Harvard. The reasons that I have for wishing to go to Harvard are several. I fe (2022-2023)

[vital hill]

ohhh

lmao

nah i dont think ill get one lmfao

harvard has a different caliber

[midnight girder]

bro i haven't been offered a SINGLE interview lmfao

let alone harvard

[vital hill]

F

tbh

all others

[midnight girder]

it's over for me lol

[vital hill]

except MIT

are availability based

so wouldn't count against u fr

[midnight girder]

i did not apply to mit 💅

[vital hill]

yale also this year has been availability

[vital hill]

yea then its aight

[midnight girder]

yeah im coping

[vital hill]

all otjhers are availability

non selective

[vital hill]

lol

is alright

[midnight girder]

fr

my mantra

it's alright

[vague ice]

Wait why would Harvard be selective

I got mine before they even started reading probably

December 22nd

[midnight girder]

it's selective for internationals

or so i've heard

[vital hill]

only for intls

[fast isle]

Is MIT not availability based...?

Oh wait you mean for into

Intl

[vital hill]

For Indians, no, it’s selective

[rich rivet]

Ayo what’s up w international interviews 😭

[thorn niche]

idk but I want one 😭

intl student + in the middle of nowhere w/no alumni = 0 chances of interview

[vital hill]

my friend from italy told me 3 of his friends got contacted for interviews today

maybe they're rolling out interviews until mid-end feb

[rich rivet]

Got it thanks :0)

[vague ice]

Ok makes sense

Thought it was domestic

[jaunty bronze]

Hope so ong

[rose scarab]

I still haven’t gotten my interview for Harvard

[earnest cloud]

bro TRANSPORT ME TO IVY DAY PLEASE

i just wanna be done with french exams 😭

[bronze spire]

Transport me to april 1st

I want my decisions already lmao

Actually why are YOU worried

Mf stanford admit

[earnest cloud]

💀 ion care about decisions

i just wanna be done

schoolwork

ivy day marks the point in time when everything will finish and we start prepping for ib exams which i could care no less about

[bronze spire]

Ohhh lmao

[bronze spire]

Wish i could say this 😥

[acoustic ledge]

wanting to be closer to Ivy day so I can find out

wanting to be further away from my A Levels

the duality of every uk student

[fringe badge]

lol

that is quite the dilemma

[acoustic ledge]

i'm trying to make time fly by 😭 just revising for my a levels so hopefully time both slows down and speeds up (read: continues to go at exactly the same pace)

[fringe badge]

have u had any interviews?

they usually occupy at least some of ur time/thoughts

[acoustic ledge]

yep! had harvard rea (deferred), p'ton, columbia, and MIT all recently

and then i just got my stanford interview request which i'll do sometime in the next 1-2 weeks

hbu?

still waiting on yale tho :0

[fringe badge]

yo insane!

i've had darmouth, penn, princeton (rejected), and stanford

[acoustic ledge]

ayyy sick

how did your stannie one go?

[fringe badge]

well so, the interviewer wasn't rlly good at structuring interview

like i've had interviewers

[acoustic ledge]

my friend ended up applying to dartmouth but i literally found out two weeks after the deadline it was needs-blind ;-; l me

[fringe badge]

where the questions they ask

rlly help me get everything across

and it was abt to end at like 20 min

but then i clutched with the questions i asked her

[acoustic ledge]

ayyy that was like my p'ton one kinda

[fringe badge]

i asked her in a way that i could elaboratre more on my ecs lol

[acoustic ledge]

that's smart as heck

[fringe badge]

ohhhh that must hurt lol

[acoustic ledge]

yeah haha but it's okay

i ended up applying to six schools

HYPSM and columbia

something- tells me it's gonna be an uphill struggle lmao

[fringe badge]

yeah but the interviewer wasn't rlly serious like. she turned off her camera, was on her phone, and was in a public space

and like was taking no notes

[acoustic ledge]

oh

aw man

[fringe badge]

so i hv no clue what she's going to write lol

[acoustic ledge]

at least it can't really be a negative thing since you sound like you performed pretty strongly

[fringe badge]

harvard interview is a good sign

like as an international

[acoustic ledge]

though in the uk it's a bit weird bc they interview a lot of peeps

yeah

[fringe badge]

if u don't get interview from harvard

u like prob wont get in

[acoustic ledge]

just gotta hope i get that sweet defer -> accept pipeline

ohhh okay

[fringe badge]

like they say they are availability based

but what i've heard from interviewers is that

for internationals

some schools are more selective

[acoustic ledge]

ohhh okay

[fringe badge]

and they can give based on availability

[acoustic ledge]

let's hope i can clutch a yale interview too then

[fringe badge]

but if they rlly want someone

[acoustic ledge]

i really wanna go to stanford lol

[fringe badge]

they'll get them interviewed usually

[acoustic ledge]

or- any of them atp

ah right

[fringe badge]

yeah same lol, i visited

[acoustic ledge]

:o i've heard the campus is super cool

[fringe badge]

rlly rlly cool

entrance is beautiful

and they hv tunnels to get from place to place

[acoustic ledge]

no way

dang now i wanna go even more

firstly, just gotta say that's incredible

you're gonna win a fields medal no matter what regardless of whether you end up holy moly

i've heard interviews are really random this year bc of capacity issues

like my alum is a canadian for some reason who lives in vancouver

[acoustic ledge]

idk if that bodes well under this?? because getting an interviewer from another country might indicate they like me a teensy teensy bit (gaslighting myself to believe that) or there's just so little capacity in the uk that they're straight-up recruiting everyone

oh shoot i think mine went alright so now just gotta hope - apparently they deferred almost all UK people bc this year not that many applied rea

