#Dartmouth College (2023-2024)
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biggreen can i dm
I wouldn't mention a specific house
many greek houses have those things, so feel free to highlight those draws of greek life
i'd rather discuss here, but if you must
its totally fine if its not possible tho
good idea thx
Just had my interview. What they asked me (for those who need it) were:
- where are you from, where do you study, 3rd culture kid questions
- why Dartmouth
- any questions about Dartmouth
Pretty short, but loved the experience
Super stressed throughout tho lmao
damn i haven't researched why dartmouth
yo my interviewer hasnt responded to my email for 5 days and I asked them if they could do it this saturday. should I email them again or wait until tommorow 😭
i'm boutta go big green with my interview tomorrow now 🥱 🌲 🌲
Where do you find your application id
I think u better email ngl
they might have forgotten, email em
my Dartmouth interviewer texted me and i viewed it right after and i didn’t have read receipts turned off 
hi! i'm a junior and really interesting in dartmouth- i have a bunch of questions so is there anyone i could dm? or should i send them all here
go for it here
you'll get more perspectives
can I bring a notebook full of questions to ask during my in person interview
sure
👌
How much does dartmouth care about gpa or stats in general?
How much do they care about academic talent and displays of it? Relative to how much they care about creativity?
How do I demonstrate "fit" for dartmouth?
Strong academics are essential.
Your fit comes through in essays, interview
is there anything they particularly like in an application?
and how much do they care about olympiads?
I can't say for sure. My opinion on them isn't great
had my interview
went great
me and the interviewer really vibed
hi sorry my comprehension is gone right now, do you mean that they don't like olympiads or your opinion wouldn't hold much weight?
I don't know what they think of them. I personally don't tihnk they are as great as people here do
your transcript shows you are strong at math or science. They haveno leadership and no impact
ah i see, that makes sense
i have an opinion that’s worth about as much as you paid for it
but olympiads are good
however
there r ppl who unironically just grind olympiads
and that’s great but like
amass a wealth of experience
in life
like as much as a seventeen-year-old can
work a job, volunteer somewhere, have fun, etc.
the second aspect is to actually know why you’re applying
other than the fact that the school is cracked
if you’re not interested you’ll sound disinterested
that’s unironically more or less all you need for the writing
be a real whole human that doesnt just afk grind olympiads (im not accusing u of being one of those ppl) and have a well-developed idea of why you’re applying
:o this is really insightful
this is, of course, really generic advice
i wish i had the talent to afk grind olympiads
but the proportion of olympiad kids to general t20 kids is wild at my school so i thought they were really prestigious
they are
def
but most olympiad grinders are also psycho tryhards in diff ways so
lawl
personally i have like 1 decent ec and that’s it
so if this whole thing goes well for me

it’d be funny
do you havw something you love
parents had me enrolled in chinese version of aops at 4 😭
a lot of things im interested in, or passionate about but i don't think i have something i can say i "love"
ye idk i was a fucking kumon grinder lmfao
my parents finally let me wuit in like first or second grade when it got to a point where i’d be crying every time i did the hw and they had to yell at me to do it
💀💀💀💀
it
certainly helped a lot
i was cracked at it
its traumatizing but also character building
but like idk if i would do it again
that shit did not build my character
but i factorized a trinomial faster when i was six than i do now
💀
💀
life was diff back then
now i am hardstuck
peak at six years of age

dont be like me fr
i think i peaked when i was 8
gg
its jover
thx
yeah, this is probably more the issue.
does applying as a major vs undecided matter at all for admissions?
