#Harvard University (2023-2024)
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ok bro π
shits not even special fr
like 20 ppl on this server got berk early
its basically average for a2c
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they finna rescind you bruh
it's 1200/124000π
i asked berkeley AO they told me
not getting more
it's the flagship of the most competitive state in America but ok
that u was a mistake
calm ur expectations so u wont be disapointed
youre ngmi
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me fr
ur cooked
thats the opposite of you
im getting 14 rejections
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yeah Iβm only expecting half of the ivies π€·ββοΈβΉοΈ
no it's a spectrum i fluctuate between high highs and lows lows
hee hee hee haw
womp womp
does half an ivy mean a waitlist
womp womp chat
half is a reach for you
im manifesting 2 acceptances 1 waitlist out of 6 t15s i applied to
if hsxd gets into a single ivy ill change my name to hsxd's bitch
dawg ik ππ
nah bro is getting into yale
yo ahh not getting into ball state university
does berkeley count as t15
hsxd has a goated essay
No
wait why have yall been saying 7 ivies π
yes
which one did u get rid of
Screenshotted, will update
grant tucker only applied 7
thats what we were yapping abt
bro no one gaf
bro got WL darty
abt ur grant tucker bitch
just apply 8 atp bro
because fuck cornell
he not gonna let u hit lil bro
wheres ur 6 ivy acceptances?
LMAO NO WAY U TALKING WHEN U SUCK RISHABS MEAT
pending
i should've done 8
prep school ahh dreads
How many did you do?
3 :( :( :(
added brown just cuz
lol
didnt even bother submitting the video for brown
what about your message
I removed brown bcs the video thing
ive seen many ppl with that type of hair
"just got rejected from 7 ivies!! (i didn't apply to brown)"
oh nvm this is grant tucker
Wharton is ur top choice right??
pass
this bro just caught a stray for no reason
a middle part there is outrageous though
He chose yale right?
Double it and give it to the next one
yes
yeah (ngmi)
mb king
now heβs a college influencer who spouts nonsense
?
his advice is good
dont hate on my 2nd goat
i dont but ight
who's the first
i love exploiting teens' fears over college admissions to win clout on tiktok π
don't they all (imma start a yt channel as soon as I get 3/3 ivies)
oh the Rutgers guy?
ima start a yt channel once i get UT Dallas
Iβm not taking his essay advice thatβs fs
man got into pton and is depressed
did you know ben awad is a UTD grad
he's not he just humble lol
Iβll start one if I get a T20 π
my cousin who's 30 and has a home in downtown bay area is a utd grad
Is she intl??
should i start one?
utd is utd tho i cant fuck with that place
exactly college doesnt matter!
yeah I was thinking this too so maybe I'll start it next week
Close! Gtown isnt
what T20 did you get
Name?
we going off us news rankings π
The girl is milking her acceptance to the last bit
ball state
Cry
I forgot her mame
aren't you the one who will choose his life/career path based on what college you get into
WWWWWWWWW
wait did u alr get decision back?
i thought u got deferred
Delulu is the solulu π
start one with your t86 acceptance π
What if the AOs saw her tiktok
t86 is foul
US news ranking is the only one we trust in
Her essays were alright
Gimme the name someone π
Idk would they still take her
except when it comes to uchicago
But I wouldnβt be flexing them
didnt have to say it like that π
clemson lookin ahh
@tall moat where'd you get in
bro lives in SOUTH CAROLINA π
mf talking shit about t20 vs t22 he should be talking about t86 vs t90
π
okay i need to stop hating i have an AP bio test tmr
Chill
Clemson (my safety can we make that clear)
im a future UTI grad
funny bc its not even bro fault π he just applied everywhere RD
did you get a full ride tho
thats his fault bruh π
not getting a full ride at your safety kinda ass
yes π
WWWWW
^w my scholarships combined
@reef forge 40 acres reject π
you're the goat
I'll manifest 6 ivies for you
REAL
40 acres is leagues above 'safety' scholarships
ivymaxxing
uta isn't a safety lol
there is actually zero reason for publics to have EA and RD btw
everyone should do it like UCs do
Publics fill most of their class ea
i got into ut business honors bitch you couldnt even get rutgers honors LMFAOOO
true but also the wait is agony
yeah there's no point to have RD
there are no restrictions EA
who you hating on now
hawk
for in state yeah
ah
I wonβt be seeing u at trailblazing week
poor kid
π€
hasnt came out
i did rd
member
uta instate is not a safetyππππ
that's like saying uc berkeley is a safety for cali kids
he knows, he is just baiting
ima be so angry if someone calls ut cs a safety
cock
π€
engineering

ok ima sleep im losing braincells talking to you degens smh
u r a cbhp admit
every flagship is a safety π
which state do you live in
whats that? sound of someone who aint even auto admit to tamu πΉ
yeah bye im leaving
the straight guy hating is insane
Nj
its not my fault king
but im not indian
π
utd and rutgers fob magnets
π
utd attracts both chinese and indian fobs its crazy
i already told yall about the durian π
Texas and cali Indian hubs
fob?