[fringe badge]

yeah like if they get an interviewer from a diff country, that means they're interested

because that person isn't in ur region

and ur region prob didn't hv anyone available

like i got an interview from someone in US

(i live in Canada)

[acoustic ledge]

the other uk peeps ik who got a stanford interview had uk interviewers so maybe they're just reallyyy over capacity

[fringe badge]

though they do live across the border

[acoustic ledge]

oh fairs

[bitter token]

😭 me too and I didn't get one yet

[fringe badge]

tbh idt i had anything rlly special for stanford. i think to some degree there's are actually availability based

like my interviewer

when she emailed me

she had attached like 9 other kids lol

and asked everyone to book

[acoustic ledge]

oh lol

[fringe badge]

and i assume they're all from canada

she was from toronto region so a bit far from me

[bitter token]

im from Toronto region 💀

[fringe badge]

yeah lol

a few of my friends didn't get one from toronto yet

[bitter token]

Did you get a Harvard interview too?

[fringe badge]

the only thing i can think of that might work against u in some uni's is if u didn't show urself outside of academics. Like everything here is amazing, esp for a tech school like MIT. but maybe uni's wanted a more round picture? im not sure, just hypothetical

and there's still the chance of getting an interview

its not all over

[bitter token]

what about you @fringe badge ?

[fringe badge]

nope i haven't

only way u get into harvard as international (at least from all the canadians i've heard of) u need interview

so prob means rejection

idk when they stop giving interviews

[bitter token]

dang, I heard for international, they're pre-screened yea

[bitter token]

i think its first week of March

[fringe badge]

someone who got in from toronto last year to harvard got interview request eearly feb

[bitter token]

welp, theres still hope, if not Harvard doesn't exist

[fringe badge]

yeah, so idk. tbh at this point uni's are a roll of the die. like if u give the same application to 10 of the top uni's you'll prob get at least one that shows some sort of interest - gives interview etc.

even though ur good enough for all the schools

what i've been told by someone who got into MIT from canada is that they don't rlly care as much abt marks from internationals

because they know that the system is quite different country to country

so as long as u hv decent marks

like 93+ is a 4.0 or smth

[bitter token]

every school calculates international GPAs differently

[fringe badge]

u should be good

like canadians who apply

i've heard that they apply with canadian scale

so they say anything above 80

is like a 4 gpa or smth

[bitter token]

Really?

[fringe badge]

according to the ontario scale

point being that ur avg as international doesn't matter as much

[bitter token]

yea

[fringe badge]

yeah becuase level 4 in ontario is 80+

[bitter token]

true

[fringe badge]

im in a similar boat

in US its like that from what i've heard as well

kind of annoying

because like here at my cshool esp

teachers are known to give u bad marks in gr. 9 and 10

because they think "marks dont matter"

even in gr. 11

[bitter token]

are you guys taking the academic program or AP in Canada?

[fringe badge]

since canadian uni's almost only care abt gr. 12 marks

[fringe badge]

i'm taking smth called the enriched program

its not offered in many schools - not very commonly heard of

[bitter token]

ENG4U is my lowest mark 😭

got a tough teacher

[fringe badge]

one troll method for some uni's is taking writers craft (counts as english credit) in gr. 12

[bitter token]

i dont know if US colleges will accept that

[fringe badge]

do u hv any international olympiads?

hmm

that is true

but mit puts a lot of weight on olympiads for canadians

like every year

around 2-3 canadians get selected

and they usually hv IMO medals

[bitter token]

yea, you gotta do well on the waterloo contests

[fringe badge]

though they prob do take other kids occasionally

[fringe badge]

idk how much MIT cares abt waterloo contests, but olympiad's for sure

like u should aime to make USAMO at least

(as a canadian)

[bitter token]

if you perform good on them, Waterloo invites you to the IOI and IMO

[fringe badge]

they do like research though

i think one year they took a canadian with rlly good ecs, and school marks, no oly's, but top athelete in canada

[bitter token]

I think I saw them

[fringe badge]

you can write CCC (waterloo) - CCO - IOI

but IMO is through U of T contest COMC - CMO

[fast isle]

ok this is only somewhat on topic

but I got first in my country's national math olympiad summer of freshman year

its usually done summer of soph, I took it early

Do you think MIT weighs it?

(I am not INTL, I am US citizen and now do HS in the US)

[fringe badge]

you wrote the USAMO

[fast isle]

No

I used to live elsewhere

got 1st National math olympiad there

now Im back in US

[fringe badge]

also idt any of us are experts for admissions like we're all trying to get in ourselves. so alwasy take everything i say at least with a grain of salt

[fast isle]

yeah of course

[fringe badge]

because very high chances i could be wrong lol

but yes

national oly's are good for MIT

but if u got first

[fast isle]

I got only perfect score in the competition's history as well

its a small country tho

wont say which but yeah

[fringe badge]

did u make the country's IMO team?

