Harvard University (2023-2024)

[rancid mural]

but this year's admissions is a different one so maybe theres some delays cus of it

and also more essays now

idk im speculating

[strange wedge]

Ooh ur so right

I never even thought about the essay additions

Wait

If Yale can review that many essays then I’m sure Harvard can too lmao

[rancid mural]

yale is used to it

yale's done it for years

harvard's is new

[strange wedge]

Fair

[rancid mural]

so it could cause some confusion about how quick they gotta be

[strange wedge]

That’s a fair point

[sullen meteor]

did he get an interview?

[vague hemlock]

How many essays did Harvard have last year

[vague hemlock]

Yes

[rancid mural]

2 optional i believe

or 1

[vague hemlock]

Damn that's low

[rancid mural]

let me check

[sullen meteor]

very very few ppl got an interview from india

so that's a good sign

[rancid mural]

• a 2000 word essay on any topic (sounds absolutely ridiculous)

[strange wedge]

Lmfao Ik that’s insane

[pulsar pond]

it's 9am

are the Harvard admissions office people working already

oh fuck it's just 8am

🫠

[sullen meteor]

guys do they give interviews based on how strong ur application is?

or is it random

[grizzled dragon]

u r indian?

[sullen meteor]

ye

[grizzled dragon]

if yes, I'd say strength

[sullen meteor]

how many ppl got interviews from india

[grizzled dragon]

though availibility is a factor, I do thing there's selectivity

[grizzled dragon]

a lot from the south

but I know of none from north atleast

[sullen meteor]

i know a few from mumbai/delhi who get

*got

[grizzled dragon]

yeah delhi happens anyway

did you get one?

[sullen meteor]

nah that's why im worried

[grizzled dragon]

how strong were they?

[sullen meteor]

im not really sure but they're into STEM like isef etc

and olympiads

[grizzled dragon]

yeah strong then, just analyze the applicant strength and make a judgement for yourself

ur applying from delhi too or what?

[sullen meteor]

im from kerala

[grizzled dragon]

wait i'll dm

[rancid mural]

for intls, almost everyone accepted had an interview

for domestic the same is true but a lot more ppl get interviews

[lofty depot]

you should be my friend

[pulsar pond]

when are AOs going to work

please

give me an email

[vague hemlock]

really? why so?

[vague hemlock]

lol what

[lofty depot]

harvard, are you there? stop ignoring us!!

is there any other college that keeps the decision date till the end moment?

or just harvard poking at us

[grizzled dragon]

just harvarddd

[vague hemlock]

uchicago

[grizzled dragon]

idts its something to worry about much though, i kinda think alumni are just fewer

[vague hemlock]

so for Indian students it's based on availability and not strength of application right

[grizzled dragon]

essentially yes

a person who works for harvard admission said so

super indirect source though

[vague hemlock]

yeah seems to be the case

[lofty depot]

I think there are changes for this admission cycle fs

[lofty depot]

yeah I mean an interview can only add or subtract from your application and not getting one implies nothing.

but again some ppl say if internationals (not including europe/canada) don't receive an interview, it can indicate that the AOs aren't interested in you

[wide ingot]

hi guys anyone else freaking out rn??

because date's still not releasedd

[pulsar pond]

GIVE

ME

THE

FUCKING

DATE

[wide ingot]

I'm literally dyinggg

why are they lateee

[loud salmon]

Aren’t all the ivies on the same date

[pulsar pond]

that's for rd

[loud salmon]

Oh fuck

Damn

[jolly lichen]

they can

[rancid mural]

yeah its quite confusing to me

idk why they havent said anything

[wide ingot]

what time is it there now?

[rancid mural]

9 am

[pulsar pond]

9:15am ET

[wide ingot]

Ig they'll release it in late afternoon

[pulsar pond]

daylight saving time

[pulsar pond]

so I have to wait till I wake up the next morning????

[rancid mural]

mit is releasing at 2 pm allegedlu

so i assume around that tjme

or around 7 pm

[wide ingot]

ig mee too

[rancid mural]

it it doesnt come today im accepting that they are late

[wide ingot]

then will it be on 21st?

like thrusday??

thursday

[bronze swan]

When did they announce the date last year?

[rancid mural]

1-2 weeks

before the day

[wide ingot]

literally 3 days left atm

[lofty depot]

maybe the result is actually not coming out in 3 days

[lofty depot]

if this is the case I mean

[jolly lichen]

2000 words was the absolute limit, in practice it had no word count. people typically aimed for ~650 but there was a lot of variation. mine was like 150 iirc

[bronze swan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/18a3lsg/when_are_harvard_rea_decisions_coming_out/

It says this Thursday

[rancid mural]

thats reddit

not an actual source

[bronze swan]

Ik but she emailed and said it’s probs gonna be Thursday

[lofty depot]

it sad how my years of longing for harvard ends in like 3 days

[rancid mural]

we know the predicted date

they just havent publicly announced

which is why we r concerned lol

[lofty depot]

this was so cute btw

why do I feel like crying

i hate everything about life rn ugh

[grizzled dragon]

touch grass 🫠

[lofty depot]

if a person gets rejected/deferred, where exactly do they go for consolation?

[grizzled dragon]

therapist

[pulsar pond]

take me to church

when is Harvard going to stop playing games with my mental state

[lofty depot]

i love that song

[jolly lichen]

this thread

[lofty depot]

nah luck is just gonna laugh at me

[grizzled dragon]

bahaha that's a legit concern

[lofty depot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/18f6v22/international_rejected_by_35_universities_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I just got this notification, god can hear me ig

[rancid mural]

i was gonna say that but didnt want to sound mean, but pls go enjoy real life instead of worrying about a singular college decision @lofty depot

[bitter path]

How do u even get rejected from all? It’s a numbers game no?

