#Harvard. The reasons that I have for wishing to go to Harvard are several. I fe (2022-2023)

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kind elk
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you should be excited instead

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28 minutes

bronze spire
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AHH

merry meadow
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crap caught in 4k

turbid cypress
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HARVARD 15TH SO TRUE

merry meadow
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🤩

turbid cypress
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mit stanford and berk are not valid

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thats just forbes being tech elitist

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WHICH MEANS PRINCETON AT NUMBER ONE ONCE AGAIN

vague ice
kind elk
bronze spire
vague ice
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Still sad though

bronze spire
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If u say no i will end you

kind elk
bronze spire
kind elk
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I would love it if you prove me wrong though

bronze spire
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I prolly wont

kind elk
merry meadow
kind elk
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Are you implying that Stan > Penn?!

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I’m reporting you to AOs and penn discord server mods rn

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gg, you’re done

bronze spire
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Like i can change major and still be in a very strong program

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Upenn is same but kinda harder

kind elk
wild shore
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^ it's okay if not because it's called stanmid for a reason

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i actually agree w u on this one

bronze spire
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Wharton it is 🄳

kind elk
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Have you seen this?

kind elk
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"If you are currently enrolled full-time at an accredited college or university you may apply to spend one or two semesters studying at Harvard College. This program is not for High School Graduates who wish to study at Harvard for a Gap Year."

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They give no financial aid or housing either LOL rip

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next pendant
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U have to be an undergrad already to apply

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Bc you need the approval of dean

bronze spire
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Just for the Harvard experience

bronze spire
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Makes sense

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But idk why harvard would need a cash grab program

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I feel like 50 billion should be enough lmao

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Money is money lol

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You can use your reputation to make money on it

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Hence those paid EdX courses from HMS, Stanford, MIT

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No one’s gonna do Ducktown Community College EdX

kind elk
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you’d have to wait till you’re in uni

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but idt it’s worth it cause no aid or housing and you only get to go for a semester

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money grab program lol

mossy flume
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Also you have to be enrolled full time to be applying

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Two of the letters must come from faculty at your university

mossy flume
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thats so smelly

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its so over

next pendant
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Harvard isn’t the end of the world

mossy flume
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have fun at harvard then deadcat

median jolt
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Yalls mascot is a fucking dead dude

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median jolt
wild shore
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ong just wait for the summer

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The orange lanyards ugly

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The summer school high schoolers are SO obnoxious

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# mossy flume have fun at harvard then <:deadcat:831862907914551356>

Luck mentioned this earlier but it’s really important to move on. The more time you spend digging a deeper hole, the harder it is to get out. There’s no point in comparing yourself to others or wishing you were them; life is still going to keep moving—with or without you. We get you’re frustrated, and that’s normal, but don’t take it out on others. USC is stingy with aid too, have you considered what would happen after a slim chance of a successful appeal?(Their website does say they rarely overturn decisions) You seem to be doomspiraling which can severely impair what you’re able to do right now. Had you applied to VUS, they’d tell you that you aren’t eligible which would throw you even deeper into the spiral. It’s okay to take a break and just get away from college related environments. The cycle is over, just take time to decompress after several months of applications.

bronze spire
wild shore
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and if it is someone’s ā€œfinal resultā€, they’re on track to peaking in college at the ripe age of 21 lmao

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which is honestly embarrassing

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Yeah some people do really peak in HS and then down hill in college

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Others in college and work some crusty 9-5 office job unfulfilled

kind elk
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Stanford was my dream school lmao

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Went for the first time in college last summer and decided that rejection was one of the best things that could’ve happened

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The campus is cute but I can’t bike

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The heat is awful

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actually some of campus is cute

bronze spire
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I really liked stanny they were my top choice

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The bubble is wayyy to bubbly

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I thought it would be closer to an actual city

wild shore
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stanmid

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t3ch bros

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Administration kinda sucks

bronze spire
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Yea all my homies hate stanford ā€¼ļøā€¼ļø

wild shore
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WHY IS T*CH BROS CENSORED

bronze spire
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Vex have u been to upeen

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Yeah tach bros suck

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my friends at Stanford now literally chronically network at every event

kind elk
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I could not deal w that

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bronze spire
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UPenn wasn’t my style 😭😭

bronze spire
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I got into wharton with like basically no research lol

kind elk
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my cousin goes to penn

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not wharton tho

bronze spire
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Do they like it

kind elk
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Yeah, he loves it

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Be sure u like a school before committing

kind elk
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he’s doing pr33m3d

bronze spire
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Yea im going to quakers day

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I know people who regret going to schools because they applied bc of the name

rare sparrow
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smh

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But they hate their fit

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Or well, lack of fit

bronze spire
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I mean so far i like what ive seen of penn

next pendant
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ur mental health is more important than a school’s ranking

bronze spire
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Only problem is i have no idea how the classes and stuff are

next pendant
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you find out the hard way at some point lol

bronze spire
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there’s a couple of people at upenn in the FLI server

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I’m sure they’d be willing to answer and provide a better take

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class experience isn’t the same for everyone

bronze spire
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Oh yeah im in there and they let me know im free to dm with questions

next pendant
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Yeah def ask stuff

bronze spire
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Only problem is i dont think any of them are wharton kids 😭

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I think i know a Wharton kid

bronze spire
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Like irl or on discord?

kind elk
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Join the Penn subreddit

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check pings

bronze spire
foggy schooner
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My roommate was the "average" guy from r\Chance me

