#Harvey Mudd vs UMich ??

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steep fog
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Wait why was my message deleted 😭 ?

late drum
steep fog
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that makes sense i see

late drum
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posting for @steep fog Harvey Mudd vs UMich!! I just got rejected from WASP yesterday and I'm not really confident in my other schools, so I'm just trying to find what school would probably suit me better.

Schools: Harvey Mudd (CS/Math) and UMich (Ross)
Intended Major: For HMC, it would me CS/Math. For UMich, it would be business. It's more like quant finance vs finance for me.
Similarities: Literally like nothing, they are polar opposite schools in terms of vibe, size, and weather. Other than maybe the fact that they are both great schools for STEM.

University of Michigan Ross:
Pros:

  • Fantastic business school that are targets for both consulting and finance.
  • 2 hour flight from where I live (NYC).
  • I can double major in engineering if I would like
  • I get a free macbook air if I attend
  • I got a full ride as OOS
  • Ann Arbor is a fantastic place.
  • Alumni. Need I say more?

Cons:

  • I don't believe I can double major in CS and Business since I didn't get into CS advanced selection (I didn't even apply).

  • It's a bit too big for my liking.

  • Very big greek life and I feel like I won't be able to do that well in recruiting if I don't join clubs and frats.

  • I've never done CS before, and I think it might hold me back if I start in college (Ik many people start extremely early)

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Harvey Mudd
Pros:

  • Fantastic school for STEM (probably better than UMich)
  • Smaller and near a bunch of other fantastic LACs.
  • I think I can double major in economics (from what I've heard) at CMC, correct me if I'm wrong.
  • Tech recruiters recruit from HMC on campus.
  • Fantastic undergrad education.
  • Much better if I'd like to pursue a grad school.
  • Second highest college in starting and mid career pay

Cons:

  • Really far away from home.
  • Not sure about financial aid yet (I'm FGLI and I need a ton of aid)
  • Course rigor is pretty hard, just like every other STEM school.
  • I'm not sure how HMC does in quant finance in NYC, and I'm also not sure if I'm even smart enough to do quant.
steep fog
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thank you

late drum
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idt mich does well in quant either but idk on this one

steep fog
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faslk;df I love both schools but I really dk which one suits me more 😭

plain wedge
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Also free macbook 👀

late drum
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wait for finaid tho

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dont have to choose until that cmoes out

plain wedge
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Ye do wait for finaid

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I make my decision when all the aid comes

steep fog
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both schools appeal a lot to me, the thing im worried about is that UMich might be considered a target school, but it also requires a lot of networking as well as joining frats/clubs which are going to be hard for someone like me, since I don't have any connections nor am I that partial to joining frats

white berry
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Is your UMich full ride all grants and scholarships or does it include loans and work study?

steep fog
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hmc gives me a small community that branches out to 4 other great schools, and theres not rly a sense of frats and companies that recruit on campus dont exclusively recruit out of frats

steep fog
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also if i am not able to make it into quant, HMC makes it easy for me to go into the regular paths of CS majors or go into grad school for engineering, MBA's, and maybe even law school or med school if i decide for it in undergrad

white berry
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Then go with UMich. I have friends there. There is no pressure to join greek life.

Harvey Mudd also meets demonstrated need but they include work study and loans. Cheaper is better. You will be able to find a community at both. Unless you truly LOVE HMC and couldn’t live four years with out, then go there.

steep fog
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oooh i see i see, thank you

white berry
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You’re overthinking the greek life.

steep fog
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yea its just from what ive seen online, a lot of ib/consulting companies that recruit from ross recruit directly from certain clubs, so im just a bit put off by that

white berry
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To be fair, a lot of schools are like that. Especially at state schools. It’s not uncommon. But that’s also not to say you can’t get recruited if you’re not apart of one.

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It’s just alumni networks. Some clubs have alumni that want to recruit from there. Some recruit from the whole department. Some from the whole school.

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At the end of the day, go with you’re heart and make a financially feasible choice. OOS, I would most definitely choose the UMich full ride! That is HARD to come by.

steep fog
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hahah thank you!! I was rly surprised abt the fin aid they gave me even before the scholarships, but thanks for the input!!

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I'll still have to see about my other schools (though not rly confident once i got rejected from all of WASP) and seeing my financial aid package from HMC

upper trail
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I would go with umich ross because it's more prestigious in the finance world, and also you get a guaranteed full ride (no stressing on whether aid is approved the next year)

steep fog
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umich also only requires fafsa to renew, while hmc requires both fafsa and css (and i have to also submit noncustodial)

upper trail
steep fog
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i got like half in scholarships (i think one of them is merit and one is need based) and i got half in need based grants, and then pell grant

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the only thing left to pay are the indirect expenses, but tuition and room/board are covered

upper trail
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that's pretty good actually, for a state school. I know the UCs even only offer aid to in state

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I would still go with UMich, if they have a good track record for offering aid to all, as they have more financial resources

steep fog
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yep and im OOS too, so im really surprised'

upper trail
steep fog
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yup definitely

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im just really put off about how big umich is as a whole, though i really love the school and im visiting it next week (they are actually flying me out which is super cool 😭 )

upper trail
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that's really generous of them to include a trip lol

steep fog
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the thing is i also really like HMC, when i first found out about it i researched so much, and i loved writing their supplements and i really could see myself there

upper trail
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I was put off applying to HMC because of the stress culture actually, I read their GPAs are so low they have a disclaimer at the bottom explaining why

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though I like the nerdy environment

steep fog
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along with the fact that im really indecisive, i find HMC being a bit better for me in that aspect because they allow me to explroe the different fields in engineering and other parts of STEM, while having a good reputation when it comes to getting into graduate programs (and CMC is right there too if id want to get into econ)

steep fog
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but i already come from a pretty stressful place 😭 the thing is if i want to continue being in a more academically inclined environment or a more socially networked and "fun with others" type environment

upper trail
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it's not all frat parties and such

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but the admission counselor when I visited HMC told me how there was essentially 0 greek life there

steep fog
# upper trail umich also has a ton of nerdy people

thats true!! (i would consider myself a bit of a nerd), but its also very sociable, with a lot of greek life, football, and clubs. its a huge school with a lot of opportunities and a really good urban area

steep fog
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but thank you for ur suggestions!!

latent kraken
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@steep fog if you do CS, harvey mudd is INSANE

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so it depends on your career preference

steep fog
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but do yk how well hmc does in quant roles? i looked on their websites and ik that some companies like jane street hire from hmc, but idk to what extent

latent kraken
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meaning you get a LOT more resources dedicated to you

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and attention

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so it depends on what kind of uni you wanna go

steep fog
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yea thats true, both are complete opposite schools

latent kraken
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me personally would choose HMU

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but it has a pretty dedicated cs culture

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so certainly not easy