#Williams College (2022-2023)

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vivid junco
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so its a pain

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gocha

carmine anvil
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Yeah

vivid junco
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do they give merch at previews

carmine anvil
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they give a williams shirt

vivid junco
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oh i think i saw that in the preview form

carmine anvil
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But also easier to just buy merch around Williams campus rather than getting it shipped

vivid junco
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gotcha

olive elk
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wait does it come for international students

olive elk
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hey can you dm it to me!

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that's like half of the admitted student body 😭

mint otter
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could u dm me the groupme link too?

tiny spade
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lol do internationals/Canada get the package

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would like a cow shirt

dim arrow
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Yep yep go for it!!

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During previews i believe they will come and pick u up from albany airport, atleast thats that they did for me

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You can view it yeah, the weird thing is tho that the information that people have on theirs changes from person to person

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Like one of my friends had acronyms on hers describing her and another had nothing

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For me and other transfer students they send out a note saying why we got in

olive elk
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I am extremely interested in that, the only issue I had was like missing an year of your stay at williams? is it difficult like integrating into a new college environment and stuff?

dim arrow
dim arrow
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Also feel free to dm if you have any specific questions regarding the WEPO program, my one thing I will mention is that you shouldnt come to williams just for the program however. This year was super competitive and i know someone who was super disspointed about no gettinf it because it was a major reason for them to go to williams in the first place

vivid junco
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hey do any of you know current williams students that are from alaska

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and if so is it possible for one of you to connect me?

teal light
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If it makes anyone on the waitlist feel better I can’t go bc of cost so hopefully you will get my spot 💪

delicate voidBOT
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twolf asks: which?

1⃣: reed
2⃣: grinnell

teal light
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Rejecting Williams bc of cost squad

lapis bear
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exactly

teal light
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Colleges be like you’re rejected

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No

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YOURE rejected by me

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😇

lapis bear
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I’m going to try and appeal the financial aid but it probably still won’t be enough

teal light
lapis bear
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deluding myself

dusty pollen
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yesterday around this time my heart was in pieces </33

proven grotto
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i don’t think so at all, it’s all about what you want out of your college experience

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they feed you, house you, and i’m fine with being on campus most of the time

carmine anvil
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yeah I agree with you on that

proven grotto
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i think spring street is charming kinda norman rockwell vibe

carmine anvil
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I just don't think spring street or transportation is a strength

vivid junco
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yeah my dads worried about that

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he said the programs at Williams sound intriguing but the town is so small and it’s hard to get to

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especially since I’m from Alaska lol

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i also have hopkins so I’m trying to consider that

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@carmine anvil do you know anyone at Williams from Alaska ?

carmine anvil
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I do but I don't know them well

vivid junco
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what would be the best way for me to connect?

carmine anvil
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Sorry I have no idea of their contact

carmine anvil
vivid junco
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im full pay

carmine anvil
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Nvm

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😭

vivid junco
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but it just takes a while to get there

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is the point

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mainly

carmine anvil
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That's fair

vivid junco
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like i have to go on a ton of flights then drive 😭

carmine anvil
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For breaks Williams has motorcoach buses to Boston, New York or Albany and then you would have to fly from there probably

lapis bear
dusty pollen
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thank you! blobheart

lapis bear
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is that an elliott smith reference in bio

dusty pollen
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and congrats on williams!

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yep

lapis bear
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tysm!!

dusty pollen
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my dad

lapis bear
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love that album so much

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more than either/or tbh

dusty pollen
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anthony fantanocore

lapis bear
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is amherst your top choice for now

dusty pollen
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yep

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has to be because it's the only acceptance i have 😭

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it's not like have options

lapis bear
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W option to have though

dusty pollen
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that's true

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declining my waitlists

lapis bear
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i have my state schools+williams

dusty pollen
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lucky you have a great state school

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gatech right?

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im international so the only colleges ive applied to are t20s

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amherst will likely be my only acceptance

lapis bear
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yes!! oh extra congrats then!! intl admissions are rough

dusty pollen
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yeah 😭 got rejected from all but one of the WASP lacs

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outright rejected from the other 3

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crazy

lapis bear
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what do you want to study?

dusty pollen
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econ

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and physics

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maybe

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hbu

lapis bear
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cool=) environmental studies/environmental engineering for me

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depending on the school

dusty pollen
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slayy

lapis bear
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i'm not super sure yet, need to figure out if engineering is right for me

dusty pollen
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yeah im not rlly sure either

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so i get that

lapis bear
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i think the ideal job for me right now would be like. climate research or something

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but not in academia since that's so cutthroat

dusty pollen
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that's really cool

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ooo im super into academia

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as of now

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might be different four years down the road

lapis bear
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i'm not built for it😭

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a2c is the future of academics lowkey

dusty pollen
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ahaha understandable

dusty pollen
lapis bear
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some random kids saying "rate my AP schedule" on reddit will lead the exploration of knowledge

dusty pollen
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lmaoo 😭

olive elk
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do you people know if williams flies you in for previews cause I heard that somewhere-

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😭 by that I mean if williams pays for it

waxen frost
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have any accepted kids gotten their package yet

olive elk
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nope I think some have recieved them

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I am also intl so idk if they even send it

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for us

wicked quiver
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Waitlisted

vivid junco
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mines coming on Tuesday

lapis bear
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mine is expected monday

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i’m very excited for the merch🙏🏼

finite oxide
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How can I find out when my package arrives

lapis bear
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if you have USPS informed delivery it will show you!

raw monolith
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mine is also expected monday ahhh

vivid junco
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do you guys know if math/cs/econ/stats students tend to feel limited by course offerings?

lapis bear
lapis bear
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so is there a discord or instagram chat yet because i don’t have groupme😜and have no storage on my phone😜

vivid junco
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thats what im sayin

dim arrow
dim arrow
lapis bear
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if anyone has pictures of their admitted student merch i will kiss the ground you walk on

vivid junco
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Lol

waxen frost
olive elk
waxen frost
olive elk
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Fair enough

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Just made a rudimentary server, dm for link

vivid junco
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omg my package is coming today!!

raw monolith
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SAME SO EXCITED

lapis bear
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mine says today but it didn’t come with regular mail ?

raw monolith
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these socks r perf for school tmrw actually

vivid junco
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SEND PICTURES @raw monolith

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what’s in the package

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socks and beanie?