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Just money grab program too

foggy schooner
wild shore
foggy schooner
thorn niche
wild shore
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the ā€œday in a life as a harvard studentā€ for summer school is crazy

wild shore
thorn niche
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LMAO NAH

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I looked her up

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Look at her insta bio šŸ’€

wild shore
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NAHHH

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she also posted her entire address i don’t think she ever took it down 😭😭

final turtle
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no way

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she can’t be real

bronze spire
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@kind elk

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Right here??

kind elk
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Oh

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Thanks

sonic oyster
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for flex purposes

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they think its a validating experience

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the summer school one people frequently do bc they can a) afford it and b) think they look better to harvard admisisons w it

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will note that some of the summer school sessions like for orgo do give u credit and premeds tend to do that

sonic oyster
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It's kind of sad that some of these top colleges are taking advantage of this, with so many of them tying their names to often worthless summer programs.

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Not commenting on the orgo one as I know nothing about it, but often when these Ivy league summer classes(for high schoolers) do give credit, it often isn't even real college credit.

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i mean can you blame them

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the summer school stuff for high schoolers i dont think so

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im not sure of the specifics but yeah

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most schools dont give "good" credit

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i know stanford olx? or whatever its called

sonic oyster
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Yeah, its often in the form of 'continuing studies credit'

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they dont even take their own credit LAWL

sonic oyster
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yup

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@sonic oyster did you send a message

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I got a notif

final turtle
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ok so in defense of these summer programs

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i did a columbia online course thing in a physics subject i was really interested in over the summer

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and i formed a connection afterwards with the my instructor and did an independent study course with him over the course of a year and got a great rec letter from him

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but thats a very specific case

sonic oyster
foggy schooner
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Most people get vague recommendations lol

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There’s not much a professor can say about a college student from a 6 week program

foggy schooner
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I would say the recs helped me a bit, but lack of SAT, and absolutely horrendous situation in my country definitely made my chances go to 0.

serene lion
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wild shore
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i think it's also valid to go if you're studying something super specific that you wouldn't be able to learn in depth in a lot of other places

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like one time i snuck out and met a kid studying classics at the harv summer choir performance and he said they were free to travel around boston whenever which sounds amazing (we were prisoners to next house šŸ’” )

foggy schooner
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And some other math course

kind elk
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Isn’t calc 2 just ap calc šŸ’€

bronze spire
kind elk
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Can’t imagine paying thousands of dollars for harvard summer school just to take calc bc

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It’s funny because my dad actually wanted me to apply for Harvard summer school during spring of my junior year because he thought it would increase my chances of getting in

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I told him it’s a scam program and he didn’t believe me šŸ’€

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Thankfully my sister finally convinced him that it’s useless for admissions

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He also wanted to donate $5 to Harvard because he said it’s going to look good for me lmao

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My dad is definitely an interesting character

serene lion
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random as hell but i'm pretty sure it has a decent impact

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my sister is '14 and she has like 4 friends whose siblings got in after they graduated

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and then the same applies for a bunch of other privates

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i think it's because they can still create "allegiance" without having to disclose anything

serene lion
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mhm

kind elk
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mine is a sophomore rn, she didn’t graduate

serene lion
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i think it's still counted if they're in school 🤷

kind elk
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Oh, that’s cool

serene lion
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tbh - i think it's just used as a tipping factor

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like to just distinguish already qualified applicants

bronze spire
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Luck did u join the penn zoom meeting thingy

kind elk
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No

bronze spire
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It would have convinced you to go penn

kind elk
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No, it wouldn’t

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I hate penn

serene lion
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LMFAO

bronze spire
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Yea the video was sick

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Ur just delusional

serene lion
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Come on bro

kind elk
kind elk
serene lion
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No not at all

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but it's definitely interesting

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my friend at Stanford sent me a poll in their uhhh i forgot what it's called

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but it's like the college reddit ripoff thingy

kind elk
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side chat

serene lion
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117/374 accepted siblings? kind of crazy honestly

kind elk
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do you want to weigh in on this @winter smelt

runic sleet
serene lion
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for sure

foggy schooner
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I took it online for like 1/14 of the price

winter smelt
serene lion
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the siblings help out with apps too

indigo oxide
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to take orgo over the summer (through hss) and have it count towards harvard undergrad

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Do you go to Harvard? @indigo oxide

indigo oxide
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ignore my nickname lol

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Bruh wait did you take gen chem

indigo oxide
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in high school?

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i took ap chem

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or at hss? i haven’t ever taken hss courses

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@next pendant

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@indigo oxide did you get a 5

indigo oxide
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@indigo oxide I think you can

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But like there’s no point to rushing through college lol

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Just take it while you’re there

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No reason to pay extra

indigo oxide
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are you premed?