[lofty depot]

I appreciate your concern but nothing helps atp

[rancid mural]

go to a park or sum

sit there and breathe fresh air

[vague hemlock]

Mrs luck

As someone's who's read your banger essay

You're going places

Maybe it isn't Harvard but you're definitely going somewhere amazing

So trust in the universe and take a chill pill

[rancid mural]

dont think anyone here has seen my essays

[vague hemlock]

I've seen your resume if it counts

[lofty depot]

thank you so much!!! Finally got a spark of hope

especially because its coming from you

[rancid mural]

yeah but its pretty mid 💀

[vague hemlock]

With your demographics it's amazing imo

[lofty depot]

❤️

[rancid mural]

i guess for being rural fgli its good

but compared to a2c

its awful 💀

[vague hemlock]

Lol i feel that way sometimes too

My cope is that there aren't as many Indian humanities kids as there are Indian stem geniuses

Among the humanities kids how many would have international awards

[rancid mural]

tru

[pulsar pond]

let's be real

[vague hemlock]

this freaks me out more wtf😭

[pulsar pond]

if you're not a Olympic champion

ISEF champion

daddy didn't donate a building

not homeless and do not have 0 pennies

[vague hemlock]

guys i just realised in this thread I've seen like kace's resume cupcake's caps and Lumina's supps lol

[pulsar pond]

YOU ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ANYTHING

😊😊😊😊

This is the a2c mentality here

[lofty depot]

[pulsar pond]

yeah girl you're the most resourceful in this thread

[vague hemlock]

🤩🤩🤩

[rancid mural]

nah A2C has a lot of faith in me i just lost it after not getting an interview for 2 weeks

[vague hemlock]

It's ok im not applying to Harvard

[rancid mural]

it made me so worried

that it broke my confidence

💀

[vague hemlock]

Yeah fair enough tbh

[rancid mural]

but then i got one mid-nov

[vague hemlock]

I was too about gtown but then i asked my Indian friends and nobody from India got one so

[rancid mural]

but confidence was still in shambles

[pulsar pond]

Luck just gave me 0 hope

[lofty depot]

im feeling so privileged

[pulsar pond]

my hopes shattered ever since I came here

[rancid mural]

my caps is my best essay

[lofty depot]

i want him to ruin my dreams too but he refuses to read my application

[rancid mural]

💀

[lofty depot]

[pulsar pond]

he read mine

[rancid mural]

luck knows a bit abt me

[pulsar pond]

well just my supps

[rancid mural]

my only caveat is act math

fuck math

[vague hemlock]

Lmao my caps is my worst essay

[pulsar pond]

my caveat is I am upper middle class

my parents got masters and doctoral degrees

not athletic enough

[vague hemlock]

What's average at your school

[rancid mural]

if my act math isnt a 30+ im dropping out of hs

[vague hemlock]

My caveat is my entire app is writing based but my writing sucks

[rancid mural]

12% of my school is math proficient

if that means anything

[pulsar pond]

God bless Alabama

[vague hemlock]

Then you're fine

Non stem major + rural + fgli

[lofty depot]

lucky you ig

[vague hemlock]

27 math is a slay for that

[pulsar pond]

it's just that I begged him really hard

like no maybe sanely say

even if you read it I already submitted my supps

[lofty depot]

i woudn't resort to begging him fs lol

3 days anyway

[pulsar pond]

your comment can't boost my chances of going to Harvard anyway

[lofty depot]

for the dreams to shatter

[pulsar pond]

Kace is stacked with hooks

[rancid mural]

this was before i had alg 2, college alg, or precal

so i hope it improved

it has to have right

[pulsar pond]

what do u learn in precalc

[lofty depot]

oh wait this is a suggestion to ask luck to read my application?

[rancid mural]

this is like a B average

[pulsar pond]

that's what I told him

[rancid mural]

the percentages

[lofty depot]

I see let's try hehe

[pulsar pond]

man I get an A if I get anything higher than a 80%

[rancid mural]

one year apart

second is what i submitted to hardvard

cus the other scores r high

and my major only needs stats

which im taking DE in spring

[pulsar pond]

I'm proud of your progress

[lofty depot]

same

[pulsar pond]

give urself a pat on the back

[noble yoke]

What’s a hooked applicant

[lofty depot]

yeah this is great progress

[rancid mural]

fgli urm athlete legacy

[noble yoke]

OOOOO

[lofty depot]

ik one international kid

[noble yoke]

OH

[vague hemlock]

Wait where do you see this

[lofty depot]

low income is a hook guys?????

[rancid mural]

click score details

to see ur specific stuff

[noble yoke]

Ya, harvard rea accepted 15% first gen and 10% low income

Last year

It’s a hook

[lofty depot]

wowie

[rancid mural]

i had to guess on about 6-7 questions on act math a few days ago and if i didnt get a 30+ math i am leaving this mortal realm

[lofty depot]

what's a low income bracket?

[rancid mural]

like less than 65k

questbridge numbers

[noble yoke]

^

[lofty depot]

got ya

[noble yoke]

Also I think they can know if ur low income if you used a fee wavier

[rancid mural]

i am qb cps and finalist

[rancid mural]

ye

[noble yoke]

Did u do the match

[rancid mural]

nah

binding part scares me

i could never be bound

[noble yoke]

wait then why do the finalist

as a award?