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omg I need to see

raw monolith
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yes socks and beanie !

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and a lil like

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thingy

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gimme a sec

lapis bear
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AWW

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that pennant looks rlly tiny LOL

raw monolith
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it is LMFAO

lapis bear
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mine still not here

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there’s no acceptance letter?

vivid junco
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So the blanket WAS a myth

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smh

dim arrow
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They give transfer students a personalized letter saying why they got in debbyryan

lapis bear
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my parents don’t understand liberal arts colleges

dim arrow
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but yes no blanket fr

lapis bear
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my dad just told me i won’t get a job if i go to williams because it’s an extended summer camp…

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he’d never heard of it before friday when i told him i got in

dim arrow
vivid junco
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all my classmates when I told them I was considering Williams over hopkins

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“What’s Williams”

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“I can’t believe you would give up both hopkins and umich”

lapis bear
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if my parents were gonna force me to go to my state school they shouldve told me freshman year so i didn’t sweat so hard😭

vivid junco
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@raw monolith ur lighting makes it look weird

lapis bear
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bro lives in alaska and got his before me

vivid junco
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LMFAO

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@lapis bear wya

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I’m surprised it came today

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it was originally indicating for tomorrow delivery

raw monolith
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mb ..

crystal crater
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LMAOO i got the same “why would you choose williams over ucla” talks today

crystal crater
# raw monolith

i heard the beanie looks like an M pls confirm or deny 🤞

tribal oxide
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Got my package today😭🫶🏾

crystal crater
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LMAOO kidding my dad said the williams beanie looks like an M not a W

crystal crater
lapis bear
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i live in georgia

vivid junco
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Wait guys is the beanie not huge? 😭

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it’s so big

waxen frost
olive elk
carmine anvil
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oh nice!

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It looks to be the same as last year's package

carmine anvil
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extended summer camp is funny

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If any of you are going to previews I could probably show you around campus with my friend (if I'm not too busy)

vivid junco
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@carmine anvil i might take you up on that

tribal oxide
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Same here

crystal crater
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got my acceptance package today 🥳

radiant cedar
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I didn’t apply but how are y’all feeling about Williams T7? https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/

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vivid junco
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All arbitrary

dusty pollen
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malding and seething

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wish williams had a grad school

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i'll come back as a professor :((

compact ocean
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is anyone familiar with the maths program at Williams? how does it compare to other top universities like MIT or Princeton?

dim arrow
compact ocean
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very helpful

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what do you think about the postgraduate/job opportunities coming out of Williams as an international student, compared to these other big-name top universities? is it a dealbreaker?

lapis bear
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my package got lost in the mail hello

dim arrow
# compact ocean what do you think about the postgraduate/job opportunities coming out of William...

Its absolutely not a dealbreaker from what ive seen. Everyone in my immediate friend group at williams whos graduating got into a top graduate program (mostly Stanford) or is going to a pretty good entry job if they wanted to go into industry right away. This includes my international friends. I will say however that most of my international friends after their 4 years dont want to stay in the US for work due to the working culture

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Not because they get less opportunuties to do so however

vivid junco
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All my teachers act like Williams is nothing when I ask for their thoughts ):

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I feel like I lean towards williams but I feel so conflicted between it and hopkins

olive elk
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what's your major"?

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I would choose williams anyday, the people who are important and worth it like recruiters and grad schools know williams

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and thats what matters

vivid junco
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math or more specifically applied math

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applied math is housed in the engineering school at hopkins

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while I’d be getting a BA at Williams

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I definitely like the atmosphere and types of opportunities at Williams better

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but I like the size of hopkins better and also the range of courses in my major

olive elk
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The size is something you can't change about Williams and is a huge part of the expirience, so I would be a little careful if you prefer larger sized unis

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For math though, I feel Williams is the best choice because it has one of the best math programs in the country. It hosts SMALL which is a math conference and the math education and opportunities are really good

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I am not too sure about the engineering aspect of Hopkins, but both are great schools and you cant go wrong

vivid junco
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i just prefer something thats like

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4-10k

carmine anvil
carmine anvil
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Williams math catalog is good for its size, but of course you can't really beat a large school in course selection

carmine anvil
carmine anvil
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You should contact the financial aid to renegotiate your aid, once you contact them they have you fill out a form ircc

vivid junco
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4-10 k student pop

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but i dont get any aid

carmine anvil
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Ohh right

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Sorry I remember you saying this

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Yeah both schools are quite expensive sticker price 😭

vivid junco
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Williams is a bit cheaper

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but that’s just off the website coa and not a personalized breakdown

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hopkins is 87k bruhh

carmine anvil
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Huh how did they make it 87k 😭

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Williams at 81k is already so expensive

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Honestly I enjoy Williams but I don't know if any school is 80k per year good, state school is definitely valid option

vivid junco
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lmfao

carmine anvil
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😭

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Wow

vivid junco
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there aren't any great schools in alaska

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at least state schools

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i mean theres university of alaska fairbanks but its literally in the middle of no where and gets to like -40 F

carmine anvil
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OH 😭

vivid junco
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before i got into these two i was just planning on going umich

carmine anvil
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-40F cursedmoon

vivid junco
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72k 😭

carmine anvil
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Umich is 72k??