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i’ve sometimes received the advice to take orgo over the summer though (unsure why)

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Yes

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Summer orgo has lab

timid whale
fathom blaze
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My sis got waitlisted at Harvard, so not sure what makes sibling legacy hit or not

kind elk
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I honestly think it’s more of an icing on the cake type of thing

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My sister told me a lot of her friends’ siblings got rejected or waitlisted as well

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but then again your sister was admitted at Yale happy2help so she probably was qualified enough to be admitted at Harvard as well

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I’ve no idea lol šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

foggy schooner
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If they would care about every legacy the class would have had like 50% of them.

kind elk
foggy schooner
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Legacy is bs

kind elk
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But I think you’re right for general legacy admits

foggy schooner
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Only helps if you donate

foggy schooner
kind elk
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Sure

sonic oyster
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Does anyone have advice on how to write a LOCI?

serene lion
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@sonic oyster

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helped me to write my deferral LOCI

sonic oyster
# serene lion <@716756006184550410>

Thank you. If I stupidly submitted an update a day before decisions were released, I can’t mention those same achievements in my LOCI, correct? Will they even look at or consider that information?

serene lion
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You should include that information again in the LOCI - it doesn't need to be too long unless that's what it was

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Unlikely that they read it on the first time you sent it

kind elk
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^ given the low wl->accept rate, I’d still just put it again to make sure they saw it lol

bronze spire
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@kind elk 🤭🤭

final turtle
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penn supremacy

bronze spire
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Tell em brick šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļø

kind elk
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Fake

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I can confirm

foggy schooner
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Bruh

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Fake news

bronze spire
foggy schooner
pearl briar
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extremely slim

bronze spire
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Basically nonexistent

neon sail
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any idea how bad grades have to be to get rescinded šŸ˜­šŸ™šŸ»

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Unlezs your failing

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Multiple classes

modern halo
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out of curiosity, how important was the optional essay? essential?

modern halo
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okay - thank you :)

kind elk
winter smelt
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it might be fine but I wouldn't risk it

vague ice
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Does anyone know how many are on the waitlist

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Or what the average number is

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@ me so I see it

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Wait I seen ppl say like Harvard ssp or summer program is not worth it

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Would y’all recommend it or no

kind elk
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Not worth it imo, just a money grab

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They don’t release that info but some people on reddit have speculated that they waitlist ~1500 people or so @vague ice

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We do know the # of students admitted from the waitlist for the past 4 years tho

2024: 34
2025: 0
2026: 36
2027: ?

foggy schooner
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I would say it doesn’t help more than any other ā€œmoney grab programā€. As @kind elk mentioned.

kind elk
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Yeah, it’s a good experience but it doesn’t help much much/at all with admissions

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Yeah i want to do it bc of the networking, resources and espeitnece

shrewd token
foggy schooner
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I don’t remember though

foggy schooner
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It was a horrendous experience

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If you are int avoid it!

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Or you will spend months calling and talking to NPCs

wheat wraith
foggy schooner
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I mean some program like RSI will give a big +

wheat wraith
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My friend and I got an IMO silver but still got rejected so it is interesting that other stuffs are valued way more hmm

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I just feel bad for him he got rejected from everywhere he applied to in US

foggy schooner
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I have a few people I know with stellar applications. However, this year 0 people got in from my country.

foggy schooner
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Guess

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You have 3 tries

wheat wraith
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Europe?

foggy schooner
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This was a hint up there

foggy schooner
wheat wraith
foggy schooner
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IK Hah

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I mean

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Partly from Europe

wheat wraith
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Turkey

foggy schooner
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No

wheat wraith
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so it is a small country?

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hmm

foggy schooner
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No

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The other way around

wheat wraith
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russia then

foggy schooner
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Ahahha

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Correct

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Well

wheat wraith
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dayumn

foggy schooner
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I refuse believing in political stuff

wheat wraith
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we are neighbors bhaha

foggy schooner
wheat wraith
foggy schooner
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No way

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That is so cool

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I rly want to go there one day

wheat wraith
foggy schooner
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To see this guy

wheat wraith
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just dont visit here during winter

wheat wraith
foggy schooner
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What?

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You don’t know this cat?

wheat wraith
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did u get into any US uni btw?

wheat wraith
foggy schooner
wheat wraith
foggy schooner
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Committed to UCLA

wheat wraith
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ooh nice

foggy schooner
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No way

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This is like

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The Mongolian cat

wheat wraith
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never heard of him

foggy schooner
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Manul

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This is like the first thing anyone would imagine if you say ā€œMongoliaā€.

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At least all my friends will

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Whatever. Ha.

wheat wraith
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dayumn

wheat wraith
foggy schooner
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):

wheat wraith
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I guess I learned a new thing about my country from a student from a different country than mine

foggy schooner
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Like you have a crazy fish

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Called Taimen

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Idk if you have heard about it

wheat wraith
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dayumn

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nope

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first time hearing it

foggy schooner
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Ahahah

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Why 😫

wheat wraith
winter smelt
coarse panther
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yo, do you guys know if harvard sends T-shirts? I was able to find places to put T-shirt sizes for other schools but I dont recall for Harvard

kind elk
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join the Harvard 2027 server if you were admitted

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I can DM you the link

coarse panther
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ok pls

coarse panther
crimson briar
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harvard 27s dm me <3 i want more friends

elder comet
kind elk
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I gotchu

kind elk
crimson briar
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dw i'm leaning towards harvard šŸ’…šŸ’“

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if anybody wants to be added to the instagram gc

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lmk

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there's also one for yale harvard cross admits

elder comet
crimson briar
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oh it's bc the admit weeks overlap 😭

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so we were discussing how to get from one to the other

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together

elder comet
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ohh that makes sense then

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could you add me to it?

crimson briar
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yea sure

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dm ur ig

kindred mortar
crimson briar
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kind elk
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Yep!

upbeat sandal
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All RD admits, please PM me and I can share a Google Sheet to add your info and connect with fellow admits!

