#Rice University (2022-2023)
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U seen duke? Releasing on Stanford day?
yeppp it's crazy
Duke Forgot it's place (totally not biased after ED)
Duke L
Amen.
if it was me i lied ig it comes out next week thursday
Bro 😭
Yup!
Rice?
no chance im getting into rice if i couldnt get into bc lol
;;
Every school has a different methodology, don't fret! I got waitlisted from all the LACs I applied to, rejected from Georgetown, Hopkins, and Duke, and ended up accepted at Harvard and Yale.
no email
No, just a notice on when decisions are coming out.
no lmao
everyone got it
at least it aint the 29th lol
Hey, some people really have those kind of questions. Never want them to feel silly about asking if they legit don't know.
Got jumpscared by the email 💀
ITS MONDAY ITS MONDAY ITS MONDAY
i wont be able to get work done monday fuck
i have presentation to board at my schools on tuesday
fuck
i wouldn't be able to get work done monday thru thursday
but now it's just one more school day before decisions
Monday!!
Monday!!!!
nah you got this, if you get in you'll be pumped and and if you don't you can pour your passion into that presentation
its either gonna be the best presentation if i get in, or the worst if i dont lol
indeed
Its the 2nd time it's been the 27th, but the first ever Monday for sure
Rice does seem to jump around a lot tho
They were never the same date or day for the last 3 years
thank GOD it comes out monday 🥺
If only a certain school whose name starts with V and ends with anderbilt would announce a decision date
Virginia?
💀
no he means villanova
bro the fuck do I do about my parents being mad about colleges. You guys sent me into low acceptance rate schools and ivys and then got angry that I didn't get in as an asian male in comp eng like what do you want me to do
it's literally out of my control
i think he means vcu
felt
"How didn't u get into _____ university ?"
(said university has acceptance rate under 10%)
i'm just so exhausted, now they're saying I wasted time and money on ___
i'm just gonna dive into a volcano atp
Nah bless whoevers in the rice admissions office
One of the only schools to give an actual time for decisions
fr
pls rice
bro as a brown person, I can tell u that i've been on a rice diet since I was 38 seconds old
That’s truly demonstrated interest
that is precisely what I meant
already the worst day of the week so it can't get worse right?
.
🍚
🍚
🍚
rice spice
my reaction

I even told rice am applying because of the good rice in their school 🥱 I hope that don't get me rejected
They’ve got to be so tired of rice jokes by now
Rice is my dream school ngl
Probably
rice is my #2 im so nervous for monday
real
alright guess i'm waiting here now 

crying in the inside
: )
jhu, washu (wtf), and nu
northwestern is a bitch
even if they were to accept me, I would have to pay near full tuition 
For who?
I really hope this is NOT indicative of ivy's because it is game over
still got gtech tho
im hoping my L streak ends with rice
Did u get rejected nu
yep
same😭i feel like everyone and their mom did too tho so its fine
no I meant i'm in gtech
so that's good, but also it's v expensive
Ohh 😦
they don't like giving asians any scholarships ova there no cyap
Ey man at least u got gtech
I got Purdue
So idk how ivies r looking
I only applied to 2 so 🧍♂️
i only did 2 asw
but i did like 5 other t15
but wish i did more ivies instead of wasting apps on like umich and cwru when i wouldnt go over state school 😕
all my priblems solved if rice takes me pls
Same
But also their apps were annoying and I can’t write quirky
i lowkey wish i hadn’t applied to some of the places i got in it’s gonna be depressing to say no to them for cost when i didn’t get scholarships
Dis anyone here apply to rice undergrad business?
You got usc bro
You got USC bro
you got usc bro
you got usc bro
guys got a likely
can confirm this is a likely
omg i got one too
Yeah I got the likely too rice '27 🥳🥳🥳
Fr me too
Congrats 🎉
Didn't everyone receive this email?
steven will have a rough time at rice if hes accepted, calling it now
lol
yayy
rice gang
nope only a few got it
Rice gang
rice
ya thats the joke
Rice give me a scholly ❤️
^
the only rice i'm getting is for lunch
real
& leftovers for dinner
is rice generous w merit aid
ik a kid who got a lot last yr but idk if thats super rare or happens decently often
you'd have to be cracked cracked to get merit from rice
In the scheme of T20s, yes. I believe about 15% of admits (or perhaps enrolled students) get merit aid. It's usually just little amounts to help fill out their class with specific profiles/demographics they want I think
But it can be as high as half tuition? Or full, I don't remember
rice 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
rice
ok I am officially manifesting
m
Are you sure of this?