vivid junco
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oos yes

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so i am v happy to pay like 9k more to attend williams

carmine anvil
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yeah I agree with that lol

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@vivid junco do you still need help finding the contact of someone from Alaska at Williams?

vivid junco
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yeah

carmine anvil
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I can DM you their email

vivid junco
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that would be great

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well if you would think they would be open to that

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lol

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i think im like 80% commited to williams

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now if i got brown plme in some other world

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im not sure but

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chances of that are near 0

carmine anvil
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are you premed?

vivid junco
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Applied math

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but potentially interested in med school

grizzled lance
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if you had to choose

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between williams and ucla

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which one would you choose

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(for political science)

waxen frost
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i feel like

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both r probably similarly good for the field

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but they’re so different as colleges

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i’d choose based on fit

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like which school u think matches u better

grizzled lance
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i see

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my fit would def be williams

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but i live in cali so it's gonna be a huge decision if i move

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most of the graduate schools that know abt williams are on the east soooo

waxen frost
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is the price for williams similar to in state ucla for u?

grizzled lance
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williams is a little bit cheaper actually, but i'd imagine that flight costs will rack up

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my parents have a steady income tho so i should be able to afford both

waxen frost
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i feel like if yk u want to go to graduate school

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williams is the way to go

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it’s just so good for feeding into grad school

grizzled lance
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a lot of people on the east coast have told me that

waxen frost
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  • i think generally polisci is more of a east coast thing tbh
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i’m from the west coast and i still think williams tbh

grizzled lance
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as a person that hadn't even heard of williams until last year i wanna be careful before i make a huge decision to move yk; especially since i'm considering law school

grizzled lance
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there aren't a lot of people on the west coast that know about williams

waxen frost
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i think williams is better

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ucla is such a giant public i think it’d be difficult to get opportunities

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ik a girl who turned down stanford for williams even

grizzled lance
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bruh 😭 😭

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that's the thing

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like ill go on reddit

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and ill see people turning down cornell dartmouth and a bunch of other ivies for williams

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and then i feel hella dumb bc i still can't make up my mind

waxen frost
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idk

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i think grad schools on west coast will still know abt williams

grizzled lance
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maybe

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imma prob ask more people

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bc i've heard a lot of positive things about the school but they've mostly been from people on the east

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ty for your help

waxen frost
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ofc!

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gl w ur choice

little ether
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I got into Williams but I withdrew bruh

grizzled lance
grizzled lance
little ether
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Idk man they just sent me this

waxen frost
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omg my package came today too

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it was so cute

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oh shit

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LOL

grizzled lance
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same haha

waxen frost
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that’s kinda funny

little ether
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They socks ugly as hell bro ngl

grizzled lance
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right???

waxen frost
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they’re cute in an ugly way

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ykwim

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like for an ugly sock day

little ether
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Their normal merch lowk fire tho

grizzled lance
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lmfao

waxen frost
# little ether

their graphic design majors must be crying at that card tbh

little ether
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Tbf it’s hard to make a good sock with yellow and purple

waxen frost
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i guess they cld just do a solid purple w a yellow band or smthn

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but it’s just a very bold set of colors

olive elk
grizzled lance
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but everything else still racks up to about $23K

olive elk
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Right

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Though even if it isnt mentioned on your document, I think they cover travel, books and insurance costs for EVERYONE getting aid. Not completely sure though

grizzled lance
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I have travel expenses listed as indirect costs, which are not covered by financial aid

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either ways, money is expungable so aid is aid yk

vivid junco
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OK GUYS

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whats your favorite merch

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from williams

crystal crater
vivid junco
crystal crater
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The amount of “why aren’t u going to ucla” i got

crystal crater
crystal crater
vivid junco
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^

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some of my dad's doctor friends spoke v highly of williams

crystal crater
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my dad is obsessed with williams cause he’s from the east coast

vivid junco
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at least williams kids are far less pretentious than those at ivy leagues

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lol

crystal crater
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the ones i’ve met have been super nice and they’re always like “i go to this small school you’ve probably never heard of :))” and it’s williams

vivid junco
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I was telling one of my teachers that I like Williams over hopkins

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and he kinda gave me a look

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but it’s okay

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i will make it known at my hs

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be the change you want to see in the world !

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Bruh but my dad was comparing the average sat of Williams to hopkins

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and the % of students in the top 10% of their hs class

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and he’s like

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are the hopkins kids better than Williams

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😭

vivid junco
crystal crater
crystal crater
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it’s also only undergrad.. you’ll never have the chance to go again

vivid junco
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may not have the chance to attend hopkins again 😭

crystal crater
unkempt rover
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Do y’all know what the social scene is like at Williams

vivid junco
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Sounds pretty good to me

dim arrow
# vivid junco are the hopkins kids better than Williams

Hopkins has 99% for top ten percent, i think both princeton and williams are around 95-93% on there thing. I think its more that williams is more established (cause its older) so it has less to prove while hopkins wants to boost its numbers to maintain its t10 position.

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Hopkins priority is more about raw numbers and clearly shooting for high scores. I think williams is lookign more holistically but like to be honest the difference is so marginal 💀

vivid junco
dim arrow
vivid junco
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The version of my PS that I submitted to Williams was so bad

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😭

dim arrow
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Oop not this

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😵‍💫

vivid junco
dim arrow
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it wss a whole thing about like school priorities and stuff but honestly this is so semantic it dont matter 😭

vivid junco
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o

tribal oxide
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Excited for preview day literally making my packing list

crystal crater
tribal oxide
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Can’t wait to meet you guysss we should meet up at some spot discord live🤭🙌🏾

vivid junco
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who’s going to the thing at 8 eastern

tribal oxide
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I think I’ll join in

unkempt rover
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me too

vivid junco
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Do we have to register for the Williams event

tribal oxide
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Which one the zoom or preview?

