreements because schools did not meet their demonstrated needs as promised.
I don't know the case for domestic students but this is the case for internationals, I also know you can prefer to study in another country even if you apply ED to a US university.
The ethics of it are questionable but it has happened many many times before.
Of course, it is the only one to leave an ED agreement. But as you said before, it’s a “gamble” people are going to have to give if they wish to apply ED, because a lot of the time it’s just simply not easy for people to withdraw from an agreement. The 400K is hyperbole. Most lower income families are only really gonna take out an 40k loan per year max I think. If a college can see you can take out a college loan to attend their university then they’ll give you a hard time if your trying to withdraw.
And frankly most people don’t want to risk their financial stability for the foreseeable future on a “gamble”, in your words
That’s not to say lower income students can’t ED. They can if they want. But it’s definitely something they should take into consideration especially with colleges like NYU as you said
If students need to rely on an institution to break from an agreement then that’s kind of the problem lol
Too much time and legality to deal with it
why are yall still arguing it's been hours 💀
International students can't take loans but can still apply ED. What do you say to that? What do you mean by giving a "hard time" to withdraw?
its a contract. colleges arent just going to concede on a student after admitting them for a seat in ED. they dedicated a whole seat to them, and they are gonna try to get them to attend.
biggreen says the same thing; he says not to apply for ED at universities your sure you wont be able to pay for because of this very issue
Not federal loans like most loans are
Unless they rescind lol
And they still do rescind
this argument is living evidence that contractually binding 17 y/olds to attend a school is a stupid concept any way you slice it🙇🏻
W that I can agree
93% of loans are federal apparently
It is contractual ur signung a piece of paper saying I will def go
but like they can't force you and afaik there are no reprocussion for backing out
and they wont' try to force you if you prove you can't afford it
there is no legal binding
They can force u and there are consequences
R u operating on 2 brain cells lmao
pretty sure they can't
they cant force you to attend
please be polite
!sani
Loans ur talking ab dont come out of the US theyre private and from local banks mostly apparently
Watch them
Well u dont have to obviously
But there will be consequences
Try attending another institution instead in the US
And watch how the school u ED'ed to gossips w other schools to get ur ass rescinded
Schools dont take it lightly that you betrayed them
That isnt breaking it when its a part of the contract
idk whats so hard
if ur Actually low income and they dont cover as much like u would expect -> go n Back out
u cannot Be forced to pay 300k+ debt by end of Ur yr
battle for Ur Financial Situation Even if it takes long Cuh
Exactly
Youve summarized my point precisely
!nyu
New York University RD decisions come out <t:1711656000:F> in your local time
9 days, 8 hours and 11 minutes until the decision date
Who typing
This is why we only ED to colleges that we know we can afford/if you make under x income it’s free
Bro woke up and spoke facts only
yeah there was this one a2cer who had like insane ecs and hypsm legacy and everything but got rejected from t30-t50 schools because he ed'd to 4 places 💀
What the fuck lol
so where did he end up
I only ever ED2’d to UChicago
Biggest regret of my life is not EDing Northwestern instead of REAing Princeton
university of glasgow
didnt get into any us schools i think
yeah bro f'ed up real bad
Yeah sounds about right
altho how will uni's know where else you have applied?
common app and scoir swear on their applicant data they don't tell colleges where all you applied
i mean the ed college can and likely will notify all colleges in their collective/pack or whatever but apart from that idk how they can tell all colleges you are applying to unless they plan to notify all 3k and some ug uni's in usa
i am in just interested in the facts of this argument, and did all rd i.e no ea/ed for context.
my school's scoir is so annoying. only starts from 2021 so barely any data
oh
but yeah i feel like colleges do know places u applied honestly
thats no better than a conspiracy theory tbh
and if they did, a system involving 100's of thousands of people it would go public somewhere
and then the lawsuits would roll in, because, pretty sure common app says it in the t&c they will not tell any college where else you applied or smth similar
it's our moral obligation to withdraw if u get in ED
yes that is correct
& colleges will generally tell others in their pack/collective
but apart from that, you are mostly safe
the only thing that is certain is that the colleges were sharing names of admitted students under ed
and they had a justice department investigation or smth over it
How many colleges did you apply to holy hell??
and i am pretty sure that practise was also stopped in 2019 or smth because it was breaking antitrust acts or smth
I actually did 76, 38 is pending as well
but that number was more incomprehensible so i removed the pending from my name
76?!?!?