[fast isle]

they dont even have bro

[fringe badge]

ohh

[fast isle]

didnt send

[fringe badge]

i see

[fast isle]

I feel like it kinda makes or breaks MIT for me

cus my ECs are kinda cringe otherwise

💀

[fringe badge]

def being the best in ur country helps

because they like taking ppl from diff parts of the wrold

and if u show ur the best in ur country, that rlly helps

[fast isle]

I hope so bro

[fringe badge]

i doubt it? don't know for sure though

[fast isle]

I dont know

I hope they dont think too much about how big the country I used to live in is

LMAO

if that country had population like

20 million

and I got only perfect score in national math oylmpiad history

i think very good shot id be in

but unfortunately I am not that good

[fringe badge]

i wonder how many canadians hv gotten yale interviews so far

Harvard ones a few got i think

oh wait acc oops

i just remembered they hv US citizenship

hmm

uh

most of the ppl i know or know about are just insane at math

and have made math olys

so im prob the wrong person to ask lol

yale idk anyone

harvard though i think u don't need to worry as much about oly's

[acoustic ledge]

for me i don't have much oly experience other than camp stuff for underrepresented students but i won an international fellowship

[fringe badge]

there was someone who got in without any international recognitiion

i think they did research

[acoustic ledge]

• some ai research and other random stuff

[fringe badge]

MIT only ppl i've ever heard of have almost always been to IMO and gotten a medal

(from canada)

MIT usually only takes the top 2-3 canadians

[acoustic ledge]

still applying atm but got a few interviews

hopefully i get into MIT but without imo as an int'l it's really tough

[fringe badge]

yeah

[acoustic ledge]

though i think they like that specific fellowship program so there's hope

and i mentioned promoting oly stuff in england as a pet project so idk if it'll resonate w them

[fringe badge]

@vague ice did u apply to waterloo?

lol

why is it that all the ontario ppl i meet who are applying to US

[acoustic ledge]

i'm in a weird position bc ik they've heard of it and like it but it's not imo-level either??

[fringe badge]

absolutely hate waterloo

[acoustic ledge]

so i just gotta hope my interviewer liked me too

and that they liked my essays

[fringe badge]

CS program?

yeah that was my motivation to apply^

[acoustic ledge]

same pahaha

[fringe badge]

getting the interview (which im assuming you got) is always a good first step 🙂

[acoustic ledge]

:> thanks

yeah it went really well!

had it a few weeks ago

[fringe badge]

nice!

[acoustic ledge]

https://news.mit.edu/2022/two-first-year-students-named-rise-global-winners-1026

that was the fellowship thingy

but it's a bit of a mad one bc i think 100 people won and only 2-5 got into mit

which idk if that's good or not bc i thought everyone was hella cracked

[fringe badge]

wow ur doing that?

[acoustic ledge]

but then again most didn't apply so maybe it's 2-5 out of like

10

[fringe badge]

🤯

[acoustic ledge]

yeah! it was/is really rewarding

big boy bucks

that's sick tho

[fringe badge]

canadian uni's just annoying though

like u gotta be close to 100% avg

which in some cases is unrealistic

[acoustic ledge]

here a-levels are hard 😭 if you get like 60% that's prolly an A* in further maths

[fringe badge]

did u apply to oxford?

[bitter token]

i did too 🙂

[acoustic ledge]

yep but got rejected :/ had a very bad day on the admissions entrance exam date

which sucks so hard but we move

[fringe badge]

MAT is a pain lol

its like

[acoustic ledge]

innit

[fringe badge]

what descartes used to be

or like

[acoustic ledge]

i got rejected pre-interview which hurts

[fringe badge]

Euclid with calculus

[acoustic ledge]

lollll

[fringe badge]

and only questoins 7 and later

[fringe badge]

nice CS program?

[acoustic ledge]

though i have slightly better hopes for the US i guess

[bitter token]

yep

[fringe badge]

oh cool

I also applied to SE

[acoustic ledge]

since ECs, essays, class rank etc

[fringe badge]

schools other than MIT, as a canadian u hv a shot at other ones without oly experience

[bitter token]

dang, thats even harder to get into. I know ppl with 98 an 99 percent averages that got rejected. Basically its where all the IOI or CCO ppl who can't afford the US.

[fringe badge]

yeah waterloo has some insane ppl

[bitter token]

I heard this one guy got into waterloo CS with a 94% average since they had an internship at Google

[fringe badge]

my school is kind of a feeder to waterloo

[bitter token]

same

[fringe badge]

like every year we hv at the very least like 5 ppl who get into cs at waterloo

4 years ago we had like 12

[fringe badge]

bruhhhhhh op

[bitter token]

wow! mine is sends like 4-5 per year

[fringe badge]

ur school seems like a competition school?

do u guys usually place high?

[bitter token]

in what?

[fringe badge]

waterloo competitions

[bitter token]

eh, sometimes

[fringe badge]

Waterloo is rlly obsessed with IB kids

and i've found that recently they care less abt contests

[bitter token]

yep, sadly mine only offers AP

does your school have an adjustment factor?

[fringe badge]

it did

like 11 i think

but idk if it still doesa

after covid

it'll be rlly concerning if we get the median one

because our cshool is an unnaturally hard program for enriched

like 90 in our enriched program is prob equiv to 100 in other schools

imo it makes sense

they don't rlly hv anything around it

[bitter token]

wow

[fringe badge]

since canada's not like us

eh

waterloo's obsessed with marks

like in ur app

1.) Marks
2.) ECs
3.) Contests

[bitter token]

most ppl get 1-2 on the AIF so they dont rlly care, out of 5

[fringe badge]

though it has been inflated recent years

i think u of t hates our school

because they know all our good kids usually ditch them and go to waterloo

like the 5 kids that got waterloo cs last year

all got rejected from u of t cs lol

[bitter token]

XD

[fringe badge]

and the 1-2 kids that got into u of t cs from our schoool

were not the best

they had quite significantly lower avg

so i guess u of t knows

like prob avg of 95

i accidentally ranked u of t 2nd on ouac

thats like autoreject lolololol

[bitter token]

U of T CS sucks though, you gotta go through an entire year more of stress and work to maintain your GPA so you can declare yourself a CS major.

[fringe badge]

yeah atmosphere there is rlly troll

why is it that

most of the good cs schools

hv trash portals

like waterloo's is trash

u of t

cmu

lol

[bitter token]

harvard has the best one imo

[fringe badge]

would you guys be willing to go to any ivy league uni over waterloo?

assuming u got fin aid

and costs were the same

[bitter token]

yes

is it random?