vivid junco
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Zoom

tribal oxide
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Na you just clink the link in ur acceptance letter

vivid junco
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yea i got it thank u

tribal oxide
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No my bad my internet went out so it took a while to respond

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NP*

grizzled lance
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I’ll see ya guys on campus if I end up attending lmao

vivid junco
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If anyone here has not gotten the Williams ‘27 discord yet you can dm and I’ll send an invite

proven grotto
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i was an ED admit so i just kind of was quiet on a2c

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and now all of the sudden a good amount of the RD admits are a2c people

vivid junco
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LMAO

tiny spade
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how is the food

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and how does the isolation factor into like the social scene

proven grotto
# vivid junco is that not typical

not at least in the ED group but i didn’t expect the crossover at all, i know a2c is huge but it was a surprise that there were members at the small liberal arts college i’m going to

proven grotto
# tiny spade how is the food

for food/isolation, i recommend watching videos from current students. search up GenuinelyGwyn for an honest review of food and student life

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on Youtube

vivid junco
proven grotto
dim arrow
vivid junco
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That’s so cool

dim arrow
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Gwyns rlly nice fr fr, also rlly smart. Id die for andrew fr fr peepoblush

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Just to emphasize how tight knit everyone is here lmfao

vivid junco
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i never understood why she starts her videos not facing the camera 😭

carmine anvil
carmine anvil
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The isolation itself can be tough depending on the person. I think first semester was a lot more tiring than I realized at the time.

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Did you guys get to choose ephventures/Woolf trips yet?!

tiny spade
vivid junco
proven grotto
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both of them are great

olive elk
vivid junco
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@carmine anvil @dim arrow any suggestions for traveling to previews alone?

dim arrow
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For the trip youll have a student mentor so theyll find you accomodations and how to get around but for the most part theyll have events for all the preview people to go to

vivid junco
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since Williams isn’t paying for my ticket (I think) not sure if those things would be provided

dim arrow
vivid junco
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even if not on financial aid?

dim arrow
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actually i dont think they fly out students who are not on financnial aid but email your dean (as shown in your admissions letter) and ask whether its possibke for your ticket to be paid for

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and also email about a shuttle

vivid junco
dim arrow
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If u ask there is a good chance theyll pay fr fr

vivid junco
dim arrow
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Si si

raw monolith
vivid junco
raw monolith
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noo

vivid junco
# raw monolith noo

i might just email and see what happens but lol i don't wanna be on bad terms with the dean before i even enroll 😭

molten knot
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Hello everyone! So at the moment, Williams College is my first choice, but I'm concerned about the academic rigor, especially since I'm going to do pre-med. Would you say that Williams College prepares extremely well for grad school and you still have time to relax outside of class?

vivid junco
molten knot
vivid junco
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I’m also a class of ‘27 admit but that is just what I heard, can’t say from experience

molten knot
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Gotcha

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I mean, I heard that those in pre-med at Williams felt that medical school was easier for them because of the academic rigor they faced at Williams.

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But I still would like to have a social life outside of academics, lol.

vivid junco
molten knot
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So at the moment, my top two are Williams and Amherst, but if I get into Brown as well as their PLME, then it'll be a competition between Williams and Brown.

vivid junco
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Oh I’m sorry I misread your question

molten knot
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Oh lol

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No worries!

vivid junco
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Yeah Williams is academically rigorous but you’re gonna find that’s the case for all top LACs/t20/t30s

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I think you will have plenty of time to socialize

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I think most of the time you hear about kids being under time crunch from the workload because they want to do so many other things (clubs, socialize, work, other hobbies, etc)

molten knot
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Yeah, but from what I've heard, it's one of the most, if not the most academically rigorous out of all the LACs. I'm fine with that, but I would definitely like to have time to do the things I enjoy.

molten knot
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Anyways, I'm like 95% sure I'm going to Williams. I'm just waiting for Ivy Day.

vivid junco
molten knot
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Samee, I couldn't get any clinical experience during high school because of COVID-19. Also, I come from a small town with very little diversity and opportunities.

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I seriously doubt that I got into PLME.

molten knot
vivid junco
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Yeah I mean the acceptance rate is like 2.8% or something for PLME so most people won’t get in lol

molten knot
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^^

vivid junco
molten knot
vivid junco
#

Wow

molten knot
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But yeah, in my opinion, Johns Hopkins is overrated 😛

vivid junco
#

I’ve been rejected from Stanford, mit, northeastern, Pomona and Harvey mudd lol

molten knot
#

Did not apply to any of those, lol

dim arrow
molten knot
#

I've heard similar things!

dim arrow
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A bunch of people i know are getting into stanford and harvard med from williams this year, either that or theyre taking a gap year and working at harvard med school lol

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its weird idk why this happens 😭

molten knot
#

Damn, that's insane. I guess you could say that I'm worried about the academic rigor and the learning curve, lol

dim arrow
molten knot
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I never applied there, but I heard that Swarthmore is slightly easier than Williams

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But not so much

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Someone said they're pretty much the same in terms of academics, though I might be wrong.

dim arrow
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Trust me yall will be fine if you choose to come here, its a lot but its an environment thats made to try and help u succeed, also like if u got in the learning curve will be manageable

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I think the biggest learning curve was time management

molten knot
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Gotcha

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I think that will be my biggest issue

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I'm lowkey slacking this semester due to senioritis, lol

dim arrow
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Also i was choosing between amherst and williams as well congrats lol!!

molten knot
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Thank you!

dim arrow
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Amherst flop tho 🙄🫶

molten knot
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Lmaoo, I'm visiting both schools in April, so we'll see!