i've heard of colleges sharing ed lists to make sure people aren't breaking contracts
WHY DO YOU NEED TO APPLY TO 76 COLLEGES ARE YOU SERIOUSLY WEIGHING THE PROS AND CONS OF ALL 76 COLLEGES SIMULTANEOUSLY????
they got rejected from their dream ea school with high stats (1600 and 4.0 i think) and thought their app was shit
I actually had a excel of like 800 colleges
yes. *he
mb
what school
i would not have attended anyways but it had a 98% acceptance rate and i went there for a summer program and i thought it was a easy in
wentworth institute of technology
Did you find a way to do many at once cause 76 is out of this world
i appealed and got into rd
5-6 a day in 2 weeks
don't get your essays reviewed
What are your toughest schools?
and wait for the rejections to roll in
You better have done all t30s or some shit
💀 how do you remember like every convo that happens on the server
i need your brains
i did
You have a 1600..
and most t30s are pending
my name literally means memory and rememberance lol
i pride myself on my memory
Nah no way you did it cause you got rejected
plus its hard not to remember someone who did 76 colleges 💀
You got 1600
i did not know it was a big deal
i mean i was told 1530+ and colleges don't care
Did you get waivers
- I did get rejected from rd as well
Northeastern
Pomona College
UChicago
Kenyon College
Trinity University
Bates College
Skidmore College
Colorado College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
The College of Wooster
University of Notre Dame
California Institute of Technology
Or did you pay like 5 grand
close to 2. 1.1 of it went to fucking college board
but yes i got fee waivers from most schools
damn
How did you get WL at SMU with a. 1600
true 💀
low efc + shit essays?
its not that low tho
how does that happen
UChicago rejection 🤝
intl full pay easier to get in than seeking aid
and i think a lot of t50-t100 unis have full rides? not sure though
like i know usc and bu do full tuition scholarships
so does cwru
I mean the thing is I knew I couldn't do full pay. and then asking for full rides would decrease my acceptance like crazy
bu does not for intl afaik
no you don't need to ask for a full ride, i meant apply for full ride scholarships
does it? I couldn't find that
full ride/full tuition
they give out one full tuition scholarship a year and its a separate application but hey chances aren't nil
ah rip
i get that but the thing is they are insanely competitive.
yeah i know
its better to get in as a half aid student than a full pay
Did you try St. Olaf?
in hindsight it was a mistake because uchicago is a auto reject if you are intl + aid
anyways sorry there's no point discussing it now and you did what was right for your situation
yea i got in
uchicago is auto reject if you are ea/rd (/hj)
Yeah that’s a tough situation I’m sorry to hear about it
Good work bro
lmao there is no need to be sorry
it is what it is
also the thing is
its my mistake but
i let college applications come to 1st december
without a college list finalised
so i took my 700 school list
and ranked it
and applied to every t100 uni that offered aid
- every college that emailed me with a fee waiver
so i wrote my college specific essays in december only, and applied till like 1st jan, to as many as i could
and that was that.
I realisitically started in mid nov, but i did nothing but write common app essay for 15 days
lmao thank you
rip
but yeah respect
everyone has their college season regrets
i regret doing so many safeties/targets but also i was hella paranoid
you got more acceptances than schools I did
how did you even do it bro
I mean
UChicago alone was a week and a half for me
no yea, t30 schools took a lot of time. but i just reused their content for lower schools
THIRTY EIGHT LEFT???
yea i did 76..
i mean most of them are schools i would attend if they were the only school that accepted me
neu is acting crazy this year ngl
76 schools tho I mean sure some may be repetitive or have no supplements/short ones
But do you got 48 hours in a day?
I don’t understand how you made it work
I don't even know how I made it work
but I know someone did a 140+ this year
in the same 1 month 💀
if they are not lying
which, i mean its a2c
That would literally be more than a college a day if they started on November 1 and went until January 10
no but i mean
I was at one point doing like 5 colleges a day
because i submitted most of my apps in the last 2 weeks till jan 1
dm>
Sure sure
I did like 2 a day
It was horrible
Idk how u do 5 a day without your apps being a absolutely horrible
I did hours of research for each why us
OH he’s intl
i would not they say they are not horrible
i am
did anyone here apply for tisch?
No. I’m not artsy enough
Is NYU harder for internationals?
definitely
all schools r harder for intls
what i heard from someone who specializes in this shit that
if a school has a 4% acceptance rate
its half for internationals
and 1/4th of that for intls asking for aid
not necessarily
need aware schools love full pay intls
and it also depends on country and context
against intls needing aid? sure but not against domestic students 90% of the time