Cause that email doesn't look like a likely letter.
he was being sarcastic
rice 🙏 please let me in
is this today as well 
it’s monday
tyty
got waitlisted at cmu so rice is my last chance 🙏
ive been on a hard rejection streak so im hoping this is where i clutch up
same
ill be honest idk if this is where im feeling it
rejected from BC how do i have a chance at Rice then⁉️
I kind of look at it like this… Every application I did was far from the same. What you write for one isn’t the same for the others. So just because you get rejected from BC has nothing to do with what Rice chooses to do. A lot of the college decision videos the person gets rejected from every ivy but gets into Duke and Stanford. It’s really luck of the draw. And TRUST ME I’m the type of person that likes to control every detail of how my life goes, so this experience was anxiety inducing the whole way through
i jus broke mine lmao
essays r a huge factor atp
every essay i felt bad about was a rejection/wl
every essay i felt good ab lead to a rejection/wl lol
so far the ones i felt good about were generally Ws and one wl
sorry gang
i wrote the most mid essays for my acceptances
A wins a win
indeed
same ... of course my worst essays were the first decisions 😂
i felt really good abt rice
nicee, i’m hoping i follow in your footsteps soon
i didnt tbh they gv me a waiver on the app deadline and gave me a few days to submit so like I didn't take much time on it
although I think I researched well and my interview went great so... maybe
it was just william & mary and Wisconsin mad (which im happy bout for cs + got scholarship so same price as in state) still took the NU L tho
at least you broke your streak
u get numb to the pain at some point
these next decisions gonna hurt i think
ye this the biggest week
im on two rejections in a row rn but i didnt really care abt the schools
ye I mean I got some good options so aint rly trippin
nice
but like these next ones r some of my dream schools yk
for me probably purdue cs
but its like 3rd out of my options
or uf overall ranking i think
ooo nice
yea but im oos
yea idk
I was on 7 before today
usc dub
I like to call it "comfortably numb."
yes omg
thats real af
goes to show this whole process is clearly not standardized ig
everything is an independent event fr
someone at cornell got deferred ed and got a likely rd
what even lmfao
but i think he had special circumstances
I didn't apply cornell
i did 
brown cornell colombia ed for me
i was gonna do 6 ivies but i did the last 2 for the WHEEL
lmao W nonetheless
real
I have Berkeley that day along w penn
i didnt apply to any uc’s
i only did stanford & pomona in cali
LOL
yeah i heard UCs were a bloodbath this year
uci ucsd ucr n ucsb came in clutch
ucb i dont care about
n ucla broke my heart ❤️
lol
r u in state
@sleek valve hey did u get in btq
damn i didnt get one-- i think ima expect rejection LOL
i think ive heard of people getting in without interviews so no worry
you had to sign up before a certain date
ik
wait im stupid… i applied to 1 uc
which one
uc hicago
ok
took an L
same!
didnt do USC
Got rejected UNC and accepted william and mary and U Wisc Mad
W
yesterday
screw them give us rice
so shot 50% yesterday 
I applied too late 😭
i have at least 1 decision every day this upcoming week and its terrifying
bro how
oh
i got monday then nun till ivy day
I've got rice on monday and then berk penn on ivy day followed by duke umich (?)
rice monday, vandy is prob tuesday, emory wednesday, ivy day thursday, duke friday, georgetown saturday
whole week of excitement
holy GOODLUCK
and anxiety
ty!!
dont let NU get to u u got the better illinois school anyway
my nu app was mid
vandy tuesday?
i like NU more but my uchicago app was way betterrr
its not confirmed but its the most likely date
oh shit
last year?