fresh off the boat
fresh off the boat
dallaspuram
π
so are they ethnic or american
ong i might need to wife someone up too
wont be finding someone at mit
SAT tmrw?
no next week
i expect 1580+ from you
ima be like icarus ngl
he got a 1520 on psat
yea i know
mmm reference
what language has bro unlocked
seppuku is err
japanese
yukio mishima
ight i gotta slepe before this german twink absolutely destroys me
i thought that said seruppu
as in indian slippers
my ap biology teacher is a german twink and is notable for making extremely hard tests that destroy peoples grades
π©΄ yk the thing that comes flying at you when you fuck up
why do tamils pronounce everything weird bruh π
its cheppu π
dw you can also do act
u right
no way u called ur teacher a think π
i went to chinese school in edison new jersey
my high school in dfw was a chinese school on saturdays π
Chinese school πͺπͺ
Yeah
hxzwxx
Simply better
This is false + misinformation, would be nice if you fix your accusation
My brother was a junior at Boston University when I began working on my codon optimization research
dont listen to him he is jealous
πππππ
Further, if you knew anything about medicine, you would know that getting an MD is not the same thing as synthetic biology research π
ππππwe about to see a showdown
no benefit to society
My brother is in med school which does not teach you machine learning or codon optimization
Hop in we about to see this
Holy shit
So saying heβs studying the same thing as my research is false
irrelevant?
My brother is interested in cardiologyβ¦ does it look like Iβm doing cardiology research to you?
yeah kvd stop making baseless accusations
My brother is in cardiology labs doing things I donβt even know
Yo kvd heβs cooking you
ππ
U gon let this slide
So coming into a2c and spreading false info is a waste of both your and my time
Clap back bruh ur washed
Holy shit bros gotta whole cheer squad
he is fake
Dawg why yall sucking his dick bro hop off π
I just wanna see a clap back bruh
Anyway thereβs plenty of qualified Harvard students here that can provide advice for this channel
Donβt know why people make it a point to refer to my personal research in a channel about Harvard admissions
If you donβt care about my feelings, at least care about the feelings of the mods who are gonna warn you for not talking about admissions in this channel
kvd been real quiet since rishab dropped this ^
L mods then, not following their own rules
Washed
if anything kvd bringing up rishab personal research shows that he is a secret glazer π€
Yo the smoke is crazy
LMAOOO AINT NO WAY RISHAB WAS IN HERE
we generally let people talk about whatever in admissions channels so long as it doesnt block out a question
This is the most entertaining thing Iβve seen all day
oh okay my bad LMAO
I just made up a rule ππ
This ur chance kvd
ok guys so
Heβs open
If I got into Harvard Iβd turn it down for ball state
@tiny notch u look like my cousin
what made u choose Harvard over Stanford btw genuine question
harvard med school!
Maybe he is your cousin πππ
must be an attractive and handsome cousin
its not april fools day yet!!