[rancid mural]

qbrd

and award yeah

[noble yoke]

Oh

[rancid mural]

im rd'ing to 6 schools on qb

[noble yoke]

Oh

Is it

Still a full ride

[rancid mural]

all qb partners r ones that meet 100% demonstrated need

so yes

[noble yoke]

Okay

[rancid mural]

full ride w work-study which is how it would be at any ivy too

[strange wedge]

Buuuttt then it happened!

[past stag]

when are the decisions released?

[vague hemlock]

Where

[rancid mural]

wtf

it should be in that blank space

r u intl or sum

that may be it

[noble yoke]

Wait did u finally get a interview

[rancid mural]

yeah nov 17

i think

or 12th

i cant remember ngl

[rancid mural]

found it, got the request on the 14th

so 2 weeks after submitting yeah

[noble yoke]

Wait was it by email

[rancid mural]

yes

[noble yoke]

Ya, I got no interview

RIP

It’s fine I AM PRAYING ITS CUZ I SUBMITED additonal info to clarify EC’s and additonal awards + additonal rec letter

[rancid mural]

if ur domestic im sure its fine

most who get in have interview but its not impossible

[lofty depot]

ur good! I should be the worried one

[rancid mural]

r u rural @noble yoke

if ur rural dw

if u live in like nyc u may be deferred then interviewed in rd

[noble yoke]

it’s like south of Virginia

But not that rural

[rancid mural]

r there many alumni who live/used to live there

[noble yoke]

I don’t think so

but my region they expanded it. I come from a. Small city ish place, but they expanded the interviews to multiple cities and counties

[rancid mural]

im rural and my interview was virtual w a guy who graduated 10 years ago and lived an hour away from me 💀

[noble yoke]

OOO

what questions

Did the guy

Ask u

[rancid mural]

mostly abt my town and the opportunities here

[lofty depot]

i've got prolly zero harvard admits from my region ever, can that be the reason for no interview?

[noble yoke]

Did u submit extra info?

[rancid mural]

they would virtual you then most likely

[noble yoke]

Or a extra rec letter

[lofty depot]

yeah I did submit a research paper and stuff

[rancid mural]

i assume mine took 2 weeks cus they were tryna find that dude 💀

[noble yoke]

okay then that might be why

[lofty depot]

now seems like never but yeah

[rancid mural]

it couldnt have been easy to find someone who was even remotely close to me

and he wasnt he lived in nyc

[lofty depot]

can only hope

[noble yoke]

Basically harvard said they have 4 options

1.) alumi abiabkity
2.) need more info on you so you get a interview
3.) borderline
4.) got enough info to make a decision

[rancid mural]

mine was prob 2 ngl

[noble yoke]

Some people from my region have gotten into Harvard rea without a interview

[rancid mural]

needed more info abt my rural situation

[noble yoke]

So I think it’s possible

[rancid mural]

cus that seemed to be what he focused on

[lofty depot]

is there no 5?
I mean:
5) auto-reject

[rancid mural]

was what kind of opportunities i had

[rancid mural]

thats #4

[noble yoke]

Well that’s 4.) it’s like auto reject or

auto-admit

[lofty depot]

lol ok

[rancid mural]

he asked how many kids in my school go to college and what the dominant industry was

[noble yoke]

OOO

[rancid mural]

i guessed about 50/50 for college vs trade and the dominant industry is trade work

cus i go to trade school across the street lol

[noble yoke]

Ya, my town has the data

For that

[rancid mural]

so i see s lot of kids where college aint even an option

[noble yoke]

My counselor also submited our school profile

[rancid mural]

cus of finances

[vague hemlock]

yeah it's been like that for 3 months lol
im intl yes but what does that have to do with anything

[rancid mural]

my mom wanted to a nurse but couldnt cus finances which is why she wants me to get into harvard so bad 😭

[noble yoke]

I hope u get in!

[rancid mural]

it should be right there

my score details

i assume it has to do w intl stuff

[vague hemlock]

rip

[storm condor]

guys

a guy who sent an image that 80% of REA are legacy and athletes

is that correct

[pulsar pond]

79,5%

yes

[storm condor]

so 500/700 on average

are legacies or athletes

[rancid mural]

thats not true

[noble yoke]

Idk if that’s true but 15% are first gen and then 10% are low income

But many categories overlap

[storm condor]

are we including internationals?

[noble yoke]

So we never know

[rancid mural]

stop spreading misinformation or im deleting that post

resd the full thing pls

it says hooked

[noble yoke]

Where is the post

[rancid mural]

which they define

[storm condor]

wheres the post

[rancid mural]

this

it includes low income as well

[storm condor]

with internationals (?)

[bronze swan]

I honestly thought it would be higher

[sand iris]

What is a "child of facility"

[pulsar pond]

faculty you mean

[stable pecan]

Child of a professor for example

[rancid mural]

mispelled faculty lmao

[bronze swan]

Your mom works at Harvard

[pulsar pond]

that means the children of professors or any ppl working at Harvard

[rancid mural]

it is true that harvard accepts mostly hooked ppl rea

thats just a fact

[noble yoke]

ya

[grizzled dragon]

june got that

[rancid mural]

but its not like unhooked have 0% chance

or that they cant turn the tide

[noble yoke]

2 people from my school got into harvard rea and they were not hooked

[storm condor]

do low income internationals count >

[noble yoke]

One in 2018, one in 2020

[lofty depot]

wow u got great shot it seems

[pulsar pond]

june girl how much were you hiding from us

[noble yoke]

well no they were cracked

[rancid mural]

about 12% of accepted students are International at harvard

if that answers anything

[bitter path]

Is june a child of faculty as well??