next pendant
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wish someone told me

high steeple
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Hey I was put onto the Harvard waitlist and I was wondering if anyone had any advice for writing a LOCI? I'm not sure where to start...
Sorry if I'm in the wrong channel, I just joined the a2c discord

stuck pumice
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For those who got into Harvard, has anyone gotten an email from an admission officer? I received an email from an admission officer who had read my application congratulating me on my acceptance and to reach out if I have questions

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I was wondering whether I need to reply back to this email or whether it's automated- sent to every admit

kind elk
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also @stuck pumice

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make up your mind

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šŸ™„

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pick Harvard

stuck pumice
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It's titled this right: "Congratulations on your admission to Harvard College!"

kind elk
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Lemme check

stuck pumice
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I will decide after visting CPW and Visitas 😭 it's hard

kind elk
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No, mine says: Congratulations from your Harvard Admissions Officer!

stuck pumice
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Oh, so it's personal?

kind elk
stuck pumice
# kind elk No, mine says: Congratulations from your Harvard Admissions Officer!

Is the content the same?

Congratulations on your admission to Harvard College! As one of the admissions officers who read your application, I particularly enjoyed learning about how you supported your family and community in various ways! Our admissions committee thinks you would be a terrific addition to the Harvard community, and we hope you will join us this fall.

In the next month, you will be able to connect with other admitted students and participate in programming to learn more about life at Harvard. There will be plenty of engaging content on the admitted students’ website to help you envision life as a Harvard student! We also encourage you to continue reading student stories as our current undergraduates share details about their Harvard experiences and alumni profiles as alumni share their various pathways after graduation.

We hope you can join us on campus for our admitted student weekend, Visitas, April 23-24. If your schedule doesn't allow you to attend, we will have great live and recorded content available on Crimson Connect beginning in mid-April to help you learn about Harvard resources and support and answer any questions you have.

Do not hesitate to reach out if you have any questions. If you wish to speak to me, I would be happy to set up a phone or Zoom call with you over the next few weeks.

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Now reading the email gain, it sounds like it's automated

kind elk
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ya, I have the same thing

stuck pumice
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Ah ok, you didn't respond right?

kind elk
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Nope

stuck pumice
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Cool Cool, ty

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Are u going to visitas?

kind elk
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Probably

kind elk
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hope you end up making the right decision /s smug

stuck pumice
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ty!

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bro 😭

stuck pumice
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I did CS and math

kind elk
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Engineering

stuck pumice
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interesting

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did you apply to stanny or mit?

kind elk
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No, but I should have

stuck pumice
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was harvard your first choice then?

kind elk
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It was MIT all throughout HS, but then I did REA to Harvard

stuck pumice
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šŸ‘

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complete opposite for me

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It was harvard all throughout HS, but then I decided to do MIT EA after a sumemr program experience

kind elk
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mostec changes people

stuck pumice
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damn

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you in the server too?

kind elk
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Yes

stuck pumice
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wait

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did you do mostec?

kind elk
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No

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I’m just in the server still

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idk why

stuck pumice
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did u apply?

kind elk
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I did but I was rejected

stuck pumice
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😢

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doesn't matter really tho

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u still at harvard

kind elk
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Yeah lol

next pendant
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@kind elk @stuck pumice when I applied i got a personal one

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I think it depends on the ao and your app

kind elk
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Yeah, I know some people get handwritten notes by their AO

stuck pumice
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I don't think mine was a personal note, it doesn't sound like one

coarse panther
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mine had a sentence mentioning a specific involvement

median jolt
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shame if u got into yale u would have got a personal note

kind elk
coarse panther
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or do we only have access when we matriculate

kind elk
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I think that’s only possible once the year starts

trim meteor
coarse panther
kind elk
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hope you make the right choice and pick harvard /s

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yale is literally discount harvard

coarse panther
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would u rather H S or P lol

kind elk
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What’s your major

coarse panther
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applied math + statistics

kind elk
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I would take harvard or pton

coarse panther
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why not s

kind elk
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o I didn’t see Stanford

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Thought it said yale

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uhh, I think either of them are fine tbh

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so it’s gonna come down to personal preference

trim meteor
kind elk
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I’d still take harvard though perosnally

trim meteor
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i think they should take Y S P so i can take harvard spot🄰

kind elk
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😟

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I hope you don’t get off the waitlist just because you said that /s

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@coarse panther

coarse panther
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bruhh nice

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but stanford has good weather

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lol

kind elk
coarse panther
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do u guys know like

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if harvards housing is good

kind elk
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I hate Stanford weather

coarse panther
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really why

kind elk
kind elk
coarse panther
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are rats actually a problem

kind elk
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I like cold weather

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No

coarse panther
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i am from florida LOL

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so stanford is literally colder than here

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but yeah hoenstly i wouldnt mind trying out snow

kind elk
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You could ask about the rat thing in Harvard community hub

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But I don’t think rats are a problem

coarse panther
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ok cool

trim meteor
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stanford was my dream school that’s why i recommended

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the weather is so nice and bay area>

kind elk
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See, now I no longer trust you when you promote any other school really

serene lion
coarse panther
serene lion
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literally no reason besides feeling LOL

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what major are you again?

winter smelt
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also lmk if you have questions zoop

coarse panther
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btw do you guys know if princeton allows for concurrent masters/ getting masters during undergrad years

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i know stanford and harvard has that opportunity

winter smelt
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stanford's is a bit more flexible because you can take a 5th year (you cannot at harvard) but you will pay for that 5th year out of pocket

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at harvard you remain on undergrad aid for all 4 years even with the masters