the 2 majors i want to do are 2 of the most popular majors at dartmouth and idk if that's advantageous or disadventageous
Dartmouth doesn't admit by major
schools not admitting by major seems so unbelievable to me even tho it makes sense and is true
yo can't declare until your 5th term
ohh okay
They expect that people will change and adapt their interests
my interviewer was so nice 🫶🏼🫶🏼
Waiting for Dartmouth interview I want it so bad
gave me a lot of info on dartmouth too
IT WAS GREAT
SHE GOT ME BOBA TOO
jan 8
i submitted the day of the deadline for dartmouth too 😭
but shes very close in my area
we met up somewhere like 15 mins from my place
NAURRR
this might be my only one idk 💀
naur indeed
in person>>>>
I can rizz someone up in person but virtually is just not the same
felt like we could connect more
REAL
im trynna look in their eyes but i have to look at the camera for that 💀
like i'm looking at the screen to see their face but then i look at me and my head is like titled down at a 90 degree angle
we were both basically side eyeing each ofher
LMFAO
bros looking at the floor
shy vibes
FR
i also feel kinda dumb getting dressed in a suit just to sit in my office chair for an hour
U DRESSED IN A SUIT
i will
i feel like dartmouth isn't preppy vibes so maybe not
but for like yale and princeton i intend on wearing a suit
i wore a suit for my jefferson scholarship interview and i'm a finalist so it's my lucky interview suit now
princeton i wore a turtleneck 💀
WWW
my dartmouth interviewer only gave me her first name how am i supposed to linkedin stalk her
i had princeton a couple hours before dartmouth
BRO
I found my interviewer on LinkedIn just to get an idea of what he was interested in/majored in and I thought I found him went to Princeton and everything... but the guy on linkedin is class of 2014 but my interviewer just emailed me and he has '97 next to his name 
LMFAO DO U NOT HAVE EMAIL
idk what's real or not real
lmao thats so funny like imagine he showed up looking completely different than what you thought
she texted me 😭
texted?? tf
LMAO THATS AMAZING
yeah like :)
ikr she just graduated so hopefully shes chill
oh damn
thats what im saying 😭
nice!
we started talking about the alcoholic stereotype lol
and i quote “these people drink hella bro”
LMAO
so much easier having a young interviewer than an old one
based
tf we talked about percy jackson vs harry potter
this is not most people's impression. 😄
i just thought interviews were more of a business casual type thing
I didn't talk about anything academic for my essays for dartmouth
but I think what I wrote about was very original and strong so will they ask about academic pursuits and intrests in the interview?
Im an athlete and I wanna do smth in sports medicine
your interviewer doesn't know anything about your app
oh ok
I feel like Dartmouth gives more small community vibes than preppy vibes. I guess one could be the other
I took a gamble with not writting abt smth academic but oh well
Yeah, can easily be both
What sport?
Awesome
ive been big on human movement and sports medicine bc ive been doing sports all my life and I've also been injured
in running
so its like a athlete-medicine connection type deal
I wrote all about it in other college supplements but I didnt use it for dartmouth
for those who have been interviewed, do dartmouth interviewers have access to your file? as in, do they know some of your background (like EC's or essays)
No
this is true for every school i know of
they get your name, phone, school, email
they know whatever you tell them
ah, i see
😉
no they don't
also know that there is a hard 40-minute time limit for your interview
That is not true...
me with 2 hour long interview
what
Everyones is under 45 chill
no that's fine
not true, but also not the point
Uhhh my interviewer mentioned that tho?
That is potentially their target, but plenty of interviews go over it
Also read it in Ptons document
True, but not online ones
Plenty of online ones do too
Since they can measure it through the zoom meeting
Oh alri 
but bruh i saw someone got 2h interview
My target was always about 45 min, but I've had up to 90
Is that bad then? Having the recommended?
on zoom?
Yes
Did they not like us or smthn along those lines?
No. You're fine
they said i did was good
45min is a totally normal length
or my english was bad lol
or 38 or whatever
they likely said that they would leave 20 min, it's fine not to have 20min of questions
Ok, say we reached the point of Dartys drinking culture, is that a red flag
You're fine, stop worrying about it
what about it?
in 90m like how many mins are the ques for u not u asking them
He was reassuring me that it isn't like it says online
I didn't specifically ask for that
DAMN I ALSO ACCIDENTALLY SAID THAT I WANTED TO ATTEND TUCK
I aim for more of a conversation than interrogation. But longer ones generally have more questions from the applicant
He said the uni distanced itself from the greek culture
and i came to realize it's only for grad
then it has no bearing on your interview
And then when I asked him bout the newspapers, he went quiet again
well that isn't ideal...
I did ask: "is that because of the drinking culture" in the flow of conversation
ik did i mess it up
but isn't the end of the world. Tuck does offer a few UG classes
But it was casual
but im intl stu
And had demonstrated interest before that
this is fine
he did correct me afterwards
He didn't seem to note it either
i was scared
One thing I did in my interiews that I wish more people did in ensure that your questions won't be ussed against you. Ask about drinking or whatever. I won't mention it in my report
I want you to get the real information you ned
stop
is that okay im asking fr
we don't know anything about this one. From all accounts you did fine
damn i want to get in
MINE HAD
No
they actually had im telling u
As someone who has assigned interviews and done over 100. They do not have access to it
yes
no
i saw people getting accepted to 5 ivies told that u shouldn't mention things in ur app and try to tell sth outside that u didnt get a chance to write in
so that means they had ur app and read it
They do not
and i'm not sure why what you said, which isn't bad advice means that they do
but do they know ur intended major
I think so. The emails of my past assignments didn't have it, but it is possible it was in the interview report site
damn but i know the interviewer before the interview so he knew sth
ok that is different
no cause we went to same highschool
right, so if they know about you it is from knowing you, not your app
omg all my ivies interviews are with the person share the same nationality w me
i felt awkward
is that shocking?