Princeton, Cornell, Harvard, and Columbia are great for CS

eh i would say its mid

hm, i applied for CS

[fringe badge]

for the additional ec description on waterloo aif did u guys put small descriptions of some of ur ecs

or just a small essay on one of them?

[fringe badge]

so you wouldn't go to yale, dartmouth, upenn for cs over waterloo?

[bitter token]

nope, prestige is not everything

that looks good

i got one from Stanford, but he had to cancel it and told me another alumnus will contact me.

[blazing trellis]

nah a riend of mine got in without interview last year

[blazing trellis]

intl

[blazing trellis]

wsdc 3rd best speaker, research paper on child trafficking, national level Bharatanatyam dancer ( she sent art portfolio)

[worldly hornet]

@fringe badge isn’t UW really depressing

[blazing trellis]

who needs Harvard when I got Quinnipiac simping for me

[vague ice]

Nah they in my dms like🙄🙄

[remote crane]

Received a mail to do an interview, i’m in Europe btw

so if people in Europe haven’t gotten interviews yet it might be soon

[vague ice]

Hey, I'm from Europe too! If it's okay, can u pls say which country

[remote crane]

France

[solemn obsidian]

The reasons that I have for wishing to go to Harvard are several. I feel that Harvard can give me a better background and a better liberal education than any other university.
I have always wanted to go there, as I have felt that it is not just another college, but is a university with something definite to offer. Then too, I would like to go to the same college as my father.
To be a "Harvard man" is an enviable distinction, and one that I sincerely hope I shall attain.

[runic sleet]

The reason that I have for wishing to go Harvard are several. First, my father went there. Second, my mother went there.

[vague ice]

EXCEPT mit?

MIT is not availability based?

Homie stop tryna get my hopes up

[solemn obsidian]

If I remember correctly, for internationals it's based on availability

[vague ice]

for internationals they are not?

[solemn obsidian]

wait no misread

[fast isle]

I think for intls quite a few are not availability?

[solemn obsidian]

sorruy

gfd

[vague ice]

wait so as an Indian - does that mean

can you give me some source

I don't believe ya fam

aint no way I got selectively chosen for one aight

[solemn obsidian]

It's just what I've read- let me try to find a source though

[vague ice]

admit

[vital hill]

MIT interviews for india are generally selective

don't raise ur hopes yet

do you have any intl oly medals/camp/team or crazy research?

if yes, then it's def selective interview

[vague ice]

I don't have any recognized olympiads but I got like state rank 1 in everything and int'l rank 40 (out of 40k) in this private companies olympiads

like my awards are not that good basically

[vital hill]

SOF?

[acoustic ledge]

that could be selective ngl

[vague ice]

Only for India or for other intls too?

my essays are quite fucking good though

[vital hill]

i know for india

no idea abt other intls

[vague ice]

not good in english, but I think in content - relative to all my other applications atleast

[solemn obsidian]

Oh, huh

[vague ice]

a solid 8/10

[vital hill]

could be selective then

[vague ice]

yes and Silver zones

[vital hill]

don't get your hopes up yet tho

[vague ice]

if only I gave actual olympiads istg

[vague ice]

they aint up anyways dw lol

[vital hill]

they usually don't count for much tbvh

[vague ice]

il

[vital hill]

but yeah the essays could be clutch

[vague ice]

*ik

better than submitting nothing though

[vital hill]

ye ye

[vague ice]

hence why I submitted em

[vague ice]

yeah I think

if you want I could dm them to you

cuz I might be being biased

I think they were an 8/10 in content, 7/10 in the english

See the thing is, the AO only knows as much about you as its on your application. And for me its not the quality or content but the amount of content.
I feel MIT was the one application where I could fit in every detail about me I would want an AO to know.

istg if only other universities had the exact same set of essay questions :/

some supplementals don't give you that opportunity

As an intl i'm anxious since i haven't gotten interviews yet (the ones that u don't have to register for). When usually unis stop sending interviews?

[vague ice]

my interviewer said he had my name since december 20, he just couldn't get to me for personal reasons and stuff

idk about RD though

he got my name almost right after I got deferred basically

[fast isle]

i think many unis have march 1 deadline

for interview reports

[vague ice]

Thats for the reports tho, not interviews itself

[fast isle]

yeah

but

[vague ice]

I think the final interviews gonna happen by the end of next week

[fast isle]

the interview must be done

before then

is my point

[vague ice]

yeah

[fast isle]

so no more than like

2 more weeks at best

[acoustic ledge]

then again yale does interviews in like the week/two before ivy day for borderlines

kinda mad but we roll

[solemn obsidian]

I won't be applying this year since I'm still a sophomore, so I just lurk here sometimes

Just wanted to wish you all good luck though, hope you get into your number one choice

[vague ice]

yeah but thats boderlines

rare

[vague ice]

thank you, all the best with school yourself!

[solemn obsidian]

Thanks <3

[fast isle]

Thank you

[thorn niche]

Received email for interview!

International student from South America

Damn he was an ex admission officer and works at the college 💀

No pressure

[bitter token]

Dang!

good job

[bitter token]

is there like a deadline to reply or last date to take an interview that he mentioned in the email?

[thorn niche]

He said we could do the interview February 20 or 22

But didn’t mention any other deadlines

[bronze spire]

Probably a selective interview then 😳

Thats a massive W

[thorn niche]

Lmao I hope so that’d be a W

[minor locust]

Is it concerning that I haven't gotten an interview yet

I live in the bay area too

And my friend received an interview

From my school

[rare scroll]

You should be devastated

Sobbing on the floor

[minor locust]

Alright 👍

[worldly hornet]

might as well withdraw

[undone scarab]

Is getting selected for U.S. Presidential Scholars Program worthy enough to submit a update in my portal?