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idk how it works at stanford since there I think they formally decouple the grad and undergrad degrees

sonic oyster
#

Will Harvard potentially start pulling from the waitlist before May 1st or do they wait until then to re-examine any applications?

bronze spire
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Prolly wait

kind elk
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^

bronze spire
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Ive heard of ppl getting off it in like late summer

pale walrus
#

@kind elk could you please dm me the harvard’27 server link and @crimson briar can i send you my ig on dm to join that group

kind elk
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press connect with your class and make a crimson connect account

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co2027 discord link is there

rare scroll
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I just got into the part of Gilmore girls where ||Paris didn’t get into Harvard||

rare scroll
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if that’s not enough of a deterrent then catstand

rare scroll
# bronze spire Die

Considering the fact that on April third you made a comment alluding to the fact ||that Rory gilmore goes to YALE and indeed not Harvard|| I can deduce that you already got to that part and thus are unnecessarily and misleadingly accusing me of spoiling something to you

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I rest my case

bronze spire
#

Every harvard admit is a mega nerd smh @kind elk

kind elk
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why do you still come to this thread

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noob

bronze spire
drifting burrow
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i got a few personalized lines in the congrats email but idk if thats standard

coarse panther
drifting burrow
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ok gotcha same

next current
kind elk
#

^ You can access it started May 5th I’m pretty sure

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They probably wouldn’t give access before commitment day

next current
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you need to commit to set up an email, so i dont think that would impact it

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but that also makes sense

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so idk

kind elk
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I’m pretty sure you can set up/claim an email prior to committing (or at least I was able to), you just can’t add that email to your gmail or communicate through it yet

coarse panther
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yeah i made mine without committing

next pendant
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everyone gets an email prior to committing

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it's just not functional

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it's just an identifier

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its also… uhh "permanent" 😭

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if you wind up enrolling at harvard at some point for something, that email is the one you have to use

kind elk
winter smelt
#

I think this is the 4th largest single donation in harvard history? (1-3 is $500m from zuck for kempner, $400m for the naming rights to SEAS, $350m for the naming rights to HSPH)

bronze spire
#

Im donating penn a cool billion just give me 20 years

median jolt
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in exchange for absolutely no naming rights

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charles b johnson '54 for the new colleges

kind elk
#

Pretty sure Ken Griffin has a 15-16 year old in HS lol

bronze spire
kind elk
#

they definitely will

violet hollow
wild shore
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wait is there a harvard mit cross admit group

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i’ll make one if not bc we’ll end up in the same city anyways 😸

crimson briar
shrewd token
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thats crazy

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let me just buy the uni atp

blazing trellis
flint stream
#

Hartford college

kind elk
#

Howard, Harvey Mudd, and Hartford are all harvard impostors

sonic oyster
#

Is there a deadline for submitting the LOCI?

bronze spire
knotty bramble
#

do you know when the waitlist movement generally is?

kind elk
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No, but I’d assume it’s sometime after May 1st (commitment day)

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They need to see how many people accepted their admission offer before taking people off the waitlist

upbeat sandal
#

My general understanding was that it's sometime around June...

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But worth Googling or asking the admissions office @knotty bramble if you'd like

sonic oyster
#

Does anyone know who I should address my Harvard LOCI to?

kind elk
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Harvard Admissions Committee or To whom it may concern

thorn niche
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depends on how big the drop is, but they don't usually rescind unless it's a massive drop

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and even then, they might review it and decide not to rescind anyway

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I had a 44 pred and got a 41 and they didn't say anything

thorn niche
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Ohh then as long as it’s a relatively good score it should be fine

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Like maybe 36+

bronze spire
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No school wants to rescind tbh

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It just makes them look stupid

upbeat sandal
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Unusual assertion

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They'll do it if the student has an unjustified dip in performance, or, like the recent example, a gaggle of admitted students send inappropriate memes to a group chat

bronze spire
pale walrus
shrewd token
#

šŸ’€

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i would pay money to see u get rescind after getting a 41 šŸ˜‚

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jk im not that mean but dont count on it

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@thorn niche @pale walrus what class did yall take

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i mean course/subject

thorn niche
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Math AA HL, Eng Lit HL, Spanish Lit HL, CS HL, Econ and Phy SL

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hbu?

shrewd token
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Sl math aa physics and French b

next pendant
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Are you an undergrad?

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You have a master’s plus graduate role

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Don’t do that lol

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How do u expect people to answer your questions w inappropriate context

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You’re an undergrad? or are you in hs

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where are u transferring from

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a cc or

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if I’m not mistaken, financial aid generally covers fall and spring stuff

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summer tends to be a lot harder

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I’m p sure Harvard doesn’t have an early start program

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Most top schools don’t

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you kind of enter together w your fellow transfers/first years

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You could do Harvard summer session but it’s not really a formal thing

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or well it’s not considered part of transfer enrollment

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You just take it and pay out of pocket

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Wait are you admitted as a transfer

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I’d honestly wait for that before figuring this out

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For?

next pendant
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I think it’s hard to speak bc Harvard’s transfer accepts very few transfers

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A refund of 3K in Boston will be very difficult to live on

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Wait question

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Why do you have to take classes during the summer exactly

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you have up to 600% usage

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how much are you at

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uhh

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More like how many times have you gotten it

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A fall spring academic year is 100 I think

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Ahh got it

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I’m just confused why you have to take classes

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Harvard summer courses I don’t think offer financial aid and it’s a couple thousand

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Enroll at the CC classes ?