Interview went great
It was a little bit over 1 hour
Why did no one tell me how hard and awkward it is when ending and leaving the in person interview 😭
I literally mentioned that I have to take the chicken out of the freezer when I get home
And I said drive safe like 4 times
me lol
mfs dont go
mental
over random things
it's literally portal astrology level stuff
unless your interviewer obviously disliked you you're probably ok ngl
unless u were like lowkey acting like a paid actor it was probably ok
same my interview almost went for 2 hours
Seniors can interview for Dartmouth
confused lol
thought it was only for international
interview in 1 hour :O
GOOD LUCK
dartmouth offers interviews?
also does anyone know when the dartmouth peer rec was due
january 12
yes
if your peer submitted it on january 14th, is it fine
yeah probably
Yes it does
any interview tips i should know??
I still havent gotten an interview:(
me too 😦
That's fine, you may never get one
Out here crushing dreams
It’s fine. It’s the second year I’m applying and last year I got an interview invitation on Valentine’s Day.
Don’t worry too much really!
my darty interviewer wants to meet at a pizza place at 5pm LMFOJOFSFJDGODFJGLK
fnaf fr
guys, does Dartmouth assign a student ID to its prospective students?
i've been searching for my application ID in my applicant portal for a good hour and couldn't find it
I dont think o
thats hype
i went to mine at a pub lmao
what 💀
Should I follow up on my interviewer if he still hasn't responded back since the 10th
yes
Because I chose the option to do it over a zoom call which says that he will try pairing me with an alumnus and that these zoom interviews are through mid-February
My dartmouth zoom interview is supposed to be tdoay at 6:00-6:30
Been in the meeting room since 5:53 nobody yet
But he's a senior, so probably just running late on classe or something
you're early...
I wouldn't be there at 5:50 for a 6pm call
becaue then it would be a 5:50 call
Yuh interview etiquette to show up at least 5-10 minutes early
yes, but not to expect them to be there early too
yes ik
it's 6:06 now; just talking to fill the time lol
meh i've shown up early to all of my other zoom interviews usually 5 minutes or so and they've all been there and thanked me for being early so I just kept going with it
i usually show up 1-2 min early
they dont end up joining till the given time anyways
At what point should I email him to confirm there hasn't been any changes? I was thinking 6:30
6:10 prob
yeah, 6:15?
sorry im sure this is something i could look up but are dartmouth interviews still evaluative?
yes
I was wondering why I got offered a senior interview. I just looked at my interviewers LinkedIn and realized he is literally from where I am from
That could be part of it. My generaly advice is "Don't read into things"
Yeah for sure good advice
I just think there are no alumni in my area at all so they went with a senior who came from my area instead
Do you guys know when the last interviews would be offered?
late feb?
I know I shouldn't be concerned just yet but I figured I would hear within the next month
I am (in my opinion) pretty sure that most of these colleges can go to late Feb-early March
Ah yeah thats what I assumed
I got my interview at my REA school like 15 days before the decision was released so lol
My last year interviewing (or maybe second last) I got some ED assignments the week of thanksgiving when the deadline was the next week
Oh you're an interviewr? That's cool I didn't know lol
basically people they didn't have locals to cover and I had signed up to step up in areas they needed it
I used to be, I can't with my job now
that's interesting they conduct evaluative interviews so close to the decision release
i guess interviews are not a huge deciding factor but still
I've seen you in all kinds of chats, but you seem mostly active in Dartmouth so perhaps Dartmouth lol
Dartmouth....
oh lol
That's cool
Don't ... me smh I thought so but I wasn't sure
How long of no response should I stay in the Zoom waiting room?
635
no longer than 6:30
honestly, you could dip now
Yeah
I was excited for this interview though
Dartmouth is one of my top choices, I really like their environment and campus smh
I didn't get that feeling from how he worded it. He said for a 30-minute interview and he said the best time slot that would for him today would be 6:00-6:30 PM and the invitation says start at 6:00
But hopefully he will reschedule
Probably just busy
ohhh okay yeah then
got caught in a lecture or lab or something maybe
Welp I have left
Hopefully he gets back to me soon
Just to cover my bases, if for some reason he ghosts me (which is highly unlikely) would I need to contact someone after a certain timeframe in admissions?