[last bone]

Congratulations Mr. President, if you’ll be deferring admissions by four-eight years it should be known by the university

[undone scarab]

my bad i forgot the two

[last bone]

Probably

It’s a big deal imo

161 in country

[undone scarab]

or this is 5000 one

[last bone]

Oh

[undone scarab]

so I was nominated to apply

[last bone]

Idk

[undone scarab]

if i decide to put it, do i just say ""I was nominated as a candidate for the US Presidential Scholars Program" or do updates need to be more dense?

[minor locust]

will do, thanks

[vague ice]

never even looked at this before now lol

[earnest cloud]

yea they trolling

classic harvard move

[tropic light]

fuck harvard

(harvard let me in)

(pls)

[worldly hornet]

average harvard vague W

[blazing trellis]

Hello, I got offered a CIA advanced interrogation interview today, what does this tell about my admission chances

[humble stirrup]

it means they want the classified documents on your pc

[blazing trellis]

Ahh alright I thought this was almost like a likely

[last bone]

Normally you join the CIA after graduation from Harvard

Means you’re 4 years ahead

[blazing trellis]

wow harvard AOs are so nice, other AOs never responded to mails, when my counselor sent the Harvard AO the evaluation she had asked, she replied with a thank you mail

[fringe badge]

harvard ao emails r public !!!??

[blazing trellis]

watch me flip on this statement when i get rejected

[fringe badge]

lol

[blazing trellis]

nah nah, she emailed my counselor

my counselor replied

then she replied back

my counselor told me

[fringe badge]

wait thats so op

thats rlly good

looking good for u!

[blazing trellis]

nah nah they just wanted some additional comments

[fringe badge]

they'd only want if they were interested

trust, thats a good sign

[blazing trellis]

The only thing I was happy about it is that it means I am not already in the reject file

[fringe badge]

lol yeah

did u get interview?

[blazing trellis]

nope

[blazing trellis]

if they were interested they would have given interview

[fringe badge]

ok interesting

[blazing trellis]

smh

[fringe badge]

but i mean

like ik interview is big thing for internationals and harvard

but the fact that the ao is willing to email

thats prob equal to/bigger than interview

[blazing trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-eye-dont-give-me-hope-clint-barton-avengers-gif-14260447

[fringe badge]

lol!!!

we both know its a good sign

[blazing trellis]

Nah i gave up on decision astrology after Georgia tech deferral

[fringe badge]

yeah tbh

predicting is kinda useless

like just wait until decision day 😅

(im too obsessed to do that though...)

[blazing trellis]

same, i will be lying if i said, i have not considered forcing my friends at harvard to break into admissions office

[fringe badge]

lololol

my guidance counselor is such that

even if she got any message

she wouldn't tell me

or respond to it

lol

[blazing trellis]

yh bro I am lowkey scared about that, thats why every 3 days i keep pestering her if she recieved any mails

do you know my common app shows an optional report submiitted, though my guidance counsellor swears she didnt upload anything

[blazing trellis]

sio unless she was drunk, or someone hacked into her account , idk who did

[fringe badge]

ok bro like my school's guidance counselors refuse to help anyone. At the start of the year, they literally say, we won't change ur courses, drop your courses, or add any courses to ur schedule. Like what are you there for then...

[fringe badge]

nice (oh wait)

[blazing trellis]

so i made her submit optional report 2 correcting that there was no optional report 1 , pleae ignore, the latest grades are mid year grades

[fringe badge]

bruh

[humble stirrup]

largely untrue

it’s still alumni availability

[vital hill]

Nope for india it’s true

Only the ones who receive interviews get in

For domestics it’s completely availabilltybased

[humble stirrup]

i see

[blazing trellis]

do you know anyone other than the yale rea guy who got so far ?

[vital hill]

some dude said they got one on the Reddit thread

but the account was made the same day and has 1 karma lmao

Idk if I believe it

[blazing trellis]

yh okay so maybe they are just rolling out interviews later this year for india ?

plus AOs have changed this year for india apparently

so maybe new AO has diff interview policy ?

idk bro all of this is just copium ughh

[vital hill]

it is copium honestly

we coping a bit too hard

i'm just mentally preparing myself for seeing the "the Committee has reviewed applications and I am sorry to convey"

and i'm fine with it

just applied harv for the personal satisfaction

[knotty talon]

I got an interview and uh.

it doesnt

mean anything tho right? 😭

cuz my parents are excited but i dont wanna get my hopes up...

[pearl briar]

no it doesn’t

i’m afraid

[knotty talon]

ok

😭 good

[pearl briar]

are you domestic?

like live in the US and have US citizenship

[knotty talon]

ya

[pearl briar]

okay yeah it doesn’t mean anything ☹️👍

[knotty talon]

my parents said something that was like only 60% of applicants get an interview but. 💀 probs only them

celebrating this weird this

thign

thign

thign

ok well. IM CLEARLY NOT GETTING IN CUZ I CANT SPELL

💀

i got my interview late. like after mid reports were sent in so. 😭 idk might mean they might consider me now? but ppl are saying interviews dont matter so like...

🧍‍♀️ probs just a coincidence

no

its just coincidence

💀 thats odd..

[pearl briar]

well they matter for domestic people too

it’s just it’s purely availability based

like an alum randomly chose your name from the list of applicants to interview

[vital hill]

yeah for domestics the interview isn’t selective at all

it’s just availability based

so don’t get ur hopes up or anyth

[knotty talon]

ok ok good

i really dont wanna get my hopes up so im actually. happy about this 😭

[wheat wraith]

daymn

so that matters for intl?