Ah makes sense
Stanford seemed more startups focused. Harvard has better research opportunities for me. Iβm super involved w neuro research here and I donβt think I couldβve done this level of it at Stanford
Nettspend
kvd been real quiet man
I donβt think I couldβve done this level of it at Stanford
nah I doubt this
for the specific thing Iβm interested in, harvard has the only lab(s) in the country with FDA approval to do it
He down and out I fear
its sort of funny to see people who hated backtrack, not referring to KVD btw
Texas ainβt sending their best
wdym
yeah
i mean behind a screen
u can do whatever tf u want
obviously stanford has great life sciences research as well, but i think Harvard neuro specifically is unparalleled due to BWH, MGH, Broad, etc
Bro is brewing potions
are u planning on attending HMS
in the future
get broader research interests 
I donβt think anyone can plan on attending a school w a 4% or whatever acceptance
Beefing on computers is crazy ngl
your always an exception
Makes sense tbh I forget not everyone on here is startup focused !
Oh my glaze
How long has KVD been typing π
ok this sounds like bm but I mean it in good faith
Fr
he got sent back home
been real quiet
Heβs down and out for the count
neuroscience is already very broad just fyi
there are hundreds of research questions and areas within it
Texas didnβt send their best
let the KVD topic go
I never backtracked in my life
harvard obsessed admissions people have the perfect opportunity to query 2 harvard students
Only forward for young cheese
until they go away in like 2 minutes
My bad
move on
lol i sometimes forget college youtubers are more often than not in a2c
Mb king Iβm sorry for instigating
id never stoop that low fyi @violet prawn
itβs because whenever iβm mentioned here, someone or another screenshots and sends in my dms
within like 6 hours
itβs in my dms
ππ
dont u have hundreds of dm requests tho
This is gonna get deleted: your messages in the last 10 mins prove otherwise
I mean sure, yes? and stanford has plenty of neuro opportunities. imo at undergrad research level there's not very much meaningful differentiation between peer schools in most cases
not just on discord π some ppl i know have sent me screenshots on imessage
is your phone number just public info ?
everything abt u is public inf obruh
Youβd be right in terms of undergrad coursesβ¦ research output is much different though
no like friends from my high school who are juniors/seniors in a2c
I donβt see intro neuro being different at harvard vs stanford
π
but research output is far far different
i dont think so ! π
I agree there are often differences in research output, my point is that undergrad research isn't that sensitive to it
shoot ur shot i see
Bro tryna get on
yoo
Chill

Why not? Not all undergrads are starting their own research projects
Iβm confusioned
Nobody broke DRSEF at our school
π
If youβre joining a research project that your lab has ongoing, then of course undergraduatesβ research will be sensitive to the lab and thereby generally, the university
rsef at tx/va/cali/ny is p hard
you got carried π
and ur complaining why ur partner got MET
Yeah but my old school Jasper had like 5 quals there lol
Wait where u get in again /gen
I need to see prospects for finalists
because, bluntly, undergrads don't have strong priors about the field and are pretty malleable in their own interests. it's more important to have good mentorship than work with highly productive faculty (of which there are still many in nearly all fields at top schools)
even at PhD level, where it matters far more, very often people value mentorship over faculty research output (though I personally disagree somewhat here)
well i mean u most openly brag abt isef finalist the most 
Why are u so insistent on putting others down like do u not have better things to do
abnon and rishab, what do y'all think about the stereotype of everyone being elitist at harvard
i swear sometimes a2c is just so toxic, ignore haters
Wdym they just went to a small school in Boston
Why u still bringing me up bruh hop off
id thrive there ngl
Ong u got this king
coming into harvard I was pretty scared of this but in reality ime there was very little elitism
Texas gotta support each other
Switch up is crazy
we'll see
Does Harvard have eating clubs
What do you eat in one
Iβm curious are they delectable
no, that's a princeton only thing lol
smrithi i finally have a yale interview π π
just start an eating club smh
OMGGGGGGGGGGG
IWBZJKAKZKWJKSJSISI
bye harvard see u never
CONGRATULATIONS
I understand where youβre coming from, but respectfully disagree
in terms of opportunity still, there are literally more labs and more opportunities in certain areas at some universities over others
If a student is highly interested in BCI research (neuro), joining a Stanford affiliated lab is likely more advanced and cutting edge
There are also literally more opportunities and positions = higher chance of undergrad students getting those at X school
If a student is interested in DBS research (neuro), Harvard labs will have more advanced and cutting edge research going on
This brings up the question: is it important for the undergrads to be doing so? In terms of learning, probably not. Iβd agree that the overall mentorship experience is more important. But letβs say a student ends up doing a PhD in that same area (which sure, this isnβt true for many students), having the experience from the lab that was literally on the cutting edge -> potentially doing a PhD with the same PI is valuable
SO HAPPY FOR YOU
closest things are final clubs but they're really not that similar lol
who spawned rishab in
YOU GOT THIS MS LUCK

arent u supposed to be gone
TOLD YOU YOU'RE GETTING INTO EVERYWHERE (except that random Boston school)
if u mention his name 3 times he'll come like bloody mary
i came back to tell u guys lmao
kvd

you're right (i hope)
rishab rishab rishab
shameless IRO plug from me
oh no we have someone here 
Iβm a freshman so donβt know as much yet but Iβd say itβs split. Youβll be able to find people who are elitist and also people who arenβt. Depends on clubs, social circles, etc
that's fair! you got Boston trustee as well right? did you get aid at harvard or did you think it was worth paying extra for
damn
i just saw his decisions video
Harvard mit stanford duke Boston trustee
Boston trustee is actually goated it's like 0.0001% or smth
I am fortunate enough to have merit scholarships cover nearly everything at Harvard so thatβs why I ended up not considering BU over Stanford and Harvard.