and emory has historically been wednesdays
so me its monday rice
tuesday vandy nyu
wednesday emory + emorys oxford
thursday ivy day + berkeley
duke friday, stanford friday
georgetown saturday
Holy shi 
yall hv fun ong
we’re almost the same wtf lol
im recording them for myself
but not gonna make a vid or anything
i shouldve recorded uchicago but i didnt 😭😭😭
i recorded colombia then gv up after umd rejection
ill make a vid if i get sumn like crazy
but like minimal reactions
been doing day recaps tho
i like
stopped after georgtetown deferred me
cuz i get all sad
n its depressing
LOL
god i cant believe we’ve almost made it to ivy day. i remember when it was 100 days away
ill record this week i think
i wanna show ppl some shi cuz my circumstances r hella diff
stats wise im far from perfect fr
fr!!!
im manifesting multiple ivies
for myself
idc
i jus read it and close everything
no one can tell me no
SAME
i literally want one. just one. i dont even care which (not princeton or upenn tho pls)
"we regret to..." shutdown
will cahnt "fuck xyz" loudly
now the home stretch
fr
cmu waitlisted me this morning? "FUCK CMU FUCK CMU" n its therapeutic 🥲
lmao real af
whats ur major
cognitive science or neuroscience depending
every time i tell my mom i get rejected she says the exact same thing
“theyre sons of bitches. stupid sons of bitches”
mainly cog sci
thats cool af
😭
mom real af
bro my moms saying the universe is having them reject me so i def consider better options like ivies or uci
i agree
better is destined for me
mine jus say well onto next we got some good schools anyway
SAME
i feel it tho like
atp im not in a bad spot
def hur more wen i was on my 4th or 5th rejection with 0 schools
had me thinking i wasnt going to college
i mean same but my first acceptance was vt
my mom embarassed me so bad on my vandy tour tho. she told the tour guide that i had “so many great options” and proceeded to talk about my acceptances
which came in feb
😭
y would she do that
“im so unbelievably proud” she said when i asked her
if u get rejected u kno who to blame ong /j
thats fair
so at least its from a place of good will
isnt vandy monday? Im pretty sure it is
i feel like they wouldve announced it already if it was monday
It’s historically mondays and they only announce the day before
They like to not announce ahead of time
they waitlist like a ton of people right
R y’all talking about when Rice comes out?
vandy
Ohh
yeah
Im pretty sure it would be Monday as im the most familiar with their practices
they had an email sent out saying itll be monday
all we can do now is wait and see i suppose
I got waitlisted at Bc
But I got into usc tufts Colby and more
It literally doesn’t matter
yeah ive seen first hand colleges are independent of one another
waitlisted tulane, accepted uchicago 💀
damn my threads are going down fast
like a month ago i had hella
but i leave after rejection/no longer considering
+1
Please rice
i got 2 threads left lmao
vandy is tuestday???
i feel that
likely but not guaranteed, ive heard tuesday thrown around a lot
Does anyone know what time on Monday?
its in the email g
6 est
I deleted the email ✌️ thanks tho
y u del the email 💀
rice rice rice rice
ooh i love you rice im eating rice rn so let me in
i see you guys in this rice server all the time💀💀
we live here now
NU refugees

so true☹️
idk
apparently
some mf from my moms bunco group said that i shouldnt go to rice because “houston is bad”
i hate that all the suburban moms are trying to convince my mom to send me to state school
and none of these people will even leave their sheltered neighborhoods
rice gotta clutch up
tell em to fuck up and do whats best for u !!!
🙏
Rice pleasae accept me
I will not pay full price
Rice is the only reach school left
I know I won’t get in since I got rejected from all my other reach schools and even some target ones
I didn’t even get waitlisted at BU
@sand lark it’s rice or cc for me too
Why not x
I shall, they’re so fucking annoying. 99% chance i go to school in a city where they would clutch their purses just thinking about it just bc of my options atm
lmfao real
wut ur options
realistically, gatech or washu because everything else is too damn expensive💀
also i only have reach schools left but they’re all in cities too lol
damn bro. that sucks im sorry
how many you got left?