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I most likely will go with Williams tho 👀

dim arrow
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Amherst campus is more traditional but williams campus is a lit more like…. Unique

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It has its ups and downs 😵‍💫

vivid junco
molten knot
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^^

dim arrow
#

si si we have a store here

molten knot
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I need a hoodie, lol

vivid junco
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I was considering the cow spotted one and the purple Williams one

molten knot
#

Wait does someone have a link

dim arrow
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i myself dont have a hoodie, i needs to buy one

vivid junco
molten knot
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I was literally thinking about purchasing one last night

dim arrow
vivid junco
dim arrow
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they are exactly the same in my opinion

molten knot
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I'm thinking of majoring in Psychology or English with a concentration in Neuroscience. I intend on going to med school after college, so...

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I know Amherst has a Neuroscience program, but Williams seems like a better fit for pre-med in general

dim arrow
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I think youll be successful at either, i personally like that professors are more intense here tho but amhersts do what you wanna do mentality also helps when making ur schedule

molten knot
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True true, but personally, I would prefer to have the smaller classes, winter study, and closer relationships with the professors.

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And the tutorials seem really appealing!

vivid junco
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you also get to be an ephman

molten knot
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Lmao, true

crystal crater
crystal crater
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THANK UUU

vivid junco
crystal crater
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i needed the shop link ofc

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maybe 🤞🤞 gotta represent my cows

vivid junco
crystal crater
molten knot
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There are so many sweatshirt/hoodie options for men, but not for women ;-;

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I'm just gonna purchase a couple of men's sweatshirts/hoodies, lol

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Which one are you guys thinking of purchasing?

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Omg, there's stuffed animals

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I'm getting the cow

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No questions abt it

vivid junco
molten knot
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Nice nice

radiant warren
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hey! i’m a current junior. dm me if you have any questions or wanna talk about williams

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congrats on getting in! and if you didn’t, I wish you the best wherever you go! college is really what you make of it

vivid junco
#

it's a true statement but it doesn't make people feel better 😭

radiant warren
#

i would offer ben and jerry if I could

vivid junco
radiant warren
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i ed so I didn’t have a choice

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but really it’s the people, fin aid, and post-grad options

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I also attended WOW and that really helped inform my decision

vivid junco
radiant warren
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for special diets, less so but overall it’s not too bad

vivid junco
radiant warren
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it’s a hit or miss, sometimes it’s pretty decent

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they have sriracha so I sometimes just put a bunch on my food lol

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there’s also chopsticks and meng’s

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which both do delivery

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if time gets desperate

restive crypt
#

When do i need to accept waitlist by?

vivid junco
carmine anvil
#

All nighters are generally avoidable with better time management I feel like

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Cause workload can be like waves during semester, so if you find a way to lessen the workload during exam season it becomes a lot more managable

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Something I feel like that's good about intro premed courses is that it feels like Williams profs aren't intentionally trying to weed out people

carmine anvil
vivid junco
carmine anvil
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Not sure. I remember reading like about 3.5-3.6

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Premed in general is stressful worrying about grades though 😭

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My choice to try to be math major as premed is probably not the smartest choice...

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Some math courses do be pretty difficult

vivid junco
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of doing that *

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i like applied math but i would like to keep med school open as option, but not sure if that's wise or not

carmine anvil
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Hmm if you are confident about math it could be fun

vivid junco
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well, i don't have any olympiad background nor proof based experience

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am currently taking diffeq but thats about it lol so def not a math genius

carmine anvil
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That doesn't necessarily mean you aren't good at math

vivid junco
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do alot of the freshmen math majors have aime/usamo/etc experience and have already taken graduate level analysis courses

carmine anvil
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not really

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I feel like Williams math doesn't have that many competition math background people

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I know some people who started off in upper level math courses, but isn't the majority

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What math courses have you taken?

vivid junco
carmine anvil
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Yeah

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But competition math doesn't equate to strength of math department

vivid junco
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calc ab (got Bs in both semesters but 5 on exam (jhu cty 😭 )) calc bc (5) calc 3 (A+) but not very rigorous at all and currently diff eq (again not very rigorous)

carmine anvil
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okay you will be placed into linear algebra probably

vivid junco
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well i am worried that i forgot alot already

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esp alot of the calc 2 series stuff and already forgetting calc 3 stuff

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so im thinking i should just study up over summer break

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but idk if it would be wise to retake some of those just to get a better foundation

carmine anvil
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Hmm if you wanted to take calc 3 again then Math 150 is pretty superb and covers series and sequences at the end

vivid junco
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not sure though

carmine anvil
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If Colin Adams teaching math 150 again, I would choose it over math 151 with loepp (harder grader, both are fantastic teachers)

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I would just take Math 250 tbh, Williams is lenient with letting people skip up and not have to retake courses

vivid junco
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Well im more concerned with having a weak foundation

carmine anvil
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Lol I didn't take a math class this semester because of premed reqs and prof choice

vivid junco
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my math up to now has not been rigorous at all so if i do end up skipping i'll study a ton over summer

carmine anvil
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For what it's worth, my math IB score was so bad and they placed me into calc 3, when I should've retaken all of calc prob

vivid junco
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like a 3 on an AP exam?

carmine anvil
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Not sure how it translates into AP

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But think like someone with only AP AB calc with mediocre score getting placed into calc 3

vivid junco
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oh

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so how did you decide to major in math?

carmine anvil
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It is very interesting (but hard 😭)

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Take math 250 with me next semester!

vivid junco
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haha okay will do

carmine anvil
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Hoping it is loepp even though she is difficult grader

vivid junco
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you'll probably carry me

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jk

carmine anvil
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lmao I struggle in math

vivid junco
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i mean i got b's in both semesters of calc ab lmao

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somehow still got into williams

carmine anvil
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U know way more than I did lol don't worry

vivid junco
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have you viewed your admission file?

carmine anvil
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no

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Also just curious, what chem course have you taken?

vivid junco
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currently in ap chem

carmine anvil
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okay if you can place into chem 156 with a high ap chem score, I would suggest caution depending on prof

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For example, I've heard Lee Park was pretty difficult last semester for Chem 156

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On the other hand, I took chem 153 and was really pleased with my prof.
In general, if there is an easier version of the class with a good prof then I don't see a reason to needlessly take a harder version of the class. Of course, there are times where harder class can also be the better choice.