@stark lark
you could, but likely there isn't oging to be much recourse
def email to check in for later
Okay
When emailed my interviewer I said if he needs to reschedule just to let me know and I’m free Monday Wednesday Thursday Friday next week.
I would email that you were sorry he counldn't make it, but are still interested in talking to him, and then XYZ is your availability over the weekend and next week
He said “I apologize for the inconvenience and I truly appreciate your patience with me. I’m available (his availbility)”
Lol
Yuh I'm just glad he emailed back 🙏
Just got my interview 🙏🙏 thought all hope was lost
well... it is based on availability, so there was no problem not getting one
but exciting!
Do interviewers see your EC list?
this dude is a goldman sachs analyst who runs an anti abortion, pro conservative family values organization.. my ECs include campaigning for democratic politicians and lgbt activism 😭😭
No, they see nothing about you other than:
Name, school, email, phone
thank god lmfao
...
Lmao my interview was crazy
He was asking what I think about the Ukraine war and what our policy should be
And whos gonna win our election
yikes
not good
If you wre my student I would report that, but I get that in your position you might not
but that is super inappropriate
are interviews any indication of how well ur app is doing, or are they strictly offered based on regional availability
i still haven't gotten one yet but just curious if "anyone" can receive one or if they are mostly offered to the more competitive applicants
availability
I just had my interview:
They told me that interviews are given to everyone in the ED round. But for RD applicants (at least in my case/area I guess) they are given to people who've gotten through the first "cut" of Admissions (he said limited down to 10,000-15,000 people)(?)
I don't know what this means for everyone across the board, but that's what they told me
And I'm from the Midwest btw
Bruh my interview was 1 hr 50 minutes too 😭
Their area may be able to give out to all their ED applicants, but that isn't globally true
but mosts of the rest is BS
there is no cut
Idk that's just what he told me 💀 ig he was just yapping
Some please lmk if their interviewers said anything similar
I haven't been the perosn assigning interview in a few years, but this was NOT the case
Okay thank you 😭 I don't know what he was on about then bc I was taken aback by it too 😭
Whole interview was moderately odd
dartmouth is so cool
had my interview
so awesome
the alumni seemed super engaged
I feel like Dartmouth just breeds genuinely nice people
My Dartmouth interviewer was one of the most down to earth and nice people I’ve ever talked to
Great experience
😁😁
same!!
he was talking about how dartmouth fosters open conversation
so even tho theres polarization, the admin team tries its best to do like seminars/workshops to bridge the political divide through dialogue
thought that was cool
They also jut started a new like... open conversation program
a thing teh new president initiatedd
yaya thats what the alum was talking about
obviously not going to solve everything but it's nice
my description is bad, but I can send the link about it if you want
https://home.dartmouth.edu/dartmouth-dialogues this one right
yep
Mine did too a lot lol
must mean something!!
just received an interview invite!
It wasn’t that bad just sort of caught me off guard lol. Dude kinda reminded me of Al Gore but he was chill
damn my friend just told me that she sent peer rec only like yesterday
Is it over for me
i mean, you may have been fnie, but those are definitely not appropriate topics for a college interview
^^ same thing happened with me
he asked about my thoughts on AA/DEI policies
prob not appropriate
but at least he agreed with my viewpoint
ugh, that sucks
That’s a whole other level omg
Next he’s gonna ask you bout abortion 😂
HE DID
well not really
we spoke about religion/ideologies in women's rights
but that was very risky
he didn't agree with me on that much
This is the worst interview of all time
YOURS? im sure it was great
Y’all have crazy interview questions 😭
It was okay Ukraine was super out of left field tho lol
was it related to what you were talking about?
like diplomacy
Literally no
that's crazy dang
well if you articulated your viewpoint well enough, it should be okay
but crazy that they ask these questions to little 17 year olds
Yeah I’ve had two other ones and neither were anything like that
my interviewer was much more chill 💀
we debated percy jackson
and talked about dartmouth
politics is wild
i had my interview this morning it was so great we were like actually the same person it was crazy
i havent sent my finaid yet is that ok
my interviewer got kinda pissy that i answered the adversity question with "social anxiety", and then revealed like 5 minutes later that "oh yeah i used to be homeless"
overall his notes were that i'm VERY intense, and that I should probably slow down in life and stop stop to smell the roses. idk if these are good signs
ughhh i want an interview they seem fun
well i only had this one interview. but yeah it was pretty chill, the guy asked me like one starter question and then let me yap for 20 minutes, and just bounced off of what i was saying for most of the rest of it
it was mostly just a conversation
Anyone else not get their interview invitation yet ✋
Probably lots of people. It doesn't mean anything
meeee and i live in a big city area 😓
+1
yea i haven’t
but a friend did
i havent but im intl
so i doubt imma be gettin one
Just found out my friend hasn’t uploaded her rec
Soon to be ex friend if she doesn’t do it by EOD 😭
end of december 
There is a tick next to css profile and additional fin aid material on my portal. Does this mean that they have received my parents' documents that I sent them through mail? They didn't really mail me back anything and I am not sure if additional fin aid material on the portal had a tick previously or not. Should I mail them or is it fine? I am international btw.