I guess I am not going to Harvard😥

[knotty talon]

well i got my interview offer today! so looks like they can come out later too :)

you can still get yours! <3

[wheat wraith]

Thanks, I hope so.

I kinda screwed my English proficiency by scoring 15 on the toefl listening (the noise were too loud)

I got 26 on the previous exam and it ended being in review and got delayed

I had no choice but to send my score of 90

maybe that is why

[wheat wraith]

Presented a startup company project (as a leader and UI/UX designer) at some event, two times IMO medalist and a beat maker (I have a youtube channel and sent an additional art portfolio). Often participated in Physics and Competitive Programming olympiads and won national level awards (USACO gold, but it was 2 years ago... should have made it into Platinum and mentioned it). Didn't participate in any community service (my biggest insecurity).

Also Co-hosted a Valorant Tournament (mostly worked as their graphic designer)

[median condor]

cracked wtf

[fast isle]

Lol both of y'all have good ECs

it's just that if you're an international you're never not in danger of just getting fucked over

Not to say that you guys necessarily have already been fucked over

But if you're an intl you're just rarely ever safe regardless of your ECs

[wheat wraith]

wtf brooo

you are an auto-accept

at Caltech Mit or any other institute you name it lol

What records are you referring to btw

are those like Nobel-prize level things?

I am not really familiar with them

but your application looks frikin impressive

[vital hill]

IMO as in the official math olympiad?

[wheat wraith]

Yes, the IMO similar to the IPhO or IOI

[vital hill]

ahh that's insane

which country? (if you wanna say)

ah nice

[fast isle]

with 2 imo medal your chances are pretty good too lol

although again intls can get fucked basically no matter how good their app is at these places

[hollow pebble]

are harvard interviews based on availability?

[vague ice]

Yes

[hollow pebble]

okie thanks!

[gloomy token]

Is Harvard really the place for math? Seems like that's what you're planning to study.

[humble stirrup]

it allows you to jump to grad courses soph year

if you take math 55 freshman

[kind elk]

Yes

[bronze spire]

Harvard is the place for everything

[runic sleet]

Behind MIT and Princeton, yes.

[humble stirrup]

harvard has grade inflation

and their math is good

MIT and Princeton math are rigorous and stressful

[runic sleet]

So for future grad students… Harvard

[humble stirrup]

yes

[runic sleet]

Definitely won’t make you a better mathematician or anything…

[humble stirrup]

definitely… lol

i’m jk it’s probably all about as good

[runic sleet]

Grad schools don’t want good mathematicians, pfff

[humble stirrup]

they want mathematicians with high gpa

[runic sleet]

Yeah, MIT is more stacked though. Just look at Putnam results (if they matter).

[humble stirrup]

i kinda want to see if i can do a jd and a phd at the same time but the answer is probably no

[runic sleet]

I wanna do two doctorates

[humble stirrup]

double phd is possible

[runic sleet]

Yeah but awful

It’s a miserable life

[humble stirrup]

no fucking way

northwestern

has a Jd-phd program

🫡

[runic sleet]

👀

I’ve talked to you before, have I not?

[humble stirrup]

https://wwws.law.northwestern.edu/academics/degree-programs/jds/documents/jd-phd_brochure.pdf

[runic sleet]

You’re a physics person?

[humble stirrup]

you have

[runic sleet]

Doesn’t ring a bell

[humble stirrup]

if that rings a bell idk

uhhhh

[runic sleet]

Physics?

[humble stirrup]

astrophysics

[runic sleet]

Ah yeah, you.

[humble stirrup]

yeah me

[runic sleet]

You’ve taken a lot of DE math, no?

[humble stirrup]

i have

[runic sleet]

Nice, nice

Have you gotten any decision yet

[humble stirrup]

one

[runic sleet]

Was it good?

[earnest cloud]

math moment

[humble stirrup]

one acceptance

uofa astro

merit and honors

harvard deferred

gatech rejected

[runic sleet]

bravo

[runic sleet]

Harvard was such a waste of my REA slot…

[humble stirrup]

same

[runic sleet]

I should’ve EDed to Duke 🫠

[vague ice]

was that your top choice then

[wild shore]

right

hindsight is always 20/20

[humble stirrup]

i was going to commit decision day if i got into harvard rea

i’m kinda glad i got deferred

not entirely

[runic sleet]

should’ve been lol

[humble stirrup]

not really

it’s probably happened before

they’re still doing interviews too

[kind elk]

Yes

That seems be to the case for Harvard (?), not sure about the others.

[humble stirrup]

harvard still gives out interviews til literally a week before decision day though

so i wouldn’t be too too worried

[kind elk]

Perhaps MIT just attracts/gets the very high, stacked math Olympiad kids more than Harvard?

Math at both places is very very good

[humble stirrup]

mit acceptance is pretty much guaranteed for IMO/mathcamp kids

that’s why it attracts i think

[kind elk]

ye

I’m sure like imo ppl would pick mit over harvard which could explain why mit >= harvard for putnam

[runic sleet]

This is 100% true. They aren’t necessarily better mathematicians, but they are the best coming out of high school.

MIT clearly puts lots of emphasis on IMO recruitment and Putnam preparation.

[kind elk]

don’t want to share and no

[kind elk]

Mhm

Pretty sure Harvard has placed first in Putnam like 30 times as well lol

[bronze spire]

His ecs are too cracked 😳😳

[kind elk]

idt you can really go wrong with either school if admitted to both

[bronze spire]

Cant u cross register too

[runic sleet]

Maybe in the past, but nowadays, MIT has like 85 of the top 100.

[runic sleet]

This is true

[bronze spire]

Is cross registering available for every class or only a select few?