Quick PSA to all juniors: start looking into scholarships! Thereβs tons of local ones which can add up tens of thousands with just 5 hrs/week of work
potentially doing a PhD with the same PI is valuable
this is pretty field dependent and idk what the temperature is in bio/neuro (my high level impression is it's more okay?) but often it's really discouraged to even stay at the same institution between ug and phd, much less work with the same PI
in terms of opportunity still, there are literally more labs and more opportunities in certain areas at some universities over others
sure, I don't disagree, especially once you get down to pretty specific subfields.
is it important for the undergrads to be doing so?
right, I think this is the crux of the question. and I think even if you do a phd in the same area, it really doesn't matter. these kinds of advantages wash out pretty quickly once you start a phd and undergrad papers are nearly never useful later in your career because they're just not as high quality as the stuff you'll work on later
also I recognize this is probably something we're just gonna agree to disagree on, which is fine ofc
When did Lady Luck join back
the local ones carry !!!! cannot emphasize this more
yeah im a US citizen studying abroad so i don't think i qualify for most scholarships bcuz you need to have graduated from a US high school lol
Thanks for the perspective! As an undergrad I might find myself agreeing with you in a few yearsβ¦ but yeah agree to disagree for now π€
I thought she was off a2c
wanted to celebrate yale interview
i was 
She came back cuz Yale interview
Www
as she should !!!!!!!!!! yale interview as intl is goated
I got a Yale likely
expected!!
(I think)
I knew you could do it!
Was this chat always in slow mode
nah only after i entered
too much fan following
chat is dead godbless
ty Bertha for modding
wait @tiny notch w/ this whole IRO thing, are finals acc at harvard?
you and Ruby are my favourite mods π«Ά
aww u just missed him
awww π
if i say his name thrice?
rishab rishab rishab
ojala que si
if this acc works istg
might work! good luck
it's harvard
what is a harvard?
that is true
but like its the only shot i have at an ivy atp
just wanted to use it (sorry)
i need to update lolll
i misclicked
there we go
i have absoluetly no hope for cornell my essay was abt starbucks and this food place
so ya
i love my cornell essays (my only hope)
ok leaving again
bye
Yep!
Students wonβt be living on campus (hotel nearby) but events and activities will be hosted there
I think weβre off topic
wait omg rishab is in the server????

i know jack shit about rishab but it feels like he and we should have better things to do
OMG U LIVED
U SLAYED
AND YOU WON ANOTHER DAY
itβs a sign
lmao real
iβm ngl i heard his name for the first time on this server and i fully thought people were talking about mit rishabh das
competition math brainrot 
i heard his name for the first time on preaching p's videos LOL
preaching p is fun
i love both of their vids
harvard is def blacklisting everyone in this chat
not me iβm a lock
idk why they dont just do rolling π
AUBURN HAS FOUR EA ROUNDS
FOURRR
Just say ur rolling atp
LMAO
priority + ea + ea ii + rd + rd ii
no
idk maybe thatβs another school
ea 1 + ea 2 + ea 3 + ea 4 + rd
this discord is in shambles
the past few days has just been me watching people panic about their interviews
And now rishab is here
what did I just read π
wow congrats rishab. but i'm ngl those big-ticket scholarships are hella hard to get π do u have any tips on what to do when waiting for decisions.