+1
I've only had the interview for georgetown (and babson but I registered for that one)
Dartmouth interview only scheduled for 25 minutes 🤨
unless theyre really busy it will probably go over that
mine are all scheduled for 30-40 min but end up being longer
Unfortunately, she sent out a sign up genius and she’s packed with interviews
Same here 😭 I have to scope out 2 hours just to be safe
Both my online ones went well but the interviewer cut them off exactly at 40
Dartmouth interview tomorrow at 8:00. Hopefully goes better than last time!
gl bro
You'll be fine. There is nothing to be scared of
power move it fr
LMFAO me n my interviewer had sm trouble trying to get this interview scheduled
ME LOL
She’s def pissed 😭
Not worth being scared of these interviews. I've had a wonderful experience with all of my interviewers (granted my Dartmouth one didn't show up the first scheduled time we had set but definitely nothing bad). Most of them are just alumni/sometimes seniors who aren't drilling you for anything they're just trying to get a good "picture" of who yo uare
uhhhhh
This time the Zoom interview does not have a waiting room it just let me join straight up
the darty interviewers are really nice
mine hasn't shown up yet again 😦
lmfao same 😭
he sent the zoom invite to the wrong email and i got stressed out looking for it LMFAO
My counselor just told me that the admissions office emailed her asking for my IB predicted grade 
is it a good thing?
Not sure, my mid-term report was sent around a month ago and they still requested for my predicted
Might be borderline
Umm
true true
nether good nor bad, just normal
how many minutes is the interview supposed to last
Mine is scheduled for 2(
25
25 mins??
30-45 is typical but less or more is normal too
i thought it was 60 mins...
Prob depends
mine was like an hour
Interviewer’s availability matters most
i guess
Like there’s no way for mine to go over since there’s gonna be a new person right after
had a friend interview today ,, his lasted 18mins..interviewer had a clod so couldnt really keep it going..is that bad
yehhh
Yeah it def varies, as long as u convey who u are then ur fine
fingers crossed..I was sooo worried for him because he told me he ended it himself because he was fumbling 😔😔😢
nah he just left
mine was na hour and a half
ive heard similar from some other people
Yeh mine was an hour
😭
mine was like 80 mins
Yehh hm
had my interview 🙏 talked about beer
was literally the most dartmouth man to ever exist. IB guy with a backwards baseball cap and polo who loved talking about his frat. an icon tbh
im scareddd im not getting an interview
i do well in interviews tho ug so it woiuld be kinda sad if i didnt even tho ik theyre optional anyways
which frat?
not gewtting one isn't scary... it is based on availability
yeah i know i just feel like i may benefit from getting one because im pretty social. if theyre still evaluative
SAE 💀
also, im in a pretty big dc area that i know has a good dartmouth alumni network so part of me is afraid its bc im a "less competitive applicants"
conversation def made greek life more favorable in my eyes
def not a greek life person but id seriously consider it here
i wasn't planning on it going on, my wife wasn't either, but it was a big part of our experiences
it isn't
obviously
rough history from what ive heard lol. he said there was a historical zero sexual assault allegations during his time! which im not entirely sure is something you should have to brag about
dude was very chill
dartmouth slowly becoming my top choice fr
You went to Dartmouth? The name makes sense...
I did
my love for dartmouth started slowly then all at once as I saw how perfect a fit it was
Just got my Dartmouth interview but he wants to do it in 2 days but idk how to drive and my parents aren’t home 💀
virtual? somewhere walkable from your house?
another person who doesn’t drive 🙌
uber
Failed my test 4 times!
Yeah that’s the plan
Five star rating yk how it is 🥱
Get that safety checkup rating up before talking 🤧
Urs is only one more than mine 😭😭
Wait did you schedule your Uber ahead of time
Yeah i reserved it
Womp womp it’s like having two nobel prizes vs just one
There's a Dartmouth alum with two nobel prizes!