[runic sleet]

I would pick Harvard > MIT because I like liberal arts more and Math 55 👀

[sinful geyser]

i think so?

[bronze spire]

I feel like harvards better at a wider range of majors too

[sinful geyser]

i liked MITs vibe better lol

[kind elk]

Yeah, the past few years has just been MIT in first with Harvard in 2nd or in the top 5. I think it’s more the students rather than the school though.

the entire mit team is imo gold kids so even if they went to harvard they (probably) would have performed just as well

[bitter token]

can I get into MIT if I went to the IOI?

[fast isle]

yes

and you can also not get in

but it definitely helps your chances

[kind elk]

Perhaps? I’m not sure. I do know that you can still get in if you didn’t though

[kind elk]

Nah

[humble stirrup]

i think i have too strong of a liberal arts background to not flounder at mit taking all stem

[bronze spire]

Wha

You mean to flounder?

[humble stirrup]

what

yes

[bronze spire]

Oh okay lol

[humble stirrup]

i mean like i have math in good at math and some science like chem but my background is entirely liberal arts

i’ve never done anything engineering

[kind elk]

I should’ve applied to MIT as well RD lol

oh well

[runic sleet]

I honestly might switch from math to philosophy because I like the liberal arts too much

[kind elk]

couldn’t be me

[humble stirrup]

just dual enroll lol

[runic sleet]

“Well, I made this app you might’ve heard of. It’s called Discord. Have you heard of it?”

[kind elk]

ya but it’s just way easier if you just directly go to mit

[humble stirrup]

why would you want to go directly to mit

harvard grade inflation

mit stress

[kind elk]

heard harvard grade inflation isn’t all that

what it’s made out to be

[humble stirrup]

my mit interviewer and i bonded over the misery of doing work until 2am every night

[kind elk]

😟

[humble stirrup]

h said if i was into that i’d be perfect to mit

i said i am

[kind elk]

hmm, ig you’re right

[humble stirrup]

but it’s better with friends

and he was like

that’s the spirit

[kind elk]

idt I’m in a position to be complaining so I’ll just shutup lol

[bronze spire]

Ive heard that scales take people from 20s to 80s lol

[kind elk]

there’s no way

😟

[humble stirrup]

abnon said most people pass math 55 with an A

[kind elk]

okay but you need special administration permission to even take math 55

so the ppl in it are cracked asf

[humble stirrup]

do you

abnon made it seem like you could just opt in

but the cohort is small because it’s so much work

[kind elk]

Yes, I’m pretty sure you do

Let me check rq

[runic sleet]

You don’t I don’t think

But the professor may have a meeting with you and tell you to drop the class if he thinks you not competent enough

[kind elk]

Oh hmm yeah

Looks like anyone can take it mb

these are the hours for math 55 tho

[bronze spire]

How did somebody pass only spending 6-8 hours a week

Also 27-30 is crazy bc imagine the time spent for ur other classes too

Or wait is this for all classes

[kind elk]

Just math 55

[bronze spire]

Nah thats crazy

30 hours a week for ONE class

How many do u take a semester at harvard

[kind elk]

Most people take 4 classes per semester

some take 5

and if you’re a crackhead you can occasionally take 6+ with admin permission

[bronze spire]

Dude imagine spending 30 hours a week in math 55 then you have 3 more classs

Classes

Even if u spend like 10 a week on the other 3 thats 60 hours a week on classes

[kind elk]

[runic sleet]

full time and a half college student

[humble stirrup]

that’s not bad actually

i probably spent 10-12 hours a day on classes as is

every single day of the week except sunday

[runic sleet]

last semester i had homework once 🗿

[humble stirrup]

i’m in perpetual stress

ib diploma exams + physics with calc + discrete math + ap physics

mainly ib exams killing me rn

i grinded my math ia in like 12 hours

[quasi bobcat]

ppl getting second harvard interviews w/ aos scare me

[pearl briar]

i wonder what getting an interview or not means as a US citizen living abroad

[kind elk]

[winter smelt]

you can take grad courses frosh year if you want

[winter smelt]

no where is the place but it is a good one if you're looking for like no boundaries (and kinda elitist, but that's a lot of other places too)

[blazing trellis]

You can cross-register at MIT for the classes they are better at and take the classes Harvard is better at, so getting into either of them is a win win

[winter smelt]

making arbitrary distinctions at that point

imo at that stage you're better off considering the fact that harvard is very algebraic and MIT has better combinatorics

[bronze spire]

im sorry but this is copium to the max lol

harvard is undeniably need blind

they have a $50 billion endowment

probably the fact that its based on availability

or even if they did lie abt availability

according to a2cers

even if it wasnt based on availability, its 100% possible they havent even read ur application yet

yes, consensus that was come to by a2cers

nobody on here really knows what theyre talking about lol

they are

people get interviews up to a week before ivy day

[bitter token]

stop the cap. proof?