9 for me man 
11
gotta keep hope man. you'll get into 1 of them trusttt. i have 7 schools left and have been waitlisted 6 times
riiiceeeee
Riceeee
rice woooo
Riceeee
I got 12 💀💀💀
rice is going to pull through so it doesn’t matter ☺️
rice rice rice rice rice rice rice
MI GENTE
Rice fr gotta pull through and break our streaks
fr
fr im just nervous cause my last (and currently only) option is my state school
nope not for me cause i wrote that i like columbia
ummm maybe they think you were referring to the country and spelled it wrong 😃
what the hell is wrong w my teacher, she assigned three things on canvas the day rice results come out😡😡😡
school is so annoying, how are you guys dealing with it💀
Im not
Senioritis is destroying me
Blud u go to cc and every day u abt to eat rice only
Felt
rice rice rice rice
rice pls
rice pls
rice pls
rice is nice but im getting denied definitely
😩😩😩
rice rice rice rice
💀
manifesting a rejection for myself in the same vein
nw is good the only issue is the weather
rice is the best bc good academics, good aid, good weather
i would much rather go to rice
Lmfao bye ☠️
rice rice rice rice
🍚
rice rice rice rice
rice rice rice rice
I want to get into rice
if it ain’t rice it ain’t nice 
don’t go to rice
hater
i have to get accepted first 😈
Rice let me innn
i’m wasted at 9:30 on a saturday night trying to text a girl who don’t want me
it’s not all that glorious
imagine putting this in the rice box 💀
apparently they get a lot of ppl who just submit pics of rice
AOs said
laziness
this could be any school
little does he know i am going to do this at whatever school i go to anyway
based
You think that’s a turn off for Rice AOs?
I goofed my rice box I just sent them one of my photography pieces
Honestly anything you send for your Rice Box that isn’t Rice or anything horrible should be fine
That takes effort
i think they just said they were sick of it
bet they weren’t sick of people telling them why they want to attend columbias diverse community
I sent debate flows
WMRU pls admit me
Rice pls
Every time I open this thread
oh my fucking god I just realized I forgot to upload my rice box
it's always people either begging rice or posting 🍚 emojis
same
🍚

Apparently it doesn’t matter for evaluation but that’s like demonstrated disinterest 💀
Rice please have me
I’ll be in debited for life
I will do everything for you
Please let me in
Why does the WMRU thread have the most beggars?
Growing number of Indonesians can no longer afford to buy rice, nation's basic food; price has skyrocketed as poor harvests, devalued currency and badly frayed distribution system combined to create dire shortage; experts are warning that rice is biggest threat to stability as nation struggles to regain political and economic footing; food riots...
give me rice
ikr
if i get in and commit to rice i’m only eating rice for this summer
True
ok slime
give me blessings
ok slime
Bro I’m not functioning on Monday
rice rice rice rice
Rice's campus?
Oh alr
Hypothetically speaking, would y'all go rice or gatech for CS (cost being the same)?
If you get into rice what will be your major?
Rice would likely be cheaper
As an oos
Business
Rice
Chemistry
Cs
Data Science
Am also doing cs
Cool
Just data science?
Well I want a pathway in Business and Financing
Okay
You could do a double major in business and data science if you chooy
For now, I want to be a data analyst for a finance company. Something like that
Or maybe even a social media company
Same cost. 50k each
Any specific reasons? I mean, I can't visit any so I wouldn't know... Just looking for opinions :)
My cheapest at the moment is 30k w my 9k efc 😢
Okay
That's a good plan
Rice is tier 1
business
??
Ik Rice is an overall T20 and GT isn't
But for CS major ranking, GT is T5 and Rice is 27.... Would the rice brand name supersede?
For cs gt is very much more worth it ig but that doesn’t mean rice is bad keep in mind it’s a much smaller thing if ur instate for gt I’d say gt but rice being full need iirc is likely cheaper for most unless intl or full pay
U just need to know what u value
Cant go wrong with either
Well in this case I’d got with gt if ur absolutely committed to cs
Got it. thanks!
In finance we call it stern syndrome (as in nyu stern) aka thinking you’re at an Ivy because of your business school ranking without reflecting on the fact that most t20s don’t have an undergrad business school. At ross or stern, you’re competing with a group of ~700 kids for maybe 30 places.
Kind of the same principle but probably fewer majors at rice for cs as compared to gt in which you'll be competing with more cs kids + I bet the quality remains somewhat the same. Not trying to say one is better than the other but just some fresh perspective : D
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks!