How do I do this 😭
I just found out that my friend has an interview with the same exact guy on the same day 😭
i like how the reviews of interviews here are like
either the most terrible acid trip type experience or the most insanely based forty-five minutes out of eighteen years of life
resesrve an uber ahead? It's an option inside the app
prob bias since people with avg experiences dont have much to say but w/e
also YALL how do i convince my friend that the peer rec was due WEEKS AGO
she says the portal states that the deadline hasn’t passed yet for her
Just tell her you need it in
it's the weekend, they can find an hour or two to do i
or bail on them and ask someone else?
i would’ve if she said she didn’t have time… i asked her late November to write it
i assumed she would have gotten it in since i reminded her multiple times 💔
bro is highkey trolling i wont lie
prob ask another person
i dont see how anything changes in the next few weeks and at this point the sooner the better
or go to their house and make them do it lol
i mean i get it bc it was college app season for her but zamn
slight troll i wont lie
she went to a kpop concert December 🙄

IN LE MIDDLE OF LES COLLEGE APPS
absttctstqhgrbwoowfyywbengyt616:)),72)&
respect at that point
🫡
Thanks! I just found it
I mean, most people writing peer recs are also doing apps
it takes an hour or tow
I guess maybe applying ED worked in my favor since my friend wasn't as busy yet?
Mine was 30 minutes on the button but I’m chilling dude definitely had load of work to do
Interview went well even tho it was short
She asked 5 questions for anyone who has one coming up:
Tell me about yourself
Tell me about your favorite class
How has music played a role in your life
Tell me about something not on your application
Why Dartmouth
thank you 🙏
r u doing something related to music 💀
doomed if she randomly asked i think
No, but it was the last thing on my resume
they asked about ur specific ecs?
no for some reason
honestly, before the interview, Dartmouth was my least fav college i applied to but now it’s top 5
Why do we base Spring off of a rodent
I did some more research on it and I lowkey am in love now
Theres gotta be an old Chinese proverb for falling into something unlikely or sum shit
NOOOO
more time to prepare ig
same highkey, became my top choice when researching for supps
I have 3 more interviews this week 😭
you have a lot of preparation to do then
Good luck Ruby 🤞🍀🍀
YOU CAN DO IT 💪
THANK YOU!!
dartmouth gave similar vibes to stanford to me tbh
less stemmy tho
its very uncompetitive and it feels like everyones there to support each other
Yess exactly
F stanford
Our (my friend’s and mine) Dartmouth interviewer canceled on my friend after she drove 40 mins in pouring rain + wind (police department said stay off the road if you can) and our interviewer didn’t even tell her that the interview was canceled until she emailed him asking where he was 💀
My interviewer asked to postpone my interview
Thankfully 3 days ahead of the interview
Dang mine did too
I got a 2 hr notice but at least it was before I started driving 40 minutes in the pouring rain 😭
W
both trees bahahahahah
Dartmouth becomes test required 🙄
FR?
damn dartmouth is like georgetown now
I think rather than this, assume a flood of schools are to follow
Dartmouth really did the research to back the decision ig
They were looking at this when I worked there, but actually at that point data was pointing the other way!
i actually heard mit is thinking of doing the opposite and removing theirs from one of the lincoln lab facilitators
they're waiting to see what this class's demographic looks like
How do they define disadvantaged students? That's my question...
i submitted my mid 1400 to their fly in as an upper middle class student and got in
I mean for most Asian countries where a majority of the applicants are poor...if you see who got in...most will have a 1500+
agreed, seems like all the data is pointing towards tests being the best indicator
i mean they suck to take and all but its clearly the fairest method of comparison
Also, I do think that the test optional policy is making the average scores of each uni much higher than it should be
Like I've seen people not submitting a 1500 on SAT bcas they think it's a good score.
mhm, which leads to more people applying test optional and the cycle repeating
1400 ranges used to be in the averages
and they are more fair now than ever before. The amount of freely available prep material is insane
True
One thing that can be better is making SAT fee waivers available to intl students with disadvantaged background
Now many think that 1400 is crap
I took SAT twice
I got 1430 the first time and people around me was like I'd never submit that score
sad fact is it really isnt
yale even kinda suggests submitting a 1400 (near pretest opt average) on one of their podcasts
i didnt retake
well i did
but i didnt study
i didnt really know how
I did
A lot
i think thats entirely dependent on each individual school though tbh
and how classes at that school are structured in general
But Caltech being test blind is insane
its kinda the precedent in california
stanford is a strong supporter of test optional, ucs test blind
some of the claremonts as well iirc
plus it makes sense even moreso now because i heard its even hard to schedule sats at the little amount of testing centers because so many kids from the cali highschools go test optional (take with a grain a salt cuz this is anecdotal data and just something i heard from my friend)
Don't really know what's going through their heads...🫡
Whose?