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wait so what does early start at Harvard have to do w this

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ohh I see

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Yeah so you can only start at Harvard in the fall

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So your financial aid this summer won’t affect your Harvard stuff

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That’s why I asked the % usage stuff

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you can after you’re admitted

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Ohhh I see what you mean

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If you were at 400% usage or something

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To a point where by the end of your undergrad years you run out of Pell grant

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Wait I’m confused what you’d be asking

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Tbf AOs aren’t in charge of that

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It’s from the financial aid office

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But they can’t answer questions fully if you haven’t been admitted and offered an award letter

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They can only speculate and provide very vague answers in that case

winter smelt
next pendant
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not the undergrad one

winter smelt
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let me try to find a link

trim meteor
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hi! would it be a bad idea to mention a coffee chat i had with a current student in my loci? in replace of me visiting campus

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she’s very prominent in the student body

winter smelt
acoustic plaza
#

is harvard cs good ?

winter smelt
# acoustic plaza is harvard cs good ?

it's a smaller department compared to a lot of peer schools that have massive CS departments (mit, stanford, etc) but expanding pretty quickly. so there's less research breadth than elsewhere. job placement wise, it's as good as anywhere else

gaunt frost
#

harvard worst boston school 🄱

candid moss
upbeat sandal
#

Anyone know where I can find the Q-guide

kind elk
upbeat sandal
#

Is it just me that finds it strange that Harvard would endorse a guide allowing students to trash professors in reviews?

kind elk
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I think the Q-guide is very helpful and letting the students "speak their mind" is more beneficial than having them be nice and hiding what they really feel. Plus, it (hopefully) encourages the profs to actually be good.

I’m pretty sure the Q-guide is filtered, anyway, so it only shows a subset of all the student responses. Harvard FAS gets the full list of responses.

**Evaluation results are made available to the instructional staff shortly after the course evaluation close date. A subset of course evaluation results are made available to anyone with a valid HUID. These include:

Aggregated summary of all numeric results (distribution, average, and median)
Verbatim student responses to ā€œWhat would you like to tell future students about this course?ā€**

https://q.fas.harvard.edu

next pendant
upbeat sandal
#

Fair enough

winter smelt
winter smelt
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there are some pretty scathing reviews in there lmao

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a classic (physics 144 - symmetries and geometry in quantum mechanics)

next pendant
#

One of the stats class was literally

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Do not take this class, take x instead

winter smelt
#

111 has improved a lot recently

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I think 102 is still widely disliked

next pendant
#

102 @winter smelt i think

sonic oyster
#

I still haven’t submitted a LOCI šŸ’€

vague ice
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don't

sonic oyster
vague ice
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cuz i'm on the WL

sonic oyster
vague ice
kind elk
#

The chances of getting off are already really low so you don’t lose anything

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other than the time you spend writing a loci

sonic oyster
#

Has anyone got off the waitlist yet?

bronze spire
knotty bramble
#

Waitlist updates?

kind elk
#

Stanford 27 asking for Harvard waitlist updates

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Crazy

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Oh, and I read this online for all the people on the wl

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Admissions year typically concludes at the end of June they say

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So I’d assume there’s a chance of getting off the wl until then

upbeat sandal
#

Specific statistics for admits off the WL show roughly 12/yr

knotty bramble
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I meant has anyone been taken off yet?

kind elk
#

I highly doubt it

upbeat sandal
#

Don't believe they offer admission to any WL candidates until at least May 1 and it might extend through June.

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So unlikely anyone has been taken off yet.

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It's possible they don't accept anybody.

barren shell
#

just curious

upbeat sandal
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I suppose I can't recall the exact source. But it's true the number varies quite a bit. Something I can sight is Harvard's FAQ, which says that in some years they've taken 0 and in others up to 200.

kind elk
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Wait, I have the statistics 1 sec

upbeat sandal
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Obviously because Harvard almost always admits enough to ensure a full class.^^

kind elk
#

admitted from Harvard WL over the past few years. Data taken from official Harvard websites.

2024: 34
2025: 0
2026: 36
2027: ?

barren shell
#

not liking that pattern lol

kind elk
#

My calculations predict that the yield rate needs to be <83% for there to be any chance of people getting off the WL this year. Keep in mind that I am dumb and that my calculations are most likely wrong though.

barren shell
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ik you mean well but i couldn’t help but šŸ¤“šŸ¤“šŸ¤“ when you said ā€œmy calculations predict thatā€¦ā€

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old habits die hard

kind elk
kind elk
kind elk
blazing sentinel
#

ty

kind elk
#

Np

civic ermine
#

harvard even though you waitlisted me I still love you with all my heart

kind elk
#

So do the other 2k people on the WL

silk night
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has anyone gotten off the wl?

thorny quarry
#

is this a community college

kind elk
kind elk
silk night
#

do they send rejections from wl or do u just get nothing

vague ice
#

when do HYPSM waitlists come out?

dry scaffold
#

midvard

bronze spire
#

Facts

kind elk
kind elk
kind elk
knotty bramble
#

How many percent of applicants does Harvard WL

kind elk
#

They don’t release that information, nor do they release how many people get off the WL each year

kind elk
#

Idk how many were waitlisted in those years

stuck pumice
stuck pumice
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a lot of the mostec kids didn't commit

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when do they release it for 2027?