Ye gt benefits a lot from being in atl which has a lot of tech opportunities
Houston not so much but def still will get u in
Austin has already
Bme/bioE
RICE LET ME IN PLEASE
🤞🏽

Rice reject me pls
So I guess this would be the same w USC Marshall? Would it be better to take an Ivy over Marshall even though USC has a dedicated business school?
yeah reject this fella and let me in instead
nah gang
If cost is same, I would personally go with an ivy
You can just withdraw your application you know
If you sent in applicant updates, and it doesn't show up as registered in your portal (even though admissions email said that they added it), was it not reviewed
I sent in a huge update in february, but the only update that shows up is my march update in my portal and i'm kinda scared lol
I don't think the portal is too important. I sent applicants update to some schools but none reflected in my portal.
I think if you sent an optional material it won't reflect in your portal but will be added to your file and reviewed.
ty ily
I don't get this
(Tiananmen yaks in lovely yemen)
Am sorry 😔 but I still don't get
im on a 8 reject wl streak rd 😭 rice take me + 2 bs/md rejections
where did all my ea luck go
Rice please
Rice pretty pls
rice rice rice rice
🥺rice
Rice!!!
i'm a she
I'm a male. I'm a man. I'm a 'he.' I don't get into that 'mentally ill stuff
rice rice rice rice
Hi pazzy
😒
I swear this thread is literally just people manifesting rice
if looks could kill
I want rice 🍚
rice rice rice rice
this is the most cult-like thread and i love it
🎑
🍙
Rice
Cơm
Rice
Cơm
What's CDM
Rice
I ATE RICE FOR LUNCH LET ME INN
Rice
i just ate rice
Unfortunately manifesting won't change a thing.
Decision have already been made 😔
wait I just realized decisions are tmrw
rice rice rice rice
rice rice rice rice
Tf is happening here
Short grain rice
sushi rice
i love sushi rice
Rice cult
RICE LET ME IN TOMORROW🙏🥹🥹🙏
rice rice rice rice
This is making me hungry
rice rice rice rice
Nah I feel that’s Columbia with the anthem lyric spamming 24/7
Also saffron rice
RICE
rice
kimchi #1 side, japchae #2 side, that egg potato thingy #3 side,
Hi rice people
Rice is the fruit of the earth, you can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, sauté it, there’s umm rice kebabs, rice creole, rice gumbo, pan fry, deep fried, stir fry, there’s pineapple rice, lemon rice, coconut rice, rice soup, rice stew, rice salad, rice and potatoes, rice burger, rice sandwich… yeah that’s about it
If you get this reference you’re a g
Less than 24 hours til we become rice
if I rejected, just bury me in a rice field, so I can become fertilizer of the earth
ima get into rice regardless
This is making me hungry
1416 minutes to go
💀 nah bro dont do this to yourself
Lmao I'm joking, I'm seriously checking out until tomorrow at 5ish or else I would go insane
rice rice rice rice
Rice rice rice rice rice
Rice rice rice rice rice rice
rice rice rice rice
The picture thingy that was part of our app was better than my essays 
Lmao I mean I spedran my essays for JHU the day they were due so u never know just saying and have faith in urself 👍
Y’all this Japanese supermarket just opened up near me and I got onigiri and the rice was on point it’s a sign 👏
Is there a such thing as rice astrology like not portal astrology just rice
Demonstrated disinterest because there’s PENN bottle opener in it
rice rice rice rice
🍙
i did the same
and also in JHU
😭 😭 😭
what is it with JHU and essays written in an hour
i did this for rice 
Rice rice rice
Yes if u ate golden rice it means ur application to Rice was golden and that ur in
If u ate brown rice it means ur app was shit and u got rejected
If u got white rice it means ur basic and got waitlisted
If u ate sticky rice it means u got a likely 😩
rice rice rice rice
did u not apply to that many shcools
Rice rice rice RICE
Rice
no i did
it’s a exaggeration i just want to go to rice it’s my top
RICE FANS!
rice rice rice rice
Prayge
I love rice 😩😩😩😩
life, laugh, rice 🍚
Who’s ready for Rice tomorrow?