california schools
like i said, data is dependent on each of the schools curriculum and the way their classes are structured
bro did yall see dartmouth brought back sat
rip im obviously v late, time to backread
that's whwat we are talkin about...
im sure with the way caltech is set up, the sat metric doesn't matter to them
i mean the thing is: how can a standardized multiple choice test dictate how well you'll do at a school thats majority/completely free response
besides showing study habits and how good someone is at solving sat questions
it just ultimately depends on each individual school
what is the purpose of the test in the first place
like im p sure no matter what major or country or education system you're in, you'll be learning more advanced english and math throughout high school than the sat tests
and you'll obviously have your grades
i get that the test is standardized
but like education isn't standardized so can you judge people on a common metric when everybody grows up in a different learning environment
its kinda surprising to see how many people literally don’t know the difference between their and they’re
was that targeted at me or are you referring to the test lol
Oh I was just talkin about the test
I think it should serve as at least a ballpark since the schools around the world operate a lot differently
And also the homeschooled kids
thats fair yeah but there's also a large majority of people who just cant do tests
whether due to test anxiety or the time pressure
i get the sat test for intl students but not as much national, esp when we have ap scores
i have a friend who can do advanced math and english but can't cross 1300 for sat
Still no interview gang wya?
meeee
Yooo wsg 😭
i just saw a dartmouth alumni post on instagram for my city tho saying they are low on interviewers and they need people to volunteer 😭 so its probably fine
yeah see this is me, i would consider myself very good at calculus and other high lvl math but i just am very bad at taking test so i just did pretty mid on the ACT
does Dartmouth really match you with someone from your city?
i am not arguing against standardized testing though...i do think it is a good metric but it shouldnt be weighed as heavily if required, which is what i think theyre trying to do. seems like its just going to be used as another point for holistic review
cuz I am an international (in Asia) but my interviewer is currently at Dartmouth... 😂
13 hours difference...
yeah usually (i think)
ohh ic
i feel like test optional also made the submittable score range way higher at these rlly selective universities, like i know people with 1400s who chose not to submit scores just because they didnt feel good enough even though they spent hours studying to get those scores which is kind of annoying. i feel like making it required MAY seem stressful at first but its going to be so much better
it totally did, 1400 should realistically be an acceptable score considering its in the 90% percentile
and i am test optional for this reason ^ but i feel like it's hurting me a bit
exactly, but test optional kinda ruins this
Yeah right, and it will only go up
i went test optional as well
havent necessarily had bad results though
i sort of am
so i cant say for certain if its been bad for me 😭
what major have u been applying as?
yeah i can sort of say the same, i guess the worst i've been having is deferrals lol
whats your score?
I guess the digital SAT will even bring the range up
31 so not great but something i wouldve submitted years ago lol
breakdown? and what major
thats true
im really not good at taking tests though because i have rlly bad attention issues (which isnt a great excuse lol) but if tests were req it wouldnt hurt me as much submitting that yk opposed to if i were to now
thats fair yeah
im ngl i submitted mine here and yale
see this is where it gets weird...i'm applying astrophysics but i got 36 on reading/writing (i think? this was last spring) and my math score bumped me down
not astro here though
i applied QSS
but pretty much everywhere else i applied physics or political science
Also, ngl the sat should be cheaper than way it is now since it became digital
whats qss?
quantitative social science?
ah
hahaha i knowww i just like government and science so its hard to choose, i just picked based on the schools' programs
i have a similar issue 😭😭 if i was nonstem by score would be so much better
yes
i didnt apply dart i just came here for the test discussion
fair
im an english or eng adjacent major and got 770 M 740 EBRW lol
yesss it sucks like i swear im good at mathhhhh i just fd up on ACT
whered you get deferred from?
Not for me
like since the introduction of Digital SAT, the average score at my school has risen so much
i hate dsat
same i can get an A in calc 3 and diff eq but not a 750 on math
That's the goal
Brandon did you still end up applying Columbia?
michigan :/
biggreen did you do interviewd this year
yes but ehh about going
literally me
well, the EBRW is easier tho (like compared to the paper one)
There is, part of physics department
Are there fewer Dartmouth alumni than other schools?