[pulsar pond]

2k sth*0.12

[noble yoke]

harvard accepts 1.6k

I thought

[rancid mural]

1.6k is the class size

[pulsar pond]

I dunno

[rancid mural]

they accept 2k for yield purposes

[pulsar pond]

close to that number I would guess

[rancid mural]

to make sure they have a full class

when ppl decline

[noble yoke]

OH

Okay I get it

[grizzled dragon]

yeah she said it herself here

[stoic tangle]

No diversity, they should bump it up to 95%

[rancid mural]

one year almost everyone accepted the offer snd they had to start housing freshman off campus 💀

[storm condor]

theoretically this applies to early as well

12% of early + 12/100 of rd = 12% of all

kinda

[rancid mural]

luck got in rea as an intl, ask him

[storm condor]

he was legacy

no point

[rancid mural]

he had sibling legacy

[storm condor]

his dad too

[rancid mural]

which doesnt matter a lot

[storm condor]

right?

[lofty depot]

what countries mainly compromise this?

[late zenith]

rea is for hooked only

[rancid mural]

he was trolling u

[late zenith]

its a waste

[rancid mural]

luck is fgli lmao

[late zenith]

unless ur substantially cracked

like shit with the UN

else its pointless

[pulsar pond]

no he's not intl?

[late zenith]

hes domestic

[jolly lichen]

bruh y'all really getting trolled by this man

[viscid pike]

Is it true Harvard looks for ppl who get on the news

[rancid mural]

is he not intl 💀

[lofty depot]

wow he said his dad went there or smthing a while ago

[rancid mural]

i thought he was from canada

[rancid mural]

cus he was trolling

[jolly lichen]

not really ime?

[rancid mural]

or mexico

[storm condor]

bro 💀 im sick i cant deal with this shit

[viscid pike]

Rip oh wel

[rancid mural]

abnon is luck domestic or sum

[lofty depot]

please say that's a lie

how many trolls we got here?

[storm condor]

are any internationals from harvard in this thread? 💀

accepted

[late zenith]

were u IOI fr?

[storm condor]

yeah

[late zenith]

sheesh

1 on harvard rating

for academcis

[storm condor]

lets hope it helps 😭

[late zenith]

u have a better chance then most here already

[bitter path]

He said he was from nyc

[late zenith]

ofc it does

ur top 4 representing ur country

[storm condor]

ik i was just scared when i saw 80% were legacy or recruited aathletes

[late zenith]

nah lmao

[pulsar pond]

guys we are about 3 times more active than last year's Harvard thread

[late zenith]

no way

[noble yoke]

I think if you average a 2 you can get into Harvard

[lofty depot]

even 3+ can

[pulsar pond]

problem is I think everything I do is a 4

[bitter path]

I have seen ppl with 3+ get in as well

[storm condor]

are ratings all? like doesnt personal feeling of AO matter as well

[lofty depot]

and the end there's more stuff than ratings too

[late zenith]

u neeed a bunch of 2's ideally

[late zenith]

ye but u cant control thta

that

[pulsar pond]

the viet guy who made his admissions file public

[rancid mural]

this man is so confusing

[jolly lichen]

I think it's certainly correlated (ie people who do cool stuff end up on the news) but I don't think it's causal (ie the cool stuff gets them in, not the news itself)

[late zenith]

the hardest is getting an 1 on personality/personal statement

88

yearly

[rancid mural]

what

[viscid pike]

Ty g 🙏

[lofty depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcVqVeuso5g

[storm condor]

is like 1 2- 2+ 2- 2 good? with 1 on academics

[jolly lichen]

3+ overall is tough

[storm condor]

under 50 i think

peoplee

[lofty depot]

watch this will clear all doubts

[late zenith]

ye 1 in any field is 40% AR alone

higher for athlete

close to 88ish

[storm condor]

i have chances then 🙏 🙏

[viscid pike]

Is consistently doing a sport on a high lvl team and getting some state awards enough for 3 on athletics

[jolly lichen]

that's almost certainly an admit. but you are likely underestimating how hard it is to get an academic 1

[bitter path]

Abnon did u ever view ur admission file?

[noble yoke]

It’s unlikely to get a 1 on academics unless you had national and international awards

[lofty depot]

it talks about 2 harvard admits and their ratings

[jolly lichen]

bro thinks he's an academic 1 lol

[rancid mural]

if i got 1 on anything i think it would be personality

[jolly lichen]

yes

[pulsar pond]

what is an academic one

I mean I would consider myself a low 2 for academics

[storm condor]

i didnt say im 1 but i believe IOI + IMO camper + medals in european olympiads qualifies for 1 lmao

[lofty depot]

even a 3+ 2 4 2 can make it!!

[pulsar pond]

I got a full predicted score for IB

[rancid mural]

p sure personality rating is based on hooks and essays and if thats true i am a 1 💀

i doubt i'd have 1 on anything else

except that

[viscid pike]

Did u do like Oxford or Cambridge

[bitter path]

Apparently that just gives us a 2 or something

[vague hemlock]

does 35 act + 4.0 gpa + self studied APs constitute an academic 1

[lofty depot]

it's the hardest to get a 1 on personality

[storm condor]

nah, no money to offer

abnon underestimator 😭

[viscid pike]

Rip

[lofty depot]

an international olympiad, published research and all is needed

[pulsar pond]

idk if that is a 2 do not believe me

[late zenith]

no hooks is diff

two diff things

[rancid mural]

what

[vague hemlock]

I have Olympiad international top 50 if that counts lol

[pulsar pond]

well I did economics olympiad open track

[late zenith]

published research in prestigious journal like nature, springer, pubmed, etc not some random low impact

i did an econ oly too but its nothing crazy

its world economics cup

usually

[lofty depot]

i am telling you watch this : https://youtu.be/VcVqVeuso5g?si=2Yo7eKrUPOTi3Gv7

[pulsar pond]

it's not the legit one I'd like to call it the low prestige version

my team was top 10 in business case

[late zenith]

i did one similiar to that too

[lofty depot]

yeah that counted too

[noble yoke]

No you need national awards or international

[pulsar pond]

my teammates went to Wharton and Cambridge

[late zenith]

do the harvard global case business comp thats rlly fucking hard and if u do good itll help for RD

[pulsar pond]

too late man

[late zenith]

2 teams qualify per region

in NA

[jolly lichen]

you might be surprised

[late zenith]

IMO!?