may or may not have did that on purpose but still funny LOL
Immediate rice rejection
I did get the rice head of chemistry’s number tho at the acs conference
But I’m getting rejected
She told me to text her whether I got accepted, and even to still contact her if I got rejected
Yeah it’s my 4th acs conference
Oh wow
San Diego, Indianapolis, local Oklahoma, and Baton Rouge
im assuming theyre asking for their case
instate ucla
but if youre loaded
just visit each scohol
and see which you like better
^^
i can visit 2 schools MAX
so jus waiting to see where i get
sometimes
Let’s gooo
real
UCLA is a slightly better program, and both schools have excellent student life. You'll have to see if you like the big party/sports feel of UCLA or smaller feel of rice
yea the size is the biggest difference
but I also got this
LA and houston are very similar. Big, hot, sprawly
theres also like texas v cali but yk
true
tru (never been outside east coast america wise)
real
Wowow
Were you accepted to penn?
what is this
im guessing it was a conference
yea ed
ik i jus remember they mentioned they were at some conferences
Met faculty at the ACS conference and got their business cards, they said they liked my research presentation and wanted me to take it to keep in touch and update them with my decisions
o cool
Uhh probably 5 or 6pm est??
Don’t worry I wrote that I want to attend Columbia twice in my rice essay because I was tired and forgot I was writing a rice essay and not Columbia
wen is ivy day
no way
😭 😭
I’m an auto reject
nah watch you get in
I got rejected from 4 schools in a row bruh
they can't deny the mind boggling chem research
Which ones?@meager trout
gotta take u away from columbia
same im in a 7 reject/wl streak
Reject MIT, Northwestern, USC, and WashU
idk what cahnged from ea to rd
Waitlist Case and JHU
ea i was like popping off acceptances defers maybe
Ouch sorry
Accepted two safeties and Grinnell
Yeah I have 11 schools left bht I know I’m screwed
i'd say get in to Rice first, but if you do get in then i suggest you visit both campuses
Mr. AP79 refers to me as the molecule publisher LOL
@meager trout you published research?
@fierce cove me too
whats even better than hopkins BME though
except like MIT
would u go to smth else?
Got rejected
interesting name
Ah I guessed correctly
3pm pst 😭
i didnt show any interst
i didnt even know they cared
its minimal right?
all i did was an interview, but it wasnt even alumin, it was with a rice senior in like november not post application
They don't, right?
its on the CDS
shoulda toured or smth im only a couple hrs away welp
yep
r u from texas
yeah
Virginia 🫡
but its a tiny benefit im p sure
6pm est tomorrow
based on the hundreds ive seen rejected 💀
💀
I think it’s because higher percentage of Texans apply
oh wait actually 30% of the student body is from texas
oh but thats like enrolled
not admitted
makes sense that the tx kids end up picking rice over oos ones
yeah but location
at least ik a lot of people whod go rice over similarly ranked schools to stay near fam and stuff
cuz atp they are all good schools 💀
Yeah 😭
That’s why I’m here rn for the conference, working to share my research through talks
Yeah it was an extremely tedious process
Frick I got my first wet lab internship after junior year lmao
@meager trout did you sign up on your own?
Or like, are you part of a lab
Our school has a lab, I’m the only one that worked in it and was lucky to find success in only 6 weeks which I am thankful for
I also do an internship at my local university where we used radioactive fluorine to find a cure for pancreatic cancer and traumatic brain injury, it’s in FDA human trials rn
That must've taken a lot of emailing to get lol
Actually got it after 5-6 cold emails with my resume; we learn how to make resumes in school as a required course so I just sent that
I actually landed two positions, but I preferred this one better since I vibed with him more and he said he wanted to publish stuff with me
I do cold emailing as my side job though running a creative media agency, so I’ve gone through various templates and have learned a lot through rejection
Hello rice
Ricey
Rice
Bro got into hopkins tho, I literally can’t get in anywhere bruh
Haha I didn't do any of that. Got rlly lucky
Trying to publish my current research though cause I think it's interesting
i wish my school had more resources
Like I can’t sleep at night
rice rice rice rice
I’m getting denied tomorrow
Rice rice rice
Rice Rice Rice Rice 🍚
No chance, read above
^
what sorta hs u go to damn
all the research ive done is through my own efforts our school doesnt know anything
when im rich, im just gonna move to bronx or smth man and send my kids to feeder central so they dont have to sit on a2c like me and instead can just get set up for success 😦
It’s a T20 in the nation, in a small state, we are it’s own state agency, public boarding magnet school
When bot command gives you 99 percent chance of getting into Rice🥹🙏🫡
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wouldn’t they want to get from other states to diversify their classes tho?