It's like thor appearing on infinity war
pls π
Who pinged me
ππ
that's hilarious
He basically got an email telling him to apply
Like a promotion kinda thing
which he considers a likely
just a matter of perspective π€·ββοΈ
a letter actually π₯±
||i just got a letter telling me i "would be a good candidate based off college testing services" π , not an actual likely||
arent u the rsi person
im on a visa
so
bc i have an indian citizenship id have to apply to RSI india π
and RSI India doesnt even accept ppl who dont live in India
oh dang i see...
π fuck rsi fr
issok just clutch MIT next yr
im smoking an rsi pack π
πͺ
fr
yo does harvard interview mean anytrhing?
it means that ur getting interviewed
Has individual appkication reviews finished already? Is it onto the commitee review process now?
yes
you get one?
They mean something BIG
like no lmao
but if you get one at this point in the process it's nontrivial probs
they're still considering u then
otherwise i think it's a mix of mostly availability and maybe* a very light prescreen
yale said 4-6 wks of committee so i fee like it's probably the same here
what's your demographic/
then not much
if you were indian in india then yes you would have a greater chance than normal applicants
why would it be different depending on demographic
ah
i get it nvm
yea
they prescreen for intls iirc
yeah i forgot about that π
i thought he meant like racial demographics
do yall think i should do an app update on gates scholarship finalist?
If youβve updated them enough, I donβt think you should
Especially if you mentioned you were an sf already
yeah true
but also i put semi finalist in my awards section
which makes me feel like i should update idk
and iβve already sent so many that iβm just like fuck it atp π
should update harvard that i won the February challenge
like the one where i get thru every day of february
π
I didnβt think Iβd make it to march either
And if I stay on this sub I might not bc itβs driving me crazy
But then Iβm also so bored and school is so easy rn so Iβm just waiting for decisions
LMAO
bro donβt let it drive you crazy just be so good harvard calls you daily
why would i do that
idkπ
donβt accuse me of that i am literally a future ivy league student
may your delulu come trululu
No interview = strelulu
no they dont
π
Anyone submit a supplement portfolio?
yes for piano
Did ya get an interview?
yes, back in the end of jan
anyone from the middle east got a harvard interview yet? this is so confusing.
I think atm if they wanted to interview u they wouldβve done it
Iβve personally given up
when does subcommittee/committee start
no one so far in my area of dubai
How can you be so sure π
iβve basically talked to everyone who applied in my bubble of dubai but not all of dubai
obvi
π€£π€£πlmao
Literally me with Yale
I just want to know how havard admission officers choose the students
Ex:
-
A profile app, where it completely based on one single theme, for example, if the person likes STEM , then his profile is filled with STEN awards,ecs, etc
-
on another case a profile with different themes, for example, dance,music,volunteering,arts,smth like that.
But as I watched 100s of yt vids, harvard accepts the person's with different ecs, etc..
yes Harvard indeed accepts different people with different ECs
I have heard few ppl saying , [even admission officers ] Fill the profile with single thing you like-
Idk I am so confused rn
What's the chance?
of what
Person with same ecs and person with diff ecs.
depends on the person
I think generally a person who has a specific passion is more compelling in this state of admissions than a well rounded person, but it's not a set in stone thing
it's really just about each person in particular
Mhm....
Let's say the Persons with diff ecs are higher chance than the person with same ecs.
Cuz so far I watched yt vids
People with diff ecs got into it.
Just a guess
Meaningless
You could have different ECs and get rejected when you apply anyhow
Donβt make any conclusions based off of the YouTube videos
And the Harvard students who post on YouTube are a minority of students so the data you get is biased
Both can be rejected, both can be accepted
As I said , it's just a guess , I am not concluding it though.
Ye..
I was contacted by a Harvard alumni for an interview this week. She wanted to book the interview asap so we ended up having the interview just a couple of hours later than the first email (!).
For context, I am an international student from Sweden and had interviews for Wharton and Stanford in late January.