[jolly lichen]

that's like maybe a 2-

[storm condor]

bruh ok idk

[storm condor]

yeah

[late zenith]

did u place at IMO

like get a medal

[viscid pike]

Is academic purely school stuff or also academically related awards

[pulsar pond]

is public speaking academic

[lofty depot]

here

[pulsar pond]

I got a first prize award for a regional public speaking competition

in 9th grade

I was what top 3 out of 300+ participants

[vague hemlock]

Damn

[vague hemlock]

Wow

[jolly lichen]

literally IMO is not enough. there are O(200) academic 1s at Harvard per year but 600 IMO competitors

[storm condor]

no IMO camp so like selection for IMO, but i ddidnt get in top 6, i focused on IOI

[late zenith]

double oly is still insanee

[pulsar pond]

I was competing with richass cracked mainland Chinese kids

[pulsar pond]

till this day I still regret fucking up my biology olympiad

[storm condor]

im taking more parameters in my head, that u dont know, so i agree with u it is just i have more knoweledge of what ive done, and it is not just olympiads,, but yeah ur right

[jolly lichen]

also like... it's disproportionately difficult in some countries, like MOP is likely more difficult than IMO team in other countries, so that's also a factor

[lofty depot]

compare this guys

[pulsar pond]

is MUN academic

[jolly lichen]

and obviously more than oly kids get academic 1s

[storm condor]

yeah yeah obviously

[jolly lichen]

etc

[storm condor]

were u international?

[pulsar pond]

me?

[storm condor]

abnon

[jolly lichen]

sure, fair. my reaction is based on the fact that ime people vastly overestimate how competitive they are

[jolly lichen]

I have dual citizenship so I think I was read like a domestic

[pulsar pond]

literally same bro

but i heard they give ur file to an international AO

assuming if u were schooled outside of the US

cuz that's my case

[jolly lichen]

yes I think that's true for context

[noble yoke]

For EC’s for national like regonition.

Can it be like cuz of ur EC’s u were selected for a national award

[pulsar pond]

lol I get very confused about what is national

[noble yoke]

In ur country pretty much

[storm condor]

yeah yeah i agree, totally my fault dw. are awards counted with ec's together right?

[pulsar pond]

to give you a context

I'm from Hong Kong

in governmental definitions Hong Kong is a part of China

[noble yoke]

Oh ya

I get what you mean

[pulsar pond]

that is why unless it's a competition open to everybody in China I didn't list it as national

the most i could say was regional

[noble yoke]

I am Chinese American

[pulsar pond]

very sensitive political issues

I really don't like it

but sometimes I just don't know how to react when im filling up some stuff and they ask me to pick my nationality

[brisk umbra]

just say you got in

[pulsar pond]

what am I supposed to do dude

[brisk umbra]

and if you didn’t just say jk

[jolly lichen]

yes

I mean in the sense that everything is holistic

[pulsar pond]

can u differentiate between olympiads

can there be a shittier intl olympiad and then a better intl olympiad

[lofty depot]

yeas

[storm condor]

theoretically IMO > IOI > IPhO > IOAA > IChO > IBO > IOL

tho the first 3 are the most important

[pulsar pond]

ok lol economics olympiad is not even on this fucking list

I can go unalive myself

[jolly lichen]

this ranking is wack

ioaa lol

[brisk umbra]

they’re all international olympiads what’s the difference

[storm condor]

not the same difficulty

[pulsar pond]

i mean they're different subjects

[brisk umbra]

but they’re literally all international olympiads

[pulsar pond]

I think it's very unfair to compare them like this

[brisk umbra]

think about it

[pulsar pond]

but sadly thats probably life

[storm condor]

no there is a standard measure of difficulty kind

kinda

[brisk umbra]

you’re comparing INTERNATIONAL olympiads

[storm condor]

u cant compare IMO problems with ICHo ones.. the problem solving one needs is huge

[brisk umbra]

that’s like comparing MIT to Harvard and saying there’s a notable difference in ranking

MIT is like arguably the best tech focused school and harvard the best humanities/natural sciences focused

[storm condor]

yes i get ur point but IMO requires far more problem solving than e.g IOAA even if they are totally different subject...like a hard p6 in IMO is nothing compared to IOAA hardest problems

not my words

most people agree

[brisk umbra]

i mean the vast vast vast majority of applicants never touch these olympiads

nor really even know about them

[bitter path]

But wouldn’t it make more sense if u were comparing between regional, national and international

[strange wedge]

Can’t u just submit ur addition rec letter through common app..