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Also something interesting is that Williams has orgo for second semester chem instead of gen chem 2

vivid junco
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the thing is

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whenever people say something is rigorous idk how rigorous it actually is

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cause everyone said on the forums that ap chem is super hard and ive breezed through it so /shrug

restive crypt
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ap chem is the devils class

vivid junco
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well okay

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my class only is graded on tests

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and we only do ap style q's

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so idk if that makes it easier

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also we get a slight curve

dim arrow
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Thats pretty standard, the fact that ur class is only graded on tests already makes is much harder then majority of highschools lol

vivid junco
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everyone on reddit says its hard asf so

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but when I look at amc / aime problems I have no idea lmao

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so

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it’s hard for me to pick a school cause I don’t know what I want and I’m interested in too many fields

dim arrow
vivid junco
dim arrow
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liberal arts education would mean u wanna take a bunch of stuff in different subjects

vivid junco
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Man I’m so bipolar

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yesterday night I was like hard commited to Williams and this morning I wasn’t so sure

vivid junco
little ether
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Damn that’s tough. Atleast u rlly cant go wrong

tiny spade
# carmine anvil okay you will be placed into linear algebra probably

sorry just reading this convo LOL! potential stats major here— I was reading the major requirements and for math it needs a math 150 calc 3 + linalg but I’ve already taken calc 3 as dual. would I retake it again (which I am totally ok with) or it sounds like as you’re saying they might just let skip it entirely and go direct to 250?

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sorry that sounds a lil messy

carmine anvil
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I recommended STAT 201 next semester cause Prof. Plantinga will be teaching it

dim arrow
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whichever you choose will be good fr

vivid junco
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How difficult is it to double major in applied math and cs at Williams?

restive crypt
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Most students do it i think

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Some people even triple major

carmine anvil
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If you're premed, it would be difficult to fit in both majors on top of premed reqs

crystal crater
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sorry random question but is taking the AP tests worth it for williams?

vivid junco
crystal crater
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but it won’t count as course credits right

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it’ll just put me in higher classes?

vivid junco
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only for a few courses

vivid junco
# crystal crater but it won’t count as course credits right
crystal crater
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perfect thank u !

vivid junco
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np

vivid junco
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How’s the depth of the machine learning/ai courses at Williams? Hard for me to gauge simply from the course offerings

tiny spade
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is it easy to double major+pre med? I’m looking to be a stats major and potentially doubling in econ and LOL my parents want me to be premed and I might as well as it’s just a couple extra chem courses

tiny spade
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Hahah no way what are you looking to do

vivid junco
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applied math + Econ/cs/stat + premed

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Not entirely sure yet but gonna figure it out

tiny spade
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no way haha

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for the schools that didn thave a stats major i was applied math

vivid junco
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Williams has applied math pathway

tiny spade
#

those four majors are literally my choices

molten knot
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Nice to meet you 🙂

tiny spade
tiny spade
carmine anvil
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You might (probably?) have to fifth course to double major on top of premed reqs

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That being said, econ is nice because it is div 2 and from what I've heard, it isn't a hard major

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I know someone premed who is taking econ as a fifth course for GPA boost

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Btw if you are gonna major in econ, make sure you take the standard econ first semester class unless you place out of it of course

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Because econ has a lot of required courses for major, you need to start early. You could start 2nd semester with econ 110, but worse prof and gets stressful with planning with study abroad.

molten knot
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Quick question

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What are you currently majoring in?

carmine anvil
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Uhh tentatively math as premed?

molten knot
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I'm thinking of majoring in Psych with a concentration in Neuroscience because I'm interested in both fields, and I think it'll also help fulfill the pre-med requirements

molten knot
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How are the math courses at Williams?

carmine anvil
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I've only taken one course, but from my experience and from what I have seen very good teachers and department.

molten knot
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That's good. I'm currently taking AP Calculus AB and I'm wondering if I should try and get a good score so that I can opt out of the intro courses

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But on the other hand, I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't opt out because it might serve me better if I take an intro course at Williams

carmine anvil
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Lol I think even if you don't do the best in AB they still place you in multivariable but not sure abt this

molten knot
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I see, I'll prob have to do more research tho

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Thank you!

carmine anvil
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I think that multi is a good intro class to start with though

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A lot of first years take it, and if it is Colin Adams teaching it first semester then he is very excellent teacher (I took with him).

molten knot
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Oo, I'll look for courses with him then

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Thank you!

carmine anvil
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Lol besides multi first semester he teaches tiling or knot theory.

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His expertise is knot theory mainly.

molten knot
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Gotcha gotcha

carmine anvil
#

Also the way calc 3 is taught, it's not like you need a strong foundation of calc 1 or 2 because their focus is different.

molten knot
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I see

carmine anvil
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Extending calculus to another variable. Like for example finding the bounds for a triple integral, but not focusing on integrating complex integrals.

vivid junco
#

oh

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so like normal calc 3 stuff

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so its not gona prepare me for mit integration bee sadkek

carmine anvil
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lmao

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You should take the Putnam

vivid junco
#

LMAO I’m no where near knowledgeable for that

dim arrow
dim arrow
carmine anvil
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😎