I had finally given up on Harvard but this interview has got me thinking - Does it mean anything that I had a "late" interview and I wonder how selective interviews are for applicants here in Sweden...
tbh i didn't apply to Harvard but I feel like in general they can sense authentic passion
Some people are passionate about one or two things and they do only that but they do a lot of that
some people like a lot of different things and that's what makes them them
not sure! No one is sure! But hope it works out
I don't think harvard is any better than other schools
?
ur cs? I thought you were journalism?
yeah
at sensing passion
ah yeah
yeah as in in journalism
im kinda trolling tho bcuz it's fun
oh lol
technically i do study cs (communication studies
)
it's just im tired of hearing "oh yeah you got in because it's an uncommon major"
I see, thanks for your opinion.
subcommittee already finished, full committee already began
what's subcommittee?
like regional aos?
yes, 3-4 aos
is it the same for internationals?
i would think so
wait genuine q
did anyone sign up for the intl research olympiad
i wanted to do it but i didnt wanna pay $60 for it π
No cuz 60 bucks for it is crazy
Idt it even an official oly
What it even entail
i think you read a short research paper and they just ask u qs about it
but the research is pretty advanced
they sent an email abt that
and then earlier today i got an email saying registration closes in 9 hrs
Interesting
it gives fake like bsfr
oh so
would it be kinda too late to update colleges on regional awards
doesnt hurt to try submitting
u never know
what would an academic rating be for someone who had a few bβs in freshman and soph year but didnβt get any jr or senior year?
4 is low wow
i mean my gpa is still like a 3.92
but i had a few b's from those years
I think more 3-2 actually
Idk tbh the metric is a bit mysterious
very
itβs more than just your gpa, it includes honors, ECs, test scores, etc
my honors are non academic π
and my ec's had leadership but nothing related to academics but instead my major
to get a 1 you have to literally be insane
like crazy academics
olympiads
4.0
etc
so like smoof said it would be 2-3
Prob 3+ if u don't have academic awards
There are examples u can look at from the cases they released
I could be wrong tho
And yeah 1s are isef winners and ppl that compete for the US in olympiads
my academics werent super crayz
Didnt u already get in?
yes
thatβs probably not even enough
Nice congrats!
any intls still waiting for interview...:(
almost no one gets a 1
literally like 20 people get a 1 a year iirc
isn't a 2- and 3+ further apart than 2+ and 3-? I may be trippin
Nahhhh
That's for EC rating
Academic is 100 - 200 i think
the - means low and the + means high in this case
ah
2+ would be a high 2, not quite there to a 1
Friend that got into Harvard was isef winner + had government research funding, that prob got him a 1
ask him to review his file
i plan on doing that as soon as im able to
Loll maybe i should
<100
It's kinda late tho my app is already submitted π
Atp it's just waiting so who cares
Pretty sure I'm getting rejected
Half my supps were mid
oh yeah it wouldnt help u at all im just curious π
i rlly wanna know what my ratings were
i think personality is prob my only 1 if i did get one
cus my other stuff is not very impressive to an AO π
personality is the hardest unfortunately
but I bet u scored highly on that π€·ββοΈ
oh damn
i assumed it would be easiest
maybe a 2 then
Oh yeah pretty sure personality is the one w like <30 or 40 ppl π
i prolly got no 1s then π
Not EC
Bro already got in π
im still curious
U don't need 1s anyway right
my brain never stops wondering about things
no
A bunch of 2s is a 30 or 40% acceptance rate
Valid
Sounds high enough for me
Plz do π
I'd like to think my personality was high cause idk what else was
my guess abt mine would be
academic: 2-
extracurricular: 2-
athletic: 4
personal: 2
idk what else i'd have, maybe lower for ecs
but i did plenty of state stuff
i go to a small school so ik my rec letters were fire π
i cant imagine how difficult it must be for big school kids
does the admissions file tell you your scores
yes
i looked at the form and u have to put ur harvard dorm on there so i assume we wait until move in day
why would u rate ur academics a 2-?