[blazing trellis]

this isn't true tho, my friend got in without one

[fringe badge]

international? --must've been like insanely op

like i guess there may be a few outlier cases, but the trend rlly is pointing towards needing an interview to get in as an international

[blazing trellis]

yh

[fringe badge]

until early march at least i believe

[blazing trellis]

yh , but even until very late

[fringe badge]

they do hv a lot of apps to get through

[fringe badge]

yes, perhaps

[blazing trellis]

nah my other friend that got in had interview like mid march iirc

[fringe badge]

i do believe u

like some ppl get yale interviews week before decisiosn

i mean at this point i try not to care too much abt these things. i'll get it if its meant to be lol

can't rlly do anything abt it

imma be fretting when i open decision whether i got interview or not

[acoustic ledge]

double phd seems extraneous

phd/md or phd/jd or phd/mba is cool tho imo

[vital hill]

mate honestly however good your ECs are, unless you won the goddamn nobel prize, its entirely possible harvard chooses not to give you an interview

because it's harvard for fucks sakes 💀

plus we're internationals

nothing is guaranteed

[blazing trellis]

even if you won the nobel tbh

[vital hill]

lmfao

malala moment

[blazing trellis]

didnt MIT reject a guy that built a nuclear reactor at home

[vital hill]

that dude doesnt even need MIT

[blazing trellis]

yh he just needs to sell invention to Iran

he will be a gazillionaire

[meager yew]

Do we know which top privates allegedly filter internationals for interviews and which ones don't

So that I can cross out some schools on my list early

[vital hill]

harvard and MIT as far as i know

but not for UK intls

for UK intls it's availability based

[keen goblet]

Hmm

I'd say uk and canada intls get availability based

[acoustic ledge]

yah just bc we have a crap ton of alums

[keen goblet]

Yea

Sad that we here in India don't have a lot of alums willing to do interviews

[rose scarab]

If I want to send awards and extracurricular updates to Harvard, do I choose miscellaneous or academic work?

I figure the latter is more intended for research papers, essays, and the like but I'm not sure

[humble stirrup]

uhhhhhhh update would be miscellaneous

miscellanous is what i put for my update (what they tell you to put for loci)

[rose scarab]

Oh alright, I'll go with that then

Thanks icy!

[humble stirrup]

np

[humble stirrup]

harvard likelies are rarer than winning IMO

[simple burrow]

i should unfollow this thread cause i just know my rejection letter is pre written

[humble stirrup]

that’s not true idt

1 in 7 of 3%

0.03 x 0.15

so 225 of 50,000

with most being athletes

[runic sleet]

that sounds absurdly high

[bronze spire]

Definitely lower lol

They accept abt 2k and give out like 200 likelies

Its more like a 1 in 10

And the only people who rlly get them are atheletes, cracked hooked kids, or kids who they think are sweeping hypsm

[humble stirrup]

i’m sweeping where is my likely

[knotty talon]

😭 im just honored i get to interview.. even tho im in the US

im not really a top student so even interviewing with harvard is like. really cool.

[humble stirrup]

felt the same way too :>

it’s really cool to interview with someone so cool!

[knotty talon]

my interview is tomorrow

kinda nervous

[blazing trellis]

normally

[rose scarab]

I haven’t gotten an interview from Harvard yet 💀

[fast isle]

Me neither

I rea'ed got deferred and no interview either round

[crystal patrol]

Which state are you from ? @fast isle

[humble stirrup]

damn

i got an interview rea

[crystal patrol]

Calypso what state are you from?

I’m from Texas and haven’t gotten an interview

[humble stirrup]

delaware

lol

[crystal patrol]

Oh bruh💀

A friend of mine got into Harvard but she’s from Texas and didn’t get an interview

[humble stirrup]

the guy who interviewed me wasn’t from my region either but grew up in my area

[humble stirrup]

you’ve got hope

i was defwred so

[crystal patrol]

Yeah same

Was hoping for an interview but idk if they have any officers in my region

I’m from deep South Texas so it makes sense

But at the same time idk

[rose scarab]

I’m in Iowa so lol

[fast isle]

Oklahoma

[crystal patrol]

I’ve heard of a ton of interviews taking place up Northeast

[humble stirrup]

yea

there’s like nobody in my region still unfortunately

it rlly sucks to have nobody in ur region i resonate

i’ve had 4 interviews so far

[crystal patrol]

Holy

[humble stirrup]

applied to 14 schools

[crystal patrol]

I applied to Stanford also but no interview from there either

Kinda bummed out but im just gonna wait

[fast isle]

I got stanford

[stuck pumice]

interviewers don't know what you wrote in your application essays right?

[humble stirrup]

they don’t

[bronze spire]

They only know ur highschool age gender and name

[stuck pumice]

Ok ty

[stuck pumice]

ty

[kind elk]

calypso left??

[vague ice]

ig so

[thorn niche]

The end of an era

[lofty patio]

hello harvard men

i too am a harvard man now

lets us all hope we get into harvard to become a harvardian

[kind elk]

hi

yes

[lofty patio]

bange

r

[winter smelt]

Yeah because 10% of the 15% are athletes

[kind elk]

I was a recruited athlete and didn’t get one

[bronze spire]

Wait fr?

For volleyball?

[rose scarab]

Oh no :(

[vague ice]

mine bonded over running 10km daily

[queen zinc]

i am aboxford man

[kind elk]

Nah, I was jk

I’m not good enough

[bronze spire]

Oh lmao

[knotty talon]

:,D my interviewer

kept asking about what research ive done

i feel like.

i failed my interview

[wild shore]

that’s rlly impressive

i recently started track and my joints are . not built for this

[wild shore]

awe i’m sure you were fine

that’s really weird if the interviewer to ask about what “research you’ve done” bc ???

[knotty talon]

😭 no like... i was like.. um.

why u asking that 3 times

💀

[wild shore]

THATS SO WEIRD

tbh research can be really overrated

[knotty talon]

i said ive watched lectures from harvard about music is medicine...

i did a research paper last year

in my english class on it

and then she asked again

[wild shore]

r u a stem kid ?

[knotty talon]

and i was like... i mean i read books on it..

NO

IM NOT

UHFILUR

[wild shore]

LMAO

[knotty talon]

😭

Like ig i am kinda??? but im more music.

than. stem

like

WDYM RESERACH

She asked a 4th time and i was like :,D um... well thats kinda it... i didnt do much reserach on it...

cuz like

😭 i figured out what i watned to do late???