kind elk
kind elk
stuck pumice
kind elk
#

From what I’ve seen, Harvard’s ideal class size is 1600-1650

stuck pumice
kind elk
#

They over admit by like 300-400

stuck pumice
#

ah perhaps not then

kind elk
#

Their yield rate has been consistent the past 3 years (~81%)

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I don’t see why it would drastically change this year

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There’ll probably be like 50 or so admits off the wl

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otherwise 0

kind elk
#

but the numbers are still useful

stuck pumice
#

true true

barren shell
#

and they do not have an 85% yield, 80 at best

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so perhaps there will be wls to get in

kind elk
# barren shell and they do not have an 85% yield, 80 at best

Class of 2026 had 83% yield rate
Class of 2025 had 85% yield rate
Class of 2024 had 81% yield rate

Class of 2026 admits: 1984 (1647 accepted offer, admitted from WL: 36)
Class of 2025 admits: 1968 (1673 accepted offer, admitted from WL: 0)
Class of 2024 admits: 1980 (1603 accepted offer, admitted from WL: 34)

Class of 2027 admits: 1942 (? accepted offer, admitted from WL: ?)

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I think we’ll see some waitlist movement this year but probably nothing too crazy

barren shell
#

fs

kind elk
#

maybe just 30-50

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If they hit like 84-85% yield again this year, though, I don’t see a reason for them to resort to WL

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unless they’re missing a group of people they need

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Anyway, there’s no point speculating over this lol

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We’ll see what happens

pearl briar
# kind elk

class of ā€˜15 didn’t like harvard i guess

bronze spire
#

So students would be able to choose from like multiple hypsm

next pendant
#

They wiped out early admissions back then

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That spike is from them adding it back

bronze spire
next pendant
#

To other schools

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why stress out abt other apps when u already got Princeton

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ppl back then weren’t prestigious w***es like A2C is today

wild shore
wild shore
serene lion
#

midvard sounds like squidward >

civic ermine
#

Harvard if you accept me just remember I’ll scream in a Walmart for you šŸ™‚

kind elk
#

😟

high steeple
#

any news from the harvard waitlist?

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im waitinggg 😭

barren shell
#

check cc

modern prism
sonic oyster
#

Will I need to send my final grades for the waitlist. They’re going to be pretty bad(Cs and Bs compared to 4.0 previously), so they’d immediately knock me out of consideration.

kind elk
sonic oyster
kind elk
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Cs are murky territory

sonic oyster
# kind elk Cs are murky territory

Yeah, but I also took like 6 college classes this semester and have a 4.0 there, so I don't think it will be a big deal to have 2 HS Cs

kind elk
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Ok

bronze spire
#

Getting rescinded for academics is super super rare

serene lion
#

no source for this it’s just a thing that’s happened for decisions

sonic oyster
#

Does anyone know how many people Harvard waitlists each year?

sonic oyster
serene lion
#

but who knows - good luck

kind elk
#

except for a few years, they typically don’t release how many people get off the wl either

kind elk
sonic oyster
barren shell
#

i could be massively wrong

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becos they dont report it and i couldnt find anything when i searched it up

kind elk
#

Honestly, I’d assume it’s around what you said earlier (~2-3k)

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Unlike Stanford, Harvard loves to defer people

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Stanford has a smaller WL + they only defer people they’re actually considering. Both of these are somewhat indications that Stanford is actually considering admitting you.

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On the other hand, Harvard defers over 70% of applicants so I’d assume they also waitlist a lot of people, giving them a false sense of hope

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yale also follows a similar approach that Stan does

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this is just pure speculation and could be completely wrong though

barren shell
#

pton as well i think

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they wl few and accept quite a bit off their wls

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*based off of last yr's cds

kind elk
#

the problem with schools like harvard is that a lot of people who are admitted tend to accept the offer of admission simply because it’s Harvard at the end of the day

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so they almost never need to resort to their waitlist or feel the need to take more than 50 ppl from the wl

barren shell
#

^^ the only people who'd likely reject harvard's offer of admission are stem people (non-bio related majors) who have gotten admitted to a YPSM

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sad times

kind elk
barren shell
#

tbh if i was engineering or a non bio natural science (like physics) id choose princeton over harvard

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cause fusion center and ive heard pton engineering is far better than harvard engineering

shrewd token
#

Tbf if I got accepted from any HYPSM school I would do any

median jolt
#

harvard v princeton is even lower

#

probably because of the larger overlap in princeton and harvards strengths

sonic oyster
#

I'm surprised by that. I thought Princeton was much better for undergraduate education + was stronger in theoretical science + math.

winter smelt
#

undergrad education is debatable

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undergrad focus, princeton is better, sure

kind elk
fathom blaze
#

I heard Visitas this year was really... bad L O L I know folks who committed elsewhere bc of it

drifting burrow
#

idt it was bad lol

#

just kinda underwhelming compared to like cpw ig

fathom blaze
# bronze spire 2019???

lol yeah my sister applied to colleges this year so I was just here to see what was going on

barren shell
#

2019 is crazy

median jolt
median jolt
kind elk
#

I heard the 2nd day was boring because there were mostly only humanities classes that you could go to and watch the lecture

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and it was raining on the first day

median jolt
#

yale had plenty of open seminars and prefrosh only classes (both lecture / seminar style) it was pretty well done

kind elk
#

yeah, i didn’t go but if i remember the visitas schedule correctly basically every class on the 2nd day was a humanities class

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my friend said there was 1 cs class but it was in the sec which you need to take the shuttle to get to (or spend 15 mins walking from the yard)

neon sail
#

i had a lot of fun even tho it was raining

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the first day was great like all the events but it was annoying bc everything overlapped

sonic oyster
#

Does anyone know if Harvard will take anyone off the waitlist this year, or if it will be another 0 year?

modern prism
#

someone on CC said that they called and was told that they would accept a small number of people this year

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how small? We won’t know

sonic oyster
#

I called them and they said they will be admitting a ā€œsmall handfulā€ of students from the waitlist and they are still deliberating.