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If you take CS as premed first year you are gonna have 3 labs a week lol

vivid junco
#

Do you have to score high or smth lol

dim arrow
#

Also i saw a previous thing about this but i do know a few math olympiad people at williams, super smart guy and hes going to cmu grad for computer science fr fr

vivid junco
#

Dang

dim arrow
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i think its just that most of the olympiad people dont talk it about it

vivid junco
#

Humble fr

carmine anvil
dim arrow
#

theres a bug culture here about being super quiet abiut the stuff u do 😭

dim arrow
#

I think the olympiad math stuff is starting back up next year tho! One of my friends wants to start it back up or start a diff one

dim arrow
#

i have to talk to him to confirm tho 🙏

carmine anvil
#

I think putnam studying was the only Olympiad related thing before

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It's a small school and some people just know a lot of other people

dim arrow
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Its not a good thing

vivid junco
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lol

carmine anvil
#

Are you CS major?

dim arrow
#

im anthro and geos but i do cs stuff on the side

vivid junco
#

Have you two met irl

dim arrow
#

nope

carmine anvil
#

Prob not

vivid junco
#

Ah

dim arrow
#

I dont hang with the williams freshman plebs

vivid junco
#

A2c meet up 😭

dim arrow
#

…. cursedmoon

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Rhe most cursed meetup

carmine anvil
#

would be so cringe 😭 saying we met from a2c

dim arrow
#

Downbad behavior

vivid junco
#

“Hey guys I met my girlfriend on a2c”

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Me and my wife of 25 years met on a2c

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HAHA

dim arrow
#

imagine meeting ur wife from a college decision mega thread

carmine anvil
#

Someone at Williams figured out who I am on discord...

vivid junco
#

Imagine

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LMAO

dim arrow
#

😭

vivid junco
#

Well my irl name is Ben so…

dim arrow
vivid junco
#

Looks like I’m getting doxxed

carmine anvil
#

Based on your edit

dim arrow
#

LMFAO STOP I SERIOUSLY MISCLICKED

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My cancelled era

carmine anvil
dim arrow
vivid junco
#

what’s a scythner

dim arrow
#

Its weird, basically the scythe username was used on wizard101.com so i used scythner instead

dim arrow
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And then ive been using it since

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never, my wizarding days are long gone

carmine anvil
#

Ben do you play league of legends?

dim arrow
#

Cursed days

vivid junco
vivid junco
carmine anvil
#

Good no league

dim arrow
carmine anvil
vivid junco
#

I’m starting w101 club

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we making it through arc 4 it’s time

dim arrow
carmine anvil
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LOL

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TRUEE

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the Jesup smell

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I opened all the windows on the 2nd floor before and it kept smelling

dim arrow
#

they need to knock that ugly ass building down and do some urban renewal on it

carmine anvil
#

Naww

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Jesup is my safe spot

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The other buildings too new

dim arrow
carmine anvil
#

it gives me a sense of rundowness

dim arrow
#

why is it pink tho

carmine anvil
#

lmao true

dim arrow
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Like it stands out so much from the rest of the quad 😭

carmine anvil
# vivid junco Cringe

The gaming club is trying to expand, it just becomes difficult with OIT and installing different games on the PC

carmine anvil
dim arrow
#

Humanities quad is sexier def

vivid junco
#

I’d never join gaming club

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too much stigma

dim arrow
#

jfskdbjss

carmine anvil
#

Gaming club is pretty casual

dim arrow
#

The gis class kicked yall out

carmine anvil
#

what's gis

dim arrow
#

We make fun of yall a lot fr fr

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geospatial information systems

carmine anvil
#

lmao

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That's fair

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People play too much league what can I say

vivid junco
#

we should start a four square club

dim arrow
#

Im trying to support yall tho, i stand with the marginalized

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🫶

carmine anvil
#

I wish I could say the same

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Jk

vivid junco
#

@dim arrow how’d you choose W over UPenn

olive elk
carmine anvil
#

I've heard mixed things about them but Scynther probably knows more

olive elk
#

interesting

carmine anvil
#

I know more about the mock trial team

carmine anvil
# olive elk interesting

I've only heard people's first impressions of the debate team, which I don't think are probably that accurate.

olive elk
#

also- I have pretty much graduated and now I have 5 months of nothing lined up and I was wondering if I should just do calc 3 so I can skip it or would you recommend just doing it in college instead-

olive elk
carmine anvil
carmine anvil
olive elk
#

but math is probably going to be sneak in anyway

carmine anvil
#

Honestly, I would try to enjoy your time before college!

olive elk
#

fair enough 😭

carmine anvil
#

But if you are finding yourself bored, then studying for multi won't hurt either 🙂

dim arrow
vivid junco
#

like why

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just curious

dim arrow
dim arrow
# vivid junco just curious

It fit me more and also gave me more aid, i also think academically it was gonna prepare me better for a phd and has better phd placement overall fr fr. The academics are much more tailored to each student snd theres a bigger academic culture here, upenn was just way too preprofessional for me and the people i found at williams i just liked more

#

a lot of other stuff too but williams just seemed to have better professor student interactions and atleast for my department was a lot more rigorous which i preffered

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upenn is a great school no doubt about it but it was just too big for me and the people are like hopkins level competitive there which i wasnt too into

vivid junco
#

More or less competitive than hopkins ?

dim arrow
#

About the same just differently, people competing to get into mckinsey rather then jhu med school if that makes sense

vivid junco
#

Got it

#

what about the people not in pre med

dim arrow
#

jhu and upenn are super similar in my opinion, its just that everything at upenn is geared towards business and consulting while jhu everything is geared towards medical research no matter the department

vivid junco
#

Makes sense

dim arrow
#

theres more of a student body focus, williams has a lot more academic diversity which has its pros and cons

vivid junco
#

The problem for me is that I want to do something engineering/ai related w medicine and I’m just interested in too many fields and want to combine them

dim arrow
#

even the venture capital at jhu is medical oritented 😭

vivid junco
#

so idk if hopkins would be better for the former

vivid junco
#

omw*

#

autocorrect 😭

dim arrow
vivid junco
#

yeah the thing is idk yet lol

#

im super experienced in equity trading, but interested in engineering and ai solutions in healthcare so