cus i had a 4.0 uw and a 33 ACT
but my math was a 27
hence the minus
idk how trustworthy this is
but according to this
that would be somewhere in the 2s
i know my "school support" one was extremely high
i've seen how my teachers talk about me when they think i'm not listening
they make it sound like i'm the pope
yeah I hang out near mines office sometimes
they have a nice table outside
like a small coffee table
Me π¦
Deferred yet still no interview
Is ISEF in academics or extracurriculars
Academics i believe
Isef winner is probably 1 rating
2/2+ maybe? π€·ββοΈ
Is that good
It's cracked fs lol
Did you submit your research to harvarf
Bro theoretically I should get into at least one ivy
harvard
Yeah
They'll have professors evaluate it if they want to
That prob will determine your academic rating
Iβm also gonna submit this year
pretty much the only way to get a 1
Iβll know if Iβm going to ISEF on March 16th
If you have good test scores + grades that by default gets you a 2 right
how many ppl qualify?
so Iβll prob update research awards + rank (6/250) then
nah that is
By good I mean like high 700s for each section of SAT and close to 4.0 w/ max rigor
the extrmeely insane ppl are so insane at academics that it just bypasses everything else
basically recruitment by that point
those ppl are multi-olympiad medalists
like ik someone who medaled in 3 international olympiads π
most dont
7 out of 350
There's the guy that got waitlisted bc one of his recs called him an asshole π
I mean in general sorry
gl
its a fun week
just know that most ppl who make it got some sort of connections
I think so ?
I think ~1500 globally
How many people are like that though
That's so crazy lmao
Literally me last year
LinkedIn connections go crazy
also the strat to make isef is p much just yap abt how much u know
u might think its hard to make
Yea
eh
idk abt that
i never used personal connectoins i think judges look down on those type stuff if they dont seem genuine
My fair always asks why I chose the project usually cuz Iβm comp bio
well its beyond just the terms
u gotta actually read tons of papers
so u can yap well
No ik
When I did research they wouldn't let us submit to isef bc our stuff was unpublished and they didn't want us to risk publicizing it π
Bruh what
I feel like Iβm the only one who hasnβt done research lol
Like we were pending submission to journal
Apparently it doesnβt matter anymore ur good also you did other great stuff
And ig you don't want to make your intellectual property public
literally emailed 250+ profs and they all declined π
I think published research > isef
System is broken
I did independent
Yeah our stuff didn't rlly fit in with the other isef projects π
Same
Think itβs better tbh
I did βindependentβ too to present at jhuβs GHLC but it was so unserious
So no one can say you only made it cuz of mentor
I think so too plus it shows curiosity/initiative
Yep
Like not that emailing a prof doesn't demonstrate initiative but idk
π
I think it takes more skill and commitment
Like I didnβt grind python in 7th grade for nothing
ππ
Lmfao real
There's also a lot more leeway as to what decisions u make in ur research
- you can procrastinate and get away with it πππ
This is a metaphor for bigger things
Never be dependent on someone else bc that takes away your freedom
nah
published research is ez
not hard to publish if u know da way
depends on your definition of better, very hard to corroborate the quality of work
unless u publish in a top journal
If you submit to colleges wouldn't a lot be able to verify tho
which is very hard to do as a high schooler without connections
Like if you're doing bs research and upload your paper to harvard and they have someone review it and be like this is crap π
Whereas if you're doing smth legitimate and the profs say ur onto something/it's publishable
some have faculty read submitted work but a lot don't take research supplements/don't have external reading processes/etc
Yeah that makes sense
Ig I'm only thinking abt colleges w established reading procedures which are rlly only like t10s
but you can essentially always submit a +1 rec from a research mentor
sucks if u dont have one
did u do ghlc this past summer
self guided research ppl
yes! I did it freshman year too
I did this for smth else and they lowk talked shit for no reason π π
I was the AI bias student speaker
ohh i was in it too thats why i was wondering
thats rly cool
it was⦠interesting
why the ...
I highkey got burned out going to all of the events π
:/
except vivek Murthy ofc
connections are just research mentors though
"just"
How do you think colleges would take recs praising research aptitude/potential but mentioning areas of improvement
no same π they had a lot
what specifically on ai did u research tho
i feel like i didnt have an npo
Ok well npos are vastly....
blud u have one kinda
Like not to hate but at least schools like mit can see through them
Ofc there are ones w legitimate cause but I feel like a solid majority are for college apps
high risk care management systems (it was v v unserious ππ)
whats wrong with this tbh