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My guess is around ~10-15

kind elk
#

why would you call them lmfao

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but yeah nobody knows

elder comet
#

her sibling already goes to harvard though

silk night
sonic oyster
sonic oyster
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Because I haven’t finished my loci and didn’t want to waste time finishing it if 0 people would get off the waitlist

kind elk
#

o, you haven’t submitted it yet? 😳

#

what major did you apply as?

sonic oyster
kind elk
#

ah ok

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Would you happen to have any legacy

sonic oyster
#

Nope, I’ve got no hooks(also Asian male)

kind elk
#

I see

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cause I think being a legacy helps if you’re waitlisted

sonic oyster
#

I also applied as a joke but now actually want to go there, so my application kind of sucked

kind elk
#

less risk associated with taking a legacy off the wl

sonic oyster
#

What risk would there be?

kind elk
#

Higher chance they’d attend if taken off the wl perhaps

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and it makes the parents happy so possibly more donos

sonic oyster
#

But if my loci says something like If admitted from the waitlist, I’d be exited to attendā€, wouldn’t they know I’d attend if admitted

kind elk
#

Yeah, but everyone says that

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so they need to be sure

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Otherwise they need to spend more time debating and take another student off the wl if someone declines the wl admit offer

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Idk how it works though

#

chances are super slim regardless, no point in speculating

sonic oyster
kind elk
#

Idk, but I’m sure everyone who sent a loci has something along the lines of what you said

sonic oyster
#

But, I don’t think Ibjave a chance regardless. My interviewer literally told me I’d be a better fit for MIT, and I could always cross enroll at Harvard. I guess he thought MIT had a 100% acceptance rate or something.

kind elk
#

otherwise they wouldn’t be sending a loci

sonic oyster
#

And when I asked him why he went to Harvard, he just said because his parents went there and he wanted to continue the ā€œtraditionā€.

kind elk
#

lol

sonic oyster
#

Both of his kids also went to Harvard lol

kind elk
#

He definitely continued the tradition

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and I’m sure his kids will as well

sonic oyster
#

Yeah, he asked me where my parents wen(both went to MIT), so he concluded that any other school would be a bad fit as a result. 😭

kind elk
#

šŸ˜”

sonic oyster
#

It’s even funnier because MIT wasn’t even in my top 3 choices(although I was rejected/waitlisted from all of them)

kind elk
#

It’s arguably the best for math and physics though, no?

sonic oyster
kind elk
#

Did you get waitlisted by Stan?

#

Heard their wl is somewhat better than Harvard

sonic oyster
#

Yeah, I got rejected by Caltech, but waitlisted at Princeton, Stanford, Harvard, and UChicago(rejected later)

kind elk
#

Ok

#

Did you submit a loci for Stan?

sonic oyster
#

Yeah, but I impulsively spammed them with 3 updates 2 days before the decisions were released. So, I blew my chances there.

kind elk
#

yikes

#

Eh you never know

#

Maybe they didn’t even see the updates

sonic oyster
#

I referenced them in my loci.

#

But, a research group at SLAC did send a letter to admissions on my behalf so maybe that will help.

kind elk
#

I think like 1/5 of Stanford wl gets admitted

#

so you have a decent shot there I’d suppose

#

plus they only waitlist like ~500 ppl I think

sonic oyster
#

Last year, I think they only accepted 8 people off the waitlist

kind elk
#

o

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prob just an outlier year

#

usually it’s around 100 lemme check

#

Hmm, you’re right

#

It was 259 admits one year but the rest are like 8-30

sonic oyster
#

Also, I’m already a bit younger(16), so all the updates I sent probably make me appear too ā€˜immature’.

kind elk
#

we’ll see what happens ig

#

Penn is good too

#

I know it wasn’t your top choice but it’s still Penn at the end of the day

winter smelt
winter smelt
vague ice
winter smelt
#

caltech, harvard, stanford, princeton, etc do just fine recruiting physics students lol

#

and grad placement is pretty comparable

sonic oyster
winter smelt
#

MIT pure science is just as good as anywhere else

trim meteor
vague ice
#

i mean if you don't believe me just look at putnam results in recent years ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

elder comet
median jolt
#

ur not wrong

#

but MIT autoadmits so many of the USAMO ppl

#

so im not sure if putnam results r the greatest metric for that reason

kind elk
#

^ exactly

#

like most oly kids get into mit and just end up going there cause it’s the best option or they did ea

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so it’s not mit that’s teaching students to produce the Putnam results but rather it’s just the quality of the ppl that they admit

dry scaffold
#

harvard lemme in

winter smelt
#

it's just numbers

#

MIT has more math majors than the other schools in question

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but e.g. not more physics majors

final turtle
#

Princeton clears at physics tbh

#

Harvard and MIT are kinda equal with MIT having a stronger experimental focus and Harvard having a stronger theoretical focus so I’ve heard

vague ice
#

any news re waitlist?

kind elk
sonic oyster
vague ice
#

ughh the anxiety

#

do they always call if they're going to make an offer?