[lofty depot]

guys does being the student body president help a person's chances?

even to the bare minimum

[brisk umbra]

i went ivy and i had no clue what anything other than IMO and IOAA were until after i got in

[pulsar pond]

i fucking forgot to say I was the head girl of my school

[brisk umbra]

update letter

[lofty depot]

bahaha

[pulsar pond]

let's hope my teachers mentioned that in their ref letters

[pulsar pond]

too late

[brisk umbra]

most people get deferred

i doubt it’s too late

submit it after you get deferred

[lofty depot]

mine did! Hopefully they did the same for u

[pulsar pond]

i have 0 idea what they wrote

[storm condor]

there are around 300 participants per olympiad, we can assume that the 12th grade students are like 2/3 so 200 and around 70 of them I would say apply to Harvard.

[pulsar pond]

I wrote 2 rec letters myself

[storm condor]

yeah but her question was when comparing IMO with IOI

[lofty depot]

what does a good rec letter look like btw??

[pulsar pond]

but none of them felt like i had the space to write about my head girl experiences

[brisk umbra]

70 out of like 60000 what’s the point

[rancid mural]

they will immediately post on facebook if i say that

[brisk umbra]

true

[rancid mural]

they posted abt my interview

[strange wedge]

Lmfao

[bitter path]

Harvard has some examples

[pulsar pond]

i plan on keeping it low

[lofty depot]

i like a below 5 percent qualifiable olympiad good?

[pulsar pond]

no matter the decision

[storm condor]

70*6 for all olympiads lets say and i believe theres a huge margin for errror there so like 400 out of 60k approximately

[lofty depot]

does it? On the website?

[brisk umbra]

not all 400 are going to harvard

if not even most

[bitter path]

I saw on my club’s website

Lemme check wait

[brisk umbra]

it’s not significant enough to affect you

[storm condor]

20 out of the 400 i believe would end up at harvard

25

idk

[brisk umbra]

so what’s 20 out of like 2000 accepted

[acoustic granite]

it's also based on other factors since harvard cant accept all olympiad

[brisk umbra]

why are you comparing yourself to 1%

[storm condor]

1% 😭

[brisk umbra]

like

don’t worry about that

[storm condor]

i really dont remenebr what was the initial question for this conversation

lmao

im just doing math for ppl who applied

[brisk umbra]

worry about the 45% taken up by ALDC

[storm condor]

athletes legacies etc?

[brisk umbra]

yes

[pulsar pond]

yuh

[bitter path]

https://harvard-ukadmissions.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Helpful-Teacher-Reports-from-the-UK-Handout.pdf

[storm condor]

what can i do about them 😭

[lofty depot]

thanks!!

[bitter path]

This kinda seems specific to the UK, maybe check ur club

[brisk umbra]

what can you do about the 1% of international olympiad winners

even if you don’t get into harvard it isn’t the end of the world

i REAd harvard and ended up at columbia

[storm condor]

im useless in both cases, i will just go to sleep and wait for my sad defera

[storm condor]

oh wait rly

[brisk umbra]

don’t be too hard on yourself

[storm condor]

did u get deferred?

[pulsar pond]

On the hills of Manchuria is so good

[brisk umbra]

yes

i did get deferred

[storm condor]

internatinoal?

[brisk umbra]

no

[storm condor]

oh ic ic

[brisk umbra]

well dual citizen

but counted domestic

[storm condor]

do u choose what counts

lmao

[brisk umbra]

no i think it’s by high school location

i go to school in the US and live here

[storm condor]

it is better to be counted as domestic always i think right

[brisk umbra]

yes

[storm condor]

4 days 😭

[brisk umbra]

but yeah like everyone in my life was delulu as hell over harvard w me lol

[storm condor]

but fr i dont think stem olympiad kiddos apply early at harvard lmao

[lofty depot]

3 bro

[brisk umbra]

most people thought i was getting in rea and then it hit me like a truck

[storm condor]

😮

[brisk umbra]

start ur other essays if u haven’t

[storm condor]

ive submitted 18/23

[brisk umbra]

good

[rancid mural]

wait why

why submit rn

[jolly lichen]

they for sure do, Harvard is probably second only to MIT? but the gap between mit and Harvard is large tbf

[storm condor]

the earlier the better

others told me its a waste of money

[storm condor]

usually they have beef with harvard

and only cheer for mit

[brisk umbra]

idk lowk just don’t count on getting into a school with a 4% acceptance rate

that’s all i’ll say

if it happens it happens

don’t beat yourself up over it

[storm condor]

yeah yeah true

[rancid mural]

but why submit if u dont know yet

just wait

til after

u got 2 weeks between decisions and deadlines

[storm condor]

why not, i mean i think in some unies it might be btter early, u also get interview

idk

since i did them already i was like submit to have them off my mindd

[rancid mural]

would u withdraw if u got into harvard

[storm condor]

no

[rancid mural]

aid leveraging?

[storm condor]

no i just wanna apply to others to see where i would get in and also for sure I wanna see what happens with MIT but it is not for aid, cause i believe harvard will give full aid if they accept

[rancid mural]

if i get into harvard i'd only submit yale and jhu i think, or i'd just commit right then

[storm condor]

i mean they should

theoretically

[storm condor]

😮

[rancid mural]

i'd 100% go to harvard

im just curious abt jhu cus my friend goes there

[storm condor]

lol nice

[rancid mural]

and yale cus i wanna see if i'd be a cross admit

[pulsar pond]

i'm committing to harvard 100% if they want me

no questions asked

[storm condor]

why

is it rare ?

[rancid mural]

i'd tour before committing

[rancid mural]

yeah

usually yale and harvard dont both admit someone

[storm condor]

ohh

why is that

[rancid mural]

just smth they do

[pulsar pond]

still no emaillllll

[rancid mural]

vibes r dif

[pulsar pond]

ughhhh

[storm condor]

ive got like fever, i hope it will go away on decision day otherwise itll be miserable af

[lofty depot]

guys I got a question. If Harvard hasn't sent me a single email after the application confirmation and financial aid stuff, does it mean they forgot me or just rejected me?