For interviews
Valid
oh ya i know i just didnt apply for physics here
I'm not allowed to anymore
Does dartmouth admit by major
They probably do it at a higher percentage given how involved alums are, but it's a smaller school
No, you declare in your 5th or 6th term
i did pen paper in 2021 and got 1510, took a practice dsat last year and got 1440
I figured
oh why if you're allowed to share
i hope dartmouth still considers legacy bc thats what im riding here.....hahahaha
I'm a college counselor
due to the current political state of the world, dartmouths definitely gone up in my list due to how they're handling it
ohhhh right
oh, I am in the opposite situation 😂
I thought you were blacklisted there
can you elaborate? in dms if you dont wanna here
💀 like someone at their school broke ed?
No
well i'll just hope they don't hold it against me
😭 manifesting for you
Do you regret doing epc
how else do you gety bkacklisted
sure, in a few
your school can have a bad rep for other reasons apparently
its a free trip to nyc 😭
like inflating grades and stuff
Ask Brandon
I meant over bound
That won't get your school in trouble, it'll just be known
do you have a reason to think that's blacklisted you
they didnt
rubys joking
I know an IMO gold medalist who couldn’t get 800 on the math after several tries
ya so basically F the sat!!!!11!!111!
no i mean inconsistently inflating grades, like in the case of certain students
they definitely got mad but theres no way they can hold that against me no?
oh 😭
guys basically only 1 month until ivy day
They wouldn't know about that really
because march doesnt count
ohhhhhhhhhh
!ivyday
Ivy Day decisions come out <t:1711666800:F> in your local time
1 month, 23 days and 6 hours until the decision date
im going 0-6 with rd schools
n=1
I have like 17 schools pending 
lol i shotgunned ed so i only have 16 remaining out of which 3 are defers
but like from the 16 its only 6 rd
cuz you have uc's and uwash and stuff
oh yeh, UCs
Were u a former dartmouth ao?
At the current state of college admissions I don’t think there’s a single right answer for tests. I have a lot of arguments against standardized tests and for standardized tests
No, registrar
I know so many people who perform poorly in calculus 1 but get 1500+ on the SAT, same goes other way around sure it’s reflective of ability to study and take tests? Maybe even a reflection of the basics in math and English. But I think the entirety of the data that supports the idea of submitting tests is not an accurate representation of the situation at all
if i did the pen paper one i'd get like 1200 but with the digital one i found it much easier
hi! it’s the second year i’m applying to dartmouth. last year i got an interview. do you think there is a chance i can get one this year as well? some schools only allow one interview no matter how many times you apply.
we can't say
yeah im so glad i didnt apply cuz thats just another reason on my long list of why i dont like columbia
im about to run 0-8
💀
i lowkey applied to all 8 only for the shitpost
that and my parents wanted me to

BASED
College board gives colleges a slew of calculations on various factors that disadvantage students (i.e. family stability), sum them up in an ‘ECD’ (formerly), and sells them to colleges
that was literally half my why dartmouth essay lmao
chat did i miss the test required discussion 😭
mhm
MY INTERVIEW IS TODAY HOLY SHIT
Yes
Gl!!!
Mine was supposed to be yesterday 😒
not dartmouth bringing back the sat next year 💀
what happened?
He canceled bc flight delays due to weather
Hopefully he emails me to reschedule
o yea
its ok i rescheduled with my person like 3 times to get to today
if it doesnt happen today 💀
yoo mid 50% range for dartmouth includes 1440 already
oh wait thats pre test optional
lol I submitted for Dartmouth test optional
had a 1450 :/
low income ish too
womp womp
i submitted test required mid 1400
you could've submitted tbh
yea
so i think i met the qualifications(?)
What did u get?
Right
thats what they have on their website
for deciding whether to submit tests
there is
i updated my app with mine
Really?
it'd probably be a good choice imo given how they're switching to test required
“At your request, Dartmouth will not consider your SAT or ACT test scores as a part of your application.”
That’s what shows up on the application portal
hit report testing
on update app
you need image perms so you'd need to level up a bit more
did you find it?
ill dm it to you
sounds good
check dm
❤️
i think i bombed that interview
:/ she asked me what other ivys i applied to 💀 and i panicked
what did u say
I SAID ONLY CORNELL BC I WAS PEER PRESSURED
💀
AND THATS ALSO A LIE BECCAUSE I APPLIED TO UPENN AS WELL...
mine peer pressured me as well LMFAOOO
i said i got into one of my safeties hoping they wouldnt question
they cant check where i applied to right? 💀
i def did not prepare enough :/
no its ok
im just gonna hope for the best now 🙏
i usually take them on spontaneously