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ahhh I spread myself too thin

#

I promise im not entirely a finance bro 😭😭😭

dim arrow
#

Hmmmm

vivid junco
#

idk what I want to do as a career path yet that’s why I’m not sure

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sure as hell not something like finance that’s not beneficial to society

dim arrow
#

this is definetly difficult, i think if you go jhu youll def be funneled in that direction real quick but it will be harder to get yourself out of it while in it while at williams you can definetly explore it but itl be more up to independent research grants and professor support that you get rather than the venture capital stuff that jhu does. Williams will give you more time to try out and stuff and more leeway to step into diff things but jhu will give u that research focus

vivid junco
#

Yeah my parents think Williams a better fit

dim arrow
#

Engineering at hopkins is a commitment point blank, if you do it youll have to decide to major in it really quickly and youll only be able to take one class per semester outside of the major itself. Its a different experience but worthwhile if you feel like its something you wanna do

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Williams has a materials science pathway but its defiently not as confined fr fr

#

but also not as structured lol

vivid junco
#

well they said that applied math is a p light weight major and easy to double major at hopkins

#

but Williams to me gives me more of the home vibes so

dim arrow
#

oooo if ur doing ams then its easier to double major, if u were doing chem be that would be difficult lmfao

dim arrow
olive elk
#

Oh oops

vivid junco
#

Is the food better now that covid restrictions are getting a bit lessened

molten knot
dim arrow
#

its difficult def, its one if the harder majors at willy

molten knot
#

... maybe I'll stick with Psych?

#

We'll see, lol

olive elk
#

I can not stand chem at this point in my life

dim arrow
dim arrow
vivid junco
#

Chems fun

dim arrow
dim arrow
molten knot
#

Lolll, everyone loves chem until orgo

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Orgo's another language entirely

olive elk
molten knot
#

Lmaoo

dim arrow
vivid junco
#

Chem feels so intuitive and logical to me

dim arrow
#

I liked a lot of the physical chem stuff more then orgo but i self taught that to myself, i cant say too much bout the class itself

olive elk
#

Idk it feels so disconnected to me, like a million half true theories with weird exceptions and so much useless memorisation

#

Physical is better for sure, inorganic sucks though

molten knot
#

Really off topic, but do you know how easily Williams provides disability accommodations?

#

As for the sciences, I love anything chem, but hate physics

#

With a passion

#

For some reason, physics doesn't click in my head

vivid junco
olive elk
molten knot
#

Yeah I saw that too, I'll prob ask someone at the Previews as well

vivid junco
#

if you feel comfortable saying I realized I shouldn’t have asked 😭

molten knot
#

Lmaooo, you're good

#

I just don't want to be doxxed by random people💀

vivid junco
#

oh

#

okay

#

i mean you guys can probably find my LinkedIn

dim arrow
#

The accomodations office is super lenient and a lot of the students atleast have absolute support when it comes to anxiety, extra time on tests, taking less classes per semester etc etc. i cant say too much for the physical disability stuff however

dim arrow
vivid junco
#

lol

#

probably doxxed myself just by having my first name lmao

molten knot
#

Gotcha, I do have a physical disability, but I'm not in a wheelchair or anything. Thanks for letting me know though! The extra time accommodation is def going to come in handy

dim arrow
molten knot
#

Stopp, that's so bad 💀

vivid junco
#

What’s efc?

#

Effective family contribution? College ?

molten knot
#

Expected family contribution

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I think

dim arrow
#

Not my proudest moment peeposadge

vivid junco
#

weirdChamp

#

😭

#

alr well now that I’m committed (at least until tmr morning) I can buy merch !

molten knot
#

Haha, I need to buy merch too

#

I'm def buying the stuffed cow

vivid junco
#

im too bipolar on this decision

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falling under peer pressure to chase the t10 prestige 😭

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and the 5 year bs + ms in AMS

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and hopkins as a medical institution

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The ams masters is useless from what ive been told, engineering masters 🙄

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NVM ok im going to williams !

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LMAO

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Trust me when i say this, there are no cows at jhu

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nah im like 85%

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sure

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im going to williams

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my parents are telling me to go to williams

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go to amherst

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my dad wasn't sure until his doctor friend he looks up to said that williams is a top 1% school lol

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then he was like yep def williams

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LMAO

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i applied to williams as part of a last resort after stanford rea reject

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lol

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We have a dinosaur skeleton thats slay

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stanford enrolls the highest number of kids from alaska out of any t20/tlac

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and so it hought i was *for sure gonna get in

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come dec 16 2022

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dear ben we are very sorry to inform you

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so glad i wasnt ever a stanford simp haha (i wanted yale so bad)

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startup simp peeposadge

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peeposadge simp for northeast uni

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the #1 us news ranking school

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northeastern :prayge

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southwestern is on the up

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williams pr needs to put out new youtube videos for me to binge watch

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need some inspirational videos 🙏

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^^

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definitely did not watch the cornell 150 video like 7 times last semester

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and the into the columbia blue

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williams has a weird policy that they dont like to boast about themselves or publish any accomplishments. Like williams was the only top producing fullbright school that didnt make a post about it on their social media channels

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well

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better to work in the dark than

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do nothing

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lol

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and be boastful lol

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Trust me, they work in the dark dark. peeposadge

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like i watched all those top school promo youtube videos

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nostalgic already peeposadge

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i told andrew to make more videos just for you

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LMAOO

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ima need to find my way into an andrew oh video

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dumb mf works at the library front desk and i harass him everytime i see him

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sadge

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the library staff got mad at me cause i was standing there for thirty minutes roasting the shit out of him for being from LA

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have you seen the

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lol

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unfortunately, i think oxford is prettier fr fr

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its like the williams equivalent of the UK, amherst is cambridge

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LMAO