[lofty depot]

get well soon !!!

[pulsar pond]

omg that's legit my condition

[storm condor]

u mean interview?

what else where u expecting

[bitter path]

Same and I literally have an AO interview in like 50 mins

[pulsar pond]

yep get some good rest

[storm condor]

were*

[lofty depot]

anything literally

[storm condor]

thankss 🙏

[pulsar pond]

omg good luck

[storm condor]

ummm like??

lmao

[brisk umbra]

neither

[storm condor]

i only got for application + interview + research submitted, nothing else, i mean why send anything else

[brisk umbra]

it’s fine

i didn’t get any communication

for both the schools i got into and those i got rej from

[bitter path]

Caly were u on the REA channel last yr??

[pulsar pond]

yes

[storm condor]

but like what could they possibly send 😭

[pulsar pond]

I checked

[brisk umbra]

i was lol

[lofty depot]

good luck bestie!!!

[brisk umbra]

i was the stressed senior spamming abt decisions in here

i’m using my college status now for good

[rancid mural]

make it go well @bitter path

50% admit rate is insane

[lofty depot]

what what did you get for research submitted??

[storm condor]

i think

[bitter path]

Do u remember the girl who got transferred to the RD pool cuz she didn’t submit some documents

[storm condor]

maybe im tripping

let me check

like a confirmation

[lofty depot]

that's better

[brisk umbra]

No

[bitter path]

Damn

[storm condor]

yeah i saw herrrr omg

[brisk umbra]

i’m sorry i wasn’t paying much attention just literally dooming in here

[lofty depot]

do they send confirmation for additional stuff?

[storm condor]

why did that happend lmao

[bitter path]

I was wondering like did no one notify her that they didn’t receive her info on time

[storm condor]

happen

[brisk umbra]

easier to defer her

and reevaluate other applicants

[storm condor]

mine says all submitted so i hope its fine

[bitter path]

Yhh same but I thought she might’ve noticed as well if something didn’t show ‘received’

[pulsar pond]

Luck and his good old days

[lofty depot]

😂

[bitter path]

Yet she was eagerly waiting on her decision

[storm condor]

my bad they didnt

im trippin

[lofty depot]

[storm condor]

ugh

im done

ive made up my mind

[lofty depot]

about what?

[storm condor]

idk

[lofty depot]

lol

[storm condor]

im just done

but alsoo my delulu side is starting to merge with the defer side

[lofty depot]

and here I am already aware of my decision and still worried af

[brisk umbra]

i stressed myself sick over it

it’s really not worth stressing over

[lofty depot]

woah u describing the current me

[bitter path]

But doesn’t on the portal show ‘received submitted additional…’

[lofty depot]

yeah it does

that's fair

[storm condor]

y

es

the worst thing is u cant remove anything

imagine submitting something elsee

[lofty depot]

the fact you can't open it is worst!!

[pulsar pond]

.

[lofty depot]

parallel universe exists ig

[bitter path]

How do u stalk now? I dont understand how this updated version of discord works

[storm condor]

luck went from to 😈

[pulsar pond]

i go to the college megathreads page

[lofty depot]

where'd he get his pfp though? That gleaming smile doesn't suit him

[pulsar pond]

and scroll until I find Harvard REA 2022-2023

[bitter path]

Ugh I used to search by his name 💀

[pulsar pond]

highest chance ever

praying🙏

[rancid mural]

my highest chance was 98% and lowest was 2%

they complete each other

[pulsar pond]

polarizing

[rancid mural]

carl predicting decision dates 💀

[bitter path]

I think it does, yk. It’s like an ironic smile before a murderer goes in for their kill

[lofty depot]

how many harvard rea admits do u guys think we'll get off this server?

[rancid mural]

2-3

[late zenith]

@jolly lichen abnon did u check ur admissions files

[lofty depot]

[rancid mural]

like last uear

max 5

[late zenith]

1-2

[rancid mural]

more than 1

we've had quite a few ao interviews

[lofty depot]

bruh that's so harsh but also reality

[late zenith]

who got ao interview

tf

[lofty depot]

i felt there were many

[rancid mural]

444 and june both did

and then like 3 others

[bitter path]

Was there less ppl compared to this yr??

[rancid mural]

w a 50% AR gotta be atleast 2 acceptances not including those who didnt get ao interviews

[late zenith]

whos june

didnt they get banned

[rancid mural]

she leaves and rejoins a lot

no

[late zenith]

444fyeee is a cracked intl

[bitter path]

Tf 💀

[rancid mural]

june has an 80% acceptance rate lmao

[grizzled dragon]

a troll

[pulsar pond]

how much do we know about each prominent person in this thread

[late zenith]

ao only goes up to 50% tops tho?

[pulsar pond]

we should make a summary of what we know about every person

[rancid mural]

she is legacy

[bitter path]

Apparently child of faculty as well

[grizzled dragon]

and child of faculty too

[late zenith]

whaat

[grizzled dragon]

deans list too

[bitter path]

That girl is deffo getting in

[grizzled dragon]

apparently

[late zenith]

thats an in

[grizzled dragon]

it is

[late zenith]

id say max 5-6 rea

[pulsar pond]

how cracked are we compared to last year

[rancid mural]

she is not all of those things yall

she never claimed to be lmao

[bitter path]

Did she mention it was her or was another guy from her school?

[late zenith]

last year was insane

[rancid mural]

yall misinterpreted what she said

[grizzled dragon]

she did

[rancid mural]

no she did not

[grizzled dragon]

tell me

[rich mirage]

When

[rancid mural]

show me the screenshot lmao

[grizzled dragon]

wait i'll send it to u

[bitter path]

She said someone from her school who has 2 mums, who are professors at harvard

[rancid mural]

she said ALDC have 80% acceptance rate if theyre ao interviewrd, ALDC is a legacy, athlete, deans list, OR faculty

she never said she was all 4

[grizzled dragon]

she is 3

[storm condor]

just lie that ur dad worked at Harvard

[grizzled dragon]

where did u disappear now lol

[late zenith]

whoever genuinely gets into harv from here that was non-hooked their essays were def fucking good

[pulsar pond]

does anybody wanna read mine

[rancid mural]

i was ordering food there was no need to message/ping me 8 times

[grizzled dragon]

the best essay I read so far was of this girl from yale she defo getting in

[storm condor]

yes

i have nothing better to do

lmao

[grizzled dragon]

when was it 8 times 😦

[rancid mural]

7 dms and 1 ping

[grizzled dragon]

i type with breaks

not like that's my fault

[rancid mural]

💀

[storm condor]

me

[bitter path]

Where are u from in Europe??

[storm condor]

greece 😮

[pulsar pond]

bro accept my request

[late zenith]

do u mind if i read it after u get in harvard rea if u do

since u spent 2 months on it

[pulsar pond]

cool

[jolly lichen]

yes

[rancid mural]

i would immediately check my admissions files 💀

[bitter path]

Sick!! Catch me in Mykonos this summer

[rancid mural]

asap

[lofty depot]

can u not read my essays

[late zenith]

did u get all 2s

[bitter path]

Now that I remember this i wanna read too

[rancid mural]

my caps took like 2 months of drafting snd revising

[late zenith]

i have yet to start harv starting in 2 days

how much topics did u go thru

it took me abt a month

[rancid mural]

went from black + trans to just trans to focusing on dif areas of how it affected my life

so it was a lot of the same thing but tryna find a way to present it

[lofty depot]

Honestly, I spent like 3 months on my supp but they're so bad I just never admitted it lol

[jolly lichen]

individual 2+/2/4/3+ after second read, overall 2-
school support 2-
recs 2/1-/2

[pulsar pond]

girl stop

I wish my supps were like urs

[late zenith]

yeah ik wym it took me a while to execute what i wanted but it worked out

[rancid mural]

was the 4 athletics?

[late zenith]

pretty decent

[jolly lichen]

yes with a reader comment that my athletics should possibly be a 3

[lofty depot]

oh please, i wish mine were like urs

[late zenith]

what was the 3+ for

[storm condor]

is there any weight between CA essay and harvard supplemental?

[late zenith]

both are the same

[storm condor]

like if common one is very very good and harvards are mid

[jolly lichen]

the breakdown is academic/ec/athletic/personal

[jolly lichen]

also reader comment that personal should possibly be a 2

[late zenith]

what is personal tbh

is it just ur essays and LOR

and interview

[pulsar pond]

my athletics would be a 6

i literally mentioned nothing about athletics

[storm condor]

yeah

[bitter path]

Are u disabled??

[pulsar pond]

when I got a silver for shot put in D3 (that's where my school belongs I don't get to choose)

[pulsar pond]

no

[bitter path]

If u are not doing anything for athletics then u just get a 4

[jolly lichen]

interviewer was 1/2/2 (no athletic), 2+ overall

[late zenith]

ask #📝-essays im curious

to know as well

[pulsar pond]

damn slay

[bitter path]

6 is for like someone who couldn’t participate due to physical limitations I believe

Or maybe that’s a 5

[pulsar pond]

that's very sad

in the sense that it's unfair

[bitter path]

It truly doesn’t affect ur chances

[pulsar pond]

yeah ik

my best friend's sister went to harvard

[rancid mural]

sports r gross

[pulsar pond]

throughout my high school career I just tried to mimic her profile as much as I could

[rancid mural]

why

carbon copies r exactly the thing they dont want

[pulsar pond]

but her essays were absolutely dope af (but she had Crimson education with her so 🫠)

[late zenith]

is crimson education good

[pulsar pond]

I didn't necessarily completely copy don't worry

[late zenith]

they look like a scam

[pulsar pond]

i just did mun because she did

[late zenith]

esp for intls

[rancid mural]

what is crimson education

[pulsar pond]

and when i think about mun it's only because i'm good at bullshitting

which is why i did it

[pulsar pond]

admissions consulting firm

pretty big in Asia Pacific i would say

[jolly lichen]

something like that

[pulsar pond]

if u joined early

[rancid mural]

oh i have consultant

[pulsar pond]

I think they offer u opportunities for research

[rancid mural]

he has been p helpful

[pulsar pond]

or ecs

i went to a free consultation session

[rancid mural]

told me a lot that i had no idea abt as an fgli

[pulsar pond]

behind my mom's back

bro told me not to apply to financial aid

crazy

[late zenith]

consulting only good for essays

everything else is free on a2c

[rancid mural]

for harvard or elsewhere

[pulsar pond]

everywhere

i get what he meant for need-aware schools

[rancid mural]

i understand why he said that

yeah

[pulsar pond]

but surely not harvard brother

[rancid mural]

a lot r need aware for intls

[pulsar pond]

they're need-blind do you think I don't know

[pulsar pond]

i'm not intl 😭

[rancid mural]

why would he say that then

[pulsar pond]

idk

[bitter path]

Gurl wb ur